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What IS his endgame?
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>>159008434
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
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>>159008434
ridding himself of beerus

his one true threat.

>Someone lets slip that if you kill a kaioshin the GoDs die
>bye bye shin

Are we going to miss shin when he is gone?
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>>159008434
So see what it's like to be a renegade
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>>159008506
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Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Super Kaioken Super Saiyan
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Why isn't there porn yet of the the new girls/character? Or any fan art at all.
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>>159008511
No man Shin has suffered enough already, he doesn't deserve that.
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>>159008530
You will first have to wait for our boy CHADhan to fuck each one of them sideways before dropping them off the stage.
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>>159008109
I wonder if Zamasu ever trained anybody while he was still a Kaio before being promoted.
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How do you expect the tournament to end?

>Decisive universal victory
>Time limit victory
>Time limit draw
>The tournament is interrupted
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>>159008511
Shin doesn't deserve the bullying.
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>>159008530
Claiming the Light Blue haired one
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>>159008567
It does feel that way with Daishinkan being his angel but he should still have someone that creates universes if he goes around destroying them all willy nilly.
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>>159008594
Nah, he's too much of a screeching faggot to do that
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>>159008582
Those "Chad" posters are so cringeworthy.
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>>159008641
Do you have a version that isn't for ants?
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>>159008614
But Zenō is basically omnipotent in the dbs universe. Angels don't create, either, unless you count the construction of the tournament stage.
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>swings vegeta around by his hair, slamming him into the ground
>sits on him
>jumps up and sits on him again
>drags his face through the ground while giggling and throws him into a wall

I'm just thinking of all the humiliating ways shes gonna beat on the prince
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>>159008614
He doesn't destroy them all willy nilly. Just some and GP can undo it all at his leisure.

The angels are there just to keep thing in order.
If zeno does not create anything at all then it's quite logical that the angels also answer to a far higher if not different authority then Zeno.

I'm thinking the great dragon god.
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If you don't think ToP isn't gonna end with the Zenos going "TANOSHIIIIII" and letting everyone off the hook on the condition that fight annually, you're fucking retarded.
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>>159008666
No, Mr Satan.
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>>159008434
Having another theme, F is great but Frieza really needs more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8EkyEZkZao
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>>159008599
Isn't Shin as old as West Supreme Kai?
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What's you're favorite piece of Toriyama art? This is mine.
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gogeta vs jiren when?
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>>159008530
Wait, is there nothing on pixiv right now?
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>>159008434
Kidnap Pan
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>>159008683
>He doesn't destroy them all willy nilly.

He had more which he destroyed before this and didnt replace. He is/was going to destroy all but 4.

Yet he is a constant malaise. You would think there would be more creation and less destruction.
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>>159008733
Yes, he is. Probably younger, though, if I had to guess. Nevertheless that was just cute fan art.
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>>159008530
>>159008610
too bad about the lack of new art
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>>159008733
She's probably older but they're both millions of years old anyways, so it makes no difference for ningen like us
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>>159008674
>Vegeta rushes into enemies
>no team play
>Tumblrinas group him and wreck
>[mumbled muh pride] when he's lying on the floor bleeding to death
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>>159008754
Gogeta's busy with Broly God right now
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>>159008802
Well for Shinjin, Shin is constantly referenced as being really young for his position.
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>>159008812
That isn't Gogeta you dumb retard
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Does Zamasu know the dance ritual?
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>>159008796
>>159008530
you have to do something besides exist for fanart

if she takes out anyone like tien the doujins will flood the market
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>>159008812
you mean gogoku
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>>159008812
>Goku's SS hair
>white belt
>blue pants
>possibly an undershirt
For what purpose?
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>>159008803

I don't know who its gonna be, but I feel like one of the heavy hitters will be taken out fast like this. Hopefully its not veg but we all know his track record.
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>>159008776
Exactly.
If he could create anything, he'd be doing it.
But he isn't.

He's an eternally bored short sighted and tempered child who destroys his toys when he gets bored or thinks they're getting borked and could tear up the other toys.

Zeno is the ultimate god of destruction who's too good at his job and is ultimately just a bored child.

He has to answer to someone even greater or is part of some kind of pantheon of ultimate gods.
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>>159008853
Yes it is, dumbfuck.
>inb4 BUT MUH ORANGE VEST
Go be an autistic faggot somewhere else. Its gogeta. Fuck off.
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>>159008812
More like Kakaku
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>>159008867
Well, he has seen the ritual at least once when Gowasu danced around him for a day
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>>159008870
>Hey Vegeta
>WHAT IS IT KAKAROT?
>You remember the fusion technique?
>OH GOD I AM NOT FUSING WITH YOU AGAIN
>Oh don't worry, I was just going to ask you to cover me while I fuse with myself
>WAIT WHAT?
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>>159008812
Gogoku art when? Veveta should exist as well
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>>159008945
jobber's life
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>>159008598
Goku is the last man standing. Wishes to save the other universes.
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Chris Ayres is sick with COPD and final stage Emphysema, I hope he gets well soon.
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>>159008736
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>>159008945
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instant loss 2 koma mating press of caulifla when?
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>>159008998
>COPD and final stage Emphysema
>I hope he gets well soon
Anon...
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>>159008998
Kill yourself frogposter.
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>>159008998
>I hope he gets well soon.
You really don't get well from COPD/Emphysema. Maybe if he makes it long enough to get the double lung transplant and double bipass, and then makes it through the surgeries
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>>159009089
I just don't want him to die, man.
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>>159009078
Who is she mating? Kale? Cabba?
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>>159008998
Who will voice Freeza for now on? Linda Young?
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>>159008736
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>>159008926
Source on that info? Oh, right. Your ass.
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>>159009145
cabba please.
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>>159009123
And even the transplant has a lot of risks.
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>>159009146
According to Ajay thet already have a couple of people lined up for it.
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>>159009179
Not even Caulifla can resist a tight boipussy.
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Reminder that Son Gohan is beautiful.
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>>159009200
kek
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>>159009200
>Thinking he can get away from Miss Vado/ss/
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>All this new world building in regards to the Gods
When are the demons going to have their day?
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>>159008896
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>>159009200
But she did, easily. Cabba got turned down so hard Vegeta felt it and mumbled "muh pride" in a pained and worried tone.
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>>159009251
I never read Sand Land. Didn't know Dabura was in it.
Cool.
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>>159009193
You know they already like TFS...

What if they got LittleKuriboh to do it? I wouldn't normally suggest that kind of thing, but he's like the only member of the TFS cast that could do his own character justice. Just give him some coaching and he wouldn't really be that bad.
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>>159009251
Xenoverse, Heroes, Online.
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>>159009246
>/ss/
Is that a super saiyan board?
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>>159009078

I can see her jobbing to Brianne, then she will become a Vegeta fangirl once she sees him defeating Brianne and her friends.
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>>159009298
Lurk for two years.
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>>159009157
>tripfag is a spic who enjoys horribly cropped manga pages with horrible quality

It all makes sense now.
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>>159008598

Draw between an even amount of universes that have to duke it out in a real tournament
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>>159009298
Oh she makes him go Super Saiyan alright.
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>>159009157
>>159009327
Non-cancerous pages.
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>>159009193
I hope whoever replaces Ayres as Frieza is able to do the voice as well.

Ayres' Frieza absolutely shits on the old Funi voice and is the perfect translation from the Japanese voice.
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>>159008598
>>Decisive universal victory


This

48 minutes is an eternity with these level of fighters. Look at how much got done in a split second back in dragonball

https://youtu.be/SjWagaGXUgY?t=1m
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>>159009256
>Vegeta at age 30:
>Stages a one man coup against a genocidal dictator's entire planetary occupational force and succeeds thanks to careful planning and cunning improvisation.

>Vegeta at age 58:
>"Punch the strong ones really hard."
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>>159009433
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>>159009308
>faggots still clinging on to their retarded waifu fanfiction and then get mad at Caulifla when she shows no sexual interest at all
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>>159009461
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How come this tripfag is always present in these threads every hour of the day?
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>>159009458

After Freezer was defeated the idea that he actually became the strongest in the universe never left his head
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>Fight goes on
>See all the different fighters
>Gods are chillin
>Whis gives ramen to omniking and other gods
>Universal harmony, everyone spared bc omniking doesnt give a shit about tourney anymore
>Ramen > goku
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>>159009078
It seems like she can't sense others energy. That's why she thinks U11 is nothing
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>>159009508
time machine
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>>159009508
He has no life.
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>>159009458
Toei flanderized pretty much all of the characters except for Freeza.
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>>159009517
She sensed Cabba and Kale's Ki.
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>>159009458
>58 years old
he got 22 years of his prime left
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>>159009508
Communal trip for all of South America.
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Why is nobody talking about this?
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>>159009567
Because it's irrelevant.
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>>159009517
>>159009542
She's never been exposed to God level ki before. Remember Goku/Vegeta couldn't sense it at first either.
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>>159009478
no one likes cauli
the same people who mention the cabba and cauli are the same people who talk about cabba and kale

the nu-saiyajins are a terrible time wasting dissapointment that no one cares for.
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no one is going to talk about this?
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>>159009595
Nice headcanon
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>>159009594
but I'm talking about their reaction to Jiren's Ki. Remember that Cabba also was able to sense Jirens Ki.
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>>159009511
>Freezer
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>>159009542
If this dumb cunt doesn't realize that she's not evne in the top 7 of her team and that piccolo and the androids can easily hand her her ass then she's fucking retarded.

>>159009594
He's not using god ki. Just ningen ki.
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>>159009631
Cabba's been exposed to God ki before.
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>>159009644
>the androids
Since when the fuck can you sense the Androids?
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What would your game plan be if you had absolute control of the z fighters and their strategy?
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>Look dad, that mustache has got to go! It makes you look like a total _____.
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>>159009567
Nobody really gets and advantage out of this except maybe Gohan, and only very slightly. Goku and Vegeta will be fighting at 10x Earth's gravity, but that means virtually nothing considering that they can walk that off like it's nothing.
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>>159008511
in the manga if trunks is aprentice kaioshin, won't he Gohan take the mantle or would beerus still die? also the oldman remains
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>>159009651
So Jiren's normal form has God Ki?
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>>159009631
Ah, I see.
She's a LOL ME TUFFEST moron.
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>>159009695
queer
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>>159009695
fag
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>>159009695
NINGEN
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>>159009635
Probably has something to do with their ki being exotic. remember they couldn't feel u9 doggos ki at all.
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>>159009687
give all your energy to goku

protect goku

sacrifice yourself for goku

stay out of goku's way

pray4goku
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>>159009607
How about you lurk more?
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yamcha>>>vegeta

remove this guy from story please.
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>>159009644
>she's not evne in the top 7 of her team
Really? You think the gummy bear and the robot are stronger than her?
Hit is for sure, but we don't know about Frost.
>>159009721
Maybe he's always transformed.
Maybe she never felt Cabba's ki and could just tell he looked more impressive.
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>>159009722
Cabba is definitively the tuffllest of the three.
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>>159009157
Fuckin' spics
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>>159008757
Checked it. Nada.
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>>159009644
Stop deluding yourself she's stronger than Cabba and Piccolo/18 haven't been serious fighters since the android arc
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>>159009296
I don't know. I always thought that LK was too nasally. Ayres is the only person who can compare to Nakao's preformance
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>>159009678
She can't sense when people are hiding power levels.
And the fact that those two have no power signature yet they are there along with them means that they are a serious threat.
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>>159009770
Fuck off, Puar.
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>>159009731
>>159009738
UGH THE 90s I'M LITERALLY SHAKING AT ITS SOCIALLY ACCEPTED HOMOPHOBIA!
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>>159009703
>10 times as heavy
>meaning kaioken x10 only negates his speed handicap
Like heel this is irrelevant. This will literally leave Vegeta in the floor and allow our boy Godhan to convicingly surpass his father once and for all
Can't wait for him to hand the U6 sticks their own non-existant asses
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>>159009644
Fourth strongest.
Hit > Frost > the Human > Caulifla > Kale > Cabba > Magetta > Bomato > Ganon > whoever else.
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>>159009804
>that QUALITY hair
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>>159009867
Caulifla is not stronger than berserk Kale.
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>>159009867
>Ganon that low
Watch how he's the 3rd guy knocked of U6, he will last longer than the saiyans
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>>159009864
10 times doesn't cut Goku's speed by 10.

At this point they don't even feel it.
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Why do people hold Frost in such high regard when he couldn't even beat Piccolo without being a cheating Jew?
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his voice is actually getting better than the first DLC.
https://youtu.be/EvKS6-7Af44
I like it
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>>159009864

>>meaning kaioken x10 only negates his speed handicap


no that's not what that means. Goku weighs 140

at 10x G he will be 1400.


he got used to that back on King kai's planet during the saiyan saga


His power level literally is thousands of times higher than that now
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>>159009774
>ou think the gummy bear and the robot are stronger than her?
>Hit is for sure, but we don't know about Frost.

Yes stupid.
Vegeta couldn't do shit to the fucking robot.
The winnie the pooh was beaten with a fucking technicality
Frost is on par with SSJ3 Goku at least.
Hiit is a GoD candidate and would probably take it if it wasn't so boring.
Cabba is a bitch
Kale is going to be retconned into just fucking utra saiyajin to save face.
The last two are going to be random faggots that no one gives a shit about.
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>>159009906
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>>159009939
Never underestimate the off-screen powerup.
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>>159009939
frieza taught him to tingle behind the piller
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>>159009802
cabba is a fucking weakling who's SSJ form would get blown out by base vegetta and goku, and piccolo is strong enough to go toe to toe with fatbuu now.
18 has more then likely gotten the same kind of bullshit powerful 17 and krillian has as well.

Piccol and the androids would neck her.
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>>159009939
Maybe he will learn from Freeza where it tingles when he goes Golden Freeza.
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>>159009960
>all this headcanon

Wew
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>>159009906
Slightly stronger as Super Saiyan 2.
Kale can't control her power yet.
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>>159009984
No one is actually stronger for this tourney, they just get chances to shine because everyone will be trying not to murder them by mistake.
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>>159009979
>deflecting a regular omega blaster means you're stronger than LSSJ

No retard
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>>159009948
no way is it comparable to miki though
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>>159009939
Didn't Hit say Frost got stronger enough to make him try a little?
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He's gonna somehow ruin/interrupt Tournament isn't he?
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>>159009911
He'll job to a no-name fighter from U11.
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>>159010022
Prove everything you just said.
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>>159009867
The robot is stronger then Frost and the Bear might be equal to SSJ3 or Just below SSJB
The SJs are the weakest known members of the team.
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>>159010044
It's better than Dub Black at least.
What was Schemmel thinking with that shit?
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there are people who want caulifla to get raped because she trash talk a bunch of U7 ningens
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>>159010022
>cabba is a fucking weakling who's SSJ form would get blown out by base vegetta and goku
Base Cabba is as strong as U6 Tournament Vegeta in base. Caulifla is stronger than Cabba in base and Super Saiyan.
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>>159010064
I feel like Frieza will be the person sacrificed so that we see how strong the Great priest is
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>>159010042
LSSJ literally isn't a thing you massive retard
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>>159009607
That isn't even Gogeta, why should we care about it?
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>>159010069
No he won't, he will be an important character in the fight, just like the U10 parrot
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>>159010087
>the Bear might be equal to SSJ3
Goku could defeat him in base, easily. He's durable but not strong.
Magetta is weaker than Frost due to Frost's training.
Cabba is stronger than him with Super Saiyan, and Caulifla and Kale are stronger than Cabba.
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>>159010093
I DO NOT ACCEPT AUDIENCE FEEDBACK!
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>>159010101
the only thing that is stupid is their stick figure bodies.
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>>159010093
good lord, it's unforgivable. the way they pronounce zamasu guts me though.
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>>159010134
it is canon now. Back tingles made it canon
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>>159010111
Vegeta was going easy on him through the entire thing, once he got serious he rekt cabba with SSJ.
He only went SSB to show off.
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>>159010087
Gimmicks don't determine how strong you are fucking idiot
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>>159010157
>just like the U10 parrot
Don't you disrespect Carl by comparing him to some lowly pig.
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>>159009607
How is Goku going to beat Broly? Are the clothes the source of his power?
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>>159010201
Shut the fuck up you retarded tripfag you add nothing to these conversations
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>>159010206
Vegeta confirmed that Cabba is equal to him in base. Vegeta's had better training with Super Saiyan than Cabba has.
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>If I were to give it a name.... ah, yes! This is Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black.
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>>159009867
Magetta and Botamo are stronger than the Saiyans, and the dudes hidden behind Hit probably are, too.
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>>159010252
You are a sick fresh dog tired to me. Get lost.
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>>159010058
Yes, Hit had to get serious to avoid his attacks. If scouters are a thing in Frost's universe, I'd imagine he'd have to learn to control his ki to hide considering his power.
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>>159010279
Fucking kill yourself you waste of space
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>>159010101
To begin with, chances are those people wanted her to be railed by someone from U7, or then by Cabba. That's self-insert fags for you.
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>>159010134
A form only one Saiyan unlocks is something that deserves to be called legendary fuckwad.
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>>159010269
Headcanon.
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>>159010269
They aren't though. Bomato got beat by base Goku, Magetta is durable but not above SS1 Vegeta. Cabba should be stronger than him by now, and Caulifla is stronger than Cabba.

The human is stronger than them, certainly, but last guy probably isn't.
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>>159010022
Vegetta didn't even have to SSJB to hold his own against SSJ Cabba. He could have fought him in base and held his own without much trouble.

Frost is well into buu saga and below BoG tier in power levels judging by how he fought against goku. Piccolo would have to be SSJ3 but not quite MG to fight equally with him and hold his own.
17 is strong enough to make SSJB goku try from fighting human poachers.
The super writers dont' give a fuck about training or consistency. Just making whatever stories they think will sell the most shwag work.
18 is going to get a comparable power boost from training with krillian. Period.


We know 17 will slap her shit.
Piccolo will easily overpower out fight and outlast her. He's been fighting Mystic Gohan for years now.
18? If they fight, 18 will ruin her shit worse then she ruined Vegetta's shit.
I'm talking spopvitch vs videl with a lot of cooch stomping and hair pulling added.
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>>159008434
to kill goku and rule all duh
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>>159010339
Go ahead and write that in your shitty fanfiction since it will never be canon
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>>159010376
>but not above SS1 Vegeta
In the anime Vegeta won because he insulted Magetta
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I love these threads and I love Super!
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wait what's this about a human
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>>159010279
Why are tripfags always so unfunny?
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>>159008530
There isn't enough Cus artwork.
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>>159009567
that means earth's gravity or vegeta's gravity?
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>>159010386
Sure, Pedro, whatever fits your headcanon.
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i think you guys get the idea
Obsidian frost when?
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>>159010428
And Magetta couldn't defeat SS1 Vegeta.
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>>159010451
When you see the entire U6 team, you can see 2 shades behind Hit, anon believes one of them is a human
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>>159008736
why does Gohan have both Potara earrings?
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>>159010479
I dont know where was goku born anon
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>>159010093
The british thing was to counteract the faggot attitude bruh.
No one is going to take that flamboyant sissyboned power bottom seriously.
Frieza is ridiculously gay and he's the most liked and bad ass villian in DB.
Black is just a big queer joke.
The only way you can get away with that kind of flamboyancy is if you go with "he's a punk and doesn't care about all of this shit". And the fay personality quirks were seen as normal things in british society so...
1+1 = 2.
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>>159010451
The third strongest fighter in U6

Yamcha's counterpart
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>>159010511

he was born in planet vegeta idiot
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>>159010451
U6 has one on their team, there's two members that haven't been revealed yet.
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>>159010511
krypton?
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>>159010267
>FEAR ME KAKAROT! THIS IS LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN GOD SUPER SAIYAN BROLY!
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>>159010559
but what's the name of Vegetas planet?
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>>159010567

why were they shadowed though

i bet they haven't even finished the designs? I mean, why are they shaded? All other fighters are new and don't shown.

One universe has 2 missing fighters, although Tien felt a faint presence. That's still one left.

I'm thinking a lot of these fighters will be filler fighters
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>>159010180
Goku beat bear with a technical ringout
Magetta was holding his own against a SSJ2 vegeta that could hold his own against kid buu and would have won decisively if vegetta didn't hurt his feelings.
Full power base Vegetta could hold his own against SSJ1 Cabba with ease. Calli and Kale being stronger then a fucking weakling means less then nothing.

I think it's canon that SSJ from their universe are demonstrably weaker then SSJs from Goku's universe.
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As someone who doesn't watch much Anime until recently and grew up on DBZ, why even watch this?

They're just going to lose awfully in the beginning, have 15 episodes of exposition explaining how someone's eyebrow twitched and then Goku will win.

I don't understand why this series is still going, or how. You people are wild.
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>>159010598
>LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN GOD LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN BROLY!

>>159010623

....That's the a
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>>159010629
>One universe has 2 missing fighters, although Tien felt a faint presence. That's still one left.
2 of them are hiding, Damon the U4 bug and someone else
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>>159010376
Magetta was stronger than SSJ1 Vegeta, whom is stronger than SSJ1 Cabba. Vegeta only won because he insulted Magetta.
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>>159010208
1.SSJ as well as trasnformations are a fucking gimmick. So are techniques.

2.If that was the case, then why are krillian roshi and tien there instead of goten, trunks, and uub?
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>>159010685

Could have done SSJ2 though...

>>159010623

Is this guy for real

That's the name of the planet. Planet Vegeta. Also, Vegeta's father; King Vegeta. Is this a fucking DBZ Abridged joke.
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>>159009607

We can't watch it. What is there to talk about? Also, non. canon.

>>159010251

Eh, why?

Also, Goku and Vegeta fuse and become Gogeta Blue.
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>>159010797
Tell that to the people who think that looks nothing like Gogeta but instead Goku wearing the fusion vest
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>>159010655
>Goku beat bear with a technical ringout
Bomato couldn't do anything against him as Goku dragged him out of the ring. He's weaker than base.

>Magetta was holding his own against a SSJ2
Vegeta was Super Saiyan, not 2, and he didn't get any real good hits in.

>Full power base Vegetta could hold his own against SSJ1 Cabba with ease.
Vegeta outright stated that at base level, they are even.

>I think it's canon that SSJ from their universe are demonstrably weaker then SSJs from Goku's universe.
It's not. Remember that Vegeta's had training with Super Saiyan far longer than Cabba has. He's more used to it.

>>159010685
But he didn't knock Vegeta out of the ring or win in any regard.
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>>159010623
>Doesn't know it was originally called planet plant
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BEARED
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>>159010136
doesn't mean gogeta blue won't be hype
>>159010797
noncanon or not, it will be fun. and yeah, you can watch it. someone is bound to cam record it.

but wait, i forget where i am. in super threads, the series is suddenly taken too serious and nothing is allowed to just be fun for the sake of it.
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>she still cant read ki

Is ki reading still a fucking rare ability now? Cabba could read U11 just fine. Can Frieza read it?

How come they couldnt sense U9's ki but they can sense U11s?
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>>159010487
It triggers me that you keep calling it Obsidian Frost, when they original artist called it Onix Frost
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>>159008598
Jiren and Goku are the last two standing. Their blows are blowing up the stage as they keep powering up using techs like kaioken.
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>>159010972
>How come they couldnt sense U9's ki but they can sense U11s?
Not the same species or universes
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>>159010972
She sensed Cabba and Kale's Ki.
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>>159010834
>Bomato couldn't do anything against him as Goku dragged him out of the ring. He's weaker than base.
And Goku couldn't do anything to him except drag him out of the ring.
I stand by my post. Bomato is stronger then Base Goku. Who's stronger then SSJ1 Cabba.

>>Magetta was holding his own against a SSJ2
>Vegeta was Super Saiyan, not 2, and he didn't get any real good hits in.
He actually was SSJ2 and Vegeta dished out everything he could and that amounted to less then nothing. He actually hurt himself on the robots body.

>>Full power base Vegetta could hold his own against SSJ1 Cabba with ease.
>Vegeta outright stated that at base level, they are even.
He was only saying that because his ego wouldn't allow someone whos' apparently his mirror to be weaker then him.

>>I think it's canon that SSJ from their universe are demonstrably weaker then SSJs from Goku's universe.
>It's not. Remember that Vegeta's had training with Super Saiyan far longer than Cabba has. He's more used to it.

You need litteral years of training to get SSJ1 and SSJ2. He got it in seconds.
Goku got SSJ1 for the first time and defeated a Frieza that was still slightly stronger then him.

Those saiyajins are just weak as fuck compared to Goku's saiyajins. Fucks sake, there's no way in fuck he would be demonstrably WEAKER then vegeta as a SSJ1 I don't give a fuck what kind of training you have. The SSJ1 form has a flat x50 power boost.
Period.
If that were the case he'd have been able to hold his own against SSJ1 vegeta.
I reiterate. Base Vegeta could easily slap SSJ1 Cabbas shit.
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>>159009193
It'll probably be his brother Greg. He voices Frost in XV2.
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>>159011024
Explain.

The theory during the zen exhibition was that they couldnt sense U9's ki because probably ki outside your original pair of universes has a different signature. But they could read U11.


>>159011047
Then why did she trigger that major "I'm gonna job so hard" flag?
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>>159010972
She's apparently a prodigy who can get SSJ1 and SSJ2 in seconds.
But she's absolutely fucking retarded when it comes to reading ki...
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>>159011111
Caulifla's a smug punk.

>>159011120
Sensed Cabba and Kale's.
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>>159011111
There must be something on those wolves then
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>>159011120
>She's apparently a prodigy who can get SSJ1 and SSJ2 in seconds.
meh, I dont really care about that since her getting SSJ is just adhering to the overall powercreep of the series.

Watch Krillin take out multiple namek saga Frieza tier opponents.
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>>159009284
That isn't Dabra, retard
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>>159011168
>Caulifla's a smug punk.
Cant wait to see her ass be beat by Murichim or some shit while Roshi outs kale.
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>>159009538
I think Frieza is the only character that isn't extremely retarded to the point of self-harm.
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Name a flaw.
protip: you can't
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>>159011250
Her pants look disgusting
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>>159011250
She's a saiyan.
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>>159009927
That's not how gravity works, bud
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>>159008434
How the actual fuck did that not kill Goku?

Goku must be cyan to even fight Gold Frieza.
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>>159011250
my dick isn't between her breast
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>>159011250
ningen
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>>159011250
Disgusting dyke.

I want her to get the Spopovich treatment.
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>>159011250
She's not an amazon.
>>159011293
He was Blue when he took the hit, but it knocked him out of it.
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>>159008598
Freeza is the last man standing, wishes for EVERY universe to be erased because fuck you guys
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>>159011064
>Goku got SSJ1 for the first time and defeated a Frieza that was still slightly stronger then him.
Even at 100% power, Goku had about a 30 million advantage over him.
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>>159011293
Watch that part again, Goku was SSB before he and Frieza landed those punches
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>>159011175
>meh, I dont really care about that since her getting SSJ is just adhering to the overall powercreep of the series.

You can't just fuck something that deeply important to the identity of the series to build up someone that no one liked the idea of.

Have any goddamned clue as to how horribly fucked Champa's universe is now?
An entire fucking universe of SSJs running around with most of them being strong enough and evil enough to kill kais and nuke planets from orbit.

They've basically signed the death warrant of the entire saiyajin race in that universe with this shit. How? Champa isn't a lazy dumb bastard like Beerus when it comes to doing his job as a GoD.

He's just overall lazy.

He'd realize that they're a big fucking problem and personally hakai most if not all of their race.
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>>159011308
I hope Goku gives it to her.
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>>159010658
>i haven't watched this series
>but let me share my opinion on it
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>>159009517
The hell? Sensing energy should be elementary to ki users its even more if an asspull Frieza in his long lifespan never figured it out.
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>>159011352
>An entire fucking universe of SSJs running around with most of them being strong enough and evil enough to kill kais and nuke planets from orbit.
The Saiyans in Champa's universe are heroes for hire
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>>159011407
>An entire fucking universe of SSJs running around with most of them being strong enough and evil
Who the fuck hires someone for a good deed.
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>>159011352
Super saiyans arent worth shit now. You got to stop thinking like a pedro and wacking off thinking saiyans are great when fuckers like Basil are stronger than cell. Sorry but it's true. Power creep benefits everyone in the universe. Watch Krillin take out multiple namek saga Frieza tier opponents.
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>>159011387
No Saiyan could sense energy before Goku learned it on Earth. Nobody in the entirety of Frieza's army could.
It IS a rare ability, we've just taken it for granted.
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>>159011387
>Sensing energy should be elementary to ki users
Nobody outside of Earth could do it until like Buu or something.
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>>159011443
Basil is stronger than Buu Saga Vegito since the fucker can fight Goku in Base. Literally every character in the tournament is leagues beyond Z in power.
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kek
http://screenrant.com/naruto-better-anime-manga-than-dragon-ball-z/
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>>159011387
Well, it's not.
Ki sensing is something that not many in the universe can do.
No one in frieza's star spanning empire could do it.
The fuck makes it such an asspull that frieza couldn't.
As a matter of fact it's a major fucking plot point that a huge fucking chunk of DB depends on.

I mean think about it.
Saiyajins didn't train and knew very little about ki beyond basic ki attacks.

They broke their entire society up based on born power levels and fought battles they barely survived to get stronger.
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>>159011064
>And Goku couldn't do anything to him except drag him out of the ring.
Because of Bomato's ability to nullify damage. Goku easily dodged the Ki blasts Bomato threw at him.

>He actually was SSJ2 and Vegeta dished out everything he could and that amounted to less then nothing.
Nah, he was just regular Super Saiyan.

>He was only saying that because his ego wouldn't allow someone whos' apparently his mirror to be weaker then him.
Vegeta would be more likely to call out Cabba if he were weaker than him. Vegeta would not try to spare Cabba's feelings.

>You need litteral years of training to get SSJ1 and SSJ2. He got it in seconds.
Goten. Trunks.

>Goku got SSJ1 for the first time and defeated a Frieza that was still slightly stronger then him.
Super Saiyan Goku was stronger than 100% power Frieza.

Cabba and co. are at minimum as strong as Buu saga Gotenks' base if not stronger.

>The SSJ1 form has a flat x50 power boost.
This has been wrong since the Cell arc. You can train with the form to get more used to it and stronger in it. Just not up to SS2 level without serious detriments to speed because of increased muscle mass.

>I reiterate. Base Vegeta could easily slap SSJ1 Cabbas shit.
There's nothing that supports this claim.
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>>159011495

double kek
http://screenrant.com/naruto-better-anime-manga-than-dragon-ball-z/
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>>159010439
stop being so positive you asshole
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>>159011443
>Watch Krillin take out multiple namek saga Frieza tier opponents
But Krillin is that strong. Namek saga Frieza isn't shit now, even Yamcha could put up a decent fight.
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>>159011495
But Naruto had a demon fox put in him when he was baby?
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>>159011540
Exactly.
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>>159011495
>Goku was 13 years old at the start of Dragon Ball.
Pretty sure he was 12. Krillin was 13.
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>>159011536
>women were more important
>picture of the sideline squad
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>>159011407
And the namekians are a peacful people...except for piccolo daimamou.

And what of calli's little gang?

Face it. Saiyajins are too dangerous to let live. He saw what kind of danger that Beerus's pet monkey put the entire multiverse into.

Champa's going to wipe almost all of them out.
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>>159011493
>Basil is stronger than Buu Saga Vegito
You mean Bergamo, and he must be the strongest U9 mortal
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>>159011536
triple kek
http://screenrant.com/naruto-better-anime-manga-than-dragon-ball-z/
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>>159011538
I want to see Radit fuck his mommy.

I wonder do saiyan moms cuck their husbands if the son is stronger.
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>>159011536
>women
>important in naruto

Literally only in the sasori fight. Tsunade sucked at everything and was only heal bitch.
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>>159011443
>Power creep benefits everyone in the universe. Watch Krillin take out multiple namek saga Frieza tier opponents.
This retardation is why Super shwag sells for shit.
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>>159011632
>This retardation is why Super shwag sells for shit.
Super sells fairly well compared to its competitors.
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>>159011600
Why are you giving this shit ad money?
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>>159011590
Just dont teach them the ritual and everything will be fine.
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>>159008434
What is THEIR endgame?
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>>159011293
toei sucks ass
watch the manga which is superior and consistent.
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>>159011632
>This retardation is why Super shwag sells for shit.
Nigga Super has made Dragon Ball as a brand make more money than One Piece.
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>>159011084
If you're interested, you can just read the manga if you don't feel like watching the anime. It's not like you'll be missing much anyway.
About the Mai x Trunks thing: Future Trunks does have a more serious relationship with Future Mai, but Kid Mai isn't really interested in Kid Trunks (probably because he is a kid). She has a huge crush on Future Trunks, though.
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>>159011680
>>>>consistent
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Why can Kaioshins die?

Their job is watch one of Zeno's playsets and yet for some reason they can die even though making them eternal would be better.
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>>159011707
As soon as Trunks stops looking like an 8 year old, she'll be gushing for him too.
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Guys, I got a great idea for a filler arc during the ToP. It involves Yamcha.

>a religious cult that worships Cell brings him back with the dragonballs.
>in order to beat the Z fighters this time, he trains for 5 minutes and unlocks god golden cell.
>Yamcha must train to be the one to kill Cell.
>DBS: Fukatsu no C
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>>159011680
>Zamasu just sees Goku on tv one day and gets so fucking butthurt he destroys the universe
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>>159011761
>Mai will never go on a cute date with teenage Trunks
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>>159011756
So Gods of Destruction wouldn't be extremely broken aside from their angels, Grand Priest and Zeno
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>>159011766
Sounds boring lol
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>>159009695
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>>159011824
lol
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>>159011805
If Shin is unkillable then Beerus cannot do jackshit to him. Shin only fears Beerus because Beerus can destroy him.
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>>159011766
No.
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>>159011766
>>Yamcha must train to be the one to kill Cell.
>train
>not wishing it like Ultra Yamcha
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Ultra_Yamcha
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>>159009742
>Zamasu takes over Vegeta's daughter
>Is even sluttier than Multiverse Bra
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>>159011879
Holy autism this wiki
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>>159011740
he's never done anything like that, right?
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>>159011854
>Shin only fears Beerus because Beerus can destroy him
But if Beerus destroys him then Beerus is destroyed, maybe Shin just don't like him very angry.
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>>159011854
>Shin only fears Beerus because Beerus can destroy him.
Not really, since if Shin dies Beerus dies too
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>>159011521
>Because of Bomato's ability to nullify damage. Goku easily dodged the Ki blasts Bomato threw at him.
Fucking base frieza with no idea of how to use ki to make himself stronger or invulnverable was naturally highly resistant to damage and had shit loads of ki.
I stand by what I said.
He's stronger then base goku.

>Nah, he was just regular Super Saiyan.
Nope. SSJ2.

>Vegeta would be more likely to call out Cabba if he were weaker than him. Vegeta would not try to spare Cabba's feelings.
Yeah right.
Dude let himself get taken over by fucking babidi and become a slave once again to get strong enough to go SSJ2 and fight Goku equally.
He's not about to say that cabba is weaker then him.

>Goten. Trunks.
Half breeds.
Cabba and Calli and Kale are full blooded.

>Super Saiyan Goku was stronger than 100% power Frieza.
Ah, my bad.
But that still doesn't mean anything. Cabba should have been at least SSJ1 vegeta tier. He was not.


>Cabba and co. are at minimum as strong as Buu saga Gotenks' base if not stronger.
Straigth fucking headcanon.

>This has been wrong since the Cell arc. You can train with the form to get more used to it and stronger in it. Just not up to SS2 level without serious detriments to speed because of increased muscle mass.
You are both wrong and fucking stupid.
SSJ1 is a flat 50x power boost. Nothing changes that other then an entirely new form ala SSJ2 or SSJ3.
Ultra is an additive strength boost that happens AFTER you are in SSJ forms.
Everything else is simply training in base to perfect SSJ form.
Perfected SSJ isn't even a crazy boost in power. It's the ultimate in efficient use of and mastery of the SSJ form.
The real power comes from how strong you are ni base.

>There's nothing that supports this claim.
Everything supports my claim.
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>>159011919
You need to go further beyond that autism
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random
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>>159011879
what do I do to get this webpage erased?
>>
Who are your favorite Dragon Ball youtubers?
This is mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g129gqfEmbg
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>>159011934
Botamo is hax he sends kinetic energy to another dimension making him literally indestructible since his molecular arrangement is never disturbed by kinetic energy.
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>>159011653
Selling well by being a cheap pack in for DBZ shwag is not selling well as a stand alone product.
It's a cheap extra that hypes up something that is beloved.

And it's a shitty cheap extra that is so weak it can't sell on it's own merits.

Call me when they put out a fucking DBSuper only fighting game or adventure game.
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>>159009567
>Goku was born in vegeta, so its 10x normal gravity for him
I really hate to be that guy, but do you really think toei and toriyama will remember that
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>>159011674
Think Champa will take that chance.
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So I assume everyone from U7 is going to take out characters and have their own battles.

Who beats who?
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>>159011984
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Beegito
>He once destroyed all of reality because Whis farted by accident
Leave Jiren to me
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>>159011766
No no no. Cell should be defeated by his true rival.
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>>159011803
Pilaf and Shu could set up something for them. But like this anon >>159011761 said, things will be a lot easier for him when he stops being a midget who doesn't grow up.
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>>159012048
U11 would be /co/
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How unfortunate for you... Trunks...

*CGI rapeface*
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>>159011984
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Ultimate_Gold_Saiyan
This must be the next form
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>>159012048
Fuck off U7 is /int/ as it is the most popular board
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>>159012102
KRILLIN NO
>>
Cabba = Vegeta
Caulifla = Goku
Kale = Gohan
Frost = Frieza
Hit = Piccolo
Magetta = 17
Botamo = 18
The three other niggers = Krillin, Tien and Roshi
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>>159011018
platinum frost or gtfo
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>>159012138
Next form should be Goku and Vegeta turning into energy and glowing and shit.

I call it Ultimate God Saiyajin.
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>>159011601
Raditz was weak as fuck though, even compared to Bardock
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>>159012198
Geekdom>>159012226
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>>159012198
They are all ningens, ningen
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>>159011922
except he never saw the hakai sweetie
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>>159012277
>>159012229
Geekdom doesn't have a cute waifu who knows her shit about Dragon Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g129gqfEmbg
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>>159012293
nice headcanon
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>the average poster here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dA8F5ZXdfo
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>>159009446

Agreed. I honestly couldn't believe how good a job he did when he first came on; from his wailing/screaming to his downright snobby attitude, he felt too fucking good of a fit to be true.

I like both the JAP/ENG tracks for DBZ/DBS and don't really favor one over the other, but Ayers being gone for an indefinite amount of time is just fucked up.
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>>159011934
>50x boost

When will this fucking meme end. The guidebooks are non cannon, and SS giving a Kaioken like 50x multiplier does not work with power scaling, and hasn't since Cell has a SS aura.

The form made goku 50x stronger then he was in the Namik saga, that's fine. But it isn't a static multiplier. It just adds power on top of what you have. It doesn't make sense any other way.

Just look at Goku's recent fight with Frieza. He was doing somewhat good against Golden Frieza in Base. Forget Blue, if SS was really a multiplier, he would have absolutely annihilated Frieza as a SS1
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>>159012270
Was it because Gine spoiled him with love?
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>>159012347
>thats only the average
I wonder how are the ones above the average
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>>159012336
nice non argument
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>>159012347
>that body
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>>159011934
Friendly reminder that SSJ is fundamentally incorrect on all conceivable levels.

>English: Super Saiyan (no J to be found)
>Japanese: Super Saiyajin (Saiyajin is not Saiya Jin, therefore SS is accurate even in nippon)

The Japanese people don't even use SSJ, and by the way jin is a suffix that basically means "race or group of people." "Romunjin" means that you're referring to someone who is a "Roman," for example. It's not some kind of special or unique phrase. There are also Shinjin (Kai), Namekuseijin (Namekians), and even Majin (Maō being related to the Japanese word for evil, demons, devils, or malevolence; i.e., "Maou the Demon King"). Jin is not a seperate entity worthy of adding an entirely new letter to the name. Only people who don't know any better do this.

Please stop embarrassing yourself. SSJ has been wrong since its inception. They spell it as SS or SSGSS in all promotional posters, the manga, video games, etc. They do not spell it as SSJGSSJ or whatever other headcanon you come up with. Neither do they talk about FPALSSJ1MG3 (Fully Perfected Ascended Legendary Super Saiyajin 1 Mastered Grade 3). The majority of these problems would resolve themselves if you stopped listening to PedroTheYouTuber and got off of the poorly optimized dragonball wiki which has been edited by spics who think filler is canonical.

If you disagree feel free to provide any canonical example of a Japanese source material referring to SS as SSJ. You will not find it. "People have been incorrectly and ignorantly using SSJ for years, we've always done it this way! So what if it's wrong! We shouldn't change anything!" is not an argument and is in-fact an admission of error.

Thank you and have a nice day!
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What gave a bigger boost? Mastered Super Saiyan or Mastered Super Saiyan Blue?

FPSS took Goku from below 17 and 18 to be able to hang with Perfect Cell

MSSB took Goku from below SSR Goku Black level to being the same tier as Merged Zamasu
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>>159012270
Because Bardock kept zenkaiing. He loved killing innocent people.
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>>159011934
>Fucking base frieza with no idea of how to use ki to make himself stronger or invulnverable was naturally highly resistant to damage and had shit loads of ki.
Base Frieza can't regenerate either, but Piccolo could when he fused with Nail. By your logic, Frieza is weaker because he can't regenerate.

>Nope. SSJ2.
Super Saiyan.

>Dude let himself get taken over by fucking babidi and become a slave once again to get strong enough to go SSJ2 and fight Goku equally.
>He's not about to say that cabba is weaker then him.
He gets mad when Cabba asks him to teach him how to go Super Saiyan. Vegeta would and has called Trunks out on being weak. He wouldn't butter up Cabba. Vegeta was sincere and happy.

>Half breeds.
>Cabba and Calli and Kale are full blooded.
Okay, and what does being a half-breed grant? Higher power. It's why Goten could go Super Saiyan more easily than Gohan, because Goten was stronger and had more exposure on how people transform. Cabba never saw it until the Tournament, and he learned it comparatively easy. High base power is a requirement to transform.

>But that still doesn't mean anything. Cabba should have been at least SSJ1 vegeta tier. He was not.
Because Vegeta has more experience and training with it.

>Straigth fucking headcanon.
Gotenks learned how to hit Super Saiyan 2 fairly easily, and then beyond it. Hell, this is lowballing it substantially. Vegeta and Goku could fight full power Frieza without transforming in the RoF saga. This puts Goku and Vegeta's base above even 100% Namek Frieza at the very least and most likely way higher. Counting that stupid Jelly Vegeta filler, base Goku and Vegeta are as strong as SS3 Gotenks.

>You are both wrong and fucking stupid.
Those forms are still part of Super Saiyan. Cell even shows off the Maximum Swole form to taunt Trunks. The Grade forms are still Super Saiyan, just getting more power out of it. You can bring out more power from the form through training, that was the point.
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>>159012475
I actually agree with this. The whole J fixation is weird.
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>>159012012
Here is the comparison of the sales with Super and the sales with Kai.

Which is bigger, anon?
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>>159012478
Mastered SSJGSSJ
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>>159012141
Most popular board is /pol/, newfag.
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>>159012378
Just so you need around 30,000 earth masses to destroy a star the mass of our sun

So a 50x power multiplier cannot explain that tremendous energy gap.
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>>159012475
You're fucking stupid. Saying SS makes it sound like we're talking about ships.
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>>159012583
SSJRGB was the best form
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>>159012475
nobody cares about what chinks think
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>>159012628
Yes, Anon, because when I say "Guys check out SS2 Goku's fight against SS2 Vegeta in the Majin saga! It was the best fight of the series!" people will immediately think of carpentry and the titanic.
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>>159012347
I wish I was in that good of shape.
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Leave Jiren to me.
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>>159012773
Green parrot is going to be the last U10, Murichim is going to save him and parrot is going to win
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>>159012773
>when you skip everything
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Do yu like the EU.portuguese dub?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luA0jpZxK78
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>>159012378
SSJ forms don't add ki.
They make what ki you have more useful. It's about efficiency. Not a huge ki pool.

If a huge ki pool was all it took to be powerful then kaioken would be the ultimate fucking technique and the androids would be utterly invincible since they had limitless ki.

Also, word of god states that the SSJ form is a 50x multiplier. Toriyama lamented in an interview that he regretted that he didn't make SSJ a static 10x multiplier instead of 50x.
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>>159012773
Why does he have a skirt?
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>>159012871
Because that's the only way he can shit on people while he's flying
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>>159012475
Non-japanese people use SSJ because the abreviation SS is so fucking ubiquitous that it can be anything.

SSJ is unique and simple and works. Don't fight us on this.
Just accept it and move the fuck on.
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I wanna fug balloon girl!!!!
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>>159012676
>>>/r/DragonBall
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>>159012773
KAW
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Is Beerus the worst GoD?

>let freeza do whatever the fuck he wanted to
>let multiple gods be killed by a monster because he was too busy sleeping
>destroys perfectly good planets because lol they didn't have good food
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>>159011803
he just needs to try harder
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>>159011984
>Buudoria

What
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>>159012982
You misspelled Sidra with the worst universe, Beerus has second worst
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>>159012982
Sidra seems to be worse since he cant decide what to destroy. Beerus is pretty much up there with him though. Wouldnt be surprised if Beerus is worse.
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>>159012198
Rhymestyle
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>>159013020

You can still be a better GoD than Beerus but have a worse universe because of a worse kai and angel.
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Music during the tournament while fighter beat the shit out of eachother:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEC7tPPKAXQ
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Too dumb to sense energy. This makes Cabba the best U6 Saiyan I guess
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>>159012048
>/v/ is the shittiest universe
kek
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>>159011984
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Majin_Zarulla
>Zarulla is really awesome and it is strong. He is nice, strong and weak.
What?
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>>159013080
>because of a worse kai and angel
Rou sucks, but I don't think Mojito sucks
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>>159012475
I've always thought this but its so common and inconsequential that I just went with it
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>>159012048
U11 should be linked to other board. Feels more like a /pol/ or /asp/
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>>159012513
>Base Frieza can't regenerate either, but Piccolo could when he fused with Nail. By your logic, Frieza is weaker because he can't regenerate.
No, you're not using my logic. You're using some ridiculous bullshit that doesn't even work.
Cells regeneration made him powerful
Piccolos regeneration is a nice perk but nothing that would make him invincible.
Frieza was mighty because he didn't need super forms or training or even basic ki knowledge that goku desperately needed to equal frieza.
He was powerful because that's just all him.

>Super Saiyan.
Nope SSJ2.

>He gets mad when Cabba asks him to teach him how to go Super Saiyan. Vegeta would and has called Trunks out on being weak. He wouldn't butter up Cabba. Vegeta was sincere and happy.
Nope. He's simply letting the little twink think he's strong then hurting his fee-fees so he can go SSJ1. Cause..you know...bad words and back tingles are enough to make you go SSJ now.

>Okay, and what does being a half-breed grant? Higher power. It's why Goten could go Super Saiyan more easily than Gohan, because Goten was stronger and had more exposure on how people transform. Cabba never saw it until the Tournament, and he learned it comparatively easy. High base power is a requirement to transform.
Them not dumbfucking into it while being beyond fucking beyond cell saga tier in power and it being so goddamned easy is fucking bullshit.
The kids could be handwaived because we know jump editors forced it on toriyama+the kids were sired by near SSJ and SSJ fathers.
Cabba and those other assholes? No fucking excuse.

>Because Vegeta has more experience and training with it.
That's not how it fucking works.
SSJ1 is a flat fucking power up. It's the same for everyone.
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Anyone have the image with all of the universe bios?
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>>159013089
>>159013220
>Staying confident instead of shitting your pants in front of all your opponents
>Trying to be friends with the people who are trying to protect their universe by destroying yours
Caulifla did nothing wrong
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>>159012012
>Call me when they put out a fucking DBSuper only fighting game or adventure game.
You seem fixated on this point. I know who you are.

If you had any kind of game design sense you'd know why this statement is faulty. Because there is so much more you could do by being inclusive than being exclusive. A "Super exclusive" game would probably still sell, but why do that when you can make a game that has even more content?

It'd be like asking why they don't make a game that's exclusively the Buu saga again; no Cell, no Frieza, no teen Gohan, no Future Trunks, no Ginyu, no Nappa, no Raditz, no Beerus or Pan or Appule, etc. Similarly, a game that's exclusively Cell saga, exclusively Saiyan saga, etc. just doesn't make as much economic sense. Not because people don't like those sagas, but because you get more out of it. Maximizing profits.

What makes more money? GT: Transformation, or Budokai Tenkaichi 3? Origins, or Burst Limit? More content, more money. And even in games where the content is being limited intentionally, like FighterZ, you have things like Golden Frieza being added.
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Why is Goku so fine with essentially killing 7 other universes?
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>>159013224
Jiren the GAY
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>>159013303
Because he's best boy
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>>159013264
>Gotenks learned how to hit Super Saiyan 2 fairly easily, and then beyond it. Hell, this is lowballing it substantially. Vegeta and Goku could fight full power Frieza without transforming in the RoF saga. This puts Goku and Vegeta's base above even 100% Namek Frieza at the very least and most likely way higher. Counting that stupid Jelly Vegeta filler, base Goku and Vegeta are as strong as SS3 Gotenks.
Good point. However Vegetta was lying about cabba being as strong as him.
And Gotenks is a goddamned magical mutant made of two kids who had SSJ as their second nature. It getting SSJ2 with ease means fuck and all.
Calli getting it nanoseconds after getting ssj1 is bullshit. Period.


>Those forms are still part of Super Saiyan. Cell even shows off the Maximum Swole form to taunt Trunks. The Grade forms are still Super Saiyan, just getting more power out of it. You can bring out more power from the form through training, that was the point.
Your point is fucking WRONG!
SSJ1 is a fucking flat powerup.
Ultra is an additive power boost that can be applied to SSJ1/2/3
SSJ2 and SSJ3 are (according to godking toriyama)improved powerups for SSj1 that trade efficiency for pure power with SSJ3 being a dumpster fire of pure raw destructive life shortening power. Basically the kaioken of the SSJ forms.

We are talking about base fucking SSJ1.
Vegeta was in base SSJ1
Cabba was in base SSJ1
Vegeta was demonstrably more powerful then Cabba.
Cabba was in fact WEAKER then Vegeta.
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>>159013303
Because he knows Zeno will be so entertained that

1) He'll decide not to destroy any universe. In this case, I bet Frieza wins the sDB to revive himself.
2) Zeno will realize that he destroyed a big source of entertainment and Goku will use his wish to revive said universes.
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>>159012565
Kai is a shitty cheap as fuck cash in with mostly bad voices, all of the fun filler taken out, and none of the music people grew up on.

It doing poorly is pure 100% logic.
Fuck, when people saw the OP for Kai and thought for a nanosecond that they were going to get updated HD hand drawn shit for the series? You could hear the DB autists having simultaneous orgasms in their rank basements.
But it ending up being just the same shit but with a slight color upgrade basically sank the entire damned world.

Why spend a single solitary fucking dime or nanosecond on watching a worse version of something we already saw and imprinted on?

Exactly.
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>>159013264
>Frieza was mighty because he didn't need super forms
He literally had three.
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>>159013368
I want big tits cutie from U4.
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>>159013303
Because he'll use his wish to save them.
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>>159013418
Frieza's final form is his base form. His "first three" forms are powered down modes meant to limit himself due to shitty control. He shouldnt have that issue now.
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>>159013292
The litterally have DB games for each fucking saga of DBZ.

They have DBZ only fighters with the occasional DB character tucked in there as a nice extra.

There is a fucking DBZFighter coming out right fucking now and I see not a single solitary fucking person asking for a single solitary fucking charcter from Super.


Go sit down in the fucking stupid corner.
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>>159013419
This whole team except the guy in the middle looks like trash. Jobbers for sure unless they have some magic gimmick or something.
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>>159013533
They have two hidden members. They'll definitely be one of the stronger teams since Kitera has been getting a lot of focus.

U10, U9, U3 I think are the weakest.

I believe in smugpup.
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>>159013533
That's not the entire pic, you missed the other 2, Damon must be hiding somewhere along with someone else
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>>159013418
Those aren't power up forms. Those are power down forms.
His true base form is obscenely powerful. Even now.

He barely fucking trained, if you don't call the ass kickings Cold gave him when he stepped out of line or did something carelessly withoug controlling his powers training.

Goku and the rest, even after using SSJ forms, are still dependent on ki tricks to bridge the gap between them and beings who are just physically more powerful then them.
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>>159013533
Everyone that didn't even get shown before this is unimportant.
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>>159008434
Reminder to put a fucking space between Dragon and Ball you newfag.
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>Frieza was such a lazy shit that he'd rather learn how to power himself down than make the effort to maintain his full power
I'm glad he's dead.
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>>159013351
Meh, I think the Angels and Grand Priests big plan is to make Zeno care about the multiverse and see it as an endless source of entertainment.

Goku is just a retard who honestly believes that he's so strong that he can win the tournament and wish everyone back.

Problem is that Jiren and Hit are there. The entire multiverse is gunning for his team and 50% of them are outright fucked if they decide to eliminate them first.
Even worse, Jiren is gunning for him and he's strong as fuck.
Hit doesn't want to kill goku, but he knows that if he wins their universe is fucked.
And if Goku thinks the other universes are going to wish back U7 then he's fucking deeply retarded.
He KNOWS Zeno will wipe out a fucking universe faster then a lez will suck down a big cock if she was sure no one would find out.

Face it. Goku is kind of being portrayed as a goddamned retard. Even Cell games Goku was more serious then this.
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>>159013264
>Cells regeneration made him powerful
Cell's combination of traits (regeneration, insane durability, Zenkai) made him powerful.
Bomato's ability is innate.

>Nope SSJ2.
Super Saiyan

>He's simply letting the little twink think he's strong then hurting his fee-fees so he can go SSJ1.
He only did that after Cabba asked him to train him. Vegeta wasn't trying to baby Cabba.

>The kids could be handwaived because we know jump editors forced it on toriyama+the kids were sired by near SSJ and SSJ fathers.
The "editors forced it" meme again. How I hate you so. You're going off pure headcanon. Cabba had never seen the transformation, Goten and Trunks had seen it plenty.

>However Vegetta was lying about cabba being as strong as him.
No matter how many times you say it, you're not going to be able to ignore that Vegeta proudly declared that they were equal. He wasn't trying to shelter Cabba's feelings. If Vegeta thought he were weak, he would call Cabba out on it.

>And Gotenks is a goddamned magical mutant made of two kids who had SSJ as their second nature.
The only thing their "magic" does is make them stronger. That's it. They have creative techniques, but not because of Fusion. Higher base, easier it is to unlock higher forms. I like how you're getting increasingly hyperbolic with your statements too.

>SSJ1 is a fucking flat powerup.
Except it wasn't. The Grades are still part of Super Saiyan 1, and you could put out more power with it through training. Hell, your second statement only strengthens this by saying SS2 and SS3 are also improved powerups of SS1.

>Vegeta was demonstrably more powerful then Cabba.
As a Super Saiyan, not in base.
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>>159013786
Actually it's not his full power. that's just his walking around normal every day form.

He had a power down form and floated around because he sucked shit and ki and personal control and accidentally ruined a lot of shit.
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What the point of this form?
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>>159013875
To go even further beyond.
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>>159013413
>Kai is a shitty cheap as fuck cash in with mostly bad voices, all of the fun filler taken out, and none of the music people grew up on.
Kai attracted a new audience. Kai sold reasonably well overseas, enough that Kai Buu happened.

The point is, if Super were really only riding on the coattails of Z, the franchise would only have a boost comparable to Kai. But it's doing far better than Kai ever could, because of Super's new content, not the old.
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>>159013875
Lots of power with the insane stamina drain, only good when dead and against short fights.
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>>159013875
To tingle futher beyond
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>>159009607
Is that God Broly? He should have blue hair, not whatever that color is.
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Didn't they talk about at some point that training the individual forms makes them stronger? Or was that training in your base form makes all your forms stronger?
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>>159013950
Are You really expecting any logic in terms of Saiyans from Akira "Oh shit I forgot that there was a SSJ2" Toriyama?
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>>159012347
What does fusing feel like?
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>>159013875
GENKAI TO KA NAAAAAAIIII MOOOOOON
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>>159009687
So any bets on the two new universe 6 members my money is on a Human and Namekian
>>159009867
Hit > Human > Frost > Kale > Ganon > Cabba > Magetta > Namekian > Bomato > Caulifla
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>>159013521
And those games sell poorly compared to the inclusive games. Which is why I asked you to compare their sales. Did Legacy of Goku come close to pushing the numbers that Budokai 2 did? Budokai 3? Fusions? When there's more content, you will make more money.

>There is a fucking DBZFighter coming out right fucking now and I see not a single solitary fucking person asking for a single solitary fucking charcter from Super.
Golden Frieza is already in. Plenty of people are asking for characters like Hit to be in, plenty more are already presuming Black will be in as a Goku clone. Though I guess you have your head up your own ass so no wonder you haven't heard about this. You can't even spell the game's name right.
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I kind of want powerlevels to plateau and have it come down to who's a better fighter again.
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>>159011079
literally who?
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>>159014039
The Legacy of Goku games (including Buu's Fury) were so primitive. They deserved what they got.
I'd love to see something like them again, except competent.
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>>159014039
Golden Freeza is a DBZ character.
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>>159013799
>The entire multiverse is gunning for his team and 50% of them are outright fucked if they decide to eliminate them first.
I legit hope that pic related happens in the anime (w/ Frieza of course) after U7 blasts the fodder that goes straight after them in a combined attack. Then it becomes more spread out. Murichim attacks Toppo so we know not everyone guns for U7.
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Is Mai around her 10s now ?She was on her 20s when she first met goku so she should have been like late 30s right now.
Is she only physically 10s ? Because she actually acts like a 10 year old.
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>>159014158
The entire Pilaf gang is very immature.
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>>159014105
Legacy of Goku 1 was garbage, but Legacy of Goku 2 was okay. Buu's Fury was the most polished.

Webfoot did want to give another try at the series, but fuck that. They made Taiketsu and GT: Transformation too. And that awful Legend of Korra game.

Fusions is at least good.
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What is planet Namek's gravity in relation to Earth?

Does Piccolo receive a benefit or nerf due to being born on Earth? Gohan definitely benefits.
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Here lemme go through a list with how the tournament will go for the main three Universes.

Universe 6
>Magetta and Botamo are both IT'ed off the stage by Yardrat-sama
>Caulifa is disqualified early on for underestimating her opponents
>Kale is stomped by Frieza with the help of Cabba
>Cabba fails to defeat Frieza but deals a crippling blow before getting knocked out
>Frost is nearly defeated by Frieza just in time for Hit to show up and the both of them defeat Frieza
>rest of them jobs

Universe 11
>Dyspo is defeated by Frieza and/or the Humans
>Kahseral takes on both 17 and 18 defeating them but is weakened enough for Krillin to take down in a last ditch effort
>Toppo is defeated by Gohan after he trashes a large portion of Team 7
>Jiren defeats Gohan and Vegeta with ease
>Rest are jobbers

Universe 7
>Tien, Krillin and Master Roshi all take on jobbers and wind up being the reason why some of the stronger fighters lose. Krillin defeats Kahseral at the cost of his own life and Master Roshi is pivotal to defeating Jiren
>18 and 17 have a large role in defeating Universe 3 but are defeated by Kahseral after they weaken him greatly
>Piccolo saves Gohan from Jiren or Toppo at the cost of his own life
>Frieza trashes the Universe 6 Saiyans and causes Frost to be disqualified. Hit, Frost and Cabba do something that leads to Frieza's defeat
>Gohan defeats Toppo and then jobs against Jiren
>Vegeta defeats Brianne and helps in defeating Toppo but jobs against Jiren
>Goku the entire arc is mainly watching Jiren and having various tussles with the Pride troopers and eventually fights Jiren one-on-one winning by the skin of his teeth with a new power-up
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>>159014135
You fucking what.
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>>159013815
>Cell's combination of traits...
His regeneration was fucking bullshit broken it added ontop of his power
Botamo had considerable power on top of his ki absorbing ability. With only minor training goku would have been fucked. If he was weak the goku wouldn't have actually dodged and kept away from his attacks.

>Super Saiyan
SSJ2.

>He only did that after Cabba asked him to train him. Vegeta wasn't trying to baby Cabba.
Dude, Super vegeta is a pussycat. He coddled that weakling.

>The "editors forced it" meme again...
Goten litterally exists because the editors wanted a kid goku around. Think they wouldn't force SSJ on kid trunks?

>No matter how many times you say it, you're not going to be able to ignore that Vegeta proudly declared that they were equal...
No he wouldn't. Vegeta coddled the weakling,

>The only thing their "magic" does is make them stronger. That's it. They have creative techniques, ..
Explain how they were able to get SSJ3 while alive but not even Vegetta or Trunks who desperately needed it in the black arc couldn't? SSJ3 is a shit form?
They can't go SSJ2 even now, even while being stronger in base then gohan ever was as an 11 year old.
Gotenks lets them use more powerful transformations and magical attacks easier.

>Except it wasn't. The Grades are still part of Super Saiyan 1, and you could put out more power with it through training. Hell, your second statement only strengthens this by saying SS2 and SS3 are also improved powerups of SS1.
SSJ1 is a flat fucking 50x powerup according to word of god akira toriyama.
The only way to get stronger is to use the additive Ultra forms, or to go SSJ2 or SSJ3.
It's like you don't fully fucking comprehend the entire idea behind people training to get stronger and think that simply getting stronger from training means that the base 50x boost doesn't apply anymore.

>>Vegeta was demonstrably more powerful then Cabba.
>As a Super Saiyan, not in base.
In base and as a SSJ.
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>>159012378
>The guidebooks are non cannon

A guidebook, by it's fucking nature, is the most canon thing possible at the time of it's release. They exist to do nothing BUT establish canon
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>>159014135
there it is

the dumbest thing i've heard all day
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>>159014229
Fucking newfags I swear
Beerus, Whis, and Golden Freeza are all DBZ characters. They debuted in DBZ movies long before DBS even existed.
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>>159014039
Budokai? You mean the DBZ fighting game that has a few DB characters?

Really?

Look. Those games don't sell well because they are not the kinds of games that people want to play. Not the source material.
And you know what. They still sold enough for them to continue making games like it.

DBS only games would shit the bed so hard it would be a fucking laughing stock.
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>>159014240
It's all the same fucking thing.
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>>159008598
The Grand Priest reveals his true plans.
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>>159014203
>>159014229
They were in DBZ movies before DBS you fucking idiots. DBS just had remakes of the DBZ movies to pad it out.

SSG and SSB are also DBZ abilities. DBS only characters don't show up until Champa and Vados
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>>159014240
FREEZA FREEZA FREEZA FREEZA
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>>159014271
lol
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As you can see, Beerus also made it into DBZ games long before DBS was a thing
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>>159014322
>Kid Buu on the Z Fighters side
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>>159014322
Too bad Battle of Z sucked
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>>159014361
Too bad YOU SUCK
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>>159014322
jesus christ that art
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>>159014158
Well for starters, Mai was never a mature woman. Everyone from the Pilaf gang are immature and prude.
And if she is physically a 12-13 year old now, that means she also has the brain and hormones of a 12-13 year old. So, even though she kept her memories from when she was an adult, she will act like a child.
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>>159014322
broly looks like he was copy and pasted
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>>159009607
What if....
Gogeta in Fusion Reborn was in SSJ2 so he barely had bangs?
What if this is the first time we actually see Gogeta in SSB state where his hair is based on SS1
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>>159014392
okay. That makes sense to me.

I was having issues how they could do loli mai and present trunks but this makes sense a lot.


obliviously it wont matter to a hack like toei and tori toyo
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what kind of position is this
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>>159014429
>he's not down for same age /ss/
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>>159014485
Time to make the spirit bums
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>>159014485
Best boy position
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>>159014191
I want KrillinandGohan vs Hit real bad.
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>>159014490
i mean 60 year old mai in loli body and teen trunks.
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>>159014222
>They exist to do nothing BUT establish canon
It's too bad they always get their shit wrong.
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>>159008434
Is it purity time?
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>>159014142
Yeah. I'm sure the entire multiverse wouldn't just use a combined FUCK YOU ki attack to knock them off the stage.
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>>159014600
She was never that old though, she was around her late 30s when Pilaf made that wish.
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>>159014650
>implying the fodder will be that coordinated.
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>>159014646
You posted a ningen though
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It's amazing how many "DBZ fans" aren't actually Dragon Ball fans at all. You hate the original music, the original voices, and the original dialogue. You only like the bastardization of the series that Funimation released, and you hate their fix of it which is DBZ Kai.

You're not fans at all of this series.
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>>159014723
No true DBZ fan.
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MY VOICE GIVES ME SUPER STRENGTH
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A "Freeza race"
A namekian
2 saiyan
1 mix saiyan human hybrid
2 cyborgs
3 humans
PROOF #DIVERSITYISOURSTRENGTH
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>>159009595
Speak for yourself stupid fuck. Kill yourself
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>>159014217
>Botamo had considerable power on top of his ki absorbing ability.
Sure. He was strong. But not strong enough to be a threat to Goku in base. If he were strong Goku couldn't have easily dodged Bomato's attacks, even while dragging him away.

>SSJ2.
Super Saiyan.

>He coddled that weakling.
"I'll kill your family and blow up your planet."

>Think they wouldn't force SSJ on kid trunks?
Pic related. Toriyama was never powerless against his editors, he went along with them because he thought he it would be fun.

>Explain how they were able to get SSJ3 while alive but not even Vegetta or Trunks who desperately needed it in the black arc couldn't?
Gotenks' base was stronger than Vegeta's base in the Buu saga. By Super, Vegeta has Blue. Trunks gets something stronger than 3 with Super Saiyan ANGERY. Nothing you've said disproves what I've said. Gotenks is powerful. And that's all fusion granted him.

>The only way to get stronger is to use the additive Ultra forms, or to go SSJ2 or SSJ3.
So, training the form and getting stronger with Super Saiyan. Got it.

>In base and as a SSJ.
Okay, you know what, let's play by your rules with the multiplier. Let's say that it is a x50 boost and there's nothing else to it.

Let's assume that Cabba's monkey power was 14 gorillion (a standard measurement of monkey power).
Let's assume Vegeta's monkey power was 15 gorillion.

Multiply both by 50.

Cabba comes out at 700 gorillion, but Vegeta is 750 gorillion. Vegeta's got a whole 50 more gorillions of monkey power! Quite a bit more than the difference they had in base monkey power. If even the slightest increase to Vegeta's transformed monkey power exists, that makes the gap even wider.

x51? 65 whole gorillions.
x52? 80 whole gorillions.
x54? 110 whole gorillions.

Cabba was not significantly weaker than Vegeta in base. But as a Super Saiyan, Vegeta showed himself to be stronger.
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>>159014271
Purists that want a no Super character roster have to go through mental gymnastics to accept that Golden Frieza is in the game.

The possible appearance of Hit or Goku Black or Zamasu in the game makes them want to slit their wrists.
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>>159014878
Zamasu would be a great addition with a cool moveset. Especially if you can transform into Fused.
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>>159014041
Tien is in a tournament. It's happening
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>>159014803
>Sure. He was strong. But not strong enough to be a threat to Goku in base. If he were strong Goku couldn't have easily dodged Bomato's attacks, even while dragging him away.
If he were no threat then goku would not have dodged a single attack.

>>SSJ2.
>Super Saiyan.
SSJ2

>>He coddled that weakling.
>"I'll kill your family and blow up your planet."
Being mean to make him go SSJ1 and ulitmately "train" him? Yeah. Big old meanie.

>Pic related. Toriyama was never powerless against his editors, he went along with them because he thought he it would be fun.
Dude...stop.
That is not an 8ish year old kid trunks. That is a 14 year old trunks who was probably taught how to go ssj by gohan only a few years before at best.

>Gotenks' base was stronger than Vegeta's base in the Buu saga.
Goku's base was equal to Vegeta's base. That's a bullshit excuse.
>By Super, Vegeta has Blue. Trunks gets something stronger than 3 with Super Saiyan ANGERY. Nothing you've said disproves what I've said. Gotenks is powerful. And that's all fusion granted him.
Gotenks allowed him the ability to go SSJ2 and 3.
If being relatively powerful by Cell saga was enouhg then every motherfucker in Champas universe would be SSj by accident.

>So, training the form and getting stronger with Super Saiyan. Got it.
SSJ is a multiplicative boost of your base powerlevel. Period.
The only canon no bullshit way around this. ONLY WAY around this is ultra forms and SSJ2 and SSJ3.
That's it.

>Okay, you know what, let's play by your rules with the multiplier..
>snips out a long list of stupid bullshit
Oh...you're a fucking super faggot who doesn't understand the exceedingly simple rules of DBZ powerlevels.
I thought I was discussing things with someone with an IQ above 80.

Oh god. Tell us all about how roshi tien and krillian are going to stop people who can in canon punch holes through planets and move faster then light with TECHNIQUE and EXPERIENCE!!
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>>159014636
explain how
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>>159014268
>Those games don't sell well because they are not the kinds of games that people want to play.
>DBS only games would shit the bed so hard it would be a fucking laughing stock.
Let me propose this then.

Platinum is contracted to make a game based on Hit taking assassination missions. It'd be fairly easy for them. Timeskip becomes Witch Time. Mooks can be added or made up for the game. A few boss battles against more powerful foes, be they bodyguards or the actual targets. Would this "shit the bed?"
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>>159008434
His plan is to have no one above him, and hell, no one who can control him in any way.

Mostly wondering how he's going to deal with the grand priest and Zeno. Despite being absurdly powerful, he's still not at hakaishin level, and they themselves are still far below the angels, who are apparently unable to oppose the grand priest in any way. And it's clear that the grand priest is still far below Zeno, as we can see from how he manipulates him instead of opposing him directly.
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KIERO
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>>159009153
>Goku and Frieza fight for four hours of screen time on Namek
>Knock each other out with a single punch now
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>>159015116
Why can't these threads just be fun memes and mild speculation without autistic South Americans arguing over nothing?
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>>159014041
*snicker*

Nigga, remember that ear rape fight between gohan and goku?
Remember how much fucking "technique" was displayed between tien(who couldn't even use his goddamned signature technique because gohan kept bodying him" and piccolo using that stupid attack that goku stopped in base?

Did we see piccolo and tien having a kick ass technical battle that reminded us all that they're two of the most powerful fighters in DB and both masters of their art?
FUCK NO!!
But goku and gohan glowed and had a boring battle! That was cool!


What about tiens ep where he was easily bodied with a bullshit technique from roshi...who apparently jumped up to a fucking powerlevels into the millions!
What's that? It didn't go into a kick ass battle between turtlehermit can craneschool fighters that showed us all why Roshi is a bad ass and Tien is a beast?

NOPE!!
Ended in a fucking kamehawave power battle with fucking base goku!


There is no fucking technique here.
Their endless bullshit bitching about powerlevels sucking and being bad is just them wanting to weasel out of being hafl competent writers and having people do the same things from DBZ except worse because there's no decent battles and it all comes down to budget friendly energy battles between people that shouldn't be fucking having them at all.


It's fucking bullshit.
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>>159015078
I'm already hard.
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>>159015161
Because pure autism doesn't allow one to forfeit. Example: >>159015036
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>>159009153
It astounds me that somebody put all of this effort into compiling this image but couldn't be ass to find/make screencaps at a quality above "complete garbage", and then decided to slap on a horrendous amount of jpg compression on it on top of that

remember kids, always save your shit as pngs
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>>159015078
>Platinum is contracted to make a game based on Hit taking assassination missions. It'd be fairly easy for them. Timeskip becomes Witch Time. Mooks can be added or made up for the game. A few boss battles against more powerful foes, be they bodyguards or the actual targets. Would this "shit the bed?"

Hit in the manga is an easily beaten rando mook, and hit in the anime has been depowered to the point of being a fucking joke.

His time stop power is just a shitty energy field that's weaker and more fragile then Guldo's freezing ability.

By the way, an assassin with that kind of power? The fuck does he even need to sneak around for?
Who in the fuck in his universe besides champa and vados pose any kind of threat to him?
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>>159014039
>plenty more are already presuming Black will be in as a Goku clone
What the fuck? Are those people fucking stupid?
There is no clones in a Arcsys game, it's not your shitty Tenkaichi/Xenoverse games.
If Black Goku is in the roster, then it's a different character with his own moveset.
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>>159015116
Best part of the episode DESU SENPAI

I can't wait to see Jiren and Goku fight a year from now because this arc is going to drag forever
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>>159015204
Aw, did I hurt your feelings?
Did you being exposed as an idiot upset you?
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>>159015263
>Hit in the manga is an easily beaten rando mook

Nigga, what, I just read the manga yesterday, he's as powerful as super saiyan god.
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>>159010439
Me too but damned if anyone else here actually wants to discuss anything that isn't their petty ningen tribal loathing
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I don't really understand the joy that comes from arguing with people on 4chan

You hardly ever improve your debate skills and since everyone's anonymous you don't really get the feeling of superiority you can earn by winning over family/friends
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>>159015348
>he's as powerful as super saiyan god.
he's actually even stronger if he were to actually utilise his assassin abilities unhindered.
He also dodged a full powered SSB Kamehameha
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>>159015036
>If he were no threat then goku would not have dodged a single attack.
If he were a threat to Goku, Goku would have to do more than casually drag him over to the side of the ring and toss him out.

>SSJ2
Super Saiyan.

>Being mean to make him go SSJ1 and ulitmately "train" him? Yeah. Big old meanie.
And beating him senseless is just how he shows he cares, right?

>That is not an 8ish year old kid trunks.
But it is a Trunks that went Super Saiyan fairly early, fairly young. Fairly powerful.

>Goku's base was equal to Vegeta's base. That's a bullshit excuse.
Only after Babidi gave him a bit of a boost. Vegeta had Super Saiyan 2, but was weaker than Goku before it and even spelled it out to him. Majin Vegeta was around for a grand total of what, 20 minutes? And he had a body after dying for a couple hours tops. Not really much time to try and learn it, especially if he only knew it existed after dying. He went past SS3 tier in BoG with ANGERY, too. Nobody in U6 had seen Super Saiyan, but those that did were able to tap into it fairly easily relative to U7.

>exceedingly simple rules of DBZ powerlevels.
Higher numbers are stronger numbers. Vegeta has slightly more monkey power in base, but that translates to substantially more monkey power with your multipliers.

>roshi tien and krillian are going to stop people who can in canon punch holes through planets
Roshi is probably as strong as that Jackie Chun guy now. Jackie Chun could blow up moons! Lighten up, god.
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>>159015361
I just pretend everyone's AI that says random shit tailored to my browsing habits.
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>>159015361
It's pretty empty. Whenever someone actually loses an argument, they can just stop responding and blend back into the thread.
No one can truly change anyone's mind in a 4chan thread, you can only yell about how right you are.
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>>159015307
Let's be real here. The start of the tournament is going to be a very VERY quick destruction of the other teams, until there's like 10 people left with half the tournament to go.
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>>159015078
>Platinum is contracted to make a game based on Hit taking assassination missions.
WHY DO I WANT THIS SO BAD NOW
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>>159015361
Same. I only come here to funpost, not to argue with strangers. And even on the very rare occasions when I decide to discuss something, I always get bored of it and drop the subject.
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>>159015435
It won't be that quick.
>>159015442
Because he said Platinum.
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>>159015263
And none of what you just said equates to it "shitting the bed." Aside from making factually wrong assumptions on power, you've just complained about things irrelevant to how it would function as a game.
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>>159015458
I only get bored and drop it because like 2 people respond to a neat idea while it drowns in a fucking cascading waterfall of cuck shill cuck shill cuck shill cuck shill pedro pedro toei toyo toei toyo cuck shill pedro cuck shill toyo rubber HAKAI
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>>159015458
I come here specifically to talk about how much fun I have watching this fun cartoon, and when someone else starts I also talk about how attractive these male aliens are and how much of a slut Freiza is in this arc
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>>159015502
I unironically like SS4. It was a creative powerup instead of just yelling louder and reincorporated the forgotten monkey aspect of the Saiyans.
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>>159009320
so how lonh is that in the chamber?
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>>159014191
There is no way 17 could job to Kahseral, and I doubt Gohan is strong enough to finish off even a weakened Toppo.
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>>159015361
>he thinks those autists have friends to discuss things with them
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>>159015553
I did too. It just needed a better palette, and a better fashion designer. Broly actually sells it pretty well there despite no tail and tardhair.
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>>159015410
>If he were a threat to Goku, Goku would have to do more than casually drag him over to the side of the ring and toss him out.
He's powerful but he's a lazy fat ass that isn't very mobile.

>Super Saiyan.
SSJ2

ulitmately "train" him? Yeah. Big old meanie.
>And beating him senseless is just how he shows he cares, right?
Yes you stupid bastard. That's how Vegeta is.

>But it is a Trunks that went Super Saiyan fairly early, fairly young. Fairly powerful.
Uh uh.
If it was a matter of power levels then trunks should have had it at the exact same fucking age. He didn't. They aren't even the same fucking height despite being the same age.

>Only after Babidi gave him a bit of a boost. Vegeta had Super Saiyan 2, but was weaker than Goku before it and even spelled it out to him.
Base Vegeta was equal to Base Goku BUT he didn't have SSJ2. That's why he let himself be stamped.
>Majin Vegeta was around for a grand total of what, 20 minutes..
Uh uh fag.
Gotenks has fucking SSJ3 as a living being and didn't need to be dead. Vegeta should have at least had SSJ2. He didn't. He should have SSJ3 in the post Buu world. He still does not.
SSJ RAGE is just the Toei people being fucking cheap faggots and not wanting to make a new CG model. that's it.

>Higher numbers are stronger numbers...
Yes.
And the only way to get higher monkey power with those multipliers is to train base, use ultra forms to some level, or use a new grade/form. That's it. You can't just get a whole new multiplicative form for the different grades. That's not how it is or has ever fucking worked.

>Roshi is probably as strong as that Jackie Chun guy now. Jackie Chun could blow up moons! Lighten up, god.
*AUTISTIC SCREECH*
Get it?
People like me don't want their failed attempts and being comedic or entertaining. We want half decent fights and partially thought out story lines.
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>>159015410
>>159015036
>>159014803
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>>159013815
>>159013264
>>159012513
>>159011934
>>159011521
>>159011064
>>159010834
>>159010655
nigga, just go and pull up the anime episode, and screencap if we had the electrical arcs or not.

Also, in the manga, which I assume is more canon, vegeta never even found magetta anyways
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>>159015500
>factually wrong assumptions on power,
Hit is the most powerful mortal in his universe without using his bullshit borked killing techniques(which were nerfed to shit) or severely nerfed time stop ability.

It is also factually WEAKER then Guldo's ability which we can assume can be enhanced by the person who has it training more and not stopped unless he breathes or is killed.
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>>159015613
>Vegeta should have at least had SSJ2. He didn't.
nigger you what
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>>159015690
He didn't have SSJ2 till he got Babidi's tramp stamp on his fucking forehead.

In base he was Goku's exact fucking equal if not slightly stronger.

His SSJ2 would have been enough to mop the floor with Goku's SSj2 if that were the case.

So why did he let himself get fucking stamped?
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>>159015661
He didn't have the sparks. Super Saiyan.
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Caulifla is gonna be goku's new wife mark my words
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>>159015970
No. She can be his concubine.
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>>159015613
>He's powerful but he's a lazy fat ass that isn't very mobile.
And not as strong as base Goku.

>If it was a matter of power levels then trunks should have had it at the exact same fucking age. He didn't.
Was teen Future Trunks as strong as Buu kid Trunks? Who got more training from Vegeta? You, by your own admission, stated that he shows affection through beating.

>Base Vegeta was equal to Base Goku BUT he didn't have SSJ2. That's why he let himself be stamped.
This is literally, factually wrong. Vegeta is not especially impressed that Goku has Super Saiyan 2 and makes a comment regarding how he has the form already. But he did note he was weaker than Goku overall. Babidi boosted him up to Goku's level. Their bases weren't tied. That's what made him angry.

>Gotenks has fucking SSJ3 as a living being and didn't need to be dead.
Because Gotenks is stronger than Vegeta and Goku. Gotenks could handle Super Buu, Goku couldn't.

>Yes.
And any slight differences, ones that might make them more equal in base, get exacerbated with multipliers.

>*AUTISTIC SCREECH*
Class act, anon. But don't worry, we'll cut away to Yamcha and the Pilaf gang taking care of baby Bra while the Tournament is ongoing.

>>159015780
There you have it. No sparks, no 2.
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>>159016028
>>159016028
>>159016028
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Terrible lack of Kaioshin being bullied or just being pussy boy in general.
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>>159010064
Purple Freeza and Blue Freesa are going to fight each other but Purple is really going to be teaching blue to turn gold
Then when Blue turns gold he will just let him run out of stamina
now its getting close to the final people and blue freeza is still a fresh fighter
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>>159015578
>No way 17 can job to Kahseral
>The General that Toppo was adamant on recruiting. Toppo who is SSB+ tier
>Doubts Gohan can finish off a weakened Toppo
>Gohan who has been foreshadowed as unlocking something beyond Mystic and is currently SSJ2+ Goku tier

okay
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>>159016031
>And not as strong as base Goku.
That's wrong.

>Was teen Future Trunks as strong as Buu kid Trunks? Who got more training from Vegeta? You, by your own admission, stated that he shows affection through beating.
The shit?
Look they're different because trunks was born when vegeta was stronger and had access to a better life then future trunks. And Gohan trained both trunks for longer then vegeta has.
I reiterate. Vegeta was going soft on that wimp.

>This is literally, factually wrong. Vegeta is not especially impressed that Goku has Super Saiyan 2 and makes a comment regarding how he has the form already. But he did note he was weaker than Goku overall. Babidi boosted him up to Goku's level. Their bases weren't tied. That's what made him angry.
He's pissed that Goku has SSJ2 not that he's stronger. They're equal.

>Because Gotenks is stronger than Vegeta and Goku. Gotenks could handle Super Buu, Goku couldn't.
Then why did Goku have SSJ3 if all it takes is being as strong as Gotenks?
Why didn't Vegeta get SSJ1 easily even though his base was far stronger then goku's base on namek?

>And any slight differences, ones that might make them more equal in base, get exacerbated with multipliers.
K.
Anyway, Vegeta's base was strong enough to body cabba's ssj1. And since you were so adamant that cabba was equal to vegeta in power then their SSJ forms should be roughly equal as well.

>>*AUTISTIC SCREECH*
>Class act, anon. But don't worry, we'll cut away to Yamcha and the Pilaf gang taking care of baby Bra while the Tournament is ongoing.
Not watching this clusterfuck. Just catching highlights on 4chan and youtube. I'm deeply dissapointed so far.


PS Gohan, when he fought dabura, didn't have any sparks or lighting.
Was he in SSJ1 form?
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>>159016250
Even in a dying thread you have to have the last argument, don't you, you self-admitted autist?
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>>159016373
I actually like DB and honestly no one else in my life likes it this much. Yeah I can be "autistic" about it. What of it.

You on the other hand have been arguing with me this entire time to prove you're right with half assed understanding of the source material.

What does that make you?
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>>159016250
>That's wrong.
You've done nothing to show otherwise.

>trunks was born when vegeta was stronger
Vegeta and Future Vegeta weren't very different when they made Trunks. But Future Trunks didn't have a Vegeta, he had a Gohan weaker than 17 and 18.

>He's pissed that Goku has SSJ2 not that he's stronger. They're equal.
They're not equal, Vegeta's closer to Gohan's strength than he is Goku's. Vegeta already had Super Saiyan 2, but he admitted to Goku that Goku was still stronger. So Vegeta made the deal with Babidi.

>Then why did Goku have SSJ3 if all it takes is being as strong as Gotenks?
Goku trained for years to get Super Saiyan 3. Gotenks, being stronger than Goku, trained for less than a week and got it.

>Why didn't Vegeta get SSJ1 easily even though his base was far stronger then goku's base on namek?
Goku was stronger than Vegeta on Namek. He was at least 3 gorillions. Vegeta was like 1 gorillion.

>Anyway, Vegeta's base was strong enough to body cabba's ssj1.
Based on nothing.
>And since you were so adamant that cabba was equal to vegeta in power then their SSJ forms should be roughly equal as well.
Going by your multiplier, any slight differences become huge ones.

>PS Gohan, when he fought dabura, didn't have any sparks or lighting.
Super has sparks. Vegeta, Goku, Trunks, Gohan, even Caulifla now.

>>159016489
He's not me, but damn, dude. Go outside.
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>>159009714
Gohan to replace Kaioshin and Freeza to replace GoD
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>>159008754
is fusion allowed in the tournament?
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>>159015755
because he wanted the evil in his heart to stop himself from caring about Bulma and Trunks. Did you even watch the episode
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>>159011250
she's not Cau
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>>159014796
almost all white
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>>159009721
What if Jiren or any one in universe 11 isn't the one who Beerus claimed is even stronger than his/her universe's God.
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>>159009567
It's cool but it won't exactly matter since everyone's a gangster. Gohan gets earths gravity and idk freezas planet. Everyone else is an earthling.
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>get resurrected
>become god of destruction (either by killing Beerus or one of the gods that sent assassins)
>kill everyone that pissed him off

pretty easy to follow
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>>159013089
I can't stop laughing
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