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This is the best girl

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This is the best girl
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>this is the best girl
>posts asuka
what the fuck
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>>159744210
>Mfw this argument has been going on for 20 fucking years
Will it ever end?
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>>159744325
Sadly no. You will die before they give up
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>>159744325
Thats your face???? I live you
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>>159744210
bumping to remind newfigs what a best girl looks like
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>>159744210
Why do I want to cuddle with Asuka more than any other 2D girl?

She's not even my waifu.
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>>159746110
because deep in your hot you recognize her as the best girl.
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>>159744325
Hopefully never.
I don't want to stop hateloveing Reifags.
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>>159744210
Nothing better
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You are a man of good taste I see
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>>159748206
fuck, would save if she had a fucking nose. That shit bothers me so much and I hate how so many artists do it
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>>159744210
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>>159748325
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>>159748372
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>half german half jap
it's like they want to make a worst girl no matter what
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>>159748462
she's 1/4 japanese you fucking pleb
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>>159748410
>This is the worst...
>The forecast didn't say it was going to rain today

>Hah...

>Hey, second
>You don't have an umbrella with you?

>Ugh, you were still here?
>That's the first thing you say when you see me? That's not very nice.

>If you're okay with it, I'll let you under my umbrella

>I-I'm not okay with it. I'll just wait for the rain to stop...
>It's not going to stop. Are you planning to stay at school the entire night?
>...

>Come on
>Wait-!
>Wait a minute! I get it already, just stop pulling me

>It can't be helped, I'll allow you to let me under.

>Haha, You're really not honest with yourself

>Shut up

>You'll get wet if you don't come closer, you know
>No way! Let go of me, pervert!
>But won't it be bad if your uniform gets wet?

>Do you do this sort of thing with others, too?

>...

>Are you jealous?
>I'm not.
>Because I don't.
>I told you I don't care...
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>>159744210
>This is the best girl

Pls anon
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>>159748325
>>159748372
>>159748410
autism
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>>159744210

>liking girls
what a fag
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>>159748821
DELETE this right now obnoxious Asukafag
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>>159749188
>Oh?
>What is that?

>Someone gave it to me
>Who?
>Not sure...some girl I don't know

>Oh...
>Well I guess you are pretty good looking
>?

>I know, I'll give it you. Even though I received it, I don't know what to do with it
>What?!

>Are you stupid? Think about how the girl who gave it you would feel!
>What do you mean?

>Isn't it obvious?
>It means she likes you

>Not sure what she sees in a guy like you, though

>Hey, aren't you going to give me one?
>On second thought, give it to me after all
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>>159749774
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>>159746110
why the heck would you want to cuddle with a bitchy slut?

does everyone just fall in love with fanart of asuka instead of canon asuka?
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>>159750007
>What?
>Even though you're a boy, your skin is so smooth. It pisses me off.

>Really? But your skin is smooth, too
>Especially here
>It's soft-

>Stop screwing around, you pervert!
>What did I do!?
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>>159750020
>Stupid!
>Stupid!
>Stupid!
>Misato is so stupid! She thinks just because she sends me an apology that I'll forgive her so easily...

>Are you really staying over for the night?
>What if I am?! I'm not going home, that's for sure!

>I don't really mind, but
>If you don't at least tell her where you are, she's going to worry

>Who cares, she can worry all she likes
>I'm going to sleep, so turn off the lights!
>Alright, alright

>Can you move over a bit?

>Huh!? You go sleep on the floor!
>What!?
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>>159750049
>Second, have some candy
>Oh, thank you

>Want some chocolate?

>Potato chips

>Your face is starting to piss me off for some reason
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>>159748763
has become an epidemic
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>>159749817
.w-well i-if it's with you A-Asuka..
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>>159750899
>Haah...I get it...already...quit it...

>.....sorry
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>>159750874
>But this is my room

>W-What are you...

>Then
>I'll just make you move for me

>Huh...Kyaaa--!!

>Ahahahaha- No...wait...stop...stop already...ahahaha...

>Surrendering already? You've got no willpower
>Wait...
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>>159750844
>I'm going to annihilate that idiot...
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>people still trying to make Kaworu x Asuka a thing
Rei x Kaworu is not only the most logical pairing, they even end up sharing the same body at the end plus they even have the soul's of Angels.

Plus leaving Shinji stuck with Rei would cause some genetic issues.
>>159744210
Well yeah, that's a given.
But if you don't want to pick up injured Rei and carry her to the hospital and put fresh bandages on her, then you are a faggot.

Carrying Asuka home from sitting in the bathtub in the destroyed part of the city would best tho.
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>>159751486
Kaworu doesn't like toilets.
He knows Asuka is best girl.
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>tfw no kinky sex with Asuka in a e s t h e t i c Hugo Boss designed uniforms.
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>>159751520
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>>159748325
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>>159749188

>spamming asuka thread with shitty art of her and fujoshit boy
Can kaworufags try not being shitposters?
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>>159752054
But no one posted art of Asuka with Shinji.
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>>159750939
>Hey, you!

>Hey, second.
>Today, I brought you your favorite-
>I don't need it.

>Huh?
>Why?
>You always look so happy eating them
>S-Shut up!! It's none of your business!

>Why do keep giving me sweets, in the first place?

>Because of you, I've gained weight-...
>...uh, I mean...

>A-Anyway!
>From now on you're prohibited from giving me sweets and stuff!
>Understood?

>Shinji-kun...

>You tricked me, didn't you!?
>You said if I give her sweets we'll become closer!
>W-Well, I did but...wasn't it going well between you two in the beginning?

>I can't predict Asuka's fickle temper...

>Lilin are such incomprehensible creatures...
>Er...I don't want to hear that from you, Nagisa
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>>159750134
Asuka cannot fight cuddles.

You can cuddle the bitchiness and bratiness out of her.
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>>159754544
This is why Kaworu is perfect for her
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>>159754544
>>159754582

"S-stop cuddling me, I don't need...cuddles..."

"S-stop it...s-stop...cuddling...and...and snuggling...please..."

"Uhmm...Ah...ok, j-just this once..."
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>>159744210
>Who is Yui
>Who is Shinji
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>>159744325
It's ostensibly been over for years, but reifags just won't let it go.
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>>159744210
I just finished the end of evangelion. What the fuck actually happened? I feel like all the christian symbolism is supposed to convey a lot of the meanings behind the super-being that Rei became once she merged, but I am at a loss.

The thing I got was that Shinji becomes happy by forming relationships, so his dream is this world without mental boundaries where he is connected with everyone. His introverted character due to the events in his life have crippled his ability/willingness to form relationships, therefore depriving him of such connections and happiness, making him miserable and ready to give up on life. But he doesn't give up on life, as the dialogue in the surreal sequence reveals, because he hasn't exhausted his chance at happiness and goes looking for it every time he gives up, because he hasn't experienced everything there is to experience. I'm not sure why he rejected this fantasy, however, considering that by his standards it's pure happiness. I might have to rewatch that.

Then the monologue about how the Eva will always exist and why it was created by man reveals the author's conviction that humanity strives to achieve as much as possible because it wants to leave a mark on the universe? Proof of existence? Or not?

Then Earth is destroyed somehow, and then why is Asuka alive, let alone lying next to him? Did Seele succeed? What was Seele's plan again? Why?

Is everything actually this vague or am I just fucking retarded? Thanks.
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>>159755724
>meanings
I quit reading right there.
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>>159755314
>you will never rub Asuka's tears out of her eyes as she wakes up from a nightmare about her mother and scoop her into your arms and rock her back to sleep as you comfort her over and over again that she is needed and you will never stop loving her
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>>159756138
Help me out man, I'm new to this and fairly new to anime in general, I don't know the memes nor do I possess the collective /a/ knowledge that has built up over time behind every anime. What do you mean?
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>>159753307
>The incident that led to the destruction of half of the world's population.
>We call this Second Impact...

>What...?

>Nothing

>Ugh,
>Don't just touch me so casually

>Settle down, over there
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>>159755724
what does it mean to you, anon?
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>>159756425
What does that matter? The creator obviously had something in his head when he was devising all these different fucked-in-the-head characters and christian symbolisms and plots about creation, death, rebirth. I can't think about what it "means" for me if I haven't figured out what actually happened first or what the creator wants to imply happened in this vague sequence of events. I have to figure it out.
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>>159756227
>>159756227
>I feel like all the christian symbolism is supposed to convey a lot of the meanings behind the super-being that Rei became once she merged, but I am at a loss.
It's not. The mythology of NGE is unrelated to Christianity outside of names and superficial concepts like the Chamber of Guf.
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>>159756593
Indeed he probably did.

What happened was pretty straightforward, you saw it. So what does it mean?

>>159756662
Not exactly.
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>>159756691
>Not exactly
What do you mean? The Bible doesn't tell you humanity comes from a giant seed of life created by an ancient race shipped to Earth.
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>>159752850
Too hard for you I see.
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>>159744210
ok, so?
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>>159756752
No, but the Talmud and the dead seas scrolls and other jewish mythology tells you about the fate of Lilith, and how she was the wife of Adam before she abandoned the Garden and coupled herself with the archangel Samael. That same archangel was used in the video game Silent Hill as the final boss if I remember correctly.

And both works had plots about stealing children, didn't they? Something Lilith is also known for.

Don't give up on the truth so easily.
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>>159756662
So why was it included? Just because it looked and sounded mystical?

>>159756691
I guess you're right, it's all about the meaning, but my point is that it feels like there is a buttload of explanations missing. The feeling I get when I watch an anime that is an adaptation from the manga, and after I'm done I have to explore all the lore and original material behind everything to get proper explanation. But here there's nothing. What did the author mean by all this? Or even how did he want us to interpret his material, the ending specifically?
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>>159756921
>No, but the Talmud and the dead seas scrolls and other jewish mythology tells you about the fate of Lilith, and how she was the wife of Adam before she abandoned the Garden and coupled herself with the archangel Samael. That same archangel was used in the video game Silent Hill as the final boss if I remember correctly.
So basically, names and superficial concepts, like I said. I know Lilith was the first woman and Adam the first man which is why their names are given to the givers of life, but you don't need to know either Jewish or Christian mythology to either understand or enjoy NGE.
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>>159750134
>slut
Trump W R O N G . P N G

>>159754544
this
>>159754582
Stop trying to steal Rei's rightful man away from her
>>159755314
needs more her saying pervert and her punching (lightly though)

>>159755724
>I feel like all the christian symbolism
they just used it since it looked cool (anno actually said this) but it doesn't mean you can't see meaning in it.
theres some video on youtube called evangelion in 7 minutes or something that explains it

I'd explain the seele and shit but I am trying to clean my closet since it's overrun by surplus shit right now so ill do it later if the thread is still up

btw Seele = Elders of zion anno the absolute madman
>>159756225
>more kaworu
delet
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>>159757147
Asuka like chads, get over it.
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>>159757011
It's a puzzle, anon, but one that is better worked out for yourself, don't you think? What good does it do for me to tell you about, oh say, did you notice that Rei could only assume the form of the dead to lure them into instrumentality? She appeared as Misato, Ritsuko, Kaji, Yui, and maybe a few more I can't recall..

At any rate. There was another dead character, wasn't there?

Ah maybe I should just tell you, not everyone can put in the effort. I've often hoped someone had autistically analyzed Twin Peaks like I have Evangelion, but no person has as far as I know. And I don't care enough to throw myself into that show's lore.

>>159757132
You don't even need to know the japanese language to understand evangelion but it does improve your appreciate and insight into precisely what is occurring.
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>>159757229
>implying Kawrou would be interested in a hot head like asuka, instead of someone soft and sensitive like Rei (or Shinji if you are into that faggy stuff)
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>>159757147
Yeah I'd appreciate a Seele explanation if you could.

Regarding the christian symbolism, I guess if the creator just included it for the cool factor, all interpretation is left to the viewer, thanks for the clarification,

>>159757273
Basically I just want to know if there is a "canon" interpretation of these things that I just missed. Is it all intentionally left up to the viewer to interpret? I can do that myself, but I want to know if there is a "true" meaning that went over my head. Like what is the author implying by showing that Rei is only capable of presenting as the dead?
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>>159757434
Kaworu is interested in lilin first and foremost.
He'd want a girl who'd always keep him interested, and who better to do that than someone with an unpredictable mood and personality like Asuka?
Plus she has a bunch of emotional problems and trauma that he could help her through.
She's perfect for him.
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>>159757445
The true meaning was revealed in the ending of the show. It's why I prefer that one. None of it mattered, not really. It didn't matter what the kooky secret club was up to or where the angels came from, and they tried to show you that. The reason you cared and kept watching was to see Shinji, the character solve his problems. It could have been about battling washing machines for all the difference it made. The rest is just trivia.

As for the trivia, you must decide for yourself. Rei can appear only as the dead, it seems, and she need to destroy your A.T. field to take you into instrumentality. Manipulating your emotions is how this is done. For guitar guy, she used fear to slip into his heart. For glasses and lesbo, she used love to break their walls. For Gendo, it was uh, regret or something, but they didn't take him into instrumentality anyway so whatever.

And for Shinji? It was hate, with Rei posing as Asuka to get him to strangle "Asuka" and that's right when the music plays and the pilot's ego barrier can't take much more of "this". Remember, Asuka died too.

Or, maybe that's not what happened. What do you think?
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>>159744210
Best girl i doubt, second best girl of course
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Another Evangelion riddle.
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Why do you figure Rei grew wings?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTSLZmxuJbk
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>>159757734
I feel like you're right, the original ending was much more fitting and true to the author's intentions I think, all the mattered was the characters and their problems, not the schemes and mechas or the angels. Which is why they abandoned the whole plotline and focused on the characters in the end with the excuse of the instrumentality project. This is what I got the first time around.

But I heard that the real ending was in the movie or something so I went ahead and watched that. At the end of the day, I won't say that I regret watching the movie, but I will say that it felt completely unnecessary and didn't really explain that much more anyway. It feels redundant to me, which is why I'm disappointed a bit. Shinji's need for a mentally boundless world where everyone is connected is explained in the original ending. So why was this movie made?
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>>159758605
Look up Evangelion Platinum in sadpanda and read the summaries for the episodes/the ending. It's an official book that came with the DVD/BDs. Many stuff got explained there.
The Red Cross Book is probably there as well, you got it when you went to watch EoE in theaters or something so it's official too.
I'd post the page about the endings directly but I'm having some difficulties with the Wi-Fi at the moment. Maybe later if the thread doesn't die.
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>>159755724
So, a good start is to read some of the articles in the wikis, but heres some basic stuff:

>Religious symbolism
There is actually little to no SYMBOLISM. Most of it is WORLD BUILDING. One has meaning behind it. Other is simple "how stuff works in this world".
There IS some religious symbolism in the series, but little. Such as the world post 3rd impact mirroring Eden, Adam and Eve.

The basic story goes along:
>Rei has, somehow, the soul of the goddess lilith, progenitor of mankind.
>Killing all the 15 adam related angels will allow lilith to be awaken, and whoever awakes her get to be essentially god of humanity.
>Seele want to do it to merge everyone into MegaRei as a single perfect being. The problem with this plan is that its boring. People cant interact with each other anymore. Thats bad.
>Gendo wanted to do it so he could merge with his wife, Yui, again. By extension he would probably merge EVERYONE with yui too, but he doesnt care.
>Yui was a MADWOMAN that wanted to be an eternal mark of humanity (i dont think it is NECESSARILY a conviction of the author)
>In the end, Rei decides everyone is retarded and gives all the god power to shinji
>Bad decision, he is deeply depressed and suicidal. Have you ever heard someone depressed saying "i wish i had a button to blow up the world"? Thats was it. He causes instrumentality, kill everyone and harvest their souls inside lilith.
>He them realizes it was a bad move. Instrumentality dream world is boring and lonely. Better live in the real world, even if he can get hurt.
>Thats the mark of character development. He doesnt want to live in a FANTASY. He wants to be happy in the real world.
>MegaRei kills herself (or let herself die) to free all the souls.
>Rei tells him that she cant just resurrect everyone, people need to make the willing decision to come back
>Asuka is the first one to come back. Why next to him? Coincidence, fate, irony, Ghost Rei trying to push them to forgive themselves, take your pick.
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This thread gave me cancer
Kaworufags are the worst
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>>159758605
EoE was most likely the original idea, but anno did a really great job making 25 and 26 when he was out of budget.
I also agree with you. It felt cathartic to see the characters forced into one big group therapy session.

I strongly believe that TV ending and EoE are different, and yet very similar (because both share the intent anno wanted to put on the ending). I dont buy the "inside / outside the mind" theory, and i think it makes the series particularly more easy to understand.
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>>159760764
This is what I'm looking for, extremely helpful.

Ok, so I guess the remaining question is what is Seele's motivation to merge everything? Why do they want to put the instrumentality prophecy in motion?

Regarding Shinji's fantasy world, him wanting to "blow up the world" and hating everyone and thus causing everyone's death is more a result of an emotional tantrum than the realisation of his fantasy, or dream in his own words, where he envisions paradise as this world where everyone is connected with one another, forming relationships (which is what he craves) with everyone. The "fantasy" that is realised in the movie is his hate for the world, as a result of his suffering and suicidal thoughts, a world devoid of the relationships that make him happy, it's not his dream world. I thought he was rejecting his own paradise, but he's only rejecting his useless solution to his suffering, rejecting the tantrum itself. His dream is still there, unrealised, but the real world is the closest he can get to it, because it's the only place where he can form relationships, however painful.

Thanks, your post helped me clear up a lot of stuff.
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>>159757878
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>>159760968
>It felt cathartic to see the characters forced into one big group therapy session.
Yeah, that's exactly what I felt with the original ending, it was unique and enjoyable. They did away with all the pretenses and focused on what they did best.

My problem with EoE is that I expected a lot more stuff to be explained and thus was disappointed. It was clear that the creators did not want to show or explain more stuff than they did originally, so EoE is basically just a restructured version of the original ending. They are similar in all the ways that matter I think. Whether or not there's one more Asuka vs Evas fight scene is irrelevant.

>"inside / outside the mind" theory
What are you referring to exactly?
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I've just rewatched the entire series, plus EoE, over the course of two days. That makes the fourth time I've watched it. Since I hadn't watched it for a few years, I expected that my perspectives on who is best girl would change, even a little.

I'm more of a Reifag now than I was last time watched it. You can't be best girl in a show which has Rei, no matter how good you are. I used to find her cute, but now I find her inspiring. That story of a being which isn't really a human, nor a god, but slowly learns to respect humanity by living next to its most hopeless members is heartwarming.

Plus, her lap is the comfiest.
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>>159761160
>Ok, so I guess the remaining question is what is Seele's motivation to merge everything? Why do they want to put the instrumentality prophecy in motion?
They are a fanatical religious cult. They believe its for the better. A world where you technically still exists, but cant feel pain or sadness.

About shinji, i agree. One way to put it is that he wasnt sure about what he was doing, it was a hasty move, maybe even an unconscious one.
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"No! Baka, you w-won't make my panties wet again! It doesn't mean I like you, Baka!"
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>>159750134
Because she's secretly soft inside, like all tsunderes. Nobody lets her bring it out during the series though.

Besides, she just wants to be held. I'm sure she'd be a great little spoon.
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>>159761355
>What are you referring to exactly?
There is a very common theory that says the tv ending is one of the instrumentality dreams shinji had during EoE, and the reason why he rejected instrumentality.

I particularly disagree and take each ending on face value, as its own different ending.
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>>159761426
I like Reis character arc and development. I dont like the fact it has nearly no screen time because its too spoiler heavy.
If we could get and entire series retold by reis view perhaps i would like her more.
As a character, asukas arc is more well defined and paced. Hell, even better than shinjis in my opinion.
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>>159757844
explain
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>>159758605
>So why was this movie made?

fans were pissy, mostly

same thing happens today, fans never change. They are pissy about the end of the third movie too. They never understood anything, not even when history repeats itself.
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>>159762556
I feel like this shit is obvious but time and time again no one but me is able to decode it. Asuka sees Rei's hand. Asuka then looks at her own hand. She has two bandaids from attempting to prepare dinner for Shinji. Rei's hand is completely covered with bandages for she is a silly autist. Asuka realizes she can't compete with Rei's affection for Shinji. Then what happens is she selflessly agrees to pilot the Evangelion, freeing up Rei and Shinji for their party. This also foreshadows Rei's fate, when she sacrifices herself to ensure Shinji no longer has to suffer.
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>>159762987
damn son, thanks
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>>159761494
Fair enough I guess.

>>159762033
I never got that vibe from EoE either, it's obvious the creators wanted to remake the ending while keeping their focus similar to the original.

>>159762649
Ah, that explains a lot I guess, it's always the fans.

Since you mentioned the movies, I assume you mean the rebuild ones, are they worth watching? What other NGE media is worth consuming? I've only watched the anime and EoE.
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>>159763983
Enh, there's no harm in watching the rebuilds. Some parts are better than the originals. Others aren't.

Good reading material:

Epilogue of Evangelion
Shinji Ikari Raising Project
Evangelion Manga
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>>159764089
I'll check them out then, thanks a lot.
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>>159762987
I find Shinji x Rei implications of 2.22 really unsettling, mostly because there was really little in the original.

Death and Rebirth summed it up pretty well.
Shinji is EXTREMELY emotionally shut in. He doesnt show true love to any of the girls.
Misato stands for "family". A strong shoulder, some emotional support
Rei stands for "mother". A familiar being that made him feel safe
Asuka stands for "sex". The only person shinji saw as a "girl" of his age.
And yet the only person he ever shown love was Kaworu because he was unconditional. Not a healthy love either, tho.
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>>159764456
enh the rebuild was just less subtle, she was always motherly to shinji. It's about protecting him. She defended him with the shield, defended him from Asuka, blah blah blah.

Maybe less time to make that clear in a movie or maybe Anno lost respect for intelligence of viewers. for good reason
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>>159764089
>Epilogue of Evangelion
Is 700 pages of pure, distillated diabetes romance between Asuka and Shinji.

I mean, i like this kind of stuff, but it really isnt for everyone.

While we are in the doujin talk, i recommend Tengu No Tsuzura stuff.
His works are hilarious gag hentais. I cant read them without losing my breath.
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>>159764594
I still think the Rebuilds are a sequel. For one thing, the children seem to have dealt with their emotional issues, until 3.0 effectively reset everything.
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>>159765025
oh yeah there's that other evangelion parody too. tony something

but epilogue of evangelion is the best! Asuka and Shinji finally showing their true love for each other.
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>>159765160
>but epilogue of evangelion is the best! Asuka and Shinji finally showing their true love for each other.
The first few pages are Asuka only coming back because of Shinji.

This doesn't bode well for the future...
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>>159765265
As i said before, its pure "super sweet" romance. It kinda throw characterization out of the window. The excuse for them not being mad at each other is "lets pretend nothing before ever happened and never talk about it again.
Then again there is hardly any doujin that get the characterization right. Re-take is the closest one and still pretty far off

I wish there was a doujin with on character writing of the 2 after 3rd impact coming to terms with their terrible behavior from before and forgiving each other.
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>>159765661
I just don't see how people could really screw up their dynamic like this. I guess that's why it's fan fiction: people with talent would write something better.

Whatever, I'm reading it anyway. Thanks for the rec.
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>>159765731
Well, my rec was Tengu No Tsuzura stuff, but i honestly read almost every single evangelion doujin on sadpanda.
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>introduce generic female character
>scenes to force her personality as much as possible
>teenage scenes to make things more casual than the first third of the series
>rip her psyche apart
>make you feel like a jerk for judging the author's intentions
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>>159761526
>every Asuka x Shinji doujin ever
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>>159765025
After stumbling apon the original source for that box image, it makes it a lot more interesting.
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>>159767639
The artist insanity is amazing

https://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=1&f_manga=1&f_artistcg=1&f_gamecg=1&f_western=1&f_non-h=1&f_imageset=1&f_cosplay=1&f_asianporn=1&f_misc=1&f_search=Tengu+No+Tsuzura+language%3Aenglish&f_apply=Apply+Filter
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>>159761882
Asuka wants to be held and looked after. She wants her Wall of Jericho broken down and to be held and have her worries cuddled away.
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>>159757903
brb going to cry uncontrollably for several hours that I'll never be able to wait for Asuka in the hospital or take care of her.

I feel bad for warming up to Rei somewhat now because Asuka needs the love a lot more.

>>159768097
did the same guy also do that one where Gendo runs to be a city councilman and sends an Eva out to destroy Seele councilmen vans?

>>159761882
How many hugs does it take to get to the center of Asuka's heart?
>>159768110
>She wants her Wall of Jericho broken down
I can help her that using teh benis xd
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>>159768110
I would break her "walls of jericho" alright.
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>>159768852
>did the same guy also do that one where Gendo runs to be a city councilman and sends an Eva out to destroy Seele councilmen vans?
Yes, its called "ereCTION"
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>halfway through Epilogue of Evangelion
They just glossed over when they started fucking, didn't they? I'm not expecting hentai here, but you'd think there'd be a bit more to it than that.
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>>159768852
>How many hugs does it take to get to the center of Asuka's heart?
Just one. A long one.
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>>159769688
Its been a long time, but i think its 100% non h
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>>159769730
please. someone. kill me. I can't take this world anymore.
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>>159770552
Way to miss the entire point of everything.
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>>159770627
>he thinks he understands my comprehension of EVA by reading 10 words i typed
fuck people like you.
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>>159758450
>wraps his hands tightly around her neck
Pretty euphemistic way of saying: STRANGLING HER.
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>>159770552
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>>159771612
Its not strangling if she is enjoying.
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>>159752906
>>159757456
>>159757600
Thank you for the translations of those LAK pages.
I don't ship anything in EVA, for I think none of the characters are actually "shippable", but I do find those AsuKawo doujins to be very cute (even though it's obvious that it's just a delusional and exotic ship).

In any case, I find it quite funny how A/K gets on A/S shippers' nerves to the point of attacking you so much. And the reason why I find it so hilarious is that they claim to be "Asukafags", they say they love Asuka, etc. But when they're shown an innocent doujin in which Asuka can be a happy girl and behave like a normal teenager, they can't get to appreciate the beauty of it, because her lover is not their mediocre and broken avatar: poor-Shinji boy.

I tend to believe those shippers relate so much to Shinji (maybe because they also see themselves as fucked up immoral beings) that they use A/S to escape their putrid reality, thinking that having Asuka loving Shinji means they will be utterly redeemed, and all their sins and faults, forgotten (as well as Shinji's).

They are nothing but "Shinjifags" who don't give a shit about Asuka. They just want their self-projection to be selfishly happy, nothing else. Poor people; really poor people.
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>>159755724
c.c. looks way better in that pose
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>>159772254
Although i somewhat agree with you, when you generalize a group like that you are begging for someone to pop up and say "i dont self insert on shinji but..."

I particurlaly have my own preferences, but avoid to shove them, and dont have a fit whenever it gets contested.
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what is with the fascination of asuka being raped or tsundere?
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>>159773469
>Raped
Thats because asuka kinda crossed the line during the series and some people want to see her punished by rape.

>Tsundere
Because that is her "still bearable" behavior from the start of the series.
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>>159744210
How about you all stop self-inserting as
someone your waifu knows about?
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>>159773630
>Raped
Because of horrible people.
However..
I'd climb into her hospital bed and fall asleep with comatose Asuka since I am a lonely weirdo that posts in best girl threads on /a/.
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>>159773945
>>159773630
seems like everything is about rape or childhood trauma when it comes to asuka
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>>159772254
Not a problem.

LAK will always be my OTP, I'll never stop translating it no matter who gives me shit.

I just think its the best option for Asuka, without a doubt. Canon Asuka wouldn't be happy with a guy like Shinji, that's just a fact that unfortunately some people don't want to accept. But that's okay, people can ship what they want, I won't attack them. A shame they don't feel the same, though, this fanbase is too hostile sometimes.
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>>159744210
I want Asuka to bullty my shrimp dick while riding a huge fucking cock on my bed, forcing me to watch as her body trembles in one satisfying orgasm after another. Then I want her to force feed me the dripping gooey creampie freshly sprayed into her gaping, trembling, fully satisfied pussy lips while she grinds her toes against my swelling, achy nuts.
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>>159774221
retard
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>>159772254
It's just the fireposter spamming again, ignore him he's mentally ill.
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>>159774176
Crackship all you want but you should keep it to your tumblr blog instead of randomly spamming threads it has no place in.
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>>159774167

I figure it's like this.
The childhood trauma appeals makes people want to protect and care for her and all that.
The rape stuff comes from her acting like a uppity bitch and people wanting to knock her back down to reality.

Isn't really much middle ground, either someone wants to take care of her because her problems, or knock her down because she acts like a heartless bitch.

>>159774221
Before this post I wasn't sure if this thread coulld get anymore autistic.
I was wrong.
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>>159744210

Try again
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>>159774722
Fuck off, autismo, others were dumping doujins and fanfics in these threads
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEE REI IS BEAT GIRL, FUCK OFF ASUKA KEK https://youtu.be/nKTwb1WCUwY
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>>159773630
kino scene

DAY VS NIGHT

GOD VERSUS MAN
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>>159775114
oh wow a retarded man likes rei best i am now a Rei-rah-rah member
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>>159774965
How does other people doing it make shipping spam okay? If people want to discuss Asuka why must Kaworu be forced where he doesn't belong?
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>>159774965
is there something wrong with that
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I've always liked both Asuka and Rei. Fuck those waifu wars between them and fuck you warmongers.

Now Kaworu and Kaworufags, burn those with fire.
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>>159775321
This thread really reminds me how scum they are.
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>>159744210
>This is best girl
>post a mansuka
hmmm
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>>159774965
The thread had none of that until the kaworu fag showed up and shit up like half the thread with that shit.


>>159775114
>purist virgin waifu
>cloned off used good
what did tyrone mean by this
>>159775190
>If people want to discuss Asuka why must Kaworu be forced where he doesn't belong?
>Asuka
>Kaworu
>Forced
please don't give them any ideas

>>159775321
I like the discussion of why someone likes who they do, but then you get the toilet/mansuka posters showing up, then it just becomes a shit show.

>Now Kaworu and Kaworufags, burn those with fire.
tru
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>>159744210
>unironically saying words like best girl around characters like Asuka
OP into NTR
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>>159773469
> Tsundere
Asuka is actually a nice girl deep down. Her uppity, pompous behaviour masks a vulnerable, lonely girl. Breaking down her shell and helping and comforting the real Asuka inside, is something empathic people want to do.

> Rape
Asuka's bitchy behaviour, makes some go to extremes enjoy seeing her knocked down a peg or three.

> Bondage
Asuka, despite her outward appearance of aggression, is a bottom (she only dominates Shinji because he is so totally beta, and even in his case, clearly wants him to fight back (i.e turn the tables), Mari owns her ass in most art depicting them together), and her bratiness makes such scenarios (even devoid of sex) more amusing. In some hentai and doujins, all three of the above are combined.
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You need to be really sad cunts if you manage to actually HATE a specific character.

Not saying to support, but dont outright hate.

Why cant you wish those sad bunch of fuck ups to be happy once in their lives?
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>>159776124
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>>159775824
You've got issues, man.
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>>159776466
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>>159776530
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>>159776443
ok
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>>159775824
>implying Asuka isn't used goods
>doesn't realize Asuka is German and probably likes tyrone dick
>a teenage slut at age 14
I'm not a reifag or misatofag, but Asukafags shouldn't throw stones.
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>>159774722
>crying for a safespace
>getting this triggered
Sounds like you're the one who needs to fuck off back to tumblr
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>>159776254
I tend to empathize with characters, especially outsiders or troubled people.

Asuka isn't even that much of a bitch, she scores quite low on the Bitchometer, in fact.
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>>159776599
(you)
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>>159776570
All this doujin proves is that gendo is a creepy pedo.
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>>159776706
That isn't an argument.
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>>159776618
It's basically beta cucks who self-insert as Shinji getting butthurt that Asuka likes chads like Kaworu and Kaji
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>>159774176
Kill yourself fucking whale
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>>159776741
>self-inserting as Shinji, the fag who would gladly open his boipussy for another guy
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>>159776678
She isnt pretty bad during about 95% of the series. A little harsh, but completely bearable. The single moment that really gets me mad and wish to slap some sense into her is this specific scene:
>>159773630
>>159775126
3.33 is more depressed and disconnected than bitchy.
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>>159776885
she's probably pissed off because kaji is dead

she alludes to it when she talks to misato

misato might be all captain ahaby for the same reason
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>>159776865
Edgy.
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>>159777117
ah they probably just cut that out for more mari screentime

her mother's probably still dead too even though they don't mention that. Perhaps for once Anno decided to have faith in you that you didn't need this shit beaten into your skull again because you had already seen it happen once before.

He was of course, mistaken.
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>>159777117
>>159776988
Shikinami probably liked but come on, its been 14 years and that was a delusional crush.
If anything, given how she reacts to shinji first asking about rei, she still has a LOT of conflicted feelings about him from 2.22, not about kaji
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>>159777322
She only knew Shinji for a week, I doubt she remembers much about him 14 years later.
That's just dumb and unrealistic.
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>>159777322
>implying Asuka lived through the fourteen years

Like Shinji, she was also catatonic for a period of time in her coma chamber you glimpsed at the end of 2. Who knows when the daring rebels finally rescued her.
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>>159777213
Did you watch 2.22? She didn't want to see Kaji in that aquarium, and she was staring at Shinji and Rei the whole time. She didn't even like Shinji giving food to Rei out of jealousy in the classroom.

>>159777322
Shikinami didn't like Kaji at all, this was very clear. Soryuu Langley Asuka however does.
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>>159776733
>too young to realize the show came out before he was even a thought

inb4 hurrdurr not an argument.
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>>159777396
Nice fanwank
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>>159777410
Nigga, I grew up in Doom and Mario Bros era. You are wrong.
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>>159777462
You're not a 14 year old girl on her period.
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>>159777480
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>>159777544
Misato said Asuka woke up in 2.0
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>>159777597
nuh uh
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>>159777544
I honestly think asuka actually died being crushed in 2.22, and due 3rd impact shenanigans caused by shinji wanting to save everyone and fucking up AT fields everywhere, she was brought back to life, similar to EoE
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>>159777639
Hair too dark, looks like fucking yui in the thumbnail.
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>>159777693
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Asuka best girl.

7
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>>159777771
reroll it will be mine pls
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>>159777771
>>159777798
rats, someday I will claim it
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>>159777544
when the fuck is this
fucking anno when is 4.0 gonna come out so i have an excuse to rewatch this shit
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>Filenames are about to go into the 1500000000000

Feels old man. This is one of my most ancient Asuka pics.
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>>159777708
"Get to work, scrub the sink clean, bitch. Shinji, come see the hot piece of ass in the kitchen!"
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>>159777720
>>159777639
That scene was an animation error, the only woman with a decent sized rack is Misato.
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>>159777899
not canon
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Lets ask some ACTUAL important questions.

Can the NERV development team somehow design the type D plug suit so that I can climb into it and tease Asuka while she is doing tests or fighting in the eva?

>>159777896
>be dating Asuka
>get drunk af with Misato and we both verbally shitpost and cat call Asuka while she is doing chores
livin' the dream
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>>159777831
meh I dunno

some time after Asuka got crushed

by the way, another fun fact, Asuka thinks it was Shinji who strangled her, and given Misato's penchant for explaining things, I bet it was never made clear to her it was Gendo who was responsible. Furthermore, Asuka was very aware of what was going on, just like Toji was in the original. Two red human arms came out of Evangelion unit three during the dummy plug battle. Asuka was fighting back, just like how Toji was deliberately impeding the angel when he got trapped in it. Instead of killing Rei and Asuka in the original, he merely wounded them and turned away whenever he had a chance to finish them off.
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>>159777997
>official calendar by gainax
>not canon
Even without that picture, in EoE Misato is pictured as the largest bust in Eva.
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>>159778328
proofs?
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>>159778390
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>>159778442
B cups at best
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>>159778442
Heh, I got more fun facts guys!

The whole reason Shinji came to Tokyo-3 was to get a look at that rack in person. Does the pose look familiar? Shinji sought out big breasts and he got them, but you must be careful what you wish for.
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>>159778528
More like C, Asuka is an A and Rei is a B.
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>>159778643
>>159778528
>>159778442
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>>159778643
>>159778673
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Some people deserve to be happy. Others deserve each other.
OTP
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>>159779055
>checked
Odd seeing a reasonable person in a waifu war thread.
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Reifags are cancer
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>>159779250
>people that shit on other people's girls are cancer
fixed

>not wanting to carry Asuka home from her trying to an hero in the bathtub, carrying injured Rei to the hospital, getting shitfaced with Misato and eating lunch with Hikari
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>>159779371
I forgot about Maya

>and talk about the things you would do to each of them with Maya since she's into that.
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>>159779250
Why
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>>159779250
>>159779371
>arguing over which horrible person is less cancerous
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>>159779055
even now I don't get it. what is shinji's fucking problem? why did she strangle her? I thought he had accepted people and their flaws at this point
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>>159777396
I feel like she was back in time for Third Impact Proper, however many years later that was, because she knew real things about Central Dogma, but maybe she woke up after and Wille just tells their pilots relevant information.
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>>159779527
Not much of an explanation. Lingering insanity from instrumentality maybe. He honestly didnt seem to be enjoying what he was doing.
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>>159779527
No, this was after Shinji was forced to kill Kaworu thus his spiral into insanity happened. He begged Asuka to help him but since Asuka is never willing to help anyone other than her pride it made things worse.
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>>159779527
>>159779888
Alright I'll tell you.

What was the last thing he did before the world went insane?

He reasoned that if strangling Asuka tore the world apart, perhaps doing it again would put it back.

But you can't turn back time.
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>>159779371
I want to eat out Asuka with Hikari.
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>>159779984
Or he hated Asuka, that this most likely considering she hated his guts and he was afraid of her.
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>>159744210
STOP THIS NOW OR I DONT MAKE YOUR GAY FUCKING 4TH MOVIE RETARDS! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159780059
shinji luuvs asuka
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>>159779984
damn. guess I need to rewatch
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>>159780104
That is why he wanted to kill her and fapped to her half dead body.
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>>159744210
She's a normie tier girl and moot the cuck liked her making her worst girl. If you like asuka, you're a normie and don't belong here.
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>>159779984
I wish that I could turn back time.

Cause now the guilt is all mine.
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>>159779516
>implying that the emotional problems of the Eva girls aren't actually a postive

>Asuka has abandonment issues and desperately needs someone to care about her and won't leave her. If you show that you care and stay with her, she will be intensely loyal.

>Rei is a lonely autistic sperg that hasn't experienced anything in life, so you could show her the various joys of life by doing things together.

>not wanting to protect emotionally vulnerable girls
what are you a normalfag or something
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>>159780059
I like their hate/love relationship. I dont doubt he strangled her because he was afraid of her (although it would make his resolution rather useless if he was already throwing the towel) and that the caress showed him not to be afraid.

I strongly believe that the capacity of changing a bad situation to a good one that humans have is the most important message of the series. What was yui's line? Wasnt it "Even hell can be paradise if you have the will to do so"?
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>>159780337
Aduka is a slut and only cucks love sluts, get out you normie.
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>>159780213
>and fapped to her half dead body.
That the most intimate Shinji ever got with anyone, he is an autist so the only way he can express his feelings is by jerking off.
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>>159780427
(((you)))
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>>159780337
I prefer anime girls that have there share of issues in the sense they are relatable, but ones that tend to be kind of violent and show signs of promiscuity turn me off.
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>>159779527
He's accepted that world is his punishment for being so wrong about people and what they really wanted. He has to stay there, where he can't bother them anymore, but it's cruel to force Asuka. Why would Rei even bother to check in if she wasn't waiting to take Asuka back?
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>>159780516
Moot was a pathetic cuck, good riddance he's gone and worst girl can leave too.
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>>159780582
>Why would Rei even bother to check in if she wasn't waiting to take Asuka back?
Rei is curious and still like / has deep respect for shinji. She most certainly will keep track of him for the rest of his life.
Makes sense for her to check how is he doing in a rather important moment. His sour relationship with asuka is clearly the largest "rock" on the path he has chosen, and it happens to be the first one.
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>>159780785
Asuka is the person he tends to avoids, he is deathly afraid of her.
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>>159780834
Where did you take this conclusion from? In EoE he begs for asuka to save him 3 times.
He doesnt "tend" to avoid her. He certainly is ashamed of what he has done in the moment. He might be scared to face this shame. But "deadly afraid of her" is certainly not the case.
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Friendly reminder that shinji is going to marry asuka
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After EoE, do you think shinji prays to Rei and Kaworu?

Like, some shit is happeing, like he is in a falling plane, would he pray for those 2? Would they intervene? Can they intervene even in small ways?
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>>159781005
Asuka is the last person he asks advice from, and when he went to school he avoided her but she followed him around. Did you see the reaction when she was the foreign exchange student? All the boys in the class were trembling in fear.
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>>159780552

>ones that tend to be kind of violent
I'm used to violence both ways, so not a huge deal for me.

>show signs of promiscuity
She was just seeking validation and thought it would make her seem like an adult, it wouldn't be an issue once she has someone cares about her.

Kaji is the eternal bro and was already wing-manning before even meeting the third child, he is the real hero of the show if you ask me.
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>>159781007
>>>/evageeks/
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>>159780834
> Shinji is afraid of this.

I have a feeling his dick feels very differently.
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>>159778710
Fuck off.
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>>159781222
>I'm used to violence both ways, so not a huge deal for me.

NANI?! How can you shrug off something that big a deal?

>She was just seeking validation and thought it would make her seem like an adult

In the deleted scene Asuka regularly had sex with alot of different men, including Suzuhara Toji. On the current pace, she will become promiscuous if she doesn't change. Its kind of a shame it was deleted..
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>>159780442
He expresses his feelings just fine with the people he actually cares about (ie. not Asuka)
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>>159781282
Not an argument
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>>159781111
He wouldn't dare because Rei would actually do it. She ascended because she heard his voice and came to grant him a wish, if she's around then he still has all the power over the world he gave up.
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>>159781395
>alot of different men
>NANI!?!?! XDXD yare yare daze
Back to pleddit you lie spewer.
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2013 Saboten Con.
YM = Yuko Miyamura (Asuka's seiyuu) TG = Tiffany Grant (Asuka's voice actor)

>Q: Does Asuka really like Shinji?
>TG: Are you stupid?
>YM: No.
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>>159781452
Not on /m/ nor here. Fuck off and stay away.
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>>159776289
L-lewd
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>>159780213
Alright, mister I've decided to set my mind to the task. I'll go through it with you all.

Now, let's go step by step. The big question on everyone's mind is why Shinji strangled her? Also, may as well listen to this while I work it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7y8U29bfzE

Music is a big part of the puzzle. So, my assertion is that Rei Ayanami can only assume the form of the deceased. Although it's possible she can appear as the living, and it was merely never shown. At any rate, she was only shown as appearing as the dead, and I will work with this.

She appears as Misato, Yui, Kaworu, and Ritsuko, who have all died before the music montage begins. But Asuka has died as well, in her fight with the mass production evangelions, she is split apart and impaled. I believe Shinji is aware of this fact, now that I think about it. Anyway.

If Rei uses emotions to break your A.T. field and steal you away into instrumentality, to get through to Shinji, who has abandoned love, she must use hatred. A similar thing is viewed with guitar guy, who is drawn into instrumentality through terror instead of a peaceful death in the arms of a lover, opening the door of your heart, just like the title theme.

So, if it's a phantom Rei masquerading as Asuka that goaded shinji into strangling "Asuka", we know why he strangled her the first time. And don't forget... Rei is good at getting people to strangle her with just words, isn't she? She did that as a mere child. Compared to a great scientist, tricking Shinji should be child's play for her.

Now, where does that leave us? We still need to figure out why Shinji strangled Asuka again, assuming I am correct thus far.

(continued)
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>>159781480
>nani
>something to do with reddit
>confirming you only watch anime dubs
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>>159781604
That makes no sense. Shinji was already in instrumentality before he saw the montage scene with Asuka.
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>>159781624
I want be those grapes
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>>159781395
>In the deleted scene Asuka regularly had sex with alot of different men, including Suzuhara Toji. On the current pace, she will become promiscuous if she doesn't change
The scene was REALLY clear that she ended up like that because she was a depressed baka shinji-less Asuka.

Of course things would be different if the situation around them were also drastically different.
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>>159781480
>alternative live action sequence in EoE
>lies
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwBs3VsNfdY
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>>159781682
No, I'm just saying overusing or unnecessarily using the romanization of "what" or any other common Japanese expletive only ousts you as a /v/ browser. Nice artifacted image too you retarded fuckface. Your brief posting history reads like you've never contributed to a thread. At all.
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>>159781810
She would do the exact same thing with Shinji.
Shinji and Touji are the same in her eyes, and they both equally would make her unhappy and depressed as she uses them only for sex.
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>>159781823
And that literally only shows Touji you daft newfag fuck. This is news to no one and the fact you keep reposting this lately leads me to believe you're a newfag of colossal proportions. I suggest you fuck off back to your normalfag activites.
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>>159781496
>Using biased VAs as reference
The only true source besides the series is anno himself
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>>159781604
Get to the part of the song yet where it says:

>did she promise you the world and did that girl just throw your love away
>leave you like a lonely solitaire with just despair for company
>do you think you'd find revenge so sweet
>make it so your hearts will never beat
>squeeze the very last and dying breath from everything you've ever dreamed

Maybe that is your answer right there? It'd be foolish to overlook something just because it's "too easy". Maybe Shinji simply wanted to kill her and the caress stopped him when he realized company with asuka would not just be despair. That song was the runner up to kom susser tod, so it would have played in the same scene, presumably, so the first strangle, not the second.

>>159781684
shut up dummy you can't prove that
Anyway, what if we are looking at this from the completely wrong perspective? What if things aren't as they seem to be? We've seen this idea before, in the end of the television show.

>The Shinji Ikari that exists in your mind is only one Shinji Ikari. There's also the Shinji Ikari in Misato Katsuragi's mind, the Shinji Ikari in Asuka Sohryu's mind, the Shinji Ikari in Rei Ayanami's mind, and the Shinji Ikari in Gendo Ikari's mind. All are different Shinji Ikari's, but each of them is a true Shinji Ikari. Your fear is of the Shinji Ikari's who exist in the minds of others.'

Now, the scene order was first the surreal sandbox, scene, then the misato/kaji sex scene, then the traincar scene, followed by the infamous kitchen scene. We assume this is all from Shinji's perspective, but that might not be the case, as maybe it's the Shinji that exists in someone else's mind.

The very last thing that Shinji says before he strangles Asuka is "don't kill me".

A weird statement from a guy who wanted to die twenty minutes before that. Or perhaps, we are seeing things from Asuka's point of view? Is this the Shinji that lives in her mind? Was the Shinji in the prior scenes, shouting at nothing, genuine?
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>>159781773
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>>159781934
And where does that leave us now? If this is Asuka's mind, why did Shinji strangle her the second time.

I will ponder more.
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>>159781395
>How can you shrug off something that big a deal?
More verbal threats than anything, I've dealt with it for years so it doesn't make a difference to me.

>in the deleted scene
It was showing what an alternate timeline without Shinji and was removed from the movie after all. Without someone that actually cares about her, that is what would happen.

If we are going off alternate timelines, should I start going on about the Angelic days timeline plus it was actually featured in the show.

>>159781496
Tiffany the absolute madwoman.

>>159781888
checked
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>>159781858
Whats the base for that affirmation?
Nearly every version of the series show that asuka shinji is a very important person in asukas life for the best or for the worst.
Asuka relationship with toji was based on pure sex.
Her relationship with shinji was much more complex and had little to nothing to do with sex. It had to do with power and influence struggle.
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>>159781934
If you can't answer your own questions, maybe it's not worth asking them you fucking retard.
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>>159781847
Look up nani on google and you'd be surprised
>complaining about the reaction image
I just searched up "confused anime girls on google image, don't complain. That image has been used on /a/ for years.
>contributed
this thread is only about waifu posting by faggots who don't understand eva. Anno would laugh at you.
>>159781884
>getting this mad over their waifu isn't pure
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>>159781684
Not him but i disagree. I think its a flashback he had while starting the instrumentality, and honestly it is hard to prove any side is correct.
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>>159781955
Pls anon stop
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>>159781934
>shut up dummy you can't prove that
We see Shinji close his eyes and devolve into tang after he sees giant Kaworu.
He was already in instrumentality.
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>>159782126
>it's actually just filenames kun again
How did I fucking know?
>I just searched whatever on google instead of getting it off 4chan
Eat shit. I just wish you'dvoluntarily doxx yourself so I could wipe you from existence already.
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>>159782119
Mister, I am working on a mystery. No one has all the answers at first, but I refuse to give up like you seem to. You can choose to never understand the mysteries before you, but I won't give up. Perseverance always wins the day.
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>>159782200
I'll admit he closed his eyes, but again I say, shut up dummy.
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>>159782183
>megumin having a USP instead of a Glock
Lost opportunity for a inside joke
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>>159781888
Anno consults with all his seiyuu like Miyamura about their characters.
She knows more about Asuka than you ever will.
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>>159782126
Right it's been used for years. Which further cements your newfaggotry because you had to google it rather than saving it from the myriad amount of times it has been posted, like in a kyon's sister thread you oblivious newfag fuck.
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>>159782168
We see Shinji going into tang during the giant Rei scene. That's where he was first brought into instrumentality.
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One day I'd like to believe that Eva threads will get a blanket ban until 3.0+1.0. I know it won't happen but it's a nice thought.
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>>159782238
We see him fade into orange. It's clearly him going into tang. Everything afterwards is him in instrumentality.
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>>159782203
>implying I am filenameskun
No, I just saved it to my eva screenshot folder. Notice the file name difference.

I don't even hate any of the Eva characters, but I just find it ridiculous that people waifu these characters. That wasn't the master's intention.
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>>159782105
Asuka acted the same way around Toji as she did around Shinji.

Except Toji actually stood up to her instead of being a little bitchboy. No wonder she got wet for him.
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>>159782318
or it's his fantasy that he gets to see like the others. If he is more complicated it would take more to get him to let go.

They cut the montage to say that Shinji's ego barrier is fading. That happens roughly right after he says it would better if he never existed and screams. That was probably his wish.
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>>159782335
Filenames kun is notorious for renaming his battery of images occasionally. Go fuck yourself you memeing shitbag. Anno was a failed normalfag and by the sounds of it, so are you. Incel piece of shit.
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>>159782278
And yet was still able to talk and think for himself. Shinji has a "special position" in instrumentality, being choosen by rei and all. He was able to ponder and talk in the sea of LCL. He certainly can remember a important memory earlier on.
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>>159781934
Interesting theory, but in the Red Cross Book it says Shinji was taken into instrumentality by Kaworu.

The Everything You've Ever Dreamed song is also great, but I wonder why it was cut from the movie. Also its lyrics are a loose translation of Anno's version, so I wonder if it's viable.
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>>159782203
I swear it's the same 5 people in every thread
>Kaji/Kaworu Asuka poster
>Rei toilet guy
>Kaworu Asuka poster
>transvestite asuka poster
>that one guy that keeps saying everyone should love all eva girls even though he fights in the threads
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>>159782490
Take your meds fireposter
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>>159744210
NO KOWARU IS THE BEST GIRL!!!
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>>159782369
No, she didnt. She acted mean tsun tsun towards EVERYONE.
She only acted "seductively" towards shinji. She was teasing him non stop, begging for his attention. She had a rather sexy swimwear when around shinji, walked without a bra, wasnt really that bothered by testing naked close to him, while she dressed formally in her "date" and everyday life.
Shinji was leagues more important to her than toji.
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>>159782417
That's a stretch. We see him smiling peacefully for the first time in the entire movie during that scene.

>>159782453
Sure, but there's no reason to believe he wasn't brought into instrumentality at that Giant Rei scene because everything points to that.
Furthermore, I don't think the scene with Asuka is a memory, the real Asuka wouldn't know that Shinji is afraid of Misato and Rei.
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>>159782451
Filenameskun wouldn't try to be reasoning with you to appreciate all the characters and the true meaning of Evangelion. filenames is rather incoherent and repeats himself.

What I'm getting from you is that you hate Eva, but you put your own distorted version of Asuka Langley Soryuu that simply doesn't exist.
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>>159782525
That isn't fireposter.

>>159782490
>>that one guy that keeps saying everyone should love all eva girls even though he fights in the threads
Fucking thank you. Glad I wasn't the only one to notice that faggot. You know what? Let's get ARK in here, this thread needs to die. ARK get your faggot ass in here.
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>>159782591
>towards EVERYONE
Except Kaji
Except Hikari
Except all the boys and girls at school

>She was teasing him non stop, begging for his attention
You mean Kaji. She only teased Shinji is three scenes max and that's when she was worrying about Kaji or just extremely lonely.
Anyone would have done at that point, Shinji wasn't special or important to her and the alternative live action scene shows that.

He's just another sex object like Toji.
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>>159782616
I wouldn't put it past that slime. You could just be the poster mentioned here >>159782621
covering for him. You're both faggots that ought to fuck off. These threads are garbo enough as is.
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>>159782621
>>159782668
Take your meds fireposter.
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>>159781519
asuka has tits, nothing to throw a fit over, anon, just take a deep breath and calm down
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>>159782549
Calm down Shinji
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>>159782680
>this stale old meme again
For what purpose.

>>159782688
I never said she didn't you mouthbreathing diaperfag I just don't want to see your retarded diaperfag fetishposting here or on /m/. You got shoo'd off from there so why not fuck off from here too and go back to whatever fetish forum shithaven where you diaperfags circlejerk eachother at and leave these boards?
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>>159781604
Rei didnt pretend to be kaworu. That was the real deal. It wasnt only a rei-lilith mix.
It was the forbidden union of adam and lilith.

Im not sure with this obsession that EVERY SINGLE person shinji saw in the instrumentality was rei disguised. We have hard proof that real asuka and shinji talked a little during instrumentality (the exchange about him jerking off to her, which is confirmed by real asuka outside the LCL in the last scne)
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>>159782751
that isn't an edit, nor is it a diaper, are you having a bad day?
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>>159782754
"how disgusting" doesn't confirm that
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>>159782812
He's mentally deranged. Ignore and move on.
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>>159782837
How disgusting is in reference to Shinji masturbating
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>>159782812
Oh fuck off I confused you with this chucklefuck >>159778710

Let's see what retard you are. Okay so you're this fucksniff right? >>159781452
Obviously I replied to you because I assumed you're the diaperfag retard that keeps shitting on /m/ because you replied to my reply to the diaperfag. (Assuming you're not him and just yanking my chain anyhow)
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>>159782654
She is tsun towards all the other boys too, and probably the girls. Her only friend was hikari and it seemed a little abusive too. Asuka just showed up, took her video games and stayed there the whole evening.
Kaji was the only person besides shinji she tried to conquer because he also didnt show big interest in her.
>She only teased Shinji is three scenes max
Thats more than the ONLY time she was actually sexually teasing kaji.
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>>159782877
or, it's not.
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>>159744210
Wrong answer anon
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>>159782845
>samefagging
Wait, so this is a new development, are you telling me you're the notorious diaperfag from /m/ as well, filenames kun?
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>>159782751
>>159782812
>panties are diapers
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>>159782898
>She is tsun towards all the other boys too, and probably the girls
No? We see her laughing and getting along with them whenever she's at school, even though they all secretly hate her.

All she could ever talk or think about was Kaji, she used Shinji as a last resort when she wanted to feel validated. She'd act the same way if it had been Toji living with her as a pilot instead.
Shinji has literally no special quality different from any other boy. He's not special.
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>>159782942
Why do you insist on wasting my time like this?
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>>159782908
It's literally confirmed to be in reference to that.
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>>159782978
>>159783017
post the unedited version then
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>>159783033
>post something NSFW so you can get get b& teehee so funnay
You can find the image in question on any booru provided you're not a colossal newfag.
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Is anyone else currently having an existential crisis after realizing they are arguing with the same people about the same shit using the same arguments about a which fictional girl in a 20+ year old chinese cartoon is the best at 1 am on a week night?

I don't know why I even to these threads anymore.
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>>159782837
That line is one of the few things anno actually bothered to explat about the movie, and its pretty much set in stone.

The "everyone is rei in disguise" theory, however, is such an old evageeks theory full of plot holes that ignores one of the most basic logic rules (occans razor), i will never not be mad about how much people still use it without questioning it.
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>>159783092
No shit that's why you try to stop browsing them. Or just filter them.
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>>159783096

Now you've done it.
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>>159781955
Maybe they don't need Shinji, maybe they only need each other for loving and kinky lesbo fun
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>>159782837
>>159782877
Anno and Asuka's seiyuu literally confirm that's what "kimochi warui" means.
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>>159783194
Mari already claimed both of them for herself
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>>159783096
This whole forum is a hive of ineptitude and stagnation. All you ever want is to drag everyone else down to your pitiful level to delude yourself into believing your minute level of intelligence is on par with the insightful.
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>>159783092
Its entertaining.
Usually I get some good image dumps
Once a while there is one argument or 2 worth discussing going around.
The problem is that people are usually too stubborn to accept anything other than their headcanon is even remotely possible, no matter how much strength the other arguments may have.

On the other hand, most proper lore discussion threads archive with 30 posts.
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I want to be friends with all the Eva kids.
But especially Kaworu, because I could learn all kinds of sweet angel powers from him.
And maybe he'd teach me piano too.
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>>159783092
What the fuck else do you have to do?

Do the things that make you happy; don't judge yourself by other people's standards.
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>>159783096
You don't deserve my presence, or the enlightenment I would provide when I finally reach the answer. You will remain and wallow in your pathetic state of being. I've solved mysteries that you could spend your whole life on and have nothing to show for it.
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>>159783328
Watch anime idk, I swear I've spent more time in eva threads recently then actually watching anything.
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>>159783376
>watching anime
Where do you think you are?
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>>159783096
Occam's razor? You just had to say that didn't you. You couldn't have phrased that more like a retard if you had tried. Do you even understand yet how much contempt I have for you? You are the most contemptible poster I have ever encountered.
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>>159783229
>mfw Asuka will be paired with a girl and Shinji will ascend to the heavens to be with Kaworu forever as gods on a higher plane
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>>159783334
>>159783173
>>159783231
Im sorry. Thanks for proving me wrong with that strong evidence supporting your theories
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>>159783398
I'd rather see Asuka end up with Kaworu for maximum butthurt on all sides
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>>159783096
I keep an image, a reaction image. It's a one of a kind. I've never seen it anywhere else, aside from the time a person posted it and said I was their favourite poster. I won't describe it to you. But I keep it saved because maybe someday I will encounter my favourite poster. I tell you this story because you are the worst poster and I wish I had a suitable picture that depicted just how terrible you are.
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>>159783398
There's a 50% chance she and Shinji get together after a fight and they talk about their feelings. There's also a 50% chance we go full EoE and the plot gets thrown in a blender.
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>>159783446
I'd rather see all fujoshi cease to exist.
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>>159783427
You don't deserve the privilege of me stooping to explain things to such a lesser being. You've gotten what you wanted, you can exist in your little bubble and ensure you never grow in any way.
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>>159783483
Oh, the "full EoE" chance is 100%, thats for sure.
1.11 = 1 to 6
2.22 = 7 to 23
3.33 = 24
4.44 = EoE
Maybe they can get together after its all over.
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>>159783096
How fucking stupid can you get, honestly?

Occam's razor?
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>>159783096
Can you give me a simple explanation for why you would say something so asinine or does occam's razor forbid it?

Don't answer, I don't want to hear your blubbering idiocy. Nothing you say is of any value, I am merely berating you.
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>>159783507
That would happen if we get an Asuka x Kaworu endgame
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>>159783446
Maximum butthurt would be something like rei x gendo, kaworu x misato, asuka x fuyuzuki.
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>>159783483
>>159783581
Doubt it. No one the staff seems to want them together and Rebuild has mostly been Shinji obsessing over Rei.

I think there's a good chance Shinji will die and the franchise will end for good.
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>>159783679
>kaworu x misato
I'd love that. Smug shotas dominating MILFS is my fetish.
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>>159783096
>occam's razor

My anger is fading but my disdain is eternal. How is it possible for a person with this level of irrationality to exist?
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>>159783655
It would be much the opposite.
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>>159783685
>ending their biggest money printer on the market
love triangle guaranteed to happen
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>>159783581
I mean, Asuka obviously cares about Shinji and she's been bottling it up for over a decade. She's going to unload on him, and if he's coherent at the time, he'll defend himself. I personally believe the sequel theory, and as such I don't think they're in the same place emotionally as they were before. That sort of reset now that Shinji is catatonic, but IIRC, they changed that scene when his seiyuu was too upset to read her lines.

She's going to ask why he's so obsessed with Rei (and by extension not her), and he'll say something to the effect that he knew she could take care of herself.

Or, more likely, there will be another eldrich horror ending and Mr. Anno's Wild Ride will take another trip into Hell.
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>>159783756
What do you mean? Fujoshits would kill themselves if Kaworu was paired with a girl.
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>>159783483
Very doubtful, the staff love Kaworu and they have a long history of disliking the Asushin relationship.
>>159783685
Well, Asuka is a completely different character now and was made to be all about Shinji but I agree with you. Anno and Sadomoto are like Ikuhara in that they absolutely hate hetero relationship and always show it in a negative light.
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>>159783792
Nice delusions, but Asuka is going to be regulated to a background character like the rest of the Rebuilds.
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>>159783096
My only lament is that the hatred I have for you is incapable of being conveyed, especially to the likes of you.

What could I do? The words for my contempt don't exist and they will bounce of your thick skull anyway. If I knew you in person, physical violence wouldn't be sufficient, not even murder could make up for the stupidity you have wrought.
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>>159783760
Anno doesn't give a shit about what the fans want,

>>159783822
If they're doing an ANIMA ending, I except some gay shit between Shinji and Kaworu again.

But Japan doesn't like Shinji anymore so they may kill him off unfortunately.
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>>159783882
asuka was going to be the main character to begin with anyway, may as well kill off shinji
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>>159783882
>Anno doesn't give a shit about what the fans want,
>But Japan doesn't like Shinji anymore so they may kill him off unfortunately.
wat
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>>159783685
I think anno dont want to make 4.44 because it wouldn't be nearly as good as EoE.
No one cares if the movie version of episode 6 is weird.
Everyone would be mad if the remade version of EoE is not fucking perfect.

>No one the staff seems to want them together and Rebuild has mostly been Shinji obsessing over Rei
I feel the same, but hey, hope die last.

>I think there's a good chance Shinji will die and the franchise will end for good.
Also been thinking about that for a while. I know this name alone pisses a lot of people off, but i think re-takes ending is fitting with the rebuilds. Except the shipping.
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>>159783840
Asuka is only shown as a yuri fan service character in rebuild, it was pointless having her in it. Besides, Miyamura's voice has really has not aged well.

>>159783882
Doesn't Shinji have more fan art than Asuka and Rei on pixiv?
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>>159783096
I hope one day you are forced to face just how stupid you are, and when you finally confront yourself, there will be nowhere left to run. You will have to live for eternity with yourself.

Now I can finally have some bliss, imagining that is your fate, trapped inside yourself forevermore.

That is a fitting consequence.
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>>159783822
>Anno and Sadomoto are like Ikuhara in that they absolutely hate
Anno is the only person on the staff that seem to support shinji x asuka. At least he was by EoE era.
Maybe he been convinced to abandom his waifu and go for the one japan loves the most, like the good sell out he is.
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>>159783990
Hey anon, let me tell you one thing:
Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor Occans razor
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>>159784019
You have to ask yourself how the characters are important to the story and each other. Rei couldn't win in NGE because she was a living plot device and she didn't have the same conflict dynamic that Shinji and Asuka had.

This time around, it seems that Shinji is more invested in Rei, but she's MIA at the moment for plot reasons. Also, the idea of anyone "winning" in Evangelion is absurd - if there was a no happy endings series, this is it.
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>not misato
pfft
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>>159784086
Not that guy, but it would have been better if managed the way that Asuka had the same rocky relationship with Shinji but actually try to write a proper resolution to it. It doesn't have to be romantic, but at least meaningful in some way.

Such a missed opportunity with Rebuild.
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>>159784086
>if there was a no happy endings series
People can clearly be happy even if they went through shit. I see EoE as strongly optimistic. They are really rock bottom, the only way left was upwards.

What would really piss me off is 4.44 having rei as a clear winner while asuka just got an open ending on EoE.
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>>159784188
Well one is walking through the wasteland with him, and the other is in another dimension with his mom.

Asuka's going to get her time.
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>>159783679
>kaworu x misato
If you really want everyone dissatisfied, Maya 3.0. She's unimportant and doesn't get Kaworu a central role by association, it would get everyone that only characterizes her by lesbian implications from NGE, and anyone who used to like her has to hear an extra line of dialogue.
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>>159784086
>she didn't have the same conflict dynamic that Shinji and Asuka had.
I will go one step ahead. You see, asuka and shinji had a very interesting dynamic between them. It was chaotic, hateful, and i couldn't help myself other than wish it work out in the end. Not only those 2 characters had dynamics either. NGE was full of dynamics, including the ones with Rei.

In the rebuilds, shinji and rei clearly have a stronger relationship, but their dynamic is not interesting this time. Its not flawed. Its not their own fault things arent working out. Is a generic shounen romance that is boring and predicable.

I would actually support it if it was interesting, but its not.

Then im gonna ask: why even bother making an Eva sequel /reimagination if it doesn't have trully interesting relationships?
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>>159784554
Well there's not a lot of time to devote to these things and they rely heavily on the viewer already being familiar with the series.

A lot of people criticize the Rebuilds for not being as in depth or taking the series to new heights, but I see it the opposite. I think they're giving us the bait and switch: the first two films were deceptively simple and childish fan service, 3.0 was about returning to form and screwing things up. I think 4.0 is going to take everything we've learned before and stand it on it's head.
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>>159784683
>they rely heavily on the viewer already being familiar with the series
Thats the problem. They dont. My knowledge of the cast is hardly useful because as the characters stand till 2.22, they dont really need an indepth explanation.
On 3.33 it would be useful, but its way too different this time. And poorly explained.

>I think they're giving us the bait and switch
>Anno was merely pretending to be retaded for 2 movies.
I wish i could have as much faith as you do.
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>>159783914
Neither Anno nor Japan like Shinji anymore.
He's gonna be ded, nigga.
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>>159784019
>Anno is the only person on the staff that seem to support shinji x asuka.
Anno never supported it. He basically showed why he can't ever happen in EoE.

The only ship Anno ever vocally supported was Kawoshin. I don't think his stance has changed seeing 3.0.
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>>159785136
The message of EoE was showing all the hetero relationships as venomous as possible, and that Shinji can only find happiness by being gay.
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>>159785136
Anno's wife is a Kawoshin shipper, so at least we know for sure Shinji won't be paired with a girl in final.
It's either alone end or homo end.
I'm banking on the former considering this is Eva, though.
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>>159785213
Basically, Anno projecting his hatred of women and homolust for Ikuni
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>>159785225
Didn't the seiyuu's say they were hoping to have a happy ending, which means something that I've always said in these threads by 4.0 "Shinji will save the world some how, and then his soul will journey to the heavens so he can be with Kaworu forever" It will be the most shit ending possible and trigger all the waifufags. IT will be a movie to appeal to Japanese who love Kawoshin. Look at Yuri On Ice for example, this is the direction Anno is going in.
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>>159785136
He was the only to not vocally deny it. Thats why the eoe ending is open for interpretation.
Meanwhile nearly everyone else seen to hate the possibility that half nge was shaping to.
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>>159785306
Yes, MIyamura did:
>Q: What was your reaction when you heard about Rebuild?
>SS and TG: Getting paid.
>YM: A happy ending but it hasn’t happened yet. I wasn’t happy with the EoE ending. Shinji and Kaworu married.

That's similar to how ANIMA ended, so I wouldn't put it past them. But I still think Shinji might end up dying. Anno will definitely want to deliver some kind of middle finger to everyone as usual.

>Look at Yuri On Ice
Funny story about that, did you know Anno helped greenlight/fund Yuri on Ice with the Animator Expo? And a lot of the staff like Kubo and Hiramatsu worked on Eva.
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>>159785251
Ikuhara also has a hatred for male+female romance, it would have been cool if Anno made Asuka and Shinji into something like Haruhi+Kyon and Sento+Seiya, but Anno can't write romance period.
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>>159785385
>but Anno can't write romance period
I thought he did a good job with Misato x Kaji and Kaworu x Shinji
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>>159785371
How did anima end?
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>>159785355
Anno hasn't vocally spoken about many things regarding Eva. He's never even talked about any of the characters relationships except Kaworu/Shinji.

He wants everyone to forge their own meaning and interpretation for themselves so he stays silent on a lot of things, naturally, but that doesn't mean he supports your view.
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>>159785453
You don't even want to know.
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>>159785422
Kaworu has no flaws and is one of the most boring characters I've ever seen, his on screen chemistry with Shinji leaves much to be desired. KajixMisato was kind of shown in a negative, if you read through the lines.
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>>159785467
>Anno hasn't vocally spoken about many things regarding Eva. He's never even talked about any of the characters relationships except Kaworu/Shinji.
>He wants everyone to forge their own meaning and interpretation for themselves so he stays silent on a lot of things, naturally, but that doesn't mean he supports your view.
I believe that's why the series has remained so popular. Not only are there so many details, but by deliberately being ambiguous and vague, he spurs on endless discussion about it.
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>>159785530
>>159785467
Marc Laidlaw did this with Half-Life as well, its a "show alot but don't tell the meaning" style of writing.
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>>159785518
t. someone who doesn't get Eva
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>>159785467
I agree with you. I trully do.
But i feel threatened by the idea that anno might simply ignore that concept with the rebuilds and give it a defined ending, specially if he goes "it is really a sequel, EoE be damned, heres the real ending".

If thats the case, im 100% sure i wont like the ending, because i dont like the rebuilds characterization over the original one.
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>>159785493
Start talking already.
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>>159785371
>Everything must be gay
I fucking swear to God, those filthy slant eyed fucks have shit taste.
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>>159785518
>Kaworu has no flaws
>most suicidal character in the entire cast with no self-worth whatsoever
His chemistry with Shinji is on point because he's supposed to literally be him. I've never seen a similarly portrayed relationship like this in other anime.
KajixMisato is realistic even in its negativity, which certainly was well written.

>>159785643
There's a chance he might do it out of spite.
Only time will tell.
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>>159785633
I understand Eva just perfectly, but Kaworu is a wish fulfillment character and doesn't fit the tone and mood of the anime.

Nagisa Kaworu only exists as a some delusional version of Ikuhara in Anno's homolust, perfect and beyond comprehension, can be loved by anyone. Kaworu is in an anime where everyone is flawed and realistic, and Kaworu is not.
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>>159785712
The Japanese have practiced homosexuality since ancient times
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>>159785743
He's literally him in ANIMA, but in NGE:TV and EoE there is no reference to him being a future self or Shinji from another dimension. The only thing thats mentioned is Kaworu is the avatar of Adam.

>>159785774
Then what is Atelier and Vega?
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>>159784554
>In the rebuilds, shinji and rei clearly have a stronger relationship, but their dynamic is not interesting this time. Its not flawed.

What? Shinji and Rei may have a stronger relationship, but it's basically a redux of Gendo and Yui with incest on top of it.
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>>159785675
>The shape of Shinji
><It’s in Lilin fairy tales as well, isn’t it? Since Lilith was uncontrollable and Eve was completely duped in the story of the snake, why didn’t it also happen to Adam, who was on the other side?>
—What are you talking about, Kaworu-kun?
<Just a fairy tale. One that might hide the truth unexpectedly within it…about what Adam cut off.>
—Cut what off?
><The serpent—that is, the evil and sin that is part of Adam. In an attempt to be whole, Adam had cut off the part of himself that was the most human.>
—For what?
><To meet the being that gave him Lilith—he did it with the best of intentions, but it ended up costing his right to do so.>
—To meet…? Who?
<Light… fills.>
Excerpt 2

Deep inside the mouth opened by Devil’s backbone, he thought he saw his own face, terribly distorted.
>—Could it be that I’m the serpent—the human flaw that was cut off from Adam, Kaworu-kun?
<That’s not for you to know as the “you” you are now.> Those concrete words were the first time he heard him not speak in riddles.
><You intend on descending from this time loop as the Shinji-kun you are now, don’t you? Then you should give the right to have that information to the “you” of the new world.>
—You…aren’t going to stop me, are you?
<Haven’t I told you, Shinji-kun? I’m your ally. No matter which one of “you” I meet.>
—Kaworu-kun?
<This is goodbye.> Shinji thought Kaworu might have smiled.
Shinji’s blade glinted, slicing up the body of the Armaros giant from the left arm of its body.

--ANIMA, final chapter.

Basically, Kaworu and Shinji are the same person, and Shinji keeps resetting the Eva universe until he's satisfied. Kaworu is the only one who remembers.
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>>159744210
Shikinami Asuka? yes. yes she is.
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>>159785800
Anno directly says himself Kaworu is the ideal Shinji in NGE.
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>>159785872
Can I have a quote?
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>>159785746
>Kaworu is a wish fulfillment character and doesn't fit the tone and mood of the anime.
Are you fucking high?

His whole bit is to give Shinji what he wants (love) and then take it away from him to break him.
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>>159785746
>I understand Eva just perfectly
You clearly don't.

You're literally complaining that an alien god like Kaworu acts like an alien god.
He never claimed to be human, and the fact that he is presented the way he is makes complete sense as the angels are always presented as divine counterparts to the humans.

Kaworu exists mainly as a reference to Jung's theory of the other self. In order for Shinji to accept himself, he must first identify the ideal.

Also, to say Kaworu is perfect is technically wrong as anon mentioned here: >>159785743
Kaworu is going through the same problems as Shinji is, and if you had payed attention while watching the show you would have realized that.
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>>159785888
>Anno: Yes, well. I’d been thinking about having the last Angel be a young man who looked like a human.
>Interviewer: But wouldn’t the name Nagisa Kaworu fit even a girl?
>Anno: But that’s a young man! There’s no feminine sense whatsoever, right? Because it’s Shinji and another Shinji. Since it’s an ideal Shinji that’s appearing, it can’t be a girl.
>Interviewer: Ah, I see.
>Anno: Since he’s the character who’s clearing up all of the complexes that Shinji has.
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>>159785948
You just pointed out lore reasons why Kaworu is literally Shinji, but that doesn't make him a good character or a good romance.
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>>159785996
None of the fucking characters make for good romance. This is fucking Evangelion.
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>>159785920
This dude was clearly too blinded by the homolust to actually pay attention to the episode.
What a fag.

>>159785996
You haven't given me any legitimate reasons as to why you think he isn't except
>hurr shinji blushed at him, durr so gay

Having the final boss be an ideal version of yourself is a novel idea, he's a great character not only for the climax of the show but Shinji's development as well.
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>>159785835
I see.
This raises more questions about the rest of the ANIMA. It involves time loops too? Like kaworu line implies?
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>>159786058
It's implied that all additions in the Eva franchise are just one of many timeloops Shinji has caused.
Kaworu is the only one who remembers because he's the "ideal Shinji".
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>>159785948
Not the same anon, and I understand kaworu and the other idealized self theory he is supposed to be based about, but while kaworu himself is flawed, his relationship with shinji isnt, and that makes for shitty and boring story unless its cut short quickly.
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>>159785990
I'm pretty sure it means in terms of complexites and as a metaphor for Shinji's struggle, not in a literal sense. Its japanese, probably bad translations.

>>159786027
I said that Anno can't write romance, compared to some other anime studios. Rebuild is Anno's attempt at it and its pretty much agreed its bad except in BD's sold in Japan.

>>159786054
Lore reasons are not examples of good writing, you still haven't explained why Kaworu is a good character.

>>159786086
Yeah, because Kaworu has god powers he has the magic eye, reading steiner for some reason.
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>>159786115
I disagree, their relationship is inherently flawed because Shinji is the only one getting anything out of their relationship. It's too one-sided. Kaworu helps Shinji, but Shinji makes no effort to help Kaworu, just like with the rest of his relationships.
And it's because of that Kaworu dies when Shinji could have easily saved him.
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>>159786125
It's both metaphorical and literal.
Especially now that ANIMA confirmed it.
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>>159786125
Kaworu is a good character in the same way every Eva character is a good character.
He contributes to the story in a meaningful way.

You don't need some edgy backstory or to be an emotional wreck to achieve that. Rather, because Kaworu is presented as flawless that just further establishes the tone and divinity of the angels.
It would make no sense for him to be portrayed any other way.
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>>159786086
You know what. What pisses me off the most isnt even the wild idea that shinji is part of adam and essentially god.
What pisses me off are the timeloops.
I have a HATRED for time loops, time travel, etc.

I particularly believe that any character in fiction (and reality too) is a sum of its decisions and experiences. When you reset the world or do some time travel, as far as i am concerned, the previous incarnation of the characters are worse than dead. They are erased. Permanently and completely lost.
And that pisses me off beyond belief.

Its like if an author pick up the character sheet of a cast i love and toss it on the trash.
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>>159786054
>This dude was clearly too blinded by the homolust to actually pay attention to the episode.
This is bait, but I'll bite anyway.

He doesn't give sexual love (though it is offered); he gives Shinji the acceptance and unconditional love he doesn't get from anyone else. They weren't even subtle about that in 3.0. How and why people still don't get that is beyond me.
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>>159786115
>>159786176
I'm probably the only one, bu I think his relationship with Kaworu is the lazy way of avoiding having a proper resolution to his sour relationship with the girls and his father.
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>>159786265
I agree, but Anno loves timeloops. Especially considering the Manga he based Eva on is chock full of them.
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>>159786265
>series is about eternal souls being reborn
>angry when their eternal souls are reborn

You're supposed to learn something when you reincarnate. As I've said before, each of the characters (except Kaworu notably, who comments on the cycle) seems to have done that.
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>>159786286
I think it's another way of driving the point into Shinji that he's never going to improve if he keeps straying from others and expecting people to give him love and care at no cost.

He didn't try reaching out to Kaworu, and because of that he lost him.
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>>159786345
>and expecting people to give him love and care at no cost.
His mother is constantly trying to bang that it into his fucking skull too, but he's too closed off to get it until the very end.
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>>159786276
Kaworu doesn't give sexual love, but Shinji is definitely sexually attracted to him

He didn't give unconditional love either because he was criticizing him the entire episode in NGE and encouraging him to improve occasionally.
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>>159786375
Exactly.
Throughout all of Shinji's relationships in the series he's being forced to see the same message all over again.
It happened with Rei, Misato, and Asuka.
Even Gendo, Toji, and now Kaworu.
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>>159786253
So basically Kaworu is a plot device but by himself he cannot stand on his own.
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>>159786434
Every character is a plot device.
If a character doesn't affect the plot somehow they're useless.

Kaworu is a minor character, and like most minor characters such as Toji and Kensuke he doesn't stand on his own, no, but that doesn't make them badly written.
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>>159786332
Before the first rebuild, there was ONE event that caused a reborn in the series. And there was no time travel involved, people kept their memories and it was even optional for those who wanted to stay dead.

The rebuilds started all this talk that "eva is a story of repetition time loops bla bla bla".
Since them we got
>3 rebuild movies setting up some big time loop plot.
>The manga ending in a world and memories reset
>anima being an even worse offender.

Also i dont give a shit about they carrying over some basic improvements. You lost the whole main important chunk that led to those improvements. Its like saying someone with Alzheimer's is ok because they still can speak english.
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>>159784019
>Anno is the only person on the staff that seem to support shinji x asuka
>At least he was by EoE era
That's a complete misinterpertration of what Anno was doing.
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>>159786518
Eva was always about alternate realities and worlds, though. Just look at episode 26.
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>>159786491
Well, we don't know anything about Toji and Kensuke and so that explanation makes no sense. Look at Rebuild characters, they completely revolve around Shinji and aren't independent at all.
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>>159786578
99% of this thread is crack shippers trying to reinterpret the bible for their own end.
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>>159786578
>shippers
>understanding Eva
Pick one.
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>>159786608
>>159786629
Good point.
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>>159786607
>we don't know anything about Toji and Kensuke
What do you mean? Of course we do. And they're good characters in their own right.

>they completely revolve around Shinji and aren't independent at all
Yes, but that's not the only reason why they aren't well written. It's because for all the screentime they received we still know hardly anything about them individually.

Take a character like Maya from NGE. We know only a few basic personality traits about her, and yet is she badly written? Not at all. She rarely shows up, and when she does it's usually to spout exposition and whatnot. She's a minor character. She's a good character.

Now expand her screentime to a major character's, say about 15 minutes per episode with those same basic personality traits. Now she's a terrible, badly written character. See what I mean?
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>>159786605
No, that alternate universe was a visualization of what could have been if shinji wasnt so reclusive and accepted people on his life. Thats why during that scene the whole scenario is a theater full of spotlights and microphones. Its an act, imagination running wild.
Its never even remotely implied that they can actually undo the time and do it and erase everyones memories.
If we went the silly route and actually made that the ending (everyone was just acting on the anima, on the rebuilds, on NGE), i would actually like it more than a time travel, because then there is no memory loss, no personality loss. They were just actors having fun.
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>>159786737
You're arguing with people who don't even understand the basics of literature. You might as well be speaking actual runes.
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>>159786808
You're right, anon.
I just wonder what it is about Eva that attracts such a dumb fanbase.
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>>159786911
Shakespeare was written for the masses.

You don't have to be a genius to like something. Though it helps to articulate why you appreciate it.
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>>159786784
I recall Misato saying there's many different worlds and possibilities, not that it's just actors.
The whole episode featured a theater of spotlights, not just that scene.
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>>159786784
>No, that alternate universe was a visualization of what could have been if shinji wasnt so reclusive and accepted people on his life. Thats why during that scene the whole scenario is a theater full of spotlights and microphones. Its an act, imagination running wild.
It's essentially his version of "It's a Wonderful Life". Too bad they cut the live-action bit with Asuka fucking Toji and Misato being an even bigger wreck.
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>>159786911
>>159786808
>Implying that arrogant stance actually helps any possible argument you might have
Arrogance breeds ignorance, and no one takes pretentious people seriously, no matter their arguments.
Behave like normal people, you fucking faggots.
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>>159787121
>Behave like normal people, you fucking faggots.
Where do you think you are?
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>>159787141
Not in "mr goody 2 shoes' book club", thats for sure.
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I want to write an AU where the children are actual child soldiers, but fan fiction is the lowest any author can go.

Decisions, decisions.
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>>159787121
Sorry for hurting your feelings, anon-kun.
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>>159787197
It's literally no different from the many "official" spin offs that arent made by anno.
And might end up being better than the rebuilds, because that bar isnt that high either.
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>>159786383
Not just criticizing, he takes everything Shinji says as pleas for death and being so stupid he accidentally fought for survival. Life and death ultimatums are max level conditional.
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>>159787329
True, I just want to see where it goes. I criticized fan fiction, but I think AU's (when done right) are the best way to capture the essence of a character. You take what makes them "them" and rebuild it.

Plus I want Hikari, Toji, and Kensuke to do something other than sit in the background.
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>>159787383
Kaworu's biggest problem is he assumes everyone wants to die just like him.
Angel logic.
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>>159787427
Asuka in the fight against the Eva Series reminds me of Raiden just going fucking nuts in MGRR.
Child soldiers are interesting.
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>>159774176

>>159757852
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>>159787533
Well consider that Shinji is the third child. That means Rei and Asuka are out there assassinating people on their own before he shows up. Out of the three, he'd have the biggest issue with it.

I mean they're child soldiers as it is, but they don't really think about it because they're killing inhuman monsters (for the most part), not actual people. Shinji would freak the fuck out if he had to kill a prisoner, Asuka would argue with him about it, and Rei would calmly walk up and shoot him in the head.
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Which is the best release of the original series plus NGE?
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>>159787493
It's not a problem for him because he has conviction in it. Even if he's wrong about everyone else he'd still rather die than examine what they have going on, and he stays a compelling character because he's not exactly wrong about it as a solution.
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>>159756921
But why you quote SH here, Samael and Lilith play a way larger role as the Red entities through the whole games and there is an specific reason for why the kids on the games. You will confuse even more.
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>>159744210
wrong
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>>159787911
>he'd still rather die than examine what they have going on
Which is what Shinji tries to do up until EoE.

>because he's not exactly wrong about it as a solution.
Especially considering right after Kaworu sacrifices himself, the lilin end up murdering the fuck out of each other anyway and effectively rid themselves from the planet through instrumentality. Making the whole battle against the angels absolutely pointless.
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>>159787883
Sephirotic
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>>159788006
It's what Shinji tried to do after Kaworu, most strongly between attacking Asuka in instrumentality and deciding to leave it. He spent a lot of time being contemplative and occasionally insightful without deathseeking.
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>>159788325
He looks so girly there
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>>159787997
Rei domming Asuka is hot for some reason.
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>>159787699
Execute a prisoner i dont know, but asuka shown to enjoy the bloodbath of a battlefield in EoE, be it self defense or not.
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>>159787699
>Rei would calmly walk up and shoot him in the head
Does Ikari know them? Is he watching?
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>>159788643
Girly enough to make you... ?
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>>159790316
Yeah, he's watching. No he doesn't know them. They have a mission to complete and they took prisoners to get information. Asuka is ready to shoot them (because where are they going to hold them?), when Shinji tells her not to. He's not used to this, not emotionally. Like in the show, he's new to it all. While he and Asuka are arguing, Rei walks up and shoots the guy in the head without a word.

I'm imagining a very Metal Gear sort of vibe, at least the special forces part of it. NERV is some kind of black ops branch and Misato is their commander. They can work alone, but they're working together on this mission. Maybe it goes full Metal Gear and the angels are bosses with weird powers. Maybe I just keep it simple.
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>>159790704
And if you're wondering how Shinji can just wander into something like this, remember that his parents chose his fate before he could talk. The kids are probably part of a super soldier program. Rei's either an orphan or a clone again - I'm coming up with this on the fly.

I do like the idea that Mari enjoys her knife though. Blood and all.
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>>159744210
I've improved her.
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>>159744210
nah man
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>>159788834
Some anon explained how asuka, despite being aggressive, really want a dominant response from people around her.
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>>159792820
She wants Kaji to fuck her pussy inside out
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>>159744325
technically a loli
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>>159748206
>posting Mei-chan from Love Hina

GTFO
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>>159786808
>>159786737
>implying Kaworu is anything more than a fan service bishonen character in a series with damaged and realistic characters
Kaworu is literally Anno's mind of what his crush on Ikuhara was like. Kaworu is a shit character.
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>>159796474
...
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>>159796474
>responding hours after you got BTFO without responding to any of my points
Kaworu is a fantastic character and objectively best boy.
Deal with it, homo.
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