Eromanga-sensei

>>158980408
bevause /a/ has shit taste and likes anything with cute girls

Every anime is trash if you remove the fun

>>158980664
Anime is certainly not trash, you have shows like Tatami galaxy, Mushishi, or LoGH. These shows doesn't need fanservice for it to work. But I also think that the anime industry is dying.

>>158980731
Go away with that low quality bait

>>158980738
>anything I disagree with is bait
Must be hard being deluded.

i can't

>>158980408
Is this show actually good or is it just your standard moeshit that tries too hard with the fan service

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>>158980408
Why is fun not an acceptable reason for enjoying a show?

>>158980408
Breedable JCs

>>158981082
Just because you had fun, doesn't mean it isn't trash.

>>158981051
It's a standard harem romcom with a tinge of slice of life. If we were to limit it to that genre, It's great, a lot of love was put into it, and knows what it's doing. But overall, it's pretty harmless and standard seasonal shit. It just gets a lot of shit for being popular.

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>>158981145
If you had fun I don't see why it being trash or not matters.

>>158980731
Those shows you list appeal to psuedo intellectuals and the easily impressionable. If you find LoGH's story and writing to be anything but derivative and mediocre, you probably haven't read many books. And I'm surprised you mention Tatami since it's just as shallow as Eromanga.

Really, anime is not what anyone should be looking for when they're searching for a meaningful artistic medium. It's purely consumerist entertainment, just like video games and comic books, and any shows that try to break that glass ceiling are just emulating other forms of media like literature and film.

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>>158981310

>>158980408
Sagiri is cute.

>>158980408
It was trash. But not for reasons you belive it to be.

It was fun and episodes were ok, but story as whole felt very disjointed, rushed and non cohesive. Not sure if its fault of novel itself or anime adaptation - Oreimo didnt had that issue.

So while i enjoyed it, the experience wasne whole since the story just isnt there.

Wait, it actually ended? That last episode didn't feel like an end at all, I was sure there's gonna be more.

Season 2 when?

>>158981310
>and film

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>>158980408
It is trash though? I just watched it for cute girls doing lewd things.

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>>158981368
>story as a whole felt very disjointed and non-cohesive
>story is literally so simple it's just one point to the next point
>literally introduction -> start cycle -> sagiri introduction -> elf -> muramasa -> repeat cycle -> end
You know I can agree with you saying it's rushed but calling it disjointed and non cohesive is on your part.

>>158981412
You don't see how much anime all the way back to the 80s has always tried to emulate Western cinema?

>>158981588
I don't see how film has ever been a ''''''meaningful artistic medium''''''

>>158981623
I guess you wouldn't think that if your usual intake of film consists of capeshit and Hollywood big budget flicks, which make up a small portion of world cinema.

>>158981677
Not even that guy but good job proving your point with an assumption.

>>158980408
Its the next best thing after Oreimo or at least that what Oreimofags think

>>158982400

Something I find hilarious is that no one can explain why Eromanga Sensei is a good show. I see people giving this an 8-10 rating and saying it's a good show, but not once I've seen anyone mentioning any legitimate good quality about Eromanga except for: "it's cute", "Sagiri is so cute", "it has cute girls", "incest is wincest". This may be unfair since I shouldn't be trashing on anyone's likings and I believe people have the right to enjoy whatever the hell they like, but I cannot shake the annoyance that some people are just satisfied with anything at this point. Trust me, I like cute girls and lolis as much as the next guy does, but somewhere somehow we need to draw the line and notice when our intelligence is being insulted. Does the only thing that an anime needs is for it to have cute girls, some type of incestuous relationship, a copy/paste generic protagonist (that took no effort to create), a bunch of terribly forced memes and loli fanservice for us anime fans to be all over it on social media and be supporting this garbage? If this isn't an insult to the viewer's intelligence then I don't know what is.

>>158984190
Formulaic writing. This means - author is actually proffessional enougth to design his storytelling to condone the basic formulas of comedy and storytelling.

This sounds like "what? whats good about it?" - but truth is most anime/LN writers are complete shit amateurs writing without any direction and composition whatsoever.

Not sure about Eromanga/Oreimo author if he`s just good or his editors tortures him to death editing his works, but its well done. Never tedious, each episode contained, knowing how to maintain humor tension as well emotional parts without overplaying them.

A kind of writer that sits first, thinks what he wants to write about, then composes a text plan and works up on it. As opposed of Eromanga character novelists who just spill spaghetti in word files 50 pages per hour heh

ITT: author that approaches writing as work and not graphomany

>>158984493

The thing is, none of these characters seem remotely interesting or feel like real people. They're walking anime tropes that will only exist for the purpose of having the main guy hang around with other girls than his sister and to let the audience have a bit of variety. I have checked the manga and there is no indication they will get interesting enough to carry this bad comedy.

>>158981333
You quoted the wrong post, let me help you: >>158980731

>>158984190
It's entertaining if you're into the kind of things it focuses on. That's literally everything anime needs to be objectively good, because anime is an entertainment medium.
Anime was never meant to be and will never be "art". Fuck off with your pretentiousness somewhere else.

ITT: babby's first Fushimi show
>it's so bad but it's good because I'm trash XD
Buy yourself a rope and find a tall tree. If you can't understand why this series as a whole does so well in the industry you ought to quit consuming jap media and you ought to quit life for being such cancer.

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>show is over
>people still hating on it
JEEEEEESUS, how obsessed can you be

>>158980408
because it delievers exactly what it promisses

>>158980664
>>158981310
Hahahaha I love how every time someone calls you Eromanga shitters out on your shit taste you try to devaluate the entire anime medium implying everything should be shallow pandering garbage for otaku, it's fucking pathetic, but it's the only real defense you faggots have.

It's a literal comicket fapbait.

Nothing else.

It's a modern masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hseORduMkM

>>158985328
All we needed was this shill spamming his shitty video
The group is complete

>>158985328
>weeb who's too insecure about his taste
>haha I'm sarcastic I t-think it's trash too

>>158985320
The girls aren't even as fappable as the ones from Oreimo

You need to be older to appreciate art.

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>>158985417
Megumi alone trumps anything in oreimo

Is this show worth watching? Or can I get the full level of enjoyment from just the lewd webms?

>>158985294
>Hahaha
Calm down anon, must've hit that autism nerve right?

>>158985482
>le I like dicks girl
She is fucking garbage

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>>158985199
>>158985199

It is actually a fairly sad result when compared to the author's previous work, OreImo. OreImo, flawed and infuriating as it was, actually put a great deal of time into making Kirino and Kyosuke's feelings for one another feel meaningful. Kirino was no doubt insufferable, but by the end, you could at least look at her as something more than an assortment of tropes and incest appeal. Likewise, it also went into a fair amount of detail with regards to the life of a stereotypical otaku. It represented Comiket, eroge, offline meetings, and the conflict people can have when they possess hobbies they are ashamed of. It was no Genshikan, but OreImo did at least try to contribute something to the industry with more appeal than "well, gee, banging your sister sounds like a fun idea."

The same cannot be said for Eromanga-sensei, which does and says nothing about the industry. Any moment when it does display the struggles of Masamune's career, it is extremely, unbearably dull, and often propelled by silly plot devices like one of his love interests offering all their royalties in return for Masamune becoming their slave. The whole premise of being a light novel author is an accessory that may as well not even exist. If you stripped all the fanservice away, all that would expose is the show's unsightly skeleton.

>>158985417
The fanservice was totally blatant this time.

With oreimo they had the dumb otaku drama plot, this time they just went just went with bikini episodes and fuck it.

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>>158985417
>"I don't 'think' the girls are as fappable as Oreimo"
>universal truth

>>158985504
It's just the truth, you have no argument so you try to lower actually ambitious anime to the same level as your fapbait drivel

Do the haters care more about the show than the fans do? They certainly talk more about it

>>158985587
Can you make actual arguments as to why it's bad? Other than it's yucky? Or it doesn't fit YOUR criteria?

>>158980408
Because it makes normalfags and salesfags extremely angry.
inb4 "but normalfags from reddit like me love it"

>>158980408
because it triggers the nascent sexuality of underage normalfags like yourself, and I derive much satisfaction from it.

>>158985569
Yes, the author was not even trying to be subtle, how does it make the series better?

>>158985582
The designs are just extremely generic

>>158985614
When has that never been the case?

>>158985614
I just can't understand how ANYONE can like this show. People like you hurt the anime industry.

>>158985668
>muh industry

>>158985644
>designs are generic
Thank you for your opinion. Care to share more? Or do you want to back up your claim?

>>158980408
I actually dropped it at episode 9 when I could not stand the bullshit anymore. It was fun for a while but then it became too stupid.

>>158985625
People have made countless arguments, you just chose to ignore them because "lol it's fun" and "it doesn't try to be more than it is"

>>158980408
It's an interesting piece of trash.
Just what I like to watch.

>>158985668
>implying the industry cares about a gaijin

>>158981310
Pretty much this. Though LOGH isn't know for its good plot anyway nor its battles/tactics(as a senki series its a huge failure) nor for the incredibly basic and pretentious 'politics' which makes the fedora lords feel like they found a masterpiece.

What the Lords of Fedora can't enough of is the cliche Yang banter like 'Alcohol is mans best friend' tier cheesy lines they use as quotes and think they look classy and mature or some shit.

>>158985626
>>158985627
And then there are ironic weeb edgelords like these who pretend to defend the series because "hurr normalfags hate it so it's good"

>>158985668
No, people like you hurt the industry by not buying the series you like to show your support.

>>158980731
hahahahahaha

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>>158985749
Just look at the kinds of replies I get every time I say that. It's great.

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>>158981310
>>158985747
>everything that isn't dumb otaku pandering moeshit is pretentious pseudo-intellectual bullshit

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>>158985749
keep being mad as fuck, anon. i'll be here enjoying your rage. i've been enjoying it since 2013.

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>>158985545
>but by the end, you could at least look at her as something more than an assortment of tropes and incest appeal
Sooner or later the bait was going to show itself.
Anyway, do you want an upboat with it or what?

I wonder how long it takes before this trash is completely forgotten

>>158985782
>i'm just fishing for (You)s

>>158985850
>u mad

More proof that Eromanga shitters do not actually love this series and are just pathetic contrarians

>>158985857
>b-but you'll forget this in a week you'll see
>b-but you'll forget this in a month you'll see
>b-but you'll forget this in a year you'll see
This new excuse is hilarious too.

hurr it's fun xD

>>158985887
>
More proof that people who hate Eromanga-sensei come from reddit.

>>158985942
more proof Eromanga fags are autistic

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>>158985857
>>158985887
you fuckers said the same shit about oreimo. it's 2017 and you're all still fucking raging about it, and eromaga has renewed your rage even further and exponentially increased it. it is sublime. every time i see a oreimo/eromanga thread it's like i've just shot myself up with the finest heroin and the bliss will not abate until 404. thank you, anons. your rage bring me great joy.

>>158980664
I fucking love this reasoning. It's the weakest logic behind willingly consuming garbage yet people feel so safe using it.

>>158980408
>Now that the series is over, can you cunts tell me why this show isn't trash? Other than "hurr it's fun xD".


I like meta

>>158985988
>haha haters gonna hate
I bet you think Justin Bieber makes good music

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See you in season 2.

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>>158980408
>Being "self aware" and doing the exact same shit that you are making fun of
This is literally how shitposters opperate.
Nothing is bad anymore as long as it's "ironic" these days.

Im personally glad i watched it just for Elf but chist it's painful to know that it's popular just because Fushimi shat it out.

>>158980408
Being "hurr it's fun" already puts it ahead of 95% of the crap Japan produces.

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>>158986036
HOLY FUCK IT IS REALLY LIKE I'VE TIME-TRAVELLED TO 2010-13 AGAIN

>>158986118
>dude current year lmao

>>158985715
What arguments? It's the same on both sides. Most of the arguments against the show are blanket statements like it's cliche, generic, too fanservicey, why isn't it NHK, pedos, and ugh pedos. Just because it doesn't subscribe to your subjective criteria of what media should be, it doesn't mean it's bad. As long as it logically follow the metrics universally agreed upon as a measure for art, it's not bad.

It contaisn itself to its genre (harem/slice-of-life/rom-com) extremely well and plays it strong. The story has been consistent throughout the series. And the only time you have to swallow a disparity in logic is when it introduces its premise and genre. But once you've done that, It doesn't break neither. The characters do fall into stereotypes and cliches but they're often broken and developed a character.

The reason it's also thought of as 'lol it's fun' is because the show has been carefully crafted and poured effort to its genre. And while the genre isn't admirable when criticizing as art universally, it's admirable enough because it was able to perfectly capture the audience of that genre.

The show is able to fit actual objective criteria but never delves deep into it. It isn't more than what it is. But that shows that the show is mediocre in general but great where it matters to its audience.

>>158986118
Give it a rest faggot.

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>>158986134

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>>158980408
It was made by the same guy as Oreimo.

Of course it's fucking shit.

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Eromanga-sensei in many ways represents everything that is bad with light novels. It is a story (I guess, if we put aside its flagrantly incestual nature) of a group of twelve-to-fifteen-year-olds who are famous artists, as if adults do not and cannot exist. If Eromanga-sensei was taking inspiration from the scribbles of a bunch of middle school students, its rubbish writing would actually make a great deal of sense.

>>158986230
Do you not know anything about otaku culture or japanese society?
Fucking normalfags I swear.

If Muramasa cad draw as good as a photographic camera, why does she need an artist for her novels?

>>158986298
>criticise shit writing
>hurr fucking normalfags

>>158986298

Now, to clarify, first of all, I don't believe that just because an anime, or any piece of entertainment, panders towards a certain demographic, that it is inherently bad necessarily. There have been plenty of anime that pander towards the otaku audience while, at the same time, remaining fun, and some instances, good shows, but Eromanga-sensei is not such an example. It's a show that lives by the convention in terms of its plot structure, comedy, character archetypes and dives head first into trashiness at any moment it can get. What could have been an interesting look into why and how people who shut themselves inside their homes live on a daily basis, akin to something along the lines of Welcome to the N.H.K or something, the show just decides to opt out instead for loli fan-service instead, ditching anything that made Oreimo, somewhat enjoyable, and, in some parts, decent. Before I continue, I'd just like to clarify that I am not hating on this show just because the original creator also created Oreimo. As I just said, I found that show to be decent (until the ending anyway) but it also had a few things that I could appreciate when it comes to meta humour about otaku and the anime industry as a whole. Eromanga-sensei has none of that. It's pointless, empty and has no value as a show at all. It's trash in every sense of the word.

>>158986321
>It's a story I guess
>if we put aside its selling point
>adults did have influence but let's ignore that
>if Eromanga-sensei was taking inspiration from middle school students
>she's literally a continuation of her mom
Very strong criticism normalfag.

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>>158986371
Why does every fucking piece of media produced today have to be a social critique, analysis or deconstruction? Fucking hell.

>>158986437
>>158986450
Eromanga shitters keep covering their ears and ignoring all criticism, how predictable

>>158986450
Because that's what pretentious faggot look for when they watch anime. Anything that isn't deep as fuck is worthless for them.

>>158986450
Because it holds no weight otherwise. What are you some kind of fag who watches for entertainment?

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>>158986156
Jesus fucking chirst.
Are you the same faggot that keeps defending Black Clover because it "Sticks to it's genre" and "knows its audience"?
This is and never has been a valid point to defend anything.
Criticism don't work like that and you know it.
Nothing is gonna save this show from being put up against other works no matter how much you want it not to be.
It's a low effort show made for low effort people and that in itself is worth criticizing and hating it for.

Would you be defending this shit if it was just another haremshit show #32615 made by a literal who next season just because it "plays it safe"?

>>158986495
Your criticism is basically: WHY THE FUCK WASN'T IT DEEP

Why the fuck does it have to be deep?

>>158986510
>fuck your arguments it's shit IT'S SHIIIIIIIIIT

>>158986450
>>158986506
>anything that isn't worthless otaku panderring must be 2deep4u shit
You eromanga defenders keep proving yourselves as brainlets

>>158986558
>b-but I'm an intellectual, I need to watch mature anime for mature people like me

>>158984190
Nice pasta.

All these ranting, crying, "looking for reason" fags that spotted this, a relatively tame series which even has a somewhat enjoyable, very light storyline to go with it only made this particular show their target because the main girl is 12 years old, and all the girls are small to normal instead of their usual normalfag crap.
Fact.

>>158986553
>Your criticism is basically: WHY THE FUCK WASN'T IT DEEP
No it's "Why is this so popular when there are a million other show like this out there?"
Nobody would be batting an eye if it was doing just average in sales but it's taking over Japan as we speak currently.

>>158986557
Low effort

>>158986321
It was a genuine question. Most of the anime industry is about teens and children, does it not occur to you that there are reasons behind it?

>>158986371
Here's the thing, you and I are not japanese - we are not important. The japanese love it and no amount of bitching is going to change it.
Moreover, other than the "love vs. logic" confict, Oreimo was far from anything meaninful. It was great pandering through and through, just like Eromanga-sensei.
Having read both series in the original language I can easily state that they feel very, very similar to each other. Excepting the sibling romance, the arcs are short, the drama is quickly resolved and wasn't a big deal to begin with and the entire story lacks serious arcs. The difference is in the setting and the characters; while Oreimo has(had) a nicer setting, Eromanga has better characters.

>>158981310
Hipocrisy

>>158986655
Are you new to anime? The one thing people look forwards to the most after a show they enjoyed ends is a second season for that show - which, unsurprisingly, would give them more of the same. Even if there were a million others shows that are exactly like Eromanga-sensei out there (spoiler: there aren't, unless you're shallow as fuck), people who liked those million shows would love watching another show just like them because that's what they want.
Thankfully, not everyone in this board is a retarded salesfag who can only ride bandwagons.

>>158986510
>actual metrics where you can find some form of objectivity
>it's not a valid point to defend anything
Anyways, that's not even the fucking point. I'm saying that it's really good in the genre or criteria it's trying to meet. But mediocre or average universally, not because it knows it audience or sticks to its genre but because it's able to actually meet criteria that matter like I've mentioned above. Black Clover could be fucking great at where it's trying to be but bad in the overall grand scheme of things and that's why it's not succeeding. Eromanga on the other hand does understand it, but it will never really amount to anything great.

Why are you fuckers so unable to separate these ideas?

>Would you be defending this shit if it was just another haremshit show #32615 made by a literal who next season just because it "plays it safe"?
It depends if they actually know the genre and keeps it grounded to actual decent metrics like Eromanga did.

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>>158986558
>eromanga fans only watch otaku pandering shit
Your assumptions say more about you than they do the eromanga fans, faggot.

The eromanga hate relies on a position of assumption, and that assumption is this: "if they like this, then it's all they like." If their arguments allowed for the fact that eromanga fans do watch anime with "depth" (whatever the intended meaning is behind this arbitrary and subjective word), then they would have to logically conclude that maybe eromanga fans don't give a shit that it's not "deep" since they don't watch it for that explicit purpose.

Thus the eromanga haters have to bitch about depth (or lack thereof) through presuming the eromanga fans' position.
>>158986655
>>158986655
>Why is this so popular when there are a million other show like this out there?"
This goes to show you are lacking in business acumen, but don't worry—let me educate you on simple market economics:
A product is a reflection of the market, and the market is a reflection of the consumer. The fact that there are millions of shows like this on the market shows that they are popular, which means that logically this show is popular because the consumer likes it. Eromanga is a product.

This show is the future of anime.

>>158986865
>Eromanga is a product.
See that's the problem, anime should be more of an art. You don't see that in western films.

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>>158986921
>You don't see that in western films

>>158981310
>any art
>being deep and intellectual and meaningful
>ever
lol

>>158986921
>You don't see that in western films
>what are endless capeshit and transformers movies

>>158986843
>objective criteria
You keeps saying this shit like it has any meaning whatsoever but never say what that

>>158987065
Fuck me i was cut short.
As i was sying what criteria are you even fucking talking about?

>>158986921
>You don't see that in western films.
Oh wow

>>158981310
Cinema?Photography? why can't you appreciate the TRUE high arts like painting, sculpture, literature and architecture? how can you find the cabinet of doctor caligari anything but derivative and mediocre? you musn't have read many books. Really film is not what you should be looking for when you're searching for a meaningful artistic medium, it's just emulating other forms of media!
>retard doesn't understand that this kind of argument has been repeated for literally CENTURIES every time a new art form surfaced
kys

>>158986921
BAHAHAHAHAH

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>>158986865
>Your assumptions say more about you than they do
>The eromanga hate relies on a position of assumption
>This goes to show you are lacking in business acumen

>>158980408
Dogs eat dog food?

>>158987122
>kys
The fucking irony

>>158987168
Nice reply, anon!

>>158987220
let me in on the joke anon

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>>158987190
>>158987277
I saved this as a joke but i never thought i should see a thread where it was actually true.

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>>158986921
>anime should be more of an art
Thread's over folks, we got the stupid sentence we wanted to see.
Now let's post some cute Sagiris until it hits bump limit.

>>158987291
still don't get the joke
>>158987122
what does it have to do with his reply?

The main plot was about writing stories.
That really dragged it down.

>>158987337
Post the nude version of that pic

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Is Saigiri bisexual?

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>>158987234
I would rather smug reply then looking like giant twat that thinks he is smart just because he can say the same thing a 100 times that everyone already knows.

>>158987084
Criteria as in the things you use to compare it to other works. Basically a result of what a collective group agrees on what should media be and a logical measure based on tons of previous works in the medium. Now, it's impossible to create a perfect model for this but it's possible to find something that jus werks. It's not exactly objective but it's based from logic and helps keep you far away from subjectivity. It's basically what you're using to compare Eromanga added along with criterias westerners have that a bunch of xenophobic otakus don't give a shit about.

>>158987291
Incidentally, I'm less for the metaphysical and more for /a/ are dogs, eromanga is dog food. They eat what is given to them, they come to love the dog food, until the patricians give them boiled chicken.

Kant can go do one.

>look at me guys I'm so smart and intellectual for watching anime
>fucking brainlets ruining the industry

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>>158987413
If everyone already knows it why are you arguing at all?

Sagiri's problem of being a shut in was the only, the ONLY thing that the show had going for it and it throws it out so fucking fast! I was genuinely interested to see what the show may do with this element; perhaps comment on the bigger picture of shut ins in Japan perhaps, or delve into the psychological reasons behind this character's reasoning for why she has to say inside, but nope! They ditch this element and Masamune doesn't even try and help her with this issue at all, and instead panders towards. He doesn't try to make her see why this is a problem, nor does his try to help her go into the outside world or anything. Sagiri is there just to be cute and that's fucking it! We hardly learn anything about her as a person and she is such a brat that I can't stand every moment that she is on screen. Like most bad shows, the anime attempts to throw incest into the mix, and it comes across as so forced and disgusting. As someone who has three little sisters myself, one of which isn't actually related to me by blood, the thought of Masamune and Sagiri enterting into a romantic relationship generally disgusts me to no end and all I hear people shout is "INCEST IS WINCEST" constantly, actually hoping the two will get together in the end. I also just hate the general excuse of "oh! They're not related by blood, so it's fine!". No it's not. It's just as creepy and strange. To me, this aspect of the show baffles me, and I've never understood the appeal of little sisters in anime. This problem is also highlighted by the fact that we have young 13-year-old girls proclaiming that they love dicks out in public, just for all of the filthy weebs to rub their dicks at the thoughts of seeing this in action or something.

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Eromanga-sensei is AOTS.

>>158985988
Koi Kaze was better incest anime

>>158987495
You're reply was just shit.
That's all.

>>158987520
LOL

>>158980408
How about you provide a good reason why is it trash?

>>158987764
It is asinine dreck, without so much as a modicum of creativity. I suppose its colourful art and catchy opening animation may lead some people into thinking the anime is more than it truly is, but it is best to be honest: the sole reason anyone likes this show is because they want to bone the twelve-year-old heroine.

>>158987818
That's a pretty empty criticism and saying that it is without creativity is simply untrue, after all, it has enough creativity in its fanservice to make everyone wants to bone 12 years old girls and the comedy skits are funny and well presented.
Also colorful art and opening animation are a part of an anime, if people think an anime is more than it is because of that then they aren't wrong. It's a fucking visual medium.

I just want someone to explain to me why this show is fun. I don't even think it's trash, it's just nothing to me.

>>158987418
This is nothing but a collective bunch of subjective opinion.
As you said otaku don't have standarts to begin with, so i fail to see how this is any better then a subjective opinion.

>>158987818
So it comes down to her age after all? You piece of shit, go back to your shounen crap now.

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>>158980408
Daily reminder that the "fun is not an argument" argument comes from the videogame board.
Don't be afraid to say you like something because it's fun.

>>158987950
Heck, even the few drama episodes and moments are better than what most anime of the same harem genre, as well as a large number of anime of drama genre, has to offer.

>>158988064
Fuck off

>>158988064
Fun alone isn't a good argument, you need to be able to articulate why it is fun as well.

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>>158987989
As it should because there is no drive.
We all know that NBR route is the only way open.
Characters make or break these kinds of shows since they aren't plot heavy and since all of the girls that isn't Sagiri only are there to fill out the space between her development makes everything redundant.

There is even less tension in this show then in Dragonball super.
At leat people could hold out hope for other girls in Oreimo since they were bloodrelated.

>>158987989
>I don't find this fun. Please explain why I should find this fun.
Are you autistic? Don't tell me you ask people why you should like their fetishes as well.

>>158988257
>Fun alone isn't a good argument
Jesus fucking christ some people actually believe that shit

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>le hurrrrr things are only good if they're deep intellectual art xd

"High art" is a lie. The concept didn't even exist until the 1800s or so when it developed in reaction to the decline of religion, the rise of capitalism, etc. Homer was just recording war stories so people would remember them, Shakespeare was just trying to entertain people, these guys didn't have delusions that they were transcendent geniuses. People who talk about "real art" as opposed to "mere products" are just wankers who want to feel superior to other people and can't imagine enjoying anything just because it's fun and makes them feel good.

"Play" is almost a dirty word to some people, something that you should feel guilty about. Ironic that those same people would spend their time posting on a Japanese cartoon forum.

>>158988257
Fun is a subjective thing.

>>158988316
>>158988356
It's a completely valid reason to enjoy an anime but if you want to defend its quality then you must be able to present more than just that.

>>158988373
>you must defend finding something fun!
Fuck off you stupid shitposter braind dead normal faggot. How is that for a reason?
GET OUT

>>158988257
>you need to be able to articulate why it is fun as well
why

>>158988018
Every criticism is based on collective opinions that are based on reason and logic. It helps people get closer to the truth of what media should be. It's as close as you can be to objectivity from a very subjective thing. The otaku standards are fully capable of meeting eye to eye with a universal standard. But they also don't because they've also developed a different standard over time because of the media they consume. The same can be said with a person who lives in the west. They both hold their ground but are nothing against the ideal standard. You can argue that your side is closer to the truth but it isn't. It helps you get closer though.

The point I'm trying to make here is that Eromanga is in the grand scheme of things is mediocre. It's great for the nips but shit for west.

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>>158987668
Your reply is a non-argument despite you arguing in an argument that you think people shouldn't argue

>>158988314
That isn't my question. I already know I don't enjoy this. I'm asking why others do.

>>158988397
>>158988407
It's totally resonable to explain why they think something is fun and if they can't it's just prove that they don't wanna come to termes with what it is they like about it.

The same can be said for why people think something is bad.

>>158988435
>B-but for the west it's shit!
My little crossboarder piece of shit friend, this is /a/, in case you have failed to notice that fact beforehand.
Now take your fucking western media smartass, and shove it up your butt.

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>>158988449
Again with the shit that everyone knows.

>>158988493
>if they can't it's just prove that
That never ever works anon. Every single time it goes like this
>I think show X is fun because of Y
>I don't like Y so it's SHIT

>>158988500
I'm defending the show from a western media smartass, you fucking faggot.

>>158988537
How about you take his hand and both fuck off then with your "intellectual" garbage?

>>158988435
>media should be
Media is a creation. The creator decides what it should be. Now, if that creator wants to make money from his creation, then the market will decide what he should create.

>>158988435
The west is full of pretentious people who think anime is some sort of superior form of art, as you can see from this thread.
Their opinions are worthless.

>>158988435
I just wanna thank you for actually typing out your thoughts instead of just using buzzwords like 90% of this board.
It help the quality.

>>158988621
>fun is a buzzword
So it really was /v/.

>>158988621
The word buzzword itself has become a buzzword.

>>158988589
>I will never be this fucking retarded
I want you to know i mean this for real, im so happy i am not you right now.

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>>158988257
Sorry kiddo, you're not entitled to shit. It's fun, I love it, the japs love it, period.

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because

>>158980731
>Tatami galaxy
stopped reading there

>>158988668
No fun isn't a buzzword.
If you wanna know why look above.
>>158988678
True.

>>158988702
But I never said it's not fun. I love it and think it's a great anime of this season, as well as a standout example of its genre.
>>158987764
>>158987950
>>158988098

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Sales numbers are justice!

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>>158988782
>salesfags being destroyed by their own standards two seasons in a row
It's fucking beautiful

Requesting Sagiri licking her lips in gif or web,

>>158988590
Yeah, the creator can do whatever the fuck he wants. But I'm talking about how people on the receiving end wants it to be and the larger picture.

It's helps give creators have a model to follow. Fushimi and A-1 knows what media nips want to spend money on. If the nips want to spend money on this so be it. It's their media and I'm happy. The west who isn't the target doesn't matter.

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>implying EMS is "fun"
It stopped being fun the moment it turned into relationships "drama" and shitty harem romance. I wish we had more shows like GJ-bu, Konosuba or Rokujouma where everything doesn't resolve around dense MC and characters actually care about something other than wanting to jump on MC's dicks.

I thought that OreImo was the worst anime ever, but then Eromanga happened.

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>>158988933
What are you talking about, it's fun as hell. Plus it makes your heart go dokidoki and your dick go hard.

>>158988993
Fanfic-tier romance for teens and rushed drama only makes me scratch my head because of how retarded the characters act. Do you think that IS or Haganai romance is also "fun" and makes your heart go dokidoki?

>>158988943
I actually like oreimo now after this came out

>>158988933
I disagree.

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>>158989121
Sucks to be you, I had a blast.

>>158989167
Same, even though S2 was rushed, at least Oreimo actually took its time to develop the characters.

>>158981310
/Thread
/Board

>>158986079
Fucking this. It doesn't matter if you do something lame, just as long as you address that its lame it makes it OK.

>>158989121
How is it rushed? Which part of it is fanfic tier? There are shitton of fanfic floating around Internet with a variety so large it can shame the majority of movies, games and anime alike in term of ideas, but how do they convey those ideas are important and that's where fanfic fall short and I'm wondering how the fuck will you compare visual story telling with text format story telling.

>>158989272
>why does satire exists: the post

>>158988756
Fuck you i liked

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>>158988933
I feel like this is what most people that dislike about it.
It's too much pandering and take the "in show marketing" with all the LNs way to seriously.
Anime generally is a really pandering media but this show just turns it op to 11.

I personally hate 4th wall braking because i think it's just wasting time talking to the viewer instead of furthering the narrative.
Then again, there isn't so much of a narrative in this show, just random plot that get's thrown to the all.
>I wanna get my little sister out of her isolation
>I wanna marry my sister
>I wanna write a book about my sister
>I wanna get it animated too
>Now i wanna wrigt an LN again
Without end and without end for any of them in sight.

>>158989293
>How is it rushed?
Elf was ready to suck his dick only after a few interactions.
>Which part of it is fanfic tier?
I don't know, maybe the part where MC is, conveniently, a dense retard so literally everything resolves around "misunderstandings", just like in pretty much any other similar shitty LN that tries into romance?

>>158989300
I'll take "What is degradation of words" for 500 please.

>>158989505
>all of these plot points are randomly placed and certainly not a cohesive result of of an event
You could've chosen the creative decisions that don't fit the narrative in order to be a better harem. But you chose to be stupid and pick the most cohesive part.

>>158989817
>You could've chosen the creative decisions that don't fit the narrative
Hit me with one then.
I just posted off the top of my head.

>>158988798
But you are being salesfag now. My favorite anime this season didnt sale much but i dont care.

>>158989505
The only reason to ever hate pandering is if you aren't the one being pandered to, in which case you were never part of the target public for this show. Why did you watch it?

>>158980408
>Other than "hurr it's fun xD".
Reread what you wrote

>>158989892
Muramasa interactions overall. Now, I love those parts. Muramasa is a bullyable qt. But most of her parts after her initial arc just pops up.

Oh, and jew girl confessing at the end.

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So why do people hate on Nisekoi and like this even though it's basically the same as Nisekoi minus the lewd part?

>>158990183
Because Nisekoi doesn't have the lewd part and is thus socially acceptable

>>158990183
Nisekoi is much better as an anime than Eromanga sensei. It's probably mangafags mad at the filler.

>>158990245
Ayy quality shit taste.

>>158981145
/a/ really has mastered being the tsundere.

>>158990021
I like to try stuff before i judge it like a reasonable person.
Besides im on fucking /a/, of coures it panders to me, it just the way it does it that pisses me off.
>>158990102
>Muramasa's lol so ranudmb moments are suppose to furhter the plot somehow
Her character is overal is weak, and most of her motivation just stems from the fact she wanted to jump on the MC's dick before she had even met him.

This is exactly the type of shit im talking about, it too far fetched to be real character development too if you ask me.

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>>158990245
Are you and Leluch tripfag buddies?
Because then i have something for you.

>>158990421
Yeah, there is also that kind of people that could be mad at nisekoi because they liked an inferior girl.

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>>158990245
I agree. Anons always shit on me for saying Nisekoi(anime) is fun and one of the better romcoms out there.

>>158990338
>it just the way it does it that pisses me off.
This is something a lot of people struggle to understand for some reason. It may "pander" to you, but it doesn't mean you'll always like the way it's executed.

It was ok.

>>158990338
Yeah it's not supposed to further the plot. You specifically asked me for the parts that don't. Are you mentally challenged?

Again, you're choosing a shit example. You could've chosen Megumi for a useless character who are useless overall. But Muramasa is a decent character. Her principles and motivation have been laid out. You can make out to an extent that she makes bad decisions. She's been fleshed out from an angry bitch with shitty motivations to a gullible, affectionate, and indecisive yet resolute girl where it matters. Her affection for Masamune can be reasoned out because she isn't that right in the head and the characters acknowledge that. And if you think that's a bit unrealistic, you should watch more news.

Eromanga was a solid 5/10.

My only theory for the people who like and act so vocal about it it is that they are newfriend crusaders who think that just because the show has a loli in it, it's justifiable to throw out any meaningful story or characters and defend it's flaws with rabid shoutings of nonsensical tu quoquo

>>158990183
Nisekoi anime was pretty great. And well received outside here. Which is funny because you could apply the favorite criticisms people have to Nisekoi.
Eromanga Anime > Nisekoi Anime

The manga was a huge case study on how to do harem. It was a bit repetitive and can get you weary. The biggest problem was that instead of just finding a winner and hareming up, they spend things on serious arcs that drag the plot instead of furthering it.

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>>158990820
Right? How dare people like something you don't.

>>158990820
>everyone who likes the show I don't like is a newfriend

>>158990889
>>158990926
eromanga fans, everyone

strawman right out the gates ignoring the fact I didn't like nor dislike the show

I think I'm done here

The show is trash
but so am I

Loved every second of it.

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>>158990984
See you then.

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>>158990984
>throw out meaningful story or characters
>no basis
>an argument
See you lad

>>158991086
>>158991030
am I being baited?

I just insulted your intelligence and you respond with a shitpost

I think I understand why you people like this show now.

>>158989622
>After a few interaction
That's entirely your assumption based on the i. Did you miss the part when she meet him and grow to like his character? Nothing explicitly indicated that she wants to fuck him after "a few interactions".
MC is as dense as every normal highschooler in real life (you probably aren't that better off than him) and while he's no genius, he's certainly isn't a retard. It's not even revolving around misunderstanding either, do you even watch the show or you just noticed the part you hate the most and emphasize on that?

>People legitimately defend NBR trash
I never knew that /a/ would have fallen so low.

>>158990775
>You specifically asked me for the parts that don't
Yea my bad i forget what it was we were talking about.

But if really think that being fleshed out means being quirky on screen without any deeper meaing behind it othe then being a fan girl is realistic i suggest YOU watch more news and go look at how that turns out IRL.

>>158991505
Don't worry brother.
The imouto threads are mostly still safe.

>>158991617
No they're not. Turns out that being a great imouto character makes it ok to be NBR and eventually have six children with your legal brother.

>>158989505
The 4th wall breaking is entirely for comical and I don't see what's so offensive about them, they are so fucking short it barely matters.
>I wanna get my little sister out of her isolation
By the end of this season, she did get out of her complete hikki state.
>I wanna marry my sister
If he marries her then that's the end of the series. (he has proposed to her in the LN)
>I wanna write a book about my sister
He'd written it and the first volume was released.
>Now i wanna wrigt an LN again
What are you even on about? He's a fucking LN author. He has been writing LN from ep 1.
And it's a fucking comedy show, all of these plots are just context and reasons for character interactions and comedy skits to play out.

>>158991301
Eromanga easily has the most insecure fanbase I've seen in a while.

>>158991552
Deep is pretty subjective lad. What do you mean by deep?

And what the fuck are you even saying? Being a fan girl and quirky on screen? I described why she's fleshed out. You're just giving me empty words. Also, a crush on your favorite author is a possibility, especially for someone who's a bit crazy. But crazy also doesn't necessarily equate to harmful. Fucking dumbass.

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>>158991726
>e-celeb shills & crossboarders have an agenda against it
>the fanbase becomes vocal too
Oh my, ain't that a shocker. But hey, this is likely getting another season so the fanbase wins.

>>158991813
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the hatefags are any better, but you guys aren't doing yourselves any favours by acting equally obnoxious back.

>>158991447
>That's entirely your assumption based on the i. Did you miss the part when she meet him and grow to like his character? Nothing explicitly indicated that she wants to fuck him after "a few interactions".
Are you new to anime or something? When he told her his sob story about his parents and said that it was thanks to her that he made it, she was blushing all over. Then when he said that her food was umai, she was happy as well. If you think this isn't a clear sign of the girl wanting the D, then you should watch more harems.
>MC is as dense as every normal highschooler in real life
You can't be fucking serious. If you want normal teens, go watch Tsuki Ga Kirei. Masamune is not different from countless other similar LN MCs who fails to notice the most obvious signs because plot demands it.
>It's not even revolving around misunderstanding either
Girls want to be around MC because they want his dick and he clearly doesn't notice it until they flat out say it to him. Yes, it does revolve around it.

>>158991766
Im not your "lad" fartface.
For starters it was you who started talking about "being a better harem" when i was talking about how much i dislike all plot point on hold in this series.
And yes deep is pretty subjective when you clearly see a character that has developed while i just see the same dumbass girl girl that just kinda showed up one day.
Is your defintion of deep really just "getting to know the person you are in love with more and get flusteredwhen asked about anything"?

Im not even gonna pick up the last part about fingirls anymore becuse that's 3DPD territory i shouldn't have entered anyway.

>>158992065
fail*

>>158991882
It can't be helped.

Why do people like thing I dislike? Please stop liking thing, it's illegal

i wish the other eps were as fun as the finale
also i feel like the show should have started with the flashback in ep 11

>>158991714
I know, the old excuse "It's a comedy so it's okay to be a piece of shit". GTO is a comedy but it's good, KonoSuba is comedy but it's good, One Puch Man is also comedy and it's good, just because it's a comedy that does not mean it's "okay to be a dog shit", this series failed in all that tries, the Romance is forced and creep, plot is stupid, the comedy is not funny, fanservice is bad Even the fucking fanservice is bad, I think Fate / Illya sucks but at least they know how to do fanservice with children

But in the end I had a good time watching this, for the same reason I liked "The Room"

>>158992065
And what? She was blushing all over mean she literally wanted his dick now? What's wrong with blushing when someone of the opposite sex straightforwadly display his gratitude? And isn't it normal for a crush to develop from that kind of stuff? Not to mention given Elf upbringing and the fact she's fucking 12, you can't blame her for being easy.
>failed to notice the most obvious sign
I'm not saying he isn't dense but his is pretty normal. How about you make an example as to him being retardedly dense? Like Sagiri? Because Sagiri fucking told him directly she has "another person" she loves, what kind of man is conceited enough to believe otherwise if the girl he likes tell him that directly? Then Muramasa? How the fuck is Masamune suppose to connect the dot that she loves him? From his position, there's no reason for him to consider that possibility at the first place. And Elf is pretty straight forward with him, he noticed it and came to term with her confession pretty fast.
Not noticing =/= misunderstanding. And did you miss the other part of the plot like getting his sister out of her hikki problem? His struggle with being a LN author which took up most of the episodes? Romance play a big part in the anime but there are other focuses as well. Also, his "dense" head doesn't even matter that much when he turned them all down anyway and they still pursue him after that anyway.

>>158992598
Everything you stated is entirely opinions empty criticism, not fact. Why don't you elaborate on why exactly do you think it's bad? Pick examples and explain. That was so lazy i don't even want to start picking your point apart.
What the heck is "forced romance"? How is love between a 13 years old and 16 years old creepy? What is "stupid" plot and what is "smart" plot? etc

>>158992065
>Tsuki ga Kirei
>normal teens
In slut land maybe.

>>158992719
>And what? She was blushing all over mean she literally wanted his dick now?
Yes. Again, are you new to harems? Yes, girl blushing after MC said something nice to her means she wants hid dick. Eromanga isn't some kind of well thought out realistic romance, it's a straight up otaku pandering LN where girls don't notice any other boys(or rather, they don't exist at all) around them and only seek attention from MC and no one else.
>I'm not saying he isn't dense but his is pretty normal
>Because Sagiri fucking told him directly she has "another person" she loves, what kind of man is conceited enough to believe otherwise if the girl he likes tell him that directly
What kind of man is retarded enough to not notice that the shut-in girl that gets jealous because you interacted with the other one isn't in love with you? It isn't normal, unless your "normal" means being a braindead LN protag.
>Not noticing =/= misunderstanding
Misunderstanding - an occasion when someone does not understand something correctly. Masamune "didn't understand something correctly" 90% of the time.
>His struggle with being a LN author which took up most of the episodes?
What "stuggles"? The whole premise of being a light novel author is an accessory that may as well not even exist. All of the "struggles" are shallow and extremely predictable.
>And did you miss the other part of the plot like getting his sister out of her hikki problem?
Oh, I'm sorry, I mush have missed it under all of the shitty romance and harem that took 95% of the plot.
>Romance play a big part in the anime but there are other focuses as well.
Romance is the main focus, because, in the end, all of the girls motivations are based around craving the MC's dick.

>>158980408
its just oreimo without bitch sister and MC rejecting all girls

>>158980408
Meme potential. Same reason why some objectively bad shows from last year like Danganronpa 3 and Mayoiga were generally well recieved at least on /a/.

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>the doujin are coming

>>158991813
Why is always crossboarders? Why cant somebody from /a/ not like this show? Same happend with oreimo and you guys even back then complained that only /v/ hates oreimo and true /a/ likes it.

>>158993399
>Yes. Again, are you new to harems? Yes, girl blushing after MC said something nice to her means she wants hid dick. Eromanga isn't some kind of well thought out realistic romance, it's a straight up otaku pandering LN where girls don't notice any other boys(or rather, they don't exist at all) around them and only seek attention from MC and no one else.
Are you stupid? It's true that in the straight harem show like DxD, there are situations when they blush it means they want his dick or whatever but there are also blushes that display shame, affection, anger, whatever and Elf's situation completely fit in the affection case. You have no basis for your claim either. "Every show is like that and this show is of the same genre so it's like that as well". Wow. You are putting the cart before the horse, if you are going to accuse of it being a shitty harem from the start without giving it a chance to justify itself then there's no arguing with you.
>What kind of man is retarded enough to not notice that the shut-in girl that gets jealous because you interacted with the other one isn't in love with you? It isn't normal, unless your "normal" means being a braindead LN protag.
The normal man who isn't confident in his charm and good points, doesn't think highly of himself while revering his crush. Again, you are putting the cart before the horse by assuming it's normal to think Sagiri is jealous of some other girls. Masamune doesn't notice her feeling at the first place, why would he even assume that she's jealous of other girls?
I have seen plenty of people like that, it's fucking normal.

>>158993399
>Misunderstanding - an occasion when someone does not understand something correctly. Masamune "didn't understand something correctly" 90% of the time.
>90% of the time
Thank you for the "accurate" statistic that doesn't even matter. You didn't even disprove that not noticing =/= misunderstanding, there's a lack of knowledge and there's misunderstanding of something. What is there to misunderstand? If he Masasmune doesn't notice their feeling until they spell it out, that's all.
>What "stuggles"? The whole premise of being a light novel author is an accessory that may as well not even exist. All of the "struggles" are shallow and extremely predictable.
It exists to give context and reasons for characters interactions and comedy skits to play out. What struggle? The part about him writing a new piece maybe? Or the part when his works get rejected? Or when he signed up to a competition? And just because you know how it will end up doesn't mean seeing how it play out isn't interesting.
>Oh, I'm sorry, I mush have missed it under all of the shitty romance and harem that took 95% of the plot.
No need to say that, I know you wasn't paying attention.
>Romance is the main focus, because, in the end, all of the girls motivations are based around craving the MC's dick.
It has romance, comedy, drama, all mixed together, you can't remove one of them from the equation and call that focus. More like that's your focus. All the girls are there to pursue romance doesn't make it any less of a comedy, where the reasons for being of a character doesn't matter, or drama, where love is a perfectly valid excuse to being there.

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Note that anybody who doesn't like this show is in the same boat as this

>>158994619
>Charlotte
>10

>>158986156
>metrics universally agreed upon as a measure for art
please list those, because it would solve pretty much every major argument in the world of art and leave art critics without a fucking job. This line alone proved you're a tremendous idiot.
The show is alright, it's not the worst thing in the universe, nor is it the best. It's a show with good art, weird fanservice that can't even feel natural, cute characters that are very annoying or dumb most of the time, and basically a retread of oreimo without either the balls to end with fucking incest, or developing the characters enough to make me give a shit about them. Elf is cute, and she has some semblance of a character. Muramasa is a boring piece of trash with nothing interesting about her except a fucking delusional obsession with masamune. Dicks girl is forgotten for most of the series but she was the closest thing the show had to pushing the envelope. Sagiri is very cute, but also really inconsistent with her character. I liked her in the last episode though. Gay joke-san is supposed to be a friend but has no character. Bookstore girl seems fun, but they didn't use her at all.
The show is uninteresting to watch, and the only reason I finished it was because I like the artstyle and I expected another oreimo. What I got was some uninteresting trash with fun moments that can't even hold a candle to a 7/10 like oreimo. I'd give it a 4/10, maybe 5 after more doujins come out

>>158994619
It's sad to see ALL the MAL reviews are like this. I mean I knew MAL was bad and the anime fanbase as a whole is getting shittier, but goddamn. Literally every review mentions how offended they are.

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>>158994619
>17 whole animes
>charlotte 10/10

>>158995067
>animes

>>158994978
Just another proof that a lot of normalfaggots are getting into anime steadily. The 'lol japan so weird XD' folk being the most obvious.

>>158994978
Not true. There are legit reviews with legit, well constructed analyses & criticism, but most of the community is high school kids and sheldon, so what do you really expect?

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Eromanga is literally, LITERALLY the anime equivalent of the Twilight fan fiction genre that vapid plebeian teenage girls obsess over.

>>158980408
If its purpose is being fun and it actually is fun then it's not trash.

Now I'll wait for the swarms of fedora calling me a post-modernist cuck or something along those lines.

>>158995667
>Not true.
It is true. Even the longer structured critcisms take at least a paragraph or 2 to mention how "disturbing" it is that a 12 year old girl is depicted sexually. I'd be fine with those reviews if they put at least a little more effort towards making it obvious they had a blatant bias regarding the subject matter in the first place.

>>158994619
Angel Beats and Chuunibyou are 10/10 shows though.

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>>158995762
>Twilight comparison
Christ, is it 2008 again? While we're at it, anison is basically the anime equivalent of Justin Bieber, and if you listen to it you're a big poopy head.

>>158995835
Wait what are you talking about? I thought you meant entirety of MAL and not just eromanga.

My mistake I guess. I never read reviews about shows such as this because I know how much idiotism they attract.

>>158995835
>making it obvious
making it less obvious

>>158995952
She might not be my favorite girl, but god damn do I want to read doujins about her.

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>>158980519
>because /a/ has shit taste and likes anything with cute girls
I'd love to see the show exactly re-animated scene-for-scene with this style and see how many viewers drop off.

>>158996256
>implying Nakamura isn't cute

>>158996256
The art doesn't fit the tone of the story at all.

>>158996004
They are both self inserting, wish fulfilling stories that are carried entirely by their fetishized harems. The fact that it is basically a copy of the authors previous work just further supports this notion. Nothing you said refutes this.

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>>158985263
its 4chan. Every autist on here hates anything that the general population likes because they all have to be tsundere hipsters who cant enjoy trashy anime that has a boatload of fun in it.

>>158994559
It's true though.

>>158980408
Its fun. Basically that's all that matters.
A show might have some god-tier writing or popular cast, but if it isn't fun, watching the show will turn into a chore rather than something to enjoy.

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>>158994619
Add him.

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>>158994619
>17 shows

He's so new.

>>158987520
I'll give you a piece of advice m8, if it's harem a good rule of thumb is to assume that all the tropes you see in it are just plot devices. You better hold that a priori assumption until the show proves otherwise. Then and only then can you examine it in any critical way
At least that's what I do.

>>158996992
Yeah and its same with other mediums hell just look at Hollywood. Most people want to be entertained writing comes after that.
You can throw out buzzwords like 'good writing' all you want but If I'm not getting any enjoyment out of it into trash it goes.

>>158980408
is there any kuroneko or saori in this series? if yes, i'm going to watch it.

>>158994579
First of all not him, now girls in DxD do a lot more than blushing, and in other ecchi shows they also do much more explicit things
Elf clearly likes the MC in any case
But you're right, being genre savy and knowing things the MC doesn't know about gives us a huge advantage at figuring these things out
That said he's an LN author he should be as genre savy as us, he is a bit thick

>>158997259
Thats also why we get Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean and whatever god awful franchise installations every year that still manage to print hundreds of millions of dollars.

>>158987520
>It's just as creepy and strange.
Nice non-argument.
Even if you had a point as far as real siblings or stepsiblings who've been raised together are concerned, Masamune and Sagiri have only known each other only for a few years. They're not siblings, they're two unrelated people living under the same roof.

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Ok, so who the fuck is this guy?

>>158997427
>Pirates of the Caribbean
What's wrong with it?

>>158997312
Yeah, Elf likes him, I don't argue with that.
Well, he doesn't know he's a LN protag in a LN so there's that. Blogging time there was a girl who had a crush on me and I noticed but hand waved it, thinking I read to many LN and manga. In any case, in reality, it's hard to tell even if the signs are there.

>>158992955
>Everything you stated is entirely opinions empty criticism, not fact. Why don't you elaborate on why exactly do you think it's bad? Pick examples and explain.

The writing is dogshit.
>>158992598
>this series failed in all that tries, the Romance is forced and creep, plot is stupid, the comedy is not funny, fanservice is bad Even the fucking fanservice is bad, I think Fate / Illya sucks but at least they know how to do fanservice with children

>>158997786
You tried.

>>158997478
A siscon.

>>158994619
myanimelist.net/profile/refladovans

I can't help but laugh.

>>158996951
No it is not. /a/ always had manimefags and moefags. There is no true /a/

>>158997427
>pirates of caribbean
I liked the first movie but i never saw any sequels. I heard it gets worse after first movie, is it true?

>>158999886
No, PoC 2 and 3 were pretty great snd had some awesome moments
PoC 4 was shit though

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>>158997022
The typical MAL reviewer

This finale did not disappoint, lewd level were off the charts, and the ED gag at the end was hilarious

>>158999886
2 and 3 are fine

>>159000107
Looks right.

>>159000277
Felt like an OVA desu.

>>159002279
It pretty much was.

SHAAA! SHAAAAA!

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>>159004788
My heart nearly stopped. Too cute.
SHAAA! GAOOO!

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Right or left?

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Friendly reminder that even though this series is now over, Daiz still prefers Elf over Sagiri.
At the very least though, he has become more lenient to Sagiri and no longer ranks her last, but the bottom line is that for him, Elf is #1.
Think of this what you will.

>>159005187
Left in a heartbeat.

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>>159005187
Both of them can fuck off.

>>159005290
Get a load of this massive gaylord.

>>159005360
Proper choice right here.

>>159005392
>Gaylord
>Gay
>Lord
W-who told you

>>159005360

Sagiri pls

>>158980408
Can we go back to Imouto threads not being plagued by this NBR shit?

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>>159005550
No. NBR or not, she's miles better than Kirino as a character.

>>159006016
I doubt that very much. I doubt she had a nekofag staff sabotaging her show.

Is Sagiri for vanilla sex?

elf was in it.

Why is Muramasa such a trash

>>159006684
>ruri with tits and a haircut

like taking a pile of trash and letting it bake in the sun on a hot summer day

>>159006266
Misread your post at first but anyway, the producers aren't to blame for her character. The author is, her deredere moments in the LN pale in comparison to her violent outbursts.

>>159006813
It doesn't matter. Kirino will be remembered forever and Sagiri will disappear like so many other NBR trash.

What a fucking terrible thread filled with fucking terrible people. Hadn't opened /a/ in months and I just got reminded why, it's literally /tv/-tier now.

>>159006939
That's something only time will tell anon. It's likely too late now, a small group is bound to remember Sagiri as a better Kirino, which in turn is remembered by many as the shit sister who beat nekoshit.

>>158994978
The fanbase was horrible in the first place. More normalfags just make it worse as you said.
>>159006016
She's just as bad as Kirino with the tsundere bull and horrible personality

>>159007266
You clearly don't remember Kirino. I've yet to see Sagiri kick, punch or insult her brother or his friends.

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>introduce the two GOTS
>lmao boring sister wins anyway

6/10

At least doujins will do justice

>>159006734
Don't forget how her personality is nothing like Ruri's.

>>159007458
>lmao boring sister wins anyway

Sagiri isn't boring though. She had the best character development out of every girl in the story.

>>159007531
>She had the most character development out of every girl in the story.
FTFY.

>>158980408
Great art, animation and sound direction, not to mention good shot composition in general. The humor is genuinely funny, and the interactions between the siblings is cute. It's an incest comedy, and it does those things well while remaining tongue in cheek most of the time and never gets bogged down with melodrama. The only reason not to like the show is if you fundamentally have a problem with the incest stuff, in which case I'd tell you to read more of the ancient Greek canon and educate yourself, you silly philistine.

>>158988933
>Rokujouma
>Not about a bunch of girls all lusting for the super special chosen one MC's dick
That series pretends it's not the same haremshit, but it is, and it's fans are idiots.

>>158980408
it was garbage for the sole reason that nobody died a brutal death at the end

Where are the blogposters when we need it.

>>159008859
Offed themselves after seeing sales

>>159008859
I am the guy who rubbed my imouto's legs the other day.

>>159009076
Yeah, sure m8

>>159008096
You can still fix that by killing yourself anon, the season isn't completely over yet

>>158980408
Sagiri is cute.

>>159009768
nice reply did your mommy teach you those conversation techniques?

>>158992111
Lad refers to a boy or young man you dumbfuck. It is not in any way talking to people closely. It's basically dude, man, or boy. As opposed to bro or senpai.

I talked about the creative decisions it took to be a better harem. And this is does not affect them as a character overall aside from the movement of the narrative. You still haven't defined your deep other than bitch about the her initial appearance. Now, I want to clear up something, her initial appearance wasn't random. It was her second appearance.

No, I wasn't talking about deep, you are. You're putting words into my mouth. I'm saying that she has been fleshed out as a character and yes that includes "getting to know the person and getting flustered". Like I've said her motivations for writing, for being the cast, and what drives her has been laid out.

>fingirls
Yeah, can't argue about that cause you're a bitch.