Episode is already out and this:
> Reminds me of Undertake
> Not Megaman Legends.
Why on earth are they reminded of that game and not this game?
How big is it, anons? Don't count manga pages, that's cheating
We've only just started the first episode and haven't even gone that far yet, but they say this shit right at the start. Seriously, there's little-to-no connections you can make.
I've been away from /a/ for a bit, is shilling your discord the new cool thing the kids do?
Around 130 not counting manga pages.
it's a crap transparency but have fun
Are you that transparent anon from the earlier threads, can I have another request please? I think hime on the second panel will be fairly easy to do.
And now the transparency is lightly better!
paint.net? I, too, gained a little magic wand knowledge recently.
It might even have 14 episodes according to some official streaming sites. But the box set info only lists 13 episodes and there are only 2 parts to the box set. Ep. 14 could be an ONA that only airs online, obviously, or it will come bundled in the future with a manga volume as an OVA.
It's all fun and games until layer 4.
Anime is skipping a lot of content and details, though.
I will never understand this new post-edgy fad. He is objectively and universally wrong and dangerous to humans and yet he is treated like some sort of controversial hero.
What is this even supposed to mean. This manga isn't even edgy. You can't have a story with dark themes anymore without people screaming about how immature it is. It's like we've entered bizarro world.
Yup just graduated from mspaint to paint.net, a stepping stone on my way to photoshop.
>he is wrong because I say so
At least come up with something if you want have a proper talk. Bondrewd was the reason we had all those thought inducing talks because of how pure and clear yet so complex his character is. Now, please elaborate.
If anywhere is likely to develop an anime-mengele fanclub, it's 4chan, anon.
(Complete with 'Anime Mengele did nothing wrong!' and 'Anime Mengele is the deepest character in all of anime!', to boot.)
You said it, captcha.
This is Reg imagination, right? See he is not that lewd, just dreams with bunnies
The power of Orth only reaches down to layer 1, maybe 2. Just as far as regular patrols are possible. Where the white whistles go, only the abyss' own laws matter. Misbehave and you end up as monster food or as a red smear on a cave wall. No appeal, no pardon. Survival makes right. That's all.
Meep, I don't think I'd feel good about dropping 130$+ per year on a program I use for shitposting. I mean I'd buy it automatically if my job was graphic design but it's not the case. Are the updates that important?
Already been done. Quite literally actually.
I have a cs6 licence for creative suite, but when I used my universities Creative cloud licence for other software it overwrite my cs6 ownership. Now that I've graduated I can't access any of my software withkut reactivating my license even though I own it.
Adobe have been shady as fuck with the creative cloud rollout and extremely unhelpful with resolving the issue. I have to reinstall everything from scratch after removing every trace of CC from my system even though I can't find my old install discs.
FUCK Adobe. Their customer reps have just been trying to strong arm me into reupping CC rather than fixing my goddamn CS6
He wasn't wrong, though.
The son of a bitch managed to quantify an abstract concept like love and use it to overcome the burden of the 6th layer, something that results in death or the loss of humanity (with extremely rare exceptions).
Not only did he overcome the burden he even figured out how to receive the ONLY the blessing of the Abyss to become he cutest.
The only thing he did wrong was get beaten by a sentient murder bot/artifact, the daughter of the most bloodthirsty White Whistle in history, and Nanachi.
- Loli spelunking adventures featuring roboshota and bunny
- I want Ozen to be my mom
- Posing science man did nothing wrong
So pretentious as always.
Bondrewd is just your everyday mad scientist that puts science above everything. That's wrong already since he is willing to sacrifice anything just to feed his own curiosity (and share some leftovers with his donators).
His only redeeming point is, that he sacrifices even himself, but that's nothing out of ordinary since basically every whitewhistle does it.
>such a complex character
He has some extravagant feats so he is not generic but he is far from being complex. No backstory, no goals, no insight. You can't get complex character just from few chapters.
>The only thing he did wrong was get beaten by a sentient murder bot/artifact, the daughter of the most bloodthirsty White Whistle in history, and Nanachi.
a good father lets his daughter win sometimes, when she deserves it. he did nothing wrong
He was wrong because he betrayed his daughter's love and stole her future from her, the ultimate betrayal and failure a father can ever achieve.
He is worst dad, not best, despite what the stunted anons around here have been burbling about since the most recent translated chapters were posted.
aren't earlier versions free now?
You can do simple editing with paint.net or gimp, but you need plugins for every second thing.
Enough for him to be memorable, but not really to make him a complex character. If you want a complex character, read Paradise Lost or watch Shinsekai Yori. Boned Dude is not one. Jesus Christ, you're all plebbit tier with how you react to things in a good manga. But it's an "obscure" manga so its ok.
To be fair Akihito legitimately has bloodborne concept art pictures on his pixiv, so chances are his designs are somewhat affected by that. And there is nothing wrong with that, it was a good game with great art direction, and has some heavy dungeoneering-in-the-middle-of-cursed-catacombs themes with Tomb Prospectors, as well as mad scientists dissecting people to use their organs for the greater cause and so on.
It'd also be relatively simple to make an ingame bonerlewd cosplay.
I think you can only glean complexity if it is explicitly conveyed to you through text. It's like arguing a movie cannot have complex characters because there just cannot be enough exposition given to them.
Nanachi's faces are always the best part
You only needed a person who would give up everything for you in order to create a White Whistle. In other words, an unconditional devotion. Similarly, a devotion to give up everything for another person is needed to take on the curse and negate its negative effects.
Bondrewd manipulated the system and instead used the devotion of those children to shield himself from the burden. He tricked them into doing this which is incredibly fucked up and cruel even if the character himself isn't a spiteful person.
You are doing this meme wrong.
>No doujin where Nanachi
is treated to gourmet food that even food critic cry of joy from for at least 60 pages
60 pages from start to finish of Nanachi eating delicious food and crying tears of joy
Entirely sfw except for food porn
All I want to come of the anime.
I knew at least one of you would try the whole 'b-but she just said she wanted to go on adventures, she didn't say she wanted to be anything other than a lump of organs at the time!' technically correct thing.
He's a sociopath that's quite good at mimicking love and affection when it suits his purposes, no one that truly loves or cares for another human being will torture, vivisect, and murder said human beings, let alone their own children, adopted or otherwise. The people that do that sort of thing are what we call "monsters", and such acts are called "betrayals".
But hey, nice trips, I guess it's better to be lucky and facetious than honest and wrong, right?
She was thinking about how this is what she wanted to do even while she was sloshing around in her canister, dying.
He didn't betray her or steal anything. He asked for it and and she gave it.
You'd be defiling the greatest treasure of the Abyss.
Only if it includes tearful memories of the garbage she and Mitty had to eat, and at least one page of further regrets for giving Mitty such tasteless food to eat while they were living alone together (balanced out by an imagined scene of them reunited and eating something delicious together one day in the future).
You can give complexity without giving all the reasons for it. A complex character doesn't need three chapters of backstory to exactly convey how they got the mindset they currently hold. Merely holding a complex and cohesive mindset that is consistently conveyed at all opportunities by the character shows a depth of character that lends credence that the author thought out this character entirely as an entity rather than just a side note.
That's not complexity but your wishful headcanon about Bondrewd. There is literally nothing that makes him something more than mad scientist that is able to do anything for science.
>Binge read up the manga after seeing the first episode
She deserved better
Honestly. I had originally compared this series to Etrian Odyssey III. But now I think Breath Of Fire V is more apt.
>Three man party, you accumulate your second and third over time.
>one party member is blatantly overpowered at great cost. Has limited uses (dragon form)
>one party member is better at support and enemy analysis. Last one to join the group
>game focused on surviving underground environment
>antagonists use technology that is a relic of the past.
>Ultimate goal is just to get to the surface. (Inverse of this story)
Honestly, the battle system of BoFV would also work well with this Manga to a degree. Encounters take place on the same map used for navigation so there are no battle screen transitions. Also there is a great emphasis on using traps to bait difficult enemies into favorable positions.
There literally doesn't seem to be any reason other than that they're easier to control, cheaper to feed, and easier to abduct off the streets without people noticing.
Making the whole 'If you care so much about science, use YOURSELVES as experimental subjects' accusation a perfectly valid one.
Yes yes, you're not the only person on the planet to have ever cracked open a book you pretentious fuckwit. The fact that you're even engaged in this argument to such a degree without being able to concretely prove anything is completely defeating your own point. I too enjoy the art of literature, and for a manga character Bondrewd has a great deal of depth to him in numerous regards. If that upsets you so much then I'd like to know what exactly you intend to do with all that frustration. Going to keep whining, most likely?
>Bondrewd will never be your papa
Lots of reasons.
They're impressionable, easy to find, nobody loves them or cares about them, they've got nothing to live for until you adopt them, and they're all already dying in excruciating ways before you even meet them, anyway.
So you pick them up, you nurse them back to health, show them what happiness is, give them love and attention, listen to them, remember them...and then, when they are willing to do anything for you...you just put them back into their original position of dying in excrutiating ways. But this time, it's for a cause instead of because the world is a literally a joyless Abyss.
They may have died horribly, but that was going to happen anyway.
Most of the Guild's daily income probably comes not from the super valuable artifacts that crop up once in a blue moon when a black or white whistle comes upon something amazing, but from mundane artifacts from the shallower layers that can be obtained in sufficient quantity and at a sufficient rate to be always available when foreign fleets arrive.
Using children to excavate en masse is economical for that. As long as they stay in the 1st layer, the risk is relatively low, and the guild isn't exactly throwing them en masse into the deeper layers.
Thanks for the confirmation on you not knowing shit about Bondrewd since you can't even grasp one of the single most important thing about his character.
>no one that truly loves or cares for another human being will torture, vivisect, and murder said human beings, let alone their own children, adopted or otherwise
you are forgetting the #1 ingredient to create a white whistle. all white whistles have sold a loved one to gain access to the depths of the abyss. don't act high and mighty in a place where your morality has no place.
Orphanages don't fund themselves. Would you rather spend the money you get from a 2-3rd grade artifact funding the orphan of delvers you are probably morally expected to support, or would you find them a way to fund themselves?
No, fool. his entire motivation was to find a way to negate the curse for delvers. Anyone with the most basic level of reading comprehension and critical think could figure this out.
Stop speed reading.
>all white whistles have sold a loved one to gain access to the depths of the abyss
You imply that this is necessarily a nefarious act on the part of the future holder of the White Whistle when we literally just saw a chapter where a loved one made themselves a white whistle without the consent or knowledge of the white whistle holder.
Well we know the source of exactly two white whistles, and one of them willingly sacrificed himself and the other was given one. So, based on what we know so far, it's not an unreasonable assumption.
He did play that card with the bunny and the other little hobos
>builds an elevator designed to negate the curse on a single individual by putting the burden on another
>miniaturizes the mechanism to to allow himself to survive the curse by using cartridges
>Nanachi, who aided in his experiments remarks that she knows how hard he worked to obtain a body that can survive the curse after they defeat him
He was trying to beat the curse. This is not head canon, you're just stupid as fuck.
The orphanage uses them to collect small time relics around the entrance to pay for their boarding. It's not typically too dangerous, but it's child labor which was incredibly common for a large part of human history. The world is pretty shitty abyss aside, and it's hinted that many wars happen which makes relics that can be used as weapons very valuable. With parents dying, you get a lot of orphaned children. Some of them don't end up in an orphanage and are stuck on the streets. That's where the kids Bondrewd collected came from. And then every now and then you get a kid obsessed with adventure who an experienced adventurer takes under their wing, like Lyza and Ozen did. Everything has an in universe explanation that isn't just dude kids dying shock value.
I'm not that poster but it's probably the norm. People drop like flies in the abyss, every team of delvers will lose a party member at various points, and it just happens that if someone dies around that particular location they drop a useful item. It's pretty much certain it won't drop if the person is killed against their will.
You're either a speedreader or you're really just not all that bright. If you can namedrop a couple of mad scientists in fiction that have specifically been able to achieve his goals by successfully quantizing human emotion both in himself and others and developing an in-depth and well explained method to utilize it in conjunction with his raw engineering expertise to exploit the rules of the universe, previously thought ineluctable in their machinations as they usually are, and manipulate them to produce overwhelmingly successful results then hell, I am all ears for that because it sounds like a darn good read.
But if the kind of science fiction you're used to is pretty much I'VE BUILT A MACHINE THAT DOES THIS AND NOW I SHALL DO IT BECAUSE SCIENCE HAHAHA then you can save yourself the effort now and stop posting.
disregard the haters and the faggots, post best dad enjoying a cold beverage with the boys.
Bondrewd expects the sacrifice to willingly give themselves up. He explicitly states it's a requirement, and that it is impossible for someone to become a life-reverberating stone without willing consent.
So while emotional manipulation is certainly in the cards, it's far too presumptuous to assume that every single white whistle was emotionally manipulated or "sold" into willingly sacrificing themselves when the two examples we saw were of people who did so of their own volition.
I've just ended the first episode, it's fucking subarashi.
The artstyle is faithful to the manga, landscapes are amazing and the OST is beautiful.
I had a big smile on my face all along the episode, I was immediatly absorbed by the vibe and now I'm not sure if my body will be ready for those dark moments who will occur.
Anyway, It will be a great anime.
Bondrewd is so far gone in pursuit of the abyss and his secrets that him giving himself up to become a whistle is just something he would do because it benefit him at the time. Prushka was raised her entire life with the express purpose of becoming a vessel for a blessing through her undying love and devotion to her father figure.
Regardless, it was not the result of "selling out a loved one."
And yet her whistle was dedicated to Rico, not Bondrewd. And Rico hadn't even wanted her to die, nevermind giving herself up to become a stone.
Because he was going to disassemble Reg to see how he worked and he wanted Nanachi to be his assistant again.
Which meant their trip to the bottom would be put on an indefinite hold.
Apparently, little kids don’t like getting into cartridges
Because they are a rude bunch, papa bond didn't deserve this.
I'm guessing it's because they don't agree with his methods which involve doing some of the most vile and grotesque things to innocent children imaginable, a few of which were friends of theirs, but hey it's anyone's guess.
I've been writing a series of short stories since around 1996 that is basically this anime/manga, but without lolis and shotas, and with more adventure than suffering. The world and general setting are practically identical, with some small deviations, yet I only found out about this anime and manga a few weeks ago.
I was originally inspired by stuff like Laputa and Nausicaa, but the theme of a deep, dangerous, and mysterious place in the world that is hostile to humans and holds ancient secrets that lure them in anyway has always been a dream of mine.
I wanted to write my ideas and setting into actual novels some day, but now I feel like Made in Abyss has already done what I wanted to do, but better than I could ever have expressed it.
i think you're misunderstanding something, perhaps it's because the top delvers are named "white whistles" who carry white whistles (item).
the top delvers have to sacrifice someone in order to gain full access to the abyss. they have to consciously decide that the life of someone who loves them is to be extinguished in exchange for their ambition. riko got a freebie, and bondrewd messed up his; so those don't count. normal morality is meaningless in this situation and all situations dealing with the depths of the abyss.
Bunny girl not so smug since being molested
What are the chances of Reg not popping a raging boner here?
>You only needed a person who would give up everything for you in order to create a White Whistle. In other words, an unconditional devotion.
And where the fuck did you get that from?
I don't think Bondrewd did mess up his, I don't doubt that he could in fact use his whistle if he wanted, but his aim was circumventing the curse entirely so traveling between layers was pointless.
>Prushka was a freak incident by all standards.
By standards you made up.
>Even Nanachi was surprised that Prushka decided to devote herself to Riko in the end.
Nanachi had no idea how a white whistle was made prior to speaking with Bondrewd. There's no reason to think she is the authoritative figure on white whistles compared to Bondrewd, whose explicit requirement is wholehearted consent.
>the top delvers are named "white whistles" who carry white whistles (item).
>the top delvers have to sacrifice someone in order to gain full access to the abyss.
Someone has to sacrifice themselves.
>they have to consciously decide that the life of someone who loves them is to be extinguished in exchange for their ambition.
No they fucking don't, as the example you immediately cited as "a freebie" proves. We know nothing about how white whistles are made outside of what Bondrewd tells us and what happened to Prushka, and as you can obviously see the top delvers don't "have" to consciously decide someone has to die. All that matters is that the sacrifice, quoting bondrewd, has "a firm determination to sacrifice everything for the intended user."
I'm sure there are white whistles who manipulated their sacrifice, but as of now there is no reason whatsoever to consider this the norm.
>I wanted to write my ideas and setting into actual novels some day, but now I feel like Made in Abyss has already done what I wanted to do, but better than I could ever have expressed it.
20 authors could take the same plot outline and turn it into 20 different stories. Feel inspired instead of outdone. The beautiful imagery of this series should definitely get your imagination going.
>by standards you made up
An individual raised her entire life to be devoted to a single person ended up, with roundabout one day of meeting them, leaving their final thoughts and devotions with SOMEONE ELSE.
Is alright, Riko and Reg force her to take a shower
>prushka wanted riko to go on, are you daft?
okay dipshit, name the exact moment where Riko, in your words,
>consciously decide(d) that the life of someone who loves them is to be extinguished in exchange for their ambition.
Someone has to sacrifice themselves for the delver. The delver need not decide on it or even want it, as Rico proves.
>An individual raised her entire life to be devoted to a single person ended up, with roundabout one day of meeting them, leaving their final thoughts and devotions with SOMEONE ELSE.
That doesn't in any way prove your point that it is either normal or required for a potential white whistle holder to decide to willingly sacrifice another, unless the vast majority of white whistle holders do the exact same things Bondrewd does (which, judging by Lyza and Ozen, does not appear to be the case).
It doesn't do it if you don't go up.
You're mostly free to go as deep as you want into the abyss, but the moment you go too far in returning, you'll catch the curse.
Im slightly confused regarding the Curse of the Abyss.
My initial assumption was that it took hold as you descend, but apparently it's actually a weird reversal and only acts on those who try to leave - the deeper you go, the worse the effects of leaving are.
There are characters also trying to survive it - but if you're only planning on descending, does it actually matter?
Most explorers do intend on returning. That's why white whistles are so revered and seen as strange, because they have either overcame the curse to return and/or they are willing to descend as far as need be with no prospect of return.
Do you happen to enjoy having blood leaking out of you dick and asshole? This is explained pretty early on, numbnuts. All of the white whistles and anyone else who's ever returned from layer four have canonically experienced extreme rectal bleeding. If you ever make it to the third you can tease Ozen about it, though she'll probably make your asshole bleed in response.
>threads got significantly better after people started talking about Bondrewd
Is there single thing this man can't do?
>caught up on 30 chapters today
I've not been shying away from spoilers and whatnot, but damn it really is a ride.
My assumption is that the White Whistles act as surrogates for the curse and allow whoever they're bonded to weather its effects.
But apparently that's not the case, in which case what's the significance of them being life-reverberating stones?
I thought this was a joke, but if this is actually how it works then damn that's brutal.
Nah, these particular kids are orphans who help their orphanage with a source of income. Most kids are not allowed anywhere near that place. These ones have a special permit and work under the supervision of a veteran. They are all willing and enjoy the opportunity to learn from a master, if they play their cards well it can lead them to a government job.
You will absolutely still get the curse if you move up slowly.
Speed during the ascent might affect exactly what depth you catch the curse, but there's no indication that it affects the severity.
And your excitement will only go up from there.
Unless you believe everyone got their whistle by accident, even if the other party if willing the holder had to willingly allow or benefit from their sacrifice. They have to trade the loved one for more abyss adventures.
>all these people asking questions that are already answered in the manga
These threads are gonna be fucking hell.
I feel like it has to have some sort of leniancy, Lyza has been down there for years fighting who knows what, and to assume she hasn't jumped in all that time is silly. She's obviously stuck down there, but I assume you aren't under constant threat of the curse at 7.
That doesn't make sense reeee
So there's a separate, non-curse entity that also prevents further descent past the fifth layer? And needs bonded soul shenanigans OR someone with the blessing to pass?
Am i getting that right?
>Unless you believe everyone got their whistle by accident,
It. Can. Not. Be. An Accident.
That's what Bondrewd fucking said. Prushka didn't "accidentally" become Riko's whistle, you have to be , as stated by Bondrewd, was wholly devoted to the person they died for, I'm more willing to believe that significant number of the sacrifices willingly chose to do so.
>even if the other party if willing the holder had to willingly allow [or benefit from] their sacrifice.
The "or benefit" part is true, because every white whistle could not have gone farther without it, so obviously it benefits.
But cite a single part of the manga that ever says
>the holder had to willingly allow their sacrifice.
Because Riko sure as hell didn't and explicitly refutes your statement.
I wanted to refrain from reading the mango until all 13 episodes aired, but that seems to be impossible if you also want to participate in the threads on /a/, so I went and read for a couple hours up to the fight with bongdewd.
Why are you spoiling yourself in the worst possible way?
Either read the manga so you can spoil yourself properly or get out of those threads and just fucking watch the anime, retard.
By asking stupid questions such as yours you ruin the surprise of what happens AND you're stuck with incomplete second-hand knowledge, the worst of both worlds.
The kids are just cheap labor to the orphanage, but it's a place to stay and be cared for. It's why they really don't want them taking any findings for themselves and keep a sharp eye on them. They want to make a profit, but you can also extrapolate that they don't want kids being able to afford getting out of there. The leader is really kind and the headmistress doesn't seem too bad, but the orphanage has a torture room for a reason. People act like it starts cute but things are plenty dark on the surface.
Because they are unable to comprehend his work except on the lowest emotional level, primal fear and hatred. And because he's too soft to treat them accordingly. He has a critical weakness for Nanachi, is blind for the threat she actually represents.
Nanachi is full of hatred and evil thoughts, she just wants him dead. He doesn't realize that, tries to recruit her into voluntary service when he should use raw force against her. With her out of the game, processing Riko and preparing the robot for further studies would have been trivial. His love for Nanachi was his downfall.
I can't speak moon so I made up text.
and then they're gonna destroy it in the same episode
B-but anon. The children, their cheeks are so chubby. Nobody could have foreseen suffering in a show about orphan children doing hard labor in a bottomless pit.
They lied to us, we were totally faked out!
They are one of the following;
>Ignorant of the true nature of the story
>Never read the manga, but heard of it from the four chapters that were translated for months
>Never heard of it until they saw the PV or announcement
Whatever it is, if they expect cute and cheery adventure with children finding magic artifacts, they're looking at the wrong series. Shit's going into Roguelike territory the moment they leave Orth, and the wild ride has no brakes.
>They reach the bottom of the Abyss
>It's empty. Like, a giant, empty field, obscured by a thick cloud
>Below the cloud is a flat surface with flowers and an ancient message
>Riko knows how to read it
>"The true treasure at the bottom of the Abyss is the Heart."
Written by Tite Kubo
N-na, Reg, don't you want to touch my fluff too?
Travelling the evil back to you
To a land so far away
I feel the distance inbetween
A fragment of the world that used to be
Speaking through the river stream
(Calling to me ???)
Though I know just What I am
Who i could be is a mystery to some
I shall find (??)
The only one I ??
Anyone able to fill in the blanks? (?) denotes the backround speakers
I just wanted to clarify that Boned Dude CAN use his whistle.
It's just that he can't use his Praying Hands/himself to stuff into cartridges to take on the curse anymore because they're not considered human, which is why he uses kids.
>touch my fluff
Oh god I want a mouthful of Riko's fluff.
I've watched the episode like 10 times already. I'm just excited to see MiA animated.
I'm still worried that they might skip too much, but I'm hopeful that they'll get the missed lore in episode 2 by having it be part of Reg's schooling (which the manga glossed over).
>Is this the land of the gods?
>Riko, Reg and Nanachi get shot down by a tank, causing their corpse dust to fly away into the wind, spreading it all over the planet causing the abyss to spread all over modern-day Tokyo
Are you referring to Reg? The artifact, Reg? The robot, Reg? The inorganic being? The machine, Reg? Pinocchio, Reg?
Or are you referring to the children in the canisters, who explicitly have to be willing participants in order for them to function as canisters?
>reach the bottom of the abyss
>all black, and just one button in the middle
>epic music starts playing
>"New abyss discovered"
But then what's the point?
Of course I love the manga, but I want to see the stuff I love animated.
I remember when getting an anime for your favorite manga was the dream.
I get why people think like you, though. ANy amount of "mainstream" attention nowadays invites cancer into the fanbase.
I don't know if that trade-off is worth it, but I still want to see a fully done adaptation.
The bodies Bondrewd uses are still somewhat alive, it's natural for him to get affected by the curse. Though he can just switch to another body like in the fight where Reg smashed him after making him take the curse.
If the method to create a White Whistle is ascending from the 6th layer while loving/thinking strongly of someone else and wishing them to survive/progress on their journey, then why did Mitty absorb Nanachi's curse and gave her the blessing, instead of turning herself into Nanachi's White Whistle?
it might be that, I'm not exactly sure if that was explained really thoroughly, I remember Nanachi saying stuff about the curse field acting like cloth and how you disturb it when you go upwards
but I don't really remember how it works for creatures of the abyss, I mean most of them don't really move far upwards from their habitats but take the flyer beast that Reg defended Riko from at the very start of the manga, didn't it move from like 3rd layer? shouldn't it be bleeding from every orifice?
though most curse effects have something to do with psyche, and more bodily-oriented ones may only work against humans as they are not from Abyss, what I mean is that animals living in the abyss could simply have adapted via evolution
do I have to fucking reread it after month of reading it? inb4
>not having read it 20 times already
>Though he can just switch to another body like in the fight where Reg smashed him after making him take the curse.
there is still some debate over the wording of the zoaholic but one interpretation is that each praying hand is a separate instance of Bondrewd rather than a part of a collective network. If that is the case then each instance of is willing to kill themselves for the benefit of the greater cause. Which also fits with his character since he himself sacrificed his original body and original life to create his own white whistle
>reach bottom of the Abyss
>there's a man-sized '@' symbol waiting at the bottom in a barren, dark room
>it charges straight for Reg, Riko and Nanachi
The curse kicks in at around 10 metres.
Simply jumping normally is harmless.
>They have to love the another target to give them fluffy goodness
And how do they give them fluffy goodness? By taking in all the effects of the curse themselves, for the sake of the other person. They make themselves into a curse sponge. That's why, if the kid absorbing the curses dies, the person left alive gets the rest of the curse.
Nanachi only got blessed because Mitty lived.
The other End Results you see were not sponges, like Mitty. They were failed Blessed Ones. The other sponges all died.
Well that explains the budget.
There is the original one contained in the machine yes. However there are a couple of inconsistencies with the idea that is one Consciousness shared between multiple bodies as opposed to multiple Consciousness made from the copy of the original. Specifically and the one I hinge my theory on is the concept of betrayal that is brought up and Rico is doing her explanation of the machine. Betrayal should never occur if it's one person occupying multiple bodies since in essence it's a single mind with a bunch of Limbs. However if each body is independent from each other then betrayal can occur.
There's also the fact that Bondrewd doesn't need to put a receiver on to any of his praying hands in order to occupy their body. I have been treating this as though he is always present in their minds after possession.
>interesting setting ruined by detail-less moeshit artstyle and bland cookie cutter characters
Yep, that's a drop. Even go full edge won't save this. There's no entertainment value killing a bunch of dull sandbags.
>re-reading the manga now that it's been typeset
>24: liberation of the soul
I think the more likely case that he simply is every single praying hand. He even acknowledges this he's not just two people he's a Collective of people at this point.
I think his condition has gone beyond remote controling a single puppet at a time. And like I already stated. Since he was perfectly willing to kill himself for the sake of his own experiments I firmly believe that each copy of him would also have that same Zeal with the overall goal. So the praying hand who died at the Scorpion pit. And the praying hand that died tackling reg into the six layer. All those were individual copies that understood that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Did they actually destroy Zoaholic?
Nanachi uses future tense here, and it seems like they head straight for the elevator. Riko never mentions destroying it either.
How do I find the willpower to continue watching when I know there is suffering ahead? That first episode was just so much fun and the characters are too cute.
I'm not sure what I want to see more
>still operates [email protected] as normal, complete with loliboxing
>stays at idolfront and continues curating the 5th layer, but doesn't use orphans as lunchables anymore
>goes deeper and runs into Riko and co. later, with canned loli or without
>Towards the end of the manga
>Main crew has accompilshed what the needed to at the bottom of the Abyss
>Bondrewd, meanwhile, has come up with a way to negate the curse without using lolicans
>Helps Riko and co. ascend
I know this will reach the 3rd volume. We will see
I... I don't know if I can handle it anons. Are you all ready? I'm not ready. I can never be ready. And that's why I think I'm prepared.
Actually I'm not prepared. I won't be able to handle Liberation.
>Multiple skeletons are found with praying hands
>Bonedad's group is called the Praying Hands
>Bonedad's whistle depicts praying hands
>The praying skeletons date from 2000 years ago and Bonedad ramble about some grand event from 2000 years ago that is about to start
The fucker knows something.
I'm curious about that. Fluffybun said they were going to do it, then she got emotional over his dying speech, and then we see party departing for the next layer. It looks like she had been planning to do it for a long time and ultimately decided against it.
Soul boss Reg and battlefield abuse had already happened at that point. The only thing that happened between that scene and the departure is Bonelewd's dying speech and the loli juice turning into a whistle.
>only out to volume five
Where do you find it?!
There are things that contradicts with your theory.
First, praying hands refers Bondrewd as lord.
Second, they are all extremely slow both mentally and physically. They talk and walk slow, this wouldn't make any sense if they were all Bondrewd at the same time. I still think Bondrewd is just one entity who can shift between his praying hands, he can left or give orders to them which they'll autonomously proceed to. The only time we see Bondrewd with another praying hand seemingly more alive than others is at Prushka backstory which supports your theory but I think it is possible for Bondrewd to make greater versions of his zombies. Or maybe he was just human and not a zombie? It was back then after all, maybe Bondrewd didn't just zombified all of his praying hands.
Rico to lose an armand then have them attach Reg's lost arm as replacement. I mean he clearly doesn't need it, he'd be much better with a basic prosthetic that holds a big tower shield. His lack of defense against a spiky tackle is the reason Rico nearly died.
What did she mean by this
They barely just met and he already impregnated her, wow.
>doesn't even link the typeset volume
>First, praying hands refers Bondrewd as lord
If you mean Giera from the most recent chapters on potato, that could be explained simply as Bondrewd hadn't yet converted his praying hands with the machine so we can both agree to that idea. He still had his collaborators so there was no need for such extreme measures, but also had access to the Zoaholic because he was a white whistle at that point and would need to occupy a body.
At no point afterwards do I remember any praying hand referring to Bondrewd as lord. Even the page you posted. The only one to say anything that wasn't wearing his iconic mask was the one in the 4th layer and "That person"
>Second, they are all extremely slow both mentally and physically
This is a side effect of the Zoaholic. Post usage, the bodies will become invalids much like we see.
There is also the fact that the praying hand on the 4th layer said that three others had died to the insects. If they were supposed to be working together in tandem with the Moon Whistle that was present, it's unlikely that he was jumping between bodies that rapidly for the job of laying out explosives as time was imperative. But like I said, it's a theory I have. I like the idea of Bondrewd being so die-hard and warped at this point that he's willing to effectively clone himself. And each clone is willing to throw their lives away for the cause of perfecting his research.
I think the big question about Papa Bone's hivemind is whether he shares memories with them. If they are merely clones of his personality, without any psychic links, then each body has to verbally transmit new information. If there is a psychic link, all the information is instantly transmitted over distance. We may be looking at a case of the later. Evidence: the Praying Hand in the flower garden. He was suspiciously aware of all new information. It knew about Reg, Nico, and Nanachi. Most importantly, he wasn't even on a mission to monitor the protagonists, he was busy with another task that required his full attention, and he should have been working there for a while, yet he was immediately up to date with the latest development.
>his entire motivation
Let's not exaggerate here. "Negating the curse" is just one part of the things he did - he was also interested in other shit like investigating Reg, stopping the bugs, etc. - and we don't know what logic even made him want to do that, anyway, whether it was for adventure or progress for their own sake or for utilitarian means or what.
also remember that time dialation is a thing, and so they might be in the abyss for 100 surface years before we know it
>Doesn't realize if an anon is caught up with the chapters mia toc is the way to find new translations first
>If the spoonfed anons are smart they will know how to find the type set chapters with the source provided
Boy I sure am glad her arm wasn't broken, I don't know if I could keep watching if something like that happened.
Oh crap, I almost forgot about that. If the passage of time is different at various depths of the abyss then the concept of an event recurring every 2000 years becomes quite difficult to conceptualize. A phenomena that happens every 2000 years at the top could take place every 20 years at the bottom.
Same. They clearly have no qualms with adding and rearranging certain things to make it flow better in an animated format, so I would actually be delighted if they put some more substance into the first three volumes to make it fit as Akihito was working with the team and he either would've had to write it or nonetheless given it his personal approval.
The last episode ending with Bondrewd's deep, distorted voice and a cut to just the eye splitting open and fading into the darkness would be perfect.