What's the preferred video playback solution these days?

Manually setting up MPC-HC with MadVR.

MPC-HC + madVR

inb4 the memepv defense force

>>158794047
>>158794080
>winbabbies

>>158794179
Ugnuu~

>>158794047
>>158794080
okay, how do I set it up for optimal anime viewing?

>>158793993
MPC-HC + MadVR + xysubfilter

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CHALLENGE: produce an equally sharp mpv upscale to this MadVR upscale with as little noise and artifacting as this upscale, and post repeatable mpv settings for the upscale. MadVR settings for this are NGU AA medium image upscaling, and adaptive sharpen 1.0 + crispen edges 1.0 + anti-ringing filter under upscaling refinement. This image utilizes AMD denoising but you can use mpv's dn3dHQ for an equivalent effect. This challenge has been posted on /g/ many times and /g/ has failed every attempt at it.
Note: your subjective opinion of how nice this looks is irrelevant to this challenge. This is a technological experiment to see if mpv can produce an upscale this sharp without noise or artifacting. Refusing to attempt the challenge because of ambiguous buzzwords will be interpreted as an admission of defeat.

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>>158795343
Source image with source video in filename.

>>158793993
Crunchyroll prime

mpv is the only right answer

VLC, because it's easy and any """upgrade""" is superficial and not worth the effort.
Anyone who disagrees is a massive faggot.

>>158795434
>no NGU
Into the trash it goes.

>>158795465
Vanilla MPC is just as easy, but no crashes, glitches or 'loading fonts'.

google chrome

weedplayer

Anybody use the normalize audio setting in MPC-HC?

>>158796618
No. It causes audio clipping. I have, though, used Izotope Ozone's very high quality brickwall limiter to "remaster" audio tracks on my archived anime to reduce their dynamic range; Ozone is very awesome at clipping peaks without audible distortion or pumping.

>>158796891
>No. It causes audio clipping.
I should elaborate: it causes (sometimes severe) audible audio distortion via clipping.

>>158793993
Windows Media Player.

>>158793993
CCCP people is for people who can't figure out how to use mpv, this is 100% fact.

mpv with hq settings unless you're autistic

>>158793993
Notepad.

>>158797038
>Not nano
get my my level

>>158795429
You joke, but this is slowly becoming true. I've seen a lot anons this year on /a/ that unironically stream.

>>158795871
You joke but chrome can play mkv files

>>158797038
i just read the subtitles, my imagination has the best resolution and toppest quality audio

>>158797058
/a/ is the cool anime place for normalfags since it's one click away from the other normalfag boards

>>158797064
yeah but i mostly use it for mp4

Went over to a buddy's house today. He's always been a streamfag. Showed him how to find high quality downloads with Hexchat. Opened up just an average 720p TV rip and he's like WHOA LOOK AT THAT QUALITY IT'S LIKE I'M WATCHING IT ON TV.
>streamfags

>>158797148
Works the same really

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>>158796891
Example of this. Say I don't want that loud-ass noise at ~11:45 bursting my eardrums or startling me, but I don't want it to sound distorted or exhibit pumping like it would if I used your average brickwall limited.

>>158797064
>>158797148
Web browsers being treated as media players or operating systems is why they're so bloated

>>158797058
Opposed to ironically streaming?

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>>158797268
>limited
Limiter. Anyways, I dial this in...

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>>158793993
MPV >*

everything else is meme shit. Use these settings in mpv.conf:

scale=haasnsoft
cscale=ewa_lanczos
dscale=mitchell
deband=yes
deband-iterations=2
deband-range=12
interpolation=yes
video-sync=display-resample
tscale=oversample
sigmoid-upscaling=yes

>>158793993
Literally nothing wrong with CCCP

>>158797281
My take on it was that it doesn't have to rely on the system media player to play embedded videos/music

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>>158797318
..and I end up with this. None of the clipped peaks exhibit any audible distortion or pumping, not even the moment at ~11:45.
Ozone is also super great at dithering, as well as simply being a nice suite of tools for musicians looking to master their own music.

>>158797496
That's because it's just MPC-HC but with LAV filters as standalone instead of just built-in just so they can still call it a codec pack.

There is literally no reason to be using CCCP in this day and age

>>158795343
That looks like shit, I'll keep using cccp

>>158797716
(You)

>>158793993
Use mpv

>>158797297
>ironically streaming
That's horrible subs rips.

Real talk.

What's the quality of streaming anime these days? I remember when CS wasn't a business and it was just that faggot shinji and his friends, but the quality was fucking awful. Does streamed anime look similar to what we get off the HS rips? Or is it still
>streaming

VLC cause i'm not a pretentious faggot with an inferiority complex. Also I rather watch anime like is intended and not with a million custom settings.

is xysub filter better than vs filter?

>>158798060
Then don't use /v/lc if you want to watch anime as intended

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>>158795343

>>158798086
ya

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Install mpv:
https://mpv.srsfckn.biz/

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>>158798105
That's >>>/g/60833826
As has been pointed out several times, that came close but is not as sharp in the circled areas here. Try again.

>>158795343
>>158798105
>>158798232
The 3 look horrible, wtf are you guys doing to your anime, it looks like an oil paint.

>>158798321
>Refusing to attempt the challenge because of ambiguous buzzwords will be interpreted as an admission of defeat.

>>158796928
How? Does mpc have shitty look ahead? It really shouldn't clip at all.

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>>158793993
kissanime.ru

MPV (patricians)

MPC-HC+madvr (commoners)

VLC (retards)

browser stream (garbage)

>>158798340
I use mpc-hc+madvr retard, put some glasses on and fix your setup

>>158797915
It depends. There's no noticeable difference between downloading HorribleSubs and watching a 720p stream. But it sure as hell is noticeable when you watch a BD rip.
Seriously, there's no point on downloading crunchy rips.

I unironically use KCP

>>158798475
>web browser scaler is same as scalers used by mpc-hc+madvr or mpv

k e k

>>158798351
I don't know how but I tested it immediately after>>158796618 posted and it rather immediately produced extremely audible clipping.
My best intepretation is to prevent clipping with it you need to know the exact percent you can boost the loudest moment in the audio track by without clipping in order to use it without clipping, and you'd need to extract the audio with MKVCleaver and open and inspect it in an audio editor to know that information. Obviously nobody's going to do this every time they watch a new episode, so this makes the normalize feature impractical.
Remastering audio of archived anime as shown by >>158797268 is the best way to reduce dynamic range without producing distortion or pumping, but is time-consuming.

>>158798569
Another drawback of that remastering method is if your archived anime has lossy audio, you'll need to save the remastered audio as storage space hungry FLAC to prevent audible lossy artifacts resulting from encoding the same audio twice with lossy codecs. Of course, if your source audio is FLAC then you can encode to Opus 192 kbps, which is rather uber.

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>>158793993
Commies deserve to die

>>158798685
Everyone is a commie to ancaps, even nazis

>>158795343
I'm all for madvr and shit but look at that lineart. It looks like oil shit, like you nnedi it + fastsharpeningorwhatever(bloated value). You might want to tweak those sharpening setting.

>>158795343
Problem is that those settings look like garbage on a lot of anime and I don't want to change settings for every show.

Convert video to MP4 and use Windows Media Player

>>158798882
This

>>158798355
>>>/r/eddit/

What is wrong with VLC?

>>158799071
Scales like shit.

>>158799071
/v/ likes it

>>158799071
Shit upscalling, historically plagued by bugs and retarded issues

>>158797660
I've been using CCCP basically since S1 Haruhi was running. I have yet to be given a meaningful argument why someone like me needs to "upgrade" when it still works just fine.

>>158799187
Scales like shit.
Scaling algorithms have improve a lot in the las few years thanks to 4k and better hardware.
Scalers like NGU and nnedi3 will scale 720p or 480p video with better quality than cccp.

>>158799295
*last few

>>158799119
What do you mean

>>158799186
But is not 2010 anymore.

>All this setup talk
I guess i will continue being a brainlet.

>>158798351
Also, from memory, ffdshow's normalizer clips in exactly the same way. It might actually be the same code.

LibreELEC.

>>158799375
mpv vs vlc scaling:
https://diff.pics/4DH0OL0WinEq/1

>>158799808
they look exactly the same

>>158799831
(You)

MPC-HC out of the box works fine for everything these days. You don't even need MadVR.

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>>158800532
Debanding and smooth motion are pretty critical features of MadVR, anon, not to mention enhanced upscaling. Debanding is the big one, though.

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>>158800821
Compare Komari's cheeks. Debanding is a big deal for anime, especially if you ever watch Horriblesubs.

>>158793993
mpv
MPC-HC (just MPC-HC, nothing else) if you want it to just werk and on Windows
mpv if you want it to just werk and you're on GNU/Linux, Windows or macOS
IINA (an mpv frontend) if you're on macOS and want some homo/pretty looking player
MPC-HC+madVR if you're retarded and /v/

Anything else it's deprecated or abandoned

>tfw GPU isn't good enough to use NGU

MPC-HC + MadVR for those who want optimal picture quality.
mpv for those who want slightly inferior picture quality to MadVR, but who want to be pretentious and feel smarter than other people because they use software with text-only configuration.

>>158800821
What season and episode is that?
I know that I never see any banding with just MPC-HC and nothing else.

Still using KCP after like 6 years
still works just fine even though the guys behind it all died in 2016

>>158801126
I think is the other way around anon

>>158801126
>oil painting filter
>optimal
madVR can't even get color right, you need to use some abomination with external and pretty limited 3dluts made with ArgyllCMS
Meanwhile mpv just werks and even fetches your profile from your OS CMS

>>158801127
It's not an innate problem, it happens when either the encoding was fucked up, if you went full retard with filters or if your monitor is bad.

I use mpv, mostly because it handles in frame multiple subs.

>>158801127
I don't remember the episode, but I remember that I screenshotted it from a Horriblesubs file, hence,
>especially if you ever watch Horriblesubs
It's a legitimate point because so many people here watch HS because their release speed is so convenient.

I use KCP for the sole reason that Daiz dislikes them.

>>158801262
>>158801378
Oh, I see. Well, more often than not I watch 1080p blu rays. I don't want things seasonally very often. I want until they are done and marathon them. But, always watching blu ray is probably why I never see it.

KCP, I'm already too much of an idiot for that so that's what I get. I still haven't seen Utena because I can't get it to work with my DAC (external, onboard might work but the female jack is screwy.)
It's a cheap USB DAC/amp, so I should have expected it to be fickle.

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>>158800821
>>158800858
Stop watching shitty rips, the BD has been out since forever

>>158801262
Is a screenshot not a photo, the monitor isn't a factor

>>158793993
MPV with KCP

I've been using MPC-HC + madvr + xysubfilter for a few months now. Gotta say, it looks better than everything else I've tried, such as cccp, kcp, mpv, k-lite ect. The only issue I have is my GPU. It can handle playback just fine, but it doesn't half get loud sometimes. I guess its just because it's 4 years old. Alas I'm a poorfag and I wont be able to upgrade any time soon

>>158793993
I use Daum potplayer, am I the only one?

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>>158797058
Atleast I'm not a crunchycuck like you.

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What's wrong with LAV + ffdshow. I always see dudes going on about madVR but what, if any, are the actual differences/advantages?

I've just used the standard K-Lite mega installer for years and have never had any problems.

>>158797446
mpv does not navigate between files in the same folder and lacks seekbar thumbnails.

Before you try linking a LUA script for file navigation, keep in mind that none of them work regardless of keybind settings since the next and previous buttons on the OSC are still grayed out.

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>Install mpv
>Type "profile=opengl-hq" in the config
>Connect your PC to your TV via HDMI
>Watch anime instead of wasting time on placebo

>>158802609
The fuck are you talking about? I can navigate files just fine with my keybinds and a lua script.

>>158802609
>keep in mind that none of them work regardless of keybind settings since the next and previous buttons on the OSC are still grayed out.
It worked with the load folder as playlist one or whatever it was called
Nowadays I just drag and drop the folder into the mpv shortcut or use a wildcard to load everything in the folder from the terminal, it just werks

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>>158802838
Neither of these work. No, I'm not stupid enough to have them both load at the same time, they're just in the same folder to show I've tried two scripts.

>>158802010
>>158796158

>>158802962
How are you trying to use nextfile.lua? You are just using the keybind shift+left/right, right? You aren't trying to use the OSC or something, right?

>>158802431
>LAV + ffdshow
I don't follow.

how do you open up the config in mpv?

>>158803226
you need to make one first and save it as mpv.conf in mpv folder

here is an example

# Video settings
profile=opengl-hq
scale=ewa_lanczossharp
cscale=ewa_lanczossharp
tscale=oversample
video-sync=display-resample
framedrop=vo
hwdec=no
gamma=-15

# Audio settings
ao=wasapi
audio-channels=stereo
softvol-max=200

# Language settings
alang=jpn, jp
slang=eng, en

# Screenshot settings
screenshot-format=jpg
screenshot-jpeg-quality=100
screenshot-jpeg-source-chroma=yes
screenshot-tag-colorspace=yes
screenshot-high-bit-depth=yes
screenshot-directory=D:\Pictures\mpv\
screenshot-template=D:\Pictures\mpv\%F - %p

# Window settings
keep-open=no
force-window=yes
autofit-larger=90%x90%
autofit-smaller=500x500
geometry=50%:50%

>>158803100
Yes, it does not function. The OSC next/previous buttons do not function either.

Meanwhile, MPC with MadVR works perfectly. I didn't need to download or write a script (that ends up not working at all) to do something as simple as navigate between files in the same folder.

>>158803275
Thanks anon. Are those the "best settings" for mpv?

>>158803226
You need to create a .txt file and save it as .conf, paste the .conf file in the same folder as mpv, you can edit the .conf file with any text editor.

Try adding something like

profile=opengl-hq

This will tell mpv to use better scalers and debanding.

You can add more settings.
https://mpv.io/manual/stable/#video-filters

>>158803352
Eh, sort of. I just got it from some thread long time ago and tweaked it a bit for usage in Windows. Works for me, might work for you.

>>158803276
Well, those scripts works perfectly for me on my toaster. I don't know why you seem to have trouble getting them to work.

>>158803371
>>158803375
Brilliant stuff, thanks fellas

>>158793993
Windows Media Player :^)

VLC as always.

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>>158803124
I actually tried out MadVR ~6 months ago but didn't notice any difference what so ever so just went back to LAV + ffdshow which is the default.

The only thing I could understand that madVR has going for it is hardware acceleration. (LAV has it too tho.) But that is completely useless. The whole software acceleration vs hardware acceleration doesn't matter unless you're on some POS chromebook or something.

>>158804166
HW acceleration doesn't go well with 10-bit encodes.
Sometimes it fuck ups the color space.

>>158793993
Just use vanilla mpchc. It already has lavfilter built in. Add madvr if you're an autist.

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>>158804166
>audio: eng
LAV and ffdshow both do audio and video rendering, and the former also has a splitter. Why would you need two things doing the same thing? It's not like you're going to use them both at the same time for the same task. The reason you want madvr is for video rendering, not decoding. You use it in combination with either LAV or ffdshow. Hardware decoding does not work for 10bit video at all, and is dumb anyway.

>>158804516
*LAV and ffdshow both do audio and video decoding
Good job, me.

optimal way to set up mpv? spoonfeed me or i'll stick with cccp like a faggot.

>playback
Just use kissanime like a normal person. Unless you're a thirdworlder with a shit internet connection there's no reason to not stream it.

>>158804615
>>158804231
Uhm, so how does Kaby Lake native decoding fit in lav/ffdshow/madVR decoding? Cause 10-bit decoding is now a thing.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10959/intel-launches-7th-generation-kaby-lake-i7-7700k-i5-7600k-i3-7350k/6
>>158804516
As to why I'm using both of them, I wondered the same thing myself but that's just how K-Lite/MPC-HC comes standard and it works so I'm not gonna fuck with it.

>>158804652
Here >>158803371

opengl-hq is more than enough.

>>158804747
thanks anon

mpv. It's so lightweight and pretty much does everything I need.

I used to be autistic about playback and used MPC-HC + MadVR and KCP, but there's really no point.

Was it autism?

Is it safe to use KCP even after the whole thing with viruses in subtitle files?

>>158804816
When was the last time that was updated?

>>158804816
KCP is dead, and the last update was sometime last year.

>>158804736
>Cause 10-bit decoding is now a thing.
Not with h.264, which you might have seen if you'd bothered to read the article you linked. Regardless, hardware decoding works with LAV or ffdshow's video decoder. Instead of using the CPU you're using the GPU. It doesn't replace them.

K-lite is, and has always been, bloated garbage. If you're going to use a codec pack at least use CCCP.

What's this MadVR meme?

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a...are you guys ironically sperging about that custom setting nasa grade bullshit or are you serious? jesus fucking christ there is nothing wrong with streaming, you niggas just can't contain your autism and should work on that instead as opposed to throwing a fit over how other people watch anime

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>>158805416
I havent seen someones attempt to bait this hard in a long time. Nice try

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>>158794179
>lincucks

Crunchyroll premium on Firefox and a bluray disc player.

I have compared several titles on Crunchyroll premium (1080p) (I use my TV as a monitor) vs the respective bluray's on a Sony UBP-X800/KD55-A1 combo and the difference in noise is unnoticeable unless you pause, put your face in front of the TV and search for it. Even when doing so the difference is really small.

Other factors like color and FPS remain unaffected when switching between those two sources.

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>>158805696
>FPS

>>158793993
MPC is all you need. CCCP is outdated and will fuck up your video.

>>158805810
No it won't.

>>158805858
I see you only use horrible subs mkvs

>>158805858
I've been using CCCP for a decade and have never had it fuck up a video once. Yes, it hasn't been updated for a release build in a while, but there's nothing wrong with it.

>>158805696
>Other factors like color and FPS remain unaffected when switching between those two sources.
You clearly know what youre talking about.
No you dont, as expected of a streamfag, just shut the fuck up.

>tfw you are spiritually and financially well off enough that you don't actually care what other people do but you still shit post because it's fun and you didn't buy a 3rd monitor for nothing

>>158806099
I don't need to know shit, just 2 eyes to spot the differences.

>just shut the fuck up
I don't to open my mouth to write on a keyboard

>>158793993
I still use MPC-HC, MadVR and XySubFilter with the settings that nyaa.se used to recommend. Why change something that works?

Casuals: vlc
Nerds: MPC-HC + madVR
Real men: mpv

>>158808728
If you say so, Mr Man.

>>158795343
Nice oil painting

>>158808728
What is so manly about throwing a few lines of text in a config file?
If anything it was quicker and easier to tweak once you know the options than messing with the GUI in mpc-hc, I would happily choose either and be satisfied with the end result.
Only reason I solely use mpv these days is because I use arch as my primary OS.

But what's the best one for mac?

So I set up MPC + MadVR + xysubfilter months ago , It looks better than MPV but it takes literally more than minute to open the file.I was using Kawaii codec pack since forever but anons said it's dead so I switched. What the fuck did I do wrong?

>>158793993
mpv or Bomi. Or VLC if you enjoy gray glitching as the video loads after you unpause it.

>>158810381
>What the fuck did I do wrong?
You fucking switch when nothing's wrong at all.

It's like fixing a working door

>>158810381
>looks better than MPV
If you want MPV with a UI look into Bomi. It's based on MPV but it also has GUI settings.

>>158810747
I didn't mean the UI , I compared the image quality of the video specially when playing upscales.It's very very minimal.

>all these MPC-HC fags
It's like no one has heard of MPC-BE

>>158793993
MPC for Windows, VLC for Android.

>>158793993
Plex on my dedicated server and TV client.

>>158796891
>>158798569
>>158796618
why would you ever want to reduce dynamic range? It will give you ear fatigue

If you refuse to use mpv, at least change to LAV Filters Megamix
https://www.videohelp.com/software/LAV-Filters-Megamix
It's the same thing as CCCP and KCP but it's actually still updated

>>158804231
There's no hardware decoding for H264/x264 10bit.
If you use CUVID/DXVA2 and play a 10bit video it falls back to software mode.

There is hardware decoding for H264 8 bit, HEVC 8/10/12, VP9 8/10 but none and probably never will h264 10 bit ever become mainstream enough for hardware manufacturers to care about it.

https://imouto.my/tutorials/watching-h264-videos-using-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/

I just use this autist's tutorial/pack.

>>158811283
>It will give you ear fatigue
This isn't music we're talking about, and no, it won't, unless you're listening at an unreasonable volume. There's a couple of reasons why one may want to do so:
- An episode that's mostly at the same volume level, but with one or a few extremely loud moments twice as loud as the rest, like >>158797268 won't cause the isolated moments to be super loud, possibly hurting ears or startling others in the home if listening with speakers;
- Some users may be using EQ, which will lower their volume level if done correctly in a manner which doesn't cause clipping. Some users may also be using high impedance/low sensitivity headphones/speakers with a source that doesn't have a ton of headroom for extra gain. Users doing one or both of these things may find that some sources mastered at a low level may not get loud enough for their liking. Reducing dynamic range without causing distortion or pumping is a practical solution to this problem;
- Users without a super high quality audio source may find that when they turn the volume up for sources mastered at a low level, they get audible hissing from their source. Reducing dynamic range and boosting the overall volume of the file can prevent this hissing.

>>158793993
SMPlayer+MPV as the engine.

I stream Crunchyroll through mpv with youtube-dl. It just works.

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I feel like I'm too stupid to do .conf stuff with mpv.

Post mpv configs.

>>158793993
gogoanime
chiaanime
kissanime

>>158812533
That guide is outdated as fuck and tells you to install lots of unnecessary bloat garbage

>>158813191
1. Make portable_config folder in your mpv.exe folder (assuming you use Windows)
2. Make a mpv.conf in there
3. Only use a few basic options unless you're a hardcore videophile and you already know what you're doing

These are the only ones I need

#decent video quality options in only one line
profile=opengl-hq

#keeps mpv open when a video ends
keep-open=yes

#resizes vertically large videos so they don't go under the taskbar
autofit-larger=100%x90%

#set screenshot directory, and filename template to be similar to MPC-HC
screenshot-directory="C:/home/pictures"
screenshot-template="%f (%wH.%wM.%wS.%wT) [%tY.%tm.%td %tH.%tM.%tS]"

#loops webms and gifs forever
[extension.webm]
loop-file=inf

[extension.gif]
loop-file=inf

>>158813261
https://pastebin.com/raw/cgGGJbp8

>>158811012
>shitty DirectShow codecs instead of LAV
What about nope

>>158797058
>/a/
Those aren't anons, probably just shitposters/crossboarders.

>>158805810
It won't fuck up the video, but madVR isna good tool to improve the quality in HS ' shitty encodes

>>158801471
Even if you watch 1080p you still need to upscale the chroma channel, also some BD encodes are still shit and have banding and whatnot

>>158799808
>>158799831
The mpv one looks less blurry, focus on her mouth

>>158813495
Thanks for that.

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>>158793993
Foobar2000

>>158802010
No I use it too, moved to it from KMPlayer. I just cant stand the MPC interface that everyone seem to glorify.

autismus maximo

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>>158813959
Thats my Fathers name, you heathen!

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https://imouto.my/tutorials/watching-h264-videos-using-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/#checklist

>>158813696
>>158800821 and >>158800858 prove that MadVR is an excellent tool to improve the quality of HS videos, yet you say that? Hurr, durr.

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You idiots will never notice a difference between madVR video and some fucking random shit at the same bitrate and resolution.