Anno's Top Ten Anime

>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)
Why don't they let him remake it?

>>159430525
That top 3 is great.

>>159430976
ideon's better than the top three.

>>159431054
>watch Ideon anon, it's the basis for Eva and the anime version of 2001!
>actually the driest, most boring turd Tomino ever shat out with a typical boring Buddhist message
I have never felt more cheated

>>159431151
>dry boring with Buddhist message
Sounds like the average Tomino series.

>>159431151
There is an anime version of Space Odyssey?

>>159430525
Is Anno a Tomfag or a Jerryfag?

>>159432803
Every sane person is a Tomfag

>>159432892
So you're saying Anno's a Jerryfag then.

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>>159430525
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)
I take back everything bad I've said about anno

>>159430525
>Ace wo Nerae

I'm not in the least bit surprised at this. Anno started the trend of ripping that show off.

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>>159430525
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)
At least this pretentious jackass has some of taste.

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Never forget

>tom and jerry

absolute patrician taste

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>>159430525
>Tom & Jerry
Now this is real anime

do japanese make the distinction between eastern animation and western like most werterners do?

>>159436894
No

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>>159435177
>what would happen if Tom actually killed Jerry?

>>159436894

They make the distinction between foreign animation and their own, but the word anime itself is a catchall term over there as opposed to its Japanese connotations in the West.

>>159436894
No because THEY'RE NOT FUCKING IDIOTS

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>>159430525
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)
>1944

Best taste, indeed.

>>159435177
>Why did you kill him?
>I HAD TO KILL HIM, HE WAS A MOUSE, HE WANTED THE CHEESE!

>>159432803
I cannot fathom how anyone could ever be a Jerryfag. He practically ruins the show.

>>159438324
Jerry is a little shit but you can't say he ruins the show since he's the reason why Tom is sympathetic to the audience

Has there been a more recent list? Anno was crazy about Madoka, so I'd like to see where that would rank.

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>>159430525
>7. Future Boy Conan (1978, TV)

I loved that show when I was a kid.

>>159438361
I get that but what I meant was that the show favors him and fucks over Tom, sometimes in horrific ways, so much that it can get annoying to watch. Of course, this isn't much of a problem in the early stuck but as the show went along this caused it to become unwatchable.

>>159431522
It was called Ulysses 31.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1aBt-_Zs4

>>159438361
>why Tom is sympathetic to the audience
Was this ever intended or even realized by the writers of that show? They always seemed to want us to believe that Tom is a bully, but all I ever see is a diligent cat doing his best to do his job and rid the house of that disease ridden rodent. I don't think I have ever rooted for Jerry.

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>>159438034
>that 1975 Tom
jesus it's like it's from a seth macfarlane cartoon

>>159438498
wtf I love the odyssey now

>>159432892
>not being a jerryfag

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>>159430525
I can see the pattern here.

>>159439274
Tsun tsun red hair bullying some poor boy?

>>159438528
The size difference and chase dynamic immediately inform Tom as the antagonist, only occasionally will a cartoon include that this is Tom's job and he'll be kicked out of his home if he doesn't remove mice, and it's only in hindsight that Jerry was the invader with all the freedom to target elsewhere and avoid this conflict.

>>159439567
>>159438528
They should both ally and apply Jim Crow laws on the faceless niggresse.

>>159439477
Anne isn't really tsun at all in the anime sense just has a temper, although she does end up marrying the boy she is hitting over the head later in life.

>>159430710
I don't want this retard anywhere near it
The fact that he's got 8 shitty anime ahead of it is a disgrace enough in itself

>>159438467
Tom & Jerry was never a "show". It was a short film series.
Unless you mean the shitty spinoffs on TV

>>159430525
Damn, I'm glad we agree that Yamato is the greatest thing ever.

>>159438034
l still remember the 1961-1962 and the 1980-1982 editions were full QUALITY back in the days

>>159430525
>CCA third
Great fucking taste faggot.

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>>159438598
>in a few minutes it'll all be over, and for the first time since he met her, he'll be happy.
It's fucked up because this sounds exactly like it could be a line from Eva.

>>159436894
No to them anime literally just means animation

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>>159430525
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)

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It's funny how most of /a/ can't even criticize his top 10 because they literally have not even watched any of the things he's listed, besides Tom & Jerry.

>>159443334
>implying there aren't a bunch of /m/en in this thread right now.

>>159443334
I for one am enjoying the stealth T&J thread. Remember the one where Spike's pup had the hiccups and Tom had to try not to wake him up? That was a good one.

>>159443334
I just watched some of those series and they're ok, it's not like all /a/ watch classic anime.

>>159443334
Seen the entire list besides Fight! Pyuta! It's a respectable list but mine would probably be quite different and I think Anno's would too had he grown up in any other era. Not trying to say that the list isn't full of bonafide classics that are still great today but given the way almost everything is from the 70s or early 80s I would have to say that the choices are highly influenced by the time period in which he was getting into anime.

>>159430525
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)
I guess

>>159438034
80s Tom was a mistake

>>159430525
He doesn't like his own works?

>>159443791
Congrats, you're a furry.

>>159430525
>tom & jerry

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>>159438598
This is still fucked up

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>>159438467
On the bright side. The best episodes was when the rodent got fucked in the end and tom got his victory.

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;_;

>>159444029
The real problem is that I can't remember a single episode where /ourcat/ won, at best things went back to status quo like in the episode where him, Spike and Jerry called a truce

>>159430525
Most boring top 10 I've ever seen.
He could have at least thrown Strike Witches there to spice things up since he's a fan.

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>>159444132
>Strike Witches
>1991

>>159444132
Yes he should have peered into the future.

>>159444152
WW2 had happened 46 years ago by then

>>159443334
>watching anime
>likeing anno shit
>never watching gundam 0079 or char's counter attack

it like you cannot into Japanese culture

>>159444152
>>159444189
Okay I didn't see the date.
Then make it Cutie Honey or something, the list is still too safe and boring.

>>159444339
Are you implying Go Nagaishit is not safe and/or boring? Really anon?

>>159444313
What in the fuck are you trying to say?

>>159438324
>That episode where jerry refuses to forgive tom and send him to hell.
Little prick deserve to become lunch. I know it was a dream episode

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>>159439654
She is actually shown.
Her name is Mammy Two-shoes.
I shit you not.

>>159444398
you are an uncultured faggot

>>159443334
This is just an /m/ thread now. We've all seen this list because Anno's taste basically formed what we think of as canon for sci-fi anime.

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>>159438598
>That fucking episode
I have no doubts in my mind that when anno was talking about liking the series, he was talking about that episode.

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>>159430525
>Choking on Miyazaki and Tomino's cocks
>Dat Tom and Jerry
Sounds like The Master allright.

>>159444391
Not his most low brow trashy works.
Nobody sane would seriously argue about Kekko Kamen being even decent.

>>159444506
thanks for the touga reaction image

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>>159430525
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)
For once he has good taste

>>159430525
I want to know his top 10 manga list.

>>159444480
So /m/ is all the Tom & Jerry posters in this thread right now?

make a 3x3 of the top 9 and post it in those threads

>3. Gundam–Char’s Counterattack (1988, movie)
>4. Legendary Giant IDEON (1980, TV & movie)

What a faggot.

>>159430525
>Yamato
>Gundam
>Ideon
>Tom & Jerry
Not surprising but still good taste (except for CCA).

>>159444521
Just because you have shit taste, doesn't mean everyone has to.

>>159444611
Watch them newfag.

>>159444709
I have, that's why I can safely say he has shit taste.

Top-tier taste with CCA. It's a pleb filter

>>159430525
>Animal Treasure Island
I've always wanted to watch this one

>>159431151

Ideon was great even if not as imaginative as Mobile Suit Gundam

You're probably some SRW fag who went in thinking it was Gurren Lagann based on the Ideon Gun's unbalanced gameplay

>>159430525
I appreciate he had nothing better to watch back then, but why would someone in their right mind waste their time on such dated shit today?

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>>159444828
Go back to your normalfag website now.

>>159444828
Nice bait.

>>159444864
>muh sekrit club
This is his normalfag site, don't be delusional

>>159444719
Yup, you clearly have better taste in mecha anime than Hideaki Anno and Yoshiyuki Tomino. You must be some sort of critical theory savant.
Or, perhaps, you're a complete fucking philistine and have no idea what you're talking about.

>>159438034
why did he become the Nichijou ED

>>159444901
>implying
/a/ is not for normalfags.

>>159444736
CCA is the opposite of a pleb filter. It has great animation and lots of action which any pleb would latch on to and immediately call great as though those are the only important aspects for anime. The story and characterization is garbage and it's poorly set up even with 0079 and Zeta preceding it.

>>159444910
Modern cartoons are trash.

>>159444828
(You)

>>159444924
You're basically atop mount stupid. You haven't even surpassed the true pleb filter, after which one realizes that it's the perfect conclusion to U.C.

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>>159430525
>Aim for the Ace
BD rip when? I want to see those watercolor backgrounds in all their glory.

>>159444905
Tomino struck gold with Gundam but if you are honestly pretending that retard has any sense for his genre, you are dumber than he is. Look at any of his works outside of Gundam and try to claim they aren't utter trash.

>>159430525
>Tom and Jerry

Not anime

>>159444905
Of course I have better taste. I'm a connoisseur who spends his time consuming art instead of creating it. They probably don't have 1/10th my breadth because their work keeps them too busy to put in the time.

>>159445025
This could be good pasta.

>>159445025
>their work keeps them too busy

What work? Surely you don't mean to say they put work into that garbage they've shat out.

>>159444979
Not that guy, but CCA had good ideas but terrible execution. Making it a movie was a mistake.

>>159445009
L-Gaim and Xabungle are pretty good

>>159445025
I have no response to this level of delusion. You clearly have some issues you need to deal with besides your shit taste, like narcissistic personality disorder for instance.

>>159445014
For japanese people, anime is just a short for animation, they dont give a shit about anything else.

>>159444579
I think Nausicaa would definitely make that list.

>>159445158
L-Gaim is mediocre, Xabungle is fucking terrible.

>>159445161
>I have no argument so I'll attack his personality instead of his argument.

Great job.

>>159445059
>>159445209
Stop this reddit spacing shit already.

>>159445025
Creating something requires a much deeper understanding of it than just consuming it.

>>159445009
Ideon
Daitarn 3
Zambot 3
Xabungle
L-gaim

All fucking masterpieces.
Not to mention his work on Voltes and Combattler which are also excellent shows.

>>159445216

No.

>>159445229
Thanks for the recommendations.

>>159445209
Your argument that watching a bunch of anime makes you a more qualified judge of art than two of the mediums greatest contributors?
Yeah, you're right. I didn't bother to come up with a response because it's such a ludicrous statement.
Go watch Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut or Iron Blooded Orphans. I bet those are more your type of mecha show.

>>159430525
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)

Should be higher, but good taste regardless.

>>159445321
Back in my day we said "stick to A/Z"

>>159438034
1950 > 1955 > 2014 > 1958 > 2006 > 1963 > 1945 > 1958 > 1942 > 1940 > 1961 >1992 > 1980 > 1990

This is the list.

>>159444924
Tominofags do this thing where they pretend Anno's fanfiction version of CCA is the real movie while shitting on Anno at the same time

>>159430525
>3. Char's Counterattack

Welp, if ever there was any doubt that Anno doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

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CCA is masterpiece

>>159444924
Fucking this, CCA is the thrilling final conclusion to Char and Amuro's duel. In other words, only plebs would think it even needed to be made.

CCA is a bit messy and could have used more room to stretch, but it's a solid capstone to the ongoing story.

I watched some of that stuff on his list, but I barely remember it. It's all boring, but sounds about right for a mechafag living in the past. Meh.

>>159446139
>ongoing

Nigga that's it. Unless you mean Full Frontal in Unicorn in which case kill yourself.

>>159446151
I somehow doubt you've watched anything there. There are only 3 mecha shows on the entire list.

>thread about Anno bouncing around /a/
>full of people shitting on Tomino and Anno
If you dislike anything on that list, you are either a contrarian hipster faggot or an ignorant shit-munching normalfag.
Either way, go back to plebbit, your opinions are unwanted and unwelcome here.

>>159446232
Yes, and they're #2, #3 & #4
And don't try to pretend Yamato isn't closely related to mecha, demographic wise.

>>159446324
Not a mecha show. Just sci-fi.

>>159446139
>Char and Amuro settle their feud in the original series when Char realizes that he's being a fool and can't see that their enemy is one and the same
>Becomes a hero in Zeta, while he's running away from his responsibility in the end he declares he's endorsing faith in humanity
>"Oh the Feddie high brass gave up the Earth to Haman? Guess humans weren't saving afterall, time to destroy fucking Earth. Amuro you piece of shit don't think I forgot you killed my girlfriend mom, I'm really destroying the Earth so we can finally settle the score we settled and I can prove that all the times you kicked my ass were a fluke!"

t.Tomino

>>159446305
CCA is trash, you're welcome to fuck off since neither /a/ or /m/ would want someone as retarded as you.

>>159446324
Shut up. sorry that his list wasn't just a bunch of battle shounen and harem shows. Would that have been less boring for you?

>>159446386
>summer

>>159446371
>Becomes a hero in Zeta
t. imperceptive

>>159446488
>greentext reply

The movie version of Yamato is better than the TV version

fite me nerds

>>159446529
They're two sides of the same coin to me, like SDFMacross and DYRL.

>>159445483
This stupid bait image will never not make me angry.

>>159446305
To be fair the reason you get so many people shitting on them isn't because they are hipster or contrarian its because they are trying to fit in and parroting what the memesters on /a/ tell them to believe. If you repeat something about someone/something specific on /a/ enough times other people will start repeating it eventually and it will become prevailing opinion. Works especially well if you base it on poorly translated/entirely incorrectly translated interviews or statements. Just look at what happened to opinion regarding Miyazaki since that "anime is trash" meme started and people bought it on /a/ despite being trollsubs.

It is just mindless idiots who have probably never so much as seen a single one of those shows on the list shitting on them because they are told to on /a/ essentially. Anyone using /a/ as a primary source of information and news on anime would end up with a hugely skewed understanding of the industry and many people seem to claim to do it with pride.

The fact that they are well respected classics on that list is kind of entirely irrelevant and so is the fact that people like Anno and Tomino are two of the greatest contributors to the medium in its history. Just got to repeat the meme opinion to fit in man and look like you have a clue what you are talking about to everyone else who wants to fit in too.

>>159446684
Or maybe they genuinely dislike those series.

>no K-On!
shit list

>>159446797
>1991

>>159446731
I never said people couldn't genuinely dislike those series. The "shitting on them" part is specifically addressing the corresponding point in the post I have responded to.

>>159446438
No, that'd be stupid.

>anyone shitting on this list

Make your top 10 list right now.
Not just of anime but of any animated series ever.

I'll wait

>>159446731
No one cares what you like.

>>159446853
He didn't mention anything he liked. Are you stupid?

>>159446853
It's a good thing I didn't say anything related to that then.

>>159446851
>Implying I have a top list

>>159446851
Adventure Time
Toy Story
Dragon Ball
Spirited Away
Clannad
Steins;Gate
Kimi no Na wa
Spongebob
Wolf Children
Ponyo

>>159447001
This is a joke right?

>>159446851
>any animated series
How am I supposed to find time to watch world animation on top of watching nip stuff?

>>159447001
good bait

>>159446797
kill yourself, fucking retard

>>159446919
Good thing I meant in general.
>>159446894
Are you stupid?

>>159446438
>he doesn't like my poorly made toy commercials so he must only like stereotypical garbage!
Nice projecting.

>>159447073
>backpedaling

>>159446851
K-On!!
Hunter x Hunter (2011)
Ponyo
Shirobako
Ghost in the Shell SAC
Psycho-Pass
Gurren Lagann
Kill la Kill
Log Horizon
Kare Kano

>>159447087
95% of anime is a commercial for a product. That isn't something unique to mecha anime.

>>159447047
Why would that be a joke?
>>159447059
Fuck you.

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>>159446851
I can't count all the way to ten, but I can do nine.

>>159447102
Absolute garbage taste. Is this supposed to be copying that youtube faggot?

>>159447127
Because it is laughably bad.

>>159447102
You've either seen very little anime, or you have some terminally shit taste.

>>159447135
3x3s are the clear sign that you're a pretentious retard that only watches series for visual merit rather than as artistic pieces.

>>159447121
True, but most of the time, especially post-1995, those products are other stories or pieces of art. Specifically being made to sell toys is a speciality of mecha.

>>159447135
>Kumo to Tulip
Top-tier taste 10/10

>>159447178
What? Given the garbage you see on most of them that is way off the mark. I am honestly supposing the reason that guy is posting the 3x3 and not a list is because he doesn't actually know which shorts are on the 3x3 and he has just saved it from a previous time though.

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>>159447102
Dammit, this guy really loves shit.

>>159447204
>especially post-1995
That was literally around the time anime stopped being interesting you fucking retard. The 80's is easily the greatest era of anime. If you weren't a teenage idiot you would know that.

>>159447254
It's good but nowhere near the top 10 for all of world animation, even just black and white stuff

>>159434645
Aim wo Nerae is pure garbage. Dezaki is only remembered because he worked on a budget at a time where that sort of thing was impressive. How are any of Ace wo Nerae and Gainax's shots even remotely similar?

>>159447102
>t. digibro

>>159447258
>all the important Ghibli films
>Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
>Angel's Egg
>Urusei Yatsura
>Classic Toei fantasy epics
Please tell me about all the amazing post-1995 anime that are so much more artistic and creative than these you fucking moron.

>>159447370
K-ON you shiteater.

>>159447370
Think you meant to reply to >>159447204.

>>159447311
It's only really noted as special in the history of Japanese animation because of the sophistication of the animation for the country at the time. If you look at it in a worldwide context it really isn't all that notable at all. It has a certain poetic, natural and japanese feeling charm to it that is pleasant enough and is rather artful in places but worldwide great, probably not, especially in the context of all time.

>>159447319
Are you trying to look stupid? Gunbuster.

>>159447370
Wrong person? I mean I can think of some if you like? Yuasa? Kon?

ITT: armchair animators talking out of their asses

>>159447102
I wish you had gotten trampled at AX

>>159447307
>if you weren't blinded by nostalgia like me you would know that!
Lol great argument. Also, I never said anime became more interesting after 1995, just that the focus on using it to sell toys greatly died down around that era. My favourite anime film, Nausicaa is from 1984. Nice projecting, again.

>>159444864
>acting like chibi maruko-chan is high art just because only you and japanese people have seen it

>>159447135
>tfw you can't identify even one of these
I'll never be as good or cool as this guy

>>159447409
Why don't you form an opinion that isn't based on memes you piece of shit?
There isn't a single original thing about K-on. Every joke, character, and setting is borrowed from some other high school/moe show that had aired since Azumanga Daioh started the trend.
Mix some overproduced lighting and throw in a bunch of rainbows, and wham, KyoAni classic.

>>159447567
I don't think the focus on using it to sell toys died down. I think the number of TV anime that used alternative revenue sources just went up hugely. So proportionally shows focusing on selling a "toy" to a child are less nowadays but I don't think they have gone anywhere.

>>159447621
You can literally watch the first 20 episodes subtitled right now. It is quite nice actually. Amusing enough,likeable characters, gives nice insight into Japanese culture around the time.

>>159447467
The song is nice too

>>159447467
>Wrong person?
Yes, sorry.

>>159447661
>a work has to be original to be good

Fuck off, retard. Almost nothing is original, even in older series.

>>159447664
Okay, then let me revise:
"Post-1995 is when the proportion of anime focused on selling toys became a much smaller minority."

>>159447370
It doesn't take much to be more artistic than the LOGH anime. That's just neckbeardshit, no aesthetic merit at all

>>159447204
Specifically catering to different Bluray-buying markets is a specialty of all most modern anime. Moe-obsessed otaku, fujos, isekai shit-eaters, etc. As long as the toy commercial is worth watching, it's fine.

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>>159447659
Here

>>159447567
There is more anime merchandise being produced now than ever. Try not talking out your ass so much. Every single random harem show gets some $300 plastic waifu made.

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>>159447659
It is probably on one of these two.

>>159447803
>>159447839
>a bunch of shit I'll never see because bakabt went private
neat

>>159447751
(You)

>>159447803
Correct.

>>159447881
A lot of that kind of art shorts shit is on nyaa if you search for Anonymoose although not sure if it is well seeded now.

>>159447881
Google anonymemoose

CCA is a movie that people shit on to feel like they know what they're talking about. It's hopelessly beyond their reach.

>>159447978
Or it's actual shit.

>>159447881
YouTube or Vimeo

>>159447409
Eat shit, fucking imbecile.

>>159447803
Tezuka's experimental shorts are all really accessible and impressive. I really love Jumping in particular.
Is there some Bunraku on there?

>>159447319
>Aim wo Nerae is pure garbage
Wrong. It's literally one of the greatest sports series of all time.

>>159447723
Calling it a small minority isn't really the truth either though. They are often the highest grossing franchises in the industry still today and a big part of it.

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>>159447803
>Gauche the Cellist
God this film is pure kino. I feel bad for those who haven't seen it.

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>>159430525
I just finished Yamato. It gets pretty retarded at the end but it has a strong start and overall feels pretty cool all the way through, I imagine it must've been the most awesome shit ever to people that saw it in the 70s.

>>159447950
>>159447951
All the links are to old nyaa, but still a great resource. Thanks.

>>159448024
Will probably have to go this route. Still a lot of pre-2000s stuff I need to see before I go this deep down the rabbit hole, but I'll get there some day.

>>159448152
just go to the new nyaa and then search Anonymoose like I said you will find the torrents all the same.

>>159448152
>All the links are to old nyaa
How one person be this incompetent?

>>159447001
>putting Kinobob on this shitlist
angry

>>159447803
Needs Rakugo, Gunbuster, LotGH, Bebop, Animerama Trilogy
But other than that, I could agree with this.
Also, if you're including Astro Boy and 8 Man, I'd throw in Mazinger Z.

>>159448152
fucking magnets how do they work?

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>>159448229
>Gunbuster
Fuck off already,

>>159448214
I know they'll be on new nyaa as well, but I'm just guessing they're unseeded.

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>>159448279
>I'm just guessing they're unseeded.
That's not how seeding works, anon.

>>159448279
Please stop being retarded.

>>159448229
Rakugo and LoGH are nowhere near the level of accomplishment of anything else on there Bebop borderline maybe. As for Animerama 1001 Nights is on there.

>>159447760
It's nowhere near as prominent as old mecha shows attempting to sell toys tho. Most modern anime are adaptations and their main financial purpose is to advertise the source material they're adapted from. Which means far more focus is placed on making stories that people can get invested in, and not on making blocky robots that kids want their parents to buy figures of.
>As long as the toy commercial is worth watching, it's fine.
I agree, and I do like plenty of them, I just hate it when pretentious mechafags claim that they're high art which is so much more refined than all modern anime, while completely ignoring the fact that they were only created to sell toys to drooling children.

>>159447815
But that merchandise isn't the main reason to create the shows, as it isn't mass produced and put on the shelves of toy stores. It's specialty stuff that is made in low amounts and expected to be bought by a small niche of people. The purpose of creating the shows is to move copies of BDs and the source material the show is based on.

>>159448075
Highest grossing maybe, but they don't make up the majority of shows made.

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-30/chibi-maruko-chan-sazae-san-dr-slump-top-list-of-most-viewed-anime-episodes/.97077

These are the only anime shows that matter.

>>159444592
Yes

>>159448381
Didn't see that 1001 nights was on there. I'm satisfied with that since it's the best of the trilogy. I would definitely say that Rakugo and LotGH accomplished as much if not more tahn a lot of the anime on that list, especially in storytelling. I would say they easily stand alone at the top in narrative, dialogue, and character development. If it's just visuals, then Rakugo had some of the most unique and inventive cuts and tracking shots of any show that's ever been created.

>>159448229
Joke post?

>>159448509
That's actually a list of pretty good shows. Based nips.

>>159448381
Please tell me about how Mahoutskai Sally and Panda, Go Panda are bigger accomplishments than Rakugo. Just being old doesn't make it better.

>>159448618
Are we talking about the recent anime Rakugo? If so then I don't think its anything special at all and think you vastly overrate it. LoGH is relatively unique in terms of the scope of the story it tells I will admit that certainly but it doesn't really measure up in my opinion by quite a bit due to its failings in other areas.

The majority of the list is a rework of this anyway:

http://nishikataeiga.blogspot.[dot.com]/2010/10/laputas-top-150-japanese-and-world.html

>>159449051
Please tell me that you're merely pretending.

>>159449051
Sally invented the magical girl genre. Panda was an important step in the artistic formation of two of the industries most important figures in history.

>>159449123
Sally was low-hanging fruit. It's literally just an anime version of Bewitched targeted at a younger audience.
Panda, Go Panda has gorgeous animation, but is incredibly thin in every other aspect.

>>159448065
To who? That's like Saying Tiger Maks is on the same level as Ashita no Joe. The Aim wo Nerae adaptation is a mess. No movie or 80s revival is going to change that. Quit trying to act like your poorly animated coach cancer is anything more than a funny specticle. I only reason I madr it through that trash was by MST3King it with friends. No shoes, two left arms, intermittently disappearing pupils... its like QUALITY the anime. The only reason you're praising it is out of some weird Showa nostalgia.

>>159449310
And Rakugo is a forgettable seasonal anime that nobody will care about or remember in 10 years time.

>>159449320
>with Friends
Opinion discarded.

>>159449370
The manga is already considered a modern classic. The anime series has received nothing but accolades from any critical source that matters. Not that you would know that.

>>159449320
>The Aim wo Nerae adaptation is a mess.
It's not though? It's a thrilling character study on Hiromi and her challenges/perseverance with tennis and her teammates/rivals.
I love Aim for the Ace, it's truly a classic with some of my favorite characters that exist in all of anime/manga.

>>159449320
Seriously? You're saying you spent the whole time you were watching a show taking the piss out of it with your friends rather than actually paying attention. Maybe that has more to do with your impression of it than anything else.

>>159449656
>received nothing but accolades from any critical source that matters
Such as?

>>159449656
And yet Kemono Friends will be far more remembered historically and have a far greater influence on the industry. You're nothing less than deluded if you think in the greater context of things it's anything more than a run of the mill above average anime.

>>159430525
>Tom and Jerry
T&J isn't an anime.

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>>159449878
>Kemono Friends
>MFW I realize who I've been wasting my time with.

>>159449760
Some blogs and ANN.

>>159449968
You're wasting your time with someone realistically assessing the industry. My assertion has nothing to do with my opinion of the show.

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>>159443334

>Implying any anime fan worth his salt HASN'T watched Yamato, Gundam, or Ideon

>>159449999
Actually though, I want him to admit he was lying.

>>159450206
Sorry to disappoint but that would be the majority of /a/.

>>159450206
We're talking about nu-/a/ here.

>>159430525

>No Evangelion

terrible list

>>159451288
This

>>159449674
My only problems with Aim for The Ace were the animation and the slow pacing. It takes at least 20 episodes (3/4ths of the series) for Hiromi to stop crying and become a hot blooded tennis player. Ashita no Joe 1 suffered from the exact same problems.

IMO, RoV was the first Dezaki work that can genuinely be called a masterpiece, since it fixed these animation and pacing problems.

>>159451451
Aim for the Ace movie though

>>159451451
That's Gamba

>>159451536
Too condensed. Visually amazing, but that shit was too fast.

>>159451451
RoV didn't fix the pacing problems at all, all that Rosalie shit along with that early Antoinette drama is garbage and unnecessary.
It would have been more interesting if they had expanded on Saint Juste's character.
But oh well.

>>159451451
>>159451696
Also I didn't even mention Oscar's love for Fersen that came literally out of nowhere with little build up.
Although this is kind of similar to Hiromi and Todou's relationship in Ace S1 as there's barely any build up until the end.
It's really about her relationship with Munakata though, at least that's what S2 seems to indicate.

>>159451696
>unnecessary
It's set up and it doesn't last any longer than it absolutely needs to.

Taking 6 episodes for the DuBarry conflict, and 10 for everything Rosalie in a 40 episode anime isn't the same as it taking the majority of the series for a tennis player to actually become good at the sport.

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>>159430525
Why is mecha always so superior to everything else?

>>159430525
>IDEON in his top ten and not NGE

Shit taste desu

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>>159447001
Adventure Time ruined Western animation. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

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>>159453728
>1991

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>>159430525
>Gundam–Char’s Counterattack (1988, movie)
It really is true that all nips have shit taste.

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>>159430710
He did

>>159430525
>literally fucking nothing from modern age

just let him go

>>159455091
Are you being silly?

>>159455122
Are you? How fucking jaded can you be that you think NOTHING from the last 30 years was decent enough?

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>>159431522
Yeah it's eoe, retard

>>159455663
Even if this list weren't made in 1991 it wouldn't imply that

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>>159445007
Couple months.

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>>159456466
Oh fuck what? is this for real?
I don't believe it!

>>159456506
The BD has been out for quite a few months. I'm copying the hardsubs to the french softsubs to get the timing done easily. Friend is doing the encode work. Keep it on the down low, I wanna keep it more of a surprise.

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>>159456587
Bless you anon. I can't wait to rewatch it.

>>159456587
Aww shit nigga, better post here when you're done.

>>159430710
all of my yes

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>yfw Anno is a Jerryfag

>>159440236
She's pretty tsun for Gilbert, or at least doesn't want to admit that she respects him.

>>159444099
This scene fucked me up as a kid.

I also thought "PUSSY!" was pretty funny

>>159430525

Charlie Sheen looks weird these days.

>>159444924
Pleb. You have CCA to thank that Eva could exist in the form you know today.

You now realize Tom and Jerry's fur share the same colour hair as Rei and Asuka

>>159458360
pussycat

>>159456587
You're a hero.

>>159444132

Who is Anno's favourite witch? I see him being a Trude fan.

>>159430525
>1. Yamato (1974, TV)
Opinion discarded.

>>159438034
1945, 1950, and 1955 are the best ones I'm pretty sure.

>>159438034
50s > 40s > 10s > 00s > 90s > 60s > 80s > 70s

>>159456587
You are a god amongst men

>>159449961
it is in japan

>>159430525
>1. Yamato (1974, TV)
This series is absolutely full of bonafide plot-holes, details that differ between episodes which contradict each other. Also a highly inconsistent production in general (the colour of the aliens changes mid series for no reason). It's simply bad. 3/10
>2. Mobile Suit Gundam (1979, TV)
Highly uneven in quality. A good third of the episodes are absolutely irrelevant to the story. It is also too episodic and too TV-like in its development. Plot points are mostly opened and closed in the same episodes, and there is very little foreshadowing for certain major narrative shifts. The quality of the animation is pretty poor (for its time). 6.5/10
>3. Gundam–Char’s Counterattack (1988, movie)
The film has too many characters and plot points for its duration. It also exists in a kind of weird limbo, story-wise, despite being the finale for the Amuro arc. Gundam in general has this problem though, coming from its extremely by the numbers TV series story progression. Still, it has great animation, and very nice set-pieces. 7/10
>4. Legendary Giant IDEON (1980, TV & movie)
Everything I said about Gundam is true of IDEON, except 5 times worse. 3/10
>5. Animal Treasure Island (1971, movie)
This is actually a solid animated film. In tone and development, it is surprisingly similar to a Pixar film. Very different from contemporary Japanese animated films. 7/10
>6. Fight! Pyuta! (1968, TV)
I have not seen this one.
>7. Future Boy Conan (1978, TV)
Typical Miyazaki story, except dragged out over 26 episodes. Production-wise, it's very well done, but the story is too set on rails and the main characters are too flat. 5/10
>8. Aim at Ace (1973, first TV series)
Haven't seen it.
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)
8/10 great visual comedy. episodic, but at the perfect size.
>10. Ann the Red Hair [Anne of Green Gables] (1979, TV)
The only genuinely great series on this list other than T&J. Very good production values and a good story adapted well. 8/10

>>159459736
what's a 10/10 for you

>>159459792
Naruto

>>159444905
>muh appeal to authority
You're such a retarded pleb.

>>159459792
Ghost in the Shell, Millennium Actress, Tatami Galaxy, Texhnolyze. Basically titles that are great in very aspect (both well written and well made), with only minor flaws.

>>159430525
>3. Gundam–Char’s Counterattack (1988, movie)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH ANNO CONFIRMED FOR SHIT TASTE

>>159438598
What happens at the end?

>>159460050
All of those titles are dog shit. Especially Tatami Galaxy.

>>159456587
Did you buy the BD's yourself or are there any rips?

>>159444339
Cutie Honey fucking sucks

>>159443334
I refuse to believe /a/ hasn't seen entry level anime.

>>159460050
There's nothing great about the animation in texchnolyze.

>>159460050
Hipster list. Intentionally avoids listing better anime that are more popular.

>>159463082
such as

>>159463165
Naruto

>>159463166
i wonder if you think i haven't already forgotten about double the total anime you'll ever watch in your life or something

>>159439654
Epic and hilarious.

>>159460503
Bought them and ripped.

the last tom and jerry I saw was tom and jerry committing suicide by train

that really fucked me up

>>159445483
>Giant Gorg
>6
Every time I look at this bait image, I find something new to focus on and get pissed about.

>>159446851
K-ON!
Aria
Batman: the Animated Series/Batman Beyond
Hunter x Hunter (2011)
Lupin III
Shoujo Kakumei Utena
Spongebob Squarepants
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
Kaiji
Shiki
Fight me.

>>159447204
>anything before my arbitrary cut-off date isn't a story
>I can dictate what is and isn't art
>there is no such thing as bad art

>>159447661
Nothing is original, you faggot. Moe is also not a genre.

>>159448270
Gunbuster's literally only similar to it in surface-level ways. This is like when everyone was saying Star Wars episode 7 was just like A New Hope because it had a sand planet and the Death Star. Disregarding how retarded that is for a moment, it's more similar to Return of the Jedi, but that doesn't really matter either. It just goes to show how poorly thought-out said complaints are.

>>159454419
>Not Steven Universe

>>159449968
>I haven't seen the show so you're not worth my time

>>159463954
>literally named after it
>it's completely not an intentional homage

You're retarded.

>>159464064
The first episode was a parody of it and that's it, you ape. I assumed people would get that I knew that given how obvious it was but I guess I should've explained it. My point was that it's not just Ace wo Nerae because it has similarities to it.

>>159464133
The guy was clearly joking and not stating they were the exact same show. The influence of Aim for the Ace pervades the entire show start to end actually.

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>>159455065
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>159463697
>Batman: the Animated Series/Batman Beyond
You can't put two series in one slot you little shit.

>>159463697
Terminally shit taste.

>>159464233
Batman Beyond is its sequel so I count them as the same show. I know that there are other shows in the same universe but they're more part of its universe, outside of some crossover. It's a bit like Gunbuster and Diebuster.

>>159464316
I just realized how shittily I phrased that middle sentence. You get what I meant, though.

>>159464315
I'm not offended but I'm curious about why you feel this way.

>>159438034
1955 best iteration

>>159464357
First off, it's a very poor selection. Everything is post 1990, which tells me you've seen very little anime or cartoons in general.
Secondly, you placed Beyond on the same level as Animated series which is heresy.
K-on!, HunterxHunter, and Shiki are unique in absolutely 0 ways.
Suzumiha Haruhi no Yuutsu is the quintessential shit muncher anime. Empty style, no substance, overproduced and pretentiously long.

Utena and Lupin are both top-tier. Aria and Kaiji are great, but nowhere near the best anime ever made.

>>159464479
>shiki isnt unique in its execution
get out of here senpai

>>159464586
It's edge-shit for Fate/fags. Daume is a terrible studio.

>>159464479
K-on is better than aria and kaiji by far. Failure to appreciate K-On is the sure fire sign of the real pleb.

>>159464479
Lupin III isn't post-1990 for me since I've mostly just seen the first three shows and some movies from the 70s. I've also seen a few shows before 1990 like Giant Gorg and Rose of Versailles, which I loved, but they aren't in my top ten. I do admit that I haven't seen as many as I should've, though. Also, a show's uniqueness doesn't matter to me because nothing is really unique. Claiming something is is like announcing that you think you know everything that came before and after it from every single medium and that you honestly believe that said thing isn't like any of that. In regard to your stance of Haruhi, it's just a bunch of meaningless buzzwords. To me, Haruhi has substance on several levels and I'm basing that on what I see as substance. Just talking about substance as if everyone is on the same page as you is disregarding that what counts as substance to the individual is different. This is also not a list of what is the "best anime" because such a list can't exist.
>>159464665
I can't really see how someone who just throws Aria and Kaiji under the bus like that can call others plebs. K-ON! is my favorite anime but Aria and Kaiji are fairly close.

>>159464705
I didn't say either was bad.

>>159464642
>protaganists who are hypocritical and despicable in their actions
>villians whos motivation is completely justified and relatable
>a burn so slow its like stewing some fine curry that explodes with a depth of flavor and spice in the last couple episodes
yea nah

>>159464738
I know but the "by far" was pushing it.

>>159430525
Anno has good taste in anime. This cannot be denied. So how come all his works are so shit? Even when he rips off good anime they come out bad.

>>159464783
Kare Kano was pretty great.

>>159464783
You're uncultured.

>>159464824
I'm uncultured because I don't like cool concepts from older anime with haremshit and tits added to it?

>>159464766
I don't think so.

>>159464865
The only way K-on is better than Aria is cel animation. Aria is superior n every other aspect.

>>159464857
Not that I think that's valid for any of his works, but how does that apply to Karen Kano or Nadia exactly? Not that you've seen them, and aren't just spouting shit you read on /a/.

>>159447001
kek

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>>159464924
What the fuck are you on about?

>>159465054
>Dialogue
The dialogue in Aria is both commonplace and esoteric, very suggestive.
The dialogue in K-on is variations of the 200 most said phrases in high school/moe shows.
>Setting
Neo-Venezia
Another fucking high school
>Character design
The designs in Aria are incredibly unique and striking. The elegant and slender figures and subtle yet visually imposing hairstyles are perfect for the show's atmosphere.
K-on girls are all blando gue-gue moe blobs.
>Writing
Aria is multifaceted, ranging from serene beauty to unsettling melancholy. Simple life moments are highlighted along unique supernatural experiences almost seamlessly.
I hesitate to even call K-on's script writing. It's literally just a collection of low-tier jokes borrowed from other 4-komas.
>Background Art
Aria has beautiful and suggestive architecture, effortless juxtaposition of sci-fi elements with the historic buildings, and the constant symbolic presence of water running throughout the shots.
K-on is full of CGI classrooms with over saturated lighting.

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>>159447102
I wonder who could be behind this post?

>>159465054
Even the music in Aria is better and that's what K-on was about.

anime rakugo kan isnt subbed >:[

>>159465365
>K-on was about music
I fucking wish

>>159464924
Wrong. K-on is superior in every aspect.

>>159465303
>he actually believes this
The direction, writing and characters in K-on! Have far more depth and subtlety than Aria could ever dream of. SatoJun is only any good at little girls shows.

>>159460152
Tom and Jerry both kill themselves. Really.

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>>159465700
Not this shit again

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>>159448381

Neither of these responses have to do with K-ON! having cel animation, which is why I replied.
>>159465303
>your first three
Basically, because they weren't obviously new, these elements were just dismissed by you.
>Dialogue/writing
K-ON! has decently natural dialogue with a much better flow from how the dialogue is in other cute girl shows, such as Non Non Biyori, another show by the same writer. In the first season, the dialogue tended to only be a little above-average while still resorting to plenty of scenes just building up to a punch-line and then ending but in season two and onward leaned more towards having conversations with small but more character-specific jokes in-between. In several aspects, the dialogue grounded the characters more than a lot of other shows like when they tried to go to sleep during their trip to Kyoto and instead said stupid shit that sounded funny to them because they were tired and with friends. These little phrases becoming in-jokes to them solidified this. I've done this very thing with friends in the past. I love the writing in Aria but it could just as easily be over-generalized as K-ON!'s.
>Hahi
>No ___ allowed!
>___ is wonderful!
Said things are certainly prevalent but they don't define the writing and neither do said phrases you vaguely alluded to.
>Setting/background art
So what if it's a high school? Would you prefer if it were an office, apartment, or hospital like in plenty of Western media, just because they're uncommon in anime? What tends to make a setting special isn't necessarily it itself but rather all of the details that make it special to the characters in it and K-ON! has that in it. Every room that belongs to a specific character, such as Yui's room, or several, such as the main clubroom, tends to be packed with personal belongings or a history to them, allowing them to further enrich the characterization and backstory of its characters.