Fullmetal Alchemist

Brotherhood. Better animation for most of the show, and once it gets out of the rushed first act is much stronger then the bizarre crap 2003 went with, and a better villain.

>>158813478
2003, for purely personal reasons.

I am a pretentious homosexual who is less than the age of 25 and almost certainly a normalfag which is why I think 2003 is better.

2003 - for adults

Brotherhood - for kids

2003

>>158814477
You mean 2003 for chunnishitters.

>>158813478
I've already read the manga and only watched 20 episodes of 2003 a decade ago so the answer is obvious. It's also the first anime I watched online and I remember loving the way the beginning was handled, the mood is great.

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2003 because I want to fuck Dante

>>158813478
Where is the manga option?

>>158813478
2003, Brotherhood is just too lighthearted at the end of the day.

Even Bones thinks 2003 was a mistake.

>>158814692
You can always read the manga, I guess.

>>158814737
>[citation needed]

I prefer the manga villain, donte the OC villain bodyjacker isnt my thing, neither is the "alchemy is powered by the dead from our world wars"

>>158815671
>alchemy powered by dead niggers
Is this better?

Or
>alchemy powered by underground movement

Brotherhood, because I have a modicum of understanding of how narrative fiction is meant to work.

>>158816231
Yeah, 2003 for those with advance understanding of narrative.

2003 is pretentious garbage without substance, the plot went to shit when they stopped following the manga.
Brotherhood is a battle shounen with good writing and characters. I prefer the manga though.

>>158813478
2003 becaues I'm a contrarian faggot

2003 did some things right, but Brotherhood was better overall.

However, the fact that alchemy was powered by the souls of jews the Nazis killed was just priceless. That alone is enough to make you want to watch the movie at least once.

Brotherhoods story was far more coherent and satisfying imo.

2003 had better opening songs.

>>158816727
But 03 took place before the Holocaust.

>>158816871
Did it? I seem to remember the movie had Nazis on the other side of the gate, or was it WWI Germany instead?

I liked 2003 more because it didn't feel so Shounen.

Riza best girl

>>158813478
2003
Anyway Im just gonna say you cant use "better animation" as a reason to like a newer anime over an old one
Because animation MUST be better

>>158816953
It was WW1, then the movies come out and Bradley is a Jew and Rose is a filthy gypsy.

Whichever had more flaws is obviously the inferior adaption and 2003 had a lot more flaws than Brotherhood where the characters are concerned. And about everything else.

>>158815726
>alchemy powered by dead niggers
they alchemy circle gas chamber was only done once anon... every other alchemy was powered by WWII in our dimension

>>158818437
Not really if it also has more achievements which I think is the case with 2003. It may have its flaw but when it comes down to direction, soundtrack, pacing and characters 2003 did it better, being also less cliché and childish.

Brotherhood is highly re-watchable, in comparison, 2003 is a slog after the first time through. I also think Brotherhood is the better show overall, but the aforementioned is the deciding factor.

>>158813673
There are people over the age of 25 who like the generic shounenshit that is Brotherhood?

>>158815574
>*drops mic*
Thanks for proving his point

>>158817247
If only.
Anyways, 2003 had no emotional impact.
>>158818795
Now you're just trolling.
>>158819256
>t. nostalgiafag

>>158816231
lmao

Brotherhood. There is genuinely no argument to be had. People on here will be contrarian just for the sake of feeling special though or to get replies.

>>158820966
>People on here will be contrarian just for the sake of feeling special though or to get replies.
Well, the question is "if you could WATCH only one". I'd read the manga and watch 03 because Brotherhood is a more faithful adaptation.

>>158820642
>2003 had no emotional impact.
Now you're just trolling.

>>158820642
>Anyways, 2003 had no emotional impact.
>Now you're just trolling.
Brotherhood is the one with lack of emotional impact, not only the direction portraits emotional scenes poorly most of the time but it also has less impactful moments because of its lightheadedness.
For example, Hughes' death is pretty forgettable in BH, you barely know the guy and while we know about his relationship with Mustang we didn't get to know him well. 2003 made a big deal of his death, he was a recurring character and a close friend to Ed and Al and when he dies the emptiness he left caries on for the whole series and affects almost all the characters in some way, not only Mustang.
Another example is the scene where the Elrics performed human transmutation, 2003 have meaningful camera angles that gives a clear idea of what is going on and a sense of awe before turning it into a horrific situation, BH made it dull, overemphasizing the horror aspect right away.

2003 had its moments, but the general flow of the series was a mess since it tried to integrate parts of the manga in to a series well past any of those plotpoints. I'm also pissed about the Nazis. Just go throw any sense of subtlety and symbolism out the door and make them literal Nazis, what could go wrong? Everything, that's what. Fuck that ending.

>>158821472
>any sense of subtlety
They already called Bradley a führer. What subtlety was left?

>>158816827
Kill youareself

>>158813673
that's me but i still prefer 2009 since it uses the actual plot. 2003 definitely did the earlier parts of the story better than 2009 though, which is annoying since its existence led 2009 to rush and axe certain scenes and jumble up any chance of a cohesive experience of the actual plot

>>158813478
BROTHERHOOD:
>shonenbabbies

2003:
>starts as shonenbabby
>becomes patrician after it deviates from the manga, this is including the movies.

Literally cannot be proven wrong.

>>158816953

Conqueror of Shambala took place between WWI and WWII, so the 2003 series took place probably at the tail end of the first World War (when Edward went there)..

Matter of fact, CoS timeline was right at the point where Hitler tried to usurp control from the ruling party the first time via a coup de'tat, but failed and got sent to Prison.

Now don't get me wrong, when the Holocaust did occur in our world, the alchemy in Edward's world would have gotten a REAL big boost in strength. But the series itself takes place before that.

Which is one of the reasons why I kinda don't like the ending to the 2003 series. Our world being connected to Edward's world is just weird and does not make a lot of sense.

Conqueror of Ay Caramba

Brotherhood. It had better animation and followed the manga ending which was much better, so it all came to a satisfying conclusion. I'm a sucker for the "everyone comes together for the final battle" thing.

The series in general was very, very good. Not too long and interspersed with huge arcs. It had a story to tell from beginning to end, and it succeeded in it.

>>158813478
Brotherhood really dropped the ball with Bradley
>"Hey gang let's show this guy is a bad guy in the first 20 minutes"
Idiots.Made the scene whre he kills the snake lady totally pointless for the audience

>>158822680
>when the Holocaust did occur in our world, the alchemy in Edward's world would have gotten a REAL big boost in strength

So never?

Didn't Brotherhood use the Naruto voice for the main character?

>>158824388
I'm guessing the answer is no to whatever question you're trying to ask.

>only 20% for the original
Wow

>>158824388
The woman who voices Temari.

Brotherhoods story is more consistent and simply better. It also has an actual conclusion and not a shitty movie. It also had less pointless fillers.

That being said it is built up on 2003's groundwork and you should watch 2003 before Brotherhood anyway.

People who genuinely believe 2003 is better are just nostalgiafags who can't accept the truth.

>>158821467
>Hughes' death is pretty forgettable in BH, you barely know the guy and while we know about his relationship with Mustang we didn't get to know him well.
Doesn't really matter. Viewers who went straight to Brotherhood still felt really bad at Hughes death. If you're 2003fag like yourself, obviously it's far beyond what brotherhood and the manga did but to stay it didn't hold the same impact is complete bs.

>>158826683
> to stay it didn't hold the same impact
It didn't. I was unamused when he died in BH, instead his deat in 2003 almost teared me apart, there was a huge build up to that moment, and as I said, it echoes through the rest of the series. I completely forget about BH's Hughes after a few episodes, he was only important to Mustang and his group, people being pussies and crying for any death doesn't mean it was impactful at all, just like almost every death in BH, even Greed's dead was tarnished by how cliche was his development.

>>158824285
Just don't watch the first episode.

>>158827738
Why they made it if you aren't supossed to watch it?

>>158813478
I've only seen brotherhood. I always assumed that it was worse, because it didn't follow the manga, until I jumped into the Hellsing series and OVA without knowing what either one was and realized that I liked the series more. Should I bother with the 2003 version?

>>158813478
Original. Brotherhood turned FMA into a fucking shounen.

>>158828388
I say yes. 2003 has a lot going for it. While it has less characters than brotherhood, I thought the characters were better developed in 2003, especially the homunculi. I thought the later half where the story deviates from the manga was pretty good too.

>>158813574
>a better villain
>hurr durr i want to eat a guy in the sky
Nah, a human seeking immortality is a better villain, solely because I cam understand them.

>>158828940
They are both shounen.
Brotherhood: shounen for kids.
Original: shounen for adults.

>>158829262
No difference between that and a homonuculs seeking transcendence.

2003=Seinen
Brotherhood=Shonen

I like both for different reasons. Though i'd say Brotherhood had a better ending.

I much preferred Brotherhood's story and characters felt a bit more structured I guess
2003 had some fucking GOAT tier music though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXQLrkW33f0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRVrwJeZlHs

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>>158829416

>>158823987

>Sucker for everyone comes together for the final battle

Pleb.

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>>158820966
>There is genuinely no argument to be had

I can get everything Brotherhood offers but better by watching DBZ.

>>158829355
>shounen for adults
that's not how it works

>>158829262
So if they called Father a human instead of a homunculus, you would like Brotherhood more?
Seeking immortality and seeking godhood are very similar in that they involve casting off the limiting shackles of humanity and rising above our place in the world.

>>158831917
Dante's fear of mortality was just inherently more human than some godlike immortal being who wanted to become even more godlike.

>>158832167
He started off weaker than even humans, feeling powerless was his whole motivation if I remember.

>>158832167
Yeah, if his god like power was in fact limited and he only had it or was even human..ish so long as he stayed in that one place under the city...
Yeah.
Would be all poetic and shit.
That little humunculous who would do anything to get out of that bottle and being free gaining ultimate god like power. But is in fact damned to live eternally in another bottle.

Him trying to gain that ultimate power is his attempt at becoming truly free and gaining his own true personhood. To not fear being devoured by the gate and even becoming it's master.

>>158832337
2003 was mostly character drama. The primary appeal of Brotherhood is that it had more fights.

>>158813478
I haven't seen 2003, but Brotherhood was one of the most boring anime I have ever seen, so I'll pick 2003

>>158832246
>He started off weaker than even humans

Which was centuries after we even see him, after which he was about as human as Sauron from the Lord of the Rings and spent about as much time literally sitting on his throne as the average dark lord.

>>158813478
2003
>Furor is beaten by Mustang after his "son" very conveniently just happens to bring his one weakness into the fucking room at random during their fight

Brotherhood
>Furor goes out like a fucking boss taking on half the fucking military and killing two badasses on his way out before dying with a peaceful fucking smile on his face

Gee wonder which was better....

>>158813673
I'm not pretentious. I'm a heterosexual. I'm 27 years old and have watched more anime than you.
2003 was better

>>158832382
Bad character drama, grimderp shit that took it self waaaay too seriously considering it's live journal fanfic tier writing.

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>>158832561
>posting opinions is bait

Okay then

>>158832587
It's not an opinion if you haven't seen the show. It's an assumption

>>158832535
>fanfic tier
>muh canon

Brotherhood is generic battle shounen that gets far more credit than other generic battle shounen, with better fights, for being faithful to the source material. 2003 provided a solid coming of age story.

>>158813478
I like them both equally but for different reasons.

Recently watched both to make a Mastercut combining both shows. Personally, I find Brotherhood to be the better series.

2003 would have superior character development but Brotherhood had much better story structure overall.

>>158832637
I have seen Brotherhood, it was terrible. I have no idea how good 2003 is, but there's a chance I will like it, as opposed to Brotherhood which I know I hate. Thus, if I can only keep one, I'll obviously pick 2003. Use some logic.

>>158832514
2003 was better to you because it was what you saw first, the story does not hold up well at all when put to scrutiny, sorry. Meanwhile Brotherhood while not perfect is still based on one of the best Shonen ever made, that avoided many of thew tropes associated with fightin shonen.

>MC isn't a functional retard and is actually intelligent and often outwits his enemies

>Female characters aren't completely fucking useless

>MC doesn't get 50 different power ups while his allies go from being competent fighters to glorified jobbers who's only real use is to get their asses kicked or killed to anger the MC enough for his next power up

> they actually get a lot of development for the most part and got their times to shine, was even very useful in the final battle

>furthermore the MC isn't even the most powerful character in the story and doesn't manage to punch out God until the very end just before losing said powers

>even then all the supporting characters helped in greatly weakening said God so it was more of a team effort

>it actually knew when to fucking end

Anyone saying that the fuel for 2003 alchemy being powered by Nazis was dumb doesn't deserve to have an opinion because it wasn't powered by fucking Nazis, and you clearly don't have a proper opinion of the show because you barely remember what the hell happened.

>>158832716
>I rolled a 2 on a D20, there is no way I can roll lower next time.

>>158832736
I liked 2003 because the characters were more imperfect, i.e., they acted more like real people. It also treated the idea of equivalent exchange better. That is to say, it actually respected the idea.

>>158813478
2003 edgefags on suicide watch

>>158832663
Except it wasn't in any way "generic battle shonen" you just didn't like it because Rose didn't get raped because "rape makes you deep" or Lust didn't recite an Emo sounding poem after killing a guy. Also no "lol i'm your long lost brother" shit or Disney tier villain who's whole deal is "muh eternal youth" and gets offed by fucking Gluttony.

Or the fact that it pretty much misses the entire point of "one is all and all is one" which is like the backbone of the whole fucking story.
>can't bring the dead back, except when you bring the fucking dead back by performing transmutations lol

Also GERMANY and proto Nazis. They needed Nazis because the Amestrian military campaign against the Ishvalans wasn't on the nose enough!

Also a homuculous who's throws tantrums and cries for his mom, his name is WRATH! or the one called Sloth that has water based powers

Gee it almost sounds a bit silly don't it?

>>158832789
Like when Rose got raped and becomes a figurehead of a resistance because she got raped...yeah makes sense and seems legit

>>158831917
>So if they called Father a human instead of a homunculus, you would like Brotherhood more?

If Father's reasoning for becoming a god was expanded more he would have been better than Dante. We only ever get a single ounce of real emotion behind his reasoning to become a god, once he's defeated and dragged back into the gate. Before that he was almost just a completely generic asswipe scheming for power. After he got his body, there was almost no reason for him to keep going.

FMA 2003 started out good but then went full on retard after Greed's death and pretty much shows that when it comes to BONES, the show should always be broken into Seasons so the manga can catch up. This way we avoid shit like Courage Punch and lol GERMANY endings

>>158822680
wait, did the power come from only the jews? not the other 50 million people that died?

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>2003

>>158832736
>MC isn't a functional retard and is actually intelligent and often outwits his enemies
MC is the same dude from beginning to end. While with other shonens like YYH or Battle Tendency you may read for the protag Ed is one of the most boring parts of Brotherhood. 2003 Ed has emotional conflict and is forced to question his ideals over the course of the series.

>Female characters aren't completely fucking useless
They're more useless than even Naruto's females.

>furthermore the MC isn't even the most powerful character in the story and doesn't manage to punch out God until the very end just before losing said powers

This is worse not better to the extent that even DBS gets shit on for stuff like the spirit sword.If you need to have power creep progressive power creep is better.

>it ended
At least we can agree on one pro for this schlock.

>>158832989
Courage punch was better than the actual ending to be fair.

>>158832952
>If Father's reasoning for becoming a god was expanded more he would have been better than Dante.

It was expanded on did you not pay attention to the whole "dwarf in the flask" thing? Dante was shit her whole motivation was "i want to snatch bodies so i can stay young" Disney villain shit. Then she goes out like a fucking chump

>>158816871
You know I would love it if someone at Bones told us that alchemy got buffed several times around the 40's.
Would be hilarious as shit.

>>158833029
>2003 Ed has emotional conflict and is forced to question his ideals over the course of the series.

Complete bullshit as Ed has the same motivation in 2003 as in the manga, except he doesn't go to Germany because that would be stupid

>They're more useless than even Naruto's females.

I don't think you watched BH or read the manga

>>158832789
Thinking that the law of equivalent exchange applies to everything, not just alchemy, is not acting like a real person. Even when I watched it back in 2005, I knew how fucking retarded that was.

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When a character feels more like a filler than the actual adaptation.
>pic related

Only people who think 2003 was good were edge deviantart/live journal kids who probably draw edgy Sonic OC's.

2003 FMA was so shit tier even Arakawa made fun of some of it's dumber shit like Sloth water mom. It was popular because it's people's first exposure to it.

Always laugh my ass off when people brag about the shitty "emotional conflicts" really all they did was make Ed and Al dwell on shit for too many episodes and whine, where the manga they get stronger from what they've gone through and more hopeful

>>158833037
only retards and hardcore cronafags have issues with the ending to soul eater

>>158833206
>Yet still managed to be better than 2003's "Wrath" who's claim to fame was crying like a bitch and asking for his mother because WRATH!

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>>158833206
2003fags should NOT be talking about filler characters

>>158833037
this
manga ended terribly

>>158833044
A normal human wanting to live forever is stupid? That's the motivation for a lot of villians in many legit stories.
Hell that's the motivation for many people in real life. That's basically the major reason why alchemy was backed. Immortality and wealth.
It's just like how ancient chinese emperors used to throw money at court magicians and chemists so they can make eternal youth and immortality medicines for them. Or how the currently wealthy spend gobs of money and do very ungood things for this insane goal.

>>158833044
>It was expanded on did you not pay attention to the whole "dwarf in the flask" thing?

Which is why I said once he got his body, there was no reason for him to keep going. His REAL motivation, to reclaim the knowledge he had as the collective, but as an INDIVIDUAL, was only shown after he was defeated making the reveal virtually worthless. For the majority of the series he just wanted to go from being the secret source of all alchemy in Amestris, and having OP powers to being even more OP.

Dante wanting to stay young was only her original goal. By the time the series is happening Dante wants to stop her body from LITERALLY rotting from right under her.

>>158833122
>Complete bullshit as Ed has the same motivation in 2003 as in the manga

No.
>>158831058

>I don't think you watched BH or read the manga

Sakura, Genkai, Urataka. All of them accomplished more than Brotherhood's female characters. One of them even has a rep for being useless.

It's a hard choice. 2003 defiantly had more depth and maturity to it. Brotherhood was a dumb shonen ultimately but still managed to be very enjoyable.

In terms of characters, Brotherhood Bradley is obviously much more well developed though

>>158833273
Holy shit I remember absolutely nothing about this guy, so bravo 2003. You made an standout awful character design that still managed to be completely forgettable..

>>158833029
Are you fucking retarded? Ed grows as a character in BH.

Are you telling me that the Ed at the beginning of the series would even think about sacrificing his ability to use alchemy to bring his brother back?

>Female characters more useless than naruto
Izumi literally took out several soldiers just to deliver a message and then she helps Olivier's group kill Sloth when Olivier and Armstrong almost got killed by him.

Olivier and Hawkeye were great supporting females. Hawkeye for one isn't plagued by stupid like most naruto females and knew when she was being fooled by Envy when he pretended to be Mustang. Olivier and her group essentially fought most of the coup and took out most of the opposition when it came down to it. The only reason it wasn't a total victory was because Bradley came back

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>>158833273
forgot about this holy shit if 2003fags defend this they are delusional

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Wait, wait wait WAIT! Hold on a second here, will you?

Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 version had muh nazis and muh six gorillion jews died to fuel the alchemy?

Why don't I remember any of it? I admit I just watched it once in 2003 and never again after that. I remember liking it quite a lot back then. It was about two brothers who lost their mother and the soul of the little brother was cast into a knight armor and they went on adventures and shit. Fighting some typical for Japshits bible asspulled christian references; in this case the homunculus who represented the seven deadly sins like Gluttony, Lust etc.
I have no recollection of MUH JOOS MUH HOLOHOAX whatsoever.

>>158832167
I don't want to be mean, but do you have autism per say?

>>158833609
it was hinted at
deaths from the other world powes alchemy in theirs

they kind of indirectly say that the holocaust powers alchemy...problem is that more people died and were murdered in russia during that time so there's no reason for them to be in germany at all.

Brotherhood is superior in every way, visually and from a writing perspective.

>>158833709
>>158833722
Never saw Brotherhood. So does it also have MUH EBIL NAZIS MUH HOLOHOAX in it?

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Brotherhood had zero emotional moments so i stay with the 2003 version.
Plus the Chopin soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSG33Ao2Ug

>>158833709
The game takes place between WW1 and WW2, Conquerors of Shambala sets it clearly before Hitler's rise to power. The surge in alchemy is implied to be coming from WW1 then.
I can't remember if Russia had a bloody role in WW1.

Brotherhood was better as a hole but 2003 had a better ending, i liked that what they did had consequences, brotherhood had the generic shounenshit ending

>>158832514
>I'm not pretentious
>have watched more anime than you
You are pretentious, anon.

>>158833776
No, absolutely none of the "real world parallel universe" bullshit is in Brotherhood. The Gate simply holds the Truth, nothing more. It's not a convoluted gateway between Amestris and Nazi Germany.
The only Nazi shit in Brotherhood is just the inherent symbolic parallels, such as the uniforms of the Amestrian army, Bradley's title literally being "Fuhrer", and the militaristic expansion. Nothing direct or literal.

>>158833776
No, Alchemy is from the earth itself.

>>158833709
>russia

There is a country in FMA that resembles Russia, it's called Drachma.
2003 just mentioned it, BH/manga showed us fight between them and Amestris with the soldiers of Drachma as canon fodder for the nationwide transmutation circle.

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>>158833681
If you found Father relatable then you very likely do.

>>158833826
>I can't remember if Russia had a bloody role in WW1.
This is fucking insane.
That's what video games history revisionism with WE WUZ WWI SOULJAS N SHIIIIET and Hollywood's complete dismissal of WWI is doing to people's minds, because no kike extermination happened there. So they can't play the MUH SIX GORILLION fiddle to uphold their eternal victim propaganda.

For the love of god, please educate yourself, unless you are American. Then your lack of knowledge is forgiven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_I)

Result
>Central Powers victory
>Collapse of the Russian Empire leading to the Russian Revolution
>Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (Ukraine), Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (Russia), Treaty of Bucharest

Casualties and losses on Russian side alone
9,347,000:
2,254,369 killed
3,749,000 wounded
3,343,900 captured[

>>158833424
>ed at beginning
>believed in equivalent exchange
>ed at the end
>believed in equivalent exchange

What a deep character.

>Hawkeye for one isn't plagued by stupid like most naruto females
You're right. Naruto females actually take out main villains.

>>158834484
Thanks dude.

The 2003fag:
>probably got introduced to FMA via Toonami, probably hasn't even watched 2003 since 2010.
>constantly starts 2003 vs brotherhood threads in an attempt to call attention to his series
>mistakes melodrama for emotional development and chides Brotherhood for not being as "dark", while calling 2003 seinen as an attempt to make his series, and himself, seem more grown-up than they really are.
>never calls attention to elements that 2003 did better than Brotherhood, such as shot composition, soundtrack, the pre-Greed episodes, and directing, and instead shitposts about muh nazis, equivalent exchange, and emotion.
>thinks that Dante, who was only relevant in the last fifth of the series, has generic motivations, and dies offscreen, is objectively a better villain than Father

The BrotherhoodBro:
>had to pursue Brotherhood subs through the internet, showing a higher degree of intelligence than 2003fags that had to turn on their mommy's television every Saturday
>rarely starts FMA threads because he realizes that there is no more meaningful discussion to be had about a series that finished 7 years ago
>recognizes that the series is a shonen series at heart and enjoyed both series on their own merits.
>recognizes that there are several elements that 2003 did better than Brotherhood, but still likes Brotherhood on its strong merits
>enjoys the strong dynamic cast of its series, and how all of their stories are woven together to deliver a thrilling satisfying story
>enjoys how Father is a constant threat that looms over the entire story after he is introduced, and most of the drama hinges on how they could possibly fight against an opponent like him

>>158834784


Notice people like >>158831058. In this scene, Ed finally learns not to apply the Law of Equivalent Exchange to everything, not just alchemy. To the viewer, this is obvious. Anyone with any modicum of intelligence would've been yelling at 2003 Ed to stop being an autistic savant, like his fanbase. The 2003fag misinterprets scenes like that as "depth" constantly, and fails to recognize that he is the laughingstock of all FMA fans. They are unable to recognize subtle character development, like >>158834486 does. When a character like 2003 Ed takes 50 episodes to finally learn not to apply EE to everything, that is dumb character development. The 2003fag is unable to recognize this, and lashes out at his Brotherhood counterparts out of an internalized self-hatred on how stupid he, and his favorite anime series, is.

Rude. Unintelligent. Manchildren. The 2003fag is a sad creature that autistically rants about how Brotherhood is such an awful series when the overwhelming opinion is that it is, at the very least, an enjoyable series with several flaws. They are nothing but contrarians that have no capacity for self-reflection and are unable to move on from their precious anime series that ended almost 15 years ago.

>>158834784
BrotherhoodBros will literally tell you that Brotherhood is the best anime ever. The fanbase is made of newfags who've seen ten anime and 15 year olds and the hyperboles they spout opens the series up to criticism from anyone who's seen better action shows or better dramas.

>>158834899
>Rude. Unintelligent. Manchildren.

Typical BrotherhoodBro doesn't see the irony.

Literally the last line in their anime applies equivalent exchange to real life.

Watched both. 2003 was terrible. It put me off from the series. BH redeemed that shitfest

2003 if you want a story with consequences and a bittersweet ending

2009 if you're a 12 year old shonenfag

>>158834486
>Not recognizing that Ed from the beginning of the series valued Alchemy to do literally everything and relied on it for his goals. And the fact that he sacrificed his ability to do alchemy is a huge moment for him because besides Al it was the major thing that he relied on and trusted in the most.

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>>158813478
Both did incredibly well in some aspects and utterly terrible in other. I pick Brotherhood because I like a plot about the usurpation of God a bit more than Mommyquest. Also because edgy as the dialogue may have been, Mustang vs. Envy is 10/10

>>158829778
But anon, it had rape in it. RAPE!!!

>>158833273
Don't forget fake Elric brothers and "Not Shadowlady"

>>158833280
Sure working hard to defend a shit character with generic and uninteresting motives

>>158833345
Rape is mature , guys!

>>158833833
People actually think "lol we in Germany now!!" Is a good ending

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>>158833273
>watching 2003 way back on adult swim with brother
>he says something like 'what if archer came back as robo archer?'
>that'd be fucking stupid, there's no way that could happen
>mfw

>>158813614
"I just liked it" =/= justifying you choice
Why'd you like it over Brotherhood? What is so private that you, under the veil on anonymity, can't bear to share?

>>158835281
>Bittersweet

You have an odd way of spelling dumb

>>158813478

Brotherhood simply is a more complete story with a satisfying conclusion.

>>158833206
She was still more useful than half the characters in 2003. Also 2003 doesn't have anything that you can think of that beats Greed's and Ling's importance and value in the story.

>>158813478
Thank fucking christ for those results. I was about to be really worried.

Brotherhood = generic shounenshit trash with a final boss type ending and a happy shounen ending

2003 = patrician kino that women will never understand

>>158835742
Can you tell me what Brotherhood did terribly in besides how the last battle was handled? Overrated yeah pretty much but there was nothing else that happened that was done in a very lackluster fashion.

It's not like it's Hunter x Hunter where it has lots of fuck ups that are ignored.

>>158813478
The problem with Brotherhood is that 2003 came first.
They couldn't use the same mood as 2003, and they had to do the beginning in a different way, but 2003 had already done it with almost perfection (and is one of the biggest reasons 2003 is so well regarded.)

That being said, Brotherhood handles everything else much better.

>>158837799
Hughes' death was poorly done, they managed to make the Lior arc more boring than the original, and I enjoyed Scar more in FMA than Brotherhood.

>>158837467
Do the same poll on /co/. You'll be shocked by how much shit taste they have.
Alot of the asswipes voting for Bones fanfiction are crossboarding scum from /co/mblr or /v/eddit.

>>158837799
>what Brotherhood did terribly in besides how the last battle was handled
I mean, the basic issues with Brotherhood are stunted QUALITY at times, way too fast paced at the start without removing some manga gags so the tone is whiplashy, and a few bits of character and plot that are kinda trite.

Overall I preferred BH because each of the antagonists came across as a legitimate threat that proved themselves, while side characters each got their time to shine and be valuable to the cast.

>>158813478
>brotherhood crushing 2003
all is as it should be

>>158837876
>Hughes' death was poorly done
To my knowledge, I think it was done well except for the fact the beginning was rushed unlike 2003 of course. At least they didn't leave shit out like Hunter x Hunter 2011.

>they managed to make the Liore arc more boring than the original
Not like that arc mattered and 2003 already did the unforgivable deed with Rose.

>I enjoyed Scar more in FMA than Brotherhood
I forgot what he was like in 2003 but he was amazing in Brotherhood where he never jobbed, somehow beat the second strongest Homunculus, and his character had great development. He even got to survive with his Ishvalan brethren.

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Brotherhood, solely because this happened

2003 because I've already seen brotherhood like four times

>>158837892
>while side characters each got their time to shine and be valuable to the cast
This is why I loved this series so much since every single character was useful in their own way, which is a rarity in about every shonen nowadays.

And since it was short and planned out very carefully, the plot was amazing itself. The QUALITY of the anime was pretty bad but all the fights had brilliant animation.

>>158833273
>>158838369
Never watched 2003. Can somebody give me a quick rundown on this guy?

>>158838927
Filler minion character. Lost half his body to a philosopher's stone transmutation circle. Instead of dying like he should have, he came back as a cyborg minion.

>>158837844
>They couldn't use the same mood as 2003
Yes they could you idiot.

2003 > Brotherhood.

Brotherhood is really rushed in the first part since they pretty much expected you to be familiar with the 2003 start. And it still miss a quite a lot from the manga.

>>158816727
You're a retard. alchemy was powered by the dead from WW1. 2003 takes place before WW2 happened

>>158833609
>>158816727
>>158816953
>>158821472
>>158833011

Where did this "jews/holocaust power alchemy" idea come from? They specifically said it was the dead from WW1, the holocaust never comes up and the story takes place years before the holocaust happened

did people just not pay attention or something?

>>158834484
Don't be so triggered, americans not knowing how many slavs died in WW1 isn't some jewish conspiracy. They don't focus on it

>>158834784
FMA 2003 never premiered on toonami

>>158838369
this

>>158839632
Being rushed in the first half is still better than being entirely cringe fanfiction on the 2nd half and ruining the first with original content. 2003 is just shit.

>>158815726
Technically its powered by death in our world which would mean they are all screwed in the modern era when death rates drop way down which is why the 2003 ending made no sense. The powered by the planet is self contained and comparatively much more logical. The 2003 anime never even bothered to hint that alchemy mysteriously loses strength for no apparent reason (Times of relative peace in our reality).

>>158834899
>2003 Ed takes 50 episodes to finally learn not to apply EE to everything
The fuck are you even blabbering about? Dante explicitely broke down to him why Equivalent Exchange didn't exist and he still chose to stick to it.

>>158813478
READ THE FUCKING MANGA

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>>158839048
Why couldn't they give him a mouth? He looks like a retarded baby sucking on an edgy pacifier.

>>158833383
He's fucking dead you insensitive cunt.

>>158843129
He shoot laser from there

>>158838369
JUST

2003 doesn't have any action scene that measures up to Greed attacking Bradley after regaining his memories, and that lasted for like 30 seconds or something.

>>158842522
>cringe

>>158813478
2003 because brotherhood was a copy paste of the manga

>>158813478
I just want more FMA. I'd kill for a continuation of either Brotherhood or 2003. What I'd really like is a prequel series/movie that follows Ed's rise as a state alchemist.

>>158833269
If you want to bash Wrath, at least watch the show instead of being a parrot.

>>158814660
Why was she so lewd? Made me pop a boner every now and then.

If you can look at the fucking disaster trainwreck that was the second half of 2003's plot and say that it was better than Brotherhood, then you deserve to be rounded up by Fuhrer King Bradley's death squads

>>158843619
Because she's best girl and Lyra's body is perfect. Of course, even if she was ugly as sin, her track alone would still make anyone hard.

>>158834484
good man

>>158833273
What does his dick look like

>>158833273
>Give me your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.

>>158813478
FMA 2003 is far better tone wise. Also the best music compare Brotherhood.

>>158813478
Bradley's dub voice actor died recently
rip

>>158833273
2003fags BTFO
My sides

>>158837886
>fanfiction
/co/ wouldn't care about this retarded logic. There are innumerable Batman canons, so if they actually followed it someone who reads comics would disregard the "The Dark Knight" out the gate as "fanfiction" too.

>>158835963
Brotherhood felt too much like your generic Anime apparently

>>158813478
Brotherhood because it's the only one I bothered to watch.

>>158832770
You're not really good at this, are you?

>>158832770
What's wrong with this statement?

>>158813478
Brotherhood is clearly better, but 2003 is a really good stand alone anime, i like them both.

Because, you know, just because i prefer something it doesn't mean that the other one is automatically shit. But a lot of you clearly doesn't get it.

>>158832939
Implying you wouldn't become a feminist after getting raped.

>>158843011
This. Brotherhood is rushed and 2003 is fan fiction that ultimately misses the whole point of the manga

>>158848717
She wasn't even that though. She was just a mute pawn with no agency of her own. Contrast that with the manga where its implied she becomes a bandit or some shit.

Only good thing about 2003 FMA Rose, is her being more brown

>>158813478
Read manga and watch 2003

Brotherhood is good too but only watch it if you have free time.

>>158813478
As much as I like 2003 version brotherhood is far superior and we all know it

>>158851092
>we
Wanna know how I know you haven't lurked for two years before posting?

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>>158851186
>muh oldfag shit
you clearly haven't

>>158851186
Wanna know how I know you prefer 2003?

>>158817099
excellent taste

>>158851186
How this this dumb ass meme start? Why don't you just say it instead of wasting time making this retarded ass post.

>>158838927
>Homunculi bow to Archer
>In contact with aliens
>Possess robot-like abilities
>Controls Central with an iron but fair fist
>Own laboratories & prisons countrywide
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities in the desert (Archergrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of alchemic research facilities in Amestris
>First true homunculus will in all likelihood be Archer homunculi
>said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence in Amestris has only been seen in Ishvalan monks and deep inside the Central research labs
>Ancient Cretean scriptures tell of an angel who will descend upon Amestris and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with him
>He owns transmutation R&D labs around the country
>You likely have Archer alchemy inside your home right now
>Archer is in regular communication with the Homunculus Father
>He learned fluent Ishvalan in under a week
>The nation entrusts their gold reserves with the him. There’s no gold in Central bank, only Ft. Archer
>He about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by Amestrian society
>In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he is a benevolent being

>>158851725
GREENTEXT PUKE

>>158851725
Leave.