Shingeki no Bahamut

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HEY WAIT A MINUTE-

>>158889561
Based Cheerios always has a plan.

>>158889581
Please tell me anon. Was this whole scene a two in the pink one in the stink joke? Did Rita make the hand so that it would explode if kaisar ever decided to finger a girl other than her.

The king is such a fucking hack.

He constantly cries about how many humans died in the war against demons, how that is unforgivable, etc. And then he causes even more human deaths because of his selfish quest for power.

>>158889884
No because he needs the power to protect humanity and the gods being the pretentious assholes they are want their power back because they are scared of humanity. Instead of the gods helping humanity fight the demon thread the just watched and expected to receive prayers for that.

>>158890169
>gib me shit for free

>>158890290
>pray and revere us
>you actually expect us to do something?

>>158889561

How the fuck can a Hitler kill Gods and angels?

>>158890381
Gods were so happy for one holy maiden that they conveniently gave her a weapon to kill them. Wytearp, Livian, Dorma etc. were seemingly peaceful, secular cities, nothing shown on screen implies the average dude like Favaro had to worship anything but pussy.

>>158890437
Reminder they left Jeanne to die and humans did in a couple of years what gods hadn't in millennia about demons.

>>158890478
Yeah humans need to be babysat better.

>>158890517
More like gods don't even have the right to be butthurt about being decimated, literally doing nothing to help humans for centuries does that.

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>>158889561
>angelcucks keep telling that they will btfo humans
>the madman btfos them instead

>>158890564
We're looking at Charioce and Charioce with meatbags this season. I don't think you can argue sensibly about the state of things based on their words and actions anyway.

>>158890648
The fact the gods had to rely on literal Favaro to save the world proves they are useless.

I'm really surprised Cheerios didn't reveal to the world that Favaro saved it and tried to use him as a humanity wanking device.

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ARCHANGEL OF GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT to teach angels some proper justice and valor fucking when?

>>158890697
Favaro is just the MC in an action show, of course he saves the day. And he would've sat on top of a mountain waiting to get blasted were it not for his god buddy giant duck.

>>158889833
Survey says: yes.

>Rita is so best she even create an exploding hand for Kaisar just in case and it ended up helping him
Sasuga.

>>158889833
More like it's a very specific finger position that wouldn't come up in everyday life. Besides, you Favaro had to say a spell, to activate it.

>>158890838
She is literally batman with how prepared she is. Why hasn't Kaiser taken such a girl as a wife yet?

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>>158890992
I found it funny (besides how convenient it is to suddenly know you have an exploding prosthetic hand for a prison escape) Favaro still remembers the sequence how to blow up Kaisar's hand despite how long he's been imprisoned,

>>158890752
https://youtu.be/WbphmPd9Dag?t=1257
NOW

Can someone tell me what is the point of favaro in virgin souls. Just kill him already

Red pill me on why heaven is full of literal niggers, while the top angels are all white aryan perfect breeding material angels?

>>158891386
Ok we get it

>>158891571
>top angels are all white
>slave angels are black
You got your answer

Need some good hentai about angels becoming cock slaves.

>>158891716
But they are in femdom heaven, that's why the niggers are the grunts.

>>158891754
What about Michael?

>>158891789
He's their top fuckboi, that's why he looks so feminine.

>>158891461
>English Imperius: "Sacrilage"
>Jap Imperius: "kisama
Jesus fucking Christ, japs. Even russians got that line right.

>>158891571
>>158891625
Bachus is a pretty strong god.

>Aryan angels
Not according to the canon game.

>Your Majesty. If you keep antagonizing the gods they'll eventually have enough of your shit and will retaliate.
>It'd be really bad if that happens and if you just stopped being such a fucking asshole we could all easily prevent this

>No! Ready our forces! We'll go to war with the heavens! Nothing can go wrong!

Why did these threads ever have Charioce supporters to begin with? Just for shitposting?
Just look at all the humans who had to flee the capital in order to not get caught in Charioce's petty war. And even having fled the capital they still had their homes crushed and burned.

Charioce is not good for humanity.

>>158891974
You'll get ningen'd too, scum!

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>>158891974
It was more like
>angels, give us weapons so we can stop getting btfo by demons. Or at least help us.
>lol no, pray to us, fagit
>k, we'll just take it by force
>wtf we're btfo now
>maybe we should attack in full force while we still can, and take the tech back from humans?
>nah, let's wait
>wtf we're double btfo

It's a miracle they remember how to breathem honestly

>>158892131
Do you really think those stock photo memes are funny?

Why does Favaro have a log leg ?

>>158892131
>Or at least help us.
But they have assisted humanity for ages. It was Charioce who broke that arrangement.
All the magic you saw the knights use in the first season was thanks to the gods.

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Holy shit
https://twitter.com/keiichiree_Z/status/878624041539588097

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Will Rita ever recover?

>>158892502
I loved their reunion. It was beautiful.

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>>158892502
No.

So is Rita unable or unwilling to reattach Kaisar's hand?

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>>158892476
Jesus those nipples. Based Satou.

>>158891389
He's been planning this for 10 years.

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Gabriel is a fucking hack.

She constantly bitches and moans that humans are worshiping her, how she protects them and shit, etc, and yet only one city was ever protected and that was by fucking Michael. She does more harm than good in her quest to have a human populate of fuck toys.

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This is some EVA bullshit now.

>>158893666
Put her on the dick.

>>158891560
>killing off the literally best character in this whole series

>>158893666
Gabriel is my wife.

>>158893918
She needs a dozen of unclean, dirty hobo dicks in all of her holes!

>>158893954
Gabriel would never, you would be her chair and she would use your face to warm her lazy ass up everyday.

>>158892502
You know she still has her pet disembodied hand, right?

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>>158892502
I saw Rita as more of a maternal figure to Kaisar in Genesis. She was mature and cool, but cared for that idiot because he was like a goddamn puppy.
That they made her romantically infatuated with Kaisar actually kinda detracts from her awesomeness.

They also won't have Jeanne and Kaisar hook up, despite it making more sense, because she caries all that MUH MICHAEL baggage and who ever heard of a woman moving the fuck on in fiction.

>>158893666
>in her quest to have a human populate of fuck toys.
I'll volunteer, all I ask for is to get to live in heaven and be exempt from disease and ageing.

I won't mind worshipping Gabriel's divine pussy for eternity.

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Give me your opinions

http://www.strawpoll.me/13274249

>>158894379
No, because Gabriel will think you are trash. All you get is to worship her and hope some humans who give no fucks about Gabriel and her femdom heaven or demons who just don't like you don't decide to kill you while Gabriel provides no protection at all.

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>>158894116
They do seem to be pushing a lot of Jeanne and Kaisar interactions. Especially since that short that showed that they have great chemistry and get along very well. But like you said I doubt it will be romantic since Jeanne is 100% all about "muh micheal", but it's nice to know that they think of each other so highly.

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I want Gabriel stripped of her divine power and paraded around town by leash and collar, in the naked while guys jerk off on her.

I want Gabriel placed in pillory while in the town square, fucked by numerous guys.

I want Gabriel forced to work in a whorehouse, giving out rimjobs to hobos for free.

I want a Gabriel soapland where she has to use her pure body to clean and cleanse dirty old men and young horny stubs for hours upon hours. Including her cleans cocks with her mouth.

Fuck Gabriel.

Gabriel is not very different from Cheerios. Cheerios is even worse.

>>158894721
I want Gabriel to marry me and for us to be happy together.

>>158894762
I want to marry Gabriel to my cock, to cherish and to honor my cock for death do them part.

>>158894459
Kaisar is delusional, Cheerios can't be reasoned with so you kill or imprison Cheerios and then the status quo can return. Azazel is right.

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>>158894594
In general I like that they made a good effort to integrate Jeanne into the central group, after keeping her mostly apart from everyone for so long.

I also wouldn't mind them building up the galpal angle with Nina.

>>158894379
>>158894448

>>158894721

I see there are two very opposite kinds of anons in here.

>there are charioce fans who would gladly burn their very own capital and homes to the ground just to get a chance to hurt the angels a bit
>because being assisted by the angels is apparently an insult and not being assisted even more is apparently oppression
I don't even. You are just trolling, right?

>>158892309
Yes.

>>158895809
I'd do what needs to be done to get a shot at making Softiel my sex slave.

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>>158895881
Imagine Gaby giving you an angry blowjob.

>>158896291
Just imagine Gabriel trying to maintain that face in front of hordes of nigger angels while there is a vibrator up inside her pussy.

>>158889581
>the 3 fingers swap position

CANT UNSEE

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>>158896291
I'd rather imagine Sofiel giving me an angry paizuri

>>158895881
>>158896291
>>158896780
Call me weird. But the idea of her loving me and embracing me out of passion and love sounds much more divine to me.

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>>158896862
You can have love you and still ask for an angry face during a blowjob anon.

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>>158896862
>they don't want wing hugs

You aren't weird anon, they're just terrible at seeing opportunities and potentials.

>>158893666
S1 Gabriel > S2 Gabriel

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>>158889561
>just kill them
>mfw it works

So I googled rage of bahamut and I keep getting links to Shadowverse, that weeb hearthstone is the same thing then...?

>>158900499
Rage of Bahamut and Shadowverse take place in the same universe.

>>158900651
redpill me on it, is it good or trash

Why does all the language in this anime imply that that one city is the only one on earth.

Cheerios is anti-god and demon but the Gods always say shit like "mankind need to be led on the right path" "we had a favorable relationship with mankind"

bruh it's one city. the King doesn't rule the planet

>>158901012
>bruh it's one city. the King doesn't rule the planet
It's the capital of human kind. So he kind of sort of does.

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>>158900719
It's anime Hearthstone. But it isn't dogshit like Hearthstone, and it's actually really generous towards free to play players and new players alike.

I mean the game still has its own share of problems. But the pull rates for the cards are very favourable, and the upkeep for the game is really simple so it just keeps pouring new resources onto you that you can use to gain new cards.

How long was Favaro imprisioned? Why does nobody know he's the Bahamut killer?

>>158892333
yeah I just noticed the pegleg this episode too

>>158901725
Favaro is a known scoundrel, do you think anyone would believe him if he claimed it was him.

>>158901797
Why wouldn't Favaro or Jeanne accurately say what happened? They would include him

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>>158890752
We already got them.

>>158900651
No it fucking doesn't

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I want to cum inside Nina.

>>158901993
Why all of they look the same?

>>158902224
Gabriel basically spawned an army overnight according to her taste.

>>158901867
Most of the continent was destroyed and everything was a mess, i don't think people would honestly care who killed it, the main thing they wanted to do was rebuild which is what the king did. Jeanne probably didn't even have the chance to properly explain what happened before she was exiled/imprisoned.

>>158902342
I think that would be the biggest hugest thing in the world after that though, and Favaro would use it for women

>>158902371
True, but a lot can happen in 10 years, who knows what happened in all those years.

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>>158901993
>implying they got anything on based diablo angels

>>158892476
muh DICK

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>>158902674
These guys are true warriors who'll send any white boy flying in no time without even trying.

>>158892476
>satou locked azazel away so he could fap to this
I understand him.

>>158894735
Gabriel is misguided and has no idea how to handle the situation. She could easily win people's faith back if she handed out a few miracles. And she's definitely wrong for using Mugaro like that. Cheerios on the other hand? Cheerios is on a whole different level and even though the writers are being very carefull not to go full out mustache twirling evil villain with him, by always having someone else do the evil thing in his stead and him always only standing for his ideals, his rule definitely led to terrible and downright evil shit and he's guilty of that by association. He, just like Gabriel is completely devoid of empathy but Gabriel didn't go to such extremes as he did yet.

>>158902342
>the main thing they wanted to do was rebuild which is what the king did.
>king is going to ruin everything he rebuilt in his quest for absolute power
It always ends this way.

>>158904959
>She could easily win people's faith back if she handed out a few miracles
As if. The king has been giving them tons of miracles and they couldn't care less about Gabriel's party tricks anymore.

>>158905178
Go be a fanboy somewhere else. The only thing king has given them was free slave labour and protection so people could go on about their business undisturbed and prosper. Gods can bestow rich yield, grant babies to people who couldn't have them, restore health of people who lost it and so on. Things Charioce's regime could never do with just their forbidden magic.

>>158904959
How the fuck is Gabriel misguided? She is just as scummy, hell even more scummy than Cheerios in her vein attempt to get everything under her control again being the third choice of heavenly ruler after Zeus and Michael. In Genesis she was a cunt, she didn't want to help humankind out, she didn't even want to help the chosen saint out and look where that got her. All she ever does is make demands believing she is superior and has the upper hand. She sat on her ass while mankind took power into their own hands, she only acted when she had a trump card. Jeanne had to suffer for years, Gabriel did not give a single fuck until her weapon had a connection to her that would allow Gabriel even more sway over El. Gabriel isn't just or divine, if she was either, she would have stood up with the demons to put Cheerios down before he got this bad, the demons helped sealed Bahamut as well and deserve help but nope she gives no fucks. Hell she didn't even need to start this war, the angels and shit were fine in heaven, they weren't getting shit in their wonderland. They came down to demand humans kiss Gabriel's ass or else they will fuck people up. Gabriel and the gods could just easily abandon mankind but nope Gabriel needs to go the extra mile and make sure mankind kisses her ass and makes status of her standing on folks' backs.

>>158905448
>Gabriel scummier than Charioce
>when charioce is a slaver, tormenter, usurpator, multiple murderer, exploter, a thief, a trynant, "I'll killem all" and so on
Bitch please. Check your sense of proportion.

>>158905401
>Gods can bestow rich yield, grant babies to people who couldn't have them, restore health of people who lost it and so on
So, things that just occur normally? Some miracles you have there, mate.

Meanwhile the king fucks up the demons like it's nothing, something that the gods haven't been able to do despite trying since time immemorial.

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>there are people here who doubted the king Charioce XVII "the based"

>>158906024
How much exactly does Charioce have to get his shit pushed in before people will admit he messed up?

The capital has practically already fallen. The people have already suffered because of him. And their homes are already in ruin.

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>>158906086
A city can be rebuilt

>>158906086
>"CHARIOCE IS FINISHED!" says increasingly nervous man for seventh time this month

>>158905768
>this delusion
Yeah, Cheerios is totally gonna cure a person dying from an incurable disease or cure irreverible infertility when this doesn't even happen with our supposedly advanced medicine all that often. Gods could win humanity little by little by assisting in the little things that Cheerios' Onyx goons cannot fix. And don't forget, the flourishing and prosperita doesn't reach the outskirts of the kingdom, work is mostly available in the capitol. Angels could easily manifest to the people from outside of the gates whom Cheerios doesn't care about and win their reverence with simple things. They just don't because Gabriel is a dumbass.

>>158906187
He'll be able to do all that once he has crushed the so called gods and taken their power.

I'm glad humans got their shit pushed in at least once. Until latest episode it seemed Charioce was succeeding just because his enemies were fucking idiots. It's still a shame that demon's ambush ended in such fiasco. I wish Charioce would struggle more, but no, for some reason every single person opposing Charioce is incompetent.

Looking forward to the king btfoing Gabriel next week. She really deserves some ass whooping.

>>158906086
Some of the people in his kingdom don't like him already. He's alienating his own people with his anti-gods agenda. With his victory over the angels he'll feel at ease to repress the few religious ones left with no remorse. But that will only bring him closer to some of the earthly regimes and the way they deal with "ideologically incorrect" individuals.

>>158906163
Yeah. But having to rebuild it in the first place is a pretty damn huge loss. And I doubt Charioce would pay for and replace everything the people lost.

And again. For what purpose? The people just lost here.
A bunch of them are dead. Their homes are ruined and tons of their goods are probably lost forever. It sucks all around.

>>158906187
Something tells me Gabby is just way too proud. By doing what you said she literally admits she needs to compete with a mere human for the influence over humanity. A show of power like that works better since you also teach humans it's stupid idea to cross that one line.

>>158906347
Nice delusion mate. It's impossible to steal power from a being who's inherently imbued with it. It's like trying to steal someone's artistic talent. The only thing Cheerios was able to steal from the gods were some magic artifacts.

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>>158906418
Dude the athenians destroyed the persians at Salamis after getting their city sacked. Shit happens a lot.

>For what purpose?
Pushing angels' shit back in, if not forever, for a good while

>Their homes are ruined and tons of their goods are probably lost forever
Yeah no shit, that's what happens when your city is attacked. When Suliman attacked Malta, everyone thought they'd last 3 weeks, and they lasted 3 months.

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Next episode title makes reference to Hemingway

>>158906558
He'll use his knights to turn Gabriel into an artifact and wear her around his neck, yielding him all the powers of the eternal absentee gods.

>>158906751
someone is going to literally lose their arm

>>158906751
Kaisar loses his other arm

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>>158906751
>tfw Charioce loses an arm killing that angel bitch and gets a metal one
And here I thought he couldn't get any cooler

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So Cheerios had a hidden death star. Should've known.

>>158906550
Honestly I feel like this whole discussion is moot because we don't even know what a model relationship between gods and humans would look like, how much the gods are able to do for mankind and what for the godkin needs humanity exactly. A little bit more detail would help a lot.

>>158906609
>Pushing angels' shit back in, if not forever, for a good while
And what is gained from this?
>Yeah no shit
Exactly.

In this battle Anatae is under attack. And Anatae and its people have already / are already taking losses.
What exactly is being "won" here for Anatae and humanity? At this point it's more a battle of preventing even further losses.
Even if Charioce was to push back the angels. Even if he was to manage to outright slay Gabriel. What would have been "won"? There is nothing for Anatae or humans in general to be gained here.

>>158890517
Seriously. I feel like humafags are bipolar or something
>HUMANS WERE DEPENDANT ON THE ANGELS FOR TOO LONG
>GIB MORE HELP FAGGOT USELESS ANGELS

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>>158907127
>preventing an ennemy from taking your city is not winning
Kek what kind of logic is that ? Even if you're weakened, if the ennemy gets crushed against your walls, he won't try again for a while. How is that not winning ? Humanity's dominance and security will be assured for years to come

>>158906968
>we don't even know what a model relationship between gods and humans would look like
I think that would involve Gabriel obediently spreading her legs to his majesty Charioce XVII.

>>158907198
What is so difficult for you to understand exactly? Charioce doesn't want other races to have influence over humanity, be it demonkind or godkind. Do you need to be reminded that it was unthinkable for the nobles to take the throne without the approval of heavens until Charioce came and took it?

>>158906868
Charioce vs Gabriel sword duel would be very satisfying.

>>158907229
>Kek what kind of logic is that ?
Charioce is the reason for why they're even attacking to begin with. It could have been easily avoided.
But my point is really that humanity aren't gaining anything from this. It's not as if they are going to counter, go on the offensive, and conquer the capitals of the heavens and acquire their riches for themselves or anything. It's pointless.

You speak of dominance and security. And yet Charioce is the reason for why they were attacked at all. If they had done as the people begged him to do, The capital would have remained unharmed.

If anyone is "winning" here, it's not the humans. Nor the angels. But the demons. Due to how their oppressors are busy killing each other.

>>158907515
I'm not talking about Chorioce. I'm talking about shitposting humanfags who in their 'arguments' can't decide if the angels should do everything humans want them to or if the angels should fuck off because fuck yeah humanity.

>>158907630
>It's not as if they are going to counter, go on the offensive, and conquer the capitals of the heavens and acquire their riches for themselves or anything. It's pointless.
I'm pretty sure demons thought the same about their realms.

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>>158907573
Fuck yeah it would. We'd finally get to see some serious Cheerios action

>>158907630
>It could have been easily avoided
Yes, by getting conquered or/and put to submission. Seems like you don't get what being a ruler is about

>humanity aren't gaining anything from this
They're getting away with all the shit they've been doing until now. Cheerios can keep stealing gods' shit and destroy temples without them being able to retaliate

>It's not as if they are going to counter
They don't need to anyway

>they had done as the people begged him to do
A part of the people*

>demons are winning
Demons are over

>>158907630
>But my point is really that humanity aren't gaining anything from this.
The get to keep power they took from gods and receive an opportunity to get even more of it.

>>158907515
>Charioce doesn't want other races to have influence over humanity

Not him but that's big talk coming from a dude who has enslaved the demons and who started a war of aggression against the Gods.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to govern yourself. Defeating the demons and showing them that you're not their playthings is great. Enslaving them and starting a war against the non-aggressive Gods is stupid as fuck.

Humanity has lost any sense of moral high ground they once had. They're no better than the demons from Genesis.

>>158907933
>you can only have moral high ground if you're at the bottom getting fucked over
Christianity was a mistake

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>>158894459
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13274249
>That one weirdo who voted Bahamut.

So he is still alive.

>>158894459
>Nina, Kaisar, etc ("lets compromise") 3 Votes
>14%
I am disappointed in /a/.

>>158907933
>Not him but that's big talk coming from a dude who has enslaved the demons and who started a war of aggression against the Gods.
And it in no way excludes what I said. He's ending demonic and divine influence by putting it under humanity's influence. I'm not going to defend anyone's actions here.

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>>158906181

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>>158908002
He'd be a pretty shit mastermind if he didn't come back at least once.

>>158907821
I wonder if any of you would bitch about being on top and conquering everything if humanity was getting their prayers answered and getting everything it wants from the gods.

>>158908509
Of course not. If the gods did their work Charioce'd have no reason to act as he does

>>158908561
>did their work
Kek. Look at this self entitled little bitch. Should have expected that human mentality basically boils down to
>big daddy needs to give me everything I want
>if not then kill the big daddy
I still wonder what for gods even need humanity anyway. They're still strong enough to push everyone's shit in so that 'prayers = power' thing isn't very evident in here.

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>>158908812
>Look at this self entitled little bitch
Humanity is nothing but endless want

>they're still strong enough to push everyone's shit in
Oh yeah ?

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>The splendid man wielded his flaming sword, slashing with abandon as he challenged the Wyrm of Creation. Subjugating the angels who would whisper to demons, Marduk shook the realms of heaven and earth. A new dawn would rise for mankind. A new legend would ring throughout the lands.
Marduk is the answer to everything Charioce wants to achive. The preview also contains a massive humanoid being so he might fit.

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>>158906024
>When everything was just part of the plan
ALL HAIL KING CHARIOCE

Kill them all. Ningens don't deserve to live.

>>158908865
Yes yeah. Their mook army was still strong enough to destroy Cheerios army. I guess angels are just not evil enough to unleash a WMD on the human's asses.

>>158908812
>We will give you some means to fight against demons if you keep praying to us. Also your ruler needs to be approved by us.
>Well, okay, sounds fair.
2000+ years later
>Hey, what you were giving us is too little. We want to become stronger but without having to depend on your help.
>Nope, our deal is clear, we've got no reason to give you too much power.
>Fine, we will take it ourselves then.

There is no self-entitlement here. Humans and gods were bound by a contract. If one of the sides is dissatisfied with the other, the contract can be nullified.

>>158908122
>t. radical centrist aka everyone's doormat

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>>158909222
>I guess angels are just not evil
They probably would if they could. Too bad Charioce was quicker

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Friendly reminder manmade weapon fueled by forbidden magic is going to btfo divine spaceship next week.

This will be the beginning of a new era for all races.

>>158909230
That's a nice headcanon and all but where is the indisputable proof in the story? Can you 100% prove that the king approval was something that came from the gods and not humans? Did we ever get some backdrop on the supposed contract and if it even exists? No, we never have. All the information about god and human relationship we have is very vague and only hinted at at the plot's convenience. So everything you can make out of is just supposition and not indsputable fact. I just don't see any good and supported in the story reason why gods would need humanity at all. Humans weren't even necessary in the Bahamut event from 2000 years ago.

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>>158909484
The prophecy was real

>>158909484
It's all right, Gabriel will just raise another host of mighty black men and come back.

>>158909484
Humans are too stupid and inferior to make something like that. It's stolen (faulty) godtech.

1. Don't piss off demons.
They'll just start killing more people in retaliation.
2. Don't piss of the gods.
Their assistance is useful and getting on their wrong side over nothing is silly.

3. Don't piss off demons to the extent that they'll want to extinct mankind.
Should be self explanatory. Just try to lay low when around demons. Nothing to be gained from needless antagonizing.
4. Don't piss off the gods so much so that they not only revoke their blessings, but start to attack and kill humans instead.
Should also be explanatory. Literally why turn something good into something bad?

Humanity are trapped in between. Why wage wars against heaven and hell?

>>158909522
You are so fucking boring, man.

>>158909593
>better live as an obedient slave who's afraid of everything than not living at all
Open the mouth so I can piss inside

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>>158909484

Cheerios wants to build the world that's "fit for humanity" but he's not taking into consideration that the world may not even be designed for humanity. I'm pretty sure gods and demons existed eons before humans came along. So really, why should that world even be suited for humanity.

>>158909593

This.

Even the worst peace is better than the best war.

>>158909692
>obedient slave
Why are you people so afraid of theism?
In what way does honouring heaven make humanity "slaves"?

>>158909762
It literally doesn't matter.

HUMANS! HUMANS! HUMANS!

>>158909762
Even if the world is not suited for humans, it doesn't mean they can't make it to be

>>158909791
Why should humans honore heaven ?

>>158909587
>godtech
All we know is that it's considered taboo. It can be divine, demonic or even something entirely else, seeing that it works against both angels and demons, but wasn't shown to work against humans.

>>158909853
>Why should humans honore heaven ?
Because heaven have been good towards humans and provided blessings, protection, and occasionally even explicit power.

What's so bad about it? There isn't even any demands forcing anyone to honour them. It's optional and yet it still comes with potential benefits.

>>158909962
>There isn't even any demands forcing anyone to honour them
And yet the very heaven are raiding the capital right now. You're naive if you think that the very basis of religions and gods is anything else but a greedy need for worship

>>158909522
Don't treat the word "contract" literally. As you said, it wasn't explained why gods want to be revered by humans, but it was established that they do care about it. And since Gabriel herself said humans and gods had good relations in the past, they must have been built on mutual partnership. It's also obvious gods wouldn't want humans to become too powerful, since they wouldn't need to revere and depend on them for protection.

>>158910085
>And yet the very heaven are raiding the capital right now.
And whose fault is that? Charioce attacked their shrines and temples, killed their kin. And stole forbidden artefacts from them.
Without that I can't see them attacking Anatae. Not even if none of them were worshipping them.

>>158910228
>Not even if none of them were worshipping them
Sooner or later they'd ask humans to do it. That's in the nature of gods to be worshipped after all

>>158909853
Unless they kill Bahamut it literally cannot be made into one. Earth is Bahamut's domain so humans are eternally fucked.

>>158910228
I doubt gods wouldn't intervene. And without stolen power it would be even easier for them to dispose of Charioce.

>>158909692
>would take a load from Cheerios right into mouth pussy
Looks who's talking.

>>158909861
>but wasn't shown to work against humans.
Because humans are the ones using it dawg.

You people have the exact same arguments every single fucking thread.

>>158910085
>And yet the very heaven are raiding the capital right now.
Stop twisting the trugh you fag. They're attacking because Cheerios is fucking them up with their stolen shit and is making plans for grand heaven genocide. If you have no proof they would have attacked otherwise then you're just flame baiting and you need to fuck off.

>>158910085
They're just unlucky that the surviving one of the four great angels in S1 was the most insane.

>>158910315
>>158910377
I mean. If Charioce hadn't started killing them or claimed any forbidden powers. Why would they intervene?

At worst they'd send someone like Jeanne to promote their win over the unfaithful. But it's not like they'd blast the city to ruins and kill its citizens.

>>158910315
Where did the gods touched you anon?

>>158910638
>it's not like they'd blast the city to ruins and kill its citizens.
Ever read the bible ?

Cheerios is a fucking troglodite who can only communicate through violence. He's in position and power to negotiate but he's too thick headed to do anything about other than wage wars. I'm amazed people see him as anything else but.

>>158910704
>bringing the bible into it
Kek. Anyway, we're explicitly shown the the angels in Bahamut have completely different personalities from the meddling assholes in the bible so there.

>>158910846
Angel bitch is not a meddling asshole maybe ?

>>158910773
Charioce is thick-headed but Gabriel is no better. There is no room for negotiations if Charioce wants to fulfill his wish.

Reminder the protestors are manipulated by god psyops using the spies they had implanted in human society in order to disrupt the kingdom and weaken humanity in preparation for the invasion. Anyone could be a kamisamanist agent so report any suspicious activity to the authorities.

Reminder that Gabu will win

>>158911171
She will win a trip to Charioce's rape dungeon.

>>158911007
Will the saint fall again?

>>158911007
You know if Mugaro plays matchmaker between Saza and Jeanne, I wouldn't be too upset.

As long as Michael doesn't show up, the lazy fuck.

I have not watched previous series. Any chances awakened Michael will pick a human side?

>>158907988
Where in my post did I say or imply that?

I defended humanity's right to defend itself and it's right to distance itself from the Gods so they can stand on their own two feet. Those are perfectly acceptable things for anyone to do and doesn't mean you're getting fucked over.

>>158911788
No, if Michael comes back he will unite all races in peace with his sheer bishiness.

What power exactly did the king use to beat the demons?

Why is El so OP? I don't remember Michael being this strong in Genesis. Is El's being born from a human some sort of failsafe against the forbidden techno-magic?

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>there is now a sufficient base of hatred for stupid, sexy Gabriel

I have done my job, continue hate the bitch until she is turned into a dirty, divine toilet.

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That's a fucking slick spaceship design.

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>>158914449
Really love that magic membrane in the middle.

>>158914449
>>158914544
Looks like Gabriel's anus, next ep will show us Gabriel's ruined and stretched anus after humans fuck it with Cthulhu magic tech.

So what happened with the guards and prisoners in the dungeon? Are they all kill?

>>158914891
Fuel for the lotus eater machine.

>>158912552
Probably. Otherwise, why would Michael randomly decide to impregnate Jeanne out of nowhere?

>>158915221
Jeanne was his waifu, he managed to gather enough strength from beyond the grave to impregnate at that moment and took it.

>>158911007
Kaisar and Jeanne honestly has a better chance of happening that these two. Both of them already have good chemistry and a good relationship. On the other hand the last time Jeanne and Azazel interacted, she BTFO'd him with holy power.

>>158915875
>triggered Kaisar/Jeanne shipperfag
kek

>>158915980
>triggered
Don't use buzzwords to hide how retarded you are anon, it just makes it worse.

>>158906751
...There are two dudes mounting the dragon?

>>158916125
Deep breaths, deep breaths.

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>king murder leaves Nina for dead in the dungeon
>she's still getting wet for him after all he did

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I wonder if there's anything important happening out there

...

Nah

>>158918109
Bitches be crazy. It becomes even worse when you consider that given the time frame he likely had no intention of evacuating the prisoners and left them to die.

>>158919404
So much for the "cheerios is going to be irredeemable for Nina when she finds out he wanted to kill Mugaro."

>>158901635
>isn't dogshit like Hearthstone, and it's actually really generous towards free to play players and new players alike.
So it's anime Gwent?

>>158911007
Kamen Rider pose?

>>158906751
Literally who

Was that Daoko doing the Baha Baha Soul?

>>158919234

Lucy knows that that book ain't gonna read itself.

>>158919743

She doesn't even know that yet.

>>158922027
She does though. Jeanne told her her whole story which convinced Nina that El is Mugaro.

>>158907127
Use angel slaves to rebuild city.

>>158919743
But there is nothing to redeem. Cheerios literally did nothing wrong.

Someone explain to me what the ball-thing at the end of the episode is.

>>158924375
They used greenscreen and cgi to get my nuts into this anime

>>158924331
Commented, rated and shared.

>>158924357
Cheerios a shit.

>>158920673
Except Gwent is unbalanced piece of shit.

>tfw Lucy is still MIA

>>158925159
Lucy self imploded out of shame for the last time he failed to stop Bahamut and became a black plot hole.

>>158925159
>>158925218

Pretty sure he's just doing some reading

>>158925159
Which would be the worst outcome for Lucy? Since we already got Cerb's brothel.

>>158891571
>>158891625
You guys have got it wrong, all the females in heaven are white, while all the males are black.

>>158925644
Being killed off screen imo. Like Cheerios making some random statement about killing the demon king at that time.

>>158901012
It's the only notable human civilization left after Bahamut's rampage.

>>158908122
I'd tell fencesitters like you to go shove a pole up your ass, but you've already done that with the fencepost.

>>158889561
The series preview shows Cheerios's weird green lined emo ball turning into a giant hand and shooting a death star laser.

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So where's DAO and the other demons who aren't jobbers?

>>158926363
Written off for plot convenience.

>>158926363
Killed off-screen by Charoice's magnificent dick

I remember almost nothing about the first series despite really liking it. Someone brought up Amira in a thread once and I had to look up who she was and then I remembered the whole show revolved around her.

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>>158926872
Amira is looking for her mom, curses Favaro into a demon to get his help. Kaisar follows them because he wants revenge on Favaro for ruining his family. Humanity fights demons.
Rita is a necromancer then a zombie.
Demons want Amira.
Azazel reveals he is the real responsible of everything bad on Favaro and Kaisars lifes, they tell him to fuck off and he does.
They reach the place where Amira mom supposedly is, but its a trap. Amira is the key to release Bahamut. Beelzebuth releases Bahamut, and if the dragon doesnt obey, he will lock him again. Bahamut doesnt give a shit and nukes. Lucifer doesnt give a shit either. Jeanne second in command is revealed to be Bahamutverse Joker. He also corrupts Jeanne and makes her kill many angels but who gives a shit too.
Bahamut wrecks shit. Favaro and Kaisar defeat joker general guy. Amira dies sealing Bahamut again. The end.

Something like that, i dont really remember what was the whole deal with Amira mom and why did the bad guy make them walk all that instead of just taking Amira to that place by himself given that she trusted him.

>>158902674

New to this series

Is this the closest we're getting to Diablo the Anime?

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I fukken love her so much it hurts bros.

>>158926363
The Show Canon =/ Game Canon

Or the Cheerios would've simply got the Human Knight (MC) from Bahamut Game and used them to btfo everybody except Lucifer and Bahamut.

Is this going to be 13 episodes like Genesis or longer?

>>158927773
Longer.

So when do you think Shadowverse will get it's own anime? 2020?

Where is Lucifer
Did he die offscreen?
We was the biggest baddest faggot in the underworld but he hasn't been mentioned at all since Bahamut

>>158928709
Unlike Gabriel, he doesn't need his angel pussy licked constantly.

>>158928486
Never, unless they go with anime-original story like RoB did.

>Give humanity magic
>Constantly give humans weapons
>Their human champion kills top tier gods, because the retarded human king fell into the ploy of a madman alchemist's (also human) doomsday plan
>They don't even mention the fact, let alone retaliate
>Sacrifice their god king and endless amount of their top ranks TWICE to stop Bahamut
>WTF WHY DON'T THE GODS HELP
All the Cheerios shitposters are secondaries getting involved just to LARP or insert their real life political views into a setting (aka the Skyrim debate).

>>158929332
>Be prissy bitch because people aren't kissing your ass
>give one human a weapon
>The human champion you refused to help, even though your highest tier top motherfucker says maybe we should do something you call trash
>Only one city is protected, not even by you but you still try to take credit for it
>WHY THE FUCK AREN'T HUMANS WORSHIPING ME, GABRIEL-SAMA!
All the Gabriel shitposters are speedwatchers swayed by angelic pussy or go to church every single day in real life so they are unconditional god fearing lunatics.

>>158929446
>One weapon
You do realize the world's timeline didn't start in the first anime, right? Like, there are events that happened that weren't on screen, right? You can comprehend such concepts I take it. You also do realize this "didn't help Jeanne" bullshit argument doesn't fly, when the fucking retards who wanted to burn her over petty shit were human rulers. Not to mention THEM BEING FUCKING BUSY CONTAINING THE BIG FUCKING DRAGON THAT WANTS TO DESTROY THE WHOLE WORLD. You know, Rage of BAHAMUT and all? Rings a bell? Jesus fuck you LARPers are insufferable. Just go back to shitposting in W40k threads or something.

>>158929446
>>Be prissy bitch because people aren't kissing your ass
As opposed to Cheerios being a salty bitch because gods aren't kissing HIS ass?
>>The human champion you refused to help
Nobody refused help, Angels were busy elsewhere and who on earth could have foresee that Jeanne would be getting freaking burried at the stake.
>>Only one city is protected, not even by you but you still try to take credit for it
Gabs never claimed she was to thank for anything and she always refers to the gods as collective.

Weak ass retort shitposter-kun.

>>158929518
I can guarantee in the entire history of humankind for RoB history that Gabriel has never once given humanity shit. The help Jeanne argument does fly because it literally would have took Michael a minute to go down and tell everyone to stop being a shit for none of the angel killing to even happen. All Gabriel had to do was hold Michael part of the barrier for a minute but nope she doesn't even really want to hold the fucking barrier for any time. They weren't busy when they had time to fuck about and give out weapons and shit. Michael sure thought he had time to help Jeanne but Gabriel is a brocon as well as a cunt.

>>158929518
Not that anon but the reason I support Charioce over the angels is simple pragmatism. Before the angels were helping humans by giving a very small number of saints divine powers to fight the demons but the demons still attacked major settlements every week anyway. Charioce comes and steals the forbidden magic and suddenly humans are on top and demons have been reduced to brothel whores and slaves. This tells me that heaven basically had the power to get rid of demons as a threat for humans but didn't for some reason, most likely because they didn't want humans getting too strong or wanted to keep them dependent on heaven. Charioce made the world safer and more prosperous for humans than what angels did in 1000s of years. If stealing shit from heaven from heaven is the price they needed to pay for that then I'd say it's worth it,

>>158929563
>As opposed to Cheerios being a salty bitch because gods aren't kissing HIS ass?
You mean taking matters into his own hand when Gabriel-sama taught him to fuck off and let humanity get demon raped.

>Nobody refused help, Angels were busy elsewhere and who on earth could have foresee that Jeanne would be getting freaking burried at the stake.
Michael shows concern and thinks he should go down but Gabriel is busy not holding the fucking barrier and fingering herself to being superior to humans for her to let him do a thing for a minute.

>Gabs never claimed she was to thank for anything and she always refers to the gods as collective.
Gabriel goes on rants about how the gods deserve to be worshiped and how humans don't know their place, big talk for a fat ass not doing shit but expects all the benefits.

>>158895809

It's essentially the final battle for humans. After the gods are down, there's no one left to fight. World domination. Sacrificing the capital is acceptable.

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New Twin heads chapter is out.
>https://cycomi.com/viewer.php?chapter_id=2829&param=other

Download here >https://mega.nz/#F!5Io3jQrC!XSN4WXhhfOZbXHDF95k7hw

>>158929595
>I can guarantee in the entire history of humankind for RoB history that Gabriel has never once given humanity shit.
Which doesn't matter, because Gabriel wasn't even second in command for that long, let alone leader. Zeus, Odin, and Lucifer are all higher in the chain of command than her.The period of time she was in charge is minuscule. Also, I don't see awful leadership dissuading any of the Chaorice LARPers from supporting a faction, quite the opposite, they seem to be all for it as long as it's Charoice.

>>158929678
>most likely because they didn't want humans getting too strong or wanted to keep them dependent on heaven
That's some really nice headcanon friend. But, we have actual facts as to why they didn't. They call it the forbidden power for a reason. What it might be? Well we'll know soon enough. But, of course the inevitable "b-but how was my husbando supposed to know! His intentions are all that matter!" will soon follow once the reveal makes him look like shit.

>>158929802
You keep saying Charioce is a terrible leader. It it's an objective fact that he accomplished what 1000s of years of heaven working with divine dicksuckers couldn't, actually getting rid of the the organized demon threat to humanity. Now they're a bunch of slaves and a small amount of guerilla fighters that got easily BTFO. Charioce has been the best thing that happened to humanity since antiquity.

>>158929802
You seem to think I am pro-Cheerios and not just anti-Gabriel. People support Charoice because so far his method gets shit done. Demons are the victims and angels aren't overwhelming, humans now have the power to stand on their own two feet and not take an ass fucking from demons or gods.

>>158929896
Short term gain isn't worth shit if you can't maintain it. The fucking writing is simple enough for a child to see Charioce is going to get his. I actually would rather seem him win and achieve the LARP fags wet dreams rather than what we're actually going to get, which is a fucking redemption bullshit story just so Nina can get her boy toy.

>>158929678
>most likely because they didn't want humans getting too strong or wanted to keep them dependent on heaven
Or maybe because of what actually happened: the moment humans became strong they decided it's time to murder all the angels. If you're capable of comprehending events currently occurring then there shouldn't be any doubts regarding the angel logic on this one.

>>158930090
That never happened. Hell the angels were the safest in the new world order. They had safe heaven in literal heaven and were not bothered. Demons got the shit end of the stick, their leader is a lazy faggot who probably closed off Hell to read Harry Potter or some shit in peace.

>>158927115
Nah. Diablo is about a murderhobo/group of murderhobos murderhobbing through hell and heaven.

>>158930145
How the fuck do you think Charioce stole the green shit from the gods? Heaven is no more inaccessible than hell.

>>158930145
>That never happened.
Except it did you speedwatcher. Did tyou miss all the conversations between Charioce and Jeanne? And his talk to Azazel in the torture dungeon? "I'll kill all angels" has to be his catchphrase by now. He was planning a large scale invasion on the angel capitol for a while now and that's why he wanted Jeanne's complicity.

>>158930010
Of course. Most Chariocefags aren't completely delusional he we know he's gonna get BTFO eventually simply because he's the story's designated antagonist. We simply reject the narrative that he did anything wrong or that he's evil. Humanity was at war for millennia and Charioce ended the war in a human victory. Charioce did better than any of his God worshipping ancestors so anyone who cares about human's wellbeing should support him. He knows what he's doing.

>>158930010
>a fucking redemption bullshit
The only redemption cheerios is going to get is redemption through death. I doubt they're going to Gary Stu him to the point of BTFOing everybody and getting a happy end.

>tfw you realize why Cheerios is winning because he isn't that smart, it's angels and demons are that fucking dumb as fuck

>>158889833
Its exactly that. The show is meant for American anime pirates and American culture. This is meant to show that Favaro is an American with the fetish for buttsex. Sorta like self-insert for the average American.

When did /pol/ rretards invade Bahamut threads?

>>158930715
>/pol/
where?

>>158889561

Is that Cheerio's ball getting sliced up on the left?

>>158930715
It's just /tg/ retards roleplaying.

>>158920859
Hitlergruß

>>158924716
It's in open beta, the balance changes every two weeks or so.

Looks like Mugaro is in direct line of fire. It could either kill him or break Gab's brainwashing.

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>Favaros missing leg
>Kaisars missing arm

You feel it too dont you

>>158932481

Where have they put up the preview for Ep 13? I can't find it on https://shingekinobahamut-virginsoul.jp

>>158932637
Try cygames youtube.

>I was 20 steps ahead of you from the start
I honestly hate these kind of villains. It kind of reminds me of Gilles from Season 1. So many things had to happen that would have been impossible to predict and could have gone wrong.

>>158930259
>Charioce did better
>and that's why everyone wants to kill humans more than ever now
Thanks Charioce! This is so much better!

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Nendoroid when?

>>158930259
>so anyone who cares about human's wellbeing should support him
>literally kills hundreds of people in a prison for basically nothing

>>158933056
Not even acrylic keychains, just fucking stickers. Why cygames.

>>158932877
Dude, all his steps are
>let's get the ancient-tech beatstick
>use this beatstick to btfo everyone
>develop even bigger beatstick in case some bigger thing shows up

His plans are simple as hell, and don't rely on schemes and other stuff

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>>158933689
>IT JUST WORKS !

>>158933689
they rely on asspulls he somehow knows about

>>158933802
What are you even talking about.

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>>158933780
TBF, the best plans are the ones that are least complicated. Charioce's plan relied only on a well-performed assault to grab the first piece of tech. The rest was just smartly using that tech. He used the element of surprise to get the advantage, and both angels and demons, instead of going around it, just decide to brute force against him.
The worst offender being Gabby
>lmao, let's just talk shit to the human king in front of his people and tell him to say sorry and just give everything back
>he's now expecting our army
>attacking right away? nah, let's give him a day to prepare
>just invade through the front door on a giant battleship
>surely it's not a trap
>also let's put the success of our plan on one kid's shoulders

I know that she's not even a third in command, but come the fuck on.

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>>158933996
Gods are cocky and arrogant, as always. Although they quite needed a strong and "fair" victory to assert their legitimacy over humanity. A surprise attack against civilians who'd agree with them would be counter productive.
Too bad that shit completely backfired, kek

>>158934090
I wasn't implying civilians. My point is that they were retarded to not decimate Charioce's forces right away. It would've made for a much better show of power
>gibs us the tech back
>nah
>lmao you're ded

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>>158934152
They should've known arrogance is the most deadly sin

>>158934233
Pride, anon. It's pride, followed closely by wrath.

>>158934152
They wanted loyal faithful civvies to evacuate, which makes sense because heaven isn't looking for a genocide. They just want to bitch slap some uppity ningens.

>>158933780
>we destroy our stands against us
that doesn't work

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>>158934273
Well, that's not how you fight wars, and they're gonna pay for their arrogance, lack of strategy and pride.

>>158934376
No doubt some jerks in heaven said to "talk it out" so they had to at least show some formality.

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I can't watch this anymore. This Jeanne and Mugaro shit is too depressing for me. It's not about the bad guy winning or the despair (I'm a berserk fan). There's suffering and then there's just gratuitous sadism on the writer's part.

>>158934524
It's really not that bad.
>>158934417
The problem is that they failed. They made an arrogant statementm knowing full well that the person they were opposing had the power to rival them. The "No doubt some jerks in heaven said to "talk it out" so they had to at least show some formality." argument doesn't fly, because that's excatly what strong leadership is for in times of war.

>implying this isn't just an elaborate set up so Bahamut can yet again be revived with people frodoing "why didn't the demons and gods just seal him again?"

>>158934702
It probably is. They will revive him through the tech bullshit and main cast has to stop it again. But it was really nice to see a different dynamic in a fantasy show.

>>158929595
>The help Jeanne argument does fly because it literally would have took Michael a minute to go down and tell everyone to stop being a shit for none of the angel killing to even happen
Would it? Been a while since I watched the first anime, but from memory Michael was up there using his power along with all the other archangels to keep Bahamut contained, it was Jeanne-witchified killing them that meant Bahamut had enough to break out. He could go down to give the weapon to Jeanne because Bahamut wasn't as close to freedom then as he was later.

>>158934761
If I was going for left field ending to the plot I'd say Bahamut gets revived and succeeds in actually destroying everything this time, thus completing the cycle and resetting everything.

>>158934524
Jeanne has gotten shit on a lot since Genesis, but I feel she'll have a happy ending. Though I am worried about Mugaro's survival since we know that Gabriel's godship is about to get BTFO'd and he's standing right at the front.

>>158935181
I'm skeptical. Most people point to her Granblue redemption as an example, but people also in Granblue have been straight up murdered in the first and second season.

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>>158935181
>implying relevant characters would die.
The only relevant character that is going to die is Charioce. But even then, they can meme magic him into actually winning and surviving in the end.
>well yeah, guys, he was actually right.
But it's highly unlikely, because that would go against mc's worldview.
>oh wow, you actually HAVE to take sides to get anywhere and not just be the middle bitch? Wtf guys

>>158934702
It's either that or some other world ending threat. There's no way this is turning into some major human circlejerk. Some major threat is going to come around and people are going to set aside their differences and work together to stop said threat.

It's pretty obvious from how how they've portrayed the demon's story and how the MCs are being antagonized by the king that humanity isn't going to continue being a huge bunch of cunts. Which is pretty good for a "let's all get along" fag like myself.

The problem is, while we will get Gabby's spaceship get BTFO next week, Charioce army is already decimated. Does Charioce really hope to make this battle a final one against the gods?

I hope we will get another Gabriel vs Charioce confrontation, doesn't matter which one will be the victorious one.

>>158934355
Just follow the plan, don't question it

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>>158934355
> He can't conquer his own Stand

>>158935457
>>158935508
I have no idea what they would have to pull off to redeem Charioce and let him live. At this point all I can see is that he will either:
>sacrifice himself to defeat a major threat that will (hopefully )soon be revealed
>stay loyal too his ideals and get killed by one of characters (Nina vs Charioce fight would be pretty awesome)
>keikaku his way out and fake his own death, spending rest of his life somewhere far away together with Nina
He just made too many powerful enemies to walk freely at the end of VS.

>>158935508
>>158935656
He IS the major threat. He's killed demons, angels and even humans who refuse to obey him.

>>158935737
No, I think he's the guy who awakens the main baddy. I bet you $10 that the egg thing is the real big bad.

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>>158935737
My cute king can't be the main villain.

>even humans who refuse to obey him
Like who?

>>158935788
That thing was devised by humans until proven otherwise. Charioce might ultimately lose, but his weapon is a proof of humanity's boundless potential. Even after Charioce is removed, relations between all races will never be the same as in the past.

>>158935852
There's no solid proof but based on the conversation between the guards and the citizens following Nina's arrest I imagine that it doesn't take a lot to be arrested considering they'd threaten to do so if you spoke in defense of accused traitors.

>>158935940
In a setting like this I'm certain it's some ancient artifact that Charioce has re purposed to his own end. This screams of a "meddling with things beyond your comprehension" plot device.

>>158936017
>This screams of a "meddling with things beyond your comprehension" plot device.
But that's so boring. I really liked the idea of making both green magic and the weapon having a human origin. Like, it was made thousands of years ago by ancient humans to protect them from supernatural beings like demons and angels. It would also fit with gods narrative of calling it "taboo" and make them less of perfect beings, since it would they actively forbade humans from using it.

> I imagine that it doesn't take a lot to be arrested considering they'd threaten to do so if you spoke in defense of accused traitors.
On the other hand he allows people like Kaisar to stay close to him despite having different opinion and ideals. Generally it seems that as long as you stay loyal to him he doesn't give a fuck about your beliefs.

>>158935940
The thing was created by humans who were messing with godly and/or demon stuff that was stolen.
The only thing it proves is that Humans with too much power are dangerous and should be kept on a leash.

>>158936398
It proves humans can be serious players too if given opportunity.

>>158936500
When they steal things that isn't theirs to begin with, sure.

>>158936533
That's not how conquering works. If you have the power to take it then it belonged in your possession all along.

>>158935656
The problem with that is that he didn't really do anything wrong. He was a guy who wanted to protect humans from both demons and angels. He did that. He did the right thing as a human king. He made humans into a major power and freed them from the opression of demons and control of angel in the process. All to make humans stand up. The fact that some people consider him villian amases me.

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This has got to be one of the most pointless arguments ever. We all know exactly how this is going to end.

>Literally Hitler beats great powers with mcguffin
>Bahamut gets revived somehow
>MC group wins again by the power of friendship

I simply wish that Azazel dies instead of being tortured since there's a greater chance of him ruining this show while being alive.

Did they change writers from season 1? This shit is honestly laughable. We literally had 12 episodes of nothing until now.

Favaro is a hard act to follow.

>>158936846
It's kind of like LWA. The first cour was almost episodic with some world building then it got into the plot in the second cour.

>>158936643
You seem to not notice the fact that the show is trying to tell us there is different way of making humans strong that should be sought, which is cooperation instead of annihilation. Hell, even Charioce is aware of that as he was giving Kaisar this amused look after he confronted him. Charioce's way of doing things works for now, but it's not long term solution unless he reduces all demons and gods to dust or slaves.

>>158936913
The world was built before and the current situation was established in two episodes. 3-10 was Azazel is a retard and Cheerios is Hitler played on an infuriating loop.

>>158936930
Fancy ideals mean nothing when everyone in the factions still wants to kill the other. Chaorice is right that only a show of force will give respect.

>>158936930
Charioce literally attempted cooperation with angels. He asked for the tech, and they told him to fuck off. Angels didn't provide humans with any means of fighting angels after the bahamut incident, and humans neede an edge. So they took it by force and made it their's.

>>158936686
That's most shows though.
Even Game of Thrones which was considered good because anyone could die, has become relatively obvious for who is not dying. If they gave no fucking clues as to who was going to win, it'd just be a Shamalamadingdong tweest every other episode full of asspulls.

>>158936643
>Pushes the demons back and shows them that man isn't going to be their plaything
>Decides to distance man from the gods and have them stand on their own
Fine and dandy. In fact, I'd applaud him for this.

>Enslaves the demons after beating them and basically turns a blind eye or covertly supports brutality towards them

Not only is this morally atrocious but slavery is economically damaging. It stifles innovation, undercuts the working classes and accelerates wealth inequality by driving tremendous wealth towards the slave owners.

>Attacks the Gods
Fucking stupid as fuck. It's like Hitler invading the Soviet Union but worse in that unlike the Soviets the Gods don't have a history of militarism. In the end, Charioce has made a gamble with the lives of his citizens as a wager.

>>158937133
>Chaorice is right that only a show of force will give respect.
Sure, nothing wrong with that when you have the demons (or at least their leadership) being aggressive. However, he's gone way beyond that.

>>158937133
Show of power, yes. But genocide and slavery will get you only hatred instead of respect.

>>158937214
fighting demons after the bahamut incident*
fuck

>>158936833
Poor Azazel's character went down the fucking drain this season.