Welcome to the NHK

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>>158911151
more like welcome to the (404)
;_;

>you're now older than Satou and still a NEET
I watched this shit in high school. I should have taken heed...

>>158911151
yes

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Hitori Bocchi is a miracle.

>>158913529
daw

>>158911338
Satou is no better off in the end than he was in the start, other than having financial independence.
He's arguably more miserable being a wageslave. If you have the option to continue being NEET indefinitely, there's no reason not to take it.

>>158915931
You're forgetting how his isolation crippled his self esteem and mental health.

>>158916215
He was already like that from the beginning. He became a hikkineeto because of his lack of self esteem and shitty mental health. Now he's not any better off himself, and he has a shitty unstable teenage girl clinging to him that hates both herself and him.

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>>158913529
Hitori Bocchi is absolutely great. I wish it was getting an anime like her other work is.

>>158916432
What was the book?

I'm not a NEET but I still fucking hate everyone. I don't get the benefits of either side.

neet for the last 4 years left school 2 or 3 years early just got to into gemes and stoped giveing a fuck am currently in a rut of playing csgo and hateing myself every time i get beat by a smurf with -600 hours played and im only mge. i want to get a job but dont know how thinking about applieing for the bru to get help im 18 and im feel like im slowly dieing due to the lack of exercise of only going ou a hanful of times in the last 4 years. anyone else worse off than me?

>>158911151
Misaki a best

fuck i want to be a drug abusing NEET

>>158922344
>fuck i want to be a drug abusing _______

No. No, you don't.

I'm a dame ningen

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>>158911151
and a ching chong nip nong to you too young lady

>>158922677
>umaru poster shitposting
Business as usual

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>>158922612
>not being a damemegami

>>158922726
I prefer being a dame dame tantei.

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>>158922726
Shut up, you little whore.

>>158922726
>wanting to fail on a bigger level
Being a mere ningen means that my fuck up will be limited to mortal level.

I think this is one of the only animes to properly write and show characters with mental problems. So tired of see some shows instantly solve mental issues with "Oh just stop being sad" garbage.

This series is a cold cup of water that everyone should drink.

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>>158922998
>animes
>food analogy
>reddit spacing
but yes I agree

>>158922998
Just stop being sad. It's not that hard.
>>>/reddit/

>>158922292
22 and I'm feeling like I'm slowly going insane. I'm studying in a decent uni after transferring from a community college to make it into a well paying career, but besides going to class I'm a hikkiNEET.
I've always took shitty care of my mental and physical health and things are starting to catch up(or things have been this way all along and I'm coming to a realization). I think I'm losing my ability to speak in coherent sentences, weakening my sense of identity and consciousness. It's leading towards deterioration my ability to think and feel things.
I want to see a doctor, but it could all be some paranoia caused by anxiety.

It really scares the shit out of me when I think about how Satou was 22 in NHK as well. I just want things to end before it starts getting even worse than this

>>158919132
The bible

>>158923262
If you're a student you're not a NEET.

>besides going to class I'm a hikkiNEET
Beside being in education, I'm not in education. This is what you're saying.

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>>158923262

>>158923262
> I'm a hikkiNEET.
That word. It does not mean what you think it means.
NEET = Not in Employment, Education, Training. You're not a NEET if you're in uni. And you're not a hikki if you actually go to class.

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>>158923262
>I want to see a doctor, but it could all be some paranoia caused by anxiety.
>Believing paranoia caused by anxiety is not reason enough to see a doctor
I went trought it for a year without seeking help. I finally got out of it by meditation and going to the root of my anxiety but it was hell, anon. Go see a doctor before it really starts.
By the way, having no social life doesn't make you a NEET, fuck off.

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>>158923404
how do you get into meditation?
one of my old teachers used to say it did wonders for her

>>158923262
>claims to be NEET despite actually enrolled in a uni
>claims to be hikki despite actually going to class

I'm a 30 yo man: loveless, jobless, friendless and hopeless. Few time ago a girl tried play Misaki with me but everything went really bad because she was too religious and I'm a man who don't understand God and don't think that thing is true.

That girl today is a missionary of some church and I'm still a NEET.

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>>158923448
I smoked a joint and just sit still, trying to organize my thoughts for half an hour or a whole hour. Sometimes it was just concentrating on a relaxing sound, thought or color, like green grass or a river; sometimes it was thinking about the process of life of the deeper meanings of mundane things-
Proper meditation is different, I think, but I still think of that process as meditating because it felt like that.

>>158923649
Should've tried hearing her out, anon.

>>158923448
Funnily enough, there was a Misaki guided meditation in English

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how soon until thread gets nuked? this is getting pretty out there
I thought Punpun was also pretty great when it came to mental health and Punpun's struggle later as an adult resonated with me
>>158923649
I think you were right in what you did, religious nutjobs are cancer

>>158923653
>>158923653
Not who you were responding to.

But, meditation is just what you noted. Or at least that is a type of meditation. Focusing on something like the breath, a concept, ect.

In my opinion all those types can get you to be truly present in the moment instead of stuck in the past or making future plans.

>had four-year hikki period
>girl from high school I hadn't seen in years was still someone I fantasized about, by merit of being one of the last people I talked to regularly (much like the guy in the show)
>I kept telling myself "maybe I'll run into her again and that'll somehow make things better"
>Welcome to the NHK inspired me to stop dwelling on the past and try to move forward
>vaguely remember a guy I used to know works at an out-of-the-way McDonalds, so trying to re-establish a social contact would make a good first step if he's still there
>the damn girl from high school turns out to also be working there
>social skills have deteriorated to the point where I can't even talk to her
>return home defeated, continue dwelling on the past, and never go to that McDonalds again

Thankfully I eventually moved out and got my shit together-ish (I at least work now and support myself, even if I still don't socialize), but that's something I'll always think of when I think about Welcome to the NHK. It happened the day after I finished the series.

>>158923902
https://gumroad.com/l/Izvd#
Here it is. I don't know where a download link to it for free is. I already have it downloaded though.

>>158923653
If you had enough social skills to have a drug supplier, you weren't very far down the rabbit hole.

>>158922998
Satou and Misaki are the most psychologically interesting and accurate characters I've ever seen

Anyone just watch this for the comedy?

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I've had my hikki and NEET phases, but now I'm 27, I have a fiance and an apartment, an office job, a savings account and a 401k.

I hate all of it and wish I could go back to those easier NEET and hikki times.

>blogshit

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>>158924470

>>158924557
>first saw this when I was a teenager
>thought it was funny
>it's coming true right before my eyes
God dammit.

>>158924313
Well, yeah. I wasn't born with social anxiety. But he wasn't my friend or had any real conversation with me, it was no different that grocery shopping.

>>158924627
>I was in the New Years thread a few years back when it was originally posted
>it's now old enough for modern anons to reminisce about
Son of a bitch.

>>158924776
>thinks grocery shopping is easy

kys

>be a shut-in
>go outside after some encouragement
>become misanthrope

>>158923448
>>158923653
Want to add for you meditations fags.

It may be worth your time to look into Metta Meditation. I understand it may be counter to the edgy mentality most chan users have but I have found it to be immensely helpful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett%C4%81

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>>158924843
>kys
For being a loser who thinks grocery shopping is hard you're really entitled to yourself, you know? Besides I didn't know this was the faggot olimpics, sorry for not being such a fuck up like you.
I don't know how grocery shopping is in your shithole buy in mine is just taking the product, noding in silence if the cashier asks you something and then pass up the money.

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>>158924789
>look at save dates on old images
>literally over a decade old
Man, I don't even fucking know.

>>158923262
>>158922292
You're just having delusions and the first existential crisis.

I'm 26, I was actually a hikki for almost 2 years, than later I got a job, entered uni, I just graduated this semester.

Now I just feel the hollow of the wageslave like, 60% of my income goes towards keeping my home, which includes getting food for my parents, having expenses with an older brother that just smokes weed and doesn't help with anything, anxiety really drives me to do things I regret, yelling at a lot of people and being mad all the time, it's a gigantic contrast to being a hikki lying on the floor while listening to music and wondering if I should just enlist to the military. No one asks to be born, it just happens.

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>>158915931

That's where you are wrong, son.

Human beings are miserable, period. That is our cross to bear, it's at the very core of the human condition. It's impossible to escape physical, emotional and existential discomfort in the long term. Enlightenment is realizing the only way to overcome this harsh reality is to embrace suffering to its full extent. That is the lesson of Jesus Christ. That is the lesson of Buddha. In the end it comes down to choosing betweeng being miserable and pathethic and lingering on this fact; or being miserable and noble and happy.

>>158923262

I used to look at pictures of my dad always handsome and smiling, either messing around with his commodore 64 or at the arcades with a bunch of cool dudes or graduating university magna cum laude and think "wow what the FUCK happened".

Yeah, you're going through it pal, everybody eventually does. You get working, you get dumb, you get debt, you get boring, you get on with your shitty life.

I'm 23 now, still a neet.
I've spent my past years studying(alone) japanese, I wanted to get in a polyglot teacher/translation career because I already knew 3 idioms by then so I had confidence to learn one more, of course I also like reading etc.
And I "succeeded", I'm good enough at japanese now to read even classic literature, but I can't help but feel like I absolutely ruined my life. I think deep down I just enjoyed being alone but doing nothing was too remorseful so I had to create an illusion to forgive myself, and I did so by studying languages/literature and telling myself I was being productive.
23 years. never went to uni, friendless, jobless and most of all hopeless.
A lot of people tell me that I'm smart and that I should just go to uni(they re free in my country btw) already and then I will someday be a successful adult.
But I can't feel like that at all, I feel too old to go to uni, I don't have self-esteem anymore, loneliness crushed me and I didn't even notice, when I realized it was too late.
I'm lonely and it hurts it hurts a lot, I crave for a hug or a friend but when I'm at a party/event or something I feel isolated from everyone, its 3am here, I just came from an "event", where I danced with a random chick, it was nothing special, and honestly I could only think about going home and watching anime, but now that I'm here I feel miserable and suicidal, God I should have kissed her or something? I don't think I would have enjoyed that even though I crave for human warm like a madmen, as soon as I'm close to them I just feel out of place, like a monster, like someone unqualified for love/friendship.
God I swear I wasn't like this, I had dreams, confidence and I was weird, but somehow happy, I'm my own way.
Everything feels so useless now I was stupid and I did everything wrong... I used to think I had many friends on /a/ but now I feel myself hated even here.
Just don't end up like me, before its too late... I know it is for me.. sorry.

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Currently a hikki/neet and I'm perfectly content with my lifestyle. I have no incentive to become a wageslave because I'd be having constant mental breakdowns from my social anxiety, and plus I don't want to be hating myself every single day. I didn't choose to come into this world and have all these absurd expectations put onto me at birth. When push comes to shove and I've lost every support I have, then I'm ending it all. I hate society and the people who're a part of it; Fuck this world.

>>158927219
For real, 23 ain't nothing for starting university. I know 43 year old ex-cons who are doing it.

>>158924557
Man, I've always been more of a lurker and posted only a few times, so the first time I saw this I didn't really think I could be allowed to take part in the feels.
But it's been years and I've been here way too long. Seeing this today somehow hit me in a strong way. I hope the anons who left are living nice lifes or found some kind of happiness and I hope you do too when you leave. That's all.

>>158911151
Only thing I took away from Welcome to NHK is women are sociopaths who use people like a cat plays with a mouse before killing it and social anxiety is caused by internalized socially unacceptable feelings like pedophilia.

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NEET here, I regret every moment of being a neet and wasting my life. I'm now 20, and it's my birthday today.

90% of the problems listed here are literally over magnified. Jesus guys, grow some balls will you? You work with what you have, and keep trying daily

>>158927831
I know right, just be yourself lol

>>158927779
i think this is the first time i might actually need to call someone a nigger

the hell is wrong with you, you have the sam age as me, go study something, get a job, make friends, you are young

>>158927779
>20

it's literally nothing, you're basically a baby. You probably just have mild social anxiety and shitty parents or something. Go talk to a therapist for an hour a week or month and do something you enjoy instead of killing time.

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https://pastebin.com/BSZDiAKd

>Live

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>he thinks Misaki actually saved anyone

>>158916328
>He became a hikkineeto because of his lack of self esteem and shitty mental health
He became one because his parents allowed him too. It's not just something you can choose to do, you have to have someone paying for your pathetic fucking life.

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>>158928003
https://pastebin.com/j8K45DDD

>>158928100
Who thinks that?

>>158928271
Have you read a single NHK thread in the last decade?

>>158926844
Is there anything left to my life outside of decaying and rotting until my mind turns into a mush?
Even if it's the case, it's still too early for this to happen, I don't want myself to end here

>>158928271
Retards who waifus her? I mean, you don't browse NHK thread much, do you?

>>158928283
No, I don't trust the internet's opinion on anything that even approaches requiring how actual human beings work.

>>158928240
>RIDE ON SHOOTING STAR KOKORO NO KOE DE

>>158922612
Be a dekiru ningen, Anon

>>158911151
>tfw experiencing my own misaki
>she is ugly as shit and a 1/10 (one out of ten)
>most insecure girl I've ever met in my life
>keeps me around as her friend because she likes to insult me and make me feel terrible in order to make herself feel better
>tfw if she wasn't ugly as shit I would be fine

I want to strangle hwr

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>>158928331
You are ningen dekinai.

>>158928376
Just tell her she is ugly as shit

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>>158923262
I had to drop out from college due to financial aid issues and at one point wouldnt leave my room because I was honestly afraid to talk to others. I had to leave one day and I remember crying from just the sunlight because I was used to a computer screen and a dark room. Two years later I went back to school, community college, albeit, found a job at a country club as a prep cook and serving guests, and have gotten rid of my most of social anxieties. What got out of the slump was reading a story about a guy that gets a second chance at life and makes the most of it. That convinced me that I can also change my shit and honestly has helped me alot. I have even met a girl who also had similar issues and been able to talk to here. Trust me its never too late to change things, just find what gives you that boost to motivate yourself.

>>158911151
Barely graduated art school, dropped out of uni, poor as fuck and now I draw waifus for you faggots to make monies. How about that? But hey, at least I met my significant other on this shitty site and now we're browsing it together.

It's never too late for your perfect waifu to be real, get out of your basement and meet people.

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I think i always had a really good amount of sucess, i mean in every school/job i've been too people always tell me that im smart and that i make a god job

but over the last months i just started losing a bit of hope, what's the point of being sucessful at something if everytime i like a girl she chooses another guy, even when im already going out with a girl and i feel totally safe to express my feelings, it turns out there was always another guy, the time it hurt the most was when a girl decided that being with a drug addict cheater was a better choice than me, those last 2 events made me go from feeling like the luckiest guy ever to feeling like trash

im going to enter a totally new and fancy school soon but i have just lost all the confidence i used to have in myself, so i'll just concentrate in my job i don't want any emotions anymore

>>158927779
Cheer up, at least you're not a wageslave.

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>>158928240
https://pastebin.com/dHx6AL33

>>158928289

I live in the 15th floor of an apartment building. When I get home after work and the elevator is already at 0 and empty, that's my happiness. I live for it. You'll learn too.

>>158925721
yes welcome to wageslavery. welcome to the rest of your damn life. im in the same boat: you either live hikki life, or be forced to be another cog in the machine.

and no anime girls will save us

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>>158929300
You should love your job anon, else quit it and find something you love to be engrossed in.

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>>158929300
>and no anime girls will save us

This one hits hard every time. No lie.

20 years old hikki here, been shutting up in my room since I was 18. I do take some online classes so I'm not a neet. It's only horrible in the first year, but after a while it's easy to accept that you'll always be a loser. I already gave up everything, at least I've got my waifu here.

>>158929490
>online classes

Are those actually good? Do they actually provide you with an equal amount of education of an actual class room (I'd guess not but I don't know)?

Honest question.

>>158929564
Well, obviously not. They only give you an intro and a few pointers here and there.

>>158929564
"I think they're valuable, but I'd never say they somehow constitute a complete education."
>http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/01/05/461506508/sal-khan-on-learning-coding-and-why-virtual-ed-is-not-enough

>>158929300
Cry wageslave all you want, it will never be anywhere near as detestable as being a shameless leech on, most likely, your family. I would personally never be able to live with the disgust such a lifestyle would cause me.

>>158929706
Pretty much. It's better than nothing since I'm too sphagetti to attend classes.

I have three months of free time before i attend college and i guess i'll be a legit NEET for the first time in those three months
Only three weeks in and it's starting to become depressing as hell

>>158930025
Never in the history of humanity has there been a individual who was perpetually happy. Even the abrahamic god is unable.

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>>158911151
NHK made me realize that the only way for me to not be a shitshow of a human is to find someone who needs me, so I have a reason to not be a lazy fuck and improve myself for her.
But I won't find Anyone like that in my room, so I have to cling to my hope to actually finish uni, get a job and not become even worse

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>>158930716
Would it help if I told you I want you to be better?

>>158930716
Pretty sure NHK had the literal exact opposite message.

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>tfw NEET but not a hikky anymore

I thought it would feel good though and it did for a while, but instead of cooping inside of my humble abode I'm constantly trying to avoid that place.

It's hard to win a game of life

>>158930798
probably not, my parents want me to be a respectable person too, but that doesn't work either. I think it needs to be someone who actually needs me
>>158930852
that may be, but I'm stupid, so maybe I just didn't understand it

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>>158923262
Hi baito-kun here is a (you), enjoy.

>>158911151
i don't know about influencing me bad or worse but it did make me feel good after dropping out of college that there was someone who was able to capture at least some of what I felt and become successful because of it.

But no, I'm still a useless person and I have no marketable skill or money

>>158923653
DUDE

>>158929300
How many investments have you made to escape your wageslave life, cuck?
Everyone loves saying that there is no escape but no one is willing to take any steps to improve their quality of life.
I'm corporate wageslave myself, but at the very least I try to save up most of my income and invest in hopes of escaping this life. It's possible, plenty of people did it. The trick is to try and not blow your fucking money on shiny toys, like most of brainlets do.

>>158931450
>I think it needs to be someone who actually needs me

Need - a lack of something requisite, desirable, or useful.
>https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/need

According to this: you need to requisite, desirable, or useful. Let's face it, if all you have is a hammer, every thing looks like a nail. So I guess you have to invest time and effort and more time so you're not "just" the proverbial hammer. Inevitably, becoming a better person before you have someone to need you. Think of it as a sort of advanced payment, a pre-order if what /v/ calls it.

>>158931519
>I'm still a useless person and I have no marketable skill or money.
This attribute is not carved in stone, mind you.

>>158922292
Studied for six years between two unis. Switched courses 3 times.

Worked as a 3D artist in the games industry for 4 years doing soul crushing drab work.

Besides minimal social contact with family and colleagues, don't feel like socializing. Feeling social anxiety more and more.

Recently resigned, haven't talked to anybody. Working off my notice period.

No idea what to do with life. Might be turning into a hikiNeet.

Turning 30 next year. Still have not felt the warmth of a woman in bed. Gonna be a wizard.

>>158931991
>becoming a better person before you have someone to need you
that's something you often read and hear and I think its true in a way. That's why I, and I guess many other people, still have moments when I try to improve myself.
but I often heard that I'm smart, funny, loveable, etc even if it's just from my parents or my now ex-gf but that doesn't show when there is nobody who needs me to be all that

>>158932153
>Feeling social anxiety more and more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iGk87bug2s

>No idea what to do with life.
Can you tell me what you love doing?

>Turning 30 next year. Still have not felt the warmth of a woman in bed. Gonna be a wizard.
The Social Skills Guidebook, by Chris Macleod
How to Talk to Anyone: 92 Little Tricks for Big Success in Relationships, by Leil Lowndes

>>158928289
No
t. Office wagecuck

You might find happiness in knowing that everyone else is suffering as well

>>158911151
This anime is nothing but mindless self-deprecation wank without any good message or morals.

>>158932688
>without any good message or morals
Oh boy, here comes the /lit/ wannabe.

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>>158932243
Never let the words of other people and even the people that you love gain so much leverage over you. I saved some words some anon made back a few years, I think it's a little bit relevant:

>You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you.
>If words control you that means everyone else can control you; breathe and allow things to pass.

>>158932346
Honestly all these "how to win friends and influence people" books and material is nothing but business shlock for manipulating people to get what you want.
The only thing you need to make friends is openness and a bit of drive.

>dude im under 30 and my life is a mess lol
you are literally all children lmao

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>>158932846
Of course you'll suffer if everything that is said to you has an emotional reaction, it if it wouldn't provoke any reaction, then what's the purpose of human interaction.
I guess that's where my knowledge of life reaches its limits. like >>158932976 said, Im only 21 so I'll guess everything will turn out good in the end

>>158932976
I don't what's there to laugh about if you're implying that you're older than that and yet still posting on 4chan.

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>>158932975
>Honestly all these "how to win friends and influence people" books and material is nothing but business shlock for manipulating people to get what you want.
At worst those books and materials can tell you how to look out for those kinds of people.
At best, use it to your advantage, but place the moral limits others could not. To quote, Abraham Lincoln:
>"Nearly all men can stand the test of adversity, but if you really want to test a man's character, give him power."

At best or worst, the reader wins.

>The only thing you need to make friends is openness and a bit of drive.
A very good part of it is, but not only.

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Reminder that the author is now 39 and as of his last update still a hikikomori.

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>>158934142
>Im only 21 so I'll guess everything will turn out good in the end.
Here I am, hoping a good end will come to you.

The thing is I don't even know what would make me happy. I feel alone, but when I am with people I feel even worse. I'm not interested in them and they are not interested in me. I like to think about how nice it would be to have a close friend to share everything with, but when I apply those concepts to real life they are just not the same. I can't find a person I feel close to and who makes me feel I want to spend time with.I just feel far away from everyone. I think most relationships people have with each other are completely shallow and people use others so they won't be alone. I don't want something shallow. Does that make any sense? Do you feel the pain anons?

>>158934570
well thank you
where in your life are you right now?

>>158934638
>The thing is I don't even know what would make me happy.
A youngster does not want to become a pilot, a doctor, or a lawyer out of his own imagination. He wants to because he was exposed to. I suggest you get yourself exposure and find the things which would make you happy first hand.

>I feel alone, but when I am with people I feel even worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iGk87bug2s

>I can't find a person I feel close to and who makes me feel I want to spend time with.I just feel far away from everyone.
>I don't want something shallow
If it's not a chore, can you please tell me more?

>>158934705
30's is just around the corner, and my incompetencies are just as identical.

>>158935175
Thank you that's a nice video.
>If it's not a chore, can you please tell me more?
Well the thing is when I first meet someone I may feel excited, but when I actually get to know them I find out that I have nothing in common with them and I immediately lose all interest. When I try to give people a chance, I always have to go out of my way, go to places I don't like, talk about things I don't care about and pretend I care about them etc. So in the end of the day I just prefer being left alone.There is no connection I feel with others and hanging around people is troublesome. When I'm outside the only thing Im thinkinh about is being left alone,but when I am alone I just feel empty I'd love to have friends but I don't seem to get along with anyone. I thought that to meet people I like I should go to place where people with same interests with me would hang out, but I don't think such place exists. Thinking about it someone who I would get along with would be isolated in his house just like me. I am becoming more and more spiteful everyday and I hate this. It's also hard for me to trust people.I just have to accept that I'll be alone and focus on myself I guess..
Thanks for listening.

I guess didn't have it bad as some since I did have work and life experience to an extent under my belt but still didn't help that I had mental disorders.
I was a hiki for over half a year and enjoyed it. I literally didn't speak to anyone but myself, never leave my room during the day or the house for that matter, only crept out at midnight to eat/shower/toilet, my mother was kind enough to leave food out for me, surprised she didn't bother me for soo many months, can't imagine the stress I must had put her through. One day reality hits and bills need to be paid so I just pulled myself together. It was refreshing and scary to say the least. Looking back at the anime my situation was similar to that mmo guy minus the shitty behaviour, I kept to myself and still to this day I haven't recovered socially to how I was. I wouldn't mind going back being a hiki again and live the quiet life but like I said, reality hits.

>>158935175
>30's is just around the corner, and my incompetencies are just as identical.
I guess everybody needs a goal in his Life and if you have a place you feel like you belong to it is easier to find that goal. I don't know how relevant this is to you but you're older than me so I kinda feel everything I say is something you probably already thought of yourself.
>>158935828
it sounds like a cliche but I guess you just haven't found the right people yet. I only really have a better connection with a handful of the people I interact with.
I can understand the frustration in interacting with people you can't connect to, but I guess the best chance you have is to keep on trying until you find one or more people you understand and who understand you. But keep in mind that it takes time for both parties to get comfortable around others so maybe they go through the same. so try not to give up on someone too early

typing all of this feels overly melodramatic if I consider that I'm still young and just feel lonely. That's nothing special and many people got through this part of life, so why shouldn't I

>>158936746
You are right. It may happen one day and If not oh well.
>typing all of this feels overly melodramatic if I consider that I'm still young and just feel lonely. That's nothing special and many people got through this part of life, so why shouldn't I.
I also came to realise this.
Everyone feels some kind of pain and sadness. There is no absolute happiness.Your sadness doesn't make you special and you can't use your depression as an excuse since almost everyone feels like this nowadays. No one is gong to give you special attention just because of it.
You have to find a goal to keep you going.Take risks and move on.
I'm kind of lost right now but my goal is to find a goal. That's cheesy as fuck but don't give up. I hope you all find your way one day.

>Fat ugly hikikomori NEET
>Desperately crave human affection and interaction
>Too autistic to relate to normal people in person, can only have conversations on this website
>Back when I actually tried to be social and talk to people my mind just went completely blank, I couldn't think of anything to say besides apologizing for being so quiet and weird
>Haven't left house to do anything but take garbage out since 2014
>Started this lifestyle to try to pursue pure escapism, hated everything about school, my family, the world
>Abandoned the only girlfriend I ever had to try and escape reality, blocked her phone number and forgot it, didn't know where she lived, don't have any way to ever speak to her again
>Even typical escapism doesn't work for me now, I struggle to enjoy my hobbies anymore, I just want to sleep the days away
>Can't because I'm a fucking insomniac
>Applied for NEETbux
>Probably going to get rejected because they only seemed concerned with my IQ and whether I was literally too retarded to work
>Genuinely feel uncomfortable being outside of my house, not just around people, but even in my back yard having wind blowing on me or feeling the heat of the sun feels bad, something about the outside world feels surreal and dreamlike, it just makes me want to go back to the comfort of my room
>Afraid to die so I can't just kill myself to end this misery


Why did we have to be born into such a worthless and unsatisfying existence?

>>158936122
Enjoying being alone isn't something that you should necessarily feel guilty in regards to. But the fact that you pulled yourself together and decided that you had caused too many problems for people such as your mother is enough growth in such a short period of time. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be alone, but that's something that you have to do in moderation. The realisation that there are other people whom you have to take care of yourself for the sake of is good enough, anon. Good job and well done.

>>158937341
>I'm kind of lost right now but my goal is to find a goal.
Words to live by.

>>158937548
>Why did we have to be born into such a worthless and unsatisfying existence?
So you could mold yourself an opposite one.
You got to get yourself together, man.
>>158928660
>>158928240
>>158928003

Take heart.

>was NEET, want to die
>went to school, want to die
>now have a job, want to die

When does it get better?

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>>158937922
>When does it get better?
When you become honest with yourself, and decide to BE better.

>>158937852
>So you could mold yourself an opposite one

That's a bit hard to do when you feel like there's nothing in this world that can make you truly happy, when human society feels alien and you want nothing to do with the world.

>>158937548
Fuck anon I don't even know you but I just really really really don't won't you to stay like that. You have to change. Don't do this to yourself. I also can't socialize and I also have anxiety (not as bad as yours by any means) so I won't tell you to go out and make friends or whatever. But please at least try to get out of that situation.Don't give up. Try to pull yourself together.
Not going out at all is going to turn you fucking insane.
Whenever I feel fed up with everything and after staying in too long, I like taking small walks preferably at remote places. I enjoy the little things like the moonlight, a beautiful sunset, the sun's warmth, petting a dog. It may sound gay but shit like this make me feel peaceful even for a moment.Your problems won't be solved by no means like this but hey it's something.
Take small steps and maybe one day you'll be where you want to be.Dont let the time pass just like that.
There is a whole world out there.
You'll be in my thoughts anon I am rooting for you.

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>>158938174
Let me tell you about the most boring and forgettable anime characters I have watched until now: It was about perfect characters, who in their perfection never had any sort of character development, If it was a heart monitor it'd show a flat line, they were dead.

The shows I enjoyed watching were the shows were the characters were flawed not flawless, where they learned that there was never going to be a magical solution for their problem. Where they were beaten, spit on, with a boot on their throat. The characters who knew what the ground tasted.smeared in dirt, shit, and blood. Who pulled themselves together when the whole FUCKING world would have understood if they'd just decomposed right there to put a stop to whatever hell it is they are experiencing. But No, they did not. They refused, They sought culpability. They BLAMED themselves, who the hell blames themselves? And after, they changed to what they had to be and not what they want to be.

You can do it anon. If not for your ultimate happiness, do it or greatness.

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>>158937341
>It may happen one day and If not oh well.
I can still hope to get isekaid one day

>>158937548
UnFAT yourself Anon, everything starts from there.

I've already accepted that my life will never improve no matter how much I try. Being ugly and stupid is one thing, but being entirely self aware too just makes it hell.

I'm just watching anime and playing video games until I find a good enough reason to kill myself.

>>158911151
I watched NHK after I started working, which was after I had graduated uni and started working on my master's degree. I was never really NEET but all it managed to remind me of were the long, lazy summer vacations where I had nothing to do and all time was free time. I have a good job, it's not hard for me, it's almost never stressful, it pays pretty damn well but none of those make the knowledge that I'll likely never enjoy a summer like that again while young any less unpleasant. I wouldn't want to mooch off of my parents while not being able to afford anything, but I'd fucking love to have free time like that again.

I don't know how bad it gets if you're a NEET for a long time, but I also don't see why some people see having a job like salvation. I do the job for the money, if I had no need to do that there would be many more pleasant ways to spend my days. And that's while doing a job in the field I enjoy and dreamt of pretty much since I was a kid.

>>158911151
I tried living alone, didn't last more than 3 months

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>>158937922
when you die obviously

>>158941479
>tfw too intelligent to be happy

What's great was as I finished this anime, 3 days later I landed my first job.

Quite fitting for timing huh?

I am a hikki at heart and spirit even though I have a job. I dont see anyone or dont talk to anyone unless they talk to me. I need the pay or else I starve

>>158932688
It's an experience, not a lesson. If you go into an anime expecting a cure for your anti-social ways you're a moron.
>the author of Welcome to the N.H.K went right back to being a hikki after making the show/manga
the lesson is that there is no lesson

>>158925721
>enlist to the military

Don't do it. At they very least don't go straight from NEETdom to military life, take an intermediate step of wageslavery first, or you'll literally go insane from the level of regimentation.

>>158942503
Who are you quoting?

>>158937922
It's already better. It always was. Happiness is a ruse and a myth. The only way to truly be satisfied is to simply learn to be content with what one already has. If you want nothing you will never be wanting for anything. Life does in fact have a meaning, and that is life itself. Nothing more.

It's a rude awakening, but the only ones who will never want to die are the ones who are fine with the way they live. Life sucks, but that's alright.

>>158928003
>>158928240
>R*ddit
FUCK OOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Listen up, youngfags. I'm 29, and didn't get a job until 23. That lifestyle will drive you insane, and you won't even realize how crazy you are until you're out of it. Even working some wage slave job will give you some sort of sense of purpose. You have to save yourselves, because no one else in the world will ever give a shit about you.

>>158947535
I have a job and am way more miserable than when I was NEET so fuck off you pretend-oldfag.

>>158947535
Fuck off. People don't work a job because they need some sense of purpose. People work a job so they don't starve. It's involuntary. A sense of purpose can be achieved without slaving away for a representation of the imaginary worth of your meager contribution to the economy. If you really want to work on something, you'll probably work on it whether or not you get paid for it. NEETs have already saved themselves.

I was never a hikki or NEET because I couldn't stand the idea of dependence on others.

I'm basically a corporat with a facade generic personality and an empty interior because I couldn't bring myself to be a NEET that needed to live at the mercy of someone else's wallet.

Would constant media consumption as a NEET been a "happier" existence than the emptiness of consumerism that comes with decent pay? That's a pointless question because I never got much enjoyment out of either. Never found myself engrossed in elements of either reality.

I suppose most people will make something the core of their life whether it's media consumption for NEETs, materialism for the various social classes that can afford it, specialized hobbies that bring out some sort of pleasure for those lucky enough to have the ability to enjoy life on that level.

I have never seen this focal point in my life. I'm as "happy" sitting in an expensive apartment as I would be sitting in a single small room as long as I'm left alone. The food all tastes the same after a while. Sex is the most overrated over marketed thing in society. The satisfaction of wearing expensive clothes is invalidated because of the superficial nature of the people that would recognize them. You stop enjoying a variety of genres and media after a certain threshold of consumption. Everything starts to have this generic mass production edge to it.

I wish I was a different type of special snowflake. It's like the world is a water color canvas that was left in the rain.

Is it worth reading the novel if it was translated by
>tokyopop

>>158950208
It's a pretty decent translation with relatively minimal localization, and there are a lot of TL notes in the back. Kind of uncharacteristic for Tokyopop, but this was ten years ago when they were slightly less terrible than they are these days.

>>158950418
Thanks, going to read it now

>>158950128
>I suppose most people will make something the core of their life whether it's media consumption for NEETs
The core of a NEET's life is sleeping.

>>158953156
How normal people function with less than 12 hours of sleep a day is a mystery to me.

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>>158927831
This.
Humans are social beings. our bodys and brains are still Hunter/Gatherer. technology and knowledge is making us forget this.
And we are social primates.
Adapt and survive. or wither away. Don't leech off of society if you choose the latter. someone pays for your checks.
Clean your room.

>>158953156
didn't think of that
sleep must be relieving

I guess NEETs would need to have a good sleep/media balance otherwise they would have a problem with overconsumption

Would it be fair to say that a NEETs worst nightmare might be general loss of interest?

>>158954595
No, when you lose interest in everything you just sleep until you feel doing something again, taking breaks to wait until you feel sleepy again. Most NEETs do not have a lot of money so overconsumption is not an issue.

A baby monkey will choose a fluffy doll mother that gives no milk over a cold, purely mechanical one that does.

Social needs are just as important, if not even more so, than physical ones.

Anon, you're dying.

>>158922344
drugs aren't very fun without friends anon

>>158954836
>Most NEETs do not have a lot of money so overconsumption is not an issue.
I see. That makes sense although it must be difficult to keep the outside world out

>>158954960
>Social needs
This place is more than enough to satisfy that. There are so many normalfags that it's not really any different than a high school.

>>158955120
Most don't need to since someone is paying for them to live like that. And even for the others just a few bills to be paid isn't really much intrusion.

How has this thread lasted so long? Was a nice read. Thanks /a/.

>>158959888
>How has this thread lasted so long?

People need an outlet from time to time.

OP here. Christ I didn't expect this much. Gonna have a nice read-through now. Thanks for contributing, everyone.

>>158959888
mods don't give a fuck

I was a hikki NEET for two years and I hated it. Eventually got a job at a warehouse (minimal conversation), and finally decided to enroll into college. Then moved up to university.
I'm getting my grades and passing, but there's not a speck of social life. I just get in and get out, and sometimes I just avoid classes for weeks. I mean, it's great that I'll have a degree in the future which could give me a good job and a cosy salary, but with no social skills and extreme anxiety I wonder if it's even worth it

>>158926510
That's a nice self help guru you posted.

>>158927219
>I thought it was nothing special
>God i should've kissed her or something

Yeah, you clearly enjoy this role you're playing. Enjoy being miserable.

Honestly man I would stop the whole "woe is me" persona and go to university. You clearly have a practical interest in literature and languages. Use it to become a teacher.

>>158939988

How do I do that without going outside?

I hardly have any motivation to lose weight, my skin is covered in noticeable acne scars from when I was a teenager so even if I got /fit/ I'd still be ugly as fuck.

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>>158926844
I look at pictures of parents and think that I'll never be happy as they were because the world is different now, you know, all about social networks, even pictures don't have the same value as before, when they would gather everyone for a picture to remember things and wait days for the film to be revealed.

>>158927219
I kinda feel like that some moments, but I don't even go to events, I just don't know how to deal with people overall because everything they say is uninteresting and they don't care about the same things I do, I haven't been near a female or even had a hug in 2 years.

>>158943503
I haven't done it, but I kinda really wanted, my country haves mandatory conscription and I was a NEET exactly after high school, so I opted in but ended up not getting in because they already had the numbers they needed, even though I passed physical and eyesight tests.

>>158929300
Such is life on a soul crushing consumerist machine, thanks for (((them))).
I do like my job, but of course all the love won't save from eventual thoughts about it, hell I know some people would envy me because I can take days off, do home office, don't need to accomplish daily schedules, as long as I get things done when they need it and I get paid fairly well, but all for? I pay my parent's bills mostly, what is left after I put on investments, I just spend on things to forget about how senseless everything is.

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If I'm not technically a NEET would I still relate to the show?

I have a job and am going to college, but I'm still a socially awkward sperglord without many friends or a gf

>>158965107
Why don't you watch it and decide for yourself, dumb feelsposter.

I'm a neet of 5+ years with mild social anxiety and depression. I don't live in japan (finland), so I can't talk as to whether or not the show has much basis in reality but I can tell you it's as far as it gets from mine. Finns get pretty much what is comparable to working minimum wage in clapistan (1000eur after taxes) just from social benefits, so money is never an issue unless you have massive mental problems and as a result can't manage your finances.

As far as the show goes, it's pretty much brainwash for young adults to actually think about their lives, which can be good or bad depending how you view it. As an anime it was dumb, idiotic and pretty bad (almost dropped it multiple times, and took months to finish the full show), but it does well with capturing some of those sentiments of NEET life.

Like for example the importance of finding something that gives your everyday life some meaning, in the show I think that was making the doujin-game and maybe something else, been too long to remember.

I mean I've spent probably 95% of the time in the past 5 years inside my house and that feels normal to me. I try to feed my interests (stydying japan, I play an instrument, read about stuff... etc) to keep my head sane, and honestly I'm not even concerned about my future. Maybe I'll stay like this forever or maybe not, I don't really think about it. I'm not suicidal and I enjoy my life probably as much as any person here does.

What an incoherent ramble of a post this was.

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Damn this thread is depressing

>>158966778
I love how the manga went and did its own thing.

>>158922292
>>158932153
>>158925721
>>158923262
>>158928459
try meditation. 1st rule of being a neet is to reach enlightenment

>thread full of blogging
>normalfags talking about fucking 3DPD
>not getting deleted

Is this the power summer?

>>158967473
Welcome to every thread about NHK

>>158967510
No this is even worse than usual.