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APOlogize now for the future AOTS.
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First episode was garbage.
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>>159380374
I love Astolfo
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Astolfo!
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>Picking shitty French girl when you have Mordred

Is Sieg gay?
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>>159380488
First episodes always are garbage
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>Will you protect this 100% pure boy from lewd trap and blond cunt?
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>>159380374
>page 5
Stop with this shit, you retard. At least wait a few more pages.
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>>159380521
agree
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>>159380553
This is typical of the franchise
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>>159380618
I can't wait for my boy to get some screentime.
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>Remember Astolfo is pregnant with Sieg's child
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Will the MC bang the blonde chick?
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>>159380764
Traps are better
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>>159380825
Which one?
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>>159380825
yeah
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Send me Mordred pics.
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>>159380825
>>159380875
Jeanne is Sieg's wife and Astolfo is Sieg's mistress.
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>>159380927
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>>159380825
We hope that there is. Astolfo is a better girl than Jeanne
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>>159380374
25 Episodes?
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>>159381269
Yeah.
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>>159380374
Aposhit have the worst threads in this anime season.
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WTF I LOVE ASTOLFO NOW!
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I love karna
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>>159380374
>This is the man who Astolfo put the skirt on for, and got his boipussy pounded by
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>>159381418
Why did He do it?
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>>159381418
Nice sword, faggot.
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>>159381368
Saving all my jew quartz for Alter so I can run a double Jannu team
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>>159381368
Jeanne looks like a clumsy fat cow. Her tits and ass are too big for her figure.
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Who else /Frankenstein/ here?
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>>159381691
>Astolfo’s clothes are based on his tastes—no, not his tastes; rather, he wore them in order to calm and appease Roland, who went mad after he was spurned by the woman he loved. The reason he had that appearance when he was summoned is probably because the Greater Grail decided that that was the point of “Astolfo’s heyday”. How cruel.
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>>159381759
Good anon. Who is the third member?
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>>159380374
Meliodas looks weird in this image
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>>159381759
>spend $300 on jew quartz to get artoria
>most of my 4 star and 5 star shit are craft essences
>didn't get artoria
I just used all my servants to max Saber Lily's level but fuck that pisses me off
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>>159380825
DRAGON DICK
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C
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>>159381831
>He doesn't know about Jannu Alter Santa Lily
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>>159381777
An anon like you would never understand how glorious can be to have a woman with a beautiful ass like that pic.
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>>159381759
Best boys Herc and Waver
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>>159381911
Yes I know she exist, but you could also use Gilles for obvious reasons, or Astolfo gived how popular he has become right now.
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>>159381929
>An anon like you would never understand how glorious can be to have a woman with a beautiful ass like that pic
This pic is the ideal girl for me
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>>159381940
>>159381831
Oops
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>>159381759
Best boys Shirou and Ritsuka
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>>159381316
Saberface characters should be more plentiful.
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>>159382243
What's so good about Marie?
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>>159382285
T H I C C
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>>159380374
I knew that once series start, /a/ will reconsider its opinion.
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>>159382304
The fact that there's nothing bad about her.
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>>159382243
I do think Ruler is the most overrated character in the franchise.
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pure love is 10/10
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>>159382304
Best queen

VIVE LA FRANCE
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>>159380374
Astolfo is old and busted, Roland is the new hotness.
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I can't wait for Riyo to add Roland to the manga.
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Astolfo was a mistake.
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>>159382703
No

>>159382814
Also no
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>>159382814
No one expects the banana
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Does Mordred know where babies come from?
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>>159381887
Why didn't you just reroll?
I think I've got an account with Artoria lying around somewhere. Wanna get the binding code
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>>159382006
>Nasu and Takushit think this is an overly muscular and unattractive girl
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It feels so weird when you've fapped to a character for so long, and suddenly they have an anime.
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>>159383119
Despite being a trap, and being jealous. I'm glad for astolfofag, at least he/she(?) have that joy.
Well, I'm a fatefag in general so I welcome this type of animation.
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>>159383286
She just works.
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>>159383286
Gilles grail powered fanfiction come to life.
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>>159382394
More Jeanne
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>>159383441
>More Mashu
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>>159383286
Gilles uses the grail to wish a version of Jeanne that wants to avenge her death.
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>>159383493
Im ok with this
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>>159383526
So spirits can just possess people and be as strong as servants now?
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>>159383564
She goes on a rampage against the church and the french people that betrayed her first. Then MC-kun kills her.
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>>159383598
She is a Servant. She just happens to be inhabiting the body of a French schoolgirl. Because of reasons.
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>>159383598
Possession thing existed since FHA, but they exploited this idea really hard in FGO. Because they can use a poplular characters like Waver or Rin in that way.
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>>159383749
please stop, i'm gonna have a heart attack
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>>159384066
Pretty sure she killed the king
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>>159380374
The true love story never seen before.
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What the fuck is a Ruler I thought there were only 7 classes. Why isn't Saber a ruler if she is king arthur?
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>>159383974
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>>159384358
Ruler is meant to be a mediator in the war and only servants that have no desire for the grail can be Rulers.
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>>159384358
Ruler is an arbiter for the war, they shouldn't have personal wishes for grail.
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>>159384358
An extra class like Avenger. They aren't an actual ruler, like a king, but someone who makes sure they don't break any of the rules, like a referee.
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What kind of name is Flat anyway?
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>>159384392
That's pretty great
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>>159384211
We Love them
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What subs are people using? UTW?
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>>159384474
A Spanish/Italian one
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>>159384358
Ruler is an arbiter like Pierluigi Collina
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>>159384432
>only servants that have no desire for the grail can be Rulers

I thought Shirou was a Ruler who wanted to use it to save the world?
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>>159385067
The Einzbern cheated him into the class.
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>>159384654
he's extremely popular among women here in Italy
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>>159384472
What is the purpose of Avenger then.
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>>159385164
What's so good about bold guys?
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>>159385067
He's the Manjew of Apo. The Einzbern basically cheated by summoning him.
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>>159385197
Contain Angry Manjew. It just so happens others can fit into the class as well.
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How likely that Edelfelt sisters get a cameo in Apocrypha?
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Why is she so cute?
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>>159384385
fat
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>>159385449
Because you like how she cut down your lower abdomen and tries to force herself into your belly.
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>>159385639
In all the right places.
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>>159385987
>>159386206
Please avoid lewding, if possible.
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How much of Jack will we see?
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>>159380374
I haven't given a shit about traps for several years but Astolfo is roping me back into this shit.
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>watch old Fate/stay night promo
>narrated by Microsoft Sam

http://www.typemoon.com/download/stay_night02_mirror3.html
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>>159383920
>Possession thing existed since FHA, but they exploited this idea really hard in FGO

explain
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Honest thoughts on the Fate/Extra series?
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>>159382304
Big tiddy genetics.
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>>159386781
Nasu put in some effort. You even have to search for clues on Servant identity, in Extra, to make the battles easier.
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>>159381418
And who got his shit kicked in by the spaniards. No wonder Jeanne loves them
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>this crazy bitch murder fucks Astolfo every night
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How big is your Fate collection? You are a true fan right?
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>>159386781
Extra - average as fuck
Extra CCC - untranslated
Extella - boring trash that somehow managed an even lower average quality level than Grand Order
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>>159386388
Her ass
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>>159386781
Fate/Extra - trash, but some characters and ideas are good and fanservice are passable.
CCC - really good game, fixed all F/E mess.
Extella - trash again, maybe Extella DDD will be good.
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>>159386892
>that one manga page
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What's wrong with Extella?
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>>159386781
I am a huge Emiyafag and I love both Extra and CCC, but the gameplay in Extra is an incredible slog that only true autism can get you through. Gil's route in CCC is also fucking amazing and probably one of the best things Nasu has ever shat out.

I haven't played Extella but the people I know who played it think it had cool moments but was shit.
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There's a complete translation of Gil's CCC route on tumblr if anyone's interested.
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>>159387049
Sony made cash grab.
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So why is Jack summoned as Jack the Ripper if she's just a bunch of prostitutes' dead babies? How does that even count as a Heroic Spirit?
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>>159387060
Just be sure to play Gil's route with female MC
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>>159387049
>no other Masters, just more Servant milking
>old characters (most of the cast) don't develop in any significant way
>Nero gets all the spotlight over the previous playable Servants
>only 2 new characters, which are boring waifubait and a forced villain.
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>>159387125
She killed them in London, around the same time. Technically, she's one of the possible versions of Jack the Ripper. Nobody knew anything about the killer after all.
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>>159387049
It's a musou game and if you really like this genre you don't be dissapointed. But they story is kinda meh, expected something more interesting from TM PS4 game. They put some effort, but overall it's just musou with various TM characters.
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>>159387125
Because that collection of dead babies did go around killing women.
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>>159386736
Avenger took control of Shirou's body during the night in F/HA because he has no real physical body. In Grand Order they expanded on this idea by having Servants such as Zhuge Liang and Ishtar being summoned into Wavers and Rins body respectively. Both Zhuge Liang and Ishtar can't be summoned in physical form for an ungiven reason. Usually the Heroic Spirit dominates the personality of the host like in Avengers and Ishtars case, but Zhuge Liang chose not to, so Waver is in full control.

Mashu's case is a bit different in that she's a holds Galahad's soul in her through some unexplained experiment, turning her into a Human with a Servants abilities, a Demi-Servant. I guess Sieg could fall under this category as well once he gets Siegfrieds heart.
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>>159387420
Fate franchise's best couple
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>>159387453
Ishtar can't be summoned normally because she's a goddess. Jaguarman and Quetzalcoatl are the same.
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>>159387569
Quetzalcoatl is special because he never had a physical form to begin with and always took posession of humans to begin with though. So I wasn't sure if that's the reason.
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If the 4th grail war didn't happen, why is Waver still El-Melloi?

Is Apocrypha's timeline one of those "everything is the same except for one key thing" ones?
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>>159387725
Read the LN
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>>159387725
Waver Velvet, who appeared in Fate/Zero. This is him roughly ten years after those events. He was half-forced to inherit the title of El Melloi II by Reines and spend his days working hard to repay his debt and repair the family's Magic Crest while teaching students as a professor.

To find out more about him, go check out “Character material.” Even in the Fate/Apocrypha world, he fought alongside Rider, Iskander, in a subspecies Holy Grail War against Kayneth—that's the setting here, anyway.

After the end of the novels, Caules Forvedge Yggdmillennia also ends up joining El Melloi II's class.

Go to http://tmdict.com if you want more lore
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>>159387725
Waver becomes El-Melloi 2 in every timeline, even if the circumstances change he will always fuck Kayneth out of his position, it's one of the laws of the universe.
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>>159387453
Sieg can take the Siegfried's form for three minutes each time a Command Seal is used.
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>Jannu thought Astolfo was a girl for 4 volumes
Is she dumb?
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>>159387908
Why? Clearly from her own experience crossdrssing is only done under dire circumstances, why would she suspect this really girly lass to have a dick?
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>>159387905
Yes but in those three minutes he's basically the same as Mashu. A Non-Servant taking control of a Servants powers.
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How to get JANNU gf?
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>>159387908
His stats looks like this to her. Also, even Semiramis thinked that he was a beautiful maiden on hippogriff.
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>>159387725
Do people still not understand how the Nasuverse works?

There are absolutes in EVERY SINGLE TIMELINE. For instance, Kotomine will always die in the 5th HGW (this is why he is absent in HA). Similarly, Waver will always become El-Melloi whether he meets Iskandar or not.
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>>159388073
>thinked
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>>159387453
>ungiven reason

They explain it actually. Zhuge Liang is too weak to be summoned as a servant (it makes no sense since some servants like Shakespare are summoned, but that's the official reason), as for Ishtar Divine Spirits can't be summoned as a servants but they can possess human bodies.
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>>159388073
Didn't Saber or Rin say each master will have their own unique and special way to interpret a servant's abilities?
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>>159388100
>whether he meets Iskandar or not
He ALWAYS meets Iskandar.
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>>159388001
Sieg was surprised she couldn't tell from his body.
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>>159388100
I want to add that the Apocrypha El-Melloi 2 has summoned Iskander and fought Fast Wheels in a Mini Holy Grail War.
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>>159388225
Even in the Fate/Apocrypha world, he fought alongside Rider, Iskander, in a subspecies Holy Grail War against Kayneth—that's the setting here, anyway.
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>>159388073
I want a gender bender doujin where its an actual girl
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>>159388164
>Zhuge Liang is too weak to be summoned as a servant
>Somehow Shakespeare and Hans Christian Anderson are okay and Alexandre Dumas is one of the most broken Servants ever introduced
T-thanks Nasu that makes sense I guess.
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>>159388172
Yeah, but F/SN stats sheet become something like a standard for everyone anyway.
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>>159388073
>Those stats
>Not even a decent NP to make up for it
No wonder he's the worst 4* in GO
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>>159387420
What's happening in this scene?
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>>159387908
She also felt jealous of the Sieg and Astolfo relationship
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>>159388346
>No wonder he's the worst 4* in GO

Not anymore. He got buffed today.
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>>159387420
Even those who do not like, will eat
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>>159388346
Until today
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>>159388352
an amazing declaration of love
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>>159388284
>Alexandre Dumas is one of the most broken Servants ever introduced
What? He looks like a really weak servant, even if he can made a various NPs they are still kinda useless because you need a bunch of people who can wield them really well. And even then this team still can be stomped by a more powerfull servant. SF Assassin was a big problem for them, it's laughable how they even thought about outclassing Gil in quantity.
Caster's abilities are a little tricky, but even Emiya is far more broken than him overall.
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Can we all agree that this shit takes a nosedive after Sieg becomes the protagonist over Sisigo?
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>>159388608
No.
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>>159388608
Yes
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>>159388592
He can literally create fan fiction servants, just because everyone in Strange / Fake is on a ridiculous powerlevel doesn't mean Dumas is shit.
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Here is your food of today, Anon!
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A beautiful flower, said to guarantee eternal love between Sieg and Astolfo. When we see a beautiful couple like this, we feel happy and extremely satisfied.
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Best servant lineup
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Fate anime are always interesting, because the premise is so damn good: we know for sure that 90% of the characters are going to suffer tragic/humiliating defeat or even death. This creates suspense.
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>>159389027
>Artoria goes out crying like a bitch
>Mordred goes out smug and smoking
Best girl would have been best king
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>>159388284
fucking solomon is one of the most overpowered characters

>>159387569
and the sun goddes amaterasu has an aspect of herself that only has 1/10th of the power (depending on the amount of tails) as a servant (tomamo)
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Can someone spoil me on what happens to the wheelchair qt?
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>>159389310
She lives and her horse goes out like a man.
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>>159389306
Is that a different Solomon from the one in Apocrypha?
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>>159389214
shit sucks that mordred gets taken out of the story half way in. because of the focus on gayboy sieg
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>>159389396
Yes
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>>159388608
Pretty much everyone agrees to that.
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>>159389396
Apocrypha Solomon is referred to as Avicebron forever and always.
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>>159389450
She dies in the last LN though
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>>159389396
grand order
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Caster_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Solomon)
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>>159388332
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>>159389450
>Halfway
Confirmed for not having read LNs.
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>>159388608
I actually thought Sisigo was the protagonist until Sieg showed up.
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>>159388921
I like it but lacks some of my favorite Servants
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>>159389396
Apoc's Solomon is a Muslim Spaniard from like the 1500's. His middle name/nickname is Avicebron, but his first name was Solomon
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>>159389396
Yes.

Avicebron is this dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_ibn_Gabirol

Not the actual Biblical Solomon. It's just a case of the name being the same.
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>>159387125
And Atalanta defends a bunch of edgy children?
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>>159388608
NO
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>>159388608
bullshit, he saved this series from being a complete disaster.
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>>159386837
Who's the Deviantart OC on the left?
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>>159389934
Henri Sanson, the dude who executed her
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ASTOLFO OR MORDRED?
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>>159390002
Both.
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>>159390002
Astolfo
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>>159389934
FGO's take on Charles-Henri Sanson. You may know the name as being the same as that of the protagonist of the manga Innocent, who is based on the same historical personage.
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>>159390002
Semiramis
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>>159390150
Is that the dangan ronpa artist
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>>159390002
Siegfried
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>>159390352
No, it's a guy called Shima Drill. Ronpa artist only designed Monte Cristo and Cleopatra.
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>>159390002
Atalanta
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Is it just me or the animation is quite shitty compared to the Unlimited Blade Works animation?
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>>159390934
The skeletons aren't CG at least.
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>>159390934
Depends on whether or not you consider swinging lights to be good animation.
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>>159380553
Not always
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>>159390002
Mordred a daughteru
Astolfo a slutfu
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>>159390934
It's just you. The first episode had good animation.
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Is Mordred a girl? Because I remember him being a guy.

Then again, King Arthur was also a guy.
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>>159391958
Must do fan service to satiate muh waifufags, otherwise it won't sell
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>>159391958
She's literally Arturia's homunculus clone in Fate
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Do you think Sieg is going to get an influx of doujins because of the anime?
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Astolfo cannot compete with this.
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>>159390002
Moedred
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>>159391809
Gudao being a raging homosexual in the Riyo comics really does tickle me
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>>159391958
Mordred is the alchemically created clone of the legendary King Arthur who, with a body that was physiologically that of dragon-blooded 15-year-old girl that had been magically equipped with functional male genitalia by the world's most powerful half human and half penis-demon wizard, copulated with her sorcerous half fairy sister while under the effects of a magical enchantment cast by said sister; the identical yet rapidly maturing and eventually gender dysphoric clone being the product of the incestuous union between the half fairy sorceress and the little not-actually-crossdressing dragon girl known as King Arthur.
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>>159392051
100% sure
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>>159391958
It was confirmed that back then when Nasu created FSN, he had no idea what Mordred's gender was and essentially wrote the whole thing ambiguous. Now when Apocrypha was outlined they initially thought that they made him trap male, but when they realized that they already have one in Astolfo, they decided to establish Mordred as crude tomboy girl.
And that's how things go.
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Will Sieg give Mordred headpats and hugs, spin off when
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>>159392392
What do you think most of the doujins are going to be about?
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>>159392051
Good news: Yes
Bad News Better News: All of them are NTR. Every.Single.One Either he gets NTR'd or Jannu is getting NTR'd.
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>>159392524
sieg getting to take siegfried inside himself hopefully
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>>159380374
Vive la france!
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>>159388346
>>159388433
>>159388552
when can I get him in english GO?
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>>159392384
Of course. What a sensible tale.
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>>159391809
lewd
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>>159390002
mr.pink obviously
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>>159388346
Isn't that saber lily though?
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>>159392573
What about doujins of him being gangbanged by faceless men?
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>>159392698
After Valentines
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>>159392803
really? what a wait
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>>159388363
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>>159393040
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>>159392716
Makes as much sense as the various other Arturian legends and stories, funnily enough
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>>159392051
Yes, with black Shirou or Siegfried. I feel Jannu doujins will be her getting pounded by faceless men, same for Astolfo.
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>>159393368
>more astolfo doujins
yes good this pleases me.
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This thread is full of homos
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>>159393368
Nah, Astolfo will get Gudao
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>>159393560
>its homo to astolfo
riiight
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>>159381418
>>159381691
WTF, I love Grand Order now
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>>159393520
Will be Astolfo the next Shimakaze?
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>>159393368
Is Sieg a bottom or a top?
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>>159393676
i hope
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Astolfo spam needs to fuck off.
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>>159393737
if you want more astolfo you can ask nicely
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>>159393700
He's a Mary Sue
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>>159380374
Is it necessay that I need to watch other Fate series before checking out this shit?
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>>159394241
Maybe
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>>159394241
Its best you avoid it, if you want to watch others
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>>159394241
Most likely not. You will probably be able to watch it as a standalone. There are a lot of parallels to other Fate works, but I don't think you'll ever feel any more or less lost watching this show than if you'd watched all other Fate anime out there.
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What even is the point of Rider?
It's like a shitty Saber but you can get to places faster?
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>>159394646
You can do sick burnouts as well.
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>>159394646
What even is the point of Lancer? It's like a shitty Saber but you can stab people with a polearm instead of a sword?

What even is the point of other classes when the system is rigged in Saber's favor? We should just have HGWs with 7 Sabers
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>>159394766
What even is the point of servants? It's not like anyone even wins Holy Grail Wars anyways.
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>>159394571
standalone
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>Anime featuring Astolfo as a main heroin
>Astolfo got leading role in the newest FGO chapter while wearing a cute dress
>Astolfo got buffed from worst 4 star servant to good territory
>Dataminers found out new summer beach outfit for her incoming
What a time to be a astolfo fag.
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>>159394766
>What even is the point of other classes when the system is rigged in Saber's favor?
fucking secondaries
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>>159395341
>all that green text
r-really?
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>>159394646
The most powerful NP's on average and greatest maneuverability, supposedly.
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>>159395341
>that explosion of schoolgirl Astolfo art after the new FGO trailer
Can't wait for the summer beach outfit.
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>>159395428
>Saber
>not the best class

fucking secondaries
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>>159395341

Truly a wonderful timeline.
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>>159395592
Rider is the best class because it has the best girls and boys in it, this is a fact
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>>159394766
The whole grail system was actually intentionally rigged in favor of the knight classes, as they were the ones that were supposed to be summoned by the three founding families. You can see this in all of them being the most powerful servants in pure combat, and them all having powerful magic resistance to counter Caster, the class which would otherwise be the most threatening to them. Meanwhile, Assassins always get a rank-down in Presence Concealment when they actually try to attack someone, which goes against their entire schtick, Riders being able to do fuck-all without their mounts most of the time, and being highly limited in close-quarters and tight spaces, and Berserkers killing their masters through excessive mana costs and friendly fire.
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i want this pillow
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>>159395341
>her
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>>159395723
Don't forget that the traditional system basically locks you into rolling some Hassan if you're getting Assassin
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>>159395537
>supposedly
Achilles alone makes it so. Broken piece of shit.
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>>159395807
>nobody ever uses assassin correctly anyways
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>>159395341
My penis can hardly contain itself in anticipation of the flood of swimsuit fanart.
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>>159395863
Ozy in Fragments is also casually broken, takes 2 NPs to take him down after his Master is dead
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When's the beach episode?
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>>159395977
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I remember being so enthralled by the idea of Apocrypha both before and after I finally took the plunge into the original Fate.
I just loved the idea of "heroic" spirits working together, rather than just against each other and held out for an anime before daring to peek at the novel.

Apparently this isn't going to be the smoothest ride, or they might even smooth out the rough points from the novel, but I'm pretty happy with what I've gotten so far (even after reading the manga and LN to where episode 1 ends)!

Keeping the opening on repeat is a good time too (those lyrics are some of the most perfect for a Fate OP ever). But do I hold off on reading Strange Fake until this is over?
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Rider Hercules would be very OP
With Nemean Lion's hide, he can't be damaged by ranged weapons and can call forth either Cretan Bull or Cerberus as his mount
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>>159384474
Which side is this guy on and what Servant?
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>>159381794
Me, I look forward to learning more about her than just through wiki entries
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>>159380927
Only the best.
Love her smile.
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dragon's huge dick
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https://twitter.com/FateApocryphaTV/status/882525506247184384
I'm guessing this is a rerun of the first episode?
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>>159396664
He's from a different story.
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>>159380562
impossible, both girls are semen demons
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>>159397065
>wiki
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what a cute
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>>159397837
Christ. There's plenty of Astolfo art, so you have no reason to post that abomination.
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>>159397903
kay?
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>>159397903
Astolfo is MC's main love interest
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>>159388363
>>159393040
>She also felt jealous of the Sieg and Astolfo relationship
yes
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>>159397746
I wanted to save the novel for when the show started airing, so all I had to look at was the TM wiki and FGO wiki.
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>>159387049
Nero
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>it's another feel depressed the whole day because Type-Moon no longer makes visual novels and Nasu only writes for a self-insert gacha mobage episode

How do you deal with this? And don't say play FGO, because I already do out of obligation and hate myself for it.
Still 3 days until next Apocrypha stream.
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>>159380374
Ok so I just started watching this. That guy said that the greater grail was stolen. So what did they steal the whole fucking mountain or something? How does this even work?
And why are they saying that the purpose of the grail war was to grant peoples wishes? Wasn't it to reach the root via heaven's feel? I thought the whole wish granting thing was just what they told the servants to convince them to fight
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>>159398939
I just play other VNs and don't get obsessed with one franchise, what's done is done.
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>>159399042
The Holy Grail does grant wishes when uncorrupted. The Tohsaka and other magi wanted to use that wish to reach the Root.
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>>159399217
That's what I'm trying to do, but I was already obsessed with Type-Moon before I decided it was a better idea to move on and stop being over-attached. Fucking hell.
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>>159398939
I don't even have the time to properly play FGO and I still enjoy the Fate series. Surely after all this time you know what you enjoy about it and what you don't, barring new content.
Senpai, it's well and fine to want to keep up with FGO for the events, plots points or even just new Servants who are introduced in it (and F/SF), but there's no need to be like this. If anything, you're better off wracking your brain writing your own Type-Moon work just for the enjoyment. Surely there would be something soothing about that.
That, or just take a look at other series. I started Fafner recently and am enjoying it. Besides, unless you can read Japanese you're waiting on the community to translate FGO's story so there's not that much of a need to stay up-to-date by-the-minute if what's keeping you playing is the plot rather than enjoying the game systems. Be more kind to yourself.
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Who's the best servant and wife, and why is it Altera?
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>>159399594
I do, and I know that what I enjoy about it is barely present in most of the new Fate entries. Yet I still feel compelled to keep up in hopes that they do a new project more like the old stuff.
Anyway, thanks for the kind words.
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>>159399719
Top ayylmao.
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>>159399719
maybe if she didn't use a fucking popsicle stick
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>>159398939
>Type-Moon no longer makes eroge
>Nasu only writes for a self-insert gacha mobage
So he's just writing different self-insert garbage.
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>>159399719
She definitely struck a chord with me since her reveal and the feeling only grew more positive as FGO went on and Extella came along (although they're different existences).
I don't know about being the absolute best, but she's certainly at the top and beneath none. I just think some others are just as good. Oh and she's also my first scale figure, or will be.
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>>159381368
>>159382394
>>159383526
>>159385987
>>159388071
I would ejaculate inside Jeanne and not take responsibility!
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>>159399756
>>159399756
May that hope serve you well. If nothing else, this franchise has a living, beating heart to it still, even if it's out of shape in a sense.
I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with Penthesilea, Heracles, Achilles and Hippolyta. More Servants with shared history is welcomed, for the most part.
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>>159400037
Nah, FGO's MC is 100% a self-insert with no background or development, which Shirou was definitely not. He's also written the non-eroge Mahoyo, and Realta Nua is not eroge either.
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>>159399719
I really have no fuckin idea why Nasu made one of the most barbaric people in history into an autist girl.
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>>159400231
>Nah, FGO's MC is 100% a self-insert with no background or development
More of one than Shiki and Shirou, but those two are still meant for self-inserting.
>He's also written the non-eroge Mahoyo, and Realta Nua is not eroge either.
That was why I changed "visual novels" to "eroge".
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>>159382703
This is not how I pictured Roland to look like in my head. Wew.
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>>159392641
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>>159400302
Don't expect historic accuracy from Fate.
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>>159400377
I'm perfectly fine with self-inserting if it's with an actual character. A camera that's only there to look into events and gains other characters' respect for no tangible reason is worthless to me.

>That was why I changed "visual novels" to "eroge".
Hm, so what point were you trying to make? Mahoyo, the latest of those, came out 5 years ago already.
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>>159400449
Petite cute
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>>159400377
Okay, where does this idea come from? Seriously, I'm asking, why do you think that they're for self-inserting?
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>>159380374
>future AOTS
There are people who seriously believe this?
From episode 1 alone I can tell this is gonna be forgettable action anime #25859.
I hope you guys and your enthusiasm for this series means it has some value beside waifus and penis swinging.
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>>159400589
>Not the first post from this IP.
Just hang yourself already, shitposter.
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>>159400687
First post was >>159400415
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>>159386932
I've also got the set of racing figures on pre-order. Should I stop yet?
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>>159401643
>>159386932
Forgot the picture like a stupid baka
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>>159400231
>He's also written the non-eroge Mahoyo, and Realta Nua is not eroge either.
Mahoyo was written long before. And if anything, Nasu was visibly lazy to change anything, with excuse that "it doesn't fit into story". Realta Nua was PS 2 port, so there was simply rating condition.
And besides that TM simply released nothing. So it not really that they abandoned eroge brand. They just focused on different platforms. Next real thing that can contain something is Tsukihime remake, and that still hasn't decided.
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Anyone have that webm of mordreds helmet doing the thing?
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>>159400377
I do not see how shirou at all could be for self-inserting, I think people who say this don't know what selfinsert is. But for shiki, while I like him, doesn't seem to have much going for him besides ''nicest guy you'll ever meet/twisted fucking psychpath.''
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>>159400494
Pretty cute
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>>159401682
Did you get the English versions of those Complete Material books? You'd be even more retarded.
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>>159402171
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What exactly are the black things Astolfo rides?
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>>159402583
It's me.
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>>159402529
Only the first two. Went to my first con and the money was burning a hole in my wallet.
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>>159402564
Fuck, mode red is cool.
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>>159400231
>self-insert

See this argument used all the time but it's never consistent.

So we have the weak "beta" main character that powers up throughout the story, it's also called character development. Many standard shounen series have this type of MC. People bashing it call it "self-insert" so the so-called "loser otakus" can relate to the character because the MC starts off as a beta loser and gains power and a harem.

Oh no, so let's have an overpowered (OP) "alpha" main character. He's strong from the start so unlike the beta loser main characters, he doesn't have to work his way up the ladder fighting stronger opponents. He's usually upper-middle tier in that he's stronger than most but there are still a few top dogs that could beat him. But yet again it's called self-insert so the so-called "loser otakus" can imagine themselves as a super strong all knowing being. Tatsuya from Mahouka and Rudeus from Mushoku Tensei for example.

So if the main character is weak, it's self-insert. If he's strong, it's also self-insert. If he's a loser, it's self-insert. If he's an alpha harem king, it's self-insert.

Is the point of a story not to immerse the reader? If the reader can "self-insert" then hasn't the writer done a good job such that the reader can relate to the character they've written?

Why is "self-insert" being used as an argument?
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>>159402972
>Only the first two.
>paying for missing pages
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i want one
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>>159400589
>forgettable action anime #25859.
This is the Fate franchise so sorry lad, you're quite wrong here.
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>>159402298
Every VN MC has some level of self-insertion.
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>>159398211
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>>159381418
Nice sideburns, loser
It's no wonder this fucker's wife cheated on him if he's got a haircut like that.
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>>159403513
It's not a matter of being alpha or beta, it's a matter of having internal thoughts (that are distinctive, rather than completely flavorless), a background of SOME kind and explicit development. If you want to let the player get into the role and leave everything ambiguous for that reason (which is what FGO seemingly tries to do), you should let them properly role-play and have an influence in how the player characters turns out.
Instead, you have illusion of choice that often doesn't change a single line of dialogue from other characters, you have no impact on the story, and even the team of servants you get to use is decided by gacha RNG.
In other words, the existence of FGO's blank protagonist instead of a real character serves no purpose besides convenience, in order to have every single Servant compatible with them in some way.
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>>159384392
The history textbooks of the Fate earth must be pretty damn amazing compared to ours.
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>Just like Jeanne, he was being pushed onward by Astolfo before he could open his mouth. Once they reached Celenike’s private room, Astolfo released the physical form of his armor, put his hands around Sieg, and pushed them both onto the bed. Sieg could feel the springs as the bed softly swallowed their weight – and instantly, his entire body was overtaken by exhaustion. All the while, Astolfo was lying next to him and chuckling.
What episode will this be in?
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>>159403918
You what? Roland's wife was a textbook pure waifu who collapsed and died on the spot when Charlemagne told her he was dead.
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>>159404088
Episode 13-14.
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>>159402564
Does her father even wear a helmet ?
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>>159389214
>Only watched Fate/Zero
Please end your life
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>>159394646
>What even is the point of Rider?
To be the magical bestest best friend you never had forever and ever.

When you summon a Rider, you don't summon a Servant, you summon someone who will understand you beyond any lover. They will be your other half even if they often grate on your nerves with their independence and personal idiosyncrasies.

They will fucking fight and die for you with all their heart, from Medusa to Iskandar to even Drake.
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SPOIL ME FAGS

1) The MC (dragon guy) fucks jean and astolfo?
2) The big donger meme is really just a meme or that was mentioned in the game?
3) Jean is gonna die in the series or better said, disappear like Saber did?
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>>159405062
1) No. Only Jeanne in Not!Avalon after the series ends
2) "big donger" the fuck is that?
3) Yes, but just like Saber she goes to a special place to wait for her love interest
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>>159402564
What the shit? Why is she magic Iron Man?
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>>159400449
>>159400933

>Mother of four
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Is he a strong master?
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>>159404194
I was wrong, I suck dicks. It was Giocondo.
https://www.geneseo.edu/orlando_furioso/canto-28
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>>159405206
Handcrafted by Morgan le Fay.
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>>159405163
And who's Jeanne love interest?

What pisses me off is the fact that doesn't matter how good a couple could be, in the end the servant will be back to the oblivion.
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>>159405302
>in the end the servant will be back to the oblivion.
Everyone will?
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>>159405062
Yes, yes, and yes (she meets Sieg here after though).
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>>159404630
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>>159405163
Their on the Underside of the World and Astolfo's Hippogryph can teleport there. He can pop in whenever he wants.
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>>159380374
Sieg as of Vol 3 has become a oblivious Harem MC of a romcom. He's oblivious to the fact that Jeanne and Laeticia has feelings for him,what happened in that picture is that after Sieg saw a mother and her child together he asked Jeanne if Servants could get pregnant, Jeanne said it's possible and misinterpreted it as Sieg wanting to impregnanting her.

>>159387908
>Is she dumb?
Literally, in Vol 3 after Sieg saw a mother and her child together he asked Jeanne if Servants could get pregnant, Jeanne said it's possible and misinterpreted it as Sieg wanting to impregnanting her.
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You might joke about this but it genuinely saddens me that most of the current Nip fanbase got into Type-Moon through a trashy cashgrab mobage with a self-insert, and most of them will only only stick to that. They deserve it for being normalfags and/or waifufags though, the sadder part is TM never doing another VN or attempting a real videogame ever again.
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>>159404630
Yeah, the Rhongomiant using one. I overall like that version of Seiba's design more than the original, mostly because she's actually capable of being imposing in that version.
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>>159405062
MC doesn't fuck anyone
He probably has a small dick just like Siegfried
JannuDie
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>>159402972
Can you take photos of the translated info pages?
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>>159405476
Inferior
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>>159405606
Joke about what? I agree but you probably got the wrong thread.
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>>159405376
Oh so that scene is after jeanne and Sieg dies right?

I don't want to see another good waifu dying, watching Saber getting btfo multiple times I'm a bit tired.
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>>159405707
Nah, mama Lion just needs less bullshit to do her job.
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>>159403630
The Japanese one have the ero scenes? What the fuck did I do goddamnit
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>>159405716
There's literally no downside to her death.
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>>159405606
Please obtain some self-awareness.
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>>159405578
Isnt Laeticia the one in love?
>But she couldn’t endure the thought of betraying someone who had believed in her with innocent trust. Even more so since he was the boy who the girl insider her, Laeticia, had feelings for.
I thought whenever she dropped spaghetti it was Laeticia surfacing
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>>159405062
1) Yeah, he had sex without a condom with Jeanne, Astolfo and Laeticia.
2) What the fuck are you talking about?
3) Yes
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>>159405709
>>159406028
It is a definitely a great way for them to expand the universe and use their formula of summoning historic figures as servants. As a fan I love it but realistically it's a cash grab.
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>>159404630
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When will they realize no one gives a shit about Fate outside of Zero/Stay Night?
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>>159405716
Sieg isn't dead, he's an immortal dragon pumping Astolfo full of mana forever.
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>>159406166
And then why are they amassing more money than ever?
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Holy fuck Jeanne needs to put down the fork and pick up her flag or whatever the fuck she uses and go for a jog. How the fuck can she be a saint, gluttony is a sin!
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>>159406084
I mean, sure. I wouldn't even mind it as a cashgrab + lore expansion if Nasu was still doing something else, but at this rate Tsukihime Remake will never come out. And even if it does they might never do other VNs or a real Fate RPG/fighting game. Gacha and musou shit forever, because it makes money. At least at that point there'll be nothing left for me to care about in this universe, assuming HF movies are out.

>>159406166
Japs now officially give more of a shit about the mobile game, and it makes them more cash while also being super cheap.
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>>159406084
>I'm superior because I started with TM's trashy eroge, rather than their trashy mobage
As someone who started with Tsukihime and has never played F/GO, you need to get over yourself.
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>>159406191
Pumping inside his tight butthole?

Also pumping Jeanne too? considering both ends there it seems.
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Tell me, why should I bother with a Fate that has no Illya in it?
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>>159406318
>has never played F/GO
Not him but you wouldn't be likening their old VNs to FGO if you had. There were fundamental changes, and not just because of the medium.
For one, Nasu didn't even write most of FGO, while he at least bothered with the entire project in the old works.
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>>159406431
Are we talking about real Illya, or knock-off slut Illya.
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>>159406431
You shouldn't, stay night and Zero are the only worthwhile Fates, and they both have the original, best Illya in them.
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>>159406511
>and Zero
Anon...
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>>159405672
I assume you're referring to these?
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>>159380927
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>>159406600
I wish mordred would put a shirt off. I mean, I like a good midriff as much as any other guy, but everything in moderation.
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>>159382304
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>>159380927
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Honest question here, could Mordred beat Artoria?
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>>159388608
Yes. Sieg is the worst thing that happened to Apoc
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>>159406713
Historically no.
In stats, no. Unless she was super gimped under Shirou, but even then it'd be tough.
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>>159406713
Their stats are similar, but Mode Red's sword is anti-Arthur. Unless it comes down to a beam fight Mo-san would probably win.
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>>159406750
So you're telling me that Mordred is weaker than Stay/Night Artoria?
Jesus, this pretty much tells the story about the whole Saber class.
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>>159406880
>sword is anti-Arthur

How does this work? Affinity vs Lions or vs Dragon-blood bullshit?
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>>159406908
What the fuck was Rin smoking when she said Saber was the strongest class?
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>>159391809
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>>159406950
Literally Anti-King Arthur.
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>>159407025
>implying Gudao wouldn't leap in twice as fast
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>>159406980
Isn't she the strongest Saber though?
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>>159406462
>Not him but you wouldn't be likening their old VNs to FGO if you had.
Just because I haven't built up a superiority complex around entering a franchise with a pair of eroge, doesn't mean I haven't been through them. While I might be able to excuse Tsukihime, you're retarded if you think Fate/Stay Night can't qualify as a "trashy cashgrab". Unless you have a whole different definition, swapping a mythological figure's gender so that your teenaged eroge protagonist (you) can fuck her is pretty trashy. Cashgrab should be pretty obvious given that it ended up being Shirou and Arturia instead of Ayaka and Arthur as originally planned.
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>>159406980
Saber is the class with the highest base parameters.
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>>159407109
>what is Berserker
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>>159407036
So Mordred's sword, whatever it's name is, is made specifically to kill Artoria?
How?
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>>159406726
>Yes. Sieg is the better thing that happened to Apoc
this
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>>159407135
That's after adding in Mad Enhancement, since the class was originally meant for weak Heroic Spirits.
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>>159407040
is this art for what i think it is?
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>>159407141
It's not made to kill her.

Mode Red just channeled her hatred into the sword so much she can shoot giant energy beams with it.

Seriously. Since she wasn't officially recognized as a successor, Clarent doesn't give her all its cool boosts. The shit she does with it is pretty much all her.
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>>159407141
Was Arondight made to kill dragons?
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>>159407255
>Mode Red
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>>159407255
So it's just a regular sword?
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>>159407107
As I said, if you don't know the slightest about GO, you can't really compare it to the rest.
Both Tsukihime and FSN had awfully forced eroge elements that sometimes worsened the story, but they didn't overshadow it overall or stop it from being quite solid. FGO is the opposite, the gacha mobage elements elements only damage the overall product at every opportunity, and even the couple of good chapters it has would've been far better told in any other medium. This is something even hardcore fans will agree on, the consistency of the quality in GO is trash, even when compared to FSN and Tsukihime's extremely bumpy rides.
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>>159407316
No, it's a totally awesome sword that's supposedly not inferior to Caliburn.

It's just that since Mordred stole it, the sword is weaker than it should be and does not have all its powers. Mordred makes up for the difference by being that good.
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>>159406559
Yes, you got it. Thank you in advance.
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>>159407040
yeah
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>>159407392
Ah, I see.
Mordred is without question the best girl then.
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>>159406559
"A feminine Aoko"?
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>>159407292
Blame google translate, the nickname stuck.
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>>159407392
>Shirou can technically use Clarent better than Mordred
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>>159407456
Is this true?
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>>159407059
Gudao would like a threesome?
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Someone needs to stop this pink-haired, homewrecking slut.
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>>159407519
He's not a king, so no. Mo-san make the sword good by being really angry, having dragon blood, and having prana burst.
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>>159407537
>pink-haired
Jeanne has blond hair. anon.
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>>159407537
>Sieg and Astolfo
pure love
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>>159406412
i'd ride him
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Let's settle it once and for all. Stay Night(+Hollow Ataraxia) side battles the Tsukihime (+Melty Blood) side, who wins?
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>>159407537
Just bro stuff here
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Not enough pics of best girl Jeanne.
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>>159408005
Tsuki for Archetype:Earth alone. And Aoko I guess, though we don't really know her upper limit.
However, FSN has a higher average power level.
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>>159395723
>Riders being able to do fuck-all without their mounts most of the time, and being highly limited in close-quarters and tight spaces,

The very first Rider proves that wrong. It's mostly just Iskander and Astolfo who are weak as hell when not on their mounts.
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>>159408066
I think you mean chubby girl Jeanne
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>>159380374
What other Fate are anime?
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>>159407395
Yeah there's way too many of these to do, at least two pages of text for each character with a sprite in the game. Sorry, not gonna do all that. Here, have Best Servant's page as a consolation prize
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>>159408143
Fate/stay night, Fate/stay night UBW and Fate/zero
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>>159408007
Yeah, okay Astolfo. "Bro stuff".
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>>159408086
Astolfo isn't useless at all without Hippogryph. He has a lance that makes Servants legs disappear, a book that can cancel any magecraft, and a anti-army trumpet.
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Light novel is full of fujo bait (SiegxAstolfo) by all sides.
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>>159408253
and? you make it sound like a bad thing
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>>159408244
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>>159408220
>maybe something will happen tomorrow
dear me astolfo.
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>>159408253
Does it count as fujobait if the author forgot it was a dude?
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>>159408244
I was not aware of this. That pic is so much funnier knowing it's official.
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>>159408220
>At this point Jeanne still didn't know Astolfo was a boy
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>>159406559
>I seriously hope you Magi don't do this.jpg
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>>159406980
The class itself is in theory the strongest, and their NPs tend to be pretty crazy. Also remember in UBW Seiba could get pretty crazy when she didn't have a half-baked master.
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>>159408220
>shaft tilt
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>>159407537
>>159408220
Why are there all these SOL romcom shenanigans going on during the war?
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Was the first episode really that bad, I thought it was hype as fuck
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>>159408640
Sieg still has to sleep.
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>>159408353
>homo bait
A-1 is fujobait king
KyoAni is yuribait king
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>>159408640
Because Astolfo loves to fuck around and mess with people.
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>>159408607
Someone's shaft is going to be tilted into somewhere.
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>>159408664
No, it was pretty good and definitely above expectations.
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>>159408664
Beginning was great, ending was great, and the middle was good enough for what was mostly exposition.
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>>159408664
We're not at the bad part yet.
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So I have a few questions.
Is this supossed to be canon? If so, it is set after the original Visual Novel war?
Also what is pic related supossed to be, Iron Man Saber?
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>>159408979
>another question about shit that's explained in the first episode
Someone please explain to me how retards like this exist. Are they just illiterate and can't read subs?
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>>159408979
They said in the episode the greater grail got stolen from fuyuki 60 years ago and that that's Mordred, you ponce
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>>159406713
Mordred is literally Artoria without Avalon. So as long as Artoria doesn't have Avalon, they're about equal in strength.
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>>159408979
Apocrypha takes place in an alternate universe where F/Z and F/SN never happened
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>>159409520
>muh alternate universes
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>>159409576
Welcome to Fate spinoffs.

If you want a story set after the original visual novel war, go read Fate/Strange Fake
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Is that a fucking Star Wars droid
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>>159409520
>alternate universe
What a bummer
>>159409242
I thought that it maybe was set in the future after the visual novel war.
But then I remembered that Illya destroyed the grail so whatever, I'm too dumb for this franchise
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Isn't Lancer kinda a shit class for Karna? The Shakti spear is literally a part of his body anyway so he got cheated out of his NPs. As Archer, he would have access to the Vijaya bow which is even stronger than Gandiva, and as Caster he can probably use even more powerful nukes like Nagaastra and Bhargavastra.
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>>159409691
N-no it isn't.
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>>159409762
His best class would be Berserker.
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If Sieg is so bad why can't Kairi just became the MC or maybe Flat? /a/ loves Flat for some reason.
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>>159409762
Nasu likes sticking him in Lancer, sometimes Launcher.
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What episode will have the Astolfo suffering right before Sieg becomes her master?
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>>159410373
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>>159410373
Because the story wasn't written that way.
Also Flat isn't even relevant here, the Masters are already decided.
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>>159410443
3 or 4
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>>159410443
>her

There's a surprise between those thighs.
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sieg haters are AnimeSukifags
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>>159410542
>him
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>>159410373
People like Sieg because he gets to fuck Astolfo and Jeanne in the end.
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>>159410754
>>159410754
>>159410754
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>>159409645
Fate hollow ataraxia is the way to go.
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>>159410462
>>159410679
>>159410683
Samefag.
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>>159405052
How does this work out at all with the Pirate Sluts and Astolfo or Ozzy himself?
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>>159409762
Is Caster Karna one of the only few direct combat, blaster-y casters in theory?
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>>159410901
Ozymandias is a bro in FGO.
>FGO
Yes, yes, I know. He's a bitch to his Master in Fragments because he thought his beloved waifu's grave had been robbed for the catalyst.
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>>159409691
roger roger
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