Fate Apocrypha

>>159522730
Fuck off Semiramis

>>159522730
watch exclusively battle shonen

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>>159522730
Pray a lot.

>>159522730
How can Kirei even compete with that?

>>159522730
Play card games.

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>>159523215
He literally can't.
Poor little priest boy.

>>159522730
Do not skip daily servant routine.

>>159522730
He's thin as fuck, with way too narrow upper body.
5/10, would throw away like a little girl.

>>159522730
Be a good Christian.

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*Angry ~Uuu~ noises*

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love posting in multiple threads about the same thing

>>159523535
>>159523215
>Around the time when Risei's son was born, Shirou had deliberately diminished his contact with Risei.[10] Shirou remained distant from Risei's own son. Shirou consciously avoids Kirei Kotomine because Shirou noticed the "distortion" within his stepbrother. Of course, he would very much like to free Kirei from his anguish, but no matter how he thought about it, it wouldn't end well. Additionally, if the one-in-a-million chance occurred where an event caused him to affirm his own distortion, Shirou was greatly worried that the first person Kirei would target would be him. Thus, Shirou kept his distance from Kirei as much as possible from the beginning to end of their relationship. Risei's funeral was the last time that his son Kirei and Shirou met.

Amakusa is a confirmed pussy.

>>159523664
It's almost like we are back in old /a/

Shame about all the secondaries though, Fate threads seemingly can never escape them

>>159523753
It's simply too big at this point

>>159523629
>Mismatched eyes
>They come from different corpses
Perfect.

>>159523215
Not a chance, Kirei is already an old rusty fuck past his prime who got defeated by some screaming retarded ginger boy.

>>159523804
Which should make secondaries reticent to get into it because there's too much to consume and yet every thread is filled with "Can I watch this without reading the VN" and the worst of all, Zero secondaries who tell everyone the VN is shit and to watch only Zero because it's the only good thing about Fate because it's cool and mature like themselves.

>>159522730
Do 20 push-ups every day, for the rest of your life.

I remember when Apocrypha was just coming out and we all thought Amakusa was Shirou but raised by Kirei instead. Good times.

>>159522730
Get a cute elf girl to take care of you.

S U B S
W H E N

>>159524007
PRONTO IN SPANISH.

>>159524007
In like 2 days I believe

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OTP
T
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This series is shit Touma with IT can beat every single one from here, also all the ships and girls suck.

>>159524378
I like your effort but you have to accept that 90% of raildexfags are also fatefags.

>>159524131
>>159524209
>>159524265
>>159524529
Thread ruined.

>>159523860
She was made from twins after all.
http://i.imgur.com/niEbdvq.jpg

Since we're talking about Priests anyway, I'm going to ask this question. Who's the strongest Priest in Fate franchise?

>>159525818
The Pope

>the autistic Astolfofag that posts his shit in every Apo thread

>>159525818
Merem Solomon or Narbareck, leader of the Burial Agency (if you count grills).

If you count Shiro, he has an unfair advantage by being a Servant, but it's still up in the air wether he could beat Merem.

>>159522730
If you're a fatass: Eat less and exercise more. Once you are as lean as you want to be, begin a GRADUAL increase of your caloric intake. If you did it right you should have more muscle mass, and since you increased your caloric intake GRADUALLY, you shouldn't gain too much fat. The last step is to GRADUALLY reduce caloric intake. The last step should result in you having your desired body because you GRADUALLY reduced your caloric intake, which should end up with you reaching your desired level of shreddedness while minimizing the loss of those juicy muscles you worked so hard to acquire.

What? Why not just work out from the get-go and then do a massive cut? Because you'd lose more muscle than you'd want to if you remain in a caloric deficit for that long.

For skinny fuccbois: Same as fatass, except you don't need to do that first step because you're lean already.

There's a bunch of other shit that you need to know, but you'll do all that research on your own because you actually want to have sexy anime muscles, right?

This'll take a few years btw lol

>>159522730
100 Push-Ups, 100 Sit-Ups, 100 Squats, 10KM Running
Every single day.

>>159525818
The cyborg priest of Strange Fake and besides, he isn't a hack and is actually fulfilling his duties in murican grail war.

>>159522730
Priests don't look like this

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>>159528408
In Kotomine family, it's standard.

>>159529158
Is he actually related to them?

>>159529431
You better get out now before you get spoiled

>>159523904
To be fair, that retarded ginger boy also chopped off the arm of the god bullied the shit out of every other servant who went against him.

>>159523923
>Zero secondaries who tell everyone the VN is shit and to watch only Zero because it's the only good thing about Fate because it's cool and mature like themselves

Mature enough for Zero but get flustered at the the prospect of having a threesome with Rin and Saber.

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>>159529852
But why should you be angry from the natural outcome? They are literally made for a threesome.

>>159529431
Adopted.

>>159529852
Honestly the characters in Zero act about as retarded as the usual teenagers in anime, only difference is they're visually older. It really makes no difference.

>>159525818
curry ass cameo in a fate au when

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Why is she so cute?

>>159531309
Tsukihime and Fate are officially different universes now so never. Of course there are some characters who exists in both like Aoko but I doubt someone like Ciel as she is in Tsukihime is in the Fate verse.

>>159531393
>she

>>159530844
Because Zerofags are kids.

And thus this episode introduces one of the most cancerous and shitty characters of this work. Its kind of hilarious that that can refer to more than one character at once too. Complete with obligatory fanservice. I know one of them is a comic relief but holy fuck does that intent fall flat on it's face. Buckle in - the train ride off a cliff has started.

At least we are still in the part with good joan of arc moments and MOEdred being MOEdred, not to mention albeit brief appearance of second best elf waifu in nasuverse, so oh well, there's still something good right now.

I already felt the OP song was weird and out of place when it played last episode(it felt more like ED song) and the visuals certainly do not help sell it. It should have been the ED song at worst and scrapped and remade at best, considering how disjointed the instruments sound. Its sad because the OP visuals are actually quite dank in comparison to the drab music(if I ignore my absolute anger at MC-kun in the op) - it woul dhave worked way better with Garnidelia doing the OP desu.

Animation also took a significant hit in quality, albeit the MOEdred fight actually bumped up choreography to a bit above average so that's nice in spite of lower budget. Fights are Apo's(only) strength so I hope A1 can keep that up.

Overall a strong 6/10. If the action is kept up at least it will be worth to spend time watching this

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>>159531393
I want to go on a date with this cutie.

>>159531561
What's up, Fei.

Just watched the episode, did they skip the Karna fight or are they planning on switching around the events.

>>159531574
Gay?

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>>159531393
FUCK YOU TYPEMOON STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME LIKE TRAPS

>>159531606
are you fucking retarded, you piece of shit? the fight is next ep

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He loves her

>>159531606
No, you didn't.

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>>159522730

>>159531606
They are changing around events. It made Jack's intro pretty weird.

What if King Arthur was a guy and Emiya Shirou was a girl?

>>159531838
It doesn't really change anything? And before someone posts Prototype, Arthur and Ayaka are very different characters to the female Saber we know and Shirou.

I'm so hyped for Karna vs Siegfried.

I think FSN was really shit. Is it worth giving this a go?

>>159532082
No, Apocrypha is by far the worst entry in the series even counting garbage like Extella and Grand Order.

>>159532082
I think continuing to post that question is not worth it.

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>>159523629

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Remember Jeanne will win the MCBowl

>>159532010
Did Astolfo steal Sieg's shirt?

>>159532120
Is it something people are posting? I avoid Fate threads so I wouldn't know.

>>159532082
If you didn't read and enjoy the original, uncensored VN, you have no business with Fate.

>>159526474
>fulfilling his duties
>allowed a DA to be a master in the war
>allowed fucking prevati to be in the war, and
to clone itself
>continues to allow Faldeus's stupid alliance shit to go on.
>allows a fucking god to run around pissing off the herc whos gone full blown fedora and was reeeing as hard as he possibly can.
anon plz, hes doing a terrible job.

>>159522730
I heard Shakespeare is a servant, is it hype?

>>159522730
>godly

Do nothing but arms, chest, and abs while making maximal effort to ignore traps and lats. Also eat like a little bitch so you have a nice little twink body.

>>159532217
I read the original VN and thought it was trash.

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>>159532063
This is not going to happen, but....

>>159532239
He's just perfect and he made his debut in this episode.

>>159532261
The you have no business with Fate. Simple, eh?

>>159532271
Well Karna gets to see Siegfried using Sieg by proxy and gets insight on Arjuna too so it's not that bad.

>>159532239
He has basically no combat ablity but his noble phantasm is absolute bullshit.

>>159524378
Touma would get wasted by Assassins and Archers as they could kill him before he would have any time to react.

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>>159532239
Yes

>>159532271
It's kind of funny how Vasavi changes sizes depending on who draws it.

>>159531307
Nice headcanon.

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>>159532168
Sieg mana transfers with Astolfo through anal sex every nigh

Is Avicebron the shittiest Caster?

>>159532239
He is basically a shitposter.

>>159532461
How is that headcanon?

>>159532271
That fight is hype though, it's just kind of ruined by how Sieg survives it. It was still kind of fine to see how even with all the absurd buffs he got to face Karna (holy cloth, galvanism), at the end the fight ended up being a battle of will and he would never ever beat Karna in that. So what saved Sieg was a third party butting in.

>>159532221
He fought the DA tho and I what mean is he didn't hijacked the war like Kotomine and Shirou.

why are we seeing only two of the red masters?

>>159532082
FSN is by far the worst part of the Fate franchise. If you didn't like it I suggest looking at Zero next.

>>159532493
That's Shakes.

>>159532493
Adam's terraforming is terrifying, but he needs too much time to set up, and he is shit outside that.

Then again, he's also pretty unknown heroic spirit from thousand years ago, so that's about right.

>>159532571
You will see why soon. Probably next episode.

>>159532576
I watched Zero and thought it was much better than FSN. It's why I'm curious to if another spin-off would be any good.

>>159532571
Because the other five Red Masters gave their servants to Shirou.

>>159532558
Just give it time m8, he's either gonna be an evil asshole later or completely eat it too the pale rider/jester combo leading too essentially the same result.

>>159532645
This is bait

>>159532582
Shakespeare has a broken NP though.

>>159532645
Then I'd give this a go. Apo is a mix of both FSN and Zero, it won't be as good as Zero.

>>159532728
>Someone has a different opinion to my own, it must be bait.

>>159532724
I seriously doubt he is going to be evil, he will probably just join the good guys along with the nuns to fight some of the evil guys and that's it.

>>159532308
Sieg can take on his form for three minutes each time a Command Seal is used.

>>159532645
Pretty much most of them are good. But Apocrypha is shit.

>>159522730
GOMAD + SS

So, redhead fag is a bad guy this time?

>>159532645
see >>159532108

>>159532261
Same, though I have yet to read a VN that wasn't trash, so that's not saying much. Only Fate related thing that has been decent was Fate/Zero.

>>159532770
>Someone has a different opinion to my own, it must be bait.
he didn't even finish stay night, how can he say Zero is better when you haven't finished stay night?

>>159532804
He uses two in that fight though. It's the only time he is forced to that. It's kind of funny because Shirou's fight comes later and it looks far easier (he wins with Astolfo's sword and Blasted Tree).

>>159532855
What do you mean I didn't finish it? I read all 3 routes. I never said I didn't read all the way through it. It was shit.

>>159531417
She gave Archer his red robe, so she exists definitely

>>159532799
Nah somebody is gonna job hard at some point to make Jester actually relevant worth a shit with all the asshole shit he's doing in the background and I feel it's probably going to be him.

>>159532890
I know this is bait because you switched from watched to read but whatever, weak b8.

>>159532645
Try it then, there's no highschool shit.

>>159532951
I read the VN for FSN and watched the anime for Zero. I don't think I ever got that mixed up.

>>159532645
Apo is much worse than stay night.

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>>159532770
All the writers have broken NPs

>>159532930
It would be fun if Flat ends up fucking up Jester's magecraft revolver heart and Jester dies because of that.

>>159532576
Fate: Greatest love story ever told
UBW: Greatest shonen ever told
Heaven's Feel: Greatest tragedy ever told

If you don't agree with my objectively subjective opinion then you're wrong.

>>159532819
No, in this time line the 4th Fuyuki holy grail war never happened so the great Fuyuki fire never happened so Shirou Emiya''s family didn't die in the Great Fuyuki fire so he didn't become the world's most helpful sociopath and is currently enjoying his life as an unironic ordinary highschool student with his family and friends, blissfully ignorant of the existence of magecraft or mages.

Team/dualjannu/!
Also I lost the pic, don't ask why so post it please.

>>159532869
>he wins with Astolfo's sword
Love power

>>159532869
>>159532271
Karna's fight whole concept is like that boss in a RPG that comes before the final boss but it's actually harder.

>>159533047
HF is ultimately a romance though, and Shirou ends up happier there than the other routes. You might dislike Sakura as a character but you can't deny that Shirou goes to greater lengths for her than he would the other two.

>>159532694
how can a master have multiple servants? I mean not even Illya had two and she had a crap ton of mana

>>159533138
nice try wormfag

>>159533138
Romances can be tragic. Learn what a tragedy is.

>>159533138
That's right. He was willing to cast aside his hero of Justice attitude just to save her. Never did this with the other two.

>>159533144
Because he's a ruler class servant.

>>159533157
>jeanne that low
>astolfo that high
Traps were a mistake, and Japan needs to get the holy treatment for being cucks.

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>>159533138
>and Shirou ends up happier there than the other routes

>>159533114
Literally this

>>159533219
>Traps were a mistake
fujo and yuri too

>>159533205
He'd do it for Saber and Rin too. Saber's selfless as he is and Rin never was in that danger

>>159533144
He's actually a Ruler.

>>159522730
roid and lift

>>159533047
Zero: Greatest Seinen ever told.

>>159533203
Sure but the tragedy doesn't happen to the main characters since they get a happy end. Zouken remembers everything he forgot and passes on, Illya who was going to die anyway gets to do something helpful for the person she cares about with her life, Kotomine comes closer to Angra Mainyu's birth than any other route. Really the only one HF is tragic for is Saber and Shinji I guess.

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>yuri sex out of nowhere

>>159533138
Honestly Sakura is the most suited for someone like Shirou with his heroic principles as unlike the other two she's a damsel in distress.

>>159533144
Shirou is the main antagonist

>>159533144
Illya could have, Plus Kotomine had two, Medea had three servants thanks to her prana source and of course there's [spoiler[Sakura who had four servants [/spoiler]

>>159533426
She's the one most suited to him because they're both shit.

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>>159533341
Fucking Astolfo. It's not nice to bail on someone that's trying to learn how to walk.

>>159533444
Kotomine wasn't supplying Gilgamesh with mana by the 5th War though, that's what the orphans in the Church's basement were for.

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The end

>>159533444
Nice spoiler tag

>>159533494
akame ga kill ending?

>>159532167
lewd

>>159533455
To be fair to Sakura, she was adopted into a family that raped her with worms for 10 years. I'd feel sorry for anybody who had to go through that.

>>159533219
It's Sieg ships, who cares? Objectively speaking I understand it though, since he spent more time with Pink.

>>159533444
>be illya
>summon all the servants for yourself before the other masters
>???
>profit

>>159533572
I'd feel sorry for anyone that has to put up with Shirou too. Nevermind fucking him too.

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>>159533407
>yuri

>>159533572
They used more than just worms, Shinji also raped her all the time.

>>159533622
>not wanting to be friends with someone who will do everything possible to protect you, cook for you and take care of you
What did he mean by this.

>>159533697
>raped

>>159533490
I just noticed he's using Astolfo's sword.

>>159533715
Let's not pretend he's not an insufferable character.

>>159533622
He canonically has a huge dick and fucks like an animal (if the girl isn't Saber).

>>159533697
The worst part is, this is Zouken we're talking about. He likely made sure that happen in the first place to ensure she could have a possible breaking point which he used to great effect after his plan with Shirou backfired.

>>159533157
Where did you got that?

>>159533724
>implying any girl would actually wants Shinji's dick

He's literally the supreme gentleman on steroids.

>>159533736
He is. Astolfo gave it to him for self-protection.

>>159533536
The LNs ended before AgK

Eat your oats
Do your squats
Stop masturbating

>>159533835
I don't find him insufferable though, maybe you should stop trying to push your opinion as fact.

>>159533736
>pure lover
confirmed

So is UTW still on the job or will we be subless this week?

>>159533874
twitter

>>159534020
They usually release on Sunday so I don't see why not.

>>159533937
Shinji is actually really popular and good at everything that does involve being a mage though. Nasu said he'd be successful at anything he went out to do as long it didn't involve magecraft.

>>159534020
They released it Sunday last week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANjDB7HqIJE&

>>159533937
All the sluts at Homurahara were getting dicked by him, Sakura included.

So how did the copycat HGW work? We're they all connected to Darnic's group and the GG as experiments or their own separate things?

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>>159534224

Is anybody doing shit rushjob subs again or are we all waiting for UTW?

>>159534286
Thats gotta be the least realistic thing about Fate. Theres no way a guy with zero friends manages to fuck so many girls.

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Astolfo has no sex appeal.

Finally with subs in spanish :)

http://jkanime.net/fateapocrypha/2/

>>159534369
>Is anybody doing shit rushjob subs
After how people reacted last week? I don't think so.

>>159534369
You're waiting for UTW's rushjob subs.

The naked Jeanne in the ed made me mad for some reason. I quite like titties and stuff but that felt out of place.

Sieg and Astolfo poster is a blessing.
Keep going anon, Aposhit don't deserve good threads.

>>159534460
Who is this semen demon

>>159534594
Stop being a secondary

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>>159534460
Quiet Jeanne.

>>159534299
The mock grail wars where likely just created by powerful mages which while not on the scale of the Fuyuki grail, most of them would do the job, but I would not be surprised if some mock ones ended up like Strange Fake, aka a big clusterfuck.

>>159522730
Squats 'n oatz.

>>159534299
Own separated things, but as they never had the Great Grail it was never possible for them to reach the scale of Fuyuki or being significant enough. Darnic used them as tests and info gathering about the Grail and the Servants.

>>159534947
Wasn't there one war in Greece where all the masters tried to summon Herk and they all ended up killing themselves before the war even started?

>>159533114
That's what happens when you understimate Poo-In-Loo warriors.

God forbid they ended up fighting Bhima, Arjuna, or Drona.

>>159534387
The dude is loaded and doesn't look like he was hit with a shovel.

>>159535033
Arjuna and Karna are more or less the same powerlevel, maybe Karna is a bit stronger as far Fate goes. Bhima and Drona weren't mentioned yet, but the other Pandavas were. Also Parashurama.

>>159534800
>Rin in charge of good taste
Nope.

>>159535148
Right, I forgot he's a rich kid.

>>159534387
>handsome
>rich
>acts like a bad boy in highschool

>>159535158
>Bhima doesn't get mentioned
>But the fucking LITERALLY WHO twins got mentioned

Horseshit.

>>159535286
He's also an athlete, what with being a part of the archery club

>>159535322
To be fair the other Pandavas were just mentioned in a "Karna and Arjuna have brothers and they are the other Pandavas. Karna totally wrecked them but spared them at one point" and that was it. We got far more in Duryodhana that any of them.

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DEAR LORD, SOMEONE MAKE ASTOLFO BULGES STOP

>>159535322
I don't think they were mentioned by name though. Just that the Pandava brothers are a thing.

>>159531772
J A N N U

>>159522730
Starting Strength for 6 months
Stronglifts 5x5 for for 12 months
Then cycle between advanced split workouts for 2 or more years

My older brother Shirou is so cool

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>>159532167
That was a good doujin

>>159535453
But Duryodhana is a jobber who constantly cried like a bitch. I still can't believe Bhima had to cheat to beat him

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I-I think I'm in love.

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Big bro

If you know spanish, subs are out https://animeflv.net/ver/46440/fateapocrypha-2

>>159532167
>>159535926
link?

>>159533950
I fucking hate Shiggy so much

will there ever be hope that Mind of Steel Ending or Sparks Liner High being animated at all?

>>159536083
It's on panda you retard

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>>159535939
Yeah, but a charming one.

>And so, just before the final battle. Arjuna's father, Indra, who understood that Karna could not be persuaded, took the form of a Brahmin, contacts Karna, and takes his golden armor.
>Though Karna had lost the property of being unkillable that he received from his father, he never said he would stop proceeding to the battlefield. He did not care that when he had lost his golden armor he had hastened his own death.
>Indra, who was touched by how gallant a figure Karna struck, asked why. Why did he continue to the battlefield, having lost his armor, but without reproaching Indra, who had hatched this scheme out of love for Arjuna?
>"There is no need to hate you. It is simply a matter of being a step ahead. In fact--yes. Though you are a god, you are also a father. Such a thing brings me joy."
>Then why do you advance toward the battlefield, asked Indra.
>"To me, defeat is bringing shame upon my father. Even though death awaits me, I cannot run away."
>After all, that was why he lived. To Karna, who lived his life with pride in those who gave him life and raised him, his life was not his own.
>"Including, I owe Duryodhana a debt. For some reason, that impudent and timid man is so bright to me. It may be blasphemy against my father but, occasionally, I feel that that sweet light is the warmth of the sun."
>It was not the fire of the sun that Karna carried nor the absolute brilliance of Surya; to Karna, the sun was the imperfect charm that humans displayed.
>Indra, who saw the divinity of Surya himself in that form, gave Karna his spear. He had taken from this noble hero something greater than his life. Unless he gave something as compensation, his honor would be stained; above all--he was charmed with him: if it were this man, he could wield the greatest spear, that Indra had not given even to his own son.

>>159536154
No. There's nothing to animate in the mind of steel ending anyway, it's just Shirou talking to Illya then Rin and Kotomine, finishing with a fade to black.

>>159536064
Those subs are awful

>>159535949
That's one of my husbands, though.

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>>159532167
CUTE

>>159531838
Then Archer would be a girl and Fate would be /u/ shit with Rin+Archer fags being infinitely more obnoxious than the handful of women who like the hetero version

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>>159535926

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Shota Sieg a cute

>>159536691
I mean you could still have male Archer in a universe with a female Shirou. It's not like Archer is the exact same Shirou as the ones in the original three routes anyway.

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I'm in love.

>>159536861
>Archer exclusively exists in a universe where shirou's mom ate more hamburgers
Kind of stretching it

You could reframe the story with Archer being Kiritsugu, maybe

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>https://animebracket.com/results/best-girl-4-a-certain-salty-railgun?group=finals

We aren't allowed to like Rin anymore guys

>>159536980
I mean there probably already exists a universe where Kiritsugu saved and adopted a girl instead who may or may not be a female version of Shirou. Doesn't stop Archer from existing.

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>>159532168
Find out on the next episode

When does Gil show up?

>>159537207
fuck are they going to have sex yet?

>>159536995
>>>/reddit/
>>>/anywherebuthere/

>>159537174
Raws are on nyaa as usual, retard

>>159537248
5 minutes

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is he our boy?

>>159537531
>streaming

>>159537531
He'll get there.

>>159537356
what if i wanted engrish subs

>>159537618
Then you'd be shit out of luck. Now fuck off

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I'M HERE TO SAVE APOC
Just kidding, this anime is going to get bad soon

>>159536366
better than nothing

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Best duo.

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Post Jack

Is karna NP to take a shit on the street?

>>159537800
He is a rare pale white Indian.

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>>159537786

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>>159537800
No that is his Chuuni brother NP

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>>159537786
This series better generate more Jack facesitting art.

Spoil me what is Shirou's goal here?

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>>159537882
F/GO already has a steady amount of art for her

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>>159537786

What I expect: hetersexual porn
What I'll get: Astolfo porn, bonus points if Spartacus oppressing Astolfo porn.

You know this shit is bound to happen with F/A

>>159537904
see >>159533443

>>159537904
Save everyone

>>159537904
World salvation. Though this franchise seems to have something against that.

>>159532549
Explain further.

>>159533910
I cried when I read this part

>>159537718
Is her whole character "Medea with boobs"?

>>159538066
>>159538091
He wanted to save the world by taking away free will, it's not a good thing.

>>159536995
We aren't? She's objectively the girl best suited to Shirou. They're like Yin and Yang.

>>159537904
Villain

>>159538153
but Medea has boobs, well bigger than Seiba at least

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Reminder that Astolfo is a cute girl

>>159538091
>>159538066

How does he intend to do that? By wishing on the Great Grail? Isn't the HGW all a scheme to reach the root and disappear into it?

>>159538269
If Astolfo was a girl no one would give a shit about him.

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>>159522730
Aren't this servants and masters a bit to carefree about their identities?

Isn't it supposed to be a big deal and something you have to hide to avoid weakness exploits?

>>159538153
No.

>>159538155
Free will is a myth to begin with, everyone has their own fate

>>159538292
Kill all 7 Servants and the Grail can punch a hole to the Root. Kill 6, and you and your Servant both get a wish. Amakusa planned on hacking the Grail to make his thing work though.

>>159538292
The grail is just a big blob of mana, you could essentially use it for anything you wanted. A guy in GO literally uses the Fuyuki grail to wish for money.

>>159538327
Does not really matter here because Shirou can easily deduce who's who, only way to stop that is if you have something like Mordred helmet.

>>159531393
I lover her

>no homo

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>>159537920

>>159538292
While that is the main goal of the thee families that created it, the Grail itself is still a massive collection of magic that is capable of granting a wish.

Is the grail corrupted by avenger in this series?

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The mother of my children is a saint!

>>159538439
Nope.

>>159538421
>>159538386
>>159538385
But after the 3rd Fuyuki War, the Grail was tainted so that it will only kill people when you wish on it because Angry Manjew

>>159538155
t. Big Boss

>>159538486
The split in timeline of Apocrypha happens because the Einzberns chose to summon Ruler instead of Avenger during the Third War. It is uncorrupted in this timeline.

>>159538486
Angra wasn't ever summoned in the Apoc timeline. The divergence is that the Einzberns hacked Amakusa into the Ruler class and summoned him instead of trying to summon Avenger.

>>159538486
Watch episode one again.

>>159538486
It can still grand a wish, just not in the way you want. It can also still do it's deigned goal but you need to know what you're doing (Zouken and Illya) to even have a chance after the corruption.

>>159533114
To be honest, Apocrypha Shirou is extremely weak and faggot, Sieg didn't even break a sweat to defeat him.

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>>159538327
>Isn't it supposed to be a big deal and something you have to hide to avoid weakness exploits?
Yeah, but this Grail war has two sides, with masters working together, so one can argue that they revealing their identities makes sense to deal with their weakness as a group.
That being said, the t guy refusing to reveal Sigfried name wasn't on the wrong either, such a big group could cause leaks of the identities.
But as the other anon said, it doesn't matter in the end because lol two rulers.

>>159538410
DOes the helmet have some sort of conceal spell or something?

>>159538327
There's no point in hiding the identity of your servant from your team unless you want to betray them.

>>159538644
They have to fight each other later so the safe thing would be hide it.

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>>159538351
>Free will is a myth to begin with, everyone has their own memes
FTFY

>>159538148
Sieg barely holds his shit together after getting a holy shroud that heals him (made by Jeanne), galvanism that can let him to spam Balmungs and Karna not going all out. Karna deals with the spam by flame wings, his armor and Brahmastra Kundala, but decides to use Vasavi Shakti to end it. Sieg uses a command spell to buff his Balmung spam and everything turns into a battle of willpower... which means he loses because he is nowhere near to Karna's will. That's when Astolfo shows up with Achilles Cosmos.

>>159538634
Is literally the whole point of the helmet.

>>159538634
Yeah it's a NP. It hides Mordred's parameters from everyone while se has it on, but she can't use her bootleg Excalibur unless she removes it.

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Vlad vampire form > Karna

fight me

>>159538773
>Mordred's sword NP is literally just some sword she stole from Artoria's treasury and is powered by daddy issues
Amazing

>>159538776
Vlad Vampire form is overrated, he does literally nothing and the only reason that he reaches the Great Grail is because the Reds get immobilized by Shirou getting their contracts.

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>>159537531
Yeah

>>159538776
Karna is stronger then Shirou sooooooooo

>>159538723
I never heard about the holy shroud or the Balmung buff before to be honest. Are you sure that's what happened?

>>159537904
Comic relief character

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Does Apocrypha Karna have eye beams?

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>>159531772
Vive la France!

spanish subs already out

>>159538910
I read it so yeah. Jeanne uses the Saint skill to make the shroud and Galvanism to spam Balmungs, it's even compared to what Siegfried was able to do while alive (as a Servant, Siegfried can't spam NPs).

Also both were mentioned a lot around here in the past.

>>159538314
Nah if he were a girl he'd give jeanne serious competition.

>>159538910
Both were mentioned before here and in fgog, also in BL by You.

>>159538628
Shirou doesn't have his ruler priviledges anymore

>>159538890
cu can easily defeat emiya shirou so by your logic lancer is stronger than gil

>>159538910
its a headcanon

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>Spanish subs are faster than UTW

JUST

>>159539134
He still can deduce and figure out who is who, along with using his supervising privileges to have a good understanding of what is going on. It's why he knows something is fishy after the heart transplant thing happens.

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>>159538910
>>159539200
>During his battle with Karna, Sieg managed to use the Noble Phantasm so many times consecutively only because he continued instantaneously pulling out the sword's power while replenishing his mana with “Galvanism.” The Servant version of Siegfried cannot instantly replenish the mana he expends, so his sword's accumulation of mana is overwhelmingly faster than that of an average Anti-Army Noble Phantasm, though still not as fast as Sieg.

Even Apo Material mentions it.

>>159539203
they're shit tough

>>159538970
"Joan’s female sexuality inevitably became part of the chemistry that drew men to her -- but in a way that was the opposite of the norm. Her squire d’Aulon helped her into her armor every day that she was in the field and it was he who dressed her wounds. He testified that he often saw her naked legs and breasts and that". . . she was a young girl, beautiful and shapely. ..’ D’Alençon said ". .. I slept with Joan and the soldiers ‘on the straw,’ and sometimes I saw Joan get ready for the night, and sometimes I looked at her breasts, which were beautiful." Yet -- all of Joan’s men -- Jean de Metz, Bertrand de Poulengy, d’Alençon, d’Aulon, Thibault; the men who slept on the ground beside her and saw her in her lovely nakedness, were adamant that they never felt carnal lust for her. Thibault elaborated that while they sometimes felt a carnal urge for Joan, they "never dared give way to it.." They saw a saintly goodness in her and it was shame that prevented them from making advances on her. They felt an exalted pure love for her that they could not bear to sully with carnal words much less deeds."

>>159539178
>comparing a human vs a servant to a servant vs a servant
>comparing a fight that Shirou struggled with to the curbstomp that happens to Dracula.

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Best girl

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Why did he lose part of his body?

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>>159537786

>>159539234
Don't post this evil cat ever again

>>159539376
He was summoned to have human legs so as to not stand out as much.

>>159539304
all im saying is that fate is more about match ups than powerlevels.

>>159531561
fuck Fei

>>159539376
Sacrificed it so it would be harder for people to figure out who he is at the price of lower parameters. Don't think that makes him weak however.

>>159539304
Yeah but comparing Saint vs Vampire is much better

>>159538686
Given that they've got to work together to actually make it to the second part of the war, revealing names and capabilities would be prudent. It's not like they wouldn't be able to figure the names out by witnessing Noble Phantasms anyway.

>>159539011
>>159539076
I was talking about the buff to Balmung to make it able to compete with Vasavi.

>>159523721
>Kotomine so hardcore he scares a Ruler-type Servant
And the one time he thought he met someone as awesome as him, Kiri turned out to be a little bitch.

>>159522730
Exercise, like >>159535866 and plenty of cuts and/or recomp.

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>>159538970