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Literally the new Bleach. A lack of direction has been there

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Literally the new Bleach. A lack of direction has been there for a while but the current arc is hammering home what a limited story teller Hori is.
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>>159750188

as long as I have froppy I'll never be stroppy.
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>>159750188
>A lack of direction
>First chapter literally tells you what the story is about and its end goal
>Something Bleach didn't have at all
Okay
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>>159750337
Hori is buying time to think of an actual plot for the villians by slowing the pace down to a halt. Wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't reach 250 chapters since its so bland
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>Bleach is boring
>slow pacing
>3 months worth of chapter taken by side characters
>You will never see your fav chara again for about one year some didn't appear at all in the end
>the only redeeming factor it has is muh power up but it was butchered on the final arc
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>>159750432
>Hori is buying time to think of an actual plot for the villians by slowing the pace down to a halt.
Are you fucking stupid or just Spee D. Reader shitpisting?
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>>159750188
Actually it's the new Naruto

It started off strong, but it'll start going downhill around chapter 500+

Bleach went to shit pretty quickly (after the rescue Rukia arc)
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>>159750188
Has a more summer thread ever been posted?
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>>159750536
People still parading this meme I see?
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>>159750188
Popular shounen manga are controlled entirely by their editors. The mangaka doesn't have the luxury of creative control or agency, particularly because they're on such a strict drawing schedule they literally don't have time to plan scenario or narrative and still get the drawing gruntwork done. They're just slave illustrators to their publisher and editorial goons, who decide the story well ahead of time based on strict, universally applicable narrative templates and the outcome of popularity polls/sales numbers.

If you wonder why all shounen seems the same after a while, this is why. They all literally follow the same general story outline, because that's what the editors are precedented with as "this sells to our target audience." The directionless stalling periods in the serialization's life are just a period where the sales are exceptional and the publication wants to coast on that success without risking any demographic shifts by advancing narrative or characters meaningfully. The worst thing they could do is tell their story and then run out of story to tell while the series is still making good money, so they'll stall until popularity begins to wane, then push forward major progress to reacquire interest. Standard commercialized writing.

Please have some self-awareness when you consume a literal children's comic book story produced to sell volumes of the children's magazine it's published in.
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>>159750536
>It started off strong, but it'll start going downhill around chapter 500+
It is already starting
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>>159750641
Nope
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>>159750613
"I watched Bakuman like two times so I know the manga industry": the post
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>>159750658
Current Arc is the worst anon
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>>159750606
Which part is the meme?

That BnH is the new Naruto? Or that Bleach is complete shit?
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>>159750613
how about one piece and soul eater?
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>>159750680
Its not. In fact there really hasnt been an arc I would call bad.
>>159750689
What do you think?
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>>159750188
It went to hit after allmight survived. You're fault for still reading.
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>>159750709
>one piece
Oda made enough material for it to last 5 years but it became so popular that he expanded it
>soul eater
You're joking right? SE had no fucling direction throughout its run and Ohkubo was just making shit up as he went along
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>>159750709
Soul Eater 's fate is pretty comical. Editors didn't think the series had the right stuff to be popular the way they wanted it to be, but recognized it had public attention after the anime. They pushed the mangaka to do Not! because they thought they could capitalize on 'the moe trend' (a great buzzword spewed by every out-of-touch marketing professional in the industry that doesn't understand their target audience at all) instead. The split focus and editor meddling mangled the main series and very quickly killed interest off while Not! missed the mark completely. The two wallowed in mediocrity and declining popularity together until they decided to 'end' (read: cancel) the main series just to get it out of the way.

Soul Eater is a case study in how not to capitalize on the sudden popularity of a work.
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>>159750870
>They pushed the mangaka to do Not! because they thought they could capitalize on 'the moe trend' (a great buzzword spewed by every out-of-touch marketing professional in the industry that doesn't understand their target audience at all)
Did you just pulled this shit out your ass?
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>>159750781
>the mangaka doesn't have the luxury of creative control or agency
>they're just slave illustrators to their publisher
>who decide the story well ahead of time
The story is shit because they don't have time, yes, but also because the mangaka is usually a bad storyteller. Not because the editor/publisher decides the story for him.
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>>159750536
naruto started going downhill after roughly 100 chapters, exactly like bnha
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>>159751082
>naruto started going downhill after roughly 100 chapters
>Naruto went down hill during its best arc
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>>159750188
I get really bad vibes from this manga, it's kind of funny how the writer can't make an iconic design for deku, like naruto, luffy, or even ichigos original design.

This shit reminds of me of all the shitty new designs ichigo kept getting, then getting thrown in the trash.
It may seem minuscule to plebeians but being so flip floppy and unable to create a single solid iconic design is extremely amateurish of the mangaka, it's really poorly written and conflicts feels so forced and just because, I always life when people try to pretend it's a big three contender.
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>>159751282
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>>159750536
It avoided Narutos critical mistakes
>Massive power inflation
>Mah darkness
>Not developing side characters
>Ship wars
Sure, the actual plot is shit and the world less interesting than narutos but it's alright.
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>>159751151
/co/ GET OUT
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>>159751353
all this shit came after a while in naruto, at the same point in the story side characters had more focus, power levels were reasonable and the pairings were pretty clear cut
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>>159751282
I feel like he wasted all his creative energy on All Might and Bakugou.
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>>159751527
>all this shit came after a while in naruto
Nope there were present even in Part I, after the Chunnin Exam there was way less focus on side characters and this is where power scaling went out the window (how is it that jounin class ninja got defeated by genin class ninja without even using their cursed form?)
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>>159750188
I feel like the manga peaked at Todoroki vs Midoriya and it hasn't been as good since.

One for All vs All for One was good, but the rest has been a borefest so far.
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>>159750523
>Spee D. Reader shitpisting
The fucking irony.
Sit down you retard.
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>>159751721
What does a typo have to do with ypu speedreading?
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>>159751669
I think this is worse than Marineford Babbies
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>>159751282
It's even worse when the actual protagonists looks like Generic 2010s Shonen MC: short, skinny, big brown brush hair, sometimes timid and clumsy.
The Ballroom kid is like that, the Love Zombie kid too, it's all the same shit. Not that shonen was ever notorious for the diversity in MCs, but at least the others had either interesting powers or good designs, Deku has nothing.
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>>159751828
What do you mean?
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>>159750726
>What do you think?
I think you're an idiotic fanboy and that your opinion is unwanted.
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>>159751282
> Hating on mom's design
It's like you never had a mom.
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>>159751912
Superman's mom made his iconic costume.
Being a mom is no excuse for having shittaste.
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>>159751595
>>159751282
Did you guys just completely ignore the fact that it's supposed to be a shitty copy of All Might's costume? In universe it's not done by a designer, of course it's shitty. It's already immensely improved by the second time it appears.
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The spinoff vigalantes is 10x more entertaining and better written than the main shit

>>159751976
He jsut looks like a mutant rabbit
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>>159751938
>Superman
>Good
It's decent at absolute best.
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>>159752032
The absolute shittaste of shonentards.
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>>159752009
Everyone makes fun of it being a shitty costume too. It just gives Deku more room to grow.
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>>159751282
>an iconic design
>Luffy, Naruto, Ichigo
None these character designs were meant to be iconic (I'm not even sure why you brought up Ichigo other than you being stupid) they became that way due to popularity hell people hate Naruto's design because it looked nothing like a traditional ninja.

>It may seem minuscule to plebeians but being so flip floppy and unable to create a single solid iconic design is extremely amateurish of the mangaka
Hey dumbfuck, designs are never made to be iconic in mind they become so with popularity. You can say Luffy's design is iconic NOW because the manga is 20 years old you wouldn't be saying a strawhat and a vest is iconic when OP was three years old.
>>159751595
And you're a fucking idiot.
>>159751850
Thats because your tastes is awful and miss the entire point of his conception.
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>>159751894
t. Asspained Bleachfag
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>>159750432
Nigger are you dumb? He's clearly setting things up. We came off that hype as fuck AfO fight. Build the deku/Baku relationship with their fight. Now he's setting up what shiggy and co are doing. Also clearly showcasing how bad things are with all might gone. Even "normie" yakuza thugs are making a big comeback. Im personally enjoying how he's fleshing out these side characters. It's pretty clear he knows where the story is going, from chapter 1 it's been said this is Dekus journey to become the #1 hero. Sorry you're an idiot.
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>>159751976
>>159752061
>>159752087

It being on purpose doesn't change the fact that he's a shitty designed main character, and him being so for so long now is starting to be a problem.

>Thats because your tastes is awful
>coming from a shonenfag
You seem upset, popped in your diaper again, manbaby?
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>>159752161
>The purpose of the character resolves around his plainness
>Gets a design that showcases this
>he's a shitty designed because I say so
Great argument kid
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>>159752161
> Long standing character arcs take a long time to develop!
Wew lad
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The new arc Is dragging too much

Around 2 months for 2 filler fights
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>>159752256
>plainness is good character design for a superhero

Have you bumped your head as a toddler?

>>159752296
> Long standing character arcs take a long time to develop!

The problem is when they take more than necessary.
Do we really need 500 chapters of Deku being the shitty-looking underdog that could.
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>>159752383
Sorry anon you're looking for All Might action comics over yonder >>>/co/
This is My Hero Academy, which is the extended foreplay that happens before action comics.
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I'm gonna keep saying it, An important character needs to die.
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>>159752469
>This is My Hero Academy, which is the extended foreplay that happens before action comics.

But some of the best moments of the manga are when AM gets into action.
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>>159752469

>Best Moments of the series come from All Might

>Being this retarded

Also, your reply doesn't refute the fact that this arc is dragging too much, retard.
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>>159750188
It's shit because Deku is boring and so is his power
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>>159752383
>The new arc Is dragging too much
>More than half way done now
Do you have ADHD or something?
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>>159751282
Deku's retarded green hair is iconic enough. Hori is just terrible with most of his costume designs.
>second paragraph
(You)
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>>159750523
>So basically all the villains band together, and all of the heroes band together, because as we can see there aren't that many villains or heroes that are actually capable of working on their own
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>>159752469
The only good moments are when AM does something though
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>58 posts
>20 posters
OP, chill a little with the samefagging.
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>>159752468
Goes to show how much of a pleb you are and how you know next to nothing about character design.
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> All this onefagging
So basically you just want an intermission of All Might running around punching things?
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>>159752648
And when Deku goes full madman: Todo and Muscle guy but it's been awhile. Stain Arc is still good.

https://streamable.com/kf86s
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>That time Deku was being a little bitch because he found out All Might gave One for All to him on a whim
What a pathetic faggot
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>>159750536
>It started off strong

No it fucking didn't.
It started off as a generic shonen manga with no identity outside the good art. It was only after the first sports festival when things truly started to get interesting
And right now most of class 1A has their licences and can become actual sidekicks, helping take down real menacing foes.
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>>159752721
Yes but Deku will fill All Might's role
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There's no tension anymore ever since All Might lived. Hori has no balls
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>>159752754
Are you done samefaging OP
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Chapter this week was only 10 pages? Is Hori dying?
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>>159752842
I'm not OP. I literally just posted
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>>159752754
If it wasn't for all the cool fight scenes after blueballing and the pervious arc this could have been the worst arc. Nighteye and Mirio aren't complelling characters but Fatgum squad is
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>>159752841
It'd be so much better if AM died, then came back to life, then died for REAL this time, then came back, but died this time for sure.
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>>159750680
It only appears so since you're reading it currently. License exam was boring I took a break and breezed through it. This is the same thing. It'll be good in one sitting but the slow weekly nature makes it seem worse then it is.
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>>159752754
>Was more concern over the predictiob of AM dying than the fact he was never chosen

How about instead of shitposting you read the manga
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>>159752487
>>159752841
>people need to die for high stakes and drama!

Fuck off.
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>>159752877
>>159752890
>>159752841
>>159752798
Looks like Grapefag is at it again
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>>159751353
Naruto Part 1 handled this pretty well
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>>159751282
t. an autistic fag who knows nothing about character design


If you've gotten bad vibes maybe don't go shitting up the threads huh? Or perhaps you just want to spew your retarded autism on us. Dekus costume changes and him getting permenantly fucked up from his power is actually a pretty cool thing Horis doing. Sorry your favorite self insert Mary Sue super-cool looking character isn't the mc.
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>>159752702
>this idiot thinks Cap Marvel's design is plain

Can you please rip off your finger and stop posting forever.
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>>159751353
It's barely 100 chapter long, and Naruto pre-timeskip was great.

You're an underage idiot.
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It's not bleach, backstory for Kirishima is nice, sorry you have advanced ADHD and need constant fighting to keep your retard attention
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>>159752841
Do you think that he showcased Chisaki's power just to look cool? Mirio will get blown up just as Deku enters Eri's room.
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>>159753015
>him getting permenantly fucked up from his power
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>159753016
It is very plain
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>>159752628
>Deku's retarded green hair is iconic enough
>being this deluded
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>>159753018
>and Naruto pre-timeskip was great.
Yeah for one arc
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>>159752945
>AM is reckless even though he's getting weaker
>Still manages to live
Come on
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>>159750726
Summer Training Camp was bad
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>>159752946
>muh boogeyman
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>>159752946
if someone Matthew Shepard's that fucking faggot queer grapesfag Id be pretty happy. He deserves death
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>>159753102
Maybe great is an overstatement but there's no bad arc in Naruto pre-timeskip, which I guess happened around chapter 200? Hori is pretty shit already.
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>>159753066
Nigger did you not read/see? Ligaments are fucked. Hand is fucked. Going too crazy will fuck him up even worse. Jesus Christ you dumb speedreader
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>>159753117
>bad
>Madman Deku
No
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I want this shit show to end.
Japs should stop admire Cape Shit and come up with something new instead.
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>>159753196
Theres no bad arc in MHA either and he's doing things that Kishi faiked to do in Part I
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>>159752841
>>159752900

>deathfags
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>>159753221
>Deku pls stop punching
>Oh my god Deku you punched please don't do it again
>Seriously Deku it's the last time you can afford to
>Okay now you really gotta quit doing that Deku
>Deku, you literally cannot throw one more punch without life-long injuries
>Okay that last one didn't count, now you can't do it anymore

Can't wait until the next big battle arrive and he's forced to punch but wait actually it's fine now phew.
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>>159753105
He lived because of Deku. When he pointed at th camera to direct the message and pass on his torch to Deku was great.
Everyone watching the live broadcast cheering Al Might on was great. All for One wanting to crush the hope of the people by trying to kill him was great.

The conversation All Might had with All for One in the prison gave an insight to what those two characters were. And It showed All Might in his Hero costume, all deflated, clearly a role not fit for him anymore and it was all interesting to see because he lived.

Jeanist on the other hand should have died.
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>>159753330
Tournament arc in the first 50 chapters
Forest arc
Bakugou rescue arc

I dropped the manga then but I'm certain it didn't improve.
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>>159753484
You're not even fucking trying
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>>159753438
First time he was warned of his predicament was after the Sports Festival, second time was after the forest where he saw the extent iof injuring himself had taken him which made him revamp his fighting style. At least read the manga shitposter-kun.
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>>159753560
Wouldn't be a BnHA thread if you didn't cry that anyone calling your favorite manga crap is a shitposter.

Completely serious, non-joking question: why don't you move to reddit where the hugbox you try to make here already exists ?
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>>159753686
Wouldnt be a BnHA thread without shitposters asking for (you)s in stead of making an argument.

Why not join a discord so you can hate circlejerk the manga? Or better yet go in 2ch they seem to autistically hate it as much as yoy do.
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Honest question, how is Bakugou so popular? He's an entitled little shit with his only redeeming quality being that he genuinely wants to become a hero, which he shares with everyone else.

Is it simply a matter of having more exposure than most other characters?
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>>159753764
Why do you assume that I'm the one who have to make an argument, actually? You haven't made any either. I can just say what I think of your first shonen and leave you with your shit tastes. It's not like I'm missing out pn anything.

Can't help but see you haven't answered my question too, so I won't answer yours.
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>>159753686
>why don't you move to reddit where the hugbox you try to make here already exists ?

The main reason shonenfags moved here is because here they don't have any form of accountability.
If you say stupid shit on reddit, as typical as it is, you do so under an username that tracks any stupid shit you say.
And shonenfags, by their nature, say a lot of stupid shit.
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>>159754036
>I can just say what I think of your first shonen and leave you with your shit tastes.
And you'll still look like a retard for posting in a thread about a manga you don't like wanting attention.

>Can't help but see you haven't answered my question too
What question?
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>>159753959
His negative qualities are the things that people like about him. Flawed characters are appealing, both for the sake of their flaws, and because flaws mean room to grow.
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>>159754101
>BnHA can't actually read
>They only look at the OP picture and think that surely it is a thread to praise their masterpiece

I suspected it but still.
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>>159754036
So you admit you're just shitposting.
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>>159754201
>BnHA can't actually read
Fucking irony
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Whelp at least the fanbase is smart enough to know that /a/ would go full hipster once it became popular so don't bother taking bait.
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>>159754157
Good point, I do enjoy flawed characters as long as they mess up, have to face the results and are forced to grow from the experience. I just don't feel like Bakugou really went through that.

I mean, he blames himself for getting kidnapped and All Might's subsequent depowering, but I feel that's less him messing up and more him making everything about himself. He did fail the test for the Provisional Hero Licence, so maybe that'll be the trigger to his growth.

But for now, he just seems like an overpowered jerkass.
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>>159754253
>lol he forgot a word

At least I can read an OP post.
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>>159750613
what the fuck are you talking about.
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>>159753959
He's the only interesting one who has the most visible character development. Everytime he does something new or something we wouldn't expect makes me like him more. Like giving Deku advice on how to improve his fighting style or complementing Urara early on. That shit is awesome. It's that and a lot of the other characters are forgettable.
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>>159752798

The first chapters are one of the greatest introduction for a series.

Nothing in the sports festival arc Beats Deku trying to save Deku and All Might accepting he was pathetic for standing still.

Same for YES, YOU CAN BE A SUPERHERO TOO
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>>159754703

*Deku trying to save Bakugou
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>>159754703
In retrospect, the start of the serie was a giant red flag
>If you want something but never actually train to achieve that goal, you might get lucky and make it anyway
>Cops are something only weak little bitches pick as a career.
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>>159754776

But Deku didn't got OfA out of luck

He got it because he did something not Even All Might AKA the GOAT couldn't do
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>>159752161
Ah we have found the seinen fag who only reads "muh deep manga"
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>>159754827
>But Deku didn't got OfA out of luck
He got lucky that he met All Might.

And you can't say he worked for it, he never trained until he had OfA as a carrot.
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>>159754673
Its only visible because he starts at tge opposite sude if the spectrum he's far from the most interesting either.
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>>159755191
>He got lucky that he met All Might.
So fucking what? AM would not have given it to him had he not risked his life to save Bakugou.

Except he did have to work hard for it or did you forget the months of training he had to endure bedore AM transferred it to him?
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>>159751353
>>Massive power inflation

Fuck I hated this shit so fucking much. Remember when Sasuke and Naruto had to put their heads together and think of a strategy just to make Zabusa's move 2 feet? That shit actually made sense.

If current day Kishimoto wrote that scene, Naruto and Sasuke would have unleashed their gen-zen-tai-ninjutstu special attack teamwork beam and just killed Zabusa or have him escape saying something like 'wow these novice ninjas are so strong someone like me who's been doing it for years can't even compete to these two chosen ones!' I'd say the tipping point was Naruto v Sasuke right before Shippuden. Their fight was essentially 'MY SECRET POWER AGAINST YOUR AAAAAAHHHH' with no strategy whatsoever. Besides Shikamaru's fights, everything else was just 'who is the faster/stronger japanese wizard'.
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>>159755191
>And you can't say he worked for it, he never trained until he had OfA as a carrot.

That's the point though. His entire life was full of people telling him 'you can't amount to anything, just give up'. Even his mom was telling him he can't achieve his dreams. And even then he still had his aspirations to be a hero. It wasn't about his hard work at that point, it was about his heart and determination. Then the top hero in the world straight up told him 'you can do it' and he worked harder than anyone else. He even outworked the top hero in the world's workout schedule just to be able to get a quirk.
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>>159755191
>He got lucky that he met All Might.

That sets the premise for the plot. It was necessary to have a story. Also it doesn't matter if their encounter was based on "luck". It's a pointless statement.

>And you can't say he worked for it
He did, and still is.
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>>159754776
>Cops are something only weak little bitches pick as a career

If you want super squadron militarized cops watch Jin-Ro or Panzer Cops.

In a world of superheroes being a career, what makes you think cops can compete in peace keeping.

Hell, even the yakuza family trade has almost died out because super villains have taken over the underworld in the story's setting.
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>>159750337
>First chapter literally tells you what the story is about and its end goal
"MC reaches the intangible, subjective goal of becoming the best" is neither plot nor direction.
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>>159752945
>they're entering the world of mass murdering villains and superheroes who put their lives on the line every single day
>nobody dies to drive home the fact that they're not fucking around as kids, they're in the adult's world

While I don't think that death is the only way to build drama, it's kinda hard to convince me that they're in danger when nobody has died. I know they've come close to doing it, but until someone actually dies, I feel as though everyone just has plot armor and there's no suspense.

I don't think this arc will result in any of the UA students dying, and if I don't think that, what's the point in putting them in grave danger? What's the point of building suspense with a massive raid when I don't feel a sense of worry for them? It was like in Naruto to where the only person of the 'young generation' or whatever they were called to die was fucking Neji at the very end.
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>>159755191
He's been trying all these years to get to UA
WITHOUT A QUIRK
He jumped into battle to help someone
WITHOUT A QUIRK
He still believed in his dreams of becoming a hero
WITHOUT A QUIRK

All Might just thought "Hey, this kid has a great heart, no inflated ego from having an OP quirk, and dedication. If he can prove himself worthy of my power physically (because he already has mentally) then he'll be perfect."

And he pretty much is. He still even thinks he's not worthy of the power even though he's growing so much for it. His modesty and humility are definitely his best qualities.
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>>159756320
I think that that's coming. If I was a mangaka I'd try to develop the characters as much as I could before they died (and not some shitty flashback 2 chapters before their death) to make the emotional impact the strongest.

Mark my words, someone in 1-A will die in this arc or the next.
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>>159756278
The plot is seeing the main character become the best and starting from having no quirk.
When you watch a prequel there is still a plot even though you know how it's going to end by watching a later movie.
Whatever part of a timeline the story is set in it still has a plot and direction is what the author will do to get there.

What you are trying to say, that a story with a set end goal does not have a plot, is completely nonsensical.
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Fuck you /a/ now I fucking hate this story.
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>>159750536
>It started off strong,
Hell no, it started off terribly. MHA began as if it was written as an unimpressive fan character jumping into the Naruto universe.
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>>159756348
>He's been trying all these years to get to UA
By never training his body? I honestly don't recall that part, but if I remember right he only had his notebook.

>He jumped into battle to help someone
And yet in the same chapter he's a spineless faggot who bow before Bakugou, zero reason for him to suddenly grow a pair. But it's standard shonen MC stuff so I get it

>He still believed in his dreams of becoming a hero
A dream he never worked toward
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>>159756348

You are inserting your own desire to have a quirkless hero. That itself would be unrealistic in this world unless you want a Batman/Tony Stark archetype. Then we would have people like you bitch about "he can only get so far because he has a power suit/money/convenience to make his feats possible in a crazy world.

Deku doing heroic things without a quirk and with not much control when he does get a quirk is to show what he is willing to sacrifice to save someone. That's it. That's all there was to it for the first chapter.

All Might likes this about him and decides to take him under him and pass on his own power. It's a quality he did not expect from someone who is quirkless when even people with quirks like Kirishima cowered in middle school againts a threat bigger than him.
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>>159751282
Jesus, those black knee/elbow pads are hideous.
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>>159756487
There isn't a defined standard for "becoming the best hero". We don't know what this goal consists of, and maybe even the author doesn't yet.
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>>159756764
Yes there is, having the highest saving rate among all heroes and defeating evildoers.
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>>159756733
>That itself would be unrealistic in this world unless you want a Batman/Tony Stark archetype
Doesn't the spinoff manga have a quirkless hero?
Can you honestly say that you're concerned with things being realistic when almost everyone has a superpower and somehow society barely changed?
Also I'd remind you that one guy accepted at UA just has a fucking tail as his quirk. And judging by the feats characters like Stain pull people without physical quirk can still get pretty strong.
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>>159756916
He's a peak performance human who can't legally become a hero so he became a vigilante that can only goe face to face with petty villains
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>>159756996
He still beats up villains with quirks, right?
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>>159757022
yes but at a lower scale than a licenced hero. You see the difference in strength when Aizawa curb-stomps all the initial villains that the buff old man was facing againts to regular people with quirks
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>>159756764
>>159756840
Also it's crucial to have a license to be considered a hero in this world
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>>159756278
>MC reaches the intangible, subjective goal of becoming the best
There's literally a ranking of the world's top heroes.
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Personally i hope Shigaraki does manage to make the hero society of BHNA crumble because frankly heroes should be about helping pepole and not inflating their own blown egos. I hope Deku and the next generation help reform the hero system.
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>>159751353
>>Ship wars
Those will always exist
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>>159752158
>"normie"
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>>159755951
Just look at Boruto.

He's already got a special snowflake eye that is equal to the god damn rinnegan, and an ability similar to Kamui. Why people are saying it's not a shitty sequel is beyond me.

The inflation in power is monumental.
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>>159756278
Official translation doesn't say that he becomes the best. Says he becomes one of the best.
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test
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>>159757267
There's actually a pretty good reason for this since the world went through a whole "We have superpowers, WE SHOULD RULE THE WORLD" phase and nobody wants people using Quirks recklessly.

It's kinda like how police officers have to go through police academy.
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>>159757757
>t.Stain
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>>159756278
>Subjective
They have a ranking list. That is obtainable.
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still better than one piece
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>>159750188
It hasn't lost the fun style or charming characters yet, so that alone makes it not Bleach. Bleach's biggest problem wasn't that the story turned to shit (though that wasn't good), but that it lose the appeal it had in the beginning. As long as he can keep the characters likable and the style enjoyable, even shit arcs will be decent.
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>>159756278
There's an objective ranking system for the heroes though. It's also introduced almost immediately alongside ALL MIGHT. If you're going to hate something, at least base your criticisms off of actual content, not shit you've invented because you can't be bothered to watch even one episode/read a handful of chapters.
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>>159759343
>charming characters yet
Who? There's All Might and that's pretty much it.
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At least people can't deny that the art's great
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>>159759427
Pretty much all of them aside from Deku. Even Bakugou is likable in a cunty kind of way. If you don't like them then I guess that's fine, but obviously most do so what's the purpose of you chimping out over it? Just hide BnHA threads and don't consume this particular series, it's that easy.
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>>159759282
One Piece
>better worldbuilding
>better powers for the MC
>better use of secondary cast
>better fights
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>>159759509
>Pretty much all of them aside from Deku.
Considering Deku do like 75% of the things that matter on his own in the manga and suggest 20% more I really have trouble seeing why people like them.

Also I thought this thread was created by a guy that doesn't like the serie so maybe you should hide it yourself?
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>>159759609
It's not that hard to see. I'd you can't then you either have actual autism, or shounen as a whole isn't to your liking.

Nah.
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Can we all agree that this series would be a million times better if ALL MIGHT was the protagonist and Deku never existed?
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>>159759525
>better powers for the MC
He punches things
>better fights
What the fuck is going is?
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>>159759609
>Considering Deku do like 75% of the things that matter on his own in the manga and suggest 20% more I really have trouble seeing why people like them.
>Past 10 chapters has focused on side cast
>In fact they're arcs dedicated to them as well
Are you done?
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>>159759904
He watched three episodes and thought he could talk shit about the whole story, even the manga.
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>>159759509
>aside from Deku
> Even Bakugou is likable in a cunty kind of way.

Could you be anymore of a fucking faggot?
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>>159759681
No, I like shounen, probably more than you considering you actually think shit like BnHA has a good cast. Introducing like 20 characters at once and barely using them for things that are actually important to the plot

>>159759904
>last 10 chapters
Sorry I dropped this right after the author backed out of All Might's death and you went from "Wow he's actually going to kill him, get hype this is All Might's last dance, who wanna bet he'll show up again in Deku's mind" to "10/10 the author is a genuis killing him would've been too cliché everyone can see that"

But in the ~90 chapters I read the secondary cast was pathetic and their only use was to follow Deku's order so if your only point is stuff that happened in the last three months I wouldn't know.
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>>159750188
It's basically Naruto 2.0 borrowing the worst parts of it.
Anything past S1 is trash.
hyped for United smash
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>>159756733
>That itself would be unrealistic in this world unless you want a Batman/Tony Stark archetype.

orrrrr you could read Vigilante and see how a quirkless hero actually works
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>>159759798
Nope. Deku is a great protagonist and All-Might is fantastic as a mentor. One is learning how to be a hero, the other learns how to teach him that. That's an amazing dynamic.
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>>159760036
> author backed out of All Might's death
Admit it, you simply expected a death and got a "fuck you, he lives" instead which pissed you off
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>First arc with Deku was very solid and inspirational
>Tournament arc was the best, climax was shit, but everything else was top tier
>Hero Killer is meh besides the actual fight itself.
>Forest is great
>Bakugou rescue arc is shit besides AfOvsOfA and Bakugou admiting he fucked up getting caught
>Hero Exam was meh
>This arc is shit

What happened?
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>>159750188
Never compare this hack to Kubo ever again.
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>>159760036
>But in the ~90 chapters I read the secondary cast was pathetic and their only use was to follow Deku's order
>In the Stain arc he's largely supporting and doesn't bring Iida back from his funk
>In the End of the Term Exams his Bakugou doesn't even listen to him and both of their plans are up in smoke
>During the Camp arc everyone is doing their own thing and once again the person he winds up contributing the most are characters such as Shouji, Todoroki, Momo and even Aoyama.

You didn't actually read this did you?

>>159760234
>Bakugou rescue arc is shit
>Hero Exam was meh
>This arc is shit
Did you think that your tastes is just bad?
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>>159759836
>He punches things
Bullshit. Oda actually put thought into Luffy's quirk and settled for a rubber man because it would still look goofy even in tense situations. And when Oda want to make Luffy more powerful he has to comes up with gears, haki and how to mix them.

Deku's quirk is literally just super strength, with the originality being that he can't control it well at first (to no consequences anyway, but you can't really expect a manga about an handicapped MC, pic related flopped after all). All his power boost comes from him learning to use that power, but functionally, he's not going to do anything else than punches/kicks/headbutts.

>What the fuck is going is?
I'd say MHA has better art but OP has better fights, does that make sense?
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>Deku's costume sucks
>No one has posted his proper costume and attack the purposely shitty costume his mom sewed up for him
It's insane that people dont consider even just his name alone to be iconic as fuck at this point, let alone his pretty recognizable costume.

>>159760234
>What happened?
Catching up and having to wait week by week happened.
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>>159760330
Not to mention
>those shoes
I want a pair
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>>159760327
>In the Stain arc he's largely supporting and doesn't bring Iida back from his funk
Who suggest the strategy to bring Stain down?.
>In the End of the Term Exams his Bakugou doesn't even listen to him and both of their plans are up in smoke
So you agree that it was Bakugou's fault for losing the exam since he didn't listen to Deku
>During the Camp arc everyone is doing their own thing and once again the person he winds up contributing the most are characters such as Shouji, Todoroki, Momo and even Aoyama.
Remind me who destroy the psycho villain trying to kill the kid, who lure Black Shadow to the guys with quirks able to produce lights (if I remember right, it also led to the villain with long teeth getting knocked out), and who suggest the set-up to catch the Magician?
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>>159760330
>This
>Iconic
>Pretty recognizable

No. But it's a step up from the retarded bunny costume.
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>>159760330
Still looks like shit.
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>>159760328
>Oda actually put thought into Luffy's quirk and settled for a rubber man because it would still look goofy even in tense situations.
An all Luffy does is punches people. What's his new secret move? Punch people. What does he do when that fails? Punch harder.
>Deku's quirk is literally just super strength,
Its a stock retard he can either life several times his weight, leap tall buildings or have acceleration.
>to no consequences anyway
His ligaments are permanently fucked now
>he's not going to do anything else than punches/kicks/headbutts.
And here you are defending a character who's big secret move involves using an even bigger fist to punch harder
>but OP has better fights
The fights in OP has become very very sloppy and Oda doesn't seem to want to draw any fight but Luffy's or ends tertiary characters fights quickly or make them into jokes.
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>>159760417
This so much. His shoes are fly as absolute fuck.
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>People thinking BnHA is Big 3 material
Hell no.

The thing with this series is that it came at the right time when Naruto went full fanfiction and Kubo dropped Bleach and said "fuck this, I'm tired of this manga, let's just do whatever and be done with it" so people needed their shonen dose besides One Piece (which has been shit since Impel Down).

I hope it gets better, because it has potential and a setting that could last for a longass time if it prints money, but it needs to improve in a lot of things besides the fights and the power levels not going full retard. The world isn't interesting, villains are garbage and one dimensional and the pacing sucks.
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>>159760330
His shoot style upgrade to that costume looks pretty cool, but that mask is still fucking stupid. At least remove the bunny ears.
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>>159760445
>Who suggest the strategy to bring Stain down?.
Not him, there was actually no strategy they just needed to knock him out
>So you agree that it was Bakugou's fault for losing the exam since he didn't listen to Deku
Both of their plans didn't work; Deku wanted to run but All Might caught up with them and Bakugou wanted to fight but he got destroyed. In the end they managed to barely pass.
>Remind me who destroy the psycho villain trying to kill the kid
Was literally inconsequntial to the whole thing
>who lure Black Shadow to the guys with quirks able to produce lights
They literally bumped into them.
Now then. Who saved all the students that were caught in the gas attack? Who actually saved Tokoyami from being caught? Who dragged Deku about when he couldn't move his body from overexerting himself? That's what I thought.
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>>159760537
Not him but you've never read One Piece, have you?
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>>159760328
>I'd say MHA has better art but OP has better fights, does that make sense?
Bullshit, OP hasn't had amazing fights since Water 7. Only Luffy vs Doflamingo stands out, can't even think of a single iconic fight besides that.
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>>159760488
>I don't like it so other people surely can't recognize it

>>159760491
Sure isn't the greatest design in the series but it surely aint shit. It's simple just like Deku himself but still has enough going on for people to recognize it well.

>>159760675
He thankfully almost never puts on the cowl anymore.
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>>159760488
>>159760491
>>159760675
Here's a (you) for sticking for so long with this charade
>>159760716
>Not him
Yeah sure you are also not an argument. Tell me, how many actual one on one fights did OP had in the past 20 chapters? Fights that didn't involve clashes and spreads that didn't end anti-climatically.
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It is pretty fucking dull.
The only reason why capeshit is tolerable is because it's either edgy or camp as fuck.
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>>159760537
>What's his new secret move?
>Water Luffy
>His fight against Enel
>Gear 2, 3&4
>His Red hawk move
>Any move where he combine 1 or 2 gears togeher

Yes, Luffy is always going to punch people, but unlike Deku, he can do it in different ways. And all his new moves

You really have to be a complete fanboy to deny that the amount of thought put into Luffy's and Deku's powers is even remotely equal.

>Oda doesn't seem to want to draw any fight but Luffy's or ends tertiary characters fights quickly or make them into jokes.
Dressrosa had plenty of fights not involving Luffy, and while I haven't read the last chapters I think it's a group fight with Luffy in it.

Anyway you complain about Oda ending fights quickly but Hori does it, but it's less important because the fights don't matter anyway.
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>>159760761
>I don't like it so other people surely can't recognize it
It's not about not liking it, I actually think it's alright, it got a practical feel to it, but it's not iconic.
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>>159751282
>Completely missing the point that it's about him changing himself and growing up to become a hero
It's not meant to be a finalized design
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>>159752009
until the popstep love reveal
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>>159761105
I thought it was cute and actually gave her some reasonable reason to be tagging along with two criminal psychos but it was totally cliche as all fuck and tacked on.
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>>159760735
The sad thing is that the only fights since then were the shitty Luffy vs Cracker fight, Sanji jobbing as usual, and now everyone jobbing in messy and cluttered panels.

At least the BnHA fights have strategy and actual prolonged focus on them.
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>Naruto was bad from the start!
I hate this meme. Land of the Waves, Chunin Exams,Konoha Crush and Sound Four/Sasuke Recovery Mission were great arcs, hell even the first half of shippuden with Sasori and Deidara the Zombi Duo, Pain vs Jiraya, and Itachi vs Sasuke was good
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>>159760328
Shut the fuck up, BNHA is the best shonen ever made, it blows naruto bleach and one pissu out of the water, and it hasn't even gotten the ball rolling yet
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>>159760898
>Water Luffy
Gum Gum Storm - Luffy first uses Gomu Gomu no Balloon and twists his body around tightly, then blows the air out behind him while untwisting to fly in forward while spinning towards an opponent, where he delivers a constant barrage of powerful punches
>powerful punches

>His fight against Enel
Gum-Gum Golden Rifle - Luffy twists his arm around as he stretches it behind him and hits the opponent at close range, massively increasing the velocity of the punch as twisting the arm stretches the arm even further without having to draw it back any longer which also saves the amount of time the kick-back takes.
>punch

> Red hawk -
Fire punch
>Gears
pumping blood into his body so he can punch faster and harder
>but unlike Deku, he can do it in different ways.
It's literally just different variations of the same fucking punch. Also Deku doesn't just punch he uses every extend of his body to unleash OfA from his fingers to now his legs to where he figures out that he can spread it all throughout his body.

>You really have to be a complete fanboy to deny that the amount of thought put into Luffy's and Deku's powers is even remotely equal.

You're calling me a fanboy when you've proven you haven't even read the series while criticizing the fight style of the MC that involves punches while praising another that's nothing but punching? I guess that makes you a hypocrite

>Dressrosa had plenty of fights not involving Luffy
And they were all terrible for the most part.

>Anyway you complain about Oda ending fights quickly but Hori does it
Not really, he just doesn't draw them out pass the point of them being interesting
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>>159761419
>Konoha Crush
Was largely just boring
>Sound Four/Sasuke Recovery Mission
Was the beginning of the bullshit
>Itachi vs Sasuke
Oh wait you're serious
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>>159750188
>>159750536
Damn grapefag I can't believe someone can be so salty about nothing. You are truly pathetic, and that's something I do't tell anyone, not even on 4chan.
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>>159760328
>pic related flopped after all
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>>159761523
I really want to know why you quoted like three quarters of my post but not this part :

>Yes, Luffy is always going to punch people

>Also Deku doesn't just punch he uses every extend of his body to unleash OfA from his fingers to now his legs to where he figures out that he can spread it all throughout his body.
yeah, so does Luffy? Both are melee fighters.

>And they were all terrible for the most part.
Like? Some were shorts but I can't remember any that I'd call terrible.

>Not really, he just doesn't draw them out pass the point of them being interesting
So, same reasoning as Oda then?
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>>159760328
>FMA
>Flopped
What did he mean by this?
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>>159761685
>Yes, Luffy is always going to punch people
Because I want to know where the fuck is your argument. Luffy doesn't have any variety to his moveset unless you're that much of a blind fantard
>yeah, so does Luffy?
Nope, just another rapid succession of punches.
>Like?
Zoro vs Pica (though every post timeskip Zoro fight has been shit)
Sai vs Lao G (why did Oda waste time on this bullshit when nobody gives a shit about Baby 5 or Sai)

Diamante vs Kyros

You know what virtually every fight against the Doflamingo Pirates was a disappointment or taken as a joke.

>So, same reasoning as Oda then?
Yep we sure did needed chapters wasted on that Franky fight with Senor Pnk all for an unfunny punchline.
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>>159756278
how is it subjective when they literally have numbered rankings for all the top heroes?
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>>159761582
>Itachi vs Sasuke
>bad
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>>159762123
That's not nearly as good as Todo and Deku fight
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>>159751894

That's rich coming from a boy that hopped on the Bleach sucked after the Rescure Rukia bandwagon.
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>>159762123

Itachi vs Sasuke was pretty good but the aftermath was fucking terrible and caused the biggest spiral into dumb bullshit in the series
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>>159759402
>>159762101
and do we know how they are rated?
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>>159762123

The climax to that battle was pretty solid too. You knew Itachi wasn't going to make it but, you couldn't help but hope that he would win.
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>>159762123
>Fight is largely just a series of asspull after asspull and who can out asspull the other
>Oh look Orochimaru is back
>Oh he's dead again
>It turns out itachi was a good guy all this time thus completely destroying any semblance of sense the series had at that point

It was the beginning of the end for Naruto ever being good again
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>>159762215
After that fight Sasuke became irredeemable garbage
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>>159750188
The only lack of direction is that there are too many characters and Hori keeps adding more. Adding Inasa to the hero license exam arc was unnecessary, with Todoroki already sperging out over his past in the sports festival and Inasa just being a mix of already existing characters. While Hori can keep the manga going by going into the background of characters, going into Kirishima's background in the last two chapters just seemed like stalling actual new content
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>>159762336
>Yeah...sorry
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>>159762316
>Fight is largely just a series of asspull after asspull and who can out asspull the other

Better than Muh Hero and Never Give up Spirit makes me win.
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>>159762459
>going into the background of a character we've never actually delved into before is stalling for new content
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>>159762053
>Luffy doesn't have any variety to his moveset
You are just bullshitting.

http://bokunoheroacademia.wikia.com/wiki/Izuku_Midoriya
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Monkey_D._Luffy/Abilities_and_Powers

Let's compare both parts of thoses pages talking about both character's movesets.

What the fuck is your argument? That a punch is a punch and so, no matter how it's thrown it's always the same thing?

You are retarded and hell, I'm even going to screencap your post so I'll occasionnaly repost it to have a laugh.

>>159762053
>Yep we sure did needed chapters wasted on that Franky fight with Senor Pnk all for an unfunny punchline.
But it was a good fight, and I have zero idea why you thought that last sentence was suppsoed to be a punchline to any kind of joke.
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>>159762520
>Better than Muh Hero and Never Give up Spirit makes me win.
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>>159762596
Post the 1000000% pages.
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>>159762520
>"I didn't read this series" the post
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>>159762459

>too many characters and adding characters

This is the dumbest criticism I always see. The purpose of adding characters is to build up the world around them. Obviously not all of them will get immediate action/background scenes. Oda does the same goddamn thing. These characters fuck off to do their own thing while the MC and co do theirs and will likely have converging stories in the future. It makes the world seem more alive and not entirely revolve around the protagonist and his group
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>>159762672
What are you trying to convey again?
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It's part of berserk

and madoka

directionless is the exact opposite of this manga
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>>159762533
Deku
>Punch
>Kick
>Stomp
>Air Slice
>Jump
>Strike

Luffy
>Punch
>Punch
>kick
>Punch
>Fire Punch
>Big Punch
Wow...so much variety
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>>159752158
>the show is how deku became a hero told by himself
>chapters focus on red riot's backstory
B R A V O
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It went full shounen battle manga way too fast.

It's got a huge cast that we barely get to know and now we only see them when they're fighting.

Naruto kept the cast small at the start. Negima took a long time introducing most of the the class before it went into a full battle manga. BnHA chose the worst combination.
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What the fuck are these faggots even arguing about? OP and BNHA are two completely different stories.
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>>159762846
You realise that you are the reasons BnHAfags are one of the most cancerous communities on /a/, right?
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>>159762689
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>>159762942
Fuck you
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>>159750188
>limited story teller Hori is
>Current arc is about the protagonist and antagonist proving they are the worthy successors to their mentors by presenting each of them with a rival they must simultaneously work with and prove themselves superior to.
When did Bleach do anything as creative as this? How is this derivative of any arc prior in Boku no Hero?
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>>159762942
Source? This sounds pretty subjective.
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>>159762903
>ONLY TEH MC SHOULD GET FOCUS AT ALL TIME
Its funny that this type of logic is what killed Naruto
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>>159762960
THEY'RE NOT EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR
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>>159750188
started off amazing, now it slowly is devolving into a shit show.
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>>159762960
>Character nearly kills himself stalling and protecting the other so he could release the immense stored up power of his prior beating and end the fight
>This equates to "muh hero" or "never give up"
Both of them relied on beinf durable and nearly fucking died.
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>>159762215
the whole Itachi-Sasuke dynamic is distilled stupidity. It can be boiled down to:
>I did this for the greater good of the village, lil bro. And I couldn't bring myself to kill you because I love you so much, now live your life (sike, I'll depart while making you obsessed with me! get stonger and chase me you weakass)
>BROOO WHY DID THE VILLAGE MAKE YOU DU DIS. I'll kill them all, I'll avenge you, yes I will (nevermind that you did it as an act as self-sacrifice and destroying the village essentially undone whatever you've done)
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>>159763014
There was a thread a couple days ago about it. I think it was a tie with Fatefags and Isekaifags, and then BnHA.
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>>159756707
if you hate the fucking character just say it man
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>>159763072
not saying it should focus only on deku, but if the story is his storytelling then how can you tell other characters' backstories without deku being there?
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>>159762960
>The Rookie is the one who needed saving and was only used as a shield so that the PROFESSIONAL HERO could defeat the bad guy

What's the problem here?
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>>159763094
(You)
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>>159752497
imo what makes those fights so outstanding is how much they contrast the rest of the show, if the whole show / manga was all might in action it would lose its entertainment value.
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>>159763127
It wouldn't surprise me. A good chunk of most BNHA threads are posters circklejerking about how BNHA is better than every shonen ever.

Like this fag>>159761518
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>>159763143
I actually do. He's a little shit and the main reason I dropped the manga. But still, I don't think any of thoses three statements are wrong.
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>>159762942
>(insert fandom I don't like) are the most cancerous communities on /a/

Where have I seen this before?
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>>159750188
Not really. Bleach had a stronger start, was an almost 1:1 rip-off of YuYu Hakusho and the character art didn't really look that great until later on in the series. The most memorable thing about Bleach was Kubo's asspulls. I'd also say zanpakutoh are a nice balance between "limited fighting style we all do" and "crazy individual bullshit," with a dramatic way of activating them. Bleach had one good saga in it and it was just on Repeat after that. There are some shining moments later on, but they're surrounded by shit.

My Hero Academia doesn't have a strong start. It started off feeling like the author didn't expect it to be popular, at all. It does have very striking character art, though, perhaps the best of any battle shounen. Speaking of which, while it's not a 1:1: rip-off, it is HEAVILY inspired by almost every battle shounen that came before it. The most obvious, and it can be obnoxious when you notice it, is Naruto, but if you can suffer through the first year's worth of chapters, you'll realize the series actively satirizes/subverts Naruto characters and scenes. Once the series really kicks in, it starts resembling Hunter x Hunter more. The series does suffer from something serious, though, and it's not direction or character deaths, it's that Horikoshi doesn't know how to fatten the chicken, so to speak. Every time a conflict arises...someone solves it. Wow. Okay, and then we move on as if it didn't matter at all. Part of this is the series being centered around a school which hinders longer, detailed plots (kids have to go to bed at night and wake up for school every morning) and another I think is the hero/quirk system's limitations. What I mean by the latter is, Hori needs to get really fucking creative with every random asshole he introduces, and the more time he spends on that, the less he spends on the story. I think he wants to be like Oda, but Oda didn't START OFF batshit crazy, it was a process.
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>>159763340
>Bleach had a stronger start,
Kek
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>>159763301
Yes, clearly every other fandom gets mad when a thread calling their manga shit is made and calls everyone who doesn't share their tastes shitposters.
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>>159763256
I disagree that Deku is an overall bad protag but I think you're right. All he had going for him before All Might actually pushed him to work for it was a goo attitude. And even then he was incredibly lucky to meet All Might altogether.
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>>159756707
learn to read
>never worked towards dream
>what is 13 series of detailed notes about heroes
>Suddenly grow balls and jump in to save someone
>Like he always did since he was little
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>>159763363
Yeah especially when people don't provide arguments as to why and there's on autist who hasn't even read the series criticizing it.
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>>159763372
>what is 13 series of detailed notes about heroes
Something that wouldn't have gotten him into a hero school.

>Like he always did since he was little
You mean years ago, before he was bullied and did nothing about it. How exactly do you justify a character either being a coward or courageous depending on whether it advances the plot or not?
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>>159760330
Im liking the new costumes, each one is better than the last and i think that's the point. at the start of the series deku is obsessed with all might and his costume reflects it. as time goes on i'm confident his costume will represent the independence he has gained from all might. and hopefully the ears will go at that point. keep in mind when deku first used his costume it was meant to be the worst of the bunch, a lot like he was when he started, his suit is a symbol for his as a hero and its improving with him.
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>>159756707
>By never training his body?
We saw with the Kirishima's flashback that all applicants for UA don't start training until months before they take the entrance exam.
>And yet in the same chapter he's a spineless faggot who bow before Bakugou, zero reason for him to suddenly grow a pair.
You're complaining about nothing now
>A dream he never worked toward
Hence why he studied every single hero available despite having no quirk?
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>>159763363

I can't tell if this is a series statement or not. Fairy tail and TLR are pretty much the only fanbases on /a/ that don't defend their series. Even bleachfags at the end got mad when people shat on their series.
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>>159763366
No, I'm sorry I hear your opinions and all but you're wrong. A good attitude wasn't "all he had going for him." He has this impulse to do what's right and does work. I can't find the logic behind disliking his character and question what traits you do find valuable.
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>>159763514
>Something that wouldn't have gotten him into a hero school.
You realize there's a test application that involves hero knowledge to get into UA right? Of course, you didn't Spee D. Reader

>How exactly do you justify a character either being a coward or courageous depending on whether it advances the plot or not?
I love how you get triggered by this character its really pathetic.
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>>159763361
I liked the early filler shit in Bleach, it was fun. I dropped BnHA right before the summer training and picked it back up a year later.
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>>159763484
>Read 100 chapters
>Drop the series since it's clearly not going to get better
>Have no interest in it anymore, don't reread it

Clearly I don't have the right to say the manga was shit, I'd have to catch up to be allowed to, but then you'd tell me "Why do you follow the serie if you say it's shit", cleverly avoiding any kind of argument. And how dare I not remember stuff perfectly, that must mean I got all my info from a quick wiki search.
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>>159763363
>Nobody is allowed to defend what they like
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>>159763672
>You realize there's a test application that involves hero knowledge to get into UA right?
I also realize there's a physical exam test.

>I love how you get triggered by this character its really pathetic.
>Avoiding the question
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>>159763514
>something that wouldn't get him into hero school
did you forgot that he's fucking quirkless? what can he do? train so he can punch the bots with his fists? yet he can go toe to toe with Bakugou in their first fight, relying on his notes alone
>years ago
is it so hard to differentiate between the drive to save people and standing up for himself? He has one but not the other at the start
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>>159763698
>Clearly I don't have the right to say the manga was shit,
Yeah you don't especially when the generally consensus says otherwise and you don't have an argument to stand by. You can dislike the series all you want just don't expect people to take you seriously
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>>159763590
>We saw with the Kirishima's flashback that all applicants for UA don't start training until months before they take the entrance exam.
You'd think that Deku would try to compensate considering he has no quirk

>You're complaining about nothing now
A character changing from being a coward to being brave in a couple hours is nothing? Weird.

>Hence why he studied every single hero available despite having no quirk?
Yes, just like how studying every athlete gets you into a sport team.
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>>159763659
>And does work
Anon, this kid is a hero otaku and devotes his himself to learning a shit ton about them, but in his quest to become a hero despite his handicap, he doesn't attempt to at least pursue excellent physical form? Did meeting All Might really need to be the thing that got him to at least work out? Did he really not expect any physical effort in the test tl become a fucking superhero? I love Deku, and his attitude is admirable, but his beginnings are kinda fucking dumb. He put no realistic effort into becoming a hero before All Might entered his life.
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>>159763746
>I also realize there's a physical exam test.
So why did you say him studying on heroes was worthless and that he didn't try at all?
>Avoiding the question
I'd rather not delve into a psyche of an individual calling the MC a faggot because he wasn't an alpha male as a child.
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I have to admit BNHA is very boring when compared to other shonen manga/anime. It has too much slice of life as well as padding. Sure a "villain" pops up ONCE a season but even then they're aren't all that epic.
Also the MC Midoriya is taking his sweet ass time learning to control his power.
I wouldn't be so negative when it comes to this but he literally does nothing for episodes and then fights/practices once and levels up.
I want to see young midoriya killing himself to perfect his power. I want episodes upon episodes of him training. I don't care if the "main plotline" advances. I want to see HIM advance and fight.
That's what this series needs. Cut the slice of life. Stop wasting so much time and get to the good stuff.
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>>159752087
You're the idiot here, a good shounen character, needs a simply yet original design that standsout and is easily recognizable.

Nobody hates narutos design for not looking like a generic ninja, it's not supposed to, that's part of what makes it so special.

The dragon ball z gee, soul society robe, luffys red jacket and shorts, gons green shorts and jacket, ashes og design etc etc.
I get that deku is supposed to look like all might originally with his costume but the artist lacks confidence and can't stick with something. It's constantly being changed or edited like ichigo's design, just gibes bad vibes all around.
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We'll know by the end of the arc if it's trash.
Comparatively Bleach was already bullshit city this many chapters in and had no character development at all (except for the fact that Ichigo lost all personality he seemingly had at the start).
I know I like this one a lot more, but it still could go massively downhill.
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>>159752161
>looking shitty means it was designed shittily
You should honestly consider suicide.
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>>159763891
>but in his quest to become a hero despite his handicap, he doesn't attempt to at least pursue excellent physical form?
He had no quirk, AM said so himself that its impossible for him to become a hero with none so getting fit wouldn't mean anything since he had no fucking quirk. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
>Did meeting All Might really need to be the thing that got him to at least work out?
No the opportunity to get a quirk did, what would working out do if you can't be a hero with no quirk?
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>>159763772
>train so he can punch the bots with his fists?
Isn't that, like, exactly what the quirkless vigilante did? Or what Tailguy did? It's been a while, but Stain's quirk was unrelated to his physical abilities and he pulled off some impossible feats with his swords, so BnHA's universe probably work on classic shonens rules of humans being stronger than irl.

>>159763787
Bullshit, I've made arguments. You can call them shit but when people asks me why I don't like Deku and I say that I dislike him because he, amongst others things, never actually worked hard toward his dream of being a hero prior to meeting All Might and being promised a powerful quirk, that's an argument. You might say it's the wrong way to take things, but it's still one.
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>>159763891
And those three statements are wrong. You chose the very flaws he initially had to overcome in order to turn his life around.

You dislike Deku because of the fact that he was a nothing to begin with and one day decided to start getting himself together out of sheer drive. Your worst offense is faulting a character for issues they already had upon introduction.

TL;DR: t. Bakugou
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>>159763891

Newsflash: Kids aren't usually good at becoming professionals. How many middle schoolers who say they want to be doctors are actively studying Biology, chemistry, etc? Not many. He was going on the mastermind path if anything until he met All Might and could have been somewhat of a nighteye knockoff
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>>159751976
I have no issue with the design being shit, yes it's flat out ugly. My issues is with the mangaka being unable to commit to a single solid design for his lead.
He should've had the solid design within the first 5 chapters, there like 100 chapters in and he's still changing it, it's just bad "marketing/characterization", i can't think of the right word but you get the idea. Deku needed a solid, original, easily recognizable design and the mangaka failed to deliver.
The fact that he doesn't have one just makes this work feel so below average besides all the other blatant flaws.
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Deku is always working out, but is never really focused on, if you pay attention you can see him working out with a dumbbell, he also mentioned in one of the more recent episodes that he does airsits during his classes.
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>>159753052
This manga can't go 5 chapters without violence/action, what are you on about?
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So far I still think it a mostly solid manga.
It is not ground breaking nor is it super creative plotwise atleast but it has nice art and character designs and has so far done nothing offensive yet.

I am however disappointed with the lack of world building 140+ chapters in and I also do not think Hori is super good with fight scenes, though the All Might vs Sensi battle was pretty top tier.

I also hope everyone in the class gets their time to shine and it doesn't end with Kirishima
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>>159763902
>So why did you say him studying on heroes was worthless and that he didn't try at all?
Cause I forgot, obviously. Since apparently the phrasing is very important to you, I'll change it :
Why did Deku purely works on theory when the thing he lacked the most was physical power, and working out would've increased greatly his chance to pass the physical exam?

>because he wasn't an alpha male as a child.
Aren't you the one you said he defended some kid from bullies in his childhood
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>>159763982
>a good shounen character, needs a simply yet original design that standsout and is easily recognizable.
You do realize that's what those idiots are arguing against right?

>Nobody hates narutos design for not looking like a generic ninja, it's not supposed to, that's part of what makes it so special.

Actually that's why they do its also isn't simple. Sure, NOW you can say its iconic because its popular but it was a huge fucking blemish on the manga.


>It's constantly being changed or edited like ichigo's design, just gibes bad vibes all around.
Wow...its almost like his suit isn't perfected yet and he's changing it as his grows while still keeping its original intent. Also you're a fucking idiot since Luffy and Naruto all changed their designs hell Luffy has a different design EVERY FUCKING ARC.
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>>159764067
>never actually worked hard toward his dream of being a hero prior to meeting All Might
Which was proven wrong. Next
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>>159761040
No one said it had to be, kid goku had a blue gi before the iconic z warrior get up, naruto from pt 1 changed as did luffy etc.
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>>159764067
>the quirkless vigilante and tailman
and the quirkless vigilante faces off against what? 20 story high robots? he's pretty much a one trick pony, capable only dealing with street thugs. Tailguy has a tail the size of his body, make of that of that what you will. Stain (and also Aizawa) also fight by relying on their quirk, Stain by drawing blood and paralyzing the opposition quickly and Aizawa by negating the enemy's quirk. Not to mention they already trained for god knows how long and yet they still have to rely on their quirk
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>>159764273
>Why did Deku purely works on theory when the thing he lacked the most was physical power
Because no matter how hard you can run or punch, that doesn't guarantee you becoming a hero.
He had no idea how to become a hero without a quirk, he just badly wanted to to the point of obsession.

Also I think you're missing the point somewhat. BNHA is never about hard work, in fact quite the opposite it's about who you are by nature. A hard working hero will job to someone if he just has a worse quirk or gets hard countered.
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>>159764070
For the record, I'm only the first poster.

I actually have more issues with Deku. Like how he decides to rescue Bakugou with his friends despite the fact that pro heroes were obviously planning something. Or how he's dumb enough to answer Mindrape's taunt despite being told not to, or how characters around him always seem to know their own quirk and their limitations less than he does, and can't come up with a way to combine them on their own.

Didn't he also try to jump out to save Bakugou when All for One was there, risking the lives of his friends, and Iida had to restrain him?

Lastly, I don't think we see him train enough on his own, besides simple muscle training, he doesn't seem to make any attempt at not blowing up his arm unless All Might or Gran Torino are right next.
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>>159764049
>AM said himself its impossible
This is before All Might miraculously stepped into his life and dangled a carrot in front of him. Deku did not realistically try beyond just being booksmart. He wants to become a hero but does not pursue something as sensible ans simple as just working out. Its kinda dumb. Reminder the physical test is fighting giant fucking robots.

>>159764070
>flaws he had to overcome
Not having a quirk seemed to be the only flaw he had. He was determined and wanted to be a hero despite his handicap but didnt do anything as smart as trying to work out until All Might showed up.

>>159764144
I'm not saying these kids need to be driven and ambitious as the sun but a kid as passionate and smart as Deku should be aware enough to maybe work out at the very least to become a quirkless hero.

Once again, I don't personally hate Deku. I really admire him. But he didn't try as hard as one would expect him to before All Might came and fixed everything.
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>shitposters pretending that people didn't have a problem with the "ninja" in the bright orange tracksuit
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>>159764267
>Hori is super good with fight scenes
I also like it is probably my favorite jump manga I am following right now, but the fights aren't that good or the fight choreography to be specific.
Even AM vs AFO wasn't actually that good when you just look at the fight itself what made it great was more the emotional weight of it more than anything.
I did think Deku vs Baku 2 was a step in the right direction.
It was easy to follow and looked pretty cool how they moved.
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>>159764503
>This is before All Might miraculously stepped into his life and dangled a carrot in front of him
AM literally told him he could not be a hero when they first met before then he was just delusional and had character tell him he couldn't do it with no quirk. You're still not listening he would not have been qualified to take the test regardless BECAUSE HE HAD NO QUIRK.
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>>159753482
>hating on best boy jeanist
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>>159762185
Yeah it's a 100 thousand times better.
Actually stakes, actual personal drama between two characters, actually choreography. Well written surprises and clever twist and turns.

The todovsdeku fight was horrendous, the choreography was bland and repetitive or nonexistent, the two had no real drama, all spliced with a generic korean soap opera story background. No surprises or creative twist and turns. All it had going for it was 20 seconds of amazing animation which was literally the "pretty colors" meme.
No real substance their, it was just flashy but besides that it was poorly written, super predictable and poorly executed up until the end.
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>>159764361
>Which was proven wrong. Next
He worked hard on the wrong thing.

It's like I tried to enter a math school and focused on the life stories of famous mathematicians. Sure, it's probably important, but if I can't do a simple equation on my own because I never bothered to apply the actual formulas I'm probably not going to last long.

>20 story high robots
Wasn't that only 1 robot amongst the dozen of normal robots?
to take your argument back at you, how the hell is "reading about heroes" going to help you against a real threat anymore than being physically fit will?

>Stain (and also Aizawa) also fight by relying on their quirk
Yeah but they're also supernaturally strongs, right? Not in the context of BnHA's universe but our own. Like in OP Zoro is able to lift a house without anything but muscle training.
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>>159762123
So why did Itachi kill all of the Uchiha again? You know the innocent people who weren't even in on betraying konoha?

Also the fight was just attack after attack with decent while Jiraiya vs Pain was actually entertaining.
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>>159764556
This. Naruto's pt1 design is a clusterfuck but in a good way since it made the series stand out, keep in mind that before Naruto ninjas were treated as jokes in Japan and manga tried to move away from the traditional ninja getups (see Flame of Recca where nobody is a traditional ninja in the sense and only in name) so Naruto came along and did away with a lot of traditional aspects while also retaining some of the classic motifs to make ninjas more militarized instead of loners and it was a huge fucking success.
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>>159764483
>Because no matter how hard you can run or punch, that doesn't guarantee you becoming a hero.
Neither do reading about heroes.

And now that I think about it, there's also the classes where the genius girl is where people create equipments for heroes, so he didn't even try hard on the theory either.
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>>159764688
>how the hell is "reading about heroes" going to help you against a real threat anymore than being physically fit will?
How the hell are you going to destroy a robot with your fists?
It's like a cripple trying to get in the NBA. He could do as many pushups as he wants, he's never going to dunk or score a point against people who are able to stand on their legs.
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>>159764703

>mfw uchiha apologists
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>>159764286
his suit doesn't need to be perfected yet, it's just bad that the writer really wanted to make a solid design for deku and just couldn't so he's constantly changing it's cosmetic elements.

also you have no idea what you're talking about with this whole naruto no looking like a ninja, you can site people being mad at anything, but the designs are far from a blemish.
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>>159764188
That's why MHA feels so fresh. "Set" outfit design from a realistic perspective are boring and unnatural. Hori uses a character's looks to show visual significance.

It's why everyone has such standout facial features and head shapes. It allows you to separate the character from what their wearing, thereby making they're current costume standout and own value as to why they wear it.

The technique saves so much time exposition wise.
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>>159750188
I really like BnHA but it's still far from kubo's greatness and trolling.
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>>159764688
>He worked hard on the wrong thing.
You do realize they test your Hero knowledge not just your strength right?
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>>159764811
I know right, I don't understand how they exists since they did everything wrong in the series and almost everything bad that happend in the series can be traced back to them.
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>>159764765
>there's also the classes where the genius girl is where people create equipments for heroes
....she has a quirk
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>>159764765
He wanted to become a hero, not support hero or management or general ed.
Also he had no idea how. You can definitely fault him for not training like a motherfucker to "somehow" make it, but again, missing the point. The reason he became a hero despite his quirklessness was because he was a natural hero and nothing else.
Maybe he doesn't deserve it (although I'd say you're in the minority here), but he was fit for it. More so than anyone else we've seen so far.
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>>159762185
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>>159764617
(You)
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>>159764771
>How the hell are you going to destroy a robot with your fists?
You have a better chance of succeeding that way.

Especially since the people that succeeeded the tests were, amongst others :
> A guy with a tail
> A guy who can talk to animals (what did he do, send a bee to sting a robot?)
> A girl with really big hands
> An invisible girl (tho I dunno her quirk, so maybe it's actually OP)

Did Deku actually intended to take the exam at the start of the serie, before he had OfA? If he did, then becoming fit was at least a step in the right direction
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>>159764703
Obito killed the innocent ones
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>>159764556
no one said that. people have an issue with everything, don't pretend like naruto not looking like sterotypical ninjas was a bad thing, it was probably one of the best artistic choses they could have made for the series.

The designs where original and easily stood out, naruto changed the whole perception how ninjas can look and behave. It's a big part of what makes it such an iconic series.
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>>159764575
I can't remember if the quirkless are completely barred from the exam, but if they are then I concede. If he couldn't participate then him trying at all would make no sense and you would be right. But if he still could despite being quirkless, he could have tried more than he did before All Might shit all over him.
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>>159764822
>it's just bad that the writer really wanted to make a solid design for deku and just couldn't so he's constantly changing it's cosmetic elements.
He's wearing the suit because his mom made it for him you fucking dumbass. The upgrades come from sending the suit through the development department and adding his own input into it. Its a fucking story element that Izuku's outfit is plain but he's changing it as he goes along

>you can site people being mad at anything, but the designs are far from a blemish.
Nope, there are legit a lot of people who did not like Naruto's design. You're fucking delusional if you think Naruto and Luffy's design were iconic from out the gate.
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>>159764811
>>159764911
Don't make me go get Hashirama.
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>>159764930
The entire scene gave me goosebumps
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>>159765016
>I can't remember if the quirkless are completely barred from the exam
If the 1# hero says that you can't become a hero with no quirk then that's pretty much the limit. We never see quirkless people in UA for a reason.
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>>159765128
t.Deku's mom
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>>159764688
>reading about heroes
they don't and I never said studying about them ever will . He was quirkless, he was never going to make it in be it relying on his strength or his wit. But relying on his wit does have more weight, recall how he was able to briefly stand toe to toe with Bakugou while relying on analyzing alone
>Stain and Aizawa
what good does it do comparing their feats with our own's? I think it's pretty clear that in-universe, pure physical prowess alone can only go so far. Aizawa and Stain specializes on 1v1 hit-and-run tactics while relying on their quirk. Strip them of their quirks and they're not much better than Knuckle
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>>159764948
> A guy with a tail
> A guy who can talk to animals (what did he do, send a bee to sting a robot?)
> A girl with really big hands
> An invisible girl (tho I dunno her quirk, so maybe it's actually OP)
As you said we don't know their quirks.
Quirks are in essence superhuman, so they can do things that no other human would even with insane training.
Imagine Tyson going up against a steel robot three times his size. What the fuck can he do?
No amount of training can make you superhuman, by definition.
But besides the point, Deku only wanted to take the exam because he wanted to be a hero, not because he thought he would succeed. It's almost like you overlooked the entire point of the first few chapters.
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>>159764834
Oh, fuck off.

>That's why MHA feels so fresh
No it doesn't. Do you honestly think that anyone will talk about BnHA and say "Oh I love it, it's like the third time the MC change look, it's so fresh!"

>Hori uses a character's looks to show visual significance.
What the fuck is "visual significance" and how the hell can it be shown by anything other but look?

>thereby making they're current costume standout and own value as to why they wear it.
I don't understand your sentence, but having your characters recognizable even if they switch costume is nice.

>The technique saves so much time exposition wise.
How? The author have done little pages at the end of chapter to show off the costumes and how their work, like how Uravity's bracers reduced nausea. It's a nice touch, but how does it reduce exposition? How do you figure out stuff based on costumes, apart from the absolutely obvious stuff like Black Hole being in a sealed suit because of his quirk never stopping.
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>>159764930

I don't watch the anime but this makes Todroki look overpowered as shit. Like absurdly overpowered and 2-3 tiers above everything except one for all
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>>159764912
>....she has a quirk
She can zoom on something.

It's useful, but it's not what made her design all her tech.
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WITHOUT YOU EVEN UNDERSTANDING THE FLOW OF TIME

SORROW WILL REPEAT ITSELF
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>>159765224
You're exactly right. Todoroki is meant to be above and beyond all others in his class power-wise.
Somehow you think that's a problem?
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>>159765001
>don't pretend like naruto not looking like sterotypical ninjas was a bad thing, it was probably one of the best artistic choses they could have made for the series.
That has more to do with ninjas being seen as lame in Japan back then than the design aesthetics being good. Ninku was a success largely because it was a ninja manga that had no of the tropes of traditional ninja
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>>159764930
>Those rectangular ice projections.
Man I'm getting kinda tired of stuff like ice and rocks looking like cubes when they crack apart and such in anime. It's so dumb looking.
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>>159765278
Naruto's aesthetics were notoriously trashy, but that wasn't why people read/watched it anyway.
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>>159764915
>Also he had no idea how.
But according to a guy earlier guys who want to get into UA start training physically for it, so I don't think the exam having a physical part was kept a secret, right?

He deserves to be a hero purely because all the other heroes are either retards compared to him or turn into his sidekick.
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>>159765244
Maybe she didn't want to be an on the prowl hero and wanted to use her intellect as support but she wouldnt have gotten into UA without a quirk.
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>>159764834
the hori guy is just a good artist period. His inability to commit to a design for his lead is just a blemish. For the most part all the other characters have set designs, if i'm honest they are all pretty ugly/uncool for the most part, but the fact that he's still trying to find that design for deku just reminds of rock bottom bleach.

All the other characters I mention always where something different from time to time as well, i'm talking about dekus main battle suit with the constant cosmetic changes, like in your picture for example he suddenly has shoulder pads and shit like that, it's just blah
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>>159763340
Bleach has Aizen tho
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>>159765325
it makes sense here because it's like crystals forming
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BNHA is good but it's getting 2deep4me with Suneater, Mirio, Mina and Kirishima as stand ins for a twist I can't even really fully comprehend.
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>>159765272

Bakugou's quirk is supposed to be on par with Todoroki's, but that clip blows anything Baku has done out of the water
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>>159765421
>Bakugou's quirk is supposed to be on par with Todoroki's
[citation needed]
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>>159765337
>Naruto's aesthetics were notoriously trashy
The trashiness is what gave it a unique feel compared to other Jump manga back the which is a shame that it got super clean as it went on
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>>159765404
>2deep4me
What do you mean?
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>>159765479
Bakugou can fire off those blasts willy nilly. Sure he SAID he can't, but we saw him spam them all throughout the tournament!
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>>159765377
Aizen is more a meme than a good villain.
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>>159765421
>Bakugou's quirk is supposed to be on par with Todoroki'
LOL
O
L
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>>159764911
as a matter of fact, everything wrong after kaguya was because of the uchihas, EVERYTHING.
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>>159765421
>Bakugou's quirk is supposed to be on par with Todoroki's
t. Bakufujo
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>>159765325
>the cubes
>THE cubes
>he doesn't know
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>>159765350
You're missing the point entirely.
I'm guessing you either completely disliked or misinterpreted the manga or just didn't read it well enough.
Either way just because Deku is born a hero doesn't mean that's an asspull or bullshit or anything else, people are born different even in non-anime reality.
I don't even get what you're trying to rationalize here.
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>>159765178
>recall how he was able to briefly stand toe to toe with Bakugou while relying on analyzing alone
Wasn't that because he knew Bakugou, specifically? He didn't put similar level of thoughts into later fights.

>Aizawa and Stain specializes on 1v1 hit-and-run tactics while relying on their quirk
Doesn't Aizawa specialize on crowd control, actually?

>>159765189
>As you said we don't know their quirks.
No, I said that I don't know her quirk. Please quote me correctly

>Quirks are in essence superhuman, so they can do things that no other human would even with insane training.
Do you mean that any quirk, regardless of their effect, would improve physical power? Where is it said?

>Imagine Tyson going up against a steel robot three times his size. What the fuck can he do?
I'm pretty sure Tyson could beat a teen with a tail, or a teenage girl with big hands. Or some guy who can talk to animals (and who most likely didn't have access to a rhino or anything big when he faced off against the robots in the exam).

>Deku only wanted to take the exam because he wanted to be a hero, not because he thought he would succeed
This make no sense.

If he wanted to be a hero he'd want to succeed the exam, so he would at least try.
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>>159764571
Even the author acknowledges that he is weak in this aspect, so much that he was anxious to see how it would be in the anime.
>I did think Deku vs Baku 2 was a step in the right direction. It was easy to follow and looked pretty cool how they moved.
Yeah. It was a cool fight.
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I agree, the way Horikoshi is awkwardly shoving development for Kirishima in this arc is very reminiscent of Naruto.
It's really starting to feel like Horikoshi is just making up character's backstories as he goes along instead of defining from the start along with their design.
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>>159765088
Geez you're retarded, the mangaka writes all this shit, 90% of these "developments" are just coesmetic changes that logically don't actually do anything.
White shoulder pads, slightly changing the length of the gloves, black lining, removing the mask, slightly changing the smile shit, etc etc.

He can just write whatever excuse he needs to slightly change how the suit looks cosmetically.

Never claimed they where iconic out that get, oda and kishi, unlike hori stayed with their own original gut feeling, and created solid designs that people would come to love, kishi specifically broke conventions about how ninjas should look and act upon making genuinely original and unique designs for ninjas
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>>159765360
>she wouldnt have gotten into UA without a quirk.
Source? I mean, it's just a zooming mode. You can do almost the same thing with a pair of goggles.
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>>159765404
The third years are supposed to show the gap between Deku and his classmates to what they are working to become. They have incredible utilization of their own quirks and the makings to hold their own very well against villains. Suneater solo'd three enemies while Kirishima could only make himself a human shield.
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>>159765500
I mean I know Suneater and Mirio, Kirishima and Mina's situations are supposed to mirror Ochako and Izuku's situation, but I can't tell what's literal and what's an analog anymore.

I have a pretty strong feeling that Izuku's "Conflicted mind" is basically the vessel(Probably Ochako) of One for All and the user of One for All(Probably Izuku) being at odds with each other, but it seems like the manga is going out of its way to NOT focus on Ochako or Izuku, which makes the Eri retrival arc seem like an unfocused mess even though I know the thematics are building up to a big revelation of some kind.

Like I like Mina, I like Kirishima, don't get me wrong, but the tempo right now is completely out of wack
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>>159765507
Bakugou is Michael Bay as an anime character, of course it's going to look flashy.
But his quirk is limited. He can produce explosive sweat and make it explode, that's it as far as we know. He's just at a much higher level skill-wise compared to everyone else.
Read the fight between Deku and him again to understand.
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>>159765252
>search lyrics
>a CCS fanfic on da

Care to redpill me on this?
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>>159765597
aizawa can only do one person at a time. he could fight a crowd like during the first villain attack but he was having a really hard time doing it
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>>159765597
>Do you mean that any quirk, regardless of their effect, would improve physical power?
No, I mean that you'd be able to do things no normal human would.
>I'm pretty sure Tyson could beat a teen with a tail, or a teenage girl with big hands.
Besides the fact we don't know about either of their quirk well enough, Tyson is not a superhero and could never be.
>If he wanted to be a hero he'd want to succeed the exam, so he would at least try.
If someone told you you'd be taking a flying exam in a month would you start flapping about your arms about all day like a retard?
Does that make sense?
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>>159765597
>Bakugou
yes and no. He know Bakugou's habits thus why he could counter his first strike perfectly. But he still relies on his notes afterwards. Matter of fact, all his growth has been from copying and learning from others, Full Cowl from Baku and Gran, Shoot Style from Iida
>Aizawa
no, Izu said that fighting prolonged battle against a huge number of enemies is disadvantegous for him and he can't keep it up for long
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>>159765651
how is ochako the vessel of one for all? i'm having a really hard time understanding what you're trying to say
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>>159765337
You make no sense, "trashy" is a compeltely subjective term and an inherently negative adjective, people wouldn't be attracted to a battle manga for having "trashy" designs. People who perceived the designs as trash where turned off by naruto, everyone else who liked it and made the series iconic, liked the creative approach.
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>>159765571
Alright, let's just state facts

>Deku wanted to be accepted into a hero school
Right?
>Being accepted into a hero school in a hero class to become a pro hero means passing an exam
Right?
>This exam has a part that is dependant on physical skills
Right?
>Deku wanted to become a hero, and thus wanted to succeed at this exam
Right?
>Deku didn't train to increase his chance of passing the exam even though his lack of quirk already ensured that part would likely be more difficult for him than most
Right?

That's just that, my point is that Deku claims that he want to be a hero and yet doesn't put work into the areas he most needs to work on.
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>>159765799
Autist-kun is crazy and stupid. just ignore him.
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>>159765651
>mean I know Suneater and Mirio, Kirishima and Mina's situations are supposed to mirror Ochako and Izuku's situation, but I can't tell what's literal and what's an analog anymore.
>I have a pretty strong feeling that Izuku's "Conflicted mind" is basically the vessel(Probably Ochako) of One for All and the user of One for All(Probably Izuku) being at odds with each other, but it seems like the manga is going out of its way to NOT focus on Ochako or Izuku, which makes the Eri retrival arc seem like an unfocused mess even though I know the thematics are building up to a big revelation of some kind.
I think you are just overthinking this I can make no sense of what you are trying to say.
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I just watch it to see what cool powers will be introduced
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>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random

Ah shit nigga, looks like you get a quirk! The hell is it?
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>>159752841
>since All Might lived
Which was the entire point. In other shounen, the mentor would die fighting the big bad while the protag watches helpless. The aftermath would be the protag overcoming grief and begin attaining power to fight the big bad. But now Shigi is the one who'll overcome it.


Would it be cool if All Might died while standing tall with one hand in the air with whole Japan watching? Of course. But it would also be something most of us have seen before.
All Might will die, you'll see.
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>>159765871
That is allright too, I thought amajiki has the coolest power to date.
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>>159765912
Fuck off
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>>159765815
Here's a thought: if Deku thought he could pass the exam by training physically he would have. He obviously didn't.
When he thought he could do so (after being the successor of OfA) he did.
See how that makes sense now?
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>>159765912
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Will_Breaking
mind break, the power
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>>159765984
That's dumb do you see how muscular superheroes are. He had to have known training his body was important.
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>>159765984
there's also a general admission that's not in the hero department
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>>159765949
What would you regularly eat of you had this power? I'd go with crab or any animal that helps armor me.
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>>159765758
>No, I mean that you'd be able to do things no normal human would.
Ok, I thought you said that anyone with a quirk was naturally physically stronger than a quirkless human.

>Besides the fact we don't know about either of their quirk well enough, Tyson is not a superhero and could never be.
That's mean for Tyson.

>If someone told you you'd be taking a flying exam in a month would you start flapping about your arms about all day like a retard?
This is a false comparison. We're not talking about something that is literally impossible to do with simple humans skills, but somehow you keep bringing it back to that.
Aizawa became a hero. Stain entered hero school for a time (or if he didn't, he clearly has the level to be a hero considering he beats them up). Neither of them can do shit to a robot with their quirk alone. Physical training IS important and would've increased Deku's chance greatly if he went quirkless, this is completely obvious, if you put a quadriplegic dwarf and a muscular man against a robot, one would do better than the other.

You are driving this argument in circle, this isn't about how Deku would've failed the exam, because I doubt it's the same every year so no one knew it had robots, this is about how he could've prepared for it better than he planned to. You can say that it was impossible to begin with but Deku still wanted to try and still did nothing about it.
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>>159766046
But does it make sense?
It doesn't matter what the perfect MC would do, the only thing that matters is if it makes sense in Deku's mind.
It does. So there's no problem here except maybe you'd prefer if he had trained for personal preference.

It's a pretty major plot point that Deku hit the good luck jackpot.
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>>159765835
>>159765850
Well for sure I'm missing out on an important detail regarding the class as a whole, and what exactly UA is.

But the villains have been getting more... hero-like as of recently, and the heroes have been getting more dubious.

Ah well, I'll wait it out. Maybe read Shokugeki no Souma, featuring the secret sauce from hell
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>>159765624
I'm gonna jump in into this costume thing
No, his costume changes has valid reasons, it evolves as how the MC uses his power evolves. Also other students' costume gradually change. If you don't like the costume changing every several chapters and prefer the usual trope of Timeskip and Costume Change, sure whatever, that's your taste and opinion. I myself prefer the organic evolution of costumes. And don't act like it's not iconic. The base costume didn't change
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>>159765984
>if Deku thought he could pass the exam by training physically he would have. He obviously didn't.
This is exactly why I dislike him.

If he wanted to become a hero he would try to pass the exam, and a part of that would be to train. He didn't.
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>>159763340
The point about it being held back by revolving around school is very true.

At the end of the day, regardless of what is happening in the world and the characters all around it, it's about a bunch of kids and their superhero school. Everything becomes so confined by that. That's not necessarily bad and it can very well be fine for what it is but it makes it difficult to make something greater out of it.
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>>159766203
Not every character is Naruto or Ippo.
That's a good thing imo.
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>>159766046
>>159766203
Where are you guys getting that he didn't train from?

Oh, you mean BEFORE he received OfA. Sure, sure.
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>>159750613
>Popular shounen manga are controlled entirely by their editors. The mangaka doesn't have the luxury of creative control or agency
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>>159766200
>No, his costume changes has valid reasons, it evolves as how the MC uses his power evolves
>It goes from complete shit to completely forgettable

It's not iconic.

Go to a normie who barely read manga and show him Naruto's costume. He will recognize it. Show him Sengoku's. he will recognize it. Show him the strawhat, he will recognize it.

Guess what will happen if you show him Deku's costume
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>>159766189
Autist-kun just put your trip back on so I can filter you you fucking moron.

>>159766155
The only problem is he never worked towards that goal. Had he been basically incapable of working out I could buy that but he was lazy.
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>>159766085
i'd eat a gun
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>tfw i unironically like Deku

Dunno why, i mean, i know he's boring, plain, with less willpower than people like Guts, Naruto, etc. and a weenie like Peter Parker,

maybe because he's more relatable?
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>>159766347
How bout you go fuck yourself?
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>>159766347
You don't like the MC for personal reasons.
That's fine but it doesn't make it bad writing.
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>>159766371
You like him because he's naturally a good person.
It's normal to like good people.
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>>159766396
More to the point, Deku becomes hard working after being "lazy."

That one butthurt anon projects way too much
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>>159766396
I like the MC. But he should have have been strong for a teenager and bakugo should have had a strength quirk to emphasis the limits of human strength.
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>>159765636
Her quirk is like you said useless so she made up for her because she's a brilliant inventor but she still needed a quirk to even be accepted to begin with regardless of his intellect
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>>159765912
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Bolt_Projection
Just imagine all the kikes I could gas.
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>>159766479
She could be an excellent sniper with her quirk

Say, what was the name of the hero in the MHA oneshot?
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>>159765815
>Deku didn't train to increase his chance of passing the exam even though his lack of quirk already ensured that part would likely be more difficult for him than most
He would not been able to do so without a quirk why do you constantly forget this? Its fairly simple.


No quirk = No exam
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is the furthest the mangaka willing to go in terms of killing people just making them unable to do hero work like Ingenium? What would have been the difference if he was actually killed?
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>>159766057
But you still need a quirk to take the exam to begin with.
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>>159752841
>All for One finds a way to destroy All Might's reputation
>Only then does he kill All Might.
>All Might dies while loosing everything.

Make it happen.
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>>159760043
they are not heroes, they are vigilantes
In the first chapter they even say that the crimes they handle are more obscure that get overlooked by Heroes that are looking for bigger fish to fry and go against villains that have a higher destructive potential
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>>159766582
If nobody dies by the end of this arc then the only character that will is All Might.
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>>159766576
No you can still take the exam. Nothing stopped it speed reader. All Might just said no one without a quirk has gotten in. Which is ridiculous because a strong person can do more than half the assholes with practically shitty quirks.

Which is the only real flaw with BnHA.
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>>159766123
>>159766203

>You can say that it was impossible to begin with but Deku still wanted to try and still did nothing about it.
What the fuck he would be training for if he couldn't take the exam to begin with
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>>159761518
at least try harder to bait
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>>159766315
>It's not iconic.
Because you say so?
>Go to a normie who barely read manga and show him a costume from a series that's been running for 17 years versus a series that's been running for 3 years

Are you done being fucking stupid now?
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>>159765912
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Elemental_Infusion
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>>159764600
I don't hate him, but him surviving a direct attack from All For One, one of the strongest villains, if not then the most dangerous villain in Japan, just felt far-fetched.
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>>159765194
>No it doesn't. Do you honestly think that anyone will talk about BnHA and say "Oh I love it, it's like the third time the MC change look, it's so fresh!"
I'm not trying to say people are going to preach about it, but compared to other shonen it feels fresh while reading IMO.

>What the fuck is "visual significance" and how the hell can it be shown by anything other but look?
By visual significance, I literally mean it expresses significant details visually. That means mainly two things:
A. The suit pops out and draws attention to itself and away from the already alarming head design, making itself significant.
B. In doing so, the clothes signify to the reader that it has some level of importance and meaning tied to the character that is expressed constantly just by being worn. It's all tied together by the fact that Hori actually does things with this.

>I don't understand your sentence, but having your characters recognizable even if they switch costume is nice.
See above, and it's good you recognize how effective that is.

>How? The author have done little pages at the end of chapter to show off the costumes and how their work, like how Uravity's bracers reduced nausea. It's a nice touch, but how does it reduce exposition? How do you figure out stuff based on costumes, apart from the absolutely obvious stuff like Black Hole being in a sealed suit because of his quirk never stopping.
Think about it like this. How many times in a shonen or other genre have you seen time wasted and cluttered by a character explaining how their power works and the backstory that ties into that? That's usually done to feed information to the reader.
Hori often makes a character's costume benefit/altar the wearer's power in some significant way, and instead of having the character talk about it aloud for an extended period of time for the reader, all of that information and context is already there, almost as a visual aid. I think that's really nice.
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>>159766681
>No you can still take the exam
Nope. Nothing in the manga states that people with no quirks can take the exam in fact all throughout the first two chapters it was stated that he couldn't because he had no quirk and there were no quirkless people taking the exam. You lost this argument
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>>159765912
>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Army_Creation
I am fucking Hitler.
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>>159765224
>but this makes Todroki look overpowered as shit

That's because he is
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I can't really say anything. I already like it, so i only see the good and feel the anticipation for each week.
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>>159766681
http://bokunoheroacademia.wikia.com/wiki/Entrance_Exam

>The exam consists of a written and a practical test, the latter being the more important of the two. During the practical exam, candidates have to use their Quirks in order to destroy robotic villains and earn points. The more points one earn, the higher their chance is to get accepted in the school.
In the exam, candidates are not allowed to fight another candidate. Doing so results in disqualification.

>Besides destroying villains, the judges also give points using other criteria (for example, rescuing another candidate).

>Have to use their Quirks
>Have to use their Quirks
>Have to use their Quirks
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>>159766847
Uh no nothing precludes it. Literally nothing says it. They said they didn't know if he had a quirk till he used it.
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>>159766927
you know the wiki is not an official source at all right?
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>>159766969
see
>>159766927
You're required to use your quirk in the exam. Stop posting

>>159766987
All that shit is in the fucking manga dumbfuck
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>>159750536
Not enough drama for it to be Nardo.
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>>159767038
>Wiki
>Wiki
>Wiki
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>>159766315
>normies recognizing One Piece

what world do you live in, is it that well known now?
You make it sound like Naruto or Dragon Ball which almost everyone in the United States know
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>>159766987
>>159766969
>>159767072
You can shut up now
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>>159766315
>Show him Sengoku's. he will recognize it. Show him the strawhat, he will recognize it.
Yeah...no
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>>159765150
Aoyama
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>>159766315
Who is sengoku?
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>>159767223
I think he meant Son Goku
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>>159767129
Where's the part that says you can't take the test without a quirk?
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Tfw this show only gets good threads when someone is shitting on it
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>>159767248
>Using each of your individual quirks
> your individual quirks
>QUIRKS
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>>159767233
Oh that makes more sense.
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>>159767269
Maybe we get good threads again when things happen in the manga.
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>>159767269
It usually gets good threads after a new chapter or episode.
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>>159767314
So you have no proof okay.
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>>159767248
Why would a test instructs you to use your quirk as a requirement to past if they allowed quirk-less applicants
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