Made in Abyss

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>Undertale
Why on earth are they reminded of that game and not this game?

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>>159486180
Nice going with the role playing OP, where's the rest?

>>159486062
So we will reach until the end of volume five with this pacing, right?

>>159486619
Including volume five.
3 chapters/episode=3*13=39

>>159486062
>>159486180
Is this anime Dark Souls meets MegaMan?

>>159486761
blame meets moe

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How big is it, anons? Don't count manga pages, that's cheating

>They switched the order of chapters 1 and 2

I don't have a good feeling about this.

>>159486180
If you look at the 6th layer, you can vaguely see a very tiny similarity; monsters in a cave that have a society. That's as similar as it would get.

>>159487232
>-.-
I don't know where you came from, but please go back there.

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>>159487232
>>159486761
>>159486062
>>159486180
It's gonna be a /v/ summer!

>>159487454
I came from the Made in Abyss manga where there is the right amount of gore and loli nudity unlike the toned down anime version of it

>>159487526
Lurk 2 more years before posting dumb newfaggot.

>>159487597
you probably enjoy sports anime

>>159487411
We've only just started the first episode and haven't even gone that far yet, but they say this shit right at the start. Seriously, there's little-to-no connections you can make.

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>>159487771
I've been away from /a/ for a bit, is shilling your discord the new cool thing the kids do?

>>159488029
Template?

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>>159486996
Around 130 not counting manga pages.

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>>159488054
it's a crap transparency but have fun

>>159487929
Just report and ignore as per usual

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>>159488100
Are you that transparent anon from the earlier threads, can I have another request please? I think hime on the second panel will be fairly easy to do.

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>>159488102
And now the transparency is lightly better!

>>159488253
Sure, I was just thinking of doing her. I recently learned how to do transparencies and I'm going mad with power.

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>>159488102
Thanks. Needs a Keanu edit.

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>>159488278
thanks man

>>159488309
paint.net? I, too, gained a little magic wand knowledge recently.

>>159486645
It might even have 14 episodes according to some official streaming sites. But the box set info only lists 13 episodes and there are only 2 parts to the box set. Ep. 14 could be an ONA that only airs online, obviously, or it will come bundled in the future with a manga volume as an OVA.

>>159486062
How long will it take to reach the dark and edgy part in the anime?

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>>159488413
It's all fun and games until layer 4.

Anime is skipping a lot of content and details, though.

>>159488546
Its not on the scale of just cuz. The more they decide to go further, the more worse it'll get.

>bondrewd fanboys
I will never understand this new post-edgy fad. He is objectively and universally wrong and dangerous to humans and yet he is treated like some sort of controversial hero.

>>159488580
I think they just shifted the exposition to episode 2, we'll see.

>>159488580
>Anime is skipping a lot of content and details, though.
That's fine by me, adaptations shouldn't be a 1:1 thing.
As long as they keep key scenes in, it'll be good.

is this a good series, or will it be the next
Plastic Memories
Alice to Zoroku
etc.
i.e. should i watch/read it or drop it now?

>>159488642
>post-edgy
What is this even supposed to mean. This manga isn't even edgy. You can't have a story with dark themes anymore without people screaming about how immature it is. It's like we've entered bizarro world.

Are there any raws for chapters >35?

>>159488745
Drop it now and fuck off forever

>>159488642
BONDREWD DID NOTHING WRONG

>>159488782
Lurk more. I don't really know why you want the raws, though. You have typesetted chapters up to 38.

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>>159488380
Yup just graduated from mspaint to paint.net, a stepping stone on my way to photoshop.

>>159488642
>he is wrong because I say so
At least come up with something if you want have a proper talk. Bondrewd was the reason we had all those thought inducing talks because of how pure and clear yet so complex his character is. Now, please elaborate.

>>159488859
Just skip right to Photoshop. They have a deal where you get Photoshop and Lightroom, both always up to date, for $11 a month. Shit's dirt cheap.

>>159488779
It's just a buzzword people started using on whatever they don't like.

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>>159488908
>paying for software more than once

>>159488951
>paying for software

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>>159488859
Thanks a bunch again, anon.

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>>159488951
*rumble of scientific progress*

>>159488979
>paying for anything at all

>>159488642
The Praying Hands were Bondrewd fanboys that actually became Bondrewd. That's pretty cool if you ask me.

>>159488642
If anywhere is likely to develop an anime-mengele fanclub, it's 4chan, anon.

(Complete with 'Anime Mengele did nothing wrong!' and 'Anime Mengele is the deepest character in all of anime!', to boot.)

>Sunday RICO

You said it, captcha.

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>>159486062
RABBIT SEASON

>>159489097
>deafening nnaa sounds

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>>159489097
This is Reg imagination, right? See he is not that lewd, just dreams with bunnies

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>>159489196
[SHHEP FARM SOUNDS]

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>>159488152

The power of Orth only reaches down to layer 1, maybe 2. Just as far as regular patrols are possible. Where the white whistles go, only the abyss' own laws matter. Misbehave and you end up as monster food or as a red smear on a cave wall. No appeal, no pardon. Survival makes right. That's all.

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>>159488908
Meep, I don't think I'd feel good about dropping 130$+ per year on a program I use for shitposting. I mean I'd buy it automatically if my job was graphic design but it's not the case. Are the updates that important?

>>159486062
Redpill me on this show

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>>159486846
Already been done. Quite literally actually.

>>159488642
Shut up Reg

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>>159488908
I have a cs6 licence for creative suite, but when I used my universities Creative cloud licence for other software it overwrite my cs6 ownership. Now that I've graduated I can't access any of my software withkut reactivating my license even though I own it.
Adobe have been shady as fuck with the creative cloud rollout and extremely unhelpful with resolving the issue. I have to reinstall everything from scratch after removing every trace of CC from my system even though I can't find my old install discs.
FUCK Adobe. Their customer reps have just been trying to strong arm me into reupping CC rather than fixing my goddamn CS6

>>159488829
So, anything past 38 then?

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post "special" nanachis

>>159488642
He wasn't wrong, though.
The son of a bitch managed to quantify an abstract concept like love and use it to overcome the burden of the 6th layer, something that results in death or the loss of humanity (with extremely rare exceptions).
Not only did he overcome the burden he even figured out how to receive the ONLY the blessing of the Abyss to become he cutest.
The only thing he did wrong was get beaten by a sentient murder bot/artifact, the daughter of the most bloodthirsty White Whistle in history, and Nanachi.

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>>159489276
- Loli spelunking adventures featuring roboshota and bunny
- I want Ozen to be my mom
- Posing science man did nothing wrong

>>159489424
I want a doujin where nanachi makes that face about dicks

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>>159489416
Will we ever find out why Lyza was so fucking insane? Don't they teach in school to never stick your dick in crazy?

>>159489416
>he knew how to manipulate people and mutilate like a pro therefore he wasn't evil

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>>159488885
So pretentious as always.

Bondrewd is just your everyday mad scientist that puts science above everything. That's wrong already since he is willing to sacrifice anything just to feed his own curiosity (and share some leftovers with his donators).
His only redeeming point is, that he sacrifices even himself, but that's nothing out of ordinary since basically every whitewhistle does it.
>such a complex character
He has some extravagant feats so he is not generic but he is far from being complex. No backstory, no goals, no insight. You can't get complex character just from few chapters.

>>159489416
>The only thing he did wrong was get beaten by a sentient murder bot/artifact, the daughter of the most bloodthirsty White Whistle in history, and Nanachi.
a good father lets his daughter win sometimes, when she deserves it. he did nothing wrong

>>159489527
>no backstory
Irrelevant to his current character
>no goals
Are you joking?
>no insight
There's plenty of insight into the character and his motivations given.

>>159489416
He was wrong because he betrayed his daughter's love and stole her future from her, the ultimate betrayal and failure a father can ever achieve.

He is worst dad, not best, despite what the stunted anons around here have been burbling about since the most recent translated chapters were posted.

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aren't earlier versions free now?
You can do simple editing with paint.net or gimp, but you need plugins for every second thing.

>>159489527
Were you even reading the manga?

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>>159486062
>undertake

>>159489469
You might think dicks are delicious, anon, but I don't think she would.

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>>159489600
>>159489359

>>159489580
Enough for him to be memorable, but not really to make him a complex character. If you want a complex character, read Paradise Lost or watch Shinsekai Yori. Boned Dude is not one. Jesus Christ, you're all plebbit tier with how you react to things in a good manga. But it's an "obscure" manga so its ok.

>>159489254
I use gimp and it works well enough for renders and misc edits
I also use Inkscape for vectoring

>>159489469
You can pet the bunny but rods are off-limits.

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>>159487511
To be fair Akihito legitimately has bloodborne concept art pictures on his pixiv, so chances are his designs are somewhat affected by that. And there is nothing wrong with that, it was a good game with great art direction, and has some heavy dungeoneering-in-the-middle-of-cursed-catacombs themes with Tomb Prospectors, as well as mad scientists dissecting people to use their organs for the greater cause and so on. It'd also be relatively simple to make an ingame bonerlewd cosplay.

>>159489651
I think you can only glean complexity if it is explicitly conveyed to you through text. It's like arguing a movie cannot have complex characters because there just cannot be enough exposition given to them.

>>159489590
>betrayed his daughter's love and stole her future from her
not at all correct.

>>159489777
Practically killed her, mhm

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>>159489469
Nanachi's faces are always the best part

>>159489651
>Gay Teens vs Kobolds
>complex characters
Not even Squealer with his muh freedoms was that complex, lest so a bunch of whiny kids.

>>159489777
Trips confirm papa did nothing wrong

>>159489373


Archived translations up to 41.

>>159489707
Yes you need time to convey complexity. That's property of complexity: it can't be compressed.

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I want to shave this bunny.

>>159489416
You only needed a person who would give up everything for you in order to create a White Whistle. In other words, an unconditional devotion. Similarly, a devotion to give up everything for another person is needed to take on the curse and negate its negative effects.

Bondrewd manipulated the system and instead used the devotion of those children to shield himself from the burden. He tricked them into doing this which is incredibly fucked up and cruel even if the character himself isn't a spiteful person.

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>>159489912
Get out

>>159489601
Were you? Maybe you should try to read it again withou bondrewd goggles.

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>>159489912
Leave.

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>>159487929
You are doing this meme wrong.

>No doujin where Nanachi is treated to gourmet food that even food critic cry of joy from for at least 60 pages
>60 pages from start to finish of Nanachi eating delicious food and crying tears of joy
>Entirely sfw except for food porn

All I want to come of the anime.

>>159489777
I knew at least one of you would try the whole 'b-but she just said she wanted to go on adventures, she didn't say she wanted to be anything other than a lump of organs at the time!' technically correct thing.

He's a sociopath that's quite good at mimicking love and affection when it suits his purposes, no one that truly loves or cares for another human being will torture, vivisect, and murder said human beings, let alone their own children, adopted or otherwise. The people that do that sort of thing are what we call "monsters", and such acts are called "betrayals".

But hey, nice trips, I guess it's better to be lucky and facetious than honest and wrong, right?

>>159489590

She was thinking about how this is what she wanted to do even while she was sloshing around in her canister, dying.

He didn't betray her or steal anything. He asked for it and and she gave it.

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>>159489912
You'd be defiling the greatest treasure of the Abyss.

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Daddy's here.

>>159489276
>>>/pol/

>>159489999
Only if it includes tearful memories of the garbage she and Mitty had to eat, and at least one page of further regrets for giving Mitty such tasteless food to eat while they were living alone together (balanced out by an imagined scene of them reunited and eating something delicious together one day in the future).

Anyone else really like the robot noises Reg makes? The sound design is great in general IMO.

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>>159489999
witnessed

>>159489909
You can give complexity without giving all the reasons for it. A complex character doesn't need three chapters of backstory to exactly convey how they got the mindset they currently hold. Merely holding a complex and cohesive mindset that is consistently conveyed at all opportunities by the character shows a depth of character that lends credence that the author thought out this character entirely as an entity rather than just a side note.

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>>159490012
>implying

>>159490135
That's not complexity but your wishful headcanon about Bondrewd. There is literally nothing that makes him something more than mad scientist that is able to do anything for science.

>>159489702

Bondrewd Build?

>Cainhurst helm
>Hunter Set
>Augur
>Blacksky Eye
>Stake Driver+Beast Claws

>>159490361
I want to touch her hat

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>>159489993
This one too.

>>159490367
>it's all headcanon if it isn't explicitly stated
Reading comprehension wasn't your strong suit in school, was it?

haven't watched the first ep yet but i hear the manga has child rape or something. Sounds edgy as fuck

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>>159490512
Yep totally

>>159490512
>but i hear the manga has child rape or something
Well Riko does try to measure the depth of Reg's ass with a ruler.

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>>159490361
>Binge read up the manga after seeing the first episode

She deserved better

>>159490512
Its edgy but the arts great and the characters are interesting enough. The fanbase seems like it is or is on course to become SnK tier

>>159490484
Post transparent Bonezone please.

>>159490512

Maybe you should read it yourself and form your own opinion instead of listening to other people's lies.

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>>159486180
Honestly. I had originally compared this series to Etrian Odyssey III. But now I think Breath Of Fire V is more apt.

>Three man party, you accumulate your second and third over time.
>one party member is blatantly overpowered at great cost. Has limited uses (dragon form)
>one party member is better at support and enemy analysis. Last one to join the group
>game focused on surviving underground environment
>antagonists use technology that is a relic of the past.
>Ultimate goal is just to get to the surface. (Inverse of this story)
Honestly, the battle system of BoFV would also work well with this Manga to a degree. Encounters take place on the same map used for navigation so there are no battle screen transitions. Also there is a great emphasis on using traps to bait difficult enemies into favorable positions.

Why use kids? What about this manga required that kids be used? Purely for emotional manipulation? What's the purpose /a/?

>>159490752
The author likes little boys/girls

>>159490752
Because it's an adventure story. Literally every hero in an adventure story either figuratively or literally starts out as a "Child".

>>159490752
There literally doesn't seem to be any reason other than that they're easier to control, cheaper to feed, and easier to abduct off the streets without people noticing.

Making the whole 'If you care so much about science, use YOURSELVES as experimental subjects' accusation a perfectly valid one.

>>159490752
You need bigger canteens for adults.

This is going to be AOTS, isn't it?

>>159490817
Bondrewd couldn't canteen his own bodies because they are no longer seen as fully human.

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>>159489651
Yes yes, you're not the only person on the planet to have ever cracked open a book you pretentious fuckwit. The fact that you're even engaged in this argument to such a degree without being able to concretely prove anything is completely defeating your own point. I too enjoy the art of literature, and for a manga character Bondrewd has a great deal of depth to him in numerous regards. If that upsets you so much then I'd like to know what exactly you intend to do with all that frustration. Going to keep whining, most likely?

>>159490752
Because if you steal orphans and raise them they'll grow to love you, which is necessary for the cartridges to work.

>>159490512
>child rape

If by child rape you mean getting SOUP'd or RUG'd then yeah theres a bit of that

how does bun posterior look like?

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>>159490966
>Bondrewd will never be your papa

Why live

>>159490752

Lots of reasons.

They're impressionable, easy to find, nobody loves them or cares about them, they've got nothing to live for until you adopt them, and they're all already dying in excruciating ways before you even meet them, anyway.

So you pick them up, you nurse them back to health, show them what happiness is, give them love and attention, listen to them, remember them...and then, when they are willing to do anything for you...you just put them back into their original position of dying in excrutiating ways. But this time, it's for a cause instead of because the world is a literally a joyless Abyss.

They may have died horribly, but that was going to happen anyway.

>>159490998
you should make the little ones watch it
it will sure leave its mark on them

>>159490752
Most of the Guild's daily income probably comes not from the super valuable artifacts that crop up once in a blue moon when a black or white whistle comes upon something amazing, but from mundane artifacts from the shallower layers that can be obtained in sufficient quantity and at a sufficient rate to be always available when foreign fleets arrive.

Using children to excavate en masse is economical for that. As long as they stay in the 1st layer, the risk is relatively low, and the guild isn't exactly throwing them en masse into the deeper layers.

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>>159489527
>no goals
Thanks for the confirmation on you not knowing shit about Bondrewd since you can't even grasp one of the single most important thing about his character.

>>159490012
>no one that truly loves or cares for another human being will torture, vivisect, and murder said human beings, let alone their own children, adopted or otherwise
you are forgetting the #1 ingredient to create a white whistle. all white whistles have sold a loved one to gain access to the depths of the abyss. don't act high and mighty in a place where your morality has no place.

>>159491178
I guess at some point he was trying to eradicate the monsters but then he went insane

>>159490752
Orphanages don't fund themselves. Would you rather spend the money you get from a 2-3rd grade artifact funding the orphan of delvers you are probably morally expected to support, or would you find them a way to fund themselves?

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I'm seeing you

>>159491257
No, fool. his entire motivation was to find a way to negate the curse for delvers. Anyone with the most basic level of reading comprehension and critical think could figure this out.
Stop speed reading.

>>159491222
>all white whistles have sold a loved one to gain access to the depths of the abyss
You imply that this is necessarily a nefarious act on the part of the future holder of the White Whistle when we literally just saw a chapter where a loved one made themselves a white whistle without the consent or knowledge of the white whistle holder.

>>159491362
and you believe this to be the norm, in a place of ritual sacrifice?

>>159491356
head canon?

>>159491323
>hey kid, wanna play cave explorers?

>>159491406
Well we know the source of exactly two white whistles, and one of them willingly sacrificed himself and the other was given one. So, based on what we know so far, it's not an unreasonable assumption.

So... Do we know what scenes are going to be cut or not?

>>159491038
>>159491222
Man, it sure is a good thing that very few of us on this site will ever actually have children of our own. It's for the best, really.

>>159491504
Why would we know?

>>159491463
bondrewd's expectations are based on the knowledge of the other white whistles. i'll go with him, rather than guesses.

>>159491520

Understanding is not approval, anon.

>>159490012
>'she may have said she wanted it bbut she didn't!'
literal proof that the only people who dislike best dad are pussies, lol.

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>>159491435
He did play that card with the bunny and the other little hobos

>>159491418
>builds an elevator designed to negate the curse on a single individual by putting the burden on another
>miniaturizes the mechanism to to allow himself to survive the curse by using cartridges
>Nanachi, who aided in his experiments remarks that she knows how hard he worked to obtain a body that can survive the curse after they defeat him
He was trying to beat the curse. This is not head canon, you're just stupid as fuck.

>>159490752
The orphanage uses them to collect small time relics around the entrance to pay for their boarding. It's not typically too dangerous, but it's child labor which was incredibly common for a large part of human history. The world is pretty shitty abyss aside, and it's hinted that many wars happen which makes relics that can be used as weapons very valuable. With parents dying, you get a lot of orphaned children. Some of them don't end up in an orphanage and are stuck on the streets. That's where the kids Bondrewd collected came from. And then every now and then you get a kid obsessed with adventure who an experienced adventurer takes under their wing, like Lyza and Ozen did. Everything has an in universe explanation that isn't just dude kids dying shock value.

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I will marry Riko!

>>159491406
I'm not that poster but it's probably the norm. People drop like flies in the abyss, every team of delvers will lose a party member at various points, and it just happens that if someone dies around that particular location they drop a useful item. It's pretty much certain it won't drop if the person is killed against their will.

>>159491651
>Riko will never break a ruler in your ass

Why even live

>>159491651
>necrophilia

>>159491651
r u an abyss?

>>159490367
You're either a speedreader or you're really just not all that bright. If you can namedrop a couple of mad scientists in fiction that have specifically been able to achieve his goals by successfully quantizing human emotion both in himself and others and developing an in-depth and well explained method to utilize it in conjunction with his raw engineering expertise to exploit the rules of the universe, previously thought ineluctable in their machinations as they usually are, and manipulate them to produce overwhelmingly successful results then hell, I am all ears for that because it sounds like a darn good read.

But if the kind of science fiction you're used to is pretty much I'VE BUILT A MACHINE THAT DOES THIS AND NOW I SHALL DO IT BECAUSE SCIENCE HAHAHA then you can save yourself the effort now and stop posting.

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disregard the haters and the faggots, post best dad enjoying a cold beverage with the boys.

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>>159491548
>bondrewd's expectations
Bondrewd expects the sacrifice to willingly give themselves up. He explicitly states it's a requirement, and that it is impossible for someone to become a life-reverberating stone without willing consent.

So while emotional manipulation is certainly in the cards, it's far too presumptuous to assume that every single white whistle was emotionally manipulated or "sold" into willingly sacrificing themselves when the two examples we saw were of people who did so of their own volition.

>>159491651
Tell her that Reg, not us.

使い古された遊園地

I've just ended the first episode, it's fucking subarashi.
The artstyle is faithful to the manga, landscapes are amazing and the OST is beautiful.
I had a big smile on my face all along the episode, I was immediatly absorbed by the vibe and now I'm not sure if my body will be ready for those dark moments who will occur.
Anyway, It will be a great anime.

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Why is Nanachi so smug? She's so fucking cute...

>>159491723
Bondrewd is so far gone in pursuit of the abyss and his secrets that him giving himself up to become a whistle is just something he would do because it benefit him at the time. Prushka was raised her entire life with the express purpose of becoming a vessel for a blessing through her undying love and devotion to her father figure.

>>159491526
I don't know. Someone in the last thread said Nanashi's torture will be cut from the anime.

>>159491634
then why do they try to kill him?

>>159491763
Same here, one of my favorite manga getting an anime this good actually brought tears to my eyes. I was very overjoyed.

>>159491816
>Bondrewd
Regardless, it was not the result of "selling out a loved one."
>Prushka
And yet her whistle was dedicated to Rico, not Bondrewd. And Rico hadn't even wanted her to die, nevermind giving herself up to become a stone.

>>159491857
Because his means are entirely unethical and immoral when viewed through a traditional moral lens. He essentially tortures and experiments on children.
This isn't hard, anon.

>>159491857
Because he was going to disassemble Reg to see how he worked and he wanted Nanachi to be his assistant again.
Which meant their trip to the bottom would be put on an indefinite hold.

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>>159491857
Apparently, little kids don’t like getting into cartridges

>>159491857
Because he also wanted to study reg really, really hard and repossess Nanachi.

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>>159491857
Because they are a rude bunch, papa bond didn't deserve this.

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This is a little girl.

>>159491914
Prushka was a freak incident by all standards. Even Nanachi was surprised that Prushka decided to devote herself to Riko in the end.

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>>159491857
I'm guessing it's because they don't agree with his methods which involve doing some of the most vile and grotesque things to innocent children imaginable, a few of which were friends of theirs, but hey it's anyone's guess.

I've been writing a series of short stories since around 1996 that is basically this anime/manga, but without lolis and shotas, and with more adventure than suffering. The world and general setting are practically identical, with some small deviations, yet I only found out about this anime and manga a few weeks ago.

I was originally inspired by stuff like Laputa and Nausicaa, but the theme of a deep, dangerous, and mysterious place in the world that is hostile to humans and holds ancient secrets that lure them in anyway has always been a dream of mine.

I wanted to write my ideas and setting into actual novels some day, but now I feel like Made in Abyss has already done what I wanted to do, but better than I could ever have expressed it.

>>159491723
i think you're misunderstanding something, perhaps it's because the top delvers are named "white whistles" who carry white whistles (item).
the top delvers have to sacrifice someone in order to gain full access to the abyss. they have to consciously decide that the life of someone who loves them is to be extinguished in exchange for their ambition. riko got a freebie, and bondrewd messed up his; so those don't count. normal morality is meaningless in this situation and all situations dealing with the depths of the abyss.

>>159491966
>squeezing the fluffy cheeks
I've never been so envious in my life.

>>159492046
and reg is feeling her chest

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>>159492046

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>>159491805
Bunny girl not so smug since being molested

>>159492046
reg is getting a handful too

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>>159491966
>>159492089
What are the chances of Reg not popping a raging boner here?

>>159491857

Because he was actively in the process of deconstructing Reg, he wanted Nanachi to come work for him, and he was trying to convince Riko to become a white whistle, literally.

>>159489932
>You only needed a person who would give up everything for you in order to create a White Whistle. In other words, an unconditional devotion.
And where the fuck did you get that from?

>>159492041
I don't think Bondrewd did mess up his, I don't doubt that he could in fact use his whistle if he wanted, but his aim was circumventing the curse entirely so traveling between layers was pointless.

>>159492138
Nanachi is STINKY

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>>159492022
>Prushka was a freak incident by all standards.
By standards you made up.
>Even Nanachi was surprised that Prushka decided to devote herself to Riko in the end.
Nanachi had no idea how a white whistle was made prior to speaking with Bondrewd. There's no reason to think she is the authoritative figure on white whistles compared to Bondrewd, whose explicit requirement is wholehearted consent.

>>159492041
>the top delvers are named "white whistles" who carry white whistles (item).
No shit.
>the top delvers have to sacrifice someone in order to gain full access to the abyss.
Someone has to sacrifice themselves.
>they have to consciously decide that the life of someone who loves them is to be extinguished in exchange for their ambition.
No they fucking don't, as the example you immediately cited as "a freebie" proves. We know nothing about how white whistles are made outside of what Bondrewd tells us and what happened to Prushka, and as you can obviously see the top delvers don't "have" to consciously decide someone has to die. All that matters is that the sacrifice, quoting bondrewd, has "a firm determination to sacrifice everything for the intended user."

I'm sure there are white whistles who manipulated their sacrifice, but as of now there is no reason whatsoever to consider this the norm.

>>159492187
Didn't Bondrewd said he was once the white whistle itself? This is my memory from the TL threads so it might be wrong, I'll have to reread sometime.

>>159492187
i've followed the live translating here, i'm pretty sure they said his whistle wouldn't work, or was useless because he transferred/split his consciousness.

>>159490688
Please. I need it.

>>159492031
>I wanted to write my ideas and setting into actual novels some day, but now I feel like Made in Abyss has already done what I wanted to do, but better than I could ever have expressed it.
20 authors could take the same plot outline and turn it into 20 different stories. Feel inspired instead of outdone. The beautiful imagery of this series should definitely get your imagination going.

>>159492220
>No they fucking don't, as the example you immediately cited as "a freebie" proves
prushka wanted riko to go on, are you daft?

>>159492220
>by standards you made up
An individual raised her entire life to be devoted to a single person ended up, with roundabout one day of meeting them, leaving their final thoughts and devotions with SOMEONE ELSE.

why is the curse so bad anyway?

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>>159492196
Is alright, Riko and Reg force her to take a shower

>>159492250
The original Bondrewd became his own white whistle, yes.

>>159492305
>prushka wanted riko to go on, are you daft?
okay dipshit, name the exact moment where Riko, in your words,
>consciously decide(d) that the life of someone who loves them is to be extinguished in exchange for their ambition.
Someone has to sacrifice themselves for the delver. The delver need not decide on it or even want it, as Rico proves.

>>159492250
He's still the white whistle, his body was the material.
>>159492257
I don't remember reading that.

I got WoW dwarf mining zones vibe.

Also, are the kids prisoners or something?

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>>159492323
Because it does this

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>>159492323

>>159492378
but it doesn't do it if you don't go down?

>>159492321
>An individual raised her entire life to be devoted to a single person ended up, with roundabout one day of meeting them, leaving their final thoughts and devotions with SOMEONE ELSE.
That doesn't in any way prove your point that it is either normal or required for a potential white whistle holder to decide to willingly sacrifice another, unless the vast majority of white whistle holders do the exact same things Bondrewd does (which, judging by Lyza and Ozen, does not appear to be the case).

>>159492418
Opposite

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>>159492418
It doesn't do it if you don't go up.

You're mostly free to go as deep as you want into the abyss, but the moment you go too far in returning, you'll catch the curse.

Im slightly confused regarding the Curse of the Abyss.

My initial assumption was that it took hold as you descend, but apparently it's actually a weird reversal and only acts on those who try to leave - the deeper you go, the worse the effects of leaving are.

There are characters also trying to survive it - but if you're only planning on descending, does it actually matter?

Furry shit

>>159492468
it is the pressure, you have to go up slowly

>>159492472
>does it actually matter
It does if you occasionally run into a staircase or need to jump.

>>159492472
Most explorers do intend on returning. That's why white whistles are so revered and seen as strange, because they have either overcame the curse to return and/or they are willing to descend as far as need be with no prospect of return.

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>>159492472

>>159492547
It seems the abyss curse will fuck you no matter what, going slowly helps?

>All these animeonly fags asking to be spoon feed
Everyone was right, these threads will be shit.

>>159492323
Do you happen to enjoy having blood leaking out of you dick and asshole? This is explained pretty early on, numbnuts. All of the white whistles and anyone else who's ever returned from layer four have canonically experienced extreme rectal bleeding. If you ever make it to the third you can tease Ozen about it, though she'll probably make your asshole bleed in response.

>>159492472
It matters because it's strong
I thought it was a gradual thing but then characters got sick by walking up on a staircase or being flung upwards like 10 meters

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>threads got significantly better after people started talking about Bondrewd
Is there single thing this man can't do?

>>159492472
>she lets you go inside and never wants you to pull out

I wish the Abyss was my mom.

>>159492668
Save us from animefags

>>159492668
Animeonlyfags don't know who the fuck Bondrewd is, so of course the quality of discussion increased

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>caught up on 30 chapters today
I've not been shying away from spoilers and whatnot, but damn it really is a ride.

Whats with the punishment thing? Why does it feel like the kids are in some human trafficking ring?

>>159492568

My assumption is that the White Whistles act as surrogates for the curse and allow whoever they're bonded to weather its effects.

But apparently that's not the case, in which case what's the significance of them being life-reverberating stones?

>>159492621

I thought this was a joke, but if this is actually how it works then damn that's brutal.

>>159486062
Ep1 was pretty average.

>>159492376
Nah, these particular kids are orphans who help their orphanage with a source of income. Most kids are not allowed anywhere near that place. These ones have a special permit and work under the supervision of a veteran. They are all willing and enjoy the opportunity to learn from a master, if they play their cards well it can lead them to a government job.

>>159492547
You will absolutely still get the curse if you move up slowly.

Speed during the ascent might affect exactly what depth you catch the curse, but there's no indication that it affects the severity.

>>159492668
>Is there single thing this man can't do?
Raise a daughter through adulthood?

>>159492731
Read the manga, less than 50 chapters translated.

what happens if you slightly jump at level 7

>>159492732
It is, Riko has caught the burden by walking up some stairs in the 5th layer

>>159492732
>what's the significance of them being life-reverberating stones?
You literally cannot go deeper than the fifth layer without one.

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>>159492707
And your excitement will only go up from there.

>>159492779
You die.

>>159492447
Unless you believe everyone got their whistle by accident, even if the other party if willing the holder had to willingly allow or benefit from their sacrifice. They have to trade the loved one for more abyss adventures.

>>159492779
You die instantly

>>159492547
>>159492608
It looks like going slowly doesn't help, or else it would be brought up more often.

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>all these people asking questions that are already answered in the manga
These threads are gonna be fucking hell.

>>159492747
so the only exit is china... cool

>>159492668

Use his whistle?

>>159492803
>>159492821
I feel like it has to have some sort of leniancy, Lyza has been down there for years fighting who knows what, and to assume she hasn't jumped in all that time is silly. She's obviously stuck down there, but I assume you aren't under constant threat of the curse at 7.

>>159492779
If you raise your eyebrows they fucking explode out of your face.

>>159486062
it's like 720p though

>>159492789

That doesn't make sense reeee

So there's a separate, non-curse entity that also prevents further descent past the fifth layer? And needs bonded soul shenanigans OR someone with the blessing to pass?

Am i getting that right?

Can we just stop answering questions and tell people to go away until they read the manga? All this shit is answered in the translation threads.

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>>159492923
READ THE FUCKING MANGA

>>159492876
There's time dilation also. For Lyza she's only been at the bottom for a few days while the surface has had years pass

>>159492923
You need to listen Daft Punk to pass

>>159492819
>Unless you believe everyone got their whistle by accident,
It. Can. Not. Be. An Accident.
That's what Bondrewd fucking said. Prushka didn't "accidentally" become Riko's whistle, you have to be , as stated by Bondrewd, was wholly devoted to the person they died for, I'm more willing to believe that significant number of the sacrifices willingly chose to do so.
>even if the other party if willing the holder had to willingly allow [or benefit from] their sacrifice.
The "or benefit" part is true, because every white whistle could not have gone farther without it, so obviously it benefits.

But cite a single part of the manga that ever says
>the holder had to willingly allow their sacrifice.
Because Riko sure as hell didn't and explicitly refutes your statement.

>>159492923
You'll need a white whistle to activate the ''elevator'', it's not an entity.

>animeonlyfags ask to be spoonfeed
>anon made up dumb lies
>they believe it since they haven't read the manga
Oh boy.

>>159492706
I wanted to refrain from reading the mango until all 13 episodes aired, but that seems to be impossible if you also want to participate in the threads on /a/, so I went and read for a couple hours up to the fight with bongdewd.

>>159492923
Why are you spoiling yourself in the worst possible way?

Either read the manga so you can spoil yourself properly or get out of those threads and just fucking watch the anime, retard.

By asking stupid questions such as yours you ruin the surprise of what happens AND you're stuck with incomplete second-hand knowledge, the worst of both worlds.

Retard.

THEY WILL FIND A GOLD MINE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ABYSS.

>>159491721
oh my
oh my my my my my my my my

>>159493038
A golden city, actually.

>>159492731
The kids are just cheap labor to the orphanage, but it's a place to stay and be cared for. It's why they really don't want them taking any findings for themselves and keep a sharp eye on them. They want to make a profit, but you can also extrapolate that they don't want kids being able to afford getting out of there. The leader is really kind and the headmistress doesn't seem too bad, but the orphanage has a torture room for a reason. People act like it starts cute but things are plenty dark on the surface.

>very moe
>very mutilated
>very dead

>>159493003

So you can travel past normally, it's just geographically not viable as indicated by the diagram.

That makes sense.

>>159493054
a city filled with people who cannot go up, and since gold is abundant it is useless to them

>>159493083
You can't, jesus christ just read it you autist.

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>>159491857
Because they are unable to comprehend his work except on the lowest emotional level, primal fear and hatred. And because he's too soft to treat them accordingly. He has a critical weakness for Nanachi, is blind for the threat she actually represents.

Nanachi is full of hatred and evil thoughts, she just wants him dead. He doesn't realize that, tries to recruit her into voluntary service when he should use raw force against her. With her out of the game, processing Riko and preparing the robot for further studies would have been trivial. His love for Nanachi was his downfall.

>>159489416
>tricking children into being test subjects and dissecting them against their will
>not wrong

>>159493083
The fifth layer is called "Sea of corpses" for a reason.

>>159493193
Why did General Grievous turn into a girl?

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>>159492853
I can't speak moon so I made up text.

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>>159493181

>>159493193
>Love was...made in abyss after all

I saw people on twitter freaking out because of some spoiler in the manga and how it will ruin the anime for them, what are they talking about?

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>>159493054
and then they're gonna destroy it in the same episode

>>159493305
riko dies
but it is obvious

>>159493305
Who knows, my best guess is Riko being a zombie but I can't see how this will literally ruin the anime for them.

>>159493062

B-but anon. The children, their cheeks are so chubby. Nobody could have foreseen suffering in a show about orphan children doing hard labor in a bottomless pit.

They lied to us, we were totally faked out!

>>159493305
They are one of the following;
>Ignorant of the true nature of the story
>Never read the manga, but heard of it from the four chapters that were translated for months
>Never heard of it until they saw the PV or announcement

Whatever it is, if they expect cute and cheery adventure with children finding magic artifacts, they're looking at the wrong series. Shit's going into Roguelike territory the moment they leave Orth, and the wild ride has no brakes.

reminds me of this french anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxeKLy-Yz38

>They reach the bottom of the Abyss
>It's empty. Like, a giant, empty field, obscured by a thick cloud
>Below the cloud is a flat surface with flowers and an ancient message
>Riko knows how to read it
>"The true treasure at the bottom of the Abyss is the Heart."
>Written by Tite Kubo

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N-na, Reg, don't you want to touch my fluff too?

Travelling the evil back to you
To a land so far away
I feel the distance inbetween
A fragment of the world that used to be
Speaking through the river stream
(Calling to me ???)
Though I know just What I am
Who i could be is a mystery to some
(??)
I shall find (??)
The only one I ??


Anyone able to fill in the blanks? (?) denotes the backround speakers

Anyone have a good cutout of Prushka's helmet?
I'll settle for cutting it out myself if I have to, if you have a good picture of it with her under it.

I just wanted to clarify that Boned Dude CAN use his whistle.
It's just that he can't use his Praying Hands/himself to stuff into cartridges to take on the curse anymore because they're not considered human, which is why he uses kids.

>>159493467
>they reach the bottom of the abyss
>it just opens to another hole opening on the other side of the world with an entirely different town

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>>159493502
>touch my fluff
Oh god I want a mouthful of Riko's fluff.

>>159493560
>Riko, Reg, and Nanachi dig through
>They appear in a modern city
>Several Marvel superheroes show up due to reports of Moloids

>>159493467
>wow thanks for dooming me mom

Is Riko, dare I say, the loli of the season?

I've watched the episode like 10 times already. I'm just excited to see MiA animated.
I'm still worried that they might skip too much, but I'm hopeful that they'll get the missed lore in episode 2 by having it be part of Reg's schooling (which the manga glossed over).

>>159493553
if he's not Creature - Human, why does the curse affect him at all? he wasn't experimenting to become mofuwa king, he was searchng for a method to get immune to the curse

>>159493648
Give it a few episodes. Girl of the Year will make her debut soon.

>>159493595
>Is this the land of the gods?
>Riko, Reg and Nanachi get shot down by a tank, causing their corpse dust to fly away into the wind, spreading it all over the planet causing the abyss to spread all over modern-day Tokyo

>>159493206

Are you referring to Reg? The artifact, Reg? The robot, Reg? The inorganic being? The machine, Reg? Pinocchio, Reg?

Or are you referring to the children in the canisters, who explicitly have to be willing participants in order for them to function as canisters?

>>159493671
IIRC the curse affects creatures too, don't they?
It's just that they can detect it and avoid the strong effects sometimes.

>last year's best ost was Shakunetsu no Takkyu Musume
>this year's is Made in Abyss
Kinema Citrus really knows how to choose their shit.

>>159493660
I hope they will skip all the explanations so people will have to read the manga

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>reach the bottom of the abyss
>all black, and just one button in the middle
>press it
>epic music starts playing
>"New abyss discovered"

>>159493700
The children don't have to be willing to suck up the curse
They have to love the another target to give them fluffy goodness

>>159493727
I assume this is /v/shit, in which case, you should go back to /v/.

>>159493721
But then what's the point?
Of course I love the manga, but I want to see the stuff I love animated.
I remember when getting an anime for your favorite manga was the dream.
I get why people think like you, though. ANy amount of "mainstream" attention nowadays invites cancer into the fanbase.
I don't know if that trade-off is worth it, but I still want to see a fully done adaptation.

>>159493671
The bodies Bondrewd uses are still somewhat alive, it's natural for him to get affected by the curse. Though he can just switch to another body like in the fight where Reg smashed him after making him take the curse.

>>159493523
anyone?

Don't get why they don't sub over OP's/ED's anymore

If the method to create a White Whistle is ascending from the 6th layer while loving/thinking strongly of someone else and wishing them to survive/progress on their journey, then why did Mitty absorb Nanachi's curse and gave her the blessing, instead of turning herself into Nanachi's White Whistle?

>MiA threads are unreadable trash
disappointing but expected

>>159493897
what the fuck ? That's not how white whistles are made, re-read it.

>>159493897
So many things you said were wrong that I don't even know where to start

>>159493897
Because you weren't fucking paying attention when you were speed reading.

>>159493897
Because she didn't die

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>>159493305

>>159493897
If mitty wasnt vaporized into atoms there might have been a LRS inside of her

I was sold by the adaptation when blonde-glasses loli was punted far by giant snake-manta.

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>>159493975
>loli spilling noises

>>159493704
it might be that, I'm not exactly sure if that was explained really thoroughly, I remember Nanachi saying stuff about the curse field acting like cloth and how you disturb it when you go upwards
but I don't really remember how it works for creatures of the abyss, I mean most of them don't really move far upwards from their habitats but take the flyer beast that Reg defended Riko from at the very start of the manga, didn't it move from like 3rd layer? shouldn't it be bleeding from every orifice?
though most curse effects have something to do with psyche, and more bodily-oriented ones may only work against humans as they are not from Abyss, what I mean is that animals living in the abyss could simply have adapted via evolution
do I have to fucking reread it after month of reading it? inb4
>not having read it 20 times already
>shiggydiggy

>>159493553

Didn't he say that because he's switched his soul out so many times, the whistle no longer resonates with him?

Because it no longer recognizes his soul.

>>159493718
>implying it isn't LWA
Say what you want about the rest of the show buts its OST is fantastic.

>>159493838
>Though he can just switch to another body like in the fight where Reg smashed him after making him take the curse.
there is still some debate over the wording of the zoaholic but one interpretation is that each praying hand is a separate instance of Bondrewd rather than a part of a collective network. If that is the case then each instance of is willing to kill themselves for the benefit of the greater cause. Which also fits with his character since he himself sacrificed his original body and original life to create his own white whistle

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>reach bottom of the Abyss
>there's a man-sized '@' symbol waiting at the bottom in a barren, dark room
>it charges straight for Reg, Riko and Nanachi

>>159494058
They mentioned that the abyss veil is thinner the further from the center of the abyss, also some creatures are just immune to it, or just shrug it off

>>159494085
Pretty sure it was highly implied that there was only 1 main consciousness

Is bondrewd the King Crimson of Made In Abyss?

IT JUST WORKS

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The curse kicks in at around 10 metres.

Simply jumping normally is harmless.

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>>159493502
has science gone too far?

>>159494285
thicc

>>159493771

>They have to love the another target to give them fluffy goodness

And how do they give them fluffy goodness? By taking in all the effects of the curse themselves, for the sake of the other person. They make themselves into a curse sponge. That's why, if the kid absorbing the curses dies, the person left alive gets the rest of the curse.

Nanachi only got blessed because Mitty lived.

The other End Results you see were not sponges, like Mitty. They were failed Blessed Ones. The other sponges all died.

>>159494276
Nanachi almost looks like a boy in that last panel.