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I can't believe Mine fucking killed Tsuchinoko.
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>>158999966
I can't believe Mine has figs of those Friends. I wonder if they are tests for full releases.
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I'd like to introduce you all to my wife, Jaguar!
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lalalala lalalala
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>>159000219
You have a very attractive wife, Otter.
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*Blocks your path*

What do you do?
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>>159000234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Av3Dq9xZ0

I can only think of this version anymore
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>>159000364
I need to rewatch Kemono Friends. I completely forgot in just lurking these threads how good it is.
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>>159000325
Toss out a volume of Prince of Tennis. Lion and Moose will be distracted by hot blooded shouting, Wolf will be absorbed in studying it, and Jaguar will be too deep in the wakaran of why the one guy's serve killed the dinosaurs.
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>>159000325
Close my eyes and beg for them to be gentle.
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>>159000325
Moose is pretty strong for a vegan Friend
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>>159000698
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho8o92Ro-Ig
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>>159000491
Is this a Jag thread now?
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Hululu stays with Grape-jiisan!
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>>159000761
Is that confirmed?
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>>159000761
Will Grape end up like the one Andrew Blaze guy and kill a few other animals then himself to join his waifu Friend Squad?
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>>159000805
以降も、ペンギン舎への設置を継続します。
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>>159000938
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>>159000431
is that blood coming out of her head in the last panel? oh dear
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>>159001225
It's glow streaks from her hood eyes
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>>159001225
Blood is bright pink Anon
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>>159001318
You've been playing too much Danganronpa.
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>>158982628
The story there is that it is Aya Uchida's (Kaban's VAs) first live performance since having the surgery last year. She had the surgery at the end of last year.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-23/love-live-voice-actress-aya-uchida-recovers-after-vocal-cord-surgery/

Maybe this means she might now participate in future Kemono Friends live performances.
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>>159001437
So will Aya Uchida still be doing Love-Live concerts while also doing KF concerts at the same time? Seems like a whole lot of work for just one idol, especially after getting surgery on her vocal cord.
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>>159001411
No, never
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>>159001542
Dunno doubt she would do all of them but it at least means there is an actual possibility of her doing them or one sometimes now. It also gives an explanation as to why she wasn't doing any of it before besides just being busy. I assume after having surgery on your vocal chords as a singer you need to do a lot of training and try to get the same voice back and rest a lot.
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>>159000761

This is the only thing I'm interested in from this show. "The ongoing saga of Grape and his waifu"
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>>159001680
The Zoo is keeping the Hululu cut out indefinitely. The end. See
>>159001057
and
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-06-26/zoo-ends-1st-kemono-friends-campaign-but-grape-kun-and-humboldt-are-forever/.118007
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>>159001674
The margay cat is a very special, special cat.
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>>159001674
For some reason I read this in a certain politician's voice
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>>159001906
Ron Paul?
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>>159001755

Or so we thought :(
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>>159001542
>So will Aya Uchida still be doing Love-Live concerts
μ's is on hiatus, There have been no concerts since the final live
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>>159001674
>they're very much smaller than man people's house cats
Huh.
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>>159001906
Probably the "let me tell you about" and the simple language.

I quite like her redesign.
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>>159002064
I want to marry both foxes
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>>159002084
anon you did it again.
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>>159000014
There were already ads for it, so it's the test figurines before they are ready to be sold
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>>159002084
>>159002122
Yep.
It was a poor shot anyways.
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Hai douzou!
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GrapexHululu
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>>159002163
fan version of jaguar is my favorite
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Moose Beetle and Moderate-sized Plains Striped Bug
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>>159002148
There's been ads for other characters nendos? Must have missed that.
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>>159002042
Last I heard m's voice actresses had been released from their contracts
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>>159002209
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>>159002156
She's wearing a uniform of some kind.
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>>159001674
Wait they actually posted the whole interviews they did with all those zookeepers/animal sanctuary caretakers?
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Which of these sea otters was evil again? Or was it both?

I have to eat so not taking pics of all of them this time at least not yet
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>>159002263
yeah but some them said they were on hiatus, maybe they're wanting for something, if the nips dont change their mind after sunshine s2 theyll have to do something
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>>159002078
Margays have really big, soft paws and large, beady black eyes.
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Jaguar is a spicy gal.
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>>159002521
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>>159002558
>they fall asleep hugging for warmth in the nude in a snowhut during a blizzard
RIP, but really cute. Otter has a really good friend in Jaguar.
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>>159002479
>that sad face
Margay was the real Tsurai-san all along.
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>>159002591
You'd be sad too if you were endangered. Have a happier Margay.
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>>159001674
So, KF just cut the more informative parts of the interview for show, causing people here to accuse Sharon of telling little about margay? Must be tough for her if she browses 4chan and reads comments that belittle her knowledge.
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>>159001674
Why is there only one 特別?
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>>159002644
I'm going to go out on a limb and say she doesn't. Also, I really didn't see many people criticizing her
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I want Margay to get the D and see how Margay she is after that.
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Did you know that Sandcat is a fearless predator of snakes? They devour venomous vipers and other small prey and will hunt down and eat just about anything smaller than it. They can live without drinking water for weeks at a time and instead get their moisture from the blood of their prey. They stick close to the ground and use their enhanced hearing to locate their prey beneath the earth, and dig them up with quick speed to expose, capture and devour their prey. Sometimes, they'll even rebury their kill and return later to eat.
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>>159002821
Sadly there's not a D on the entire island.
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>>159002821
She'll be a fujoshit.
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>>159002486
>>159002521
>>159002558
Could someone post a translation please?
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A serval cat, eating an unripe banana, yet apparently enjoying it.
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>>159002986
Serval cats in captivity eat them apparently.
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>>159003075
What a mysterious animal
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>>159002479
Indeed, Margay is a very cute, cute cat.
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>>159003201
That's an odd expression
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>>159002842
scary
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>>159003093
Chi ~yu ~ru Chi ~yu ~ru
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>>159003290
i would say she is watching something whose progression she is pleased with. perhaps a new dance routine.
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>>159000325
Pull down my shorts, lower my head and avoid eye contact. They'll think I mean no harm because I have a tail between my legs.
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>>159003337
To me it looks like she's trying to ignore something embarrassing happening off to her side.
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>>159003290
Is this expression any better?
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>>159003371
How do they stay in sync. It's like they're one brain occupying two bodies, almost.
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>>159003390
I'll allow it
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Wonder if all Owl friends act that way.
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>>159003290
Maybe that's her 'idol audition' face. She's manager after all.
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>>159003385
Hululu and Emperor really should get a room.

>>159003526
Assistant just repeats what Hakase says.
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>>159003896
I get the impression Otter pulls this stunt regularly.
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>>159003896
たのし でしょう!
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>>159002986
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>>159005274
Thiccfags are the new furries.
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>>159005249
I want to hug that devil.
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>>159005249
I wonder if they touched up the uncolored crowds too? Although I guess that's more unlikely.
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>>159002842
She must enjoy playing Hunter & Prey with Tsuchinoko only to get bored in mere minutes
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Well, I just finished watching this series for the first time, and it really pulled itself together at the end after having Berserk tier animation in Episode 1, I'm glad I stuck on for the long haul.

Questions though:

1. Is Kaban basically kid Mirai since the hair in the hat at the end was hers?

2.Did Serval get eaten by a Cerulean before and that's why she didn't remember Mirai?

3. Was the Black Cerulean the sole reason why they needed to close the park in the past? They were able to defeat it present day so I'm kind surprised they were not able to kill it back then when they had Mirai who actually knew better then amnesiac Kaban.

4. Is Japari Park just that one island? Lucky said before the other islands could have Friends on them too, so is it actually a collection of islands? If so, maybe we'll face the Cerulean King or something on the next island.
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>>159005589
1. Kaban is a Human Friend created from Mirai's hair. I guess you could say she's Mirai's daughter, arguably.
2. We just don't know.
3. We just don't know. The Black Cerulean may have been a small fragment of whatever it was that was terrorizing the park. We don't know its relationship to the Cerulean Queen either.
4. Japari Park is a series of islands. The Cerulean Queen is already dead, but Cerval was said to have built a house and is visited by Friends who seek her knowledge. No idea if there is a Cerulean King though. The Cerulean Queen was born from Kako's sparkle being stolen I think, so if there is a king it'd be from Mirai's sparkle being stolen, maybe.
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>>159005589
1. Yes
2. Yes.
3. No. It was the Queen Incident. Something something read the pastebin.
4. Did you watch the end of the last episode? Boss clearly explains that Gokoku Area is another jurisdiction of Japari Park.
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>>159004801
Dat ZR.
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>>159005249
Dat Australian devil expression.
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>>159005589
The animation didn't improve particularly at all from the 1st episode besides a few fixes like the bus wheels turning in the OP. There was just one particularly awkward scene in the beginning with the running.

It just becomes less of an issue as you continue watching and start to understand what the show is going for and get drawn into the characters and mystery itself.

1. Just a human friend formed from Mirai's hair.
2. Not really entirely clear, there is speculation based around that and it is a possibility but don't know exactly.
3. There is all sorts of speculation around what happened based on alternative tellings of the story in other media and the guidebooks but the answer is we don't know actually know for certain exactly what has happened in the past.
4. Multiple islands.
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Were these lines ever explained?
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>>159005929
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>>159001906
These cats are tremendous, folks.
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>>159005961
Something vague and important in the basement? Never seen that in an anime before.
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>>159005929
what's to explain?

drop a polar bear into death valley and see how it does
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>>159005961
The way CR translated that was really misleading but assuming they don't have any further knowledge of the episodes they couldn't have known what it was really referencing.
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>>159005249
I want to hug a jag.
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>>159005929
If Serval would live in the desert or snow, she'll die because she's not accustomed to those kinds of weather.

>>159005961
Referring to the 4 god plate since some of them are buried on the ground.
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>>159005589
>3. Was the Black Cerulean the sole reason why they needed to close the park in the past? They were able to defeat it present day so I'm kind surprised they were not able to kill it back then when they had Mirai who actually knew better then amnesiac Kaban.

They beat it in part because the Friends were kind of familiar with it already. Brown Bear and her hunters had learned about the Ceruleans and how to fight them. Tsuchinoko knew that pouring water on it would cause it to harden like lava. That kind of thing.
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>>159006018
They made it sound like Serval was slowly dying from being away from the savanna.
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>>159006018
In retrospect after watching the series most assume that scene was supposed to be referencing the tablets of the four gods which were buried beneath ground. The way it was translated in that line just makes it sound like an underground complex or something. Without full context though it can be hard to know how to translate some lines properly and you just have to assume what the original author was going for.
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>>159005929
Not tofu. Just basic knowledge that animals live in environments that are best suited for them (except humans which adapt their environments to themselves). Unlikely to have a significant impact on Friends.
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>>159006098
>Tsuchinoko knew that pouring water on it would cause it to harden like lava. That kind of thing.
>All of the maze area is covered by that crap

Did Tsuchinoko just go crazy and kill a bunch of those things by herself in her own domain? Bitch is hardcore.
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>>159003290
and IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
will always
love YOUUUUUU-HOO-OOO-HOO-OOO
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>>159006168
I think thats the one the hunters talked about.
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DOUBLE DEVIL
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>>159006168
She seemed surprised that there was lava rock blocking the exit. So if that's the case then she didn't tell Serval and Kaban for some reason, which wouldn't be unlike her, after all.

I think it's heavily implied that this was the site that at least one of the big dogs was defeated. At the end of Episode 12 someone remarks that the fact that it turned into lava rock explains why that's found all over the island.

You also see other things like the destroyed bridge with a Japari Bus on either side. I think that was possibly the outcome of a high-speed chase or something.
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>>159006104
At this point Serval has bonded enough with Bag that she'd probably be worse off separated, servals don't handle separation well.
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>>159006237
I think they should just leave the backstory stuff just vague and mysterious forever like it is now. The whole thing seems like it could become a convoluted mess quite easily unless they just ignore the media timelines for the other parts of the franchise and have similar events like they have hinted at in the guidebooks with things like the Owl's speculating about Serval generations they don't know about in universe, and showing concept designs for Cerulean's and the four Gods and so on.

Having an open Japari Park with Mirai in a position of power in the manga. Having Mirai being a rookie leading Friends against the Cerulean Queen in the game. Having Mirai lead a team by helicopter to save Japari Park in the anime. Then fitting all that with the Friends there having no real knowledge of humans at all besides vague legends and all the damage to the park. It is just too much to fit together consistently.
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>>159006427
>Having Mirai lead a team by helicopter to save Japari Park in the anime.
That's Kaban's job. Frankly I want to avoid any human-ex-machina ending where all the staff return to solve all the problems.
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>>159006580
I mean that is what Mirai is described as doing in the anime isn't it? She shows up from the sky and they thought she was an alien? I always assumed that was a helicopter with her team and equipment rather than just parachuting in.

Also I think its interesting that the guidebooks never really present anything as being absolutely factual to the TV series as such. They show concept designs which clearly aren't part of the show, then explain certain functions/mechanics like Kemonoplasm, then have Owl's literally speculating about Serval generations, then talk about things like whole varieties of Ceruleans and the Cerulean Queen.

It's almost as if what they are doing with the guidebooks is just throwing out a whole load of lore that is associated with the series without confirming anything as fact to give people speculation fuel without committing to anything as fact. Then if anything seems particularly popular it might be a direction in which they can develop the next season of the show.
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>>159006237
>>159006168
Tsuchinoko must have discovered at some point between her episode and the finale where the lava rock came from since there are no volcanoes in that area.
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Does Tsuchinoko even exist? I thought it was just a legend.
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>>159006639
Kemonoplasm fits into the show just fine, though.
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>>159006742
The back hills are crawling with them.
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>>159006742
No. It's a cryptid like Nessie and Bigfoot. The guy who did the eyecatch on Tsuchinoko is just delusional.
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>>159006745
Exactly, there is stuff there that has no basis in the show presented dryly, stuff that has basis in the show presented as unconfirmed speculation, stuff that has basis in the show but isn't explained in the show explained in there, then stuff that seems different to the show just presented dryly too. It's all just mixed in with nothing being entirely clearly signposted to differentiate the parts that should be taken as canon fact, are just ideas, are discarded concepts and so on. It seems to be intentionally confusing so that you can't be entirely 100% sure exactly what should be taken as factual to the TV universe and what shouldn't.
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>>159006217
>tears
>smug
?
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>>159002225
Sugoi
Mushi Friends when
Bug girl anime with a cameo by cockroach girl when
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>>159007087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yq058b5VIE
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Crested Ibis version of OP when?
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>>159007230
Never, she can't sing.
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I need more videos of Bossu dancing.
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If the Lucky Beasts don't talk to the Friends, how do they even know they are the 'Bosses' of the park?
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>>159007464
other friends told them
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>>159007464
Even animals know that those who control resources have the power.
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>>159005589
Mirai's Serval had a different VA
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>>159005249
Bunch of cuties.
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I agreed to take my nieces to the zoo next week. I wish they would have events here in the states...
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>>159007551
Such is nature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI307EWVtNc
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Memes aside, is Tsuchinoko the smartest Friend in the show?

She seems like the most intelligent one to me, just as smart as Kaban and maybe even smarter than her. She knows about archaeology and is actively researching the park to learn more about it.
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>>159007744
She's smart and cute and leggy and has soft hair and is clingy towards people she likes
She is a precious treasure
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>>159007464
They make and distribute Japari Buns
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>>159007744
She is as smart as the owls and also this >>159007780
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>>159006264
Well, that explains why Serval followed Kaban without hesitation in episodes 1 and 12.
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>>159000325
Throw food and run like hell.
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>>159007907
I want to be tsuchinoko's friend and have her confuse my friendly affection for attraction and then willfully reciprocate her feelings
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>>159007828
>They have a directive not to mess with the ecosystem
>They give them a different food other than their natural diet, therefore messing with the ecosystem.

Mirai's not a good AI developer, huh?
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>>159006742
>>159006905
Maybe it was just a snake that ate something too big for it's body and people thought it was a species.
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>>159008000
Friends have human digestive systems, so they can't necessarily eat their original diets. Thus the Lucky Beasts prepare the buns despite them originally being only for human visitors.
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>>159008038
Most likely. Same thing with Skyfish being bugs that move too fast for camera exposure speeds.
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>>159008000
But that is the normal ecosystem of a friend
Otherwise you'd have friend cannibalism
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>>159007987
I would probably lose control and touch her legs, so she would know right away how i feel.
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>>159007744
She's so cute
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>>159008126
>I would probably lose control and touch her legs
Everyone would.
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What if The new generation of the Cerulean Threat is led by Cerval who turned evil by giving into her Cerulean side?
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>>159006264
Are irl serval cats like that with their owners?
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>>159008303
I hear they get super depressed if you separate them from their favorite human.
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Early attempts to breed Tasmanian devils in captivity had limited success. The animal activist Mary Roberts, who was known for her work in presenting a less hostile image of the devil to the public and wrote about it in academic journals,[159] bred a pair at Beaumaris Zoo which she named Billy and Truganini in 1913. However, although advised to remove Billy, Roberts found Truganini too distressed by his absence, and returned him. The first litter was presumed eaten by Billy, but a second litter in 1914 survived after Billy was removed.
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I can't believe Serval is a fucking puppet.
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>>159008556
> devils eat their own babies
Fucking cannibals.
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I can't believe Serval made a deal with a evil wizard for the power to defeat any Cerulean!
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>>159000325
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>>159008760
That looks cute in a weird way.
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>>159001437
>Maybe this means she might now participate in future Kemono Friends live performances.

She's going to be performing at a concert in September.
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>>159009311
Cute lewd Rocker.
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>>159009311
Cute as fuck.
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>>159009311
Promoting the upcoming orchestra concert, I assume?
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>>159009311
I appreciate that the dumbest ones get the simplest instruments.
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>>159007744
Giant Penguin seems to be pretty intelligent as well.
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>>159009713
> implying Hululu isn't merely pretending
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>>159009621
Yes. https://twitter.com/kemo_anime/status/879534816034729984
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>>159007210
I like this a lot.
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>>159009679
/g/ is known for their desire to install penguins.
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>>159000219
Why would you like a very confused girl as a wife?

Just kidding, happy honeymoon
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>>159000325
Pat her mane.
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>>159006639
>Also I think its interesting that the guidebooks never really present anything as being absolutely factual to the TV series as such. They show concept designs which clearly aren't part of the show, then explain certain functions/mechanics like Kemonoplasm, then have Owl's literally speculating about Serval generations, then talk about things like whole varieties of Ceruleans and the Cerulean Queen.

The Kemonoplasm section was actually presented as Kako's research notes. I think that might be the same for other pieces of guidebook tofu as well.
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>>159002644
A few anons questioned if she was a real zookeeper. But most just made fun of her autism. The full interview doesn't change that.

She still didn't mention the mimicry.
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>>159008707
Japari park Staff had seen this mysterious creature numerous time before the incident of [Unknow monsters] (may be refer to Cerulean?)
Every time when this creature appeared, animal related research will succeed, thus they call it [Animal of fortune] (Lucky Beast)
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>>159009311
>Boss is conducting
>he doesn't have arms
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>>159000733
oh FUCK
where is its tail
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>>159010378
I'm sure he can use his tail.
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>>159002019
She'll be back, anon, don't worry
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>>159010378
He's just that good.
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>>159002156
Damn, she's cute!
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>>159006217
Pouch mammals are cute
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>>159010657
This image actually makes me sad
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>>159009100
Man I was all about this movie as a kid, made me totally fascinated in robotics and also somewhat mildly horrified at the consequences of instilling sentience into created beings.
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>>159005589
1. No. Kaban is a human Friend. Please understand what that means.

2. We don't know how much time has passed since the days of Mirai and her Serval, but most signs point to a lot. After being eaten by a cerulean, animals go back to how old they were before becoming Friends so it's possible they're the same serval, or some sort of closely related serval, but there's still the problem of the time gap, and the fact that we don't know if the same serval should have the same voice.

3. The park was still evacuated due to safety precautions. And we don't know the sate humanity is in currently.

4. Yes, there are several islands. Kaban saw this in ep 11, and we see it again at the end of ep 12. I hope you watched past the credits.
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>>159010562
I believe in Tatsuki.
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>>159010657
>>159010800
For the love of god someone please just do a followup image where she gets to keep the hand warmer.
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>>159007393
better animation than the show desu
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bossu is for sexual
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>>159011088
awawawawa
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>>159000325
say what you will lads but this was easily the most scene in the whole show and made it worth watching for me
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>>159011222
most badass scene*
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>>159000625
There's No Way a Post Can be this Underrated!
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>>159011222
I liked how she started off with her goofy voice and then went a few octaves down as she made good on her threat.
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>>159003526
It is simple for Friends as wise as they. Very very simple.
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Wise cream
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>>159005929
Serval would've frozen to death in the arctic zone if it wasn't for Kaban
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>>159011692
owls are NOT for licking
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Feed the Friends
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>>159011725
Can I eat them instead, then?
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>>159011692
very wise
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I'm surprised to find out Passenger Pigeon Friend exists but as a dead Friend.
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>>159002842
Cool! Creatures that are as deadly as they are cute has a special place in my heart.
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>>159000431
Rolling girl Tsuchinoko when?
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>>159006742
>>159006893
This, they're pretty much everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJfIjBKcpM
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>>159011999
Damn Australia.
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>>159011999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_-ArZexaMM

is this Tsuchinoko?
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>>159002842
>>159005492
>>159011529
Best Friends forever.
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>>159006742
>tfw had to look up what the fuck this is while watching
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>>159009311
I love Fennec playing the clarinet
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>>159011938
>4 billion wiped out in 30 years
I wonder what she thinks of Americans
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>>159012168
Yes.
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>>159011938
Out of all birds in North America, they had to hunt fucking pigeons.
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>>159012609
that is a cute tsuchinoko
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>>159007551
>>159007734
Rules of nature, as it were.
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>>159012670
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>>159009761
When she can actually talk between her bursts of uncontrollable XIXIXI's, sure.
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>XIXIXI
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>>159013186
I make fun of her, but her laugh is adorable, in that "wow, my older sister is smarter than I thought!" kinda way. Her "nyaruhodo" always kills me.
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>>159013186
>>159013429
I don't mean to be rude to a friend, but I don't like looking at her.
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>>159013186
a n a l
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>>159013475
Anon intimidated by forehead.
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>>159013186
Can I get a link to the audio drama and the translation?
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>>159010378
Ears and tail, man. That's all you need.
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>>159013186
>>159013613
Best penguin. Her design is perfect.
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>>159013644
>>159013613
>>159013186
will she appear in s2? I need some smug
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>>159013616
I would if i had it.
>>159013644
>>159013713
I hope she show up with Adelie and Chinstrap.
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Any sale stats on BD4 yet?
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>>159013475
Some people I will never understand.

>>159013616
https://mega.nz/#F!RZBgEIBY!_GxR9kjRiX_aUTxAg3nQiA

Here, catch. I'm not sure if you can see anything else other than the Drama CD, but don't touch anything else if you could!
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>>159013884
It flopped.
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>>159013935
that's not a stat
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>>159013884
4 units sold. Half of those were eventually returned and refunded.
All remaining copies were destroyed publicly out of shame and Tatsuki will be livestreaming his suicide tomorrow. Kemono Friends is over.
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>>159013969
that's not the proper way to post stats.
a source link must be provided, thank you.
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>>159013969
For a moment I tried to imagine a world where KF was a commercial failure.

It's very difficult.
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>>159013429
>nyaruhodo
I literally say this.

well I'm in japan though so I can get away with it but
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>>159014147
Well, stop. It's dumb and weird unless you're a cute girl. Which you probably aren't.
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>>159014177
I'll do what I want
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>>159013896
That isn't the full cd you know.
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>>159013884
Penguins from zoos all over Japan wanted to support Grape-kun and bought as many BDs as they could, but it turns out that fish aren't a valid form of currency so they were all returned.
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>>159014177
Maybe that anon is a cat. An actual cat.
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>>159014227
Pretty sure it is. Unless you're looking for the OST? The two are separate.

>>159014295
Possibly. Well, then nya away.
>>159014199
You do you. I'm just concerned about your welfare and dignity.
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>>159014227
Wow, you're right. Where are the bonus tracks?
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>>159014319
The physical cd has 11 tracks. It has Toki and Kaban and Sunaneko singing from the show.
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>>159014365
It's on the usual places isn't it? You just have to search the Japanese name.
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Can anybody find the pastebin that translates the CD Drama?
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>>159000219
This man lies! Jaguar is my wife!
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>>159013429
>>159014147
When does she say this? I listened to the entire audio drama, and she says naruhodo exactly once and it doesn't have much inflection on it.
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>>159013644
It's true. Giant pengi is a miracle.
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>>159014464
https://pastebin.com/CrKgnTA5
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WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN TO THIS SOONER
TRACK 01 IS 11/10
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>>159014706
Are you okay?
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>>159014799
happy meal
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>>159015067
Which one, /a/?
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>>159015101
left
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>>159015101
Left, please. She looks incredibly sweet.
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>>159015101
Left just narrowly.
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>>159015101
Marry Oryx, fuck Aurochs.
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>>159015248
>Marry Oryx, fuck Aurochs.
Lion would split you in half if she found out, you...
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>>159015153
A gazelle is fine too.
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>>159000268
Someone remembered that friends don't wear panties. Makes marking territory all that much easier.
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>>159007120
Surprised there hasn't been a Kemono Friends rip-off featuring bug girls instead of the vertebrate girls yet.
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>>159015456
It's been less than half a year since the show exploded, anon.
Even the idea thieves need some time to make their stuff.
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>>159015284
I'll challenge Lion over her harem, and cheat by using catnip.
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https://www.bushiroadgrandfest.com/guests

Not sure if any Kemono Friends seiyuu will be at Anime Expo, but Rockhopper and Ezo Red Fox VAs will be in California this weekend.
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>>
These threads a very good safe haven from summer /a/. It just needs more Grey Wolf.
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>>159015762
Yo this shit cute I feel like I can get behind this. What this called?
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>>159015456
watashi wa ookamakiri
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>>159015456
I wouldn't mind
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Butterfly friend!
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>>159015914
What exactly am I looking at here...?
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>>159015948
Wasp friend walked into the wrong colony and will now be cooked to death!
I'm not kidding.
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>>159014573
Thank you!
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>>159005754
>2. Yes.
No, they're not the same serval. If they were they wouldn't have two different voice actresses.
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>>159016188
It's not uncommon for different personalities to be expressed with different voices, as far as I know, and it being the same cat means her crying at the end makes a bit more sense.
I wonder if BD5's tofu will be about what exactly happens when Friends get Cerulean'd and then Sandstar'd again.
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Wew
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>>159015948
This video shall explain it for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5QxUR-mZVM
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>>159013796
>Kaban and Friends having to walk behind Adelie
>that terrifying penguin-head hair she has makes it look like she's open-mouth gawking at them the whole time
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>>159012443
Fennec was originally going to be a cynical artist character apparently seems they dropped the artist art but kept some of the cynicism.
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>>159016412
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>>159016357
Maybe it's a younger Serval, which is why the voice is more high pitched?
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>>159016476
Still waiting for a doujin, Ninniku.
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>>159015627
If Serval/Arai/Fennec came to Cali, I'd 100% buy a ticket and go to anime expo to see them.
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>>159014523
go away moose before lion finds you
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>>159016476
How the hell did they mange this
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>>159015627
>>159016592
Did no one else go to FanimeCon to see Grey Wolf's seiyuu?
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>>159016447
she seems more stoic than cynic. "raccoon's done it again, can't be helped."
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>>159016618
i only care about serval, arai and fennec, not well established VA's
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>>159016606
The Friends have super strength.
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>>159016721
That's kinda hot
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>>158999916
>This image
Arai-san and Fennec a best.
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>>159016436
The headhair was just artistic liberty by that guy, her hair only references the upper part of the beak if you pay attention.
Speaking about the new pengs, I love how both Chinstrap and Adelie have small chests for some contrast with the other pengis.
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>>159016813
I wonder why Adelie's beak was incorporated into the back of her hair instead of the front like other birds.
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>This small blip in MILF whale fanart
I like it, definitely a character I want to see in S2.
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>>159016912
I wonder how she reacted when the Sandstar hit her. After all, she went from being the largest animal in existence and changed into a cute young woman.
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>>158999966
Where can I buy those
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>>159013186
Tsuruya-san?
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>>159016912
WHERE
ARE
THE
FISH
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>>159016961
>how she reacted
>Ahhh! Woooh! What's happening? Who am I? Why am I here? What's my purpose in life? What do I mean by who am I? Okay okay, calm down calm down get a grip now. Ooh, this is an interesting sensation. What is it? Its a sort of tingling in my... well I suppose I better start finding names for things. Lets call it a... tail! Yeah! Tail! And hey, what's this roaring sound, whooshing past what I'm suddenly gonna call my head? Wind! Is that a good name? It'll do. Yeah, this is really exciting. I'm dizzy with anticipation! Or is it the wind? There's an awful lot of that now isn't it? And what's this thing coming toward me very fast? So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like 'Ow', 'Ownge', 'Round', 'Ground'! That's it! Ground! Ha! I wonder if it'll be friends with me? Hello, Ground!
Funny enough, Blue Whale Friend appeared high in the sky one day.
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>>159016900
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad%C3%A9lie_penguin
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>>159016961
>ara ara~
I bet she's the strongest friend too, like she could kill that big cerulean from EP1 without breaking a sweat.
Probably why the friends all call her mommy.
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>>159017197
okay I see the picture but the rest of the article doesn't say anything about their heads being on backwards.
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>>159017279
the image is a meme
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>>159017197
How the fuck do you even survive in Antarctica

i watched march of the penguins and those birds choose to live in the most inhospitable place on Earth. they go months without food.
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>>159017305
that became a meme when "copulating with their dead" was available?
>>159017308
life is suffering
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>>159017308
>those birds choose to live
I'm not sure that's how evolution works
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>>159016912
I want to do lewd things with her blowhole.
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>track 3 on the soundtrack
God why do I feel so happy
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>>159010928
I searched for the source trying to find some context that explains why she can't have the warmer... Unfortunately the artist just wanted to bully her. How cruel...
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>>159017118
Hope she brought a towel.
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>>159017698
It's like the song that plays in the overworld of some early 00s RPG.
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>>159016912
What is with this artist?
Even when he draws what are supposed to be characters with a mature curvy body he gives them a weird almost childlike shoulder/waist/hip ratio and annorexic looking body definition.
Weirder still is that his art seems better when the characters are properly clothed.
It's giving me a very autistic urge to edit every single one of his friends-in-a-string-bikini images.
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Never really noticed just how feminine Kaban's body actually was until just now.
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>>159018034
quite. behold the side-on view.
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>>159016433
Good lord I hate american documentaries so much. So damn annoying.
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>>159006427
>>159006639

I don't think the differences between game, manga and anime really matter for what the guidebook is doing though.

Even though something like "Friends born in the Park Central were more "detailed" than ones born in the wilderness" is an obvious manga reference, it doesn't mean the manga itself is 100% canon. It's just a reference. Same thing goes to the game.

The explanation the guide gives for the 3 humanoid beasts (people in mascot suits from when the park was active. There are rumors about them appearing afterwards, and Lucky beast speculates they might have become Friends) and even their names (Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald Star Beasts in the guide vs Passion/Pure/Cool Beasts) is completely different from the game one (Mascots that were never used due to the Cerulian incident, but gained life and became Cerulian-like beings, but friendly, due to Sandstar).
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Will Jaguar get trench foot from being in the water all the time?
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You may not like this, but it is my favorite crossover picture.
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>>159018261
Wow Toki really brings a touch of class to that warm garbage.
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>>159006098
If water kills ceruleans, wouldn't the park be cerulean-free by now? I mean, one rain storm would wipe them all out.
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>>159018377
You got one hell of a good point.
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>>159018377
I think not because you have to completely submerge a cerulean to kill it. A spray of rain isn't enough.
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>>159018377
Hold onto your ass, it's about to get blown out your mind.
Cerulean color is based on the type of natural disaster they represent. Blue ceruleans are flood-type. Red are fire. Purple are avalanches. Black ceruleans are drought
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Forgot this has been sitting in my mail box since yesterday
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>>159018261
I think I'd love to watch a show about taking care of and raising rare or endangered bird girls, especially if they're all really small and adorable.
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https://twitter.com/Sin_shiino/status/879537467719692288
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>>159018261
I like it.
I've always liked it. I think it's clever and cute.
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why is jaguar so cool
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRPXQLgvk_w
Toki's voice actress (Tomoko Kaneda) participated in a prank show.
Now I am dying from laughter.
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>>159018725
There's nothing wrong with this dog.
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>>159018725
Cute dog
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>>159018180
The thing with the guidebooks though is even with the content in there it isn't clear which parts exactly are canon to the anime even if you ignore the other media.
>>159006970
There's stuff in there presented in all sorts of ways. As conceptual art, as speculation by characters with knowledge they don't seem to have in universe, as explanations for things we've seen in the TV series, as facts without really any context.
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>>159018745
>>159018750
it's an owl
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>>159018928
they want to keep you guessing obviously, they know a lot of the appeal is "speculah"
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>>159018934
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>>159018725
Are they any less nocturnal when kept as pets? I imagine they'd keep you up or wake you up a lot. That or they'd be bored out of their minds at night.
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>>159005929
I think this was meant to be like that kind of folksy Japanese motherly advice you see in anime sometimes, like "you'll die young if you drink while the sun's still up," or "you'll die early if you have a barbecue with no vegetables". Fits the format at least.
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>>159018934
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>>159019001
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>>159018968
dunno i just converted the video from the twitter because i thought it was worth posting here directly.

personally i wouldn't keep one as a pet as i don't think they're really domestic animals.
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>>159019080
Neither would I. I'm just curious.
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>>159017917
I know what you mean, usually the artists pumping out deformed shit to fap to don't bother making normal on-model stuff too. I suspect he just does the lewd stuff for the clicks, and I can respect that.
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>>159018261
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>>159019249
I like Wild Dog being the joker of the trio
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>>159018332
Accurate
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>>159016912
If we get a season 2

Speaking of which, what kind of game is coming out? A mobile game?
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>>159018725
Cute fluffy shoes.
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>>159008334
They're cats that have OCD, acts like doggos and known as one of the few animals to domesticate themselves for their owners. And by OCD, they want things to same everyday for the next 20 years.

Example: You don't have a job, so your routine was play ball with her in the morning, sleep together in the noon and groom her fur every afternoon. Now that you have one, you don't get to play ball, nap and groom her often so she'll end up depressed and probably get sick.
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>>159019643
Sound like a good pet for me, or they would be if not for the money needed.
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>>159003878
>I don't even understand what it is I don't understand

Words to live by.
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>>159019643
>one of the few animals to domesticate themselves for their owners
what else does that?
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>>159015293
Needs more Slug Friend.
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>>159016977
Wait until October
https://twitter.com/hobby_maniax/status/867299249561546752
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>>159016721
>>159016751
Imagine getting pinned down by a raptor-friend
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>>159018928
>as speculation by characters with knowledge they don't seem to have in universe

I don't think there's any text where that happens though. The closest thing is the bit with the owls talking about Friends generations, but their dialogue isn't really connected directly to the information images about the multiple Servals and the specific generation numbers. Note that they never actually mention Serval or the generation numbers in their dialogue.

It's true though, there's some mix of notes about concept art and notes about the actual story.
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>>159020066
"All I know is what I don't know" - Socrates

"I don't even understand what it is I don't understand" - Serval
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>>159020544
>Serval
You mean Jaguar.
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>>159020170
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-domestication

Early doggos, cats, foxes and bonobo
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what friends do you friends want to see in S2?
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AHH! PLEASE DON'T EAT ME!
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>>159020544
"I'm a worthless retard, please kill me" - me
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>>159016188
Did anyone completely translate that part in the guidebook about the exchange of generations of friends where it said that manga is 1, game is 2 and anime is "?"? I assumed that implied all three were one and the same, but I'm not sure, since I couldn't really read the text.
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>>159020652
Thanks. was looking on the serval page for domestication but nothing.
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>>159020954
Serval regenerates so often she might be a Time Lord
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>>159018377
Didn't they say it was only saltwater?
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>>159021030
Pretty sure they said salt or water unless it was mistranslated.
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>>159020731
I wont eat you!
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>>159002225
I forget, do we have a kangaroo friend yet?
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>>159021655
Shit, didn't mean to quote.
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>>159020557
>reddit
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>>159021655
>do we have a friend for one of the most iconic animals on the planet?
そうね・・・
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>>159021767
どうもありがとう
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Arai-bun!
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>>159021935
I want to eat that trash panda
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I don't know about you, but I just want to yoyoyo after a long day.
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>>159022214
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>>159022214
Who is the one on the left?
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>>159022579
Me.
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>>159022649
and what type of friend are (you)
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>>159022685
I don't know! I'm looking for the library!
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>>159022579
Akari from Yuru Yuri.
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>>159022214
Onsen saikou~
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>>159022579
>>159022891

Sauce says it's a boat.
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>>159023472
ruined.
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>>159023472
The third picture in the set is Kantai Collection, that is clearly Akari. https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=63298082
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>>159020557
>>159021762
>>reddit
I miss when we did livestreams
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>>159023759
Seems about right.
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>>159023844

Akari has red hair with odango. Not brown hair with black boat accessories.
It's Yukikaze.
https://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=%E9%9B%AA%E9%A2%A8
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>>159024141
Rude! Serval is a smart cat.
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>>159024257
She's a walking happy meal advertisement.
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>>159024399
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>>159024399
Why does this picture make me think of Raita
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>>159024399
>>159024426
>Chameleon had more than 2 lines and actual screentime
>Shoebill still gets ten times more fanart
This isn't fair at all.
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>>159023759
Serval is Kaban's cute + dumb wife.
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>>159024507
At least she got to be in the stage play.
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>>159024302
I'd take her as my happy meal, if you know what I mean
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>>159024507
You can't compete with Japan's memebird
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>>159024611
I wish Serval also touched Kaban's tummy.
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Why does Jaguar wear a Monster shirt in fanart.
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>>159024708
wakaran
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>>159024611
>that embarrassed kaban
my heart
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>>159009311
Funboruto Pengi!
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>>159025023
How worrisome.
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>>159009311
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>>159025023
>Beaver has been more worrisome than usual
>Kaban suggests taking her to the cafe to calm down
>orders coffee instead of tea
>panic attack
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>>159025384
Giraffe is such a cute idiot.
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>>159025384
Nice.
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>>159025467
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>>159024817
What an underrated Nintendo game. Not even a remake despite its cult following.
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>>159015293
Beautiful hair.
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>>159025314
What is Hululu doing. There aren't any Japari buns in there!
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>>159024551
why is the narrator from keroro there
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>>159025497
I love this.
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What type of video games do you think Ezo plays?
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>>159026468
Casual fighters, she says so herself.
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>>159026468
Rogue-like.
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>>159025467
>>159025497
cute
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uExpGM_x0cM
Waai waaai Tanoshi
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>>159028105
that is cute as fuck.
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>>159028105
Looks like a dog playing tug of war.
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>>159005589
>Berserk tier animation
Don't insult KF's animation.
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>>159028105
Are otters even real animals? No animal should be this proficient and dedicated to tanoshii.
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>>159026500
do people friendpost in /rlg/
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>>159026345
It's a kuroko/traditional stage hand.
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>>159028105
HAYAI
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Will the other island contain a human settlement?
I mean, it has a Golden Gate-like bridge connecting it to some other one.
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>>159028647
Just because it has a bridge doesn't mean there are people there.
There were plenty of structures on the original island, but no humans were found.
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>>159028647
There may be octopus and dolphin friends maintaining a relatively high industrial level there.
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>>159028584
Probably not.
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>>159028738
True, but the stuff found on the original island was pretty basic all in all.
A bridge like that across two islands. That shit takes years and millions to build by an army of workers.
Though, then again, they do have an underground highway...
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>>159028855
>A bridge like that across two islands. That shit takes years and millions to build by an army of workers.
I don't understand your logic of "impressive" must mean people should still be there. Just because there's a nice sturdy wonder of engineering doesn't mean anyone is still there using it, aside from, most likely, friends.
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>>159028855
they have a small army of autonomous robots in constant wireless connection via LuckyNet™
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>>159028928
What I mean is, it's a bit too big an investment for what's essentially just a zoo. Japari park has a cafe, a maze attraction, a garden attraction, an old amusement park and a park for children.
A several lane bridge joining two islands across several kilometers of open ocean is a different deal and not something a safari could hope to contain, IMO.
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>>159028951
Speaking of which, could it be deduced that there are probably aquatic versions of Boss since there are Friends that prefer to live exclusively in water? How else would they deliver Japari buns to them if there aren't variations of Boss who can swim and dive? Or do they just drive tiny, diving submarines? Because that would be absolutely adorable.
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>>159017917
His works get published in Comic LO almost every month, that should make it clear what his preferences are. Even so, I still like his art with older girls.
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>>159029050
Well there were horrible monsters arising from the magical substance that dominates the area, stomping bombers and other weapons of war.
I think that's a fairly good reason to leave the area alone, though admittedly the Ceruleans don't seem all that threatening in the show.
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>>159028855
>>159028647

If we go by the backstory shown in the guidebooks, there was an entire city-like location in the center of Japari Park. Humans mostly left after it was attacked by Cerulians, eventually they defeated the "Cerulean Queen", but then new types of Ceruleans appeared and then they finally left some time afterwards. It's considered an "exclusion zone".

Guidebook 4 did hint at the possibility of more humans in the park though - It mentions that Kaban's original design might be reused for another character in the future and also the possibility that some people who walked around in mascot costumes might have become Friends.
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>>159029061
aquatic friends may well hunt fish on their own
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>>159029168
>the possibility that some people who walked around in mascot costumes might have become Friends
That honestly sounds fucking terrifying
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>>159029172
Raw fish can easily cause debilitating diarrhea and deadly parasites. Two things I don't Boss would allow to happen to any Friend if they can help it.
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>>159029168
>That map.

Thanks for the info, anon.

>Some people who walked around in mascot costumes might have become Friends.
That sounds nasty given how many of these people hate their costumes.
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>>159029256
well they also lost their memories so it's not really a big deal
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>>159029168

That's the original concept art. Don't base any speculation off of it, it's probably outdated.
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>>159023759
>Serval has 61 points total
>Kaban has way the fuck more than 60
Kaban's too OP.
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>>159029289
Superior pure humanity
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>>159029289
And almost all of it is in INT. Humanity fuck yeah.
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>>159029200
>get a low-paying job and be stuck in a stuffy animal costume for 1w hours a day
> get hit by Sandstar and can't ever take it off
> also you grew tits and sound like a cute girl now
Best mixed bag ever.
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>>159029275
>They were brainwashed on top of that.
Think of their family, man. "Sorry guys, your X got hit by a magical crystaline rock while working to pay for college. S/he's now turned into a little girl and doesn't remember anything about their prior life, effectively dying on that moment."
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>>159029200
Maybe the cryptid Friends were the result of mascot costumes getting sandstar'd.
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>>159029280

The Park Central, the Cerulian Queen (and her being defeated) have been referenced in the other guidebooks too, including in sections of guidebook 3 and 4 which were written in character by Kako and Lucky Beast.
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>>159029406
When normal people get hit by sandstar do they go amnesiac too?
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>>159029257
>Uzumaki with the Friends
I don't like it.
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>>159029452
We just don't know. It's just the interpretation anon was suggesting as the lesser evil.
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>>159029275
>>159029406
>>159029452

Yeah, I don't think there's any confirmation about them being amnesiac. Kaban seems to be a special case since she was just a hair strand, but other Friends remember their animal life.
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>>159029439
imagine if you applied sandstar to
oil
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>>159029439
Nah, the guidebook mentions that sandstar can just birth friends based on thoughts of people around it. Bringing out cryptids too.
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>>159029532
For we all know maybe sandstar doesn't work on regular humans. It's pretty obvious human Friends don't follow the same rules as other Friends.
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>>159029256
>That sounds nasty given how many of these people hate their costumes.

Not if you're talking about those heavy mascot costumes with the head and all. Friends don't end up wearing those.
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>>159029594
That comment about the people in costumes maybe becoming Friends is actually the first time they've acknowledge the idea of Human Friends, aside from Kaban, but even then it's told as just speculation from Lucky Beast and not confirmed.
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>>159029168
>also the possibility that some people who walked around in mascot costumes
more like "the costumes became Friends"
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I love guidebook tofu and just think we still have two more of these things to go.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxJgX5MnfoQ
I was waiting for this one.
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Since raw sandstar powered up the Black Cerulean, does that mean sandstar is actually naturally evil?
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>>159017834
Pretty sure you boil them after a while, so the crystals disappear and you can use them once more. If that isn't a reusable one, I'd give her a new one. Don't want it to leak, stuff can't be beneficial for her health
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>>159029892
that was silly
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>>159029965
Big Dog Cerulean wasn't evil, he was just hungry.
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hahaha

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31460856
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>>159029965
rewatch episode 11 more carefully
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>>159030163
It feels like I'm watching gdgd
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>>159029756

Lucky Beast references the "senpai-tachi" becoming Friends, not their costumes. I guess he might be referencing the costumes by themselves as "Senpai", but that'd be kind of odd.
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>>159026002
Can't seem to find it, but wasn't there some famous concert involving the guy doing pic related?
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>>159030277
>KF characters in gdgd type anime
I'd watch
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>>159018934
WHOOOOOOOOOOSHH
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did you listen to Kemono Parade?
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>>159031599
Every day.
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>>159018686
damn I didn't know va's really sound like their voice naturally
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>>159031638
how about Hop Step Friends
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>>159018686
Man, whoever Tomoko's husband is sure got a keeper. Hope her kid grows up well.
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>>159030163
I don't understand what is happening
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>>159031736
Most days, it's my least favourite out of them all, but I still love it.
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>>159032024
hallo hallo,
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>niconico links require registration
:(
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>>159032204
Just get an account, it's worth it in the long run.
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