Is this the biggest asspull in modern anime history?
Kneel before your god.
F is best Frieza theme, prove me wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8EkyEZkZao
>>159026991
>it's against my headcanon so it's an asspull
Holy shit you are pathetic, toeishill phoneposter
>>159026991
That's not even an asspull but this on the other hand is
Fuck 18!
>Dad, leave Jiren to m-
>>159026991
Yes.
Except it wasn't in the anime it was in the manga.
But otherwise yes.
Also, threadly reminderreading books is for nerds and thus the manga has no place in chadonball super threads
>>159027060
>>159027068
ya upset ya lost there toyo?
Being a vegetafag is suffering
O MY ABILITY TO MERGE WITH THE UNIVERSE OUT OF NOWHERE DESPITE MY BODY BEING DESTROYED
>>159027071
No! 18 is for cuddles!
>>159027060
>>159027068
>>159027113
These threads seriously should make separate manga threads.
Mangafags get way too riled way too fast and resort to spamming the fuck out of threads.
>>159027060
O MY EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE NOT SSB TRANSFORMATION, WHICH FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T ACTIVATE DURING THE ENTIRE YEAR I SPENT FIGHTING BLACK WHERE HUMANITY WAS BROUGHT TO IT'S KNEES YET AGAIN OR WHEN MY MOTHER AND WAIFU(SEEMINGLY) DIED
>>159026991
>ability exclusive to immortals
>takes decades to master
>kid goku has barely seen it
>>159027125
She wants it hard, anon
>>159027071
No.
They will revive me any second now.
Jiren could atleast win against Sidra, that I am sure of.
Is this the best team in terms of character design?
>>159027060
>>159027068
>>159027113
>>159027153
>I am literally so fucking angry that not enough people discuss the manga I will post the exact same images with the exact same posts every single thread
Why?
>>159027158
That was an asspull too
>>159027163
You are gonna fuck the android with a pussy and you are going to like it
>>159027113
Just goes to show that the power of the Super Dragonballs can't be overcome unless you're on a higher plane of power like Zeno.
>>159027158
>there are people who defend this but shit on dbs powerscalings
>>159027153
he trained with the best
Reminder that Universal Zamasu was able to infiltrate the Time Nest.
This is a #18 thread now
>>159026991
I can't tell what is the bigger asspull:
> Goku pulling HAKAI out of his asshole
> Goku achieving a form that puts him in level with a Fusion
I'd pick the former if maybe the Fusion didn't include a SS Rose Black, which gave SSB Vegeta trouble as a SS1...
>>159027158
>if I post another asspull that means it's not an asspull
Goku learning KHH was blatantly an asspull you moron. That was the entire point of the scene. It was an asspull to get Goku over as a prodigy.
>"He trained under Roshi, so automatically pulling Kamehameha out of his ass makes sense!"
>"He trained under Kaio-sama, so automatically pulling Kaio-ken and Genki Dama out of his ass makes sense!"
>"He trained on Planet Yardat, so automatically pulling Instant Transmission out of his ass makes sense!"
This is literally Goku's gimmick.
>"He trained under Roshi, so automatically pulling Kamehameha out of his ass makes sense!"
>"He trained under Kaio-sama, so automatically pulling Kaio-ken and Genki Dama out of his ass makes sense!"
>"He trained on Planet Yardat, so automatically pulling Instant Transmission out of his ass makes sense!"
This is literally Goku's gimmick.
>>159027267
Fuck off you stupid nigger
Reminder that Master Roshi raped a cat
>not a Kame Sennin
>learns Kame Hame-Ha
>not a Kaio
>learns Kaio-Ken
>not a Hakaishin
>learns Hakai
REEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING GOKU YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO MY HEADCANON IT'S WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO
>>159027212
>>159027246
Or maybe Goku is a very talented martial arts genius? Maybe that's why they keep saying it throughout the series...
hmmm
>>159027307
>Muh 17!
>>159027071
I would if she wasn't taken. Even if I was fine with NTR/cucking/whatever, Krillin is a fucking multiverse-level martial artist. I ain't fucking with that.
All the best DB girls are taken, MIA, or currently babies.
>>159027300
>>159027327
>Toyocuck having a meltdown posting all his stored pastas
kek
e
k
>>159026991
Only if your brain doesn't work correctly.
>>159027068
Can't wait to see how Toei fuck up this arc desu.
Someone got fired over this shitty writing.
>>159027363
Just wish for another one with the Dragon Balls.
>>159027331
This.
Whenever it's an episode day these threads are full of fun and joy discussing the episode in hand.
On manga leak day however, these threads are full of nothing but vitriol from Toyofags trying to defend everything he does whether it makes sense or not.
>>159027286
refer to
>>159027354
>>159027060
>>159027068
> Mastered SSB isn't an asspull!
> Toyo is perfect and /our guy/!
Okay show me where Goku was specifically training to master his SSB form.
At least in the Cell Saga, we SEE Goku/Gohan's efforts to master their SS1 form. We see nothing of that sort for SSB Goku.
How can anyone take mangafags seriously when they can't even take criticism?
Every single time they defend obvious bullshit like this, just because it's in the manga. Where are the animefags saying that SS Rage wasn't an asspull?
>>159027158
I bet doing a kamehameha makes his palms tingle
Reminder
Goten,Trunks and Gotenks
Hybrid Saiyans which are stated to be stronger than regular Saiyans
Achieved Super Saiyan by themselves
Trained in the RoTaS
Saw Goku transform into SS3 against Buu
Motivated by the deaths of Vegeta(Trunks' father) Gohan (Goten's brother) Chi Chi(Goten's mother)
Fusion
Caulifla
Normal Saiyan
Didn't know about Super Saiyan until Cabba told her
Trained in some rocky wasteland
Just became Super Saiyan doesn't even know about SS2 and the later stages
Motivated by eh
Is /a/ ready for his new transformation/power upgrade?
Baldlet gonna rival Jiren by tournaments end.
>>159027286
It was a gag. For funnies. Because Dragon Ball at that time was predominantly a gag manga.
>>159027423
Shrenron can't even un-cyborg her body, you think he can make a new one?
>>159027363
>or currently babies.
Bra and Pan are garbage, just like your shitty taste.
>>159027354
No it's an asspull.
>>159027474
Don't try and argue with Toyocucks bro. They're stupid and just lash out when you present them with logic and story-constructs.
>>159027312
>Implying Yamcha hasn't
>>159027113
NINGEN NINGEN
>>159027474
>Okay show me where Goku was specifically training to master his SSB form.
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/158666922/#158668361
>>159027487
>Is /a/ ready for his new transformation/power upgrade?
Yes.
>Baldlet gonna rival Jiren by tournaments end.
No.
>>159027506
They're total cuties you ningen trash.
>>159027267
Pure!
>>159027483
Cuntifla only exists to be Kale's Krillin, nothing more.
>>159027488
>can't even un-cyborg her body
Manga Shenron says he can't do that because she is more powerful than him, so he would need consent for her to do that. Hence why he could remove the bomb.
Why wouldn't he be able to create another one?
>>159027354
What happened to the power pole and the nimbus?
>>159027432
Nope. This shitty war comes from both sides. When we got the first few leaks of the latest chapter, the thread was going just fine until shitposters showed up and ruined it for everyone again.
>>159027382
>Pedros despair over his OC-tier character
>>159027547
Can Shenron even create life? Restoring prematurely ended lives is different.
>>159027158
>>159027300
>>159027327
>bringing up goku learning kamehameha
You do realize back then it was a gag comic?
Asspull or not doesn't apply.
Toyocucks confirmed superbabbies.
Why can't Toei write for shit?
>>159027553
power pole got put back where it came from, as the pillar connecting kami's lookout to korin tower
original nimbus got destroyed in the king piollo saga. goku's second nimbus is still around, he called for it during the spooky woods quest the other month
>>159027600
OH SHIT TOYOKEKS BTFO
B
O
Y
Akira Toriyama:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
>>159027560
More like everything was going fine until it was revealed that Goku pulled a meta changing technique out of his asshole
>Whis stated Goku has the potential to become a God of destruction
>Goku learns a God of destruction technique
>IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
Desperate Toei shills
>>159027488
krillin just asked if shenron can make her human again. shenron said no because she never actually stopped being human, she just has nanomachines in her cells
>>159027590
Well, Bulma did indicate that she would wish for a boyfriend in classic and I don't think anyone said it was impossible. I guess Shenron can create new life, but it would have to be under the current Kami's limits.
>>159027609
>>159027153
O MY EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE SSB TRANSFORMATION, WHICH FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T ACTIVATE DURING THE ENTIRE BATTLE WITH BLACK, ZAMASU, AND FOR THE MOST OF PART OF MERGED ZAMASU. A TRANSFORMATION THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO TRAIN ON-SCREEN FOR. A TRANSFORMATION THAT USE AFTER RESORTING TO FUSION DESPITE MY CHARACTERIZATION OF WANTING TO FIGHT FOR MYSELF.
I don't even care what you niggas say. I can't even read the manga, it's such a fucking enormous step down from Z.
The show is too but at least it's weekly and more memey
>>159027506
He has good taste, faggot.
>>159027673
I think he would have just scooped up a guy and manipulated him into dating Bulma.
praise him
>This mentally retarded thing joins your team
Are you saved or screwed?
(Remember she is almost as dumb as Goku is.)
>>159027647
Yeah, but it's still not an excuse to turn the thread into complete fucking cancer. I didn't like when that happened with the spirit bomb sword episode either.
>>159027687
>O MY EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE SSB TRANSFORMATION,
SSB isn't exclusive to Goku retard.
>>159027573
>Best dad
>Best granddad
>Best farmer
>Best butler
>Best yard care service man
Is there anything he can't do besides win a tournament?
>>159027600
>You do realize back then it was a gag comic?
lol if DB is "just a gag comic" then what does that make Super?
can you and your schizophrenic alter egos kindly compile all your autism and pasta into a single 3000x3000 jpg so you stop wasting the image limit for the rest of us with your threadly spam
thanks
>>159027757
a slightly taller gag comic
Goku>>>>>>>>>SSB tier Trunks and SSB Vegeta with one year of training over Goku
>>159027300
For every single one of those, we see or get a straightforward explicit explanation of why Goku learned those techniques
Not even remotely the same retard
>>159027736
She beats Jiren without even breaking a sweat, but she broke the Void so everyone's disqualified.
Why didn't Goku use Kaioken when Black taunted him with the death of Goten and Chi Chi?
>>159027728
Lol. Then again, Shenron doesn't do ''Monkey Paw'' wishes, so I don't think that would happen. For example: Piccolo wishing eternal youth didn't become a kid and he warned about Frieza's resurrection having its drawbacks due to him being diced alive. It would take an idiot of another level to somehow make a wish like that. Like Pilaf.
>burgers/leafs wakes up
>thread immediately goes to shit
Fucking savages
>>159027794
Yes because Goku's taller than either of them.
Manlets BTFO
>>159027823
based Toei refraining from using Kaioken too much
keepin it special
>>159027731
Revere his godly perfection
>>159027806
>we see or get a straightforward explicit explanation
You mean like Goku being a God of destruction candidate retard?
>>159027845
true gods don't get deleted from existence
>>159027530
> this (stake pasta) response again
And yet, NOTHING there shows Goku trying to master SSB
>>159027830
>burgers/leafs wakes up
It's fucking noon.
>>159027617
Oh silly me, I forgot about the woods filler.
>>159027881
noon is when NEETS wake up, because they don't go to sleep until 4AM
>>159027731
CHAMPA WANT MILKIE
>>159027835
Huh I guess Goku didn't care about the deaths of Goten and Chi Chi then.
Guise, calm down, it'sjusta brazzilian cartoon.
>>159027881
Shut-ins usually wake up during the noon.
>>159027922
reminder goku had an emotional reaction in the anime but not in the manga
JUSTotaro
>>159027899
we also saw the power pole when dende moved the lookout closer to #17's island.
>>159027835
>based Toei refraining from using Kaioken too much
>keepin it special
Too bad they can't do the same for SSB.
>Leave Jiren to me, tousan
>>159026991
another baby just read its first manga I see
>>159027852
You mean your headcanon you massive retarded nigger?
>>159027354
best movie
>>159027826
Shenron doesn't have a moral component like Genie from Aladdin, he'll do whatever you asked for as long as it's within his power.
Another point, he couldn't even kill Saiyan saga Vegeta or Nappa, I doubt he could handle recreating 18 even if he was stronger under Dende.
Honest question here.
What was the biggest asspull when comparing eachother with the original and Z in mind?
>Goku who copied techniques since he was little is almost a God and uses Hakai but very poorly
>Trunks taps into the God ki and gets a big chunk of life energy from a minority of living beings which turns into a Genkidama that gets absorbed into his broken dword by accident
This is quite obvious but still. Which one is it?
>>159027748
"Mastered" SSB, not SSB
Unless Vegeta gets it too, and fucks everything over with TWO Fusion God-tier fighters.
So I'd hope it's exclusive like SSB Kaioken
Note is pure!
>>159027654
>Caulifla has the potential to become a Super Saiyan
>She becomes one
>IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
Desperate toyocucks
>>159027942
Whis can magically come up with training that is different but just as efficient as the GoD training just because Goku refused to be GoD!
Fucking Toyo asspulls man!
Reminder SSB is bullshit!!!
Where was the foreshadowing??!?!!?
>B-bbut Goku and Vegeta were training with Whis!!!
Fuck off where did it show them training SSB with Whis? Nowhere!! BUllshit!! asspull!!
>They LEARNED IT OFF-SCREEN!
wew lad
>>159028008
The former. Easily.
Devalues an entire cast of characters.
>>159028008
This one.
>>159027982
This. Shenron's wishes have its uses, but he can't interfere with beings with higher power. Imortality and revival may be possible, but it probably can't do something like create powerful beings stronger than his creator.
>>159027792
okay, then Goku will use Whis abilities in the ToP next week and you should all stop bitching about it
>>159028008
What if neither of them are asspulls?
>>159028019
>"Mastered" SSB, not SSB
That's still SSB retard.
>there is literally a toyo and toei faction war every thread
>almost no one points out that caulifla tingling into ssj, trunks spirit sword, and Goku's Hakai were all badly written to different degrees
>>159028008
This one
>>159027852
>Goku being a God of destruction candidate
> Goku EVER accepting to become a GoD
> Whis EVER training God to become a GoD
Sorry no one's buying your headcanon, Toyocuck
Imagine being such a Toeishill that you defend Super
>>159028030
We're not talking about Heroes. But I don't understand why her tail didn't change color.
>>159028008
>Honest question here.
you fucking liar. nothing you say or do is done in good faith. everyone that knows how to use the archives can see you posting crap on both sides of this three-person pants shitting competition
>>159028008
Goku is a God of Destruction candidate so him using Hakai is fine, while training with Beerus and Whis he had many opportunities to see it and he has always had a exceptional ability to take on people's move, also it's never stated Hakai is limited only to GoD that's a headcanon people are trying to push.
Future Trunks has never even seen the Genki Dama yet he somehow unknowingly creates and he does without the consent of the Earthling something was needed for the regular Genki Dama, somehow Ki of a nearly wiped out Earth is able to defeat a being that tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto.
Remender that SSG Goku is Universe tier while holding back.
These are two are in no way comparable, sorry.
>>159026991
>better art
>story makes sense for Dragonball standards
>Goku isn't a complete retard in this one
>its asspulls are at least somewhat decent compared to muh spirit sword tier garbage
enjoy the anime if you want but if you seriously start comparing it to the manga you just have to be retarded, there is literally no other option
>>159028090
Fuck off nobody wants you here you stupid tripcuck
>>159028008
Former. It isn't mentioned Trunks has god ki and the whole world was cheering for him. It may have been an asspull, but far less of Goku hakai
>>159027927
BRAZILIAN DUB CONFIRMED
NO MORE DUBS ARE NEEDED SINCE THE TOP 3 ONES ARE LIVEthere is no question lol
>>159028061
Oh yes. This was so stupid.
>>159028083
Not the point, you desperate retard
>>159028090
>Goku's Hakai were all badly written to different degrees
See >>159028117
>>159028130
>Brazilians will open with 4 episodes at once and will have 6 episodes per week of Super dubbed.
Damn. I forgot it was really popular in latin america
>>159028061
What?
>>159026991
>anime history
>posts manga
?!
>>159028123
>>better art
That's it
Everything else WAS true, until Toyo's mess of a Trunks arc
>>159028174
Toei shills are retards.
>>159028123
Fucking this, the anime is shit.
>>159027704
Frogcucks get out
*blocks your path*
Best versions of each DBS arc:
- BoG: Movie
- RoF: Movie
- Champa arc: Manga
- Trunks arc: Anime
>>159026991
It didn't do shit, so no. It is still retarded though.
>>159028232
*Teleports behind you*
even /cgl/ has better dragonball threads than /a/ during the burger hours
>>159028152
It was still badly written as that we were never once told it could be "learned" nor were we ever told beerus/whis was trying to teach the move.
Vegeta seemed just as shocked as trunks that Goku used it. This doesn't look like the face of someone that had been exposed to the learning of Hakai. He would have been more angry that goku used it before him not shocked that it was possible.
But for all the reasons you stated it's still more tolerable than most things toei does.
>>159028239
Best versions of each DBS arc:
- BoG: Movie
- RoF: Movie
- Champa arc: Manga
- Trunks arc: Manga
ftfy
>>159028181
That's the newest right? God we need more of this
>>159028181
Maybe if Vegeta had just asked Goku how to become Super Saiyan, he could have gotten it much quicker too.
>>159028239
>Champa arc: Manga
Except for Piccolo vs Frost, and Goku vs Hit. But for the most part, the manga Champa arc is better.
Everything else though 100%
>>159028239
>- RoF: Movie
there's a fan edit that combines scenes from the movie and anime that's pretty good
forgot the name of the guy who did it though
>>159028164
Sweet.
>>159028239
If anime Black was in the manga then the manga Trunks arc would take the prize.
>>159028239
>Best versions of each DBS arc:
>- BoG: Manga
>- RoF: Volume F
>- Champa arc: Manga
>- Trunks arc: Manga
>>159028267
>toeicunts have literally nothing to add to the conversation, ignore all laid down facts and just shitpost like always
nothing new here I see
>>159028291
>and Goku vs Hit.
This fight was shit in the anime desu really overrated.
>>159028232
>I dare you to leave right now or else I'll teleport behind you!
>*closes eyes*
>nothing personnel kid
>>159028239
BoG anime had better fight choreography for the most part, but the movie had a better overall story outline.
>>159027639
>Family hakai
>>159028261
Kill yourself tripfag
>GTfags disappear
>So Superfags need to fight each other now
DBfags are the biggest (and funniest) cancer
>>159028347
come do it yourself. Just be warned I am a black belt in Krav Maga
>>159028261
I'm just playing Devils advocate here but were we ever told that the Kamehameha wave could be learned?
>people ranking the Future Trunks arc when one version hasn't finished yet
wew
>>159028239
Best versions of each DBS arc:
>- BoG: Movie
>- RoF: Movie
>- Champa arc: Manga (sans Goku vs Hit)
>- Trunks arc: Xenoverse
Fixed
>>159028008
I think the biggest asspull is that Goku can go up against a potara fused character.
Atleast in the anime it was only briefly, Goku had to pull out the Kaioken and had to break his body, just to enrage Zamasu further which resulted in him powering up even more.
Don't get me wrong, I think the anime version of that was also bullshit but not on the same level as the manga.
>>159028350
>L
>/a/ is such a shithole now people use youtube memes
What is happening
>>159028239
I prefer the Trunks arc from the manga. But I agree about the other arcs
This is your team captain for tonight.
>>159028350
>>toyocuck this mad he lost
the delusion is kicking in hard I see
>>159028404
DBS threads are full of crossboarders/normalfags.
>>159028361
It0s got nothing to do with GT, it's the same rampant shitposting in threads for other series too. Retards forcing Xfag vs Yfag and replying to themselves until someone takes the bait. When it stops working they just swap the terms for something new.
>>159028395
>>- Trunks arc: Xenoverse
That looks beautiful.
>>159028264
>>159028316
This desu
That arc in the anime was shit.
>oops I forgot the Senzu Beans
>oops I forgot the Urn in the time machine
>oops I forgot the Seal at Kame house
>It's another 'People discussing which version of a shit arc about Gokusteel the hedgeheg is less shitty' episode
welp
>>159028371
>Black Belt
Bitch, please. We have Memes
>>159028404
I just saw this in the thread about to be bumped off and then in here, mind enlightening me on whatever this "L" faggotry is supposed to mean?
>>159026991
Left or Right?
>>159028451
It could have looked just as good in the anime if Toei had died years ago and let good studios have their properties.
One Piece and Dragon Ball deserve better.
>>159028395
>>- Trunks arc: Xenoverse
It's sad that this is true. I guess it makes sense with how cheap anime is getting, even including 3D models. An art form dedicated to 3D models would obviously be superior.
>>159027835
>Goku
>5'9
>not a manlet
He's shorter than Yamcha, who is about 6 feet.
>>159027531
>No.
He isn't gonna rival Jiren, he is going to be 1 level above Jiren.
>>159027639
this fucking slant eye
remember yamcha! reeeee
>>159028496
Right
Fun asspull confined in the arc >>>> Ridiculous asspull that breaks Goku
>>159028496
Right because it isn't an asspull. See >>159028117
>>159028486
An adolescent term for loss very common in the black community.
Example: "Hey dude, nice game but too bad you took the L this time."
>>159028486
Seriously, I've only ever seen this shit being used in DB threads. It's probably some social network garbage
>>159028395
> "GT, give me your energy!"
>>159027474
He didn't mastered the form yet you illiterate toeishill
>>159028496
huh I don't remember that left image to be in the anime, didn't Trunks look more like this?
>>159028117
>Remender that SSG Goku is Universe tier while holding back.
How strong were the Future Earthlings?
>>159028486
I don't know and I don't care but I've seen that 'Here take this L xDDD' shit in youtube like a million times
>>159028552
> Goku a GoD "candidate"
Sure bud
>>159028595
Looks like it's from a trading card.
>>159028232
Remember when people called Jiren a manlet because he was shorter than Berserker Kale? He's at least 6'5.
>>159028595
Toei shills use Dokkan artwork because the anime artworks sucks
>>159027687
>toeishills don't know what the fuck are they talking about again
How surprising
>>159028486
It's niggerspeak and means this.
>>159028645
>>159028630
that's embarrassing as fuck though
>>159028622
Dont manga fans hate GT more?
>>159028622
>Understands Toei's faults, accepts them, nothing can be perfect
>But 'Toyocucks' are the ones who like GT
???
B-but...
>>159028622
The anime or the manga?
>>159028595
There is no Dokkan Manga!DBS content
At least that I've seen. But here's SS Rage Trunks + Sword of Hope from the anime since you care so much
>>159028688
It's a meme bait
>>159028678
Toei shills in a nutshell.
>>159028496
Left was hype
Right was what the fuck
>>159028713
thanks, it looks just as horrible as I remember it
>>159028496
Even 2chan hated left.
>>159027083
>>159028496
Left > Right
Left would've been perfect if they explained it better, like Xenoverse 2 did
>>159028572
Oh, so it's something used by stupid teenagers. Why am I not surprised?
>>159028496
I don't read the manga and I can't get dokkan battle to work to my phone so I guess I pick the white border in between them
>toeishills don't realize Goku was literally the last one getting a perfected SSGSS, being Vegeta the first one
>they also keep calling it "mastered SSB" when his way to perfect SSGSS is the only one which is still unmastered
Embarrassing
>>159028817
patrician taste
>>159028755
>left was hype
I hope for humanity that you're not older than 12
>h-hey guys this non-canon video game made the anime ending less shitty!!!
You guys are hilarious.
>>159028787
2Chan most definitely hated right as well
>>159027202
>Thanos
>Morrigan
>3 Idols
>The villain from Viewtiful Joe
>orange Frieza with ears
>a dude from that teleporting race
>the lion Digimon
>the chicken guy villain from Toy Story 2
No
>>159028787
They didn't though. They just hated the fusion retcon.
>>159028755
>Left was hype
kek
>XV2
That's still dumb as fuck. How did Black gain the ability to slice open a hole in time? How did everyone suddenly know to give energy? How did Trunks suddenly learn the ability
You fucking Toeishills are so pathetic that you're using a goddamn videogame to justify your bullshit anime.
>>159028713
looks fuckin dope
>>159028867
Pretty sure I remember them shitting on "the boy wonder Trunks"
>>159028886
>How did Black gain the ability to slice open a hole in time?
Same way he made that dark void and summoned the clones in the anime, he has no idea.
>>159028834
I'm not shitting on him for preferring something because it's "hype", but since this is a Super thread it wouldn't be shocking if he is around that age.
>>159028886
Time ring. Fuck you.
>>159028886
>How did everyone suddenly know to give energy?
T-they're psychic?
Manga:
> Hit: nerfed
> Merged Zamasu: nerfed
Is Jiren safe from Toyo's nerfgun?
>>159028961
More like because this shit happens every few years in Dragon Ball.
>>159028496
Right, it isn't an asspull and it isn't a rip off the Majin arc ending and the Shadow Dragon arc ending.
>>159028886
>How did Black gain the ability to slice open a hole in time?
his time ring
>How did everyone suddenly know to give energy?
Trunks asked
>How did Trunks suddenly learn the ability
he accidentally performed the first step of spirit bomb while giving a speech about how ningen survive by helping one another, and figured the rest out as he went along
>>159028802
No, the worst thing about Toei version is unchanged in XV2 version, the fact that they pretend Zamasu is defeated by Trunks.
The scrip is characters tries to defeat Zamasu, but everything get worse, he becomes stronger and "infinite" and Zeno saves the day. The manga is portraying this right by making the characters having a bad time against Zamasu and being totally destroyed by him, anime just made Trunks cut Zamasu, and pretended it was a happy end with him saving the future and then the next episode said "whoops no I forgot Zamasu is still alive he won just call Zeno because you lost guys xD but it was epic when you though he was killed by the sword of friendship right?"
I love seing anime fags and manga fags fighting over Dragon Ball, when DB is just a shit series on any medium.
People that argue over which one is better are insecure. Just enjoy either or both, it doesn't really matter.
>>159028972
>Manga:
> Hit: nerfed
> Merged Zamasu: nerfed
> Jiren: probably nerfed
> Mastered SSB Goku + Hakai: broken
Dammit Toyo
>>159028909
They just joked about it, which is different from ripping one's own anus out of rage like it happened here on /a/.
>>159028972
>it's another "toeishills ignores what words means" episode
Here we go again...
>>159028296
This?
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33259
>>159029040
Will Goku be allowed to Hakai in the tournament? It's technically different from killing.
Although I doubt he'd use it on anyone that's not evil.
>yfw it's not grilled cheese
>>159027213
She's a Cyborg.
What did they mean by this?
>>159029128
Cute muscular shotas in dresses.
It's okay when Toyo does it
>>159029021
I wish we had more anons like you
>>159029153
>>159029100
We need more body horror.
>>159029214
>>159029248
lets not. don't want biobroly to come back
>>159029222
Why would FTrunks have a Star High shirt?
>>159029274
He's visiting on vacation and picked up some new threads.
>>159029274
gohan lent him a change of clothes
>>159028972
>nerfed
Toyo didn't nerf anyone. Toriyama write the outlines and Toei/Toyo take in their own direction.
We only see Toei's version first, and most of the time they chose to give characters spontaneous power ups out of nowhere whenever they start to lose.
Goku goes rage mode on Black after he taunted him with the death of Goten and Chi Chi. Black suddenly powers up.
Goku uses Kaiokenx10 to break Hit's timeskip. Hit suddenly "improve" negating what Goku just did.
Pic related
They're more like constantly moving goal posts then characters. This leads to them being overpowered as fuck which makes their eventually defeat underwhelming because Toei is forced to come up with something more bullshit to counter it see Genki dama Trunks or nerf them see the Goku vs Hit rematch.
>>159029214
>>159029250
>>159029304
>debunked shitposting again
>Goku turns down the position of Kami, the actual GOD at the time
>Somehow i'm supposed to believe he'd willingly become a GoD candidate and learn instakill moves when all he ever wants is good fights
Did Toyopedros start dragon ball at DBZ?
>>159026991
I mean kinda, except it didn't even work so who cares?
Wait, so if regular Zumastsu is immortal, does that make Fused Zumastsu strongly regenerative due to his partial mortality?
>>159029274
He must have borrowed it from Gohan. He's also wearing Vegeta's BADMAN shirt
>>159029304
>>159029311
> debunked
Sure bud
>>159027654
Not only that we've seen Goku copy moves without being taught.
>>159029338
He was only "half-immortal". Or something.
His Black half started to break down.
>>159029305
Hit wasn't nerfed in the rematch.
It's stated he became even stronger after the tournament ended.
>>159029348
>Young trunks
>Blue hair
>>159029250
>comparing a sneak attack to an asspull power up
Why are Toei shills so desperate? Why didn't Trunks powerup during the year he was constantly fighting Black or when his mother and waifu(appeared to) died?
>>159029348
>Nice day on the beach with my son
>Ah fuck, the babysitter brought my son
>>159029349
> Black looks at Truks before being punched
> "IT WAS A SURPRISE ATTACK!"
> Black sees a grenade before it flashes
> "HE COULD'VE KICKED IT!
>>159029214
What kind of retarded comparison is this?
One did nothing to Zamasu and the other fucking accomplished more than the combined efforts of Gary Stu Trunks and Jobber Rageta.
>>159029214
>Anime
>Black>>>Vegeta>>Goku>Zamasu
>Goku>>Merged Zamasu>>Vegeta and Trunks
>powering Merged Zamasu in a clash of power
>Manga
>Goku>>Vegeta>>Black>>>>>>>>>>>Zamasu
>Goku=Merged Zamasu
>Sneak attack
>>159029349
Wouldn't kicking a flash grenade make it...you know, flash?
>>159029386
Then why didn't Goku need Kaioken to break his timeskip?
>>159028496
Left looks more impressive.
>>159029391
>Why didn't Trunks powerup during the year he was constantly fighting Black or when his mother and waifu(appeared to) died?
he did. they made a whole song and dance about how by the time trunks went to the other timeline for help he'd reached the point where him as an ssj2 was comparable to a whis-trained goku at ssj3
>>159029387
Kid Trunks was supposed to have blue hair too in the new movies/Super. But Toei decided to keep his hair purple
>>159029391
>sneak attack
I love it when Toyocucks try so hard to defend /their guy/
>>159029482
>he did
He didn't he only got SSRage after Zamasu called him a sinner.
>>159029402
Goku broke his arms doing so + did the attack directly after Vegeta/Trunks
>>159029514
>Beerus notices Gohan
Nice try
>>159029398
So Mai is faster than Trunks in the anime?
>>159029514
>retard hasn't read db before.
>>159029453
Because Goku got stronger aswell.
He said that in the previous episode with Freeza aswell, that he got alot stronger fighting guys from other universes.
Question for Mangafags:
Would you prefer:
> Mastered SSB Goku + Hakai
> SS Rage Trunks + Sword of Hope (with an explanation)
>>159029523
have you never heard of a growth threshold?
may as well ask why Gohan didn't go ssj2 when Goku died in the fight against Raditz
>>159027014
I really enjoyed this. Excellent job Anon.
>>159029402
Goku shitting on the father son galick gun is the best moment in that arc.
>>159029556
And it didn't affect Beerus. Like Trunks shouldn't have affected SSR Black
>>159029349
Tao Pai Pai should have been fine after this.
>>159029629
He had less than a day to train with Vegeta so he couldn't have got that much stronger. Also he didn't transform against Black and Zamasu in episode 57.
>>159029614
I actually agree with your pic, anon
but don't defend one thing and attack something similar
>>159027166
Any second now... I'll be coming back soon
J-just you wait
>>159029623
Trunks is shit either way
>>159029649
>And it didn't affect Beerus.
It did, Gohan put Beerus in a full nelson
>>159029623
SSBKK + Hakai Goku in Toei's anime, all the way.
>>159029623
None of them, black arc is shit both anime and manga
>>159029614
I'm not sure this is comparable. Even though Nappa was stronger than Piccolo, it wasn't to the absurd degree that SSR Black is supposed to be compared to Trunks.
>>159029762
And see what happened with that
>>159029623
I prefer pic related using Hakai on Zamasu.
>>159029762
That's like a normal human (albeit with long arms) putting a bear in a full nelson.
It doesn't give a fuck.
Gohan might as well be hugging him.
>>159029623
Sword of Hope was actually great, the lack of an explanation was it's main issue
>>159029812
>And see what happened with that
You mean like Black smashing Trunks' face into ground right afterward?
>>159029860
Beerus never got hit like Black did
>>159029849
I always considered the difficult part of the spirit bomb to be collecting the energy from others, not forming it into the ball.
Everyone willingly gave up their energy to Trunks and he put it in his sword.
It's his powered up form that needed better explanation.
>>159028996
>>159027954
Oh my fucking god
Did someone, somewhere thought it was a good idea to make this?
>>159029829
This
>>159027954
Redditpic
>>159029913
>Beerus never got hit like Black did
Wrong again >>159029762
>Gohan put Beerus in a full nelson
>>159029700
>so he couldn't have got that much stronger.
false
> Also he didn't transform against Black and Zamasu in episode 57.
because he was still up to his eyeballs in doubts, insecurities, fear of failure, and all that other psychological baggage that leaves a person spiritually unbalanced.
the franchise has spelled out time and time again that your mental state is a huge factor in how good a fighter you are. go watch some classic wuxia films if you still don't get it.
>>159028496
Right but ONLY because of the SS rage shit aura. If he was a proper SSGSS or his powerup was explained properly I would've liked it more.
Also friendship spirit bomb sword was garbage too.
Can a fusion take off the earrings?
What if Vegitto took off one and gave it to Trunks?
>>159029957
Nice headcanon bruh.
>>159029953
You know a full nelson by itself doesn't hurt, right? Beerus didn't give half a fuck about the ant trying to hug him.
>>159029953
Thats...not an attack anon
And a full nelson for one second, with completely indifferent Beerus =/= landing an actual clean hit against Black
>>159029556
>>159029762
>>159029953
Also SS2 Vegeta vs Beerus. Didn't do shit but he got a few hits in.
>>159029972
>Trugetto
>>159030010
I see
>>159030006
>>159030019
>You know a full nelson by itself doesn't hurt, right
Doesn't matter Gohan was able to touch Beerus he could have attacked him but he chose to restrain him instead.
>>159030088
You're trying so hard to compare the two when it' a false equivalence
>>159029984
so you admit you neither watch the anime nor read the manga and are just here to shitpost. IP Filtered.
>>159030144
>no argument
>>159027434
The animation is so sexy.
It's incredible.
It would be a wonder if we were to ever see such kind of quality animation again.
>>159028496
Left was shit, but right was somehow MORE shit
>>159030166
You're comparing apples and oranges
> Still anime vs manga thread
>>159030216
>no argument
>You're comparing apples and oranges
Mmm >>159029250
>comparing a sneak attack to an asspull power up
>>159027202
>Yardrat
Can't wait to see what they've come up with for him. Probably completely mastered instant transmission, I don't think he'd be that strong, but very agile.
>Portugal's dub is returning next week after a 3 month hiatus
I love my country.
>>159027731
Where's the chubby pink fighter from Universe 7 that he was rooting for in the exhibition match?
>>159030216
why can't fruit be compared
>>159030259
>comparing a sneak attack to an asspull power up
> We already established that Black saw Trunks, but sure let's backpedal
No anon, its comparing an attack vs an attack
>>159030357
We already established that Black saw Trunks, but sure let's backpedal
See >>159029556
>>159030353
Because one became a fruit off-screen
>>159030380
> grabbing for a second =/= straight-up attack
They are NOT the same
Resorting to circular reasoning retard?
>>159030384
I'm not even sure what the argument is I'm just being annoying
What are you guys debating?
Trunks hitting Black?
Didn't Vegeta get God Ki by just training with Whis on Beerus' planet & being exposed to the Ki?
I'd imagine with constant exposure to Goku, Vegeta, Black, & Zamasu, eventually the same happened to Trunks
>>159030423
>They are NOT the same
Yeah they are, both were able to lay a hand on characters way above them. Stay mad retard.
>>159030466
Beerus doesn't give a shit when he sees Gohan, and dismisses him in a second.
Black is visibly surprised and hurt when attacked.
>>159027045
FREEZA FREEZA FREEZA FREEZA
>>159030347
He got Bill Cosby'd
>>159030497
>Beerus doesn't give a shit when he sees Gohan
Nah he was pissed over Buu's rudeness.
>Black is visibly surprised and hurt when attacked.
Not really he was more annoyed.
>>159027474
Show me where Goku was specifically training to unlock Super Saiyan 3
>>159029117
With a pussy
>>159028269
How can I learn to doodle like that? assuming I cant draw a proper stickman
WORSHIP
>>159029623
>> SS Rage Trunks + Sword of Hope (with an explanation)
I actually don't even need an explanation. It may have been an asspull, but made a lot of sense to me and I liked it
>>159028463
The arc was shit period.
It makes the future trunks/android/cell stuff seem like pure art.
>>159030548
>>Beerus doesn't give a shit when he sees Gohan
>Nah he was pissed over Buu's rudeness.
Your point being?
>>Black is visibly surprised and hurt when attacked.
>Not really he was more annoyed.
>clutching his face in pain
>annoyed
ok
>>159027260
What is his power level now?
Toyotaro's "Future Trunks arc" time-line:
Beginning:
> Awesome art!
> Trunks training as a Kaioshin apprentice
> Trunks vs Dabura was great
Middle:
> Zamasu fighting Kibito rather than Goku
> Zamasu learning of Goku though video rather than personally
Then Goku/Vegeta/Trunks go back to the Future:
> Black somehow killed every single human being on Earth except for Trunks and Mai. Even though he is way more powerful.
> No Future Yajirobe
> Goku/Vegeta fight Black/Zamasu, not Trunks
> SS1 Black toys with SSB Vegeta
> Black is a common ruthless enemy. Not the beautiful smuglord from the anime
> SS2 Trunks is able to land a good hit against SSR Black
> Vegeta gets rid of the 90% power cost of SSB, by constantly using it switching it on-and-off
> SSG Vegeta (not SSB) toys with SSR Black (not SS1). Ridiculous power increase after one battle.
> Goku uses the Mafuba, not Trunks and Mai
> Black and Zamasu fuse because of "emotional damage"
> Merged Zamasu is a time-limited only because Zamasu TECHNICALLY didn't earn his position of Kaioshin in fair game. But stealing the Time Ring is okay.
> Merged Zamasu is weaker, throws blocks, and has Janemba punches
> "Homages" everywhere
> The only power-up Trunks gets in his arc is healing
> Goku prefers to fuse first than use his own full strength (Mastered SSB)
> Mastered SSB out of nowhere. Goku never practiced specifically for the form, nor was the training ever referenced
> Goku getting Hakai, despite NOT being a GoD candidate (he refused the offer). And despite never training for the move, or even at least shown that it was learned by imitating Beerus.
>>159027127
MY RUBARB
>>159030651
Goku specifically MENTIONED how he got SS3
Try again
>>159028463
Don't forget anime Gowasu that guy was somehow just as retarded as Goku.
>>159028232
Oh yeah? and what are you gonna do? teleport behind me?
>>159030892
Nice memes and headcanon, now kys
>>159028463
>oops I forgot the Senzu Beans
>oops I forgot the Urn in the time machine
>oops I forgot the Seal at Kame house
I don't take chinese cartoons seriously, but goddammit this "I forgot" shit happening all the time was annoying as fuck
>>159031061
>headcanon
Where? What points of his are headcanon?
>>159031061
Nice buzzwords
>>159031008
*Purity of heart and mind affects the brewing of your tea*
>>159030758
Is it shaven though?
>>159031115
>Still funny.
>>159031128
Duh. She was made to be one of the ultimate beings.
>>159028385
Yes. Roshi just stated it would take a long time to master.
Retrospectively seeing as goku is a space alien who entire race naturally has both higher ki and ki control him learning a move a human took forever to master isn't bad.
How the fuck do I get rid off image corruption errors?
I'm trying to make a funny and it won't let me post.
>>159031160
What a shame.
>>159031173
git gud
>>159027511
With Yamcha, she consents
>>159031195
>Inb4 she has a function that allows to choose the size of her pussy hair
>>159027260
I wonder what the fuck is Dimps going to pull in Xenoverse 3
>>159030782
Oh the things I'd do to that mouse...
>>159031255
Whoa, you like a normal human has?
>>159031277
wut
>>159031173
Is the image png? make it jpg or the other way
>>159031264
Demon Gods, son!
Remember, datamining showed that there might be a 5th DLC pack for XV2 that has a new Buu form and Dabura.
If XV3 follows suit, then we're most likely getting more demon shit!
>>159028261
>It was still badly written as that we were never once told it could be "learned"
>it's never stated Hakai is limited only to GoD that's a headcanon people are trying to push.
>we ever told beerus/whis was trying to teach the move.
They don't have to teach him, Goku is great at copying moves, all he needs is to see it once. While training with Beerus and Whis, Goku could have easily seen it. Hell the first chapter of this arc has Beerus nagging Goku about becoming a God of Destruction
>>159031344
Demon shit in Super when? Mira and Towa in Super when?
>>159027823
Because the writers don't give a fuck about the characters or have human emotion.
So the death of his wife and son was used as a way for a cheap one second powerup and shitty fight scene.
Best part? Seconds later when trunks(who saw his mother vaporized and his gf apparently murdered)went super saiyan mary sue after being called hurtful names and had everything pinned on him(for some insane reason).
Oh noes, the ambiguously gay duo said it's all my fault RATADGA:TKANGAKJG:LKAJG "autistic screech".
>>159031344
Aren't we getting a 3D side scroll fighter as the mandatory console/PC game this year?
>>159031264
>>159031344
Wait, XV3 was announced already
>>159027260
>>159031344
>>159031264
i was disappointed that no one mentions elder kai being semi wrong with the potara and trunks sudden hair color change
>>159030892
Healer Trunks, "Mastered" SSB and Hakai Goku are the worst offenders. Really no idea what Toyotaro was thinking with those.
I can't fucking post it.
So I'm just referencing Busou Renkin chapter 29 page 9.
Jiren vs Shusui when?
I love these threads and I love Super!
>>159029616
>Because Goku got stronger aswell.
>Current Goku is stronger than SSBx10 Goku in the Champa arc.
This makes 17 fighting onpar with SSB Goku even dumber, it also goes against pic related.
>>159031549
>fuck off Male me
>>159031469
Yes, but that's by Arc System Works, not Dimps.
Also, that game is coming out in 2018, which should leave XV3 for 2019.
>>159031567
I can't to see her getting btfo by Gohan
>>159031549
Keiro.
>>159031560
>Why go to such lengths?
He then uses the RoTaS two extra times afterwards.
I'm getting really mad.
Cropped the picture down to a fucking 40x40 white square and it's still "corrupt". This has to be a server issue.
Will we actually get all 80 characters names?
>>159031682
100% guaranteed
There are figures and DLC and Cards to be sold
>>159031668
Stop blogging. No one cares about your image
>>159031660
Vegeta said NEAR the limit
He's not at his absolute limit yet
>>159031660
It's RoSaT and not RoTaS. muh autism
http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Busou_Renkin_29_9
Here's the fucking page. The joke's gone because I'm so annoyed.
>>159026991
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
best villain coming through
>>159031591
Oh that looks nice.
>>159031826
The transition between all of Buu's forms was interesting, to say the least.
>>159031829
It should prove to be the best DB fighter.
Which Universe would you want to live in /a/?
>>159031902
Which one has futa amazon babes?
>>159031826
That's not a picture of Frieza, though.
>>159031918
The one with Puar
>>159031902
Universe 6 it has a earth so it would be easy to adapt and you get saiyans as wellalso i would have Vados
>>159031902
The One With You
>>159031902
U7's new timeline with 2 Trunks
>>159031902
They seem pretty fun.
>>159031902
U2 has cutes like Helles and others, that or any of the 4 best universes
If Evil Buu eating Fat Buu turned him into Super Buu, why did removing Fat Buu turn him into Kid Buu?
Which do you prefer /a/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13299717
>>159032064
Because Kid Buu is the best
>>159031918
U2 or U10 maybe
>>159031978
How would you visit planet Sadala though?
>>159031344
No way you're lying. DLC 4 is the last DLC
>>159032064
Why are you questioning the logic of Z? You're not allowed to do that, Z is perfect.
>>159032018
That little blue spikey dude is going to push someone's shit in. Probably either Gohan or Piccolo, or maybe the U9 furries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRK_OMQGQlc
>>159027736
i want to fuck that robot
>>159032064
Because turning yourself back into a shota is the best strategy
>>159032137
I hope he lasts longer than cuckpup
>>159032018
That pink haired chick and Damon are my favorite U4
>>159031344
>5th DLC pack for XV2 that has a new Buu form and Dabura.
But DLC Pack 4 is the final pack
>>159030284
TSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
That other dog on U4's team looks a lot like Smugpup but older.
Is it his dad?
>>159032126
>How would you visit planet Sadala though?
i don't know a spaceship
let me have this
>>159032145
Is that why GT happened?
>>159027068
>>159027060
Toyocucks are pathetic
What Universe will be the first eliminated?
>>159032233
I know that, but for some reason files for BUU and DBR appeared in the characters folder.
Pic semi-related, the guy who first discovered Merged Zamasu and Rage Trunks in the DLC found out about those files.
>>159032586
Probably leftovers
Like how datamines found Dixie Kong and Plusle/Minum in Brawl
>>159030892
>>159031104
>SS1 Black toying with SSB, he was SS2 and Vegeta was losing stamina after being SSB for so long
>SS2 Trunks landed one hit on Black, but got his ass kicked completely, not unlike Vegeta vs Beerus
>using SSB for what's literally only the moment he strikes somehow shouldn't be energy conservation
>SSG Vegeta was switching to SSB when fighting SSR Black,
>Acting like Trunks not using the Mafuba is a bad thing when the anime had him learn it via a 10 minute video
>emotional damage is why they fuse fusion headcanon
>"they can use time rings so they must be supreme kais and be allowed permanent fusion" even though Black isn't a kai and can use time rings in the anime
>merged zamasu also uses portals to bring people to him and continue his combos, something janemba didn't do
>trunks doesn't get a bullshit powerup, but did master his SS2 form making it SS3 level in strength
>Goku was stated to have better ki control than Vegeta, and knew of the form's weakness better than Vegeta as shown in the tournament arc, and has been training for years with it, and Goku AND Vegeta knew that holding SSB's power inside could destroy the body
>acting like Goku being offered the position of GoD was anything more than Whis saying he has the potential to be one, even though he refused that potential and power is still there, mentioned having seen the move, and learned the fucking kamehameha as a kid with no effort, while Hakai took all the strength he had left as SSB
tfw toeishills completely lack reading comprehension
Will Vegeta also got Hakai?
>Remember the thread where an anon came up with the Toeishill term
>Everyone told him it was retarded
>Now it's used by everyone
So, what is the term for mangafags? Toyocucks? Toyopedro? Tracetarofags?
>>159032655
Only if he jobs
>>159032064
Evil Buu still had parts of Daikaioshin since he had the cape and gloves. Once they cut off Fat Buu he lost all his absorbsion influence.
>>159032571
Does anyone have the chart so I can actually remember who is from where?
>>159032638
That doesn't address anything. Also you said it was all headcanon, and I still don't see an argument for that.
All you did was sprinkle in some opinions, and "no you're wrong just because"
>>159030284
>Check if my country has DBS dub
>all episodes up to 96 dubbed
>try watching it for a bit
>translates Vegito Blue as Divine Vegerot
What the fuck
>>159032665
Spot on see this guy >>159032727
Who's your favorite GoD?
>>159032753
What country? Italy?
WHY NO YAMCHA
REEEEE
>>159032538
>GT
I dunno what you're talking bout, nigga
>>159032661
It's Toyocucks, newfag.
>>159032834
He's weaker than Roshi.
>>159028865
>I'm a nigger who grew up with the Toonami dub and never see any of Toriyama's other work outside of the DBZ part of Dragon Ball.
All of Dragon Ball is a literal reference or parody of other works you dingus. This in particular is JRPG (Dragon Quest) type characters.
>>159032753
Well at least it got Vegerot right. Yes that's the correct version, not "Vegeto".
>>159026991
not an asspull you fucking retarded brainlet
>>159032638
>acting like Goku being offered the position of GoD was anything more than Whis saying he has the potential to be one, even though he refused that potential and power is still there, mentioned having seen the move, and learned the fucking kamehameha as a kid with no effort, while Hakai took all the strength he had left as SSB
We see Goku mimic the Kamehameha
Not comparable with Hakai
> Goku was stated to have better ki control than Vegeta
Literally could be anything, and that is still not an explanation for Mastered SSB. He never trained or is shown to train for the form.
> trunks doesn't get a bullshit powerup, but did master his SS2 form making it SS3 level in strength
Before the arc fucking started
> merged zamasu punches =/= jamemba punches
You getting desperate? Of course they are. They're different cause he did some extra stuff with it? Don't kid yourself
>even though Black isn't a kai and can use time rings in the anime
It was never stated that they couldn't in the anime. Just that they weren't allowed to.
> the rest
Non-arguments and "you're wrong because I say so"
>>159032891
Oops, meant "Vegito" in there.
>>159032864
I dont give a shit about strength
I care about what makes a good story
Yamcha doing something cool would have big payoff
Why don't they teach Gohan how to use God Ki?
Mystic with God Ki as a base should be infinitely stronger than SSB
>>159032655
Giving both Goku and Vegeta Mastered SSB and Hakai would break DB
>>159029305
>most of the time they chose to give characters spontaneous power ups out of nowhere whenever they start to lose.
Sounds like Dragon Ball. Remember when Goku got a zenkai boost from 90,000 to 3,000,000 to fight Freeza? Remember when he out of nowhere started using Kaioken x10 and even a x20?
>>159027434
>goku actually has muscles
what the fuck is this?
>>159033021
kaioken
>>159032661
Toeishill because they shill for Toei
Toyocucks because Toyo never does anything wrong. They'd love for Toyo to fuck their wife.
>>159033021
Bara
>>159032977
Nah. Yamcha should have been killed off a long time ago
>>159032977
He got to play baseball.
>>159033076
fuck you Z baby
>>159032891
>Vegerot
>Correct
In what fucking universe?
>>159032638
>"they can use time rings so they must be supreme kais and be allowed permanent fusion" even though Black isn't a kai and can use time rings in the anime
Black is literally the Zamasu that killed Gowasu for the Potaras so he could become Supreme Kai and use the rings.
>>159033111
He was shit in the original as well
>>159033076
I agree.
Wolf Fang Fist and the Spirit Ball were cool, but the only fight Yamcha ever won was against the Invisible Man.
Let that sink in.
>>159032586
>I know that, but for some reason files for BUU and DBR appeared in the characters folder.
Welcome to almost every game ever. Game devs always leave code that was never used or scrapped entirely. They're probably leaving Dabura for X3.
>>159033119
Vegetto= VEGETa + KakaroTTO
based on the english dub's spelling, it should be Vegerot, but that sounds terrible so they just went with the nonsensical Vegito
>>159033011
>Sounds like Dragon Ball
eh feels more like a parody of Dragon Ball, when characters got stronger in DB it was because of previously established transformations and the like. Where as in DBS most people seemly have infinite potential to keep one upping their opponent. .
>Remember when Goku got a zenkai boost from 90,000 to 3,000,000 to fight Freeza?
>not during a fight
>Remember when he out of nowhere started using Kaioken x10 and even a x20?
>Out of nowhere
u wot? The Ginyu fight made it clear Goku was working on the Kaioken technique, also x20 ended up doing nothing.
>>159033139
https://youtu.be/5k8KYp0aaJY?t=4s
>>159033021
>what the fuck is this?
Did you even watch that arc? He was overusing kaioken and it was causing his muscles to expand and about to explode.
>>159031902
furry universe
i want to fuqq da doge
Now that the dust has settled, what do we think of their voices?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOogUlaqazQ
>Base Goku Black's voice is still garbage and I hope it's abandoned entirely for the Super dub
>Rose Black's is great, but it doesn't make sense that he switches from 10 packs a day Batman voice to posh british man by going super saiyan
>Zamasu is OK. Could use some better direction
>>159031978
>she will see goku and vegeta fight and get aroused then follow them back to their universe after the tournament of power then fight trunks and beat the shit out of him and goten will get a crush on her
you can trust me I work for toei
>>159033310
>Rose Black's is great
>Zamasu is OK
They should swap, how can you not like
>TRUNKS, YOU ARE A SINNER
>IT IS YOU, WHO HAS CONDEMNED EARTH TO ITS DEMISE
Actual NEW Thread
>>159033372
>>159033372
>>159033372
>>159032465
Could be.
Old Pup gets eliminated which motivates Smug Pup to perform good in the tournament.
He might be one that relevant in U4 because Ganos is already doomed by fighting Goku already.
>>159033310
They're all shit
>>159033391
Wait for the bump limit retard.
>>159033270
> archived
Why do u think this is funny?
>>159033319
>beat the shit out of him
lol
>>159027757
>lol if DB is "just a gag comic" then what does that make Super?
Dragon Ball is a shonen manga and its targeted demographic was always boys between 7-14 in Japan. There's talking turtles, shape shifting pigs, talking cat who lives under god and gives magic healing beans, buildings and vehicles stores into capsules, mercenaries who surf on cut down trees, flying clouds, manlet who commands an army with all his top minions named after colors, flamboyant spandex wearing mercenaries who play rock paper scissors for chocolate, a fat gumball made out of magic that turns things into candy and dragon dalls that make the experience almost entirely consequence free at the end of the day.
This entire franchise is not serious and never was, no matter how much you want it to be. It's a bizarre fantasy world where anything can happen. Asspulls have been part of Dragon Ball since the start.
>>159033310
>playing as a Fridge
Best race
>>159033222
It should be noted that Funimation spelt it as Vegetto with the release of Kai.
>>159027954
>Spiclet Goku being smart
>>159033533
>>159027757
Dragon ball, Z and Super all have serious moments/arcs aswell as funny and crazy stuff
>>159032839
You can deny it all you want, but this form was the tightest shit when I was a teenager watching it.
>>159031826
Friendly reminder that Buu was the only villain in the DBZ anime to succeed in blowing up the Earth and nearly won if it wasn't for Hercule. Even King Cold didn't want his spoiled son fighting this fucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgtIj0JDR-Y
This scene gave me fucking chills back then.
>>159027312
>a cat is fine too
>>159028181
Yes Super is at fault they made Super Saiyan easy to obtain. Totally not Z when they made Goten and Kid Trunks super saiyans for no reason.
>>159033637
SSJ Ikari form is better.
>>159027312
And what the chances he will attempt to do that with any of the ToP girls?
His weakness is going to come back...
>>159029497
Everyone except Ox King looks like a twig, and Ox King is way thinner than usual.
>>159033662
Why is nothing in Super this tense
>>159027954
It was worse in GT that Goku would rather stay fighting in base than transforming.
He couldve turned SSJ vs Cell and Frieza, the fight wouldve turned a bit interesting..
>>159027954
Someone post the collage of GT Goku having to turn SSJ4 to keep a building from falling over on its side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT0w8h3fMlc
>>159028496
>>159028496
couldn't they just have had Vagito beat him? It would have been believable without having to make up bullshit
>>159033637
>the tightest shit when I was a teenager watching it.
Everyone has shit tastes in one thing or another.
>>159033698
No words have been truer.
>>159027434
>>159033021
It really is noticeable how much Vegeta had bulked up by the time the Cell saga rolled around. He barely had any noticeable muscles in his saiyan getup until then.
>>159034222
>It really is noticeable how much Vegeta had bulked up by the time the Cell saga rolled around.
Super Saiyan Grade 2 & 3 cause muscles to expand but at the expense of speed. It's why he didn't look at muscular in the Buu saga as he did in the Cell saga. He had no reason to use that form anymore since he was able to go SSJ2.