Studio Trigger to Announce New Titles

Imaishi's new mecha.

After KLK I am not excited for it.

>>158929809
Trigger's Patreon account I assume, Tattun has finally taught the Japanese how to make money on the Internet

if repeating digits, Inferno Cop 3

>>158929969
Did he manage to finally set up an account?

>>158930130
Dunno if it's already set up, but it's been cleared with the studio and Yoshinari was going to work on some physical rewards for patrons

>>158929809
upload this book pls

>>158929809
As long as it's an original I'll be fine with it; if they just do some more ho-hum adaptations disembodied from their own janky-funky-studio vibe then it might as well be from anyone.

It kind of sucks pondering here we are in 2017 and this is the last nugget of Gainax. In 2000s up through early 10s it was pretty much undisputed that Gainax was the king to many, and now they're kind of an afterthought that have some seeming promise but keep fucking blowing it in some way/shape/form. I guess we should be happy something is around from them at all.

>>158930322
>original I'll be fine with it
Because Kiznaiver was such a big hit, right?

>>158929809
I would want LWA2 or KLK2 for sure.

I wouldn't mind PS2 but this time the devil sisters would be the new two leads who would be looking for PS.

I don't care much about Luluco show since I dislike Nova and would prefer someone else to be Luluco love interest.

>>158930408
Well, I'm just assuming that they learned their lesson from that and won't go for some shitty omni-pandering design again.

>>158930036
well there's doubles, but they're not at the end.

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>>158930304
>upload this book pls
not willingly to pull it apart for good quality scans.
its a really nice book tho. good quality paper, a luluco bookmark as gift too

>>158929809
Both sequels and new stuff will be good. Just no shitty LN adaptations, for fuck's sake.

>>158929809
>The """Art""" of Trigger
top lel

>>158930558
Gotta do whatever it takes to keep themselves alive.

>>158929809
New anime that leads up to revealing Trigger Girl #2 and/or #3
Trigger Girls itself
Inferno Cop season 2
LWA OVA 3 or Chariot spin-off

>>158930809
>Inferno Cop season 2
>he doesnt know

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Ninja Slayer 2

I miss her

Excited for Imaishi's new series. Then there should be that one anime by a "guest director" they mentioned before.
But probably I'm most curious about FLCL 2.

>>158930322
I'm fine with Gainax being this obscure hipster studio making an airsoft girls manga into a dark psychodrama and a car ad into the best mahou shoujo of the new century. The Khara thing can only make them more humble and wise.

>>158930558
Inou Battle was better than Kiznaiver though.

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Please don't make Ino Batoru S2.

>>158931820
Both are shit so it doesn't matter

>>158931853
Yeah but Inou Battle was fun and watchable and I actually really cared when they cut that chick's hand off, not like it was a masterpiece or that I'd watch it again but that entire scene where he's bullying the loli was probably more fun that any single interaction in Kiznaiver.

>>158931767
>the best mahou shoujo of the new century
Gainax made Princess Tutu?

>>158931820
No, it wasn't.

>>158931358
>But probably I'm most curious about FLCL 2.
I doubt Trigger are involved in that.

Inferno Cop: 20/10
LWA: 10/10
KLK: 9/10
Inou Battle 5/10
Ninja Slayer: 6/10
LWA 2: 7/10
Kiznaiver: 4/10
Luluco: 8/10
LWA TV: 6/10

>>158931982

Id have probably liked Inou more if Mirei was a more central character. the other girls where kind of..eh.

>>158930252
Don't lie to me Anon, my heart can't take it

>>158930322
Children should eclipse their parents.

>>158929969
Will trigger actually deliver or it will become the Sp00ny of anime?

>>158929809
After the mess that were KLK, LWA, and Kiznaiver (does anyone actually remember that Okada turd?) my goodwill has dried up.

Hire some decent writers Imaishi or don't bother making a new show

>>158932629
>plotfaggotry

KLK was visually stunning and had a lot of clever camera work
Kiznaiver and LWA are more traditional in this respect but they are still one of the better looking shows of their respective seasons

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Midori is love.

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>>158932689
>a anime does not need a plot as long as it shoves tits and asses in my face

>>158932629
>KLK
>mess
Look, a retard.

>>158932736
KLK was exceptional. You're bad and you should feel bad.

https://twitter.com/sushio_

Sushio has been teasing some KLK stuff it seems

>>158932629
>After the mess that were KLK, LWA, and Kiznaiver (does anyone actually remember that Okada turd?) my goodwill has dried up.
THIS.
I don't hate this studio but Trigger is clearly drown into mediocrity. Overrated as hell.

Trigger's best stuff was always the stuff they didn't pour much budget into.

Trigger should stick to making like 6 shorts instead of a full length show. I like trigger though.

Luluco is unironically the best show Trigger has made

>>158932895
/thread

>>158932753
>>158932772
Awful taste. Shit Le shit was a complete disappointment. I wanted to like it so bad too, yet it was a train wreck only liked by 9gag memesters.

>>158933008
You must be really slow to be confused by KLK.

>>158930304
infernu coppu

>>158932792
Where?

>>158932736
>implying KLK didn't have a plot
>implying tits and ass mattered after the first few episodes

>>158933078
What? I never said I was confused by it. Just disappointed by how god awful the story, characters, fights and comedy were.

>>158933251
The series literally ends in a giant naked pile. Go ahead and type some bullshit essay you parroted from tumblr about how it's not supposed to be sexy now.

>>158932792
He's been teasing a piece of Momoiro Clover Z art

>Infero Cop S2
>New Imaishi mecha series
They might as well not announce anything else. It wont live up to these.

>>158929809
Trigger is a failure of a studio.

flop season 2

>>158933251
>implying KLK didn't have a plot

KLK had a nonsensical plot that kept introducing and dropping dozens of plot points with no clear goal in sight, with every member of the cast becoming a parody in the 2nd cour

>>158933258
>>158933386
>nonsensical
>no clear goal
Retard alert
Are you even capable of dressing yourself without help?

>>158933386
They were always fucking parodies

>>158933298
>Go ahead and type some bullshit essay you parroted from tumblr about how it's not supposed to be sexy now.
What the fuck are you even saying?
I meant they showed us tits and ass too much it stopped being interesting. Seeing Ryuuko nearly naked for the 34637th time doesn't do anything anymore, it's just her regular suit ready for action.

If you only see it for fanservice after watching the whole thing you missed the point. The naked pile wasn't meant to be arousing either.

>>158933573
>Looking too much at naked girls means you never find them hot again
No anon I think your just gay.

>>158933644
Misreading.

Luluco and Ninja Slayer S2.

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>>158933497
>You killed my father Satsuki
>No wait lets retcon that Nui killed my father
>No wait my father was an asshole
>I'm angry now so I will run to my mother
>No wait I'm not angry anymore and I am sorry for running away
>Remember then Senkestu died but then he got better?
>Wait what happened to the brown butler girl in the end? Oh shit we better make a final-final episode about her and a giant robot
>Hey what about that mcguffin bullet we foreshadowed or that whole secret organi.... ah who cares

Clearly the plot is to complex for the average mortal

It will be one of the trigger girls shows.

>>158932122
I really liked Kiznaiver. It just wasn't very "Trigger-like".

Inou Battle was better left unmade though.

>>158933776
I might be wrong, but didn't KLK's production get fucked half-way through and a lot of the story was rewritten from what they originally had planned?

>>158933672
What ever you say gay boi

Yea guys if KLK is shit i cant imagine what modern anime you like

>>158933921
Umaru-chan

>>158933921

Pretty much this. KLK wasnt the pinnacle of anime but it was far from bad. Its probably people that circlejerk berserk or naruto that are hating on it.

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>there are people ITT that would have shit on TTGL when it came out just to seem edgy on an anonymous image board
Good thing they weren't even born back then.

>>158933821
It became apparent they were just making shit up as the show progressed with no clear idea where it would end so it became about underwear aliens.

Remember how Senketsu used to drink blood, or how the Scissors were supposed to be a big plot point but then they just game everyone the ability to cut Life-fibers.

>>158933776
>>You killed my father Satsuki
>>No wait lets retcon that Nui killed my father
Stopped reading here.
I refuse to believe there is someone so retarded to believe an obvious red herring to be a "dropped plot point".

I haven't really been impressed by Trigger's shows. KLK was OK, I didn't finish it though. Ninja Slayer was just horrible looking. I was excited from one of the early trailers but then I found out it was just another "wacky" (shit) animated show.

>>158933979
They literally changed the flashback animation sequence and handwaved it away with "lol amnesia"

They didn't even bother to obscure the figure in the first flashback and it's a straight up silhouette of Satsuki

If you can digest being forcefed garbage like that then I applaud you.

>>158933975
TTGL had a coherent plot and proper character development

KLK fell apart after the half-way mark

>>158933955
No, it isn't bad. But it also isn't the masterpiece like many make it out to be.

>>158934083
>They literally changed the flashback animation sequence and handwaved it away with "lol amnesia"
They literally didn't, the first one shows a silhouette which Ryuko wrongly believed was Satsuki.

>>158933976
>Remember how Senketsu used to drink blood
You mean that thing that was never abandoned and foreshadowed life fibers being parasites? What about it?
>or how the Scissors were supposed to be a big plot point but then they just game everyone the ability to cut Life-fibers.
Bakuzan could cut life fibers since episode 2, and the only other weapon capable of doing something similar were the tailor gloves, that were much less effective needing to sever the banshi directly.
I'm convinced KLK haters have a sub 80 IQ.

>>158933946
For sure better writing, characters and visuals then in KLK lul

>>158934154
The first silhouette was unmistakably Satskui, then they just change it to Nui after she appears

>>158934105
It was best in the season for sure.

>>158931276
Whatever happened to the Ninja Slayer remake that was promised?

>>158934314
It was Ryuko remembering the events from her perspective. She believed the silhouette to be Satsuki's.
Unreliable narrator, storytelling 101.
If you ever believed Satsuki to be the killer you were retarded.

I require additional Akkos.

>>158934265
>You mean that thing that was never abandoned
I mean the thing where Senketsu actually drinks her blood and that sets a time-limit on her fights

How about that part where Senketsu absorbed life-fibers of the defeated uniforms. Remember how that went nowhere?

>>158934481
>lol I just misremembered it's not a retcon

Sasuga trigger

>>158934689
>I mean the thing where Senketsu actually drinks her blood and that sets a time-limit on her fights
That stopped being a problem after they activated Life fibers synchronization in episode 3, requiring much less blood.
In episode 21 Senketsu tells to Mako: "I need to drink some of your blood, try not to pass out".
>How about that part where Senketsu absorbed life-fibers of the defeated uniforms. Remember how that went nowhere?
I remember the last episode, when it was revealed that it developed the absorption ability that allowed him take over Shinra Koketsu, other than making him grow more and more self aware, you clearly don't. Have you even watched the series?
>>lol I just misremembered it's not a retcon
>Sasuga trigger
>being proud of your ignorance in basic storytelling devices
Sasuga.

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>>158934689
>>lol I just misremembered it's not a retcon
You're not well versed with narrative devices, are you? I'd like to say you're not familiar with 'complex' narrative devices, but showing an event to the audience from a character's specific perspective, even if that perspective differs from information that the audience knows but the character does not know, should not be a difficult concept to grasp. Ryuko's flashback was told with the only information she had at the time to keep the audience in the dark, then later on when the truth is revealed a correct flashback of the event is shown so the audience knows the truth as well as the character. It's a basic story telling device because both the character and the audience don't know the truth of the event before the truth is later revealed.

Please no more daddy/mommy issues.

>>158930426
>I wouldn't mind PS2 but this time the devil sisters would be the new two leads who would be looking for PS.
I personally would rather the ending of P&S to be retconnned. It was silly for an ending but horrible for sequels.

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>>158934977
Having a unreliable narrator and deliberately obscuring the silhouette is one thing.

Having the silhouette that is clearly, unmistakeably Satskui then going "lol you just missremberd" in the same episode you introduce the real killer is shit writting and nothing more.

If you want to rationalize eating shit be my guest.

>That stopped being a problem

That's my point, there was extreme emphasis put on the Blood drinking then it's just resolved and handwoven away.

There are a how of other issues like the mindbogglingly dumb pacing of ep12 and ep13.

>>158930441
>Well, I'm just assuming that they learned their lesson from that and won't go for some shitty omni-pandering design again.

Designs weren't the problem

It's the story and its messaging which were ho-hum

An Atlus RPG game could do a better job with that concept

Fuck yes.
Fuck LWA, I need to know their next series. Can't wait for more Luluco and Imaishi's new anime.

>>158935529
No, you're just being retarded. If Ryuko had that flashback before meeting Satsuki you would have a point and it would be dishonest writing, but at that moment she believed Satsuki to be the killer so the unreliable narration is entirely justified.
>That's my point, there was extreme emphasis put on the Blood drinking then it's just resolved and handwoven away.
Activating Life fibers synchronize was the first major turning point in Ryuko's growth and her relationship with Senketsu, not the issue being "handwoven away".
>There are a how of other issues like the mindbogglingly dumb pacing of ep12 and ep13.
Those episodes have no pacing issues.

>>158929809
>still expecting P&S2

It's dead, Jim, let it go

>>158932792
He's drawing KlK stuff all the time, especially Mako alone or Mako with Ryuko.
I highly doubt they'd do a second season though. I loved KlK but I don't want a s2, it could only get worse. Part of what made KlK enjoyable were the enemies who weren't actually bad guys (Satsuki's gang) and their background and all this shit. All of that is gone and revealed now, and some new villain vs Satsuki and Ryuko would be retarded. I rather have some whole new show with new good characters and maybe a cameo of some of the KlK characters or something.

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Daily reminder that Trigger don't give a fuck about filthy gaijins even despite they funded their shit. Absolutely based

>no yoh yoshinari autograph panels
Fuck

>>158935958
then how do they explain LWA?

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>>158935958
They shouldn't interact with the U.S. in any capacity full stop.

>>158935958
Why would they even make LWA TV then? The kickstarter was only for LWA 2. They were probably aware that this type of show would not be popular in Japan.

>>158936000>>158936084
It *is* their explanation. It's from LWA interview
https://youtu.be/Ga8APtGhFys?t=1259

>>158934354
UTTER SILENCE.

After the original run everything went silent.

>>158935958
Makes sense it's fucking anime, even their western fans like it because these themes.

>>158929809
You realize we arent gonna see anything, since all of trigger anouncements in cons are behind closed doors, right?

>>158929809
I'm calling 2 original series and 1 adaptation to keep the studio afloat with that sweet, sweet LN publisher adaptation money.

>>158934689
You don't even deserve a (you), thanks for proving you watched the show with your eyes closed.

You might be too retarded for fucking KLK.

>>158935884
Not necesarily...

an official PSG book by trigger was released this january, its an actual sequel story of the events after the finale.
panty got repaired and corset's plan to use brief's hellsmonkey on oten city fails, also, we discover that theres another stocking, probably the real one or her ghost, sealed in a mausoleum in daten city

And most importantly.

we discover that nova, from space patrol luluco, ended up in the PSG world, tho he seems to have lost his memories, that means PSG is semi-officially part of the triggerverse.

>>158936706
It wasn't official, it was a doujin.
Even if it seems surreal to call something made by the original creators a fan book.

>>158935884
Just wait until GAINAX fills for bankruptcy and Trigger can buy P&S back.

>>158929809
What percentage of this art book is Imaishi stuff? I was considering buying it.

>>158936830
Doujin just refers to self-published work, plenty of doujin works aren't based on any existing series.

>>158929809
Nothing good will come of this.

>>158936830
Gainax has been on record saying that they dont have any problem with trigger using PSG, as its their project first, im sure trigger wouldnt do this otherwise.

Therefore, yeah, this is an official book, cuz gainax allowed for it, and was made by the show creators.

>>158932714
Yeah, too bad she was underused even in her own show.

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>>158931276
This guy.

This guy right here.

This guy gets it.

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>>158936706
Nova in that book is just an easter egg for fun.
Here is the true luluco ending.

trigger is live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwqStvAdv18

>>158937437
Perfect.

>>158929809
Maybe not a meme production this time. So no KLK, Luluco or Inferno cop.

The Imaishi mecha anime better not be a TTGL rehash, we already have that, make something new.

It's obvious it will likely end up a disappointment like LWA and Kiznaiver.

>>158937449
what are they talking about?

>>158937731
>Imaishi
>not making meme productions
>not rehasing the same concept one billion times

Are we even talking about the same person?

>>158936216
That never said they were going to remake it. They were going to reair it.

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>>158929809
Indivisible™ the Anime Series

>>158937731
>Maybe not a meme production this time.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>158937766
>They were going to reair it.
I thought they were doing a 25-minute episode series.

>>158937437
That happens 4 years after the end of Luluco and has older Luluco. Nova in PSG world is right after him and Blackholeian escape the Blackhole.

>>158929809
I want to see Imaishi do something that isn't completely retarded for once.

>>158937820
I don't know, dawg, it aired on Nico in 15 and, at the time, people thought the tv broadcast in 16 might be actually animated but it was the same.

>>158937756
His team-up with Nakashima is starting to see diminishing returns. On his own, he creates absolutely retarded stuff without substance.

If he worked with another screenwriter, who knows how it will end up like. But I'll still take that over the other two possibilities.

>>158931276
PLEASE

>>158932122
>LWA TV: 6/10
Shit taste confirmed, just riding the contrarian train.

>>158938342
You're right, I was too generous.

>>158938342
Not him, but that's pretty fair. I gave it a 7/10 but I'm being more lenient.

>>158932122
Ninja Slayer is everything Inferno Cop was but better.

>>158937915
Unfortunately that won't happen because nobody at Trigger has the guts to tell him one of his ideas is to retarded.

>>158938811
ABBA

>>158933955
KLK was just mediocre and a lot of the more vocal fans simply wanted to like it to have an event of "/a/ being spammed full of threads about a single show" for themselves because they weren't around the previous times. They were pretty open about it during the finale too and the threads being made just to fill the board barely got any replies. Watching that shit unfold was surreal, people had pretty much memed themselves to treat the show as the next TTGL in terms of hype but the actual big finale threadspam was just pathetic.

>>158938994
>KLK was just mediocre
Nah, it was great. Better than TTGL.

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>**3,294 Little Witch Academia

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>>158939263
Serves them right

>>158938994
To be fair the show was pretty hype until the last quarter when it when to shit.

>>158939263
Too much.

>>158939263
that's the sale of Blu Ray discs? Is that a big number or a small number? I don't follow sales shitposting.

>>158939615
Bellow 5k = bye bye

>>158938994
>>158939390
Honestly I don't think Imaishi is a good storyteller. TTGL had very little plot so it seemed more consistent outside of how poorly the post-timeskip was handled. KLK had much more story to it so it seemed messier.

Not to mention PSG had many different people working on it and its episodic nature worked in its favor and Luluco's plot only came in the last couple episodes with weaker episodes than PSG.

>>158939739
Post time-skip was the best part of TTGL

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>Trigger

Not even once

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>>158932714
this

>>158933921
SnK

>>158939674
Eh, Netflix will soften the blow.

>>158939674
That'd be the thing if the market worked normally, but Trigger is smart, so they decided to use Kickstarter and reap the benefits before the series even aired. People fell for it hook, line and sinker.

>>158940009
Who is this 4chan.

>>158940200
And they're even preparing a pateron account. They're really prepared.

>>158939674
>5k
More like below 3k or even 2,5k.

Oh great, more generic trigger flops

>>158940200
>>158940352
Yep. LWA is unique in that it was crowdfunded, so it is impossible to say how commercially successful it was relative to other anime since Trigger broke even on it before the show even aired.

Could trigger adapt Helck?

I lost most of my trust in Trigger, sorry.

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>>158937811
Maaaaybe....not.

>>158940967
yes but it would be shit like everything else they did after inferno cop

>>158936152
It's really funny, even with the praise from the western audiences, all they care about is for nips praise.
KLK was pretty popular with Japanese audiences, but they really strayed way too far after that.

>>158939674
>>158939263
Chances of a s2 happening: slim
>Thinking that s2 was possible in the first place
didn't they say they were open to the idea?

>>158941346
More OVAs are plausible.

>>158941400
That's better, really. LWA's universe would benefit more from self-contained arcs.

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Why would there be a 2nd season of kill la kill the story ended

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I really wanted to like Trigger, but it has become all to clear that they can't write a story to save their lives.

They have a concept and a few plot points they plan out but then they just start making shit up as the series progresses.

Even the corpse of GAIANX made a better planed and more coherent show from a car commercial add.

>>158940200
>>158940352
>>158940428
Anime are much cheaper to produce than most Western TV shows.
One cour costs around 1 to 2 million dollars to produce.
Meanwhile, 1 episode of Western animation can cost 2 million dollars.
A dedicated Western fanbase for one franchise maybe as large and have as much buying power as a third of the entire japanese anime community.
In other words, Trigger can potentially not only sustain, but even prosper by pandering to gaijin.

>>158941527
the only thing they could do at this point is back up Ragyo's claim that a new life fiber invasion would happen

>>158941600
>>158940824
We were played like a damn fiddle. Just as predicted by Moral Hazard theory.

>>158941589
They can still be saved if they decide to hire a writer that actually does their job or if they just make use of the simplest, non-convoluted plot.

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>>158941498
I want a movie trilogy. I have a good feeling about this.

>>158941600
Unless they beg for money on kikestarter for every show they make this wont work.

If you really wanted to aim for the Gajin audience they would be making shows like SnK and OPM

>>158941589
I also don't get why they have a fetish for redemption.

Why couldn't Satsuki or Croix just have been normal bad guys? Fuck.

>>158941785
>I also don't get why they have a fetish for redemption.
They're not westerners who take it for granted.

>>158941785
Not sure about Croix, but Satsuki was pretty much Lordgenome--1st cour big bad because of 2nd cour big bad.

>>158941781
Just putting stuff on US Amazon and netflix will make them a lot.
Anime is getting more and more mainstream these days it seems.

>>158941910
Croix is the typical "denied something she wanted in youth, threw a decades-long tantrum and decided to become a bad guy with a nefarious plan for world domination, fucks it up royally and because of that suddenly becomes a good guy again"

What are the odds for an anime original instead of a continuation?

>>158941785
That's a minor issue compared to what happens when you don't properly outline your story.

Like Ryuko going through the same character arc two times in the show, or how Inumuta and Nonon become background decoration.

Coincidentally Gammagori is saved from this fate because of fan reception to him and Mako interacting, as the show is being written on the spot this turned into a romantic relationship simply because the fans liked it.

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Midori doing cute things season when

>>158942109
>Coincidentally Gammagori is saved from this fate because of fan reception to him and Mako interacting, as the show is being written on the spot this turned into a romantic relationship simply because the fans liked it.
Animation isn't made that quickly

>>158941921
Likely a consequence of people bingeing endlessly ruminated live action series on Netflixen and wanting something different. Watching a five year old american TV series makes no sense, but watching a 25 year old anime just to follow your favorite director does.

>>158942160
Actually, it is. Some episodes can even be made within one week.
That's why most late-night anime shows looks like shit.

I apoligize to everyone who wants something new but all I could hope for is another TTGL rip.
I feel like we've been pretty deprived of a feel-good ass kicking show for a while.
I want to watch a show where the heroes are all but defeated but then the MC goes "Not yet! We're not done yet!" and then the OP plays. For as long as I've watchde anime that shit has never got old for me

>>158942160
Trigger shits out animation cels like their pencils are laxatives

>>158942160
Yes normally you have a buffer of 6-8 episodes when the show starts.

Which is exactly what happened here.

>>158942255
Sure, if you're South Park

They might be finishing the animation right down to the wire, but the writing, storyboarding, animatics, layouts, key frames, voice acting recording, sound, photography, effects, etc isn't going to be done in one week, simply organising all this shit takes time

>>158933808
I think you mixed your shows anon

>>158941498
I'm willing to give them another chance with a TV series. It just needs to be simpler, with an overarching plot just being a black v. white story.

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>>158940352
>a company starting a Patreon account
This ain't right.

>>158942376
Incidentally to reach that speed, South Park costs around 1 million per episode despite the shitty animation.
It used to be 250,000 in its first season though.

>>158942376
Some overstressed episode director can do all that shit no problem. After the episode ends, he can lie down for 3 hours, and then try to juggle all that shit again when assigned to another episode.

>>158942504
Why not?

>>158938541
>having taste this shit

>>158942376
Again you have a 6-8 week buffer

>>158942504
We'll see how it goes. Some people requested it so Tattun will put one up. Tattun said the TRIGGER staff were skeptical and would probably laugh at him if it fails.

>>158942504
Why apply for external investors when you can get fans to do it?

>>158942109
>Like Ryuko going through the same character arc two times in the show
Didn't happen.
>or how Inumuta and Nonon become background decoration.
>Coincidentally Gammagori is saved from this fate
Gamagori doesn't have a bigger presence than the other two in the second part of the show.
It's honestly amusing how no one that tries to criticize KLK's writing has watched the show.

>>158932122
Ninja Slayer is inferno cop but 3x as long and 3x as entertaining, idiot.

>>158942634
>Tattun said the TRIGGER staff were skeptical
They clearly have no idea how much money Westerners are prepared to throw at shit they like. If Bum Tickley can make $5k a month, Trigger can make a pretty penny.

>>158942083
>fucks it up royally
She succeeded. Which is why she saw her failure.

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>>158942658
>Ryuuko hits her low point after she goes berserk when fighting Nui
>Next few episodes are her getting back in the game
>Ryuuko hits her low point after she finds out she is half life-fiber
>Next few episodes are her getting back in the game

I won't even bother with the resolution to the series being everyone literally screaming "THIS SHIT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MAKES NO SENSE"

>>158942822
She didn't succeed at all. Her intent was to control magic by manipulating emotions. She can't control magic.

Oh and that magic she can't control decided to launch a SLBM somewhere.

>>158942767
Normies don't give a fuck about LWA anymore they moved on to other shows.

4chan has a very mixed opinion on Trigger.

>>158942767
>If Bum Tickley can make $5k a month

That's enough to pay maybe 1 experienced animator NOT from TRIGGERED.

>>158942991
She opened the seal. She got to be the chosen one. Shame about the price.

>>158929809
If dubs Turning Girls 2

>>158943076
>Autistic retards who can't follow stories and get caught up on "plot holes" hate Trigger
>Everyone with a brain loves Trigger

Yea, really mixed opinion indeed.

>>158943076
>4chan has a very mixed opinion on Trigger.
Yeah from what I see here /a/ has a love-hate relationship with Trigger

>>158942767
I'd say trigger can probably make more money if they ditch TV and put their animation on youtube , china and niconico.

It costs money ($500,000 per cour) to put anime on Japanese TV and most profits come from merchandising (including BDs). The TV mainly acts as an advertisement for the merchandise, but putting it online would probably garner more publicity and views.

The US/Europe/Chinese market is just too big and too rich compared to the Japanese.

>>158942504
>easy money from fans who want to directly support studios
Why the fuck not? I'd rather donate than buy blu rays. They barely get anything from those sales

>>158942567
Companies should be making their own money, not abusing services intended to create a sustainable environment for independent creators. Not that Patreon doesn't get abused already, but this level of bullshit can just fuck off.

>>158929809
LN adaptation that'll be booed because amerifats don't know how the industry works.
Teaser of the new Imashi mecha. Wich will be (no surprise) Imashi style in both design, animation and plot.
Visual tease of another original prod they'll be doing at a later date, either Trigger Girls or another original in the same vein as Kiznaiver.

They might -might- announce that they will be co-producing Uru in Blue with Gainax.

>>158943192
>animators get paid 5k a month
haha

>>158929809
TRIGGER's next anime will be a full-blown magical girl anime.

>>158942983
I don't know if you're merely pretending to be retarded. The issues Ryuko was facing in those two instances were different, and made her growth in different ways. Or are you implying that a character can only face one obstacle during his development?
I won't even bother with your other point since it further demonstrates that you didn't watch the show.

>>158943405
>Companies should be making their own money
It's an art company. They have little business in the stock market. Fan market is better.

>>158943192
animators are paid around 1 k USD per month.

>>158943501
Tonight I will be praying for the animators.

>>158943447
I wish.

>>158943447
Every Imaishi anime since Panty&Stocking has been a mahou shoujo.

why couldn't LWA be a simple cgdct anime

>>158943453
>The issues Ryuko was facing in those two instances were different

She doubted herself, then she doubted herself again.

Yes very different.

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>>158943706
And more magical girls is only a good thing, anon.

>>158943706
>the twist at the end
>doesn't give us a season 2
yeah fuck Imaishi

>>158943264
That's impossible since Triggers shows have no plot in the first place.

>>158943192
So? This costs them nothing - anything they make would just supplement their budget. They're not going to abandon traditional sources of revenue no matter how successful this turns out to be.

>>158943902
They have more plot than Shaft, but I agree that they've largely transcended the plot meme.

>>158943758
Trigger Girls for the 10th anniversary in 2021.

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>>158944044
>plot meme.

>>158944086
he's a /v/irgin is all. they prefix/suffix everything with "meme" for some reason

>>158943372
>I'd say trigger can probably make more money if they ditch TV and put their animation on youtube , china and niconico.
HAHAHAHAH
Youtube ads makes shit money unless you can get millions of views. Wich won't happen with Trigger, even the official Gundam channel hardly break the 30k views barrier per video on Youtube.

>>158942767
I don't know who proposed the idea but they're retarded.

If everything go perfectly they might make $40k. Wich IS a lot for a japanese animation studio, it basically would allow them to make another LWA-style OAV. But outside of that kind of project it's not enough to fund an entire serie.

But that's only the best scenario. In reality since people would most likely get nothing out of the patreon outside of some bonuses and the studio can exist without Patreon, the money they would get out of it might not exceed $10k.
Wich is nice, but it doesn't allow you to do much outside of financing a few shorts or hiring a bit more in-house staff.

Patreon isn't a good platform for a whole studio. It doesn't make enough money, and it's not stable enough (what about 5 years down the line ?).

Buying licenses, selling your own merchandises, adaptating your own LNs and manga, all of these are much more efficient and reliable ways to make profits than e-begging.

>>158929809
they already said Imaishi was doing a new show that TTGL fans would appreciate, that's it

>>158943731
Even as an extreme trivialization of the events this is incorrect.
You aren't even trying.

>>158944270
That's not a very promising line. Essentially the same show for what, the fifth time now? Imaishi can't dickride off TTGL's success forever.

>>158944267
It'll easily exceed $10k.

Kare Kano remake when?

>>158944376
It's the only good thing he has done, he can't do anything else but dickride it.

>>158944435
correction, it's the only thing he's ever done.

>>158944376
But he never did any mecha since then?

>>158944430
this desu

>>158944267
>Patreon isn't a good platform for a whole studio
It's literally free money. Animators and show staff in general already release little snippets of art for fanwank purposes. These could easily be repurposed for the Patreon "rewards". So for absolutely no extra work, you get free money.

What's not to like?

Obviously restructuring your business model around Patreon is a dumb move and nobody at Trigger will do this, but the income it will generate can be entirely free. That can either line the pockets of the suits, be used to generate more content — which may or may not lead to more patreonbux which feeds yet more content which feeds yet more patreonbux ad infinitum — or help pay bonuses to staff.

You think too small and not abstractly enough to understand why Patreon can only be a good thing (for Trigger). Whether this good thing (for Triigger) has any direct/indirect benefit to patreon donators or trigger's fans/viewers is entirely down to Trigger themselves and how they make use of it.

>>158929809
>tfw want to see more of luluco but afraid it will get the LWA TV treatment and become utter shit

>>158944675
Luluco is already shit, it can't get worse.

>>158939674
>Bellow 5k = bye bye
Either newfag or complete retard.

>>158944267
They make 0 money on Japanese TV
The ad money doesn't go to them.
They have to pay to broadcast.

They can probably hire mediocre western dubbing for higher views.

Meanwhile most anime on Chinese website break 200k or 300k views per episode.

All in all Japanese TV is a really shitty platform for most anime except long running classics.

>>158943076
Normalfags didn't even watch LWA because it didn't premiere on neflix yet

Insider here.
Samidare

>>158945073
>overrated garbage manga gets an adaptation by an overrated garbage studio

A match made in heaven

>>158944667
I didn't say that it's a bad move. What I said is that Patreon is nothing but a small help. There are lots of other shit that are more profitable, so thinking "Patreon" is retarded. But yes, of course it's free money. But if you think it's going to be a reliable and strong part of Trigger's business then you're deluded. In the best case it'll alleviate production costs or fund an OVA, but that's it.

>>158944881
Gundaminfo has subs in litterally every asian language as well as english. And while they acually make more views than I though for currently airing anime, 200k is still nothing in Youtube money. Especially for a studio.
I do agree that it's better than nothing, at least it's better than fucking Patreon and something studios should probably do (however that'll cause problems with anime streaming platforms). But I do rest my case that it can't beat selling your own merch, buying licenses, adaptating your own shit, etc.

It's ok KLK babies, R3 is just around the corner so you can stop pretending to like KLK and jump on the real hype bandwagon

>>158945337
>I didn't say that it's a bad move.
>I don't know who proposed the idea but they're retarded.
>listed many (dumb) reasons why it's a retarded idea (ie a bad move)
?????????????????????????????

>>158945337
I agree merch and bd would still be the main source of revenue. But online video sites would probably be better or more cost effective for publicity than Japanese TV.

On the other hand, I feel like Japanese anime studios in general should think of putting merch on Amazon internationally or taobao instead of only in jp.
Many foreigners are discouraged from buying bds because of that.

It might cost a lot of money to list things on amazon.com though.

>>158937820
They re-aired it into 12 episodes on TV. Each have 2 episodes on it. The EDs were all new too.

>>158945547
>The EDs were all new too.
I will need to look for these.

>>158945073
Please God no.

>>158945599
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvjI0QKPe3Y&feature=youtu.be&t=22m09s

This is the first TV episode's ED. It's by the band pillows, it's so good. I even have it in my phone.

>>158945456
dumb idea =/= bad move

But I agree that I am fucking retarded and didn't voice myself properly. It's not a bad idea, but if you think it's going to make a real difference then you're dumb. Patreon ain't gonna save anime, even a successful Patreon that is. And another thing you didn't consider is that it might hurt their image since now they're e-begging and people paying them will have expectations.
So yes, having $40k per months would be nice. But considering that the things they can do with that money are very limited it's not such a smart move. It's free money, and that's it. It might even come back to bite them in the ass in some way.

>>158945527
Yeah. Regarding merch I think it's both a mentality and interest problem. If they put shit on Amazon.com it still won't sell very much overseas. Because not only only a few people actually buy merchs, but that number is further decreased by the shipping costs. Another side is that they simply can't talk english, so their interactions with foreigners can only be extremely limited and that includes commercial interactions. That's one of he reasons why they rely on localisation companies in the first place.
And of course the Japan-centric mindset doesn't help either.

>>158945888
Wow. They did change it. And it's quite nice.

>>158945916
>dumb idea =/= bad move
How in the fuck does acting on a dumb idea not equal a bad move before you start applying hindsight to the move? Fuck.

>>158945547
New ED like Soul Eater Repeat Show?

>>158930036
>>158932122
inferno cop is literally the worst anime i ever watched in my life. hope , if possible, get the second season cancelled and make something useful isntead, like PNS s2 or a new proyect

>>158932736
>a anime
Does that sound right to you?

>>158945994
Why are you only focusing on that rather than all of my other points ?

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>>158929809
Maybe it might have some hints about the new Panty & Stocking show that can be a second season.

>>158935529
AN UNRELIABLE!

>>158944825
I will fite you.

>>158945073
LOL

>>158946156
Because your other points are retarded and are emotional/biased arguments, for example:
>e-begging
That's your bias talking. Are they really "begging"? From whom are they "begging"? Will the patreon donaters think it's "begging"? What does it matter to anyone if they are indeed doing what you say they are: "begging"?
And another example:
>Patreon ain't gonna save anime
Who said anything about it saving anime? Does anime need "saving"? You cannot say with complete certitude that it won't "save anime" especially since you don't elucidate what that actually means and especially since this is the first instance of what you call e-begging by an anime production company so there is zero historical evidence on which to base your conclusion. Your point is fucking meaningless which is why I didn't argue it.
And another:
>and people paying them will have expectations
People have expectations anyway even if they do not donate. Do you not read LWA threads? Have you not even read this one? Besides, the expectations of patreon donaters can be managed with what exactly you offer them in the first place.

Basically you are retarded.

>>158934342
>best in season
>aired alongside NNB S1, NnA, GBF, Space Dandy, Hozuki no Reitetsu, and SamFlam in addition to many shows that were just as good as it was
Hardly even close

>>158931276
Hopefully this.

>>158932006
You have shittaste.

>>158946586
I said begging because that's how the detractors I talked about will see it. I said "save anime" because of the dumb hype around Patreon, as if it's going to "save anime". I actually think that anime is in better shape than it ever was and we can already see some studios finding solutions to the problems it's currently facing.
Expectations from someone who it GIVNG MONEY to you and a random guy on the internet are two very different thing. Not only that, but I was more talking of something among the lines of a PR disaster. Wich might actually have people leaving the studio as a consequence. Remember when someone from GAINAX had to leave the studio because he got in an argument with people on the internet over his shitty episode ? Now imagine that that guy on the internet is actually a patreon of theirs. It can get ugly very quickly.

So essentially you focus on a few words to not answer to my points, except one. Good job. I think your the retarded one mate.

>>158932792
he draws Mako all the time.

>>158945073
Please God yes.

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Trying to remember what Trigger did to get me hyped.
>KLK & LWA were okay
>Some shitty manga adaptations that weren't even worth looking at
>A few "series" that are 5 minute shorts with cardboard cutouts but it's totally ironic so it's okay :^)))

I don't like these odds.

>>158947422
you must have gigantic shit taste if you think space patrol luluco wasn't good

>>158947496
Please go home to >>>/t/umblr

>>158942504

There is a lot of autistic rich people in the West that will donate to it.

>>158947422
I don't remember a Trigger manga adaptation.
Inou and Ninja Slayer were LNs and the rest are originals IIRC

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>>158947533
faggots who constantly mention cancer like tumblr are ironically being cancerous themselves.

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>>158947422
>:^)))

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What the FUCK is he gonna do Imaishibros

>>158947638
hopefully quit forever

>>158947638
A Go Nagai adaptation just like he always wanted

>>158947638
>Imaishibros
In order for this word to take on a plural form there must be more than one of you.

>>158947726
I mean, 90% of what he does is already a Go Nagai rip off, might as well go all the way.

>>158929809
>they found each other
I'm so happy

>>158947496
It would've been good as a full series, I don't give 5 minute shorts my time of day.

>>158929846
I hate to say it, but this. KLK was all style with no substance. The plot was fucking retarded, but this is the same studio that hired Mari Okada so I don't expect them to ever know what good writing is.

>>158947961
You really think they could've stretched it out that long? Some of the episodes felt longer than they needed to be even at 5 minutes.

Japan would hate trigger even more if they make a patreon

>>158946659
Space Dandy is the only one of comparable quality. And it started one season later anyway.

>>158948010
>KLK was all style with no substance
Oh no, he's retarded.

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>>158948412
well japan is full of otakus and neets who eat up ecchi, harem and LN garbage each and every season so nothing of value is lost.

>>158929809
see you faggots there

>>158948412
>**3,924
As if they give a fuck what trigger does if they don't buy their shit. Trigger is figuring out they are more likely to profit from Westerners than Nips. Why do you think Tattun has been quite interactive with the LWA fans on here?

>>158944430
The manga went full retard after a certain point. They should just leave it be.

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>>158948665
>>158948849
True but trigger wants to pander to them doing this with make it harder or worse for them

Trigger is going to adapt Biscuit Hammer one day, and then anime will truly be saved.

>>158948568
Tell me about the complexities of KLK's well-executed plot, anon. I'm waiting.

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>>158948960
you do realise trigger is more popular with the western audience than japan right? It wouldn't be exactly hard as the kick starter was a huge success and it mostly funded by the western fans with only a small number of jp fans chipping in.

Again, who gives a shit about japans shit taste.

>>158948921
40k because it can't be shittier than what GW is doing right now.

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>>158948921
40k, because Todd would shit up the other two somehow

>>158948960
You will soon see a shift from certain (mostly small and independent) studios trying to pander to Western audiences. The market for Westerners is fucking enormous compared to the one in Japan. Anime is hugely niche in Japan. Even popular Battleshonen is niche there.

>>158949078
>spoonfeeding
If you were too dumb to appreciate KLK's layered narrative it's not my job to help you.

>>158949078
Narratively KLK could be better, since there was like 50 fucking script revisions, (like the anti-spiral bullet and nudist beach being set up as villains early on and not doing anything with it) but there's a bunch of cool shit with Satsuki and Japanese Imperialism that I reccommend you look into, because I don't care enough to detail it all in an essay post

>>158930809
call me a dipshit:

Trigger Girls?

>>158949357
>nudist beach being set up as villains early on
Jesus Christ.

>>158949426

http://video.genfb.com/1167038806652231

i hope there is more, this is all i found

>muzzle a best girl

>>158949467
You're telling me don't remember that bit where Senketsu threatens Tsumugu about harming Ryuko, or how the entire fucking theme of the show is about accepting duality, and nudist beach clearly shows a threat to that, trying to destory all the life-fibers?

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>>158949295
>If you were too dumb to appreciate KLK's layered narrative it's not my job to help you.

The ending was shit and rushed.

They need a second season to fix it.

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>mfw all this IRC

>>158949636
Tsumugu was a renegade, he didn't have any approval for going after Ryuko and Senketsu, that Aikuro was helping.
And the process of finding a compromise started way later, the beginning is typical ANARCHY FUCK YEAH, FIGHT THE POWA Imaishi setup, why would anyone expect the anti establishment organization to be the villain.

>>158944430
>Kare Kano remake when?

They're better off adapting a more recent and popular shoujo manga which I have no idea what that is

>>158950045
Mikisugi doesn't approve of what Tusmugu is doing, but he doesn't stop him from going after the pair.
I think trying to murder the main character, regardless of if they were justified in having that contingency plan, is pretty suspect.
To me, it seems like they were trying to go with a Lordgenome thing with Nudist Beach too, but unlike Satsuki, who actually got a conclusion half way through, Nudist Beach got nothing of the sort

>>158950045
>why would anyone expect the anti establishment organization to be the villain.
right, who in his right mind would expect Imaishi to be original for once.

>>158929809
>imaishis nw projact, most likely mechastuff
i swear to shit it better be batshit or i will be disappointed.

>>158949737
it had 2 cours and an OVA

>>158950277
Aikuro says to him "if the HQ knew what you were doing, they would take away your weapons and kick you out".
And Lordgenome isn't the appropriate comparison, Tsumugu's TTGL equivalent would be Rossiu, the skeptic that eventually gets proven wrong by facts.
>>158950750
Yeah, why didn't he betray his beliefs to please a shitposting retard?

Will they finally make a good full length show? They have been doing a pretty bad job at succeeding Gainax so far.

Also I find it hilarious that they are announcing their shows at a convention in LA. They aren't even subtle about their shows being marketed to the west.

>>158937011
Source? I don't see anything that says that the doujin is canon in anyway.

>>158951431
Succeeding Gainax was always going to be a pipe dream, but I think Trigger have done it in the most offensive way possible.

I don't think anything of any value would be lost if someone barred their double doors during a busy day and set the building alight.

>>158932179
Trigger actually liked her more than the ln author; they gave her a much bigger role and more screen time than the novel.

>>158951255
>betray his beliefs
>making an anime with a slightly different plot or with slightly different themes is now betraying your beliefs

Jesus christ, no wonder all Imaishi's anime is the same then.

>>158933573
I always thought the nudity was more funny than sexy.

>>158948921
I always wanted a 40k anime

>>158951431
>Will they finally make a good full length show?
Yes, it's called Kill la Kill.
>>158951590
Edgy.

>>158951678
You quoted a post that advocated making the revolutionaries the bad guys.
Better luck next time, dipshit.

>>158951937
>Kill la Kill fan calling anyone edgy
Pot, kettle.

>>158952052
My point stands. Imaishi has done the same anime for 10 years now, whatever happened to killing your darlings?

>>158952200
In what way was KLK edgy?

>>158952202
>My point stands.
Sure it does.

>>158952052
Revolutionaries can be the bad guys. They tend to have positive ideas that don't mesh well with reality.

Stories are limitless, faggot. You don't need to convince yourself that Imaishi's childish stories can only work one way.

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Koki is sad

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>>158935958
>Trigger don't give a fuck about filthy gaijins

>>158935958
Every creator should make for themselves.

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>>158935958
>nobody in Japan gives a fuck about Trigger
>Trigger is desperate for Japan to notice them
Are Trigger the ultimate cucks?

>>158955866
They're only saying they make shows for Japan for the sake of public image, there are still a few niwaka retards who buy their shit over there.

It's pretty obvious they abandoned Japan a long time ago.

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>>158955866
>if trigger panders to the west they're traitors
>if trigger panders to japan they're cucks

Your mind works like a child.

>>158932122
*LWA: 9/10
*KLK: 10/10
*LWA TV 1st cour: 6/10
*LWA TV 2nd cour: 10/10

Otherwise, basically agreed.

>>158938887
What is this? Image searches bring up nothing.

>>158956008
When did I say the top meme arrow text you wrote?

Hopefully we get a show that reveals the second Trigger girl. I love that all of their shows are connected somehow and we need closure this next series.

>>158955683
Lucas couldn't tell a better story no matter what.

>>158956008
Watch the interview. Pandering to the west was completely coincidental. They wanted to create something different and interesting, so they took some "inspiration" from western shows.

Instead of impressing and entertaining their home crowd, they ended up attracting filthy weaboos. It's fucking tragic is what it is.

>>158956193
>It's fucking tragic is what it is.
Any sane companies next move would have been to make something safe, and ideally unappealing to that kind of audience.

What did Trigger do? Oh, right, they begged westerners for money. Yeah, they really think it's "tragic".

>>158956193
you have to go back

>>158951836
>There was supposed to be a 40K manga
>The head-honcho of Warhammer Comics did everything in his might to torpedoe the idea because he thought manga is faggy (which is untrue since there are series that are pretty badass)
>GW then pulls the plug on Warhammer Comics and for a long time there were no new comics

Worst part, there is this doujin series called Deathstruct with the Dark Angels as the MCs and to this day a) nobody has the complete raws and b) it's to this day untranslated.