Dragon Ball Super

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Why is he so perfect?

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If you could discuss one topic of Dragonball Super without baits, ruses, reprisals, insults, jokes, vitriol, cynicism, memes, slurs, or anything not conducive to the discussion at hand:


What topic would you really want to discuss wholeheartedly?

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dragon ball super is going to be live tonight. rather then trying to find a stream 5 minutes before it actually starts, and getting a fake stream or a stream that is taking down in 32 seconds of starting, lets find one NOW that will stay up so we dont have to worry later

>>159532053
How autistic do you have to be to notice this, the one with bergamo i get but this one is just too much.

>>159531697
he means post more Cus

>>159531850
How we can remove tripfagging from the threads.

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>>159532053
That Vados looks a bit off

>>159531850
Why Caulifla is a microcosm for everything wrong with Super.

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>>159531697
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

>>159532182
Explain further

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>>159532182

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>>159531697

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>>159531957

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"""Finished""" my low poly Zamasu, first project ever and i am quite happy about it except i fucked up the potaras color and forgot to connect his skirt or whatever that is in the middle lmao. Thoughts?

come on guys we need dragon ball super stream. a reliable one

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>>159525365
That's because Kid Trunks owns the console

Which old technique will Piccolo use next?

how mutch hours untill the ep?

>>159531978
no episode today

>>159532349
it usually streams at 8 or 830 but they are to slow getting it up once its up its 480p and takes a few hours for 1080p. makes no sense. at least this is my opinion

>>159532317
Oops, meant for >>159530986

>>159532335
The "shield Jobhan" technique.

>>159532376
Yeah, some holidays in Japan.

>>159532269
>>159532349
see:>>159532376

>>159532376
>>159532416
prove it please

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>wake me up
>wake me up inside
>I can't wake up

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What a bitch

>>159532405
I thought he already used that in the RoF arc.

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So why do people argue SS2 is stronger than LSS?

Gohanfags particularly seem to imply that if Gohan went SS2 he'd do to Broly what he did to Bojack and kill him in one blow.

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>>159532335
>>159532405

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>>159531957
Forgot the Justice Flash

>>159532548
This is embarassing

still looking for a good stream to share with you guys. you deserve it instead of a fake troll stream

>>159532525
We would though. Broly wasn't even that strong. Super Perfect Cell would have probably kicked his shit in.

>>159532607
There are several on youtube.

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*blocks your stream*

>>159532607
Don't share stream links

>>159532607
I'm 100% sure some Crunchyroll shill lurks these threads and reports every stream that's posted. If you have a good stream keep it to yourself and let other find it on their own.

>>159532605
Toei must limit costs :^)

>>159532655
they get shut down to fast.

>>159532668
id want someone to share them with me. it sucks wanting to watch and waiting for it to hit nyaa it takes to long

>>159532607
sent ;)

>>159532349
A week

>>159532658
>toei
toei doesn't give a shit about streams
plebbitfags that use crunchyroll are the ones killing the streams

>>159532709
See
>>159532680

>>159532709
nice try crunchyshill

>>159532630
>not that strong
He's one of the few villians to barely even register when a main cast enemy punched or kicked him. Bojack, P. Cell all of them would be knocked back or at least visibly show damage when hit. Not to mention Broly took a head on kamehameha that evaporated Cell and didnt even flinch.

>>159532266
>Thoughts?

Yeah, I think you should go back to a certain site that rhymes with Edit.

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>>159532266
Looks pretty good for a first project anon

>>159532605
Thats not embarassing, that's just to be expected from Toei at this point.

What's embarassing is those first few episodes of Super.

At this point in time, anyone being surprised at the low quality and shit production and their garbage plot is just plain old stupid wearing their nostalgia goggles. Then they'll forget about it and move on to the next episode.

>>159532680
I really wonder what do they really accomplish by doing this

Has Goku become retarded? INMn Battle of Gods he believed that Beerus wasn't evil when he obviously is evil. DB/DBZ Goku wouldn't have been that dumb.

>>159531761
He looks like a cross between Rex Raptor and Mokuba

>>159532218
Like I said, Caulifla is essentially all the bad traits and tendencies of Super rolled into one character and amped to 11.

1) She gained SSJ, and likely a higher form soon, without earning it. In Caulifla's case, she didn't train for it (aside from 'back tingles') and she wasn't even enraged. It devalues the monumental effort and/or anger that Goku, Vegata, and Gohan needed to achieve SSJ forms. This is actually somewhat common in Super since any semblance of series' consistency is tossed aside for what's seemingly marketable.

2) Super tends to lack the tension of DBZ because the characters don't take threats seriously. Caulifla embodies that trait by not even taking the potential erasure of her entire universe seriously. She has to be convinced to join the tournament, initially stating that she doesn't care. At this point, do any of the main characters in Super care?

3) Her character is one-dimensional and lacks any development at all. She is essentially a caricature at this point. She doesn't suffer, doesn't have any real challenges that can't be easily overcome. This is also common for the show itself, albeit to a lesser degree.


>>159532229
I still don't understand this meme. What's the connection between Gohan and Caulifla?

>>159532914
They want people to use and pay for their shitty service.

>>159532548
I dont think this tournament will be more than 20 episodes. I really dont.

Krillin already out. a universe already out, etc.

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>>159532753
>Not a single attack in Super has had this much weight behind it.
Yeah the attacks in DBS feel weak as fuck. The only one that feels pretty stronger off the top of my head is Buu's Kamehameha. Toei used to be pretty decent in that regard.

>>159532817
broly with a zenkai got his shit pushed in by a weak Gohan and Goten, a peak SS2 Gohan would fuck him up and S P.Cell is over kill because he has better techniques, Zenkai and regen

>>159532266
Looks good.

What's the final poly count?

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I don't want her to get erased

>>159532931
Fucking this, holy shit.

>>159532965
Toei will try to drag it out as much as possible just like the recruitment episodes. Each U7 character will have their own episodes, just like Krillin.

>>159533068
fucking furfags

>>159533068
Don't you worry, she'll get revived when Goku wins Super Dragon Balls.

>>159532931
>What's the connection between Gohan and Caulifla
gohanfags are specially assblasted over this >>159532931
>It devalues the monumental effort and/or anger that Goku, Vegata, and Gohan needed to achieve SSJ forms
and i hope they commit mass suicide once she goes blue

Frost is the second strongest person in Universe 6 until Kale goes berserk and Caulifla goes SSJ2, yes?

Why is he living his life as a hobo

>>159532931
Which is why I believe Caulifla is going to be fodder in the ToP. She'll be forgotten right after the tournament ends.

>>159533116
I referenced Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan, not just Gohan. Do you not care about SSJ being devalued?

>>159533081
>Each U7 character will have their own episodes, just like Krillin.
There are only 10 members. We can leave out Vegeta, Goku, and Frieza cause we know that they will get enough focus.

I really dont see them giving Tien, Piccolo, 18/17 (I bet they'll packagethem and not get a seperate episode), Roshi more than an episode. That's 5 episodes at best.

>>159533133
Not even SS Cabba tier.

>>159532931
>still treating SSJ as some mystical special transformation when goten and trunks did it just because and got SSJ3 after seeing it once

>>159533104
Only for catgirl

>>159533133
he has every single saiyan to deal with, and now that they've discovered super saiyan its probably going to end up spreading like wildfire.

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Reminder

Goten,Trunks and Gotenks

Hybrid Saiyans which are stated to be stronger than regular Saiyans
Achieved Super Saiyan by themselves
Trained in the RoTaS
Saw Goku transform into SS3 against Buu
Motivated by the deaths of Vegeta(Trunks' father) Gohan (Goten's brother) Chi Chi(Goten's mother)
Fusion


Caulifla

Normal Saiyan
Didn't know about Super Saiyan until Cabba told her
Trained in some rocky wasteland
Just became Super Saiyan doesn't even know about SS2 and the later stages
Motivated by eh

>>159533186
When Hit fights Frost he says he actually had to try a little. Hit beat Vegeta without trying. Vegeta curbstomped Cabba.

this stream works
http://play.fujitv.live/tvplayer/index.html#reload

control f search
フジテレビ

>>159533174
it already happened before with goten and trunks
the buu arc also devaluated ssj3 with gotenks obtaining it
giving ssj2 to one of the fem saiyans at this point is nothing since ssj2 is worthless

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>>159532525
How about an LSSJ2

>>159533241
Reminder that Saiyans evolved differently in U6.

>>159532971
If i remember correctly around 4k

>>159533107
And so will some other universe that Zen-O had erased eons earlier. And it contains some sort of ultimate evil that could even rival the power of Zen-O. And so Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan team up with top fighters across the multiverse to take it down.

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>krillin not even getting paired up with his wife anymore

>>159533344
Nice headcanon

>>159533326
>no lightning
Lazily designed card

>>159533295
I have my issues with the Buu arc in general as well. However, it still had a lot of tension after the initial comedy segments, and was far better than what we've seen from Super, unfortunately.

>>159533292
demo only tho. got to sign up. wonder how long it will let me watch? hopefully i can watch super

>>159533226
>Frost trains for 2 days
Super saiyan isnt worth shit now. It hasnt since Buu saga.

Goten, Caulifla, Cabba showcase this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOlToLUBSBU

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>>159532931
What's your opinion on the Future Trunks arc?

>>159533241
>>159533344
U6 saiyans simply benefited from powercreep. Had they been introduced in Cell saga, they'd be weaker than Goku and co still.

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>no Tenshinhan

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>>159533478

>>159532931
>>159533078
>>159533156
Can't wait for Cauli to achieve SSB before Gohan. All you faggots will be crying and I'll be basking in the salt.

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>>159533478
at least Gohan jobbed to him

You guys remember when Piccolo metaphorically sucked Vegeta's cock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V5VaKLA3fQ

>>159533381
They lost their tails long ago, as stated by Cabba.

>>159533472
It's the only one I've really enjoyed. I want more arcs like that.

>>159533516
Delet

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>>159533516

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>>159533530
>All you faggots will be crying
Nah I'll just be laughing at how shitty DBS is

>>159533530
Gohan is going down a different path, as stated in the series. He isn't going Blue at all. Either Ultimate gets more powerful, or he has another manifestation of Blue since he's not a full blooded Saiyan. Just a theory though. Ultimately this is Goku's show and we all know it.

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>>159532931
>Her character is one-dimensional and lacks any development at all.
This has to be bait. You're a genuine fucking retard if you actually take what you just said seriously. She made her debut, like, 10 episodes ago. What development is she supposed to get in such a short amount of time?

>>159533530
Faslseflag as fuck.

But she aint getting SSB.

>>159533478
He's going to be the first one out but I'm still praying he'll take down a jobber or two before he goes down

wait a minute, I could've sworn there was a time limit to wishing people back to life, like you can't wish people back if they've been dead for a year or something. But Freeza was wished back to life

>>159533691
Being a Tenshinhan fan is suffering.

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Legit question!

How come nobody is complaining about this:
It's already bean established that Universe 7 is superior to Universe 6 because they beat them at the tournament (which was supervised by Zeno sama himself), and U7's Hakaishin is stronger than U6's Hakaishin.
Now what kind of mental gymnastic should I use to reach a conclusion that U6 is above U7.
>Toei animations as it's finest

>>159533646
What development can she get when she's been presented as a Mary Sue? I'm expecting more 'back tingles' level of "development."

>>159533516
There should be Tenshinhan fighting Buu while Kame-sennin is a chocolate here too.

>>159533720
he's still dead

>>159533560
You don't like the current arc why?

>>159533618
I don't laugh. I will probably never get another film without Beerus and the Super shit. A possible future series would probably also not be without the Super shit. This upsets me.

>>159533739
They only "beat" Universe 6 because of Hit forfeiting the match against Monaka on purpose.

>>159533739
rankings aren't based off of fighting power

fake posts all you want
but i still got my stream and got the word out
:)

Hakai

>>159533720
he wasnt wished back. baba can just bring people back for a time

>>159533720
that was retconned for Revival of F, and this time they're just using the Super Dragon Balls anyway

>>159533739
Rankings are only based on mortal levels, not power levels.

>>159533720
Grandpa Gohan also came back after being dead for years.

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>>159533720

>>159533807
Zero tension + extremely slow buildup to the tournament + boring battle royal format + Goku acting like a total retard

>>159533720
>>159533876
They weren't brought back to life nor where the dragon balls used.

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>>159533720
Shen long couldn't restore him fully because of that

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>>159533560
Yeah, same

>>159533942
>>159533851
>>159533784
I know that dummies, I'm talking about RoF

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>>159531697
Say something nice to him

>>159533949
thats wrong tho, the reason he couldn't restore his body and only bring him back in pieces is because Frieza died from the KI blast and not the cuts, he could literally survive as an eye which is fucking retarded.

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>>159532147
>post more Cus

>>159533884
>Zero tension
>Goku acting like a total retard
Eh both of these are true for the previous arc as well.

>>159533997
He just wonders what the rest of his life is up to

In all honesty I'd probably like the U6 saiyans more if they had tails.

>>159534068
Or you know

Cell

Buu

etc.

>>159534047
>the reason he couldn't restore his body and only bring him back in pieces is because Frieza died from the KI blast and not the cuts,
Wrong, he says right in that pic that time was the problem.

>>159533884
>extremely slow buildup to the tournament

nigger there was 13 episodes between the exhibition match and the actual tournament, eat shit. Didn't everyone fucking complain that the Zamasu arc ended way too quickly? Isn't this a sequel to a series where everyone complained about fucking glacial pacing?

>>159533997
You will soon be free


The very fact that none of the angels are in danger of being erased when they are just as culpable should have you guys suspicious of their motives.

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>>159534047
>wacky alien from outer space can survive hits that would kill humans
wow that's fucking stupid

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>>159534087
At least there's always fan art.

>>159534097
>Cell
>Buu
>etc
Not really.

>>159534097
There has never been tension when a reset button in the dragon balls, especially when the "rules" governing the dragon balls were always rewritten whenever it was convenient

the only time there were actual consequences to a villain's rampage was in the Zamasu arc

>>159534117
bad translation

>>159534155
I mean whats the point of surviving as an eye without a body? no brain either how does that even work?

>>159534097
>oops I forgot the Senzu Beans
>oops I forgot the Urn in the time machine
>oops I forgot the Seal at Kame house
Fuck off DBS shill

>>159534222
>bad translation
No it's not.

>>159534144
GoD shit isn't their job. They train and tend to the gods, enabling them to do their business, but if the angels were going to step in and do it for them then there'd be no reason having the Gods of Destruction in the first place.

>>159534180
There is literally a whole extra set of Dragon Balls lying around in those sagas just waiting to be used. A set that WAS used back in Buu.

Don't pretend that the tension there was ever that high.

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>>159533997

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O MY EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE NOT SSB TRANSFORMATION, WHICH FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T ACTIVATE DURING THE ENTIRE YEAR I SPENT FIGHTING BLACK WHERE HUMANITY WAS BROUGHT TO IT'S KNEES YET AGAIN OR WHEN MY MOTHER AND WAIFU(SEEMINGLY) DIED

>>159532931
Pan got the transformation in the fucking womb.

If that didn't tip you off that the transformation isn't special anymore I don't know what to tell you.

>>159534227
>oops i gave cell a senzu bean
>oops i didn't kill buu with ssj3 so the kids could have a crack at it
>oops i didnt take my medicine for my fatal heart virus

>>159533949
What if a second wish was spent, now to glue the pieces back into one body?

>>159534227
>Stop Gero? But I wanna fight strong guys!
>Stop Cell? But I wanna prove I'm the strongest!
>Hey Cell, SENZU BEAN!
>Beat Buu? Nah the kids can do it.
etc.

>>159534337
still less retarded than muh healing powers and Goku magically knowing hakai when he never saw the attack being used in the manga

>>159534337
*teleports behind you*
Kiero

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O MY SWORD OF FRIENDSHIP

>>159534341
>Pan got the transformation in the fucking womb.
nice headcanon

>>159534068
There was a lot of tension in the Future Trunks saga, and while Goku has acted fairly retarded throughout all of Super, he wasn't really the focus on Future Trunks saga so it wasn't as bad.

>>159534097
Bullshit.

>>159534371
They could have done that.

Then Shu wished for money.

>>159531850
did this faggot ever apologise for being a cunt about 6 hours ago?

Literally all I want is for Freeza to start shit talking somebody from another universe and have them say something along the lines of "if you were as strong as you think you are, you wouldn't be dead."

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O MY ABILITY TO MERGE WITH THE UNIVERSE OUT OF NOWHERE DESPITE MY BODY BEING DESTROYED

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I really don't want to hate on Super, I started with the movies and watched until Black. But this show is just bad.

I do recognize that Toriyama is a shounen grand master but Oda and Kishimoto have surpassed him.

>>159534389
Hope
Its Sword of Hope

>>159534341
Except that never happened.

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>>159534389
Even Dimps can write better than Toei.

>>159534447
>frieza chimps out
>drains all his energy in one minute

its gonna happen

>>159534476
But Naruto is trash.

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10 minutes

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>>159533241
can't wait till califlower and her sister fuse during ToP. you just know it's gonna happen

>>159534449
You were already blown the fuck out on this.
>reminder immortal soul not just immortal body

Isn't having Freeza cheating? It's established that when you're dead you have way more energy and stamina compared to your living self, it's an artificial boost

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>>159534373
>this is what toeishills believe

>>159534643
They have cyborgs with limitless Ki.

You tell me.

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Why is it that Tenchadhan and Chadcha get bullied the most? Is it because Toriyama is a nerd?

>>159534403

Yeah I'm sure videl turned Super Saiyan all on her own.

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>Female Goku
>Perfect opportunity for regularly-proportioned muscle girl
>Get a twig and a Broly-proportioned Broly instead
It hurts. I just want to see a nice two-pack.

>>159534476
Stop posting the same fucking thing. I hope the mods ban you for 30 fucking days until you learn to stop spamming. The same goes to >>159533739.

>>159534752
>chadcha, clunky and unnatural to say
>not yamchad. which rolls off smooth and easily

retard

>>159534544
he's dead

>>159534647
It's true though. They're both asspulls, but at least the sword of hope is something thematically interesting in that it's the collective spirit or mortals relying on each other to overcome the strength of the narcissistic God who refused to rely on anyone but himself

Goku pulling out Hakai is mega bullshit, esp considering Goku has never even seen it before and we're not even given any indication he even knows that ability exists before that panel, and Goku pulling that move out of his ass has no purpose besides "dude Goku needs a new ability lmao"

>>159534821
Chad posters are retards, what did you expect?

>>159534415
>Bullshit.
Namek's Dragon Balls.

>>159534864
>at least the sword of hope is something thematically interesting
not really

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>>159534813
>two-pack
What are you, a homo?

>>159534352
>oops i gave cell a senzu bean
Yeah because Goku knew Gohan was strong enough to beat Cell how is this comparable to being a retard and forgetting something he needs to win three times in row?

>oops i didn't kill buu with ssj3 so the kids could have a crack at it
And? Goku was dead, he wanted to make sure that someone around the protect the Earth in his protect, again how is that comparable to knowing he needs something but keeps on forgetting it because of his incompetent?

>oops i didnt take my medicine for my fatal heart virus
Looks like you're the retard here, Trunks said to take the medicine after he the symptoms appear.

>>159534372
>Stop Gero? But I wanna fight strong guys!
>Stop Cell? But I wanna prove I'm the strongest!
What? Goku couldn't beat Cell retard that's why Gohan had to fight him.

None of these are on par with Zamasu saga Goku try again.

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>All these posts about U7 fighters
>when Smugpup is going to make all of U7 bar Goku his bitch

>>159534864
>Goku pulling out Hakai is mega bullshit, esp considering Goku has never even seen it before
Goku's line, "Sorry for calling this a dangerous move, Beerus-sama!" implies he has seen it before but off-screen and will be touched upon in the next volume.

>>159534964
not an argument Zshill

>>159534864
>but at least the sword of hope is something thematically interesting
Buu saga rip off that fail anyway. Yeah really interesting.

Goku is God of Destruction candidate so using Hakai, he's Beerus and Whis so has had more opportunities to see it and has always had a
exceptional ability to take on people's move.


Future Trunks has never even seen the Genki Dama yet he somehow unknowingly and he does without the consent of the Earthling something was
needed for the regular Genki Dama, somehow Ki of a nearly wiped out Earth is able to defeat a being that tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto.
Remender that SSG is Universe tier while holding back.


These are two are in no way comparable, sorry.

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>>159534954
There's nothing that looks better than some nicely toned abs, and (unlike feet) they actually translate really well into 2D.
6 packs on women make me think of steroids and the Auschwitz diet that muscle builders put themselves on before a competition, not health.

>>159534994
>no argument
wew
Go waku waku somewhere else faggot.

>>159534752
>Yamcha
>A chad
>Only been in one relationship and got dumped. Might not have even gotten laid

I mean, at least Tien has had two girls throw themselves at him even though he showed no interest.

>>159534831
pretty sure he can still lose his stamina

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>>159534631
>reminder immortal soul not just immortal body
Wrong retard.

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>>159535104
>I like muscular women but not when they're actually muscular
Pleb

>>159535123
>In a relationship with Bulma
>Didn't get laid
Literally impossible

>Cuckgeta ISN'T Yamcha's sloppy seconds
Literally impossible

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>>159534864
>MUH THEMATICS
Again toeishills? Asspulls aren't justified

>>159535174
That was not his wish, I can just repost the thread where you stopped replying to me because you had no evidence.
>>159438596

>>159535215
We're talking about Yamcha, it's absolutely possible

>>159535193
0% body fat doesn't look attractive on anyone.

>>159531697
He wants you to put it right here. Right in the dingleberry.

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>>159534415
>There was a lot of tension in the Future Trunks saga
Sure

>>159534964
>Yeah because Goku knew Gohan was strong enough to beat Cell how is this comparable to being a retard and forgetting something he needs to win three times in row?
Gohan didn't beat Cell on his own though. Gohan wasn't strong enough to beat him without transforming, and after he did, Gohan chose to make Cell suffer rather than end it.

Goku LITERALLY had to keep pushing Gohan, hold his hand the whole way. Piccolo was fucking right.

>Goku was dead, he wanted to make sure that someone around the protect the Earth in his protect
He gambled on the next generation, and they fucked up royally. Every time. Similarly, he didn't beat Vegeta with Super Saiyan 3 IN SPITE OF knowing prolonging the fight would release Buu. And don't try to excuse it as trying not to hurt Vegeta's pride, Vegeta chews him out for NOT using Super Saiyan 3 against him.

>Goku couldn't beat Cell retard that's why Gohan had to fight him.
Vegeta.

You didn't even answer leaving Gero alone.

You also royally misremember what happened or seem to want to place the blame on Goku alone when in the anime it was Roshi who didn't give Goku the seal. In the manga, Goku remembered the Senzu Beans and only grabbed the wrong envelope.

>>159535250
>That was not his wish
We don't see him making his wish retard but during the entire arc he refers to it as immortal body nowhere is "soul" mentioned apart from your headcanon. Take that L

Why is there always this one (it's one guy, I know it) who keeps reposting the same pictures, shitty arguments and bait?

>>159535291
Explain.

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>>159535264
The question is whether Yamcha's I'm-based-on-someone-who-took-the-author's-lunch-money-ness outweighs Vegeta's proclivity for getting cucked. Truly a question which this thread is uniquely equipped to answer.

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Zenos PL is infinite.

Daishinkans is unknown.

>>159535366
That is not evidence that his wish was for an "immortal body" nor that the wording would have any effect on an immortality wish.

You are objectively invalid because you have no means to prove your headcanon (which is contradicted by the show)

the problem is and will always be powercreep
>first arc of db have goku beat evil king and become a student under the best martial artist of the world
>next we have a tournament to see if goku surpasses his master
>after that lets have goku beat an evil organization that wants to take over the world
>what now? oh yeah lets have goku beat a rival school in a tournament
this is the peak after this its all balant powercreep
>lets have goku beat satan
>oh wait he has a more powerful son and he seeks revenge
>lets have goku train under god to beat him
>timeskip
>now goku has a son and a brother
>lets explain where his power comes from, he's a fucking alien and also piccolo is a alien too now
>the boss of gokus brothers friends seek the db's now for immortality
>now goku is a super alien
>oh shit what can i do now?
>oh i know some survivors of the evil organization want revenge and fuck it timetravel too
>they have robots and a bugman
>gokus son is now a super alien 2
>goku dies because his son is a retard
>what now? oh yeah some wizard made a evil being thats indestructible
>goku is now a super alien 3
>timeskip because i want to end this shit
>goku wants a student that is also the reincarnation of the evil being
>the end (until some gajin retard make a shitty western adaptation and i have make up some other bullshit because the adaptation was dogshit)
>super shitty sequel
>goku is now a farmer, some god appears and there's now a multiverse
>goku is now a super alien god because fuck it
>gokus brothers boss revives and wants revenge
>lets have a tournament between 2 universes
>oh there's now a god of everything
>timetravel again because fuck it and there is also a evil goku clone with pink hair
>god of everything wants to do a tournament between all universes
we are here now

>>159533326
so what is the multiplier for lss? seems like no one can really figure it out.

>>159535401
>yfw it's ∞+1

>>159535401
Any other cards like this? I want to see Goku's PL.

How hard will Vegeta job this episode?

>>159535401
So his weakness is a ningen with a pl of zero.

>>159532176
seconded

>>159534426
>black-star
more like always

>>159535692
After Gohan jobs to Caulifla, Vegeta will get stomped by the Teletubby

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>>159535780

>>159534821
I didn't think of that. Thanks anon.

>>159534876
Love you too

>>159535351
>vegeta
>the guy who ignored Trunks and allowed Cell to become complete and had his FF tanked
>the guy who then chimped out and gimped the hand of the only person there who wouldn't die instantly during the fight with cell
>this is an answer
nani

Goku using Hakai Is the biggest bullshit of the series, comparable to Caulifla's SS transformation because both of this Moments destroys some concepts ( Goku/Gohan/Vegeta/FTrunks and even Cabba's first time they became a super Saiyan, and the concept of the GoD, its balance life & Death balance with the kaioshins and rank between deities)

The Spirit Sword, while being just another "The power of friendship" asspull bullshit, is more tolerable.

>>159535269
0% body fat doesn't exist though

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>>159535351
>Gohan wasn't strong enough to beat him without transforming,
and that's exactly what Goku planned and when he transformed he kicked Cell's ass. Hell before he transformed he was already doing better than Goku.

>Piccolo was fucking right.
Nope. Pic related.

>He gambled on the next generation, and they fucked up royally.
Yeah because Goku can see the future right?

>Similarly, he didn't beat Vegeta with Super Saiyan 3 IN SPITE OF knowing prolonging the fight would release Buu.
He trusted Gohan with the task of stopping Buu and if he transformed into Super Saiyan 3 it would have reduced his time on Earth.

>don't try to excuse it as trying not to hurt Vegeta's pride,
Wrong see above, read the manga.

>Vegeta.
?

>You didn't even answer leaving Gero alone
This wasn't even Goku alone everyone but Bulma agreed they wanted to fight the Androids and it's not like they went home and chilled out for all those years, they spend all their time training just to fight those Androids. A bad decision sure but not incompetence where he WANTED to bring the Senzu beans, Urn and the Seal couldn't because he was too retarded to remember.

>You also royally misremember what happened or seem to want to place the blame on Goku alone when in the anime it was Roshi who didn't give Goku the seal.
Stop damage controlling Goku knew what he was up against he lost to Black and Zamasu twice he knew how important it was, Roshi did not.

Again none of these are on par with Zamasu saga Goku try again.

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>>159535951
They get pretty close to it for bikini competitions.

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Final version of my story:

>>159531697
>U6's Earth was destroyed due to pointless wars
>Or at least that's the official version
>In reality Champa sent Frost to get rid of Earth for him
>Before the humans were forced into early extinction some Earthlings sent a human child to the Saiyan planet to survive
>The parents intended to go too but were wiped out before they could make it
>The Earthling Pod lands on the Saiyan Planet
>The little boy grew up and was taken in by the warrior race
>He was popular and considered exotic with the women because he didn't have a tail and wasn't threatening
>He accidentally created a harem of Saiyan females through a series of unfortunate events
>Never really wanted a harem, reluctantly got dragged into it by all the cute girls around him
>Tries to always be polite, is easily embarrassed, and not very muscular; basically, the opposite of most brawny male Saiyans
>the females want him more because of this
>He couldn't actually fight and had no combat experience
>But through his erotic mastery of human sex and by using positions other than Saiyan-doggy-style he earned his keep
>His monkey harem to protected him and after a long and hard fight he was crowned King after satisfying the Queen of all Saiyans
>Fast forward a couple hundred years
>U6's Saiyan race are all half-Earthlings and half-Saiyans
>This new hybrid breed was shown to have an incredible power level and huge potential compared to pure blooded Saiyans
>The women all flocked to the Earthling for children and a stronger race
>as a byproduct most new, U6 Saiyans are sticks and lack the bulky muscles they once held
>That one, lone human survivor repopulated his entire race with the mighty ningen D
>His descendant is the current King of all Saiyans that was foreshadowed by Cabba
>Turns out that the lone human survivor of U6's destroyed Earth was a parallel version of Krillin
And that's the story of why U6 Saiyans no longer have a tail and can easily go SS.

>>159535417
>That is not evidence that his wish was for an "immortal body"
You have no evidence for your "immortal soul"
Immortal body was stated in show unlike you're shit headcanon.

>>159536091
I don't have to prove anything.
A wish for immortality would prevent him from dying even when losing his body.
He came back even when he lost his body, contradicting you.

Meanwhile, you said that he wished specifically for an "immortal body" but there's no evidence that he wished specifically for that, and since he came back with his body destroyed, it's more likely it was just straight up immortality.

The burden of proof is on you, since there's no evidence that his wish added "body" to the end of it, I have no reason to listen to you.

Reminder that Black and Zamasu fusing in the anime was stupid, as Merged Zamasu they lost both Future Zamasu's immortally and Black's retarded Toei Zenkai.
Black's clones were totally capable of dealing with Goku and Vegeta at the same time, and the heroes had no way of using the Mafuba again. They fucked themselves over.

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>>159536203
>I don't have to prove anything.
>no argument
Welp

>He came back even when he lost his body, contradicting you.
Yeah an ass pull no one is saying it isn't.

>>159536236
Yeah, that was really fucking retarded.
Why the hell did they need to fuse if Goku Black could shit out other blacks from a random dimension with his asspull powers?

>>159535221
I get the vapes whenever I look at Jiren

Why didn't Goku use Kaioken when Black taunted him with the death of Goten and Chi Chi?

>>159531697

Was there any explanation for why Goku changed his gi from red to turquoise? I actually like his GT outfit a little

>>159536368
Saving his energy

>>159536368
Because it isn't canon

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>>159536317
>I have no argument
That is a non-argument, I used a logical debating method to null your "argument" because there's nothing going for it.
>Yeah an ass pull no one is saying it isn't.
It contradicts "immortal body" and replaces it with "immortal", which contradicts you.

>Narutoningen Toyofaggot debating skills

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>>159536416
>That is a non-argument, I used a logical debating method
No you didn't, you pretty much say I don't have to prove anything. Meaning you have no argument.

>It contradicts "immortal body" and replaces it with "immortal", which contradicts you.
Nope, it contradicts Zamasu losing his immortal when he fused with Black and then he's immortal again when his body is destroy. Bad writing, asspull all that jazz.

Since when does being immortal grant you the power to fuse with the Universe?

>>159536557
>having and argument

For what reason?

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>>159535247
Yeah dude, rock on!

Character development!

>Toyocucks will defend this to the grave

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>>159532931
>Gohanfags are THIS assblasted

>>159536368
Because he was distressed and the point of him using kaioken with SSB is because anime SSB is based around perfect ki control. Him using Kaioken when he was flaring up his ki in SSB could have killed him.
That said, he had plenty other opportunities to use SSBKK in that arc, all of them wasted.

>>159536557
>No you didn't, you pretty much say I don't have to prove anything. Meaning you have no argument.
I said that your argument doesn't have any proof that Zamasu's wish was for an "immortal body" and you cannot prove it, thus I have no reason to prove anything because you can't prove anything to begin with. The show contradicts you.
>pic
Vegito is not one to decide whether Zamasu is immortal or not, he's a ningen. Zamasu losing anything upon death is your headcanon as far as we are concerned.
Zamasu came back from his body's destruction, thus he is immortal, which is perfectly in line with wishing for immortality.

Gohan in RoF:
>Gets his ass kicked by Freeza
>Piccolo fucking dies infront of him to save his life
>Learns he needs to train to protect his family, asks Piccolo to train him

Tournament arc:
>Gohan is SHOWN training with Piccolo
>Wants to compete in the tournament but can't because he has a conference
>Is into his training but balances it with his responsibilities

Black arc:
>Suddenly isn't a marital artist anymore despite what happened before
>Doesn't know about Black immediately because he was busy at work or whatever
>Feels bad and goes extra hard training with Piccolo
>Is even shown in his ultimate form at the end for no reason, I guess to imply how well his training is going

Universal Tournament arc:
>Suddenly hasn't been fighting in forever
>Doesn't train anymore
>Doesn't want to compete in the tournament
>Apparently hasn't trained with Piccolo in forever
>is rusty and gets shit on by everyone

>>159536668
upon fusing*
And that is specifically because they never mentioned the zenkai being lost (in fact he powered up, blew Vegito away and beat him in an exchange of blows right after, which is a lot like Black's zenkai, but that's just a headcanon), he was incapable of healing certain injuries but he still couldn't die.

>>159536618
Since when does being anonymous grant you the power to be a fucking idiot?

>>159532969
Why does One Piece get to have blood but DBS can't despite being on the same block?

>>159536713
b-but muh bang!!!

>>159536618
Reminder that there is a single Toyopedro in these threads that cannot argue so he has to resort to strawmen and logical fallacies which get him nowhere.
He also fails at arguing because he isn't convincing anybody in the crowd.

>>159536668
>I said that your argument doesn't have any proof that Zamasu's wish was for an "immortal body"
see >>159535174 and >>159535366
>We don't see him making his wish retard but during the entire arc he refers to it as immortal body nowhere is "soul" mentioned apart from your headcanon. Take that L


>Vegito is not one to decide whether Zamasu is immortal or not, he's a ningen
Good thing he's not the only one that said it Gowasu also stated this and how it's pretty clear by the fact that Merged Zamasu wasn't able to heal from Goku's Kamehameha. So he wasn't immortal anymore deal with it.

>Zamasu came back from his body's destruction, thus he is immortal
Just an asspull

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d-do you still like me, /a/?

>>159536713
gohan is stakesfag
he doesn't train unless there are some stakes

>>159533241
It's weird how Vegeta looked like he was 15 when he first got to Earth and by the time he got to Namek, he looked 30.

>>159536767
He was winded, you could explain it away with sweat and being a half saiyan you mongrel, manga is better

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>>159536854
>uguu
no

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>>159536854
get lost!

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>>159536853
>>159535174
Is not the moment he made the wish, he made a comment about an immortal body, that is not a quote of his wish therefor you cannot prove that it was his wish.
>>159535366
The show contradicts you.
>Good thing he's not the only one that said it Gowasu also stated this and how it's pretty clear by the fact that Merged Zamasu wasn't able to heal from Goku's Kamehameha. So he wasn't immortal anymore deal with it.
And they were proven wrong once Zamasu returned from losing his body.
>Just an asspull
Just a non-argument.

>>159536729
>>159536787
So no reason then? Ok

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>>159536877
>toyocuck
>gohanfag

>>159535123
>>159535264

Remember in Dragon Ball when Yamcha's fangirls followed him to his house (which was actually Bulma's)? How about the (potentially untrue judging from his personality) fact that Future Bulma told Future Trunks that she left Yamcha because he wasn't faithful?

which will be the second universe to be destroyed?

>>159536948
Have you taken emotional damage yet? You seem to be getting desperate.

>>159536961
universes are losing in order of degeneracy. First was furries.

Next will be the tumblrinas

>>159536953
>tumblr
>manga is already better because Gohan has never made an appearance in the cluster fuck that was the Trunks arc
checkmate toeicuck

>>159536961
u6

>>159536961
6 and 11 are staying in for a while

probably a gimmick team like 3 or 10

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Will they try to mesh Super into GT story?

>>159536944
>Is not the moment he made the wish, he made a comment about an immortal body,
Which implies the nature of his immortal, hell when asking Black if he was want to be immortal he said immortal body again. Take that L.

>The show contradicts you.
Yeah I know, the show contradicts itself many times, again asspull, bad writing etc
>And they were proven wrong once Zamasu returned from losing his body.
See above.

>Just a non-argument.
Nah just a fact.

>>159537052
>pilaf gang are kids
gt is already in the trash where it belongs

>>159536854
Is Kale the only saiyan with pupils?

>>159532098
Toeishill can't handle that his anime has flaws

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>>159537070
>Which implies the nature of his immortal, hell when asking Black if he was want to be immortal he said immortal body again. I suck cock.
It implies one nature of his immortality, however, immortality is just the ability not to die and it was weakened when he fused, but not gotten rid of as he returned from losing his body. The quote does not prove anything because it was not his wish, therefor it is not proof that he wished for an "immortal body" specifically.
>Yeah I know, the show contradicts itself many times, again asspull, bad writing etc
No, you cannot prove that he wished for an immortal body.
>See above.
The show contradicts you, no matter what you think, Zamasu is immortal because he could not die, even when he was removed from his body.
>Nah, I suck cock.

Any day now...

>>159537104
>they wish to become older
>dragon takes it too far
well there you go. Add that with an excuse for God ki to vanish, Beerus and Whis leave and have Kibitoshin become a thing once more and GT could be considered canon with Super.

>>159537268
not happening pedro

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>>159537009
>toeishill meme'd himself into a corner
>admit the manga is better because there's no Gohan or admit the anime is shit and an inconsistent mess for including a character he hates among other reasons.
wew

>>159537268
They arent going to "mesh" with GT.

The entire existence of Super in the first place is because GT was a blunder of unseen proportions.

It was the XFL of anime

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>>159537187
>It implies one nature of his immortality,
Yeah immortal body

>it was weakened when he fused
Exactly he wasn't immortal and Trunks was able to destroy until he asspull himself back.

>No, you cannot prove that he wished for an immortal body.

>>159535174 and >>159535366
>We don't see him making his wish retard but during the entire arc he refers to it as immortal body nowhere is "soul" mentioned apart from your headcanon. Take that L

>The show contradicts you, no matter what you think, Zamasu is immortal because he could not die, even when he was removed from his body.
Yeah I know, the show contradicts itself many times, again asspull, bad writing etc

You seem to have no argument to defend this shitty writing.
Last (You)

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is there a stream available tonight?

>>159534476
>Oda and Kishimoto have surpassed him.

One Piece hasn't been good since the time skip and Naruto stopped being good a very long time ago.

>>159537344
super only exist because of db evolution and how succesful BoG was
tori couldn't care less for gt

>>159537344
It's because the live action movie was bad.

They would have made it sooner in reaction to GT if that was the case.

>>159537268
They have literally no reason to do that.

Why are the reaction videos for DBS so fake?

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>>159537381
>Yeah immortal body
which is a (one) property of DB immortality.
>Exactly he wasn't immortal and Trunks was able to destroy until he asspull himself back.
He was incapable of healing damage but he wasn't capable of dying.
> >>159535174 and >>159535366
Already addressed, it is not evidence.
>Yeah I know, the show contradicts itself many times, again asspull, bad writing etc
Contradicts your argument.
>You seem to have no argument to defend this shitty writing.
I don't need to, you cannot defend your claim.
>Last (You)
People don't agree with you so I was successful in the end, having the "last laugh" is pointless and all I'm doing this for is so that people notice and catch onto you.

>>159537516
>watching reaction videos

>>159537516
To make money off this retarded fanbase.

>>159537516
Why are you watching reaction videos?

>>159531697
>first out
U9 of course
>next outs
U3, U10
>later outs
U4, U3
>pre final battle elimination
U2
>final battle
U6, U7, and U11 of course

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>a-avenge me, Goku....don't *cough* let Z-Zeno-sama do as pleases anymore...

>Go to the future to fight Black and Zamasu
>Had to retreat
>Go back to try again
>Had to retreat again
>Alright alright let's try one more time :^)
>All it does is escalate to the most outrageous point in DB history
>All because they fucked up Mafuba, the easiest fucking technique ever


God this arc was shit

>>159537574
Why aren't you?

>>159537548
>>159537574
Because they show up on my feed since I clicked on a Geekdom video that was posted here.
Now I get a feed full of retards doing retarded faces at DBS
I watched one, and the dude was getting hyped at every single thing that happened while not knowing anything about the characters or show, despite being a huge "fan"

>>159537633
nice repost

>>159537660
you know you can delete vids from your watch history right?

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>YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG, TRUNKS! FEEL THE TINGLE INSIDE YOU!

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why not just bring future Trunks to the tournament? dude is stronger than Vegito Blue

hour left till furshits last stand

>>159537765
1 hour and 1 week left until we see jiren rape kale

>>159537765
WHERES DA STREAM

>>159537759
>zeno erases him without hesitation for messing with time and escaping the death of his universe.

>>159537824
up yer ass

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>>159537734
Goku should use a time machine and tell hsi kid self to WAKU WAKU. Would save us a lot of episodes of bullshit about training and improving yourself and letting your rage go.

>>159537871
While he's at it, why not teach his kid self everything he knows, as well as abusing a few Zenkai for quick gains.

>>159537759
This, he could steal everyone Ki without asking like he did to the people of Earth.

>>159537759
wrong pic you fucking idiot
now you just outed yourself as a cuck

>>159537924
>why not teach his kid self everything he knows
Waku waku will suffice, considering Z and Super are more about beamspamming and transformations than actual techniques.

>>159538031
>Goku Black wasn't Super Saiyan for this fight
For what purpose?

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>>159537734
>Power comes from a tingle, not a desire

>>159538076
toei ignoring toriyama

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>>159535849

>>159538076
Why would he need to be if base Black was on par with SSJ2 Trunks to begin with?

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>>159538149
Because SS2 Goku is God tier, while SS2 Trunks is normal?

>>159538138
Is that Oolong crossdressing?