Which one is the better sequel /a/? Dragon Ball Super or Boruto?

Burrito is better
We know nothing bad will happen in DBS. Everything can now be fixed with the dragon balls.

Borto by a far margin

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Only one Boruto arc for now, but:

Future Trunks Arc > Ghost Incident Arc > Universe Survival Arc (so far) > Champa Arc >>>> DBS Movie Re-tellings

Animation-wise: Boruto >>>> DBS

>>159425342
>Future Trunks Arc > Ghost Incident Arc
you mean Firs Half Black Arc > Anything else > Second Half of Future Trunk

>>159425068
Boruto by an incomprehensible margin.

DBS is garbage.

DBS is embarrassingly bad so I would assume Naruto: Boruto is the better show

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Burrito

Better:
> Writing
> Fighting choreography
> Animation

>>159425068

Boruto

I haven't watched either but I refuse to support DBS in any way.

>>159425068
Boruto is better, but saiyan grill are good too

DBS is fanservice, if you never watched DB and DBZ you won't get much out of it.
Boruto is done so new kids can get into it without knowing the previous universe; of course still better to watch/read naruto but not a requirement at all in my opinion.

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The DBS movie re-tellings really pull DBS down a lot.

It stumbled a bit in the Champa Arc, but it has gotten MUCH better since the Future Trunks and Universe Survival arcs.

There was high expectations for DBS, so of course there are people who are disappointed.

On the other hand, expectations for Boruto were low...so people are pleasantly surprised.

>>159425534
What are you saying you don't like epic DBS choreography where 20 arms are drawn and disappear while shouting DYADYADYADYADYAYDYADYAYDYAYDYADYAYDYAYDYAYDYADYAYDYAYDYA?

>>159425068
>Boruto actually tries to be a good sequel
>Super is just fan pandering with bad animation and recolors
Yeah i wonder which one is better

>>159425068
Boruto, easily

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Name a better episode in Boruto

>>159425068
Boruto kinda has an unfair advantage being that it had only just recently complete it's first arc so it hasn't done anything to make fans hate it
Not to mention that it's a time-skip of Naruto so with time-skips they can introduce a new setting and make a lot of new things fresh and interesting whereas with DBS takes place after Majin Buu saga and things just sort of happen whether they be new forms or new characters just appear and things already get rolling into inevitable fighting
Boruto's animation has been pretty good when it comes to some action sequences whereas DBS has a bunch of action sequences with meh animation and then blow the entire toei budget into the final battle of the current arc

While Boruto has many better aspects of a show, DBS is more entertaining as of right now because even if it's bad its still DB, DB doesn't have to do much to make people get hype or to even like it, even thought it should at least try to be the best it could be like Boruto tries to do
Give Boruto some time, don't let him drown in fillers, and the show will become more entertaining than DBS

tl;dr Boruto is the better dhow but DBS is more liked because its DB and people just eat that shit up

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Burrito needs a aylmao like DBS

>>159425736
I laughed at chuuni Boruto and at the fight vs Steven Seagal

I can't stand any of the new charcter designs in DBS, they all just look awful, with the exception Beerus and Whis. So probably Botuto even though I haven't watched it yet.

I find myself not giving a fuck about what's going on in Boruto, but I care about what's going on in Super.

I'll care more about Boruto once they get done with that dark energy bullshit that feels like the plot of every Naruto movie and probably also has an obligatory princess to go with it.

Boruto will be good once they get into the shit that matters.

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>>159425704
And yet, DBS always makes it to the Japan TV Ratings Top 10...while Boruto doesn't

>>159425068
This isn't fair. Boruto's writers aren't hindered by having to follow an incompetent hacks outlines. Literally any potential for DBS to be good is ruined by Toriyama.

>You know what's hype? vegetto
>We're going to use vegetto!?
>yeah, but we're going to nerf him into oblivion then have him job so that he's never useful or asked for again.
>t...toriyama why?
>FUCK YOU

Meanwhile over on boruto
>Hey I don't think this story is edgy enough
>YO KISHI, SHUT THE FUCK UP WHILE WE'RE SAVING NARUTO.

>>159425967
The Naruto movies all had good animation too but it didn't stop them all being pointless filler bullshit with stuff that generally didn't fit the Naruto.

>>159425967
On the same country that still has SEED Destiny as it's best Gundam series according to its populace

>>159425967
DBS airs in prime time, While Boruto doesn't.

>>159425534

Hinabi is so fucking hot

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>>159425965
>Boruto will be good once they get into the shit that matters.

I don't mind the Ghost Incident arc. It has been pretty comfy for the most part, with good animation comparatively to DBS.

The next arc will be Naruto Gaiden (manga) starting early August, and there are plenty who are excited to see that animated

>>159425068
Both of them are good in their own way.

>>159425819

Haven't they already fought devil ninja gods from outer space?

>>159426121
I like the Slice Of Life stuff in amongst it but once I saw class prez who has the largest "LOOK AT THE CHARACTER THAT DOESN'T BELONG" sign I've ever seen, and I got a glimpse that we're dealing with some Monster that isn't really a tailed beast, I just got massive Naruto movie vibes and my Interest evaporated.

But that Gaiden arc was good, so I'll be interested to see it animated.

>>159426199
Found the NSCuck

>>159426238
>NSCuck
You'll have to remind me what NS Stands for and what side of things you think I'm on.

>>159426280
Don't play dumb.

>>159426280
Naruto Shippuden, nigga

>>159426280
There's this new meme (by one faggot probably) about NaruSaku shippers jumping ship to BoruSara despite the fact that both characters invalidate NS completely and that both charaters have been exhibited to not be just an expy of their parents.

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DBS has been pretty exciting

Also the DBS manga looks much better

>>159426458
How does the fight still look like shit?

>>159426435
Romance in Naruto is retarded when it comes to Naruto's generation anyway and Kishi didn't know what he wanted to do until he made a choice, I think Hinata is fine..

Minato/Kushina and Asuma/Kurenai had that shit figured out much better.

I do like Boruto & Sarada's dynamic though.

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>>159425068
DBS is garbage. Show me one scene from the sequel that's better than this sequence.

>>159426495
Sped up to imitate the high frame action of DBZ.

>>159426029
But Toyotaro introduces these limitations in ways that make sense and don't goof up the characters. It is entirely Toei's fault that they half ass the plot.

Vegeto having a one hour limit was the reason Vegeta agreed to the fusion again, and wasn't something unexpected like it was in the anime. It also served as a weakness to Zamasu. Toei straight up overhyped Zamasu and Black, resulting in a very inconsistent arc for the anime.

I mean, GT>DBS. So obviously Boruto is better.

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DBS flanderized Goku. Boruto doesn't have that problem at least

>>159425068

DBS is a sequel? I thought it was a reboot.

Boruto is far better than it has any right to be.

>>159425534
>When you want to be a badass ninja, but your mom beats you up.

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>>159426614
>But Toyotaro introduces these limitations in ways that make sense and don't goof up the characters.

Sorry but while you like Toyotaro, there are plenty of DBS (I'd say over half by now) that don't.

Many fans aren't happy with:
> Nerfing Hit, Black, Trunks Fused Zamasu
> Retconning SS God
> Side-lining Trunks in his own arc
> No power-up for Trunks except healing
> Side-lining Future Mai as well
> All the "homage" copies
> Giving Goku a fusion-tier transformation (Mastered SSB)
> Giving Goku a god of destruction-tier technique...without any mention of how he learned it (hakai)

>>159425068
Boruto.
DBS I feel has no sense of urgency or danger. Any terrible damage done will always be reversed by the Dragonballs, no new villain can ever be threatening because Goku literally is buddies with Gods who can just destroy the enemy completely.
Even with all the universes on the line, we already know things will turn out fine because Super will end up tying into the EoZ eventually.

>>159426693
This would be a great Yu-Gi-Oh plot.

>>159425819
They do have ayylmao. Boruto killed 1 or 2 in the movie

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>>159426620
> GT>DBS

HA not even close

>>159426895
But that is his semen demon aunt who might be interested to wrestle in the bed with Burrito for bloodline Hyuga shit.

>>159426949
I'l never understand why some people were upset that Trunks saved the day. It was his own arc and as for the sudden power up, have they forgotten what the fuck they are watching? Dragonball always had the new powerup like a new SS form pulled out of their ass at the last possible moment to save the day.

>>159425068
Dragon Ball Super(Manga)>>Boruto(Anime)>>>>Dragon Ball Super(Anime)>Boruto(Manga)

>>159425068
Super is pretty much a bored successful man after his 3rd series and his career doing whatever he wants to think just because it sells.

Boruto is an older man pretty much letting other people continue his work.

>>159426036
However due to how butchered the manga is currently and the anime starting off somewhere with actual other characters. The episodics of the fillers is about just as canon as my Cowboy Bebop manga.

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>>159425967
Japan has shit taste

Curious George beat both DBS and Boruto

Boruto is way better, DBS has been shit from the start and hasn't improved one bit

I'm gonna start watching Naruto, is there an info guide on which shit to skip?

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Boruto is better solely because it does not exist in a void that we know nothing bad can happen to the main characters since it's before a confirmed ending to the series. I mean, I don't hate Super, but you know that there are virtually no stakes for the main cast we know. Boruto exists as a continuation to the Naruto story so we don't know really where it's going to go in the end

If anything, Boruto is a long wait to "what the fuck happened to get to pic related"?

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>>159425736
Easy

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>>159427848
Naruto Part 1 Guide:
http://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/naruto

Shipuuden Guide:
http://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/naruto-shippuden

Not all of the Part 1 filler are bad, but I would skip the filler hell (136 - 220) and go straight to Shippuden.

Also The Last and Boruto are canon movies for Naruto

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>>159425819
>Burrito needs a aylmao like DBS
Sup

Actually Toneri is talking to Bort in his dreams so we've got 3

>>159428048
>Already doomed to be edgy crap by the end.
What's the fucking point?

>>159428175
Kakashi vs Obito was literally the best fight in the series. It didn't drag on, it had emotional weight behind it, it wasn't over the top but rather actual ninja fighting. Better than Lee vs Gaara

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>>159428280
Edgy=!bad. The problem with Naruto's edge was that it was executed poorly.

I mean Kakashi's entire backstory on paper is edgy as fuck but it's executed in a good way. Naruto just made everything about hatred and Uchihas doing everything wrong. It's the execution that matters.

Boruto because it's funny how Orochimaru got away with everything.

>>159425237
You mean everything can be fixed by Whis or Zeno

>>159425068
boruto

>>159427168
Not to mention he didn't even save the day

>>159425068
You wouldn't know it by the obnoxious promo art, but Bort's been so much better it's not even funny anymore.

It's only been one arc though so far, so time will tell.

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>>159425068
Boruto. I've been watching both and I prefer the SoL setting by far. Also the fact that despite DBS looking "better" they still blatantly recycled the same Basil kicking animation three times last episode without even trying to make it seem subtle. I really hope that it'll get better but knowing that it's just another cash cow and an intended saturday morning cartoon at this point it's sort of pointless to expect any better.

>Dragon ball super manga is done by a literal tracer with deviantart tier writing
>Boruto manga is done by untalented hack with deviantart tier character design
Just fuck my Shonen(s) up.

animation wise Boruto is more consistent
DB Super has its peaks though

>>159429392
They do this in every anime, stock footage helps prevent QUALITY

>>159427848
Watch Naruto except for fillers
Skip Naruto Shippuden entirely (I'll let you watch the Sakura and Chiyo vs. Sasori fight, but there's nothing else of alue there)

>>159428307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZQBp97m4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkIZkA6Pdbs
No

One has constantly high ratings in Japan and insane merch sales

The other is Boruto

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>>159428522
>Boruto because it's funny how Orochimaru got away with everything.

Same is happening in DBS with Freeza

>>159428836
His new transformation was absolute bullshit and the entire arc was handled badly, not to mention most of the battles were animated badly.

>>159426949
Kanzenshuu =/= All the DBS fans around the world.

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>>159430484
LITERALLY has done nothing wrong

>>159430198
Shikamaru vs. Temari is pretty great but Shino vs. Kankuro isn't really that special. It's just Shino stylin' all over Kankuro, which is cool and all, but there's nothing much going on other than the novelty of what Shino can do

(remembers that this is the last time Shino does anything in the canon story)

Boruto

An actual good introduction arc, awesome and especially NEW characters, good fights and still good animation while the DBS animation already fell after what was it? Episode 3?

>>159429509
It's even worse than DeviantArt shit. Ikemoto is a hack and should of just let Kishimoto do it.

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>got bored of Naruto some time after they used FIGHTING DREAMERS as the opening 10 or so years ago
>tfw missing out on Boruto now

>>159429509
>manga

>>159430840
Didn't he murder millions? what if he killed your mom? would you care?

>>159430484
Frieza didn't directly wrong the protagonists as much.

Both are shit, but Burrito has been less shitty so far.

>>159430981
You are just missing out a SoL piece of garbage series, the faggots here only like it because muh moe funny characters

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>>159430943
>while the DBS animation already fell after what was it? Episode 3?
Episode 5

However Toriyama complained about the anime quality, and they moved the production schedule from 4 weeks to 6 weeks.

Ever since then, and the creation of the DB Room for quality-control, DBS has been looking better

>>159430943
>good fights and still good animation

They look like they are fightning underwater, Kakashi vs Obito and Naruto vs Sasuke XXVIII had the same problem. I fucking hate it, it looks so bad

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>>159431091
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Right now, burrito is a competent kids show with 1 arc. It's also exceptionally well produced for what I assume is going to be a long-running anime, or at least one with breaks. I expected the quality to drop within 5 episodes but it hasn't yet, they seem to know where to prioritize. But it's still the first arc, there are plenty of chances where the quality would drop.

DBS' production is way more shoddy, and since I'm not that into it, I can't really comment on the plot. However, the production quality seems to be getting better, so I don't know.

For now, I'd say Boruto, but I don't say that with confidence that it'll stay that way.

>>159430927
Shino seals Torune later on
Torune was Danzos best fighter

>>159425237
>Everything can now be fixed with the dragon balls.

Have you even watched it? An entire timeline or multiverse was erased.

>>159431290
My god, he really is a fucking idiot now (in the anime at least). He should know better, after all he was also a brutal murderer like Freeza

>>159426539
Shit, that actually looks good.

Fuck me, I really don't wanna watch this. It's probably not horrible, but I don't want to watch an unfinished long-running anime.

>>159431321
>Shino seals Torune later on
Like, I specifically said in my post "in the canon story". Shino does a lot of shit in filler arcs

>>159431149
isn't the bottom a single shot though

>>159431363
They could bring it back with the Super Dragon Balls.

>>159431363
And it change nothing.

>>159425068

I liked both, but Boruto is a better sequel, by far.

>>159426539
Vegito vs Zamasu.

Boruto has that problem that >>159431210
this guy is talking about, everything looks so slow

>>159431363
Are you retarded or do you sincerely not believe all the universes won't get restored at the end by the Super DBs?

>>159431521
>Vegito vs Zamasu.
I like that fight too but that's a really standout fight in the entire series and it's undercut by the fact that the fight is only like 10 minutes before they split. Bort has like moments of really good animation ever 3 episodes or something.

Even episode 1 had this fantastic well animated parkour sequence and that wasn't even fighting

>>159431479
>>159431535
seeing how the zamasu arc ended i honestly think the super DB prediction is too predictable, toryiama probably will think about something batshit stupid again

>>159426539
That fur looks fucking incredible, holy shit.

Chengxi is fucking legit. I hope he gets more recognition.

>>159430927
Other fights that are decent include
>Granny and Pinkshit vs Sasori
>Kiba vs Sakon and Ukon
>Shikamaru vs Tayuya
>Tobi vs Torune and Fu

>>159431629
At the end of the manga you see that everything is alright on earth, so we know that U7 won't be erased, and for the rest of the universe, who cares? We don't know them at all. Who cares about random butterfly lady, or mad scientific n°351.

>>159425068
Kawaii oniichan so kawaii

>>159431789
They can just retcon EoZ its not like anybody remembers that fucking garbage part of Z. Maybe this time they will get UuB right

>>159431479
>>159431492
they can't bring it back. Its fucking gone. Dragon balls restore things from other world and bring them back to life from being dead.

That timeline or multiverse is NOT dead it is NOT in other world/hell/heaven.

It is ERASED. It does not exist anymore. Its not in hell, its not dead. It is GONE .

>>159431423
It was a joke vegeta knows frieza still evil he just had to convince his son that he wasnt,

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>>159431149
I hope the Universe Survival arc will look progressively better, like the Future Trunks arc did

The movie re-tellings were unforgivably shitty

>>159431465
I didn't know that was filler
Why didn't the manga show Torune fight?
Also, why didn't the manga reincarnate the sound 4, they are gate building specialists, they have been shown very useful in the Konoha invasion isolating Hiruzen

>>159425068
I can't bring myself to watch boruto.

I just know ill be let down again. I know eventually they are going to run another 2years of filler at once. I know the ending will be terrible with the final villain being replaced by a literal who.

I'm not falling for the same meme again.

>>159431933
>They can just retcon EoZ
That's not how that works

>>159432092
>Why didn't the manga show Torune fight?
I'm not sure if you realize this but if you only watched the anime there's a fuckload of fights that were filler like I think I heard the Sound 4 get revived? That was filler.

Isn't Boruto basically all filler?
What even is happening there? A big villain or something? Or is it basically the life of the little fucktard and his friends

>>159432138
Soft Reboot

>>159425068
Super is fanservice bullshit made to sell figures and videogame so Boruto

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>>159432138
>Isn't Boruto basically all filler?
Boruto is in a weird state where everything is canon, not just the manga. The guy who does the manga also writes the anime and the illustrator for the manga draws for the anime's light novel which confirms the characters who aren't in the manga are canon. Also this is before the movie which is absolute and the manga only recently did a Dragon Ball Super and adapted the movie into manga format and then started going from there. It's likely the anime will do the same. Here's a handy-dandy guide

>>159432138
Does it really matter if something is filler? Ultimately the purpose of anime is to be entertaining. People obsess over that term way too much.

>>159432122
I didn't watch the anime
I watched some of the edited fights on yt
I had the wiki and I had read which reincarnations were real and which were filler, my mistake was thinking that all fights involving canon reincarnations were canon too, and hence I though the Torune fight was real

>>159432308
If you know it's filler you know it's shit beforehand

>>159431933
Toyo already said that Super will tie with EoZ in a cohesive way.

>>159431948
Super Dragon Ball has no limit silly. Not for nothing is the fucking prize. Its painfully obvious how its going to end.

>>159432402
Actually, some of the Bleach filler was better than the actual canon story at points

>>159432308
>Does it really matter if something is filler? Ultimately the purpose of anime is to be entertaining. People obsess over that term way too much.

Yeah watching the little cunt and his friends doing absolutely nothing that matters for 300 episodes will be fun

Boruto. It's currently returned to the basics of what made people like Naruto while maintaining an average animation level.

Super on the other hand is failing to recapture what made earlier arcs of DBZ good and just fell into the trap of the Buu arcs constant escalation to the point where nothing matters with bad animation most of the time.

>>159425819
The Ootsukis are aylmaos.

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Boruto brought Naruto back to Part 1

DB Super brought DB back to the Buu Saga

>>159425068
Super, this is no debate

>>159425068
I want to say Boruto, but it's too early to judge its quality. I'll wait until they get to the movie retelling.

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>>159431471
>isn't the bottom a single shot though
Yeah it's a still image,

>>159432825
So Super is better?

>>159425819
All the future major villains are going to be moon bunnies, so we'll see where they go from there.

>>159426036
By the end of the manga the plot had devolved into train wreck of half-baked ideas, so I don't really mind when the movies do their own thing.

>>159431668
I'm counting down the days until he starts his own studio and we get non-stop, well animated action series.

>>159425068
Can't really compare current DBS to Boruto because Super had 100 episodes to setup its current arc.
If I have to compare early Super to Boruto then Boruto is much better. Super is better if you say the U6 vs U7 tournament was the real start of Super since the first 2 arcs were recaps.

>>159425068
Hard to compare. Super is clearly meant to be a continuation of DBZ, and while Boruto is a sequel to Naruto I wouldn't call it a continuation of the same story, rather the beginning of a different story taking place in the same universe. In terms of overall quality I would say Boruto is decidedly better but it's hard to say which is the better sequel.

I tend to like Boruto-style sequels more, especially when the preceding material had a definitive ending. I personally really liked DBZ's ending and would have preferred a sequel focusing on a different character. Instead, by continuing to focus on Goku you have to continue the escalation to unreal levels, which inevitably leads to asspulls and other shoddy writing. With Boruto at least you can start fresh, and you have the benefit of being able to look back at Naruto and see what to avoid repeating and what to mirror for the sake of symbolism and narrative flow. It's still a bit too early to accurately judge either of them. I think they're both good sequels in their own right, at least so far, but I would lean towards Boruto being stronger.

>>159429780
I'm well aware of that but I've picked up an eye for it with time. And it just seemed so shameless for something that's (at least supposed to be) as big as Dragon Ball.

>>159433587
>Super is better if you say the U6 vs U7 tournament was the real start of Super
That arc is boring and pointless though.

Boruto is less shit.

I don't follow Naruto, but did this sequel increase the scale of the setting by introducing a whole lore about gods and multiverse?

>>159433645
DBZ did it as well
if anything, Toei was dumb for waiting this long to do it with Super
at the same time if they are finally going to do bank animation it shows that they care now and production has improved

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>>159433649

The Champa arc introduced:
> Super DBs
> Super Shenron
> The all-knowing Zuno in the center of the Universe
> Zeno and the god hierarchy
> Dragon god Zarama
> Bulma's sister Tights
> Universe 6 characters
> Planet Sadala
> SSB Kaioken

I wouldn't call the Champa arc "pointless"

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DBS has gotten consistently better since the end of the movie retellings, and the movie retellings have been touched up on by the BluRay release, albeit they still don't look as good as the better parts of Zamasu/Tournament of Power.

DBS also does some good things for DB like expanding on the relatively unexplored world. Frieza's empire was completely fucked for a decade and a half due to his death, and he is revived because of just that. Hakaishins destroy troublemakers and balance the world while Kaioshins create life and see it go somewhere. The introduction of the god levels and tying up loose ends (and fixing retarded shit, like Buu's magical fart gas being able to override potara, which wasn't done all too well, but it's better than what I just said) is also good too.

I haven't read Boruto so I'm not going to make any comparisons, but I haven't heard anything about Boruto expanding on the Naruto World that much.

DBS is a mixed bag, getting better towards the end.

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>>159433086
that webm still looks good

also Goku vs Toppo is underrated as fuck

>>159425068
I disliked Naruto but actually like Baruto

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The only people who dislike Super now are retarded Z-babbies obsessed with muh power levels

>>159434018
God that looks like shit.

>>159434109
and people who don't like the shitty writing and fights

>>159434179
autistic shit that contradicts your autistic powerscaling isn't shitty writing
Super has increased the scale of the DB world, that is good writing no matter how much you say otherwise

>>159426121
>Only interesting thing to happen to this series in a long time
>N-never mind Sakura is 100% your mom it was just a misunderstanding!
Fuck this show

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>>159426121

Boruto started off strong, and now the next arc is animating Naruto Gaiden: Sarada

If Boruto keeps up this pace, it'll be far better than DBS

>>159434233
>Super has increased the scale of the DB world,
Yeah good job there, too bad the rest of the writing is shit.

The Super manga is a fucking disgrace that made Goku a complete Mary Sue and also constantly ruins any rival/villain

>Hit is a jobber weaker than not-Frieza, when he was supposed to be the character that shows how the multiverse is full of strong mortals other the saiyans
>Black is generic as fuck and doesn't even do the ki-sword, his trademark move
>Zamasu has zero character development
>EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
>Merged Zamasu doesn't do any of the cool shit he did in the anime, he just spams kachin blocks and reuses Janemba's portals
>Merged Zamasu has a time-limit for no good reason and the mangafags will defend it no matter what
>Vegito does even less than in the anime
>Goku suddenly out of nowhere ''masters'' Super Saiyan Blue even though he did jackshit the whole arc while Vegeta trained for a year in the time-chamber
>Goku is suddenly now able to fight on par with Merged Zamasu
>Goku does hakai out of nowhere with zero buildup or foreshadowing, an asspull way bigger than Trunks' spirit bomb
>there is even less tension than in the anime arc because all the earthlings are already dead in the future so this whole fight is literally for nothing
>on top of this, Toyotaro can't come up with original fighting panels so he constantly does ''homages''

Toyotaro is hack
is the Boruto manga this bad as well?

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>>159434323
Can't wait to see Papa Sasuke be a terrible dad ANIMATED

>>159434434
The Boruto manga is better writing-wise, but it looks worse.

Kishi's assistant is not able to replicate his art-style as good as Toyo can for Toriyama

>>159434691
>but it looks worse.

You can say that twice.

>>159434650
100% they will alter it, it was already confirmed that sarada gaiden isnt cannon, and it will be altered. This is one of the scenes they will alter 100%, since Sasuke should recognize his own dautheru.

>>159432825

The Buu saga was still good enough.

More like brought back DB to GT.

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> people still liking naruto

>>159434925
>Sasuke should recognize his own dautheru.

Do we know how long is has been since he saw her for the last time? If she was a toddler it would make sense.

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>>159427254

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>>159426620
>>159435018
> GT

GT fucking sucks. So terrible it can make shit like Super look like a masterpiece

>>159434925
This is a key scene. It's going to stay the same.

If anything changes, it will be the bits with Boruto.

>>159435027
I remember when making a Naruto thread here on /a/ would be considered an offense and a way to troll the board

What the fuck happened?

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>>159434925
>was already confirmed that sarada gaiden isnt cannon

The fuck are you talking about?

Not only is there is a manga out for it, it was written and drawn by Kishimoto

>>159425068
Haven't started either but might jump on board with Super because I never watched naruto

as someone who cares little about the artistic integrity of either i enjoy Super more. Boruto isnt good, but is just competently written enough to not be stupid. but i dont give a fuck about either, and super is such a ridiculous spectacle that its a lot more fun. even with the shittier episodes the threads are still a fun ride.

>>159435182
Basically they decided to alter the story abit or something, so naruto gaiden isnt cannon anymore once we get Boruto episodes of it.

>>159435215
Watch the Battle of Gods and Resurrection F movies and then start watching Super from episode 28
Animation won't get good until like thirty episodes later though

>>159434925
>it was already confirmed that sarada gaiden isnt cannon

Says who?

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>>159425647
>There was high expectations for DBS
>implying
Everyone knew it was being animated by Toei, but even with those low expectations it still disappointed.

>>159435170
>>159435027

You are acting like if this board have some knid of stander. People here love shit like Eromanga, for fuck sake.

>>159435182
Naruto in this image really fucks with my eyes, it still looks like 2 halves pasted together, but I can't see what makes it look like 2 halves pasted together, if that makes any sense.

>>159435170
People stopped trying so hard with the faggy hivemind shit when they realized that they actually had quite a fondness for Naruto that the ending brought to the surface.

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>>159425664

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Boruto has more tension:

In DBS, Goku and Vegeta are already way too overpowered and they are already fighting the strongest fighters from every Universe. Not to mention they have the Dragon Balls to fall back on.

Boruto already has shown since the first episode that everyone is NOT safe, and that shit will go down

>>159425068
do i have to watch all of shitpin for boruto, im like 250 eps away from finishing

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DBS will be ever remastered?
seems like your retarded 13 yo cousin is animating this fuck sake anime.

The only reason Barrista is better is the art stule

>>159435254
> no source

Why are you lying anon?

I stopped watching Naruto a little bit after the time skip. Do I need to slog through all of it or what

I read the last few chapters of the naruto mango but I really didn't know what was going on

>>159435413
>>159435430
Just read it. As bad as the manga gets near the end the anime is ten times worse with all of that fucking filler.

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>>159435380
In the current arc there is no Dragon Balls to fall back on, they win or they die.
And they can't win easily because these two (actually more) exist and Frieza is inarguably going to cause shit.

Zamasu was the cause of the destruction of Future Trunk's entire timeline, killing everyone he knew about except Future Mai (and erasing those who were in the afterlife as well)

>>159435483
what if i skip the fillers?

>>159435369
What, you noticed nobody gives you attention anymore in the DBS threads so you start spamming your autistic cherrypicked shit in other threads?

>>159435430
Read the manga. If you want to watch a scene in motion play the Storm games

>>159435567
Still not worth it. The anime takes much longer to watch and it's hard to pick out the filler vs. canon material since they get mixed together in some episodes.

>>159435430
You can play the storm games since they are coming in pc so you might be abke to pirate them.

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>>159435423
DBS' bluray release already touch up the poor stills and some of the animation.

It's very typical of any anime and literally no DBZ/DB footage you see today is the original TV airing.

>>159435567
If you feel like picking through it that finely then be my guest.

Alternatively like >>159435616 said the games are probably the ideal method of experiencing the series in motion and with sound.

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>>159435430
>>159435413
I'd recommend the Naruto Manga, but you technically don't need to for Boruto.

Since it's just a brand new story rather than a continuation, as long as you know the majority of the characters you should be fine

If anything, just see The Last and Boruto Movies

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>>159435579

>>159435579
The funny thing is that he doesn't even bother changing the filenames
I'm almost tempted to do an archive search and see how many fucking times he spammed his shit

>>159435413
>>159435430
Read summaries.

>>159425534
>>159425967
Why the fuck couldn't they have animation like this for Guy vs Madara?

>>159426693
The problem is that the Cell and Buu saga Goku had to be retconned otherwise he couldn't be the MC anymore

>>159435756
Saving money for the upcoming Naruto and Sasuke v. Madara scenes, I'd guess. At least the game did it justice.

>>159435756
If I remember correctly: when Bleach got canceled, some of their best animators moved to Naruto (towards the very end)

>>159435848
That it did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04e8UupoY30

>>159434323
Will they retcon that mess as they did with Naruto's bad parenting?

>>159426693
I honestly prefer goofball Goku to generic superhero hope of the universe Goku
Maybe I'm the only one with this but whatevs

>>159425237
>Boruto is better
SoL fags actually believe this

Is it true Sakura is a total MILF?
Is that why she was always so shit before?

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>>159426693
Yeah Toei really fucked up his character and turned him into a parody of himself.

>>159436478
When I was a kid I always thought Goku was a boring and bland character in DBZ
At least this new Goku is more entertaining and more similar to kid Goku

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>>159425068
Super is fucking trash but I have zero intention of getting any where near Burrito since it looks even more trash. Authors should know when to end it for good. Look at FMA's author. The series had a conclusive ending and despite the very open possibility for a sequel, she decided to leave it alone.

>>159436527
>At least this new Goku is more entertaining
If you're a retarded kid sure but for everyone else nope.

>more similar to kid Goku
Not even close

>>159434323
>No
>sasusaku arc
>no sakura on the preview
Sick of this show's shit. boruto shouldn't be there, this is our story.

>>159434434
>an asspull way bigger than Trunks' spirit bomb
Not on your life, sport.

>>159436624
Bort is probably there just for marketing, same how all the initial gaiden promos focused on him despite Sarada ending up being the MC

>>159435427
he's telling the truth, there's a canon timeline in the thread. Gaiden is being retold in novel 2, that'll be the canon version of the story.

>>159434434
Toei shills are desperately trying to bring the manga down to the level of the anime. It's hilarious seeing them try.

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>>159436674
> Saiyan Saga-tier move out of his ass
> God of Destruction move out of his ass

>>159426029
>>we are saving naruto

Man I keked so hard on this, because it's true. And I still didn't watch the anime only ep 1 and 2

I haven't seen Boruto but I assume it's better than Super

>>159435413
No, not really. Boruto is a good pick up point for people who dropped Naruto after it started going down hill. Most of the questions you will have can easily be googled.

>>159436797
>Saiyan Saga-tier destroys the body of a being that tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

>>159436624
>sasusaku arc

more like anti-sasusaku arc

>>159436797

Goku is a God of Destruction candidate so him using Hakai is fine, while training with Beerus and Whis he had many opportunities to see it and he has always had a exceptional ability to take on people's move, also it's never stated Hakai is limited only to GoD that's a headcanon people are trying to push.

Future Trunks has never even seen the Genki Dama yet he somehow unknowingly creates and he does without the consent of the Earthling something was needed for the regular Genki Dama, somehow Ki of a nearly wiped out Earth is able to defeat a being that tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto.
Remender that SSG Goku is Universe tier while holding back.


These are two are in no way comparable, sorry.

>>159436624
>the tears if the did a true sasusaku scene
All the tumbler n/s fans watching their self insert living happily ever after with her "abusive" unstable relationship?

Ignore all the pathetic Boruto tards who live with cats or their mothers. DBS is better and is way more popular in japan. Boruto is hated in japan and no one even watches it, it's not in the anime ratings and it's first arc and latest manga bombed.. For sane people, Boruto is crap. At least Dragon Ball is still very popular in Japan. Man Boruto tards are sad people. Keep dreaming losers!

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>>159434323
>If Boruto keeps up this pace
Boruto could die and Lee jr become the new MC and it still would be better than Super. Everytime i try to watch Super my eyes bleed and not because fo the awful animation but because of the terrible writting and dialog

>>159435413
>>159432278

>>159436870
>tanked a Final Kamehameha
Did you forget that he was immortal?

Zamasu tanked Black's kamehameha, not because he was stronger than him...but because it doesn't affect him

Trunks bypassed that by slicing his body in half (Vegetto only stabbed)

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>>159436916
>Goku is a God of Destruction candidate

Not this again

>>159436916
Goku refused to be a GoD candidate so your whole argument is shit

Not to mention that it was never explained HOW he got the technique.

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>>159436976
>Did you forget that he was immortal?
Nope and if he was a immortal how the fuck did Trunks destroy his body?

>Zamasu tanked Black's kamehameha, not because he was stronger than him...but because it doesn't affect him
Merged Zamasu didn't tank Goku's Kamehameha did he?

>Trunks bypassed that by slicing his body in half (Vegetto only stabbed)
Nice headcanon

>>159436963
Yes because Boruto constantly crying about his daddy not giving him attention is much better dialogue right? And even more aliens and magical eye powers is better writing too right? No wonder you Narutards were banned from here once. There is a limit to how shit somebodies taste can be.

>>159437066
Vegito is not an arbitrator of anything.
Zamasu's immortality was fucked, and his body could be destroyed, but he was still technically immortal as his soul didn't go to the otherworld so it escaped and purposefully began to use the universe as his body (because they operate on that level of power unless you forgot something.)

Also you used the exact same image before and got blown the fuck out and stopped responding.

>>159435935
How much of the shippuden story does 4 cover?

>>159437144
>Vegito is not an arbitrator of anything.
Except the other characters also pointed out how Zamasu wasn't healing after Goku's Kamehameha. The reason being he wasn't immortal anymore after fusing with Black. You meant want to actually watch the episode instead of shitposting.


>Zamasu's immortality was fucked,
Yet he still tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto.

>but he was still technically immortal as his soul didn't go to the otherworld so it escape
He wished for an immortal body not soul, that was just shit writing.

>>159437098
Hey im not saying Boruto is good but its better than the shit that is Super

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>>159437066
>how the fuck did Trunks destroy his body?
He didn't

> Nice headcanon
Says the one saying Goku is a GoD candidate and learned Hakai off-screen

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>>159437290
He wasn't truly immortal, but he was still not capable of being killed.
Being incapable of healing damage is not the same as being mortal you retarded shit.
>Yet he still tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto.
Already addressed.
>He wished for an immortal body not soul, that was just shit writing.
He wished for immortality, the ability to not die, when you for some reason lose your body when you are immortal, your soul becomes your body and you become intangible and still capable of using ki, which is what Zamasu did.

That's how it works in the DB setting and if you can't understand it or argue with that information in mind then consider not posting the same fucking images with the same filenames all the time. Might as well be a tripfag.

>>159437391
also
>inb4 he was killed in the end
he was erased, existence is not life or death, it's nonexistence.

>>159437391
>He wasn't truly immortal, but he was still not capable of being killed.
wew dbs sounds stupid

>>159437455
Because true immortality implies having an eternal existence.

>>159436916
Goku had zero foreshadowing of being able to do a GoD-only move, he did it out of nowhere with zero buildup
>b-but he was a candidate!
He refused to become a god and even though he can use god ki, a common mortal shouldn't be able to use something that only the gods of destruction can do
We don't even know how he learnt it or how learning it even works, ''b-but muh god ki'' is a lazy excuse and blatant headcanon

Meanwhile, Future Trunks being the final hope for humanity was constantly built up throughout the whole arc, so while it's an asspull, at least it fits the tone of the arc and the spirit bomb is nowhere near as exclusive or special as fucking hakai. Hell it's something anyone can learn to do.

So yes, they are very comparable

>>159437196
Around really only about the last 100 chapter and Boruto stuff as DLC.

>>159437336
>He didn't
Are you retarded? Trunks destroyed his body and randomly came back as gas that fused with the Universe.

>Says the one saying Goku is a GoD candidate and learned Hakai off-screen
Different anon and both those things are actually true.

>>159437391
>Being incapable of healing damage is not the same as being mortal you retarded shit.
Stop flip floping, is he immortal or not retard?

>Already addressed.
and you failed to give a good answer.

>He wished for immortality, the ability to not die,
Nope
>He wished for an immortal body not soul, that was just shit writing.
Also immortality=/=randomly fusing the universe. Also
>He wasn't truly immortal, but he was still not capable of being killed.
now he is apparently make up your mind.

>>159437455
nah not really, the fusion's body was unstable so while the soul was immortal, the body wasn't
it's a no-brainer but mangacucks will say ''n-nice headcanon!!!''

>>159437633
If Goku learnt hakai off-screen, then we can just as easily say Trunks learnt the spirit bomb off-screen as well
Retard

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>>159437455
It is

O MY ABILITY TO MERGE WITH THE UNIVERSE OUT OF NOWHERE DESPITE MY BODY BEING DESTROYED

>>159437620
Would it be worth picking up if I stopped watching when Neji died?
I want to give Borrito a shot, but I've only watched the last NaruSasu fight from the end of shippudin since

>>159437490
Whis trains GoDs
He accepted to train Goku

That's it. None of that is headcannon. Goku didn't accept being GoD, but he is still being trained. Those are facts.

Now, thinking Whis has a magical non-GoD training that is just as efficient, or that hakai is only awarded to GoDs, IS headcannon and never stated.

>>159437633
>stop flipflopping
I explained that his immortality did not extend to his existence, it was simply his inability to die in the DB world. My words got mixed up.
>failed to give a good answer
I addressed it in the sentence above that response, if that is not a good enough answer then you are incapable of reasoning.
>he didn't wish for immortality
Yes, he did.
>randomly fusing
He fused with it intentionally, as if possessing it.

Low-hanging fruit as fuck.
>>159437731
You've reposted this before too, you are this guy.
>>159437066

>>159437724
>then we can just as easily say Trunks learnt the spirit bomb off-screen as well
No you can't retard, Trunks didn't even know what was happening and it worked nothing like a really Genki dama. Also he didn't train with King Kai, where as trained with Whis and Beerus. Stay mad.

>>159437780
I can't wait for the anime to introduce actual GoD lore and completely BTFO Toyotaro's hack writing and those that defend it

>>159437784
>I explained that his immortality did not extend to his existence, it was simply his inability to die in the DB world. Except this >>159437066 >not immortal anymore and >>159437290
>Except the other characters also pointed out how Zamasu wasn't healing after Goku's Kamehameha. The reason being he wasn't immortal anymore after fusing with Black. You meant want to actually watch the episode instead of shitposting.

>I addressed it in the sentence above that response, if that is not a good enough answer then you are incapable of reasoning.
Again
>failed to give a good answer

>Yes, he did.

>He wished for an immortal body not soul, that was just shit writing.

>He fused with it intentionally, as if possessing it.
See >>159437731 it's shit writing he randomly got the power to fuse with the Universe out of nowhere.

>Anime: hakai energy is something only gods of destruction have, however a god can lend a fraction of said energy to anyone
>Manga: ANYONE CAN LEARN HAKAI AS LONG AS THEY TRAIN WITH AN ANGEL LOL

the state of Toyocucks

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>>159437925

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>>159425068
Boruto easily.
Not only does it keep the core of Naruto as a story(which is what a sequel needs to do) while advancing the story properly and not having a huge change in tone but it also gives people something they wanted before that's more academy things, learning more about characters and jutsus and stuff that Naruto didn't focus on so much. The story is more cohesive so far going from the manga to the TV series to the movie, while Dragon Ball Super is 2 awful movie recaps, uninteresting characters with 0 personality and repetitive arcs, seriously how many tournaments are there in Dragon Ball...

It also looks 200 times better than the best episode of Dragon Ball Super, not only in animation but in artstyle.

>>159437960
Herms is retarded, more news at 11
The caption even clearly says ''I shall lend you SOME energy of destruction''

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>>159437914
>other characters
who are not arbitrators of his immortality
>again
I accept your concession since you cannot seem to take a logical answer.
Being incapable of healing damage does not = being capable of dying
>he wished for an immortal body
prove that the dragon made his body immortal when there is direct proof to the contrary and the dragon doesn't just automatically make your soul immortal as well because you're not meant to die.
>see my shitty spam repost
According to Gowasu he was "trying to become justice and order itself" (since you love to use other characters as arbitrators, I'll do it too.), which means "intentionally" if you've ever grasped reading comprehension.

If you have god level powers and you are reduced to that form in the dragon ball universe, you can do that. Take your manga volume and cry in it.

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Reminder not immortal soul

>>159438094
That is not the same instance as when he made his wish.
Thanks for showing all your hashes by the way.

>>159438094
TOEI SHILLS BTFO

>>159438002
There was a change in tone from DB to DBZ as well, so I don't understand your point
Also DBS introduced a lot of new lore so the ''IT HAS NOTHING NEW LOL'' point doesn't stand
>uninteresting characters with 0 personality
Blatantly wrong
>repetitive arcs
Actually Super has been very unconventional, which is one of the reason some DB fans hate it

>>159431092
He murdered everyone Vegeta ever knew, nearly had all of Namek killed and murdered Krillin in front of the two of his closest allies and friends. How is that not directly wronging the protagonists?

>>159438143
Hint: Vegeta isn't fine with having to work with Frieza at all
Frieza has been brought back because the universe's existance is at stake, but he's still very evil

>>159427451
>implying Curious george is not the fucking best and deserved it

>>159438140
Execution is where DBS falls flat. Jury is still out on Boruto, but Studio Pierrot is better than Toei by default. If Boruto manages to be consistent, it'll certainly be better

>>159438002
>uninteresting characters with 0 personality
This, the character with the most "hype" right now in the current arc is just some dude that just stands while everyone else is fighting being boring as fuck.

>>159438450
Wrong, people are expecting shit from many different characters including Frieza, Hit, Vegeta, Gohan and etc.
Plenty of tension and characters with personality, especially considering what Frieza did prior to the tournament.

>>159438128
>That is not the same instance as when he made his wish.
We don't see him making his wish dumbass but during the entire arc he mostly says immortal body.

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>>159438002
>>159438450
>uninteresting characters with zero personality

>>159438535
Which is not the same instance as him making his wish, therefor you cannot determine whether he added "body" to the end of his wish or not.
His body being the only thing immortal is your headcanon, and also wrong as per the showings.

Deal with it and can your shitty argumentation.

>>159438518
EoZ pretty much confirms the make it out alive

I'm catching up on Dragon Ball Super because the Dragon Ball FighterZ fighting game got me in a huge mood for anything Dragon Ball.

I finished the Future Trunks arc and I'm fucking speechless. I cannot believe how fucked up this ending is.

>Zamasu kills 99% of the Earth's populace
>Trunks goes back in time AGAIN for help against inevitable genocide. Dude can't catch a break.
>Succeeds in destroying Zamasu after he fuses
>For SOME FUCKING REASON starts becoming the universe itself and actually destroys everything on Earth
>Goku's idea to have Zen-Oh erase Zamasu was good
>But it just destroyed Trunk's entire universe
>Everyone celebrates
>Trunks and Mai decide to go to a different future where they don't belong and pretend that everything is fine
>Everyone is happy
>Like Zamasu didn't fucking succeed and nearly everyone Trunks knew is erased from existence
>Everyone is happy

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW?

>>159438596
>therefor you cannot determine whether he added "body" to the end of his wish or not.
See
>but during the entire arc he mostly says immortal body.
Keep grasping and stay mad.

>>159438626
Yeah, Japan too didn't like the bleak bittersweet ending
I liked it, something new for the series, but it could have been executed better.
The issue with that arc is how much the ending was rushed, there really should have been at least two extra episodes.

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>>159438664
Talking about his body being immortal does not say anything what his actual wish was. The show also contradicts you so you are objectively wrong.
Keep grasping and stay mad.
I might archive this thread and post it whenever your repost your invalid garbage with the same hashes again.

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>>159437766
It is made by the guys that did Asura's wrath abd considering the power creep un the series you probably know what your in for.
>That moment when gamakichi was surfing on katsuyu on top of aoda on top of the juubis tail.
I think it is worth playing.
I had tons of fun playing it, the ridiculous power creep and kaiju shit worked in the games favor.

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>>159438580
>Evil Goku with pink hair
>interesting

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I can't believe how this thread, not even a DBS thread, turned into anime vs manga shitflinging
Fucking Toyopedros are the worst

>defending a shitshow that has inexcusable animation vs Studio Pierrot's attempt and SoL Naruto

>>159425068
I honestly believe Boruto.
Super seems like such a giant pile of shit. Goku just seems even more autistic and sociopathic than he did in Dragonball Z. The animation is fucking garbage and the scene that everyone praises as "good animation" are two people charging at each other with a shaky camera then ending in a detailed still where Frieza's face STILL looks like retarded.

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>>159438784
Yeah, I agree, they are fucking horrible.
>>159438781
Black isn't even Goku, not even close.

>>159438781
But Black's biggest strenght is not being like Goku at all
He's a smug flamboyant fuck who stole Goku's body and won't stop bragging about it

>>159438786
Only people who hate Boruto are the powerlevelfags

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>>159438781

>>159438799
jej
>it's well animated but it isn't because of what happens in the scene

>>159438786
>>159438799
Super's animation is fine now, this meme is getting old
Yes, the initial arcs looked like shit but I can't believe how people are gonna cherrypick the smallest shit in the more recent episodes just to maintain an autistic meme alive

>>159438781
They tried THREE times to do an "Evil Goku" and they're going to try again after Black

>>159435292
what a brave post

>>159439131
except this version of ''Evil Goku'' was actually interesting?
except he isn't even treated as an evil Goku but as his own character?

you know, it's easy to minimize characters like this, however it doesn't help your argument at all

Boruto is better. It's close to the first half of Naruto in feel and scale for the most part, but it doesn't ape it. Boruto's strength is that it's still very much its own thing, and actually adds to the series it came from in a meaningful way. Super doesn't know what it wants to be, and while Toriyama was notorious for writing shit on the fly, it managed to make a requisite amount of sense. Toriyama went through various phases with Dragonball, but arcs had this organic sense of gravity anchoring them from start to finish. Super seems to want to be like early Dragonball using a cast of characters in their 40s and beyond (outside of characters like Gohan,) and it just doesn't work. The lack of choreography also really hurts it, because mediocre (on average) at best animation would be palatable with some decent choreography.

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>>159439131
and they all sucked, boxing Kakarot from some DB fanfic is better than all of them.

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>>159434691
>replicate

That's because he's not trying to you fucking retard

How can you say this looks bad? you've literally never read manga before right? The paneling is great and fluids perfectly, the only problem lacking is shading in some panels but it's been getting better, there's a reason a lot of people praised his art in Japan.

Only stupid kids think that it's bad because he doesn't copypaste Kishimoto's style, it's the same as saying that Bleach would look like shit if Oda took of the drawing because his artstyle is not the same as Kubo's, and that's an extreme case because of super different artstyles.

Ikemoto's artstyle is a tad more realistic than Kishi's, it's quite more common in seinen manga.

>>159435085
>this le upvoat xD
Fucking dbz fags.

>>159439254
>it's still very much its own thing, and actually adds to the series it came from in a meaningful way
Good thing Super did it as well
>Super doesn't know what it wants to be
You know, I wish people would actually put some arguments behind the shit they say
Super has always been about the gods and the universes, there has always been a definite sense of direction in that regard
Saying ''it doesn't know what it wants to be'' is blatantly wrong

Boruto is an annoying, clingy sack of shit. Also I can't take any of it seriously after seeing Naruto die to some edgy tattooed fuck.

>>159439393
holy shit that looks like some bad fan-manga kek

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>>159438846
>He's a smug flamboyant fuck who stole Goku's body and won't stop bragging about it
that sounds like a evil Goku to me

>>159439254
>and actually adds to the series it came from in a meaningful way

So... all the lore Super introduced about the gods and their hierarchy, something that the Buu saga kinda tried to introduce but never really expanded on it, doesn't count?

>>159439393
His art looks great now. The bigger problem is how he draws female characters and their cloths.

>>159439541
If anything the Bort anime seems to be turning him into even more of a Naruto clone.

>>159439541
>after seeing Naruto die to some edgy tattooed fuck.
So you still take it seriously since that never happend.

>>159436478
Another thing that bothers me in DBS, Goku is fucking retarded, in DBZ he was just unaware, in DBS he is flat out retarded.

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>>159440032
The DBS anime is a saturday morning cartoon aimed at little children. Hence why the writing is tailored to the lowest common denominator.

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>>159437790
>Trunks didn't even know what was happening
And neither did Vegeta in the manga

Meaning...IF Goku learned it off-screen (shit writing no matter how you see it), it had to be a private lesson.

The problem is, Goku and Vegeta were always together in Beerus' planet (not to mention Beerus was asleep most of the time there)

You cant shit on one while praise the other. Fuck off you typical toyocuck hypocrite

>>159440146
Naruto and Boruto too but you don't see them acting like complete retards

>>159440216
>And neither did Vegeta in the manga
Well was Vegeta the one using it retard?

>>159440032
>>159440146
>oops I forgot the Senzu Beans
>oops I forgot the Urn in the time machine
>oops I forgot the Seal at Kame house

Shitty shitty arc

>>159440146
>same filename
>caption isn't even bad, literally just a poor analogy

I like how it's always the same people, no matter the thread

>>159440279
Meaning Goku couldn't have been training to use it in Beerus' planet retard

Pay attention

>>159440377
>Meaning Goku couldn't have been training to use it in Beerus' planet retard
Nice headcanon retard

>>159440216
That's not even the biggest issue

Goku and Vegeta weren't there to see Beerus using hakai on Zamasu in the manga version
Sure, he could have shown them off-screen, but I really cannot imagine a good context for that
Keep in mind the technique wasn't even known until this arc

>>159427451
Mits face here always get me.
Those 4th wall breaking stares while the characters are reacting to something always make me laugh.

Why the fuck does Boruto even exist?
At least Super was made like 20 years after the series ended, Naruto instead ended like three years ago
Why can't they just let shit end nowadays?

>>159440708
$$$$$

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>>159440708
The movie did really well, I think it is the most well received Nardo movie to date.
You also forgot that DB pulled the exact same stunt when Z ended.

At least we can say the Super manga is much better then the Boruto manga. I fucking hate Ikemoto's art.

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Boruto:
> comfy Naruto Part 1
> Borutards talking about how much they enjoy Boruto, hype about next episodes/chapters and Sarada Gaiden (anime), and how much of a pleasant surprise the show is

DBS:
> is shit
> Superfags autisticly constantly fling shit at each other over anime vs manga cancer

Maybe the shows are having an effect on their fanbases?

>>159440979
Borutards are friends. Superfags hate each other...it's pretty sad

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>>159431149
>DBS has been looking better

>>159440874
Will Boruto get cancelled after 64 episodes?

>>159438002
>uninteresting characters with 0 personality
That's Boruto

>>159425068
I find DBS entertaining but the animation is a mess. I'd choose Boruto over animation quality alone.

>>159441077
If you think the Future Trunks saga has the same quality of the RoF re-telling, you're lying to yourself

>>159441103
I don't know, I am not sure how well it is doing, but I wasn't saying that.
I was saying that DB also had a new anime right after the original manga ended.

>>159439393
I like Boruto, but everybody in the world has said how bad Ikemoto is at drawing characters. It's something in the faces. Also his loli fetish is really obvious which I appreciate, but can't really condone

>>159441077
Not the same guy, the animation is in general better than it was during the movie retelling, but that really isn't telling as much since being better than the movie retellings is a ridiculously low bar.

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How much input does Kishimoto have for Boruto?

Is Boruto "Naruto GT"? Or more of a "Naruto Super"?

>>159440708
>Why the fuck does Boruto even exist?
There's literally no financial reason to end the franchise. Also, just like how Battle of Gods revived DBZ, the Boruto movie was the most successful one showing that there was interest in a continuation

>>159441160
Overall Super's animation is garbage, only a couple of episodes had a quality animation, don't tell me a fucking arc was well animated cause that's a fucking lie.

>>159440979
We have fun talking about what's happening in the anime and what might happen, but there are always faggots who ruin it.

>>159441077
but it has, dumb moeshitfag