Re:Zero

That is some very pretty artwork.

>>158937210
I really, really like this picture.

Let's be real. Rem is going to lose the Subaru-bowl.
The side stories are all we are going to get.

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>>158937371
Nobody will win the subaru bowl because he will most likely perma die by the end of the series and its gonna hurt watching that shit happen.

>>
next WN chapter when

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>>158941740
LN comparison when

>>158939160
That happened in an IF, anon. An edgy april fools' IF. Subaru won't perma die at the end because he's resolved himself to stand among those he saved, when it's all over.

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Reminder that Rigel is destined to become the strongest.

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>>158944328
And I'm pretty sure Spica is calling him a chuuni in this picture.

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>>158944328
Stronger than Reinharto?

>>158937371
>>158939160

I wish people stop caring about this at some point. There is more stuff going than that and it's not enabling waifuwars by shoving your opinion down either side's throat will have any effect anyway.

It's needless stress for something that will be rendered moot by one word from the author. You will be lucky if Subaru himself doesn't die or something.

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Question, the Black Snake/Serpent was frozen along with the Elf settlement right?

>>158944328
Rigel is not even a full oni. He will be stronger than his dad but never come close to matching his mom's power.

>>158945015
His mother is deficient by being a twin, and Rigel will be trained by ninjas.

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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.

>>158944364
Oh, I see. They're talking about his arm bandages. Rem thinks he hurt himself, and Spica is saying he's just chuuni.

>>158941740
If what I heard about the latest chapter is correct, the next one is gonna be pretty good.

>>158944328
>smart
>Oni powers
>Spirit affinity
>Super ninja and a great spirit as sensei
He has insane potential

>>158937210
Is this like Re:Creators?

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>>158947112
No. If you were expecting every work of fiction with "Re:" in the name to be similar, you'd be wrong.

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>>158947112
Yes.

>>158947053
He is the true Kishin reborn, and will eventually star in his own harem anime to repopulate the Oni race.

>>158947551
Spica's still alive, you know.

>>158947706
You don't fuck your own sister.

>>158947883
where do you think you are

>>158947883
Rigel will stop thinking about forming a harem as soon as Spica says 'no' to him.

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Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru out

>>158939160
Honestly best way to end it, Subaru dies nobody wins. Suffering to the end.

>>158944364
Spica's hair is going to give Rem quite some PTSD oh boy.

>>158948505
>let character suffer endlessly in order to achieve a happy end
>give them a bad end
>best end
that's retarded

>>158948640
I'm bored of happy endings, have Subaru suffer so that things end well for everyone else and he grows as a person, but then he dies. Leave me feeling bitter and nostalgic with the ending.

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I wish the anime hadn't skipped the epilogue in Volume 4. It shows how bros Ferri and Julius are.

>>158948824
A tragic ending less ideal in this case because the story has been a series of near never-ending suffering. Happy ending work well for darker series than lighter more shounenish ones because they feel earned after multiple arcs of traumatic shit. A bittersweet ending wouldn't be bad either, but there is no wrong with a happy note in this case too.

>>158949418
And he's growth as a person pretty independent from that.

>>158950991
Rem's spot is free!
It's Subaru-kun's special seat!!

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>>158937210
Could some nice Anon post that recopilation with all the chapters from Mega ?

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>>158951822
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/mobilebasic

its in there somewhere, find it yourself

>>158951822
https://mega.nz/#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg

>>158951822
https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
Read the available Arc 3 Interludes and Arc 4 chapters on TranslationChicken, and when you run out, move to anon.

>>158952242
how often is that updated? the google doc seems to be more up to date than that, I can't find the Rem IF LN RW is translating

>>158952800
Google Doc has literally everything that has been translated and is being updated every time something new is translated. Pastebin won't be updated.

>>158945141
Say Rem gives birth to twins shortly after to Spica, how many horn would each of the twins have?

>>158953765
one

>>158953921
shouldn't it be a half instead?

>>158954352
a half would still be a horn, just a small one

>>158954633
Are Rem and Ram's horns growing at all? The adult onis' horns seem much bigger and longer than those of the twins so it would be weird if their horns stay small forever.

I don't regard Rem as the best girl. She just loves Subaru because he saved her which happens in almost every anime, boy saves girl and then girl falls for boy. So if we look at it that way then we can clearly see Rem is too mainstream. She even killed Subaru because she was suspicious of him even though she had 0 proof. As for Emilia, I haven't seen any female character as selfless as Emilia. She saved a complete stranger and made sure to tell him he owes her no debt. No girl would do the same thing Emilia did (because in addition to helping the stranger, she made sure that he doesn't feel indebted to her). Rem murdered Subaru two times, but Emilia always cared about him. When Subaru was killed by Rem, he wanted to gain her trust so he worked very hard even though he became sick afterwards. He was broken from inside. He wanted to cry but he couldn't. He couldn't even tell anyone about his problems. No one cared about him since he tried to hide all his misery by putting a pathetic smile on his face so as to win Rem's trust. Even Rem didn't care about him at all. But Emilia saw thru that facade. She forced Subaru to sleep on her lap. She didn't question him or his motives (while Rem killed Subaru for that). She just provided him what he needed the most and after all the love that Emilia showered, Subaru then started to cry. That scene was beautiful. So we can clearly see that Emilia here is the ideal girl.

>>158955170
This is bait, isn't it? There are just way too many details which are completely off.

>>158955419
its pasta

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Every thread until Rem wakes up.

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>>158955419
I imagine that, while Subaru is fucking Emilia and kissing her, Rem is present in the room, assisting the intercourse. "Subaru-kun, do you need more lubricant? DO you need another condo- Oh, I see you are going to cum inside her unprotected, do you want me to order some pregnancy tests to ascertain that Emilia-sama has been impregnated? All I want is for Subaru-kun to be happy with your family"

How can anyone like such a pathetic girl like Rem is beyond me. They must really have something worng with their head.
Not only that, she will probabily be their maid when Emilia and Subaru get married, doing all the chores andd dirty work around the house while Emilia enjoys her life as a goddess. Subaru would probabily use her only as a sex object, as a way of satisfying his basests fetishes that he doesn't want Emilia to partake beacuse she respects her too much. So Rem would become just a eventual fuckhole where to practice anal, bukkake and other desgusting activities, receiving no love and being prohibited of feeling pleasure. And this would go on until she became too old to be of use and Subaru lost interest in her, and she would be dumped in some smelly swamp, and live the rest of her days childless and unhappy until she would die cold and lonely in the slums amidst all the dirt and filthyness.

And above all that Emilia-tan would be shining towards heaven like the true angel she is.

Remfags suck.

>>158955598
whats wrong with you and whats wrong with NTRfags?

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>>158955675
Remfags are just shit. Dumb newfags who fall for pasta and start shitposting angrily.

Do NOT reply to the fucks trying to start shit, any post diminishing Rem or Emilia in favor of the other is obviously baiting for yet ANOTHER thread filled with pointless shitflinging.

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>>158955842
What do you mean by that, anon? That's nonsense.

>>158955842
But it's the only thing that keeps the threads alive

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>>158955675
What's wrong with NTR? I thought it's very enjoyable and alluring.

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>>158955951
I get neither the attraction or the outrage for NTR. What's it all about?

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the good kind of NTR

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>>158956190
NTR is wrong, you nigger.

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>>158956190
Why are there so few fan arts of Rem and Emilia getting jealous of each other? So disappointed that not many people are interested in the "Emilia/Rem is the Jealous Witch" theory.

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>>158956513

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>>158956665
Is Subaru daijoobu?

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>>158956513
I know. It's kinda weird people haven't really picked up on that yet. There's plenty of foreshadowing for it.

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>>158956776
>It's kinda weird people haven't really picked up on that yet
It's been done a dozen times. Most things have been discussed to death already.

>>158957052
I was talking about the fan arts. As far as I know, there're not many fan arts wherein jealousy is the theme at the moment.

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Would you contract?

>>158957694
What are my actual obligations?

>>158955945
Then they are better of dead until translation and somebody feels like discussing something.

>>158955991
NTR

>>158956776
>>158956776
Probably because Emilia's plausible connections to Satella are pretty limited after Arc 4. Even her looks don't come from Satella despite looking identical. Her eyes and hair are from her father and she gets her face from her mother.

>>158957865
Satisfy her endless sexual curiosity.

>>158958252
Look, that sounds like it'd be nice for the first week or so, but I doubt "endless" curiosity is going to end at Vanilla. After the first few months, do you even know what kinds of soul-degrading horrors you might have been forced to experience?

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I hope Ferri and Subaru become bros.

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>>158958252
Roswaal should be her contractor then.

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i only finished animu just now, is there way more content than that on paper? i wonder if i should bother myself enough to look for novels, mangas, whatever, then search for the place anime story was finished, et cetera.

and how far the story progresses? as far as i understand, emilia is somehow the evil witch since puck is contracted to end the world (=kill+reboot protagonist), is it already explained on paper?

i just want to see more puck doing fanservice and comic reliefs. i'd befriend this cat

>>158958644
>i just want to see more puck doing fanservice and comic reliefs. i'd befriend this cat
Puck basically fucks off and is never seen again.

>>158958644
See >>158952242

>>158958707
aaand dropped

>>158958719
oh, so research is already done for me. Thanks a lot.

>>158958789
Puck is still around, and has role rather important role in the next arc. But yeah, his screentime is gonna be very limited.

>>158939160
Who is it that these two refer to as mother?

>>158959433
Probably the assassin guild's boss

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>>158955554
that thumbnails looks like betelgeuse screaming his lungs out with his eyes bulging and horse teeth

>>158958350
>all the things she would want to put inside your butt when you're done with safe bdsm foreplay
I'm gonna have to pass on that one too.

>>158959520
I'm curious about why that person didn't send someone to kidnap or assassinate Meili to avoid her leaking classified information about the organization. I'm also surprised that Subaru couldn't get much info out of Meili. Isn't Meili pretty fond of him?

>>158961702
She probably can't. it might be some weird curse. This mother character is also highly suspicious, perhaps Mother might be Pride.

>>158961702
Meili most likely doesn't even know that much herself.

Also I have a feeling that this Mother and rest of gulid is gonna show up in Arc 7. With being about political spies and shit it would be best places to bring into the story.

>>158963310
>onilet
Perhaps that's why Subaru didn't love her at first sight.

>>158948566
Rem probably styled it herself

>>158965947
This is the real battle for the Subarubowl

>>158969182
Girlfriend vs his steed how classic

>>158969182
>NTR doujin where Patrasche is raped by a male ground dragon while Subaru is forced to watch it.

>>158970105
what the hell

>>158970105
>he expresses extreme distress about it while everyone tells him its normal dragon behavior

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Emilia is a LITERAL GREATEST OF ALL TIME

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>>158972330
Mimi*

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Ram IF story where Rem was never born when? It'd be very neat if Tappei shows us a glimpse of it in arc 6 since that arc heavily involves the twins and the impacts of one's existence on the other.

>>158975265
That'd actually be pretty great. Maybe include it in the actual WN, have the characters see different possibilities.
>If Rem was never born
>If Ram was never born
>If Subaru was never teleported to the world
>If Emilia never froze everyone

Just finished this anime, shit ending, what do I do now?

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>>158976418
Read the actual ending. And enjoy the official art from the manga.

During their first meet, why did Emilia tell Subaru her name was Satella?

>>158937210
How did that asshole end up having a crush on girl, who had killed him because of muh scent?

>>158976418
Go read summary anon's work.

I just finished watching the anime and I wasn't expecting any of that shit, honestly

just be honest with me, anons, how likely is it that this story gets a happy ending? I don't think I can handle any more DESPAIR

>>158976766
It's never just "muh scent", and the scent is a very big deal.

>>158976905
just go read the novel anon stop posting this shit before reading the summaries.

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>>158976505
What a shameful display that is.

>>158977010
It's perfectly natural for a young woman to have certain desires. You can't shame them for that.

>>158976905
See >>158952242

>>158977163
Her look when she's getting a heartboner is so unprofessional and shameful.

>>158972330
Greatest of all time at being a filthy slut

https://youtu.be/xuDp1jq7VFg


lolololol

>>158976558
Read the "Dark lord Subaru" and find out.

>>158976766
Lots of character development that happened in wn that didn't show up in ln. Seriously just stop watching the anime and read the novel. It's more believable.

>>158944158
The two ifs clearly had extreme care put into them, and are very evocative emotionally.
Given the huge response and massive fanarts given to them, I wouldn't be suprised if the author goes for this direction in the main plotline.
Re:zero has always been the absolute best when things get the darkest, a finale characterised by actual loss without returning would etch the story into the LN classics.

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Rate my bf's ferris cosplay

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>>158977010
Subaru nom'd her finger

>>158978453
>This is the average Felixfag
Pathetic

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>>158944364
wrong eye color and why the fuck would she have rem/ram hair style make no sense,
>>158947053
he has not spirit anfinity

>>158976558
Because he was a burden slowing her down so she wanted to scare him and make him run away, taking advantage of supposedly looking like the actual satella, but it didn't work because Subaru as an outsider wasn't aware of any implication

>>158958252

This sounds like fun, until she puts a tentacle into your urethra.

>>158980858

What's really funny is how amazingly awkward it was. It's like if the conversation went like this:

> "What's your name?"
> "It's Hitler. Lady Hitler."

Then they go around town, and he's like "Lady Hitler, look! Maybe that's the girl's parents!"

She must've been thinking "God, now this is awkward."

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>>158978902
Rem's a strong girl

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Ferri eating a fidget spinner.

>>158982004
Damn lewd teens

>>158978902
A little over the top but this is fine

So, what's the difference between the pastebin:
>https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
and the google doc:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/mobilebasic
Someone said the pastebin isn't updated and the google doc will always have everything ? Is this correct ?

>>158983937
The google doc is being updated on a semi-regular basis, while the pastebin isn't, so that's correct, yes.

>>158984199
So I'm guessing the doc is a better resource ? Why do people keep linking the pastebin then ?

>>158944739
It probably was. If they somehow unfreeze it, it may come back to life.

>>158984310
I'd love for Subaru to die a few times trying to figure out how to melt the ice without releasing the snake

>>158984244
Beats me.

>>158888888

>>158976505
Sasuga Subaru

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>>158984244
>>158984606
Because the doc is more explicitly mantained by redditors so anons go ballistic as usual

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>>158984244
I was the one who made the pastebin and occasionally typeset comics, i've been playing the kiseki/trails series recently, and they're long as hell, so i kinda only check the threads from time to time, and i haven't been paying attention to the new stuff i need to add to the pastebin.

Anyone mind telling me what i'm missing at adding? I assume the final chapter of the Rem and Ram backstory, and the currently translated Rem IF chapters?

So did Al mention anything about having memory loss in 4th vol of the LN? Haven't read it yet.

>>158984953
Summary finished Arc 4, the extra arc and started Arc 5, Chicken translated recent Arc 6 chapters and some Rem stuff from Remon

I just finished rewatching the anime, up to date with summaryanon's chapters and I really need s2 right now

>>158985073
Ok, i updated the info. See if it's ok now.

https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6

>>158985366
That's all I remember, should probably also mention the Ayamatsu IF in the Summary mega

>>158985562
>>158985366
>>158985132
>>158985073
>>158985040
>>158984953
>>158984837


is the manga as fucking annoying as the anime? endless 8 shit.

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>>158985754
It's the same story, but it adds a few of the missing scenes the anime didn't include, plus being a manga, it's going to be faster to go through.

>>158986014
the pacing just feels...off.

>>158986226
That's probably on you, since i don't think i ever saw anyone complain about the pacing before. But yeah, in the LN, things happen much more slowly, but that's because it can take it's time explaining even the smallest details.

>>158982004
I expect to see a full page dedicated to those two sleeping together. Or Ram beating the shit out of him when she found out.

>>158970105
Its one thing to mess up his oni its another to mess up his dragon

>>158982004
>Got so excited her horn popped out

I wonder how their first time went. I think Subaru probably couldn't move after that one.

>>158937210
This picture reminds me of the Ending B of Drakengard.
>Subaru brings back Emilia/Satella
>Due to dragon/magic powers getting altered like in the ending B she comes back as a crazy goddess
>Fucks up half of the world
>Reinhard going full Caim path manages to kill one of them along with the dragon
>Series ends with Satella clones spamming everywhere around Reinhard
https://youtu.be/UtixtXyMJ3w?t=11m16s
I need this route to happen now

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>>158986887
Who outstamina'd who?

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Christ! Wilhelm in the latest manga chapter looks like he's about shank somebody right now.

>>158987576

Forgot link
https://twitter.com/Rezero_official/status/879280075555840002

>>158987576
>About to shank somebody

But he is.

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>>158987604

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>>158987311
which doujin is this?

>>158987640
>>158987657
He looks so tame in the anime in comparison, through the fight sequence was still pretty good.

Sword Demon indeed

>>158988016
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60515923

Hasn't been scanned yet.
>>158987657
Where did you find this?

>>158988731
Oh, and if you want a doujin where Rem goes Oni on Subaru on the last page.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1079839/305682b1d4/

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would you lick her horn?

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>>158990556
is this even a question?

>>158986898
By the Q&A, Reinhard fighting Satella would be an endless battle. Neither would die.

>>158988913
What a brilliant punishment strategy from Nee-sama, though Rem seemed almost just as frustrated with the "no cumming" rule as Subaru.

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>>158972330

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>>158978902
I wonder which side story that mangaka would do next. I really want her to do "The best day of Rem's life" chapter so that the "Subaru doesn't love Rem because she killed him" claim can be cleared up. However, the chronological order of arc 2 manga's extra chapters would be messed up so I don't know about that.

>>158993074
>"Subaru doesn't love Rem because she killed him"
People who believe that don't follow the story means they won't read the manga anyways

I would like to see King's game or Alcohol panic next

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I want Ferri to kiss Crusch-sama's shoulders.

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Ferri will kiss Crusch-sama's shoulders.

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Someone here who can translate this comic?

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=63534291

I'm too lazy to download all of arc 4. Can I just read it online, anons?

>>158993984
see >>158952242

>>158994014
Thank you anon.

>>158955598
Pretty good.

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Ram is objectively better than Rem

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>>158994507
You're the only one who believes that, Rem.

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>>158994507
*was

>>158994507
Better than who?

>>158989072
Subaru looks ugly as fuck in the manga. That makes Rem's taste in man even more questionable.

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When Crusch-sama gets her memories back, she will hug and kiss Ferri. But could the story move forward so we get closer to that?

>>158991409
But what if Reinhard would be fighting alongside the dragon?

>>158998258
Then they could probably reimprison Satella.

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>>158995653
>manga
Arc 3 manga art is shit, besides that Rem's love isn't superficial.

>>158999220
Rem just needs a baby man she can breastfeed because her breeding and maternal instincts are kicking in hard.

>>158999693
What is this about and where can i see it?????

>>158999955
its a doujin
https://nhentai.net/g/179021/

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>>159000156

第7章読んだ。ここぞってところで「レム」の名前が出る辺り、やはりスバルにとってレムは精神的支柱なんだなぁ。じーんときた。

それを感じさせたのはスバルがガーフィールと殴り合っていたとき、見えざる手に覚醒する直前です。

エミリアの名前を出し、そして一行空けてレムの名前を挙げた箇所です。一行空けるほどに強調して

いるのが、スバルにとっていかにレムが大切かを示していたんでないのかなと。うん。

こりゃあレムが目覚めたときの感動たるや格別だろうなぁ。いつ目覚めるんだろ…。

>>159000286
context?

>>159000286
>I read Chapter 7. Ren is a spiritual pillar for Subaru as it is where the name of "Rem" comes out at this place. I came.
man google translate really flubbed that one up

>>159000359
Seems like he's talking about the time when Subaru calls Rem's name in the Garfiel fight, right before the Invisible Hand activates.

I wonder how that comes across now that it's the first time Invisible Providence appears, and the earlier hints to it were removed.

At least they didn't remove that part too

Will the anon who made the LN changes doc update it at some point?

>>159002757
>he swears that his feelings towards Emilia would not waver from now on either
>he swears
he literally forces those feelings

>>159002757
Subaru wouldn't be that much of a dick to Emilia.

>>159003132
Why would that make him a dick?

>>159003240
Neglecting Emilia and not caring about her.

>>159003299
Is she a kid or what? He missed Rem for over a year, even Emilia understands that

>>159003355
He's supposed to be devoted to them equally or to Emilia more because as Roswaal said, Subaru's feelings for Emilia are just as much as if not greater than those for the potato.

>>158993074
Subaru loves Rem at this point. He said so himself so that comment wouldn't make sense regardless. The only thing that has any merit he didn't love her before From Zero and that's true, he says so himself. But there is little point in that line of logic because he eventually feel fro her. The same goes with with his relationship with Emilia which happening reverse with Emilia starting fall for him Arc 4 onward. Both of these things started subconsciously after several major conflicts. But sides are trying squabble anything minute detail they can. At point if you accept one side you will have to accept or nothing in the story means anything.

>>159001854
Rem is one of the two pillars that drive Subaru and has made him what he is now. Right in a monologue in Parent & Child he symbolizes his relationship as this:

>Charmed forth by the silver radiance granting him heat, and pushed from behind him by the sky-blue warmth prompting him to walk forward, Natsuki Subaru, whose story was supposed to have come to an end, once again started off from Zero.

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>Local Oni not so tough after boy loses his memory

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>>159003439
>If not greater
>greater
See >>159002757
He has to swear that his feelings for her will not waver. That means it has wavered before, and it is certainly not the last time this is going to happen.

>>159003439
lame bait

>>159003439
>because as Roswaal said,
Roswaal forgot about potato so he wouldn't know about Subaru's feelings for potato at all you dummy. He would only know from what Subaru does or says, and still he wouldn't know exactly how Subaru feels.

>At point if you accept one side you will have to accept or nothing in the story means anything.
What did you mean by this?

>>159003623
You should know by now that reading comprehension isn't their strength

>no more memeboy posts
Where have all the good men gone, and where are all the gods?

SUBARY KYUNNN

>>159003583
forgot quote
>>159003692

>>159002916
No he doesn't.

Even in his deepest subconscious this how he feels about Emilia:

>The silver visage that appeared within his mind, sent a sweetness into Subaru’s heart.
It was a radiance that brought warmth to the stagnating Subaru, who had long been frozen in place.

>Silver――was supposed to be a color of coldness, but to Subaru now, it was a source of endless warmth and the strength to march forward. As though mesmerized by this heat,

That's also in Parent and Child chapter in Arc 4. If these are kind of feelings that can be somehow forced then his for Rem are too.

>>159003299
That's just her anxieties.

>>159003733
You mean, Subawu?

>>159003832
Subawu?

>>159003692
Can't Roswaal "read" emotions or guess them based on his experience? He can read people pretty good.

>>159003797
I'm just saying my opinion to what I read. Him swearing to himself about having feelings for a person is literally a force. He might have feelings for Emilia but it's not the first time that his romantic feelings for her feel very forced to me.

>>159003692
>He would only know from what Subaru does or says

Suabru never tell a known manipulator anything about his love, especially him of all people. It was established in Arc 4 that he knows jackshit about love as he has none for anyone. He's called on it by Subaru and Emilia who tell him why. This like getting advice from a Slave trader about family values.

>>159003913
>Can't Roswaal "read" emotions or guess them based on his experience? He can read people pretty good.
He was completely shocked at Ram being in love with him, I don't know how exactly memory fuckery might have affected this but it should be accounted for.

>>159003907
That's how it's translated in the LN.

>>159004015
exactly, Roswaal would know nothing about Subaru's love for Rem

>>159004029
Pretty sure that Puck and Beako can read emotions and since Roswaal is just as old I thought he might have the same ability but I guess that's a spirit thing now? Seems like Roswaal isn't a consistent character.

>>158978902
What does the bubble say? I can't really tell which scene this is

>>159003913
>Can't Roswaal "read" emotions or guess them based on his experience? He can read people pretty good.

No because Roswaal ultimate self-centered to understand anyone. He didn't even know Ram seriously loved him and contract between ddint' even matter.

Subaru's feelings are the ones that matter, they don't stop matting because it's not what you hope to hear. You're just grasping at straws at that point.

>I'm just saying my opinion to what I read. Him swearing to himself about having feelings for a person is literally a force. He might have feelings for Emilia but it's not the first time that his romantic feelings for her feel very forced to me.

That's nonsensical. Reaffirms of love and other personal commitments are very common in stories and I've seen nobody think this didn't they love their partner. Its' never lead people stop loving each other. What you're saying is pure sophistry. This kind of toxic behavior primarily driven by bias this commuity could do less of.

By that logic Subaru gonna stop being Rem's Hero since he's repeated before.

>>159004096
Only spirits could ever do that. Roswaal has only ever been a human with a lot of magical power.

>>159004383
Can you stop acting so pseudo intellectual while having trash grammar? I can say my opinion on whatever subject I want to and I don't need your biased statement on how my opinion doesn't matter. You're not even a help here desu. Fact is that it feels forced to me, and it's not the first time. I will stop responding to you because you don't seem like a person with whom a conversation will end anytime soon.

>>159004489
We don't really know enough about him to say that though. Humans usually can't body swap. He might be a spirit and we just don't know it.

>>159004332
Probably after the scene where Roswaal gave her permission to observe Subaru without restricting herself

>[Roswaal: You have a face filled with determination even without me saying anything, but I’ll dare to clearly give my orders. Rem, I give you the role to observe Subaru-kun……or rather, I give you the role to watch over him so that he doesn’t do anything unreasonable.]

>[Rem: In other words, Roswaal-sama, you’re giving me that? A just cause?]

>[Roswaal: You’ve really bent the meaning of your circumstanceees. But, I don’t dislike it.]

>[Rem: You’ve ordered to me to watch over Subaru-kun, as someone who does my best to avoid stepping on Subaru-kun’s shadow and avoid breathing in Subaru-kun’s breath as much as possible, at morning at night, every day.]

>[Puck: You restrict yourself like that? I didn’t know that.]

>>159004652
Then you admit you just making excuses blow up another ship in-exchange for the one you want. You even thrown some pointless remarks about my grammar because you have no else to you shallow and toxic reasoning.

The story doesn't care what you think is forced, be it Rem, Emilia or any other relationship in it for whatever excuse you come up with it.

>>159004808
>We don't really know enough about him to say that though. Humans usually can't body swap. He might be a spirit and we just don't know it.

We know enough. We saw his past and Betty explains what he did is just soul transfer which isn't even something created by him. The only surprising thing is he solved the reason why it failed in the first place. Otherwise it's just a spell which isn't specific to him, he and Echidna are just the only ones who know about it.

>>158970105
Stop

How is it possible for someone who has been here for over half a year now (maybe even longer?) and who supposedly has read all translated chapters to still have such horrific English skills? ESL's learning ability seems to be zero.

>>159005268
>who supposedly has read all translated chapters
thats the thing, he didn't

i don't get it what's the problem now?

>>159003583
>Rem is one of the two pillars that drive Subaru and has made him what he is now.
I wonder in what way Emilia influences Subaru's character and personality. Because I just feel like becoming "Emilia's knight" doesn't have as many impacts on Subaru as becoming "Rem's hero" for some reason. But then, I might be missing something here so I'd appreciate it if you can explain to me how Emilia helps shape up his character and makes him who he is now.

>>159005847
Basically Emilia is what gives him an ambitious goal in life

>>159005940
Pretty much this. It gives him a direction to push towards. Being determined as Rem's hero doesn't get him to do much unless he's in a position for bullshit that needs a hero.

It's not that hard to see that Subaru's dedication to Emilia comes from him thinking that by being the main characters of the story they're supposed to eventually get together

>>159005940
Is that goal still "I will make her the kingdom's ruler"? I feel as if he's forgotten it since it's not been mentioned again for so long.

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>>159006087
>Being determined as Rem's hero doesn't get him to do much unless he's in a position for bullshit that needs a hero.
Being Rem's hero has not much to do with doing heroic stuff all the time but to meet Rem's expectations. He constantly has to try his best in every way to be her hero, not saving random people unless they are in front of him.

>>159006087
>It gives him a direction to push towards. Being determined as Rem's hero doesn't get him to do much unless he's in a position for bullshit that needs a hero.
Rem's Hero is what pushes him forward.

>>159006193
The disappointing part about that "goal" is that he decided it before he even knew anything about Emilia or the other candidates. This goal is based on a crush and some weird protagonist delusions. His LN fantasies about how he is a designated protagonist who MUST save and help the poor but beautiful mysterious girl who gets discriminated.

>>159006363
Forward, yes. But in what direction? Without Emilia, he'd have no reason to involve himself in politics or the witch fuckery that follows her.

Did wanting to be Emilia's knight push him to the successful loop in Arc 3? Did wanting to be Emilia's knight push him to the successful loop in Arc 4?

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>>159006574
>Forward
>But in what direction

>>159006298
Actually I see something different. Being Rem's hero actually lets him stay on the path of being a hero. That shit in arc 5 would have made many scared shitless, they weren't dealing with a single Archbishop but 7 (Greed, Wrath, Gluttony X3 and Lust) and he still persevered. Could you imagine pre From Zero Subaru dealing with this shit?

>>159006574
>But in what direction?
Being as good as he can be.

>>159006606
conversely without Emilia he wouldn't be involved in the first place with the events he had to overcome in those arcs

>>159006679
The journey matters more than the destination.

>>159006535
Its an interesting parallel. The more Emilia falls for Subaru, the more Subaru loses feelings of love for Emilia.

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>>159006655
>they weren't dealing with a single Archbishop but 7 (Greed, Wrath, Gluttony X3 and Lust)
but that's 6

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>>159006655
The last part of my sentence should have answered your question. Rem doesn't expect/want him to run into dangerous situations just so he can be an actual hero, she just wants him to always try his hardest and to save and help people he cares about.

>>159006626
Forward is relative to the direction you're facing.

>>158944134
Is betty going to be saburu's contracted spirit?

>>159006869
Did you read Arc 4?

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>>159006793

>>159006946
That's right tho

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>>159006761
A simple mistake. When I talk about sins the number 7 floats in my head.

>>159006761
Isn't Subaru himself a Sin Archbishop?

>>159007047
He doesn't hold any position within the Witch Cult so no

>>159007047
He doesn't hold any position within the Witch Cult so no

>>159006655
Rem doesn't care about heroes doing heroic stuff, otherwise Reinhard would be her crush. Rem's hero is someone who is weak and fragile but has a strong will and tries his hardest to improve himself and never gives up in hopeless situations.

Just looking at twitter a bit. Seems the Otto scenes got cut down a lot.
>早く進むなーと思ったら、オットーのがかなり省略、他にも省略されてわかりやすくなった箇所が多いね
>オットーの奮闘が知りたければみんなWebへごー！！！
>やっとスバルが強くなった(？)ね( ᐛ )

>>159007612
god fucking damn it this story is going to be a fucking skeleton

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>>159007612
And another one falls for the elf to shine

>>159007674
Well, I looked at what other people have been saying about it. One review says some things were made clearer, which he thinks is good, but the fights with Garfiel all seem to have been cut down. So that part apparently wasn't really improved at all.

>>159007777
Hold your horses. We don't know if Tappei changes the story in favor of the half-elf or not. I'll be extremely disappointed if he does, though.

>>159007917
Him changing the story to favor the elf around here is meme, but there is some truth to it. The anime favored her heavily and now the LNs are being edited to be more in line with the anime.

>>159007777
Unfortunately it has the opposite effect on me. I start to dislike her more with every sacrifice other characters have to make.

>>159007612
Betty is gonna be the next one probably

>>159007777
Who knows? I'm not going to assume the worst quite yet. Puck being less shady and irresponsible is disappointing, since that was an interesting part of the dynamic, and I do lament the loss of a lot of memorable scenes.
>>159008026
I hope not. Whatever the case, people still think Otto is really cool in this book, and think the book itself is really good. Though I'm still going to wonder if it was all actually an improvement in the end. Did adding Meili in earlier improve those scenes, or just make things less confusing for when she appears in the end?

>>159008026
And Ram too I think. Fuck, I hate this so much.

>>159008152
They already cut out her ultimatum, and the scene where Otto is convincing her to join has been cut. But in her favor, she got a new scene where she's about to leave her sister to die.

Anyhow, most of the positive points people bring up, in relation to changes, seems to be that things like character motivation are clearer. I'm probably going to check on 2ch to see if there's anything interesting mentioned there.

>>159003797
Wasnt this in arc 4 yhe first trial where a blue light overtook it?

>>159008301
Does Roswaal still steal her heart in LN?

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>>159007612
I am holding my anger, but I swear I'm trying to keep it contained. However if these changes are confirmed true and lots of other and better characters are getting their moments cut just to give the half-elf gets more screentime, I might lose it.

>>159008433
I'm pretty sure Emilia also loses some scenes. I'll go look around.
>>159008430
I think so.

>>159008426
Pretty sure it was, but you know how people like to remove context for scenes

>>159008426
Overtook it? Didn't it match it?

>>159006574
Really just self improvemwnt, even without Emilia's influence he still strives for it

>>159008624
That's true, but he's unlikely to be involved in a major political struggle if he's not Emilia's Knight.

>>159008620
>—Not even Subaru himself had realised that this was what laid in him.
>Facing and exposing the innards of his heart, putting it into words, Subaru for the first time realised the ugliness of his own heart. How minuscule he was, in his unwillingness to recognize his weaknesses and idiocies, in his averting his eyes, in his attempts to push even this onto someone else, made him feel sick.
>That Subaru nevertheless would complete things without giving up on himself, without abandoning himself, was because had a support.
>???: <Well, I love you, Subaru-kun!>
>A dim, flicking blue light now overlapped with the silver face beneath his eyelids.
>A gentle breeze blew into Subaru's heart, filling his chilled limbs with warmth, restoring him.
>???: <Let's start from here. From step one... no, from zero!>
>Saying that, she pushed forward a Subaru who was supposed to have ended.

>>159008751
That's "overlap".

>>159008838
Its more or less the same thing.

I am really confused by this thread does Subaru love Rem now? What about Emilia? What's with this Roswaal stuff? Can someone tell me the plotpoints here?

>>159008869
Not really.
>>159008984
Anime Arc 3 is cut down a lot, for a number of reasons, and so it leaves out a lot of little details relating to relationship development and characterization. Subaru's growing emotional attachment and dependency towards Rem is definitely more extreme in the WN. This, along with how Rem is depicted as more observant and cunning, results in some shenanigans where Subaru gives her a quasi-confession two days after From Zero and a proper one right after the whale fight because Rem thought that was the perfect time to show off her acting skills and rehearse a tragic death scene.

>>159008984
see >>159002757

>>159005591
Just "some" salty Remfags like this guy >>159005433 accusing others of not reading the story even said person posted the passage would only known about it... by reading it in the first place.

Basically they have did stop making sense and using it as defense.

>>159005940
Correct.

>>159006087
Rem gives him the courage to stand up when he falters and thinks he can't do something.

It's why this Emilia vs Rem isn't an either or thing for him.

>>159009228
o·ver·take
verb
past tense: overtook
1. catch up with and pass while traveling in the same direction.

o·ver·lap
verb (used with object), overlapped, overlapping.
1. to lap over (something else or each other); extend over and cover a part of; imbricate.
2. to cover and extend beyond (something else)

Nevermind, it doesn't mean the same thing.

>>159006106
No, the meta logic has nothing with it. He genuine wants be by her side for same basically reason as Rem does for him: love. Hell this applies to Roswaal with Echidna or Ram with Roswaal.

The difference is how Subaru, Rem go about is much more positive and healthy compared to Roswaal who deserves everything he gets coming for trampling other people's lives and won't accept Echidna as being anything other than perfect.

>>159009527
Or you could have lurked these threads over the hundreds of times this has been discussed. Even sitposter-kun quotes parts of the story but that doesn't mean he reads it either. The amount of times people like you have quoted such scenes without proper context baffles me really.

>>159009745
Its almost as if they're rejecting elements of the story to push their ship. Oh wait.

>>159009869
Everyone here does that a bit.

>>159006535
>he disappointing part about that "goal" is that he decided it before he even knew anything about Emilia or the other candidates

He decided that because shown early on that cares about other people, something he's benefited for perosnally numerous reasons.

Here is a passage in Arc 4 where this is reinforced:

Arc 4 ch 13
>Just like that, Emilia’s ability to place others before herself was beyond estimation. Even after deciding to face the unknown dangers of the Trials, she was already worrying about the villagers and the others.
>It was her strength, and her fragileness, when she is like this, that made Subaru so drawn to her.

Even Crusch the best of the other candidates would willingly sacrifice others for her goals, but Emilia wouldn't leave a kid aside. This aligns with his own ideology and why Suabru was so concerned whether Emilia still helped that Kadomon's daughter in Arc 1 or not.

>>159010220
Nice excuse

>>159007612
Otto had a bunch of scenes where he didn't do much other than taking so I don't understand some of faux outrage here. Characters have been having scenes cut added since the LN started. Some of you are really annoying about this. Otto still had a huge amount screentime in this volume including his backstory according to the other impressions.

People like him a lot after this book now.

>>159010408
>Even Crusch the best of the other candidates would willingly sacrifice others for her goals
That's kind of something necessary in a ruler.

>>159010885
Emilia betraying Subaru to save her village when?

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>>159009527
Because you contradict yourself and ask for evidence every damn thread, you even make false claims and use the wiki as one of your sources for evidence. Not even that after literal days of arguing with you you dismiss everything and say that we're the delusional ones. You are also the same person who thinks Subaru and Emilia's relationship is on par with Rem's and was healthy before you became a laughingstock. They aren't dismissing you and not making sense, its because people got tired of arguing with you not making any sense at all.

>>159009745
These chapters are on Chicken's site, and while you guys here primarily related on Anon's translated detail summaries. Beyond that you no proof who read anymore then I do you. I can say haven't read either and deny any you proof you claim fro the very same reasons.

>>159009869
>>159010220
What elements am I rejecting? I posting what literally comes out of Subaru's mouth and heart while you saying things Subaru didn't making claims about feelings he never felt.

I don't need to reject his feelings Rem, show that he loves Emilia because as he said and shown he loves both for different reasons. But hey we need to keep squabbling more over nothing right?

>>159010990
A lot of what you're saying there is kind of just a matter of opinion. It'd be easier to bring up how he was arguing yesterday about a plot point relating to Oni that he wasn't even aware of.
>>159010955
Not sure what circumstances would necessitate that. However, a ruler that won't make sacrifices must be either absurdly powerful on their own, or else they're going to fuck up. Crusch can't just give help to everyone in need, because that aid comes straight from the pockets of her tax payers.

>>159010990
>Subaru and Rem
>relationship

hahahahah oh wow

>The one who cucks and the cuckold
>relationship

>>159011086
>I don't need to reject his feelings Rem
This is rich coming from a guy we've argued half a year about this with. Plus context is a thing that exists in stories which you otherwise have no clue of. You quote stuff for the first trial without taking into account previous iterations and post iterations of what is going on. You conveniently leave stuff out and never read between the lines.

>>159011225
Isn't Rem technically the one trying to do some cucking?

>>159010885
Maybe, but Subaru doesn't like it which is my point. He let Crusch know that. Emilia aligns with him ideologically which part of choosing a political from is:ideas.

>>159010990
I've done no such thing nor can you prove any of you claims of I doing so. Even then polling information from wiki (which is extremely generalized, because not a transltion) is completely fucking fine. We did that all the time in old we had translations going on and that hasn't changed. So vilfying makes no sesne by any stretch of imagine.

You can also read both the wiki and direct translations (especially the wiki aren't very detailed) so you're just making shitty excuses you can't back up to discredit what even actual fucking WN and LN/

I don't really give a shit what some stranger thinks I'm doing or not. It doesn't change what is in the text which I'm proof and there nothing you can do about and you know it.

>>159011165
Oh right, he thought that all Onis can smell the Witch's scent or something.

>>159011440
>I love Emilia
>Tried to kiss Rem
Wow, not only is Emilia waifubait but now she's a cuck too.

>>159011567
>I've done no such thing nor can you prove any of you claims of I doing so
>Even then polling information from wiki (which is extremely generalized, because not a transltion) is completely fucking fine
Anon, I hope you understood you've just admitted to your crimes by replying in the way you did.

>>159011165
>A lot of what you're saying there is kind of just a matter of opinion. It'd be easier to bring up how he was arguing yesterday about a plot point relating to Oni that he wasn't even aware of

Which I never said I read. I even stated that I have only read the manga veriosn of Arc 1-3 and watched the anime which was available The rest I read the WN translations which are like right there. There is no conivable reason for somebody not magically not "because reasons".

>>159011357
Again proof or stop strawmaning. Tell me where I said Subaru didn't love Rem. Post where I denied his own words. Unlike you continues make excuse for him not loving Emilia even now despite everything. Put up or shut up.

>>159011567
>Maybe, but Subaru doesn't like it which is my point. He let Crusch know that.
That was back when he was being a shithead. He later realized that putting her own people first was part of her duties as a ruler, and that she couldn't just lend support without thinking of what it'd cost them. Even if she wanted to help, which she did.

>>159011165
>Not sure what circumstances would necessitate that.
Something something about Pandora and the "key" I guess?

>>159011782
>Which I never said I read.
That's not the issue. That piece of trivia was vital to understanding what people were talking about, because the entire theory is built on that part. People also brought it up multiple times during the discussion. I don't see why you would get involved if you didn't actually know what people were talking about. That was just confusing.

>>159011706
WTF. Of course I've look at the wiki. I was doing that all the time\e until we git proper translations. I was reading the manga before the anime even happend.

How the fuck is that crime? How the fuck reading the wiki prevent me from reading direct translation? The wiki doesn't even give chapter names or quotes so where I know where to pull out my information?

Heck some of you guys have even what about the things I post yet I haven't read what I these specific things?

>>158998297
Isn't a Sage also needed to seal Satella?

>>159012057
Not what I entirely meant but sure, reading the wiki isn't a crime, but it does reveal your identity and what posts you've been attached to. lashing out in such a way is just making the hole you made even deeper.

>>159011795
Yes, but he never agreed with her decision. He only understood why she might have made it. That's Roswaal's so pissed off at him at end Arc 4. He choose not sacrifice anybody for his goals even if it might have been the optimal solution and he succeed. Echidna realized that he always take the hardest path doesn't result anyone as much as possible. So no wonder that they align in that view because they no longer believe in giving up after their development.

>>159012030
I'm not sure what you getting at here. I don't participate in every thread. Besides that I never denying anything in IF happened, just whether it would be important or not. There a lot of things in the various side stories that connect to the main plot like what lead to Crusch deciding she wanted to Lungica from the Dragon's influence but all of them have "as you know" to explain play no big role otherwise. What happened with Oni's or Betty's ability to smell the Witch's scent is the same thing, It's not kind of information you especially needed know which I was skeptical about being anything other than lore. I thought it was pretty reasonable stand to take without discrediting that tidbit.

>>159011782
I can give you entire threads of you doing such a thing, be it yesterday's, the day before yesterday or when you were starting to become prominent during when chapter 79 was released, all in desuarchive. But if you are who I think you are based on this post >>159012057 you were one of the circlejerkers from spfag's group.

>>159012456
It does not such thing unless you dealing with an imbecile. Knowing some shit form wiki which plenty of people have and were read didn't stop a single one of reading the translation. Me included.

>>159012454
It hard to say, but probably necessarily. It might just be the most viable way.

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>>159012777
Anon I...

>>159012711
Again there no proof. Not even what happened would be proof entirely because I never said I read the IF.

Fact of the matter is cant' counter any my examples from WN that support my point, so your trying to make strawman out of me to change the subject and somehow discredit text. No man it doesn't work like that. No matter what you say about me the text no less true. Get over it.

>>159012654
>He choose not sacrifice anybody for his goals even if it might have been the optimal solution and he succeed.
He sacrificed people by sending an army against the Whale and Witch Cult. Sacrifices will always be made.

>>159012938
I never even claimed you never read the IF but thanks for admitting so, plus you never read arc 2-3 either apparently, considering Rem had a monolouge about it in both the Wn, Ln, and manga. Plus I already stated my proofs and where to look, I'm also pretty sure you can type ESL-kun or just ESL and see the whole slew of shit you posted over the span of an entire year. Even transcriber anon had enough of your shit in one of the threads because of how ignorant you were.

>>159012936
Tons of people have read the wiki here. With that in mind trying to make something out of is dumb. What part do you not get in that point? I don't even site the wiki unless it is about very general information.

Nothing I posted like such as this >>159003797
or this >>159010408 came from the wiki. There is no way to find this content by looking at it either.

Let me say it again. This passage does not come from the wiki and cannot be found using it. You have read the material to know about because it very specific. So why does reading the wiki some bluemoon ago like most people here matter again?

Because this conspiracy theorist must know me>>159012711 and how I do things way better then myself. Surely he can prove the information can be found wiki thus prove I haven't read the direct translation.

>>159013296
I'm not either of those anons but you look like someone who is trying really hard to cover his tracks right now to be honest and using the wiki for a source of info is not good as it does not provide proper context or many scenes and I've only ever seen one anon who actively uses and reads the wiki as a source despite the web novel being translated I've only ever seen one person so far who uses it as reference nowadays

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>>159003609
Ram right now must be feeling the same way as Barusu did after having a fight with Emilia and then feeling totally lost and alone in arc 3. And Julius too I imagine. Now that Barusu is gone, I really wonder if they could find someone to trust and count on.

>>159012654
>I was skeptical about being anything other than lore. I thought it was pretty reasonable stand to take without discrediting that tidbit.
Lore tends to have a certain presentation, and this wasn't presented as lore. This here was clearly presented as speculation fuel. People who hadn't read the WN wouldn't recognize Capella's speech mannerisms. Nothing clearly establishes that the same thing was done to Rem, besides the fact of Rem's similar circumstances and shared symptoms. Oh, and "Quota finished!" indicating that there was some purpose behind this act.

There is no clear lore there. It doesn't have much clear relevance in the IF story itself. All it does is raise some questions that fans are going to want to see answered.

>>159013176
> plus you never read arc 2-3 either apparently

That's not what I said
>>159011782
> I even stated that I have only read the manga version of Arc 1-3

So I can paly the same game you are just say your full of shit? This best example trying strawman me. Not only that but basically just talking over me, so I think I'm just gonna ignore you know.

>>159013054
That was not a sacrifice. Subaru pulled a coalition effort that involved common interest and agreements. Subaru would help Crusch and Anastasia slay the White Whale and share mining resources and they would in turn help him with the Witch Cult problem. This would be like saying something as basic paying or trading sacrifice.

Which would mean everyone is constantly sacrificing and the word loses all meaning. That word often in giving up something irreplaceable.

>>159013610
Fun fact: He felt worse after Rem mentioned she was helping him on the Clown's orders, and he started questioning if she really believed in him. It even had a variation of that same line about being "alone for the first time". Then he basically passed out from stress.

It's fun seeing how melodramatic Subaru can be.

>>159013296
Again, what you miss and conveniently leave out is context and the following or previous events up to that silver scene, not only that you also did not take into context what the previous anon posted before that anon, you are to focused on the part where he says he forces those feelings which is true, the strength of his feelings towards Emilia is forced. The second post is what drew Subaru to Emilia as kindness is one of the few things Emilia has going for her. Which I don't deny.

>>159013725
>considering Rem had a monolouge about it in both the Wn, Ln, and manga
>Manga

Full of shit huh? I believe it is you who is talking over me.

>>159013487
> using the wiki for a source of info is not good as it does not provide proper context or many scenes

Exactly! And haven't used any wiki source for specific examples for that reason unless Chicken's and Anon's translations count as wiki now. I even listed the Arc and chapter name. So what I don't know what is the problem.

This. is. dumb.

>>159013725
>That word often in giving up something irreplaceable.
What is irreplaceable? Is not every life irreplaceable? Or does that only count if they're people you're familiar with and attached to? In that case, how is Crusch sacrificing anyone by letting some village be destroyed?

>>159013841
Well, going by the chain of posts it eels like you are trying to avoid the original point of that anon's argument, or at least seem to have forgotten it, as I too am also accusing you.

It would be pretty fucked up if the author decided to kill rem and then he made a checkpoint right afterwards don't you think? He wouldn't do it though, r-right?

>>159013619
You can certainly speculate based lore. I'm not denying. In fact I'm not any theorycrafting from it regardless if it will come true or not, but some people in that thread where super certain major was gonna come out of it.

My point we have had similar revelations in these side novels.

Remember Priscilla's last husband Leip?

Well apparently he has Sphinx's body, but that is not mentioned anywhere in MU. All it is known that she disappeared and despite the reader learning the truth of what happened to her not much done with in MU other explaining where Sphinx had come from after Arc 4 happens. Leip is still alive so something might happen there or might not, but the precedent isn't exactly new.

>>159014114
At this point almost everybody expects Rem to die at some point in the series, I personally think that will be the mark where Emilia's heroine status will be revoked once arc 9-10 hits.

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Still sinking eh?