Saekano

Because she deserved it.

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Because she's a shit.
Utaha a best.

>>158786811
Kato is the best you double nigger

>>158786925
A possessiv cunt. No thanks

Megumi a best
Eriri a cute
Utaha a shit

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>https://pastebin.com/qGae5bqU

GS3 summary

>>158787014
>Everybody is horrible: The show

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Utaha > Mayu > Megumi > Michiru > Izumi > Machida >>> trash >>> Akane > Eriri

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>>158787076
These two are good people.

>>158787281
Who?

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>tfw no bf

>>158787281
>normalfag who invades your house and throws your precious collection into the trash
>good people

>>158787014
>she gets a mail from Tomoya, and as she reads it she just gets angrier and angrier until she sees the last line “I want to see you soon.”
>Megumi, about to lose her flatness and trying to hold back her excitement, prints out the mail
Possessive Megumi is cute

>>158787014
>Megumi says that she doesn’t care for a trial for greater love; in exchange for just a little happiness, she’d take the route with no conflict
>her crying grows uncontrollable, but Utaha tells her that she feels nothing from her crying and that since it’s her route’s challenge, she can do something about it
>internally, Utaha monologues that the pain Megumi feels from a mere two week absence is nothing compared to the pain Eriri felt from losing a decade long love and that Eriri’s crying had real sorrow

Why is Megumi so shit?

>>158788731
I don't get it. Why would crying about (so far) short-lived love be inferior to crying about a love that lasted nearly a decade? Who the fuck gives Utaha the right to decide which one feels the most sorrow or which one is suffering the most?
Bitch is just bitter because she lost.

>>158788731
But Megumi is the rightful winner. Eriri can go die while crying that she lost.

>>158786259
because all suffering does is make you a shitty person with problems

>>158788801
Utaha didn't say who she thought deserved to win. Only who she thought suffered more

>>158786259
What am I seeing here?

Why do people watch this type of wish fullfilment haremshit with no artistic or intellectual value?

>>158789036
And that's what I was complaining about. She acts as if Megumi's suffering is inferior to Eriri's just because Eriri loved Tomoya for a longer period of time.
That's bullshit. There is no definite measure for that sort of thing and if anything it's up to Megumi and Eriri to see which one is suffering the most, not Utaha.

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>bawww I waited for him the longest
>bawww I suffered the most
>bawww it's Tomoya's fault he didn't understand me and I didn't understand him
>bawww I dindu nuffin and deserved to win bawww

This novel just made me dislike Eriri even more. I'm glad she got BTFO and there's more tears to come.

>>158789161
Megumi cries because he's gone for two weeks. Eriri cries because her feelings will never be requited. To Utaha, it's an easy decision.

>>158789259
Eriri cries because she's retarded and it's entirely her own fault that she lost. She got no sympathy from me.

>>158789259
And who gave her the right to decide shit? Maybe Megumi feelings for Tomoya are so strong than a two week absence is enough to bring her a lot of pain and maybe they aren't.
I'm not arguing who is suffering the most, I'm arguing that Utaha has no right to pass judgement on other people's feelings, which seems extremely arrogant to me.

>>158789354
Well yeah, Utaha is bitter about losing and that affects her judgment, but she just saw Eriri cry and as far as she could see, Eriri's crying was more intense.

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So cute.

>>158786259
All of Eriri's suffering is self-inflicted because she's an idiot who doesn't learn from her mistakes or even admit when she makes them.

>>158788731
You forgot that Eriri deserved it. Second, Utaha was just bitter because why would a winning girl be crying at all.

>>158787014
Do I smell yuri?

>>158788238
You forgot most of Michirus good dialogue was Utaha feeding her lines

what I don't get about this series is why anyone WANTs any of these top tier goddesses to fight for the dick of that beta shit mc. The mc is literally the worst human being in their story, and I'm supposed to cheer for a girl to win his dick?

Frankly I am hoping he BTFO all of them with his autism so that they all can end up happily ever after with far superior men later in life.

>>158790502
He's not THAT bad.

>>158786259
She isn't the main girl.

>>158790936
>He's not THAT bad.
he's pretty fucking autistic.

>>158789922
What mistakes?
She lost at the beginning of the novel and it's stupid.
>I can not love you because you betrayed me when you were 8 and it doesn't matter that you risked your life for my dream

>>158791130
She lost way before that when he betrayed Tomoya trust for the second fucking time rght after their relationship was in its best moment.

>>158791130
>you were 9
She avoided him even when they were 15-17, wtf you talking about.

>>158789354
Really? Seems like simple logic to me.

Who has the right to be more distraught? A person who loses a loved one for a few weeks or another who has been in the same position for a decade (albeit her fault) and will never have that love requited?

Think its pretty clear who to feel worse for.

>>158790936
He's a blithering autist.

Which is why I can't fathom why anyone talks about winning in this show. Everyone loses for wasting their time with him

>>158791130
>I'm going to drop you and refuse to speak to you for the better part of a decade, then have the gall to blame you for it, then when you let me back into your good graces and start to trust me again, I'm going to immediately drop you again and make a lame excuse for why it's your fault

Eriri is a fucking retard and her pain is her own doing. She doesn't deserve pity.

>>158791578
I don't want to go full faggot but love is nothing you can't just measure. Like I said before, maybe Megumi's love for Tomoya is so strong that two weeks of not seeing him causes him more pain than what Eririr is going through and maybe Eriri is the one suffering the most, the thing is that Utaha is no position to determine whose suffering is stronger and by doing so she comes out as a bitter and sore loser.
And at least from the way the summary words it it's not that Utaha feels worse for Eririr because they have a more close relationship that the one she has with Megumi, she is literally saying that Megumi's sorrow is inferior to Eriri.

>>158788108
;-;

>>158791712
> love is nothing you can't just measure.
wat
*love isn't something you can just measure
I don't know what the fuck happened with that sentence. I blame the lack of sleep.

>>158791712
> Like I said before, maybe Megumi's love for Tomoya is so strong that two weeks of not seeing him causes him more pain than what Eririr is going through.

Isn't this by itself an assumption you're making? I haven't read the story since good lord, I've grown to dislike just about every character at this stage so I'm not aware of the context, just the logic presented.

>Utaha is no position to determine whose suffering is stronger

Oh come now, while I understand your point? Suffering is something that can be determined, at least to an extent.

If you see someone who has achieved their dream and is distraught by a temporary setback and place them against another who has flat out lost...It is neither unreasonable nor arrogant of Utaha to believe Eriri is suffering more. Just as anyone would pity someone who lost a limb over someone who flunked an important (but rectifiable) test.

Whether Utaha is correct about her assertion is another matter.

>>158791336
He still shows his power level like a retard.

>>158792464
Why would he stop? I mean, he is a fucking autist but the guy is happy that way.
Bitch is either retarded or really self-centered if she was expecting him to change for her sake or to not choose a girl who didn't give him the cold shoulder for years and betrayed him twice.

>>158792464
Still, didnt she loved him for 10 year, even feeling pain?

>>158792544
But the other girl give it the cold shoulder for months

>>158792608
You have a point there.

>>158788731
>Eriri’s crying had real sorrow
Jesus Christ what a fucking gang of yards. Utaha instantly drops to second last place for this faggotry, she and Eriri might as well become a lesbian couple.

>>158792693
Yeah, but in her case she was angry at him for doing something that hurt her and everything could have been solved sooner if the MC wasn't such a passive beta asshole.
In Eriri case Tomoya didn't really do anything to deserve being ignored like that and his attempt at fixing things ended up with her betraying him again.

>>158792715
She, quite literally, calls Eriri her friend for life.

>>158792715
>Utaha can't have an opinion
She didn't even voice it.

>>158786259
If suffering was needed for success, all of /a/ would be millionaires.

>>158792760
Nope.
She was jealous.

>>158792818
Jealousy was involved no doubt but even then she didn't start ignoring him out of fucking nowhere, Tomoya actually did something to cause her to get mad at him and Megumi told him so before she began to ignore him.
You can't compare that with Eriri ignoring Tomoya out of nowhere despite the fact that the only thing he did was being an outspoken autist because she values more her social life than the dude she supposedly loves.

>>158792907
Eriri was a weak girl who hates being bullied

>>158792960
tomoya or no bully, she took the decision

>>158786259
Girls who suffered the most are usually the most interesting. Search your feelings, you know this to be true.

>>158793161
Only when the girl didn't deserve her suffering. Eriri is completely responsible for everything that happened to her.

>>158793059
Isn't it a really hard decision for a kid?

Is there any anime/manga that MC is female and breaks up with antisocial childhood friend to become popular. Years pass but now she gets bullied for any random thing and friend is there to save her?

>>158793481
For a kid yes, but 10 years passed and she still didn't give a fuck. Tomoya might be a retard but he wins on this one.

>>158793161
Worked for Setsuna who is also written by the same author.

>>158793213
How does that not make a girl more pitiful and deserving sympathetic? Especially if said girl is sincere, earnest, and can't help it? Either way, the writing pins down the main source of the issue back when Tomoya and Eriri 9 years ago. They were just kids and can't deal with complex feelings and decisions, much less empathizes one another. Utaha points that out. It's irresponsible to blame young children like that.

>>158793660
Eriri is just pitiful, not sympathetic. Maybe if she was smarter and was able of learning from her past mistakes, she'd be more liked.

>>158793161
Well the girl who suffered the most is the most talked here, so yeah it's true.

>>158793844
She's just infamous. Nowhere near as popular as Megumi or even Utaha.

>>158793563
But she tried, she joined his pet project, she apologized and risked her health.

>>158793878
Stll the most talked.

>>158793951
Only because Eririfags are the most autistic waifufags and will never let anyone have the last word when shitting on Eriri.

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>>158793660
Please stop comparing Setsuna to the one-dimensional caricatures from this turd. Thanks.

>Tomoya loves a fairytale happy ending

Will this series somehow end with one?

>>158793900
And then betrayed him the minute he started to trust her again, proving she learned nothing from her previous betrayal.

>>158794128
I don't think so.
It's going to have a good end but there wasn't really a conflict between the main pair or a trail to overcome.

>>158794128
From his point of view, it will be, but he'll never know just how heartbroken Eriri was.

>>158793511
Dump, I need some healing on my life

>>158794250
Why would Eriri stop chasing him if Utaha says she'll continue?

...Why the fuck did Utaha say she'll keep gunning for him?

>>158794224
Anon that was poisoned since the beginning, Akane put the decision of join her only to Eriri and the plot demanded that she can't draw as long as she is happy.

>>158793991
>wants to discuss and debate a character you don't like instead of talking about the girl he likes
Literally autism and tsundere.

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>>158793729
Eriri is both pitiful and sympathetic. Being more emotional rather than logical as a girl helps her since if she was logical than she would be portrayed as calculating and unfeeling more than the opposite. That would make her less relatable as a person.

>>158793878
>Implying Utahafags isn't a dying race

>>158794091
The comparison is value. Don't deny it.

>>158794709
The comparison isn't even right since Eriri is more similar to Kazusa.

>>158794786
It's a suffering comparison, not a whole character comparison. And actually Eriri takes from both Setsuna and Kazusa.

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>>158794709
>Utahafags a dying race
Not in the place that matters.

>>158786259
I don't particularly like Eriri, but she'll get over it. The worst thing she "lost" was an overbearing four-eyed sperglord who she found out couldn't even light her creative fire anymore.

>>158794861
>Compares "suffering"
Are you using your brain? How the fuck you compare this on totally different characters?

>>158794861
Eriri is just based on Rea from Parfait. Any other similarities with other girls are also common among Maruto heroines.

>>158794893
Who cares about Japan.

>>158794939
Setsuna is quite self-destructive and suffered the most, it's among the reason why she's most interesting. Quit making it complicated.

>>158794959
Explain.

>>158794959
>Any other similarities with other girls are also common among Maruto heroines.
Isn't that kind of a stretch to say? WA2 and Saekano are probably the most well-known works Maruto has done. And WA2 is preceded by Saekano. Eriri and Utaha have traits that are clearly derived from WA2. I don't know about Parfait, but from what I gather that series doesn't appear to be a dark or serious story. The main heroines don't seem to have spiritual successors aside from blonde twintails in the design department.

>>158795071
Megumi is what Setsuna would be if the plot didn't fuck her all over. Conversely, Eriri is what Kazusa would be without the plot armor.

>>158795427
>I don't know about Parfait, but from what I gather that series doesn't appear to be a dark or serious story.
Neither is Saekano. Parfait is probably more emotionally charged than Saekano without reaching WA2's levels of drama. Eriri is a direct copy of Rea, from design from base personality. Nothing really from the WA2 heroines that wasn't done before by Maruto was attributed to Eriri.

>>158795577
Emotionally charged but without WA2-esque drama? That doesn't sound like Maruto's style. Are there detailed summaries or translations somewhere that describe the heroines?

>>158795432
That's more of a role comparison. And I don't disagree.

>>158795716
Well yeah.
It's not like the nips post here.

>>158795071
Setsuna was interesting because she was a sly fox that tried to fight a losing battle against "true love" and almost succeded. In comparison, Eriri's suffering was a direct consequence of her own self-absorbed personality and cowardice.

>>158786259
You know how it is, best girls almost never win.

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>>158795830
>Eriri
>best girl

>>158795827
But Eriri tried to make things better.

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When will we get a manga/anime series about two harem members losing the MCBowl and finding love with each other?

>>158795932
For herself. This is the biggest and most defining difference.

>>158795899
Eriri is best girl, Utaha agrees don't bother her.

>>158795830
Only retarded and blind Eririfags would think Eriri deserves to win after GS3. She reached Hatoko's level of I DON'T UNDERSTAND HIM rant.

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>>158795959

>>158795801
Yeah but that proves the point that she's nowhere near as popular as Megumi and Utaha.

>>158786259
because all of her suffering was her own fucking fault

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>>158796114
>Utaha pitying pathetic loser Eriri is somehow thinking she's the best
>mfw Utaha will make some extra bucks using Eriri's life failure as a tool for a new story

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>>158796168
Hatoko was best girl though

>>158795827
How is Setsuna's action not a direct consequence of her suffering either? Even when she was with the MC, she suffered because deep down she knew that she wasn't the one. Worse when NTR happened, which went both ways.

Setsuna was pure girl on the surface with an angelic side, but is manipulative when it came to love. Her actions led to harming not only herself, but Kazusa and the MC as well. Eriri was at fault before the story started. She is also a pure girl in an opposite direction, that is, she isn't a schemer, but her actions harmed her chances without even having a real chance.

>>158795681
I think this is the only info available for you EOPs.
https://calamitousintents.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/parfait-chocolat-second-brew-re-order-review/

>Utaha writes a novel about a pair of ronery college girl artists embracing the yuri and becoming creator partners for life
>Megumi won't look Utaha straight in the face for awhile
>it flies right over Eriri's head

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>>158795830
Feels bad ;_;

>Utaha thinks Eriri is better
Are Utahafags on suicide watch yet?

>>158796659
Utaha was BTFO many moons ago. They never left the list.

>>158796290
Most of the reviews I've seen of Maruto's works praise his stories, characters and writing, except Saekano that is viewed as inferior haremshit.

Really makes you think.

>>158796254
Basically this >>158795432. Megumi would have gone down the same route if the plot decided Tomoya still loved Eriri after all their heartbreaks, because she was the one who took action, she was the catalyst of events for much of the story and re-enabled Eriri's chances with Tomoya by recruiting her and Utaha for the circle. In that scenario, her own actions would have caused Eriri and Tomoya to fall in love all over again after spending time together and getting closer. Eriri would have been backed by plot armor so even if she fucked up multiples, she'd have the victory guaranteed at the end. In short, what makes it interesting is what and how much they tried to accomplish and how, the suffering is a plus.

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>>158797014
>except Saekano that is viewed as inferior haremshit.

>>158796290
I'm not that big on blog reviews, but if it's that good as some would say then translation when?

>>158797014
>I won't provide my sources

>>158797122
>remove atrocious MC
>get good reviews

Really stimulates your neurons.

>>158797079
That just means Tomoya is a better MC than faggot Haruki.

>>158796168
Nonsense.
That rant was provoked by Utaha to let Eriri vent her frustration, she didn't do that in front of Megumi or Tomoya.
It's like you never have a bad day.

>>158796219
You didn't understand that scene or you're just shitposting.

>>158797282
You didn't understand it either if you think that Utaha thinks Eriri is better or the best.

>>158797079
Yeah, I didn't disagree with that. The meta perspective that we have as the audience with knowledge about plot formula, cliches, tropes, plot armor, and general rules that one would apply for the protagonist and main heroines makes it easy for us to branching routes/paths if things were switched up or not.

Anyhow, I kind like the subtle message Maruto left about how the heroine who gets beaten up most/suffered most tends to be seen as interesting.

>>158797228
It was pretty much Eriri complaining about how she doesn't get Tomoya at all, akin to that scene.

>>158796168
Hatoko actually tried to go with MC though, she just lacked the inclination towards anime to actually succeed.

Eriri had that and still rejected him.

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>come to the changing room with me

>>158797463
>Anyhow, I kind like the subtle message Maruto left about how the heroine who gets beaten up most/suffered most tends to be seen as interesting.
It worked with WA2, but not in Saekano. People still sympathize with Utaha better as a "tragic" heroine and of course, Megumi was what interested the most to most readers since the beginning.

>>158796168
That makes no sense. Eriri wasn't screaming nor ranting via outburst. Utaha kept pushing her buttons to force her out of her comfort zone so she can talk about thing she normally wouldn't talk about. The obvious goal is emotional catharsis and to allow Eriri to move on. Utaha had some good points, but also points that are questionable and or perhaps wrong as Eriri rebukes back.

>>158796244
Not even close. Tomoyo > Hatoko by miles.

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>>158797657
Nope. Hatoko > Mirei > Chifuyu > Sayumi > Tomoyo

>>158797756
Tomoyo is objectively better in all ways and is the perfect match for Andou and vice versa. You can't argue with that.

Tomoyo > Chifuyu > Kuki > Mirei > Sayumi > Hatoko

>>158797645
I still don't know if I can accept having the hill scene changed to a whole new date. Maybe it'll turn out better than expected.

>>158797756
Hatoko exists to make the other girls look better.

>>158796244
>Proving why Tomoyo is best girl with a bro scene as a result of cringe drama Hatoko caused
Even Eriri is better than that boring normalfag.

>>158797887
If you want to think optimistically, they're doing this so that they can just start from V11 in a S3.

>>158797648
Can't say I agree. I'm a sucker for cute girls+conflict and suffering, all of which I perceived to be moe. It also keeps things exciting and compels me to experience drama that I can only imagine and empathize to escape from reality.

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>>158797889
>is best girl
The other girls look inferior compared to her, more like.

>>158798161
Tits won't save her. Even her design is bland and so is her powers, which is completely redundant and the weakest among the cast.

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>Tomoya, you jerk.

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>>158798552
What is she thinking about in this scene?

>>158797379
I'm not the one saying that is saying that Utaha is pitying Eriri when is clear that she likes and what she dod is for Eriri sake.

>>158797468
The point of that scene is not about if she understand or not Tomoya it's about letting her vent and move on.

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>Maruto keeps making Eriri more unlikeable and Megumi more annoying while Utaha keeps becoming even more best

KM must have had its effect on him.

>>158798815
>Eriri is best girl, Utaha agrees don't bother her.
Your own words. By that logic then what I said is true too.

>>158799073
Care to explain?

>>158799073
Or he's talking about >>158788731?

>>158799397
Utaha took a slap for Eriri and also thinks she suffered the most.

>>158799011
are utahafags this delusional?

>>158799811
he's right about Eriri

>>158798715
Happiness.

>>158798062
Well, that's also a thing. V9 felt got dragged for the sake of making it longer. But V10 is essential for a closure for Utaha and a Dark Megumi goodness

>>158800521
Utaha never gets closure in the LN. If anything, V10 is needed to establish contact between Akane and Tomoya.

>>158800883
Then, what was it?

>Eriri gets BTFO in the anime
>Megumi gets BTFO in vol 13 and the end of Saekano novels, which are actually canon
Pottery.

Did anyone really expect Eriri not to take losing Tomoya romantically to Megumi incredibly hard?

>>158799011
>Utahafags are this delusional

>>158794904
>>158786259
yea this is what i don't get, everyone saying eriri and utaha "lost"
are you kidding me? they won so fucking hard. how can you not feel bad for kato ending up with a fucking autist while they go out and chase their dreams and find enormous success?

>>158801299
>Eriri gets BTFO in the anime
>Megumi gets BTFO in vol 13 and the end of Saekano novels
Stop writing fanfics, Utahafag.

>>158801299
Volume 13 will be Eriri's win. GS3 only reinforces this in my eyes.

>>158801417
No, it was super obvious something happened behind the scenes of V12 that made Eriri give up.

>>158801515
GS3.

>>158801499
I meant that Eriri wins vol 13. She is the real heroine. Megumifags are getting a consolation prize and they are actually happy with it.

>>158801504
Me too. I feel pretty good.

Didn't Maruto say he was going to write spin-off material because the last novel might piss some people off?

Wonder what will happen.

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>>158786259
>Eriri a shit is now cannon
Best timeline.

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>>158801565
>It's Yuipollfag

>>158801504
The only thing she will win is a fat lesbian lover.

>>158801584
>now
>when GS3 her better
Dumb pig poster.

>>158801576
Megumifags get asshurt because they didn't understand the story.

>>158801602
Megumi will win her cousin or an old man for enjo kousai.

>>158801625
made her*

>>158801576
No, he said he'd write spin-off material for "political reasons" (read: shekels), or, in a more positive light, to keep up interest for a S3.

>>158801584
>now
Who was worst girl before?

>>158801666
Utaha. She still is worst girl.

>>158801625
>>158801544
>>158801504
Poor delusional fuck.

>>158801625
>>158801655
Only in your Eririfag eyes.

>>158801689
Prove me wrong.

>>158801716
You mean anyone with good taste.

>>158801685
Nope. Utaha is the only voice of reason and rationality at this point.

>>158801716
GS3 made Megumi look like a lose, over emotional whore.

>>158801771
And she was still better than erishit

>>158801771
>oh no Megumi has flaws!

>>158801504
HAHAHAH whats up yuipolfag. I demand my apology right now.

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Kato>Michiru>Utaha>Izumi>shit>Eriri
Deal with it.

>>158801584
Eriri literally did nothing wrong. If you want to be objective at all and care about faults then go shitpost Megumi seeing how GS3 put her flaws and negative traits under the spotlight.

>>158801748
Anyone with good taste doesn't give a rat ass about Eriri's self-induced drama and self-pity.

>>158801771
Maruto shat the bed hard part 2. What else did you expect?

>>158801786
You'll be begging to apologize to me when vol 13 hits.

>>158801807
She almost nothing but flaws.

>>158801807
>oh no Eriri has flaws!

>>158801824
Keep telling yourself that.

At least we all agree that Eriri a shit.

>>158801822
>Eriri dindu nuffin!
>Megumi is the one you should be hating instead!

Eririfags are pathetic.

>>158801869
We agreed Utaha was shit a long time ago.

>>158801869
Nope. Eriri a best.

>>158801864
Keep being a lone Eririfag who will never convince anyone of his delusions.

>>158801878
>shitpost about how "Eririfags and Megumifags are bros"
>as soon as it's convenient they dump Megumifags under the bus

The turd I made a today is a better girl than eriri

>>158801878
>Eriri really didn't do anything wrong in GS3, but I'll going to shitpost her to the ground because she said that I did nothing wrong meme xD
>Look at me being a police against flaws and faults ,but I'll ignore Megumi just because
Hurr durr.

>>158801940
Only retards believed the obvious samefagging Eririfag pretending to like Megumi and trying to make allies out of them. Like they did with Utahafags back in the day.

Eririfags will never stop being disliked by Megumifags and Utahafags for shit like this.

>>158801818
No Eririfag should apologize for anything.

>>158786259
Her pain was self-inflicted. With a personality like hers, she was destined to lose from the very beginning.

>>158801878
Except he isn't wrong. Way to ignore his point that mocks you who pretends to call out negative traits when you conveniently ignore Megumi.

>>158801940
>putting words int my mouth
Fuck off. It's you who should be shitposting Megumi.

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So what are Eriri's options now that she lost.
blackmail?
Murder?
prostitution?

>>158801940
>>158801994
Samefag.

>>158801975
>still thinks Megumi is a normalfag and that's why Tomoya shouldn't choose her
>still thinks she didn't do anything wrong and Tomoya is at fault for her failure, thus remaining static as a character
>is called out by Utaha for being selfish and unreasonable

>did nothing wrong

And no one is praising Megumi either. Most of the opinions about her in GS3 are already negative, dumbass.

>>158801994
>Only retards believed the obvious samefagging Utahafags pretending to like Megumi and trying to make allies out of them. Like they did with Eririfags back in the day.

>Utahafags will never stop being disliked by Megumifags and Utahafags for shit like this nowadays.

I can say the same shit too.

Eriri dindu nuffin!

>>158802084
>>still thinks she didn't do anything wrong and Tomoya is at fault for her failure, thus remaining static as a character
>missed the part where she realizes she was wrong
>>Most of the opinions about her in GS3 are already negative, dumbass.
>every single review on amazon is a five star and praises GS3 while people on 2ch can't stop talking about how cute Megumi is

>>158786259
lmfao she stabbed tomoya in the back and pretended he didnt exist for the longest time. she can fucking die in a hole for all i care.
Kato best girl
Utaha okay girl

Eriri A SHIT

>>158802035
>he
Where the fuck did you get that from my post? You just replied at one generic Eriri a shit post and your butthurt is overflowing with assumptions no one made.

Stop samefagging because you're really obvious about shit that only you see.

>>158802102
>trying to apply the same for Utahafags when it doesn't apply

Fail.

>>158802072
she'll be raped by a pack of negroes

>>158802192
>Denial
Fail.

Eririfags are the worst fanbase of 2017.

>>158786259
The shit finally got flushed.

>>158786259
>Why did the girl who suffered the most have to lose?
Why did anyone have to suffer over that faggot?

Utahafags are the worst fanbase of 2017.

>>158802084
>still thinks Megumi is a normalfag and that's why Tomoya shouldn't choose her
Even Utaha thinks Megumi is a normal. Megumi was and still hasn't crossed the line to be an otaku yet..
>still thinks she didn't do anything wrong and Tomoya is at fault for her failure, thus remaining static as a character
She has never said or thought that she was wrong for hiding the fact she's an otaku. She blames Tomoya just as much Tomoya blames her. And that's the point, retard. That doesn't make her static at all and does not invalid every development she has gone through so far since they are all still valid.
>Utaha for being selfish and unreasonable
Except she didn't. Read again.

>>158801996
But you keep telling me Eriri will win. Now that she has COMPLETELY lost, you need to apologize to me.

>>158802255
It's not even remotely the same since Utahafags and Megumifags never fought and more often than not liked each other's girls as second best. Eririfags are the black sheep.

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>>158802072
She will have to deal with just being a rich, beautiful, talented and popular young girl. And best girl.

>>158802257
No, THK. No. If anything, you are the worst fanbase all by yourself. Saekano threads in recent year would be fine if you never starting up shitposting as an Utahafag. Most of the fight between Megumifags and Eririfags had already been drawn out. But you keep the war afloat and act smug like you have the higher ground for no good reason.

>>158802327
>best girl
To who? Obviously not the mc.
Maybe a hung dilf will take her as his best girl.

>>158802286
Eriri is supposed to be Megumi's best friend and yet Eriri refers to her as if she has not been knee-deep in the same damn otaku activities for over a year with an otaku like Tomoya and herself. So much for being BFF, amirite?

She literally says she didn't do anything wrong and after Utaha calls her out she can finally get some of her head out of her ass. Utaha literally says that she has done wrong, proving her wrong.

And nice job conveniently ignoring the rest of the post, since it proves your retardation wrong again.

>>158802327
>best girl
yeah to whoever pays for her body per hour

>>158802305
Eririfags and Utahafags rarely fought and more often than not like each other's girls as second best back then. Megumifags and Eririfags hardly fight each other nowadays and like each other's girls as second best. Utahafags are the Blacksheep now.

>>158802295
Wait until it actually ends shitlord.

So now that the dust has settled.
Eriri a _____.

>>158802493

Eriri a cow dung

>>158802493
poop

>>158802456
And this is how I know you're just bullshitting. Only Eririfags pretended to like Utaha as second best, keyword pretended since "they" suddenly dropped her like a rock to jump on the convenient Megumi wagon to pretend to like her instead. There's a much bigger overlap among Utaha and Megumifags and they didn't need and still don't need to pretend to be allies when that's just a natural thing. Fickle Eririfags are the opposite of that, which is why no one takes them seriously around here.

>>158802493
Fecal matter.

>>158802493
shit

>>158802433
>Eriri is supposed to be Megumi's best friend a
Weak argument. They are close friends, but that does not mean they have to know everything about each other, and they never did and don't. Try again.

>Utaha calls her out she can finally get some of her head out of her ass. Utaha literally says that she has done wrong, proving her wrong.
Nope. Utaha made conjectures and voiced her thoughts, but never affirmed that Eriri was wrong. She never affirmed that Tomoya was right either. Stop making up shit.

>nice job conveniently ignoring the rest of the post
Your other point isn't relevant to my argument with you, dumbass. But if you want a comment then no, I don't see you calling Megumi a shit and worst girl so quit acting like you've been doing that.

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>>158802493
a shit A SHIT!

>>158802493
did nothing wrong.

>>158802493
stool

So now that the dust has settled.
Utaha a _____.

>>158802613
shit

>>158802613
sort of okay

>>158802613
Goddess.

>>158802493
>THK samefagging this

Eriri will always be best.

>>158802613
best

>>158802613
piss and shit

>>158802613
best. A BEST

>>158802613
cancer.

>>158802493
manure

>>158802613
still worst girl.

>>158802613
garbage for normalfags.

>>158802613
Waifu material.

>>158802493
Shitposts and spam aside, Eriri is really second best after Megumi, to be honest.

>>158802493
stinky turd

>>158802530
>pretended
I can say Megumifags pretended to like Megumi second best too out of conveniently to look like they are allies with Megumi. You have nothing.

>>158802563
They are supposed to be each other's best friends, and yet the novel makes Utaha more worthy of that position. If Eriri can't consider Megumi as an otaku, not even a creator, like the rest of them after all this time of working on an otaku game and enjoying otaku things, then she's just dumb and ignorant. This is just basic stuff.

Utaha said she admired Eriri's mentality, but had to break it to her that she was at fault for losing and making Tomoya afraid of her. Stop ignoring this.

>Your other point isn't relevant to my argument with you, dumbass.
It's the only reason you replied, retard. You brought up Megumi out of nowhere and still are acting as if people are apologizing and whiteknighting her for her shit like you typically do for Eriri. Thankfully the only rabid and defensive autistic waifufags in this fanbase are ,Eririfags and people have no problems in calling Megumi a possessive cunt and blaming the author for how shitty the novels became.

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Hey you autistic eririfag maybe instead of samefagging this >>158802613 you should write something good about your shitty waifu here >>158802493

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>>158802493
a best. A BEST.

Fuck insufferable Utahafags hating because they are jealous.

>>158802752
Sorry, rephrase your comment since it makes no sense.

>>158802752
>>158802782
Utahafags*

Better?

>>158802780
flat

>>158802493
shit

>>158802613
goddess

>>158802493
manami

>>158802755
>They are supposed to be each other's best friends, and yet the novel makes Utaha more worthy of that position

The novels have Utaha admit that she sees Eriri as a friend for life. Eriri definitely shares that view, and to be viewed as a friend for life is beyond a typical best friend.

>people have no problems in calling Megumi a possessive cunt and blaming the author for how shitty the novels became.
>conveniently ignores the post that points out the huge positive reception in Japan

I wonder who made this post.

>>158802613
Megumifag here. Utaha sucks.

>>158802462
？ wait for what? Megumi has completely won. Let me spell it out for you. Tomoya likes her, she likes Tomoya. Literally volume 13 is how they would get together and finally finish their game. All of the conflicts of all the characters has been resolved.

>>158802768
>Implying I didn't already
Hey autistic Utahafag, how about you stop samefagging and defend your shitty waifu from being worst girl?

Because season 1 was better.

>>158802825
BUT MUH GS34502923 HURR ERIRI WILL WIN YOU WILL SEE

So now that the dust has settled.
Megumi a _____.

>>158802493
Perfection.

>>158802613
Shit.

>>158802493
diarrhea

>>158802493
still best girl.

>>158802848
best. A BEST.

>>158802794
Utahafags never pretended to like Megumi just to turn around and say Megumifags are their bros. They always got along. You can't say the same for Eririfags since they went full sperglord on Utaha after Eriri got more hate from Utahafags. Meanwhile, the seldom times a Megumfag insults Utaha or vice versa, nothing of the sort happens, and never will.

Why does /a/ hates eriri so much? Fuck you retards she doesn't deserve all this hate.

>>158802918
She's literally a shit.

>>158802918
Because she has the worst fanbase since Twilight.

>>158802918
>stabbed tomoya in the back
>pretended like he didnt exist from middle school into high school
>acted like HE was the problem
>got mad at him for not forgiving her even though she never made an attempt to apologise

gee i wonder why, anon

>>158802918
Eriri "I dindu nuffin" Sawamura is the prime example of 3DPD in 2D form.

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>>158802918
We don't hate Eriri the walking shit only the people that like her.

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じー

>>158802918
It's just THK samefagging.

>>158803003
>Eriretards actually believe this

Eriri BTFO in the novel
Eriri BTFO on /a/
Poor little girl she can't take a break.

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>>158803003
>that one autist that calls everyone THK

>>158802918
She doesn't and Eriri is still a hell of a lot better than Utaha and most other characters. Recent spoilers came out and now certain shitposters are taking it and warping it to used as ammo and shitposting privileges to spam now.

>>158803031
>Eriri gives up in tears in the LN
>Eriri sees Utaha kiss Tomoya in the anime

This is a good week. Eriri BTFO: the week.

>>158802918
Hey don't blame us for your shit taste. Blame your parents.

>>158803084
>Utaha kiss Tomoya in the anime
Most certainly not happening. They skipped the mixer dance part, they might just skip the kiss as well.

>>158802813
Yep, Utaha and Eriri always had the only meaningful relationship they have in the series. Too bad Japan isn't /a/ and people here have less tolerance for shit writing and character assassination.

>>158803130
Pre-screening spoilers confirmed the kiss will happen.

>>158802997
Go be a winner somewhere else. This is the losers thread.

>>158803133
Yes, I'd rather trust /a/, the place that doesn't know Japanese and relies on shitty summaries, over the people who actually know Japanese. I don't know why I'm even bothering arguing with the usual KM shill.

>>158802918
This thread went into sudden samefagging on all sides at max autism out of nowhere. Don't take it too seriously. Eriri is a more than decent character and she is cute. She's far from bad.

>>158803178
That's great to hear.

>>158803077
Nope. This novel solidifies Utaha as forever better than Eriri by being the mature and reasonable mentor that promotes and encourages emotional development. The only voice of reason left in the novels along with Iori after the other characters degenerated badly.

>>158802918
Sorry, I was never into self-righteous tsunderes.

>>158786259
Just deserts.

>>158802918
/a/ is not into scat.

>>158802755
Don't force your projections onto their friendship because you see it that way. Utaha is just a fellow creator and is more of a friend and enemy than a normal friend. Megumi and Eriri have their differences and understanding, but are ordinary friends who are quite close. Even a normal can do some coding and help out with some finishing touches by offering her opinion. Doesn't mean she becomes an otaku overnight. Eriri isn't even aware of what Tomoya is aware. It's not like Megumi keeps Eriri inform about that stuff. Megumi doesn't understand Eriri as a creator either and still hasn't yet. That doesn't prevent them from still being friends. Your main point is not valid.

>but had to break it to her that she was at fault for losing and making Tomoya afraid of her. Stop ignoring this.
Nope. Utaha was only trying to get Eriri to see the underlying reason she thinks Tomoya can't get too close to her. She never said Eriri was wrong or Tomoya was right. Get some reading comprehension.

>You brought up Megumi out of nowhere
That wasn't me. I only mocked you who replied to the other greentext. You didn't even actually give an argument as to why you don't shitpost Megumi like you do Eriri since you are so bothered with character flaws where even one flaw makes you rage and deem a character shit. You're even samefagging and spamming against Eriri hard draw attention away from this issue. It's so obvious.

>>158803209
This has nothing to do with me being your KM shill boogeyman or trusting /a/. Shitty summaries or awful waifuwars didn't stop fans, Megumifags especially, in the past from talking and posting about the events of the novel positively, but now the negative sentiment has grown to a point where people would rather celebrate Eriri getting BTFO out of the sheer disappointment that is everything else.

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>>158803202
Feel great being a katofag.
GET REKT LOSERS.

>>158802825
Way to miss the point. Megumi doesn't like him and Eriri's development is not done.

Megumifags are going to be on suicide watch soon.

>>158803353
You do realize that the Saekano fanbase on /a/ is tiny and that a single poster can drive out a huge number of fans, right? Literally every site that discusses Saekano that isn't /a/, Japanese or western, loves GS3. I'm more inclined to believe it's one samefagging autist that drove out much of the fanbase on /a/ than to believe people hate GS3, especially given the tiny amount of IPs and the writing style of that autist.

>>158802889
You realize that you are the one claiming bros and shit, right? I mostly bounced back faulty logic because I blatant lies and slandering. Plenty of Utahafags simply got along with Eririfags back then and used Eriri as second best to spite Megumi. You can probably say the same for Eririfags using Utaha as second too. That's basic waifu wars.

But the here and now is different because the situation has changed. Utahafags started picking fights with Eririfags and often Megumifags at at time when the latter two's fight was greatly declining. The timing of Utahafags starting fights gave rise to Eririfags now opposing Utahafags, along side some Megumifags.

>>158786259
because she literally did nothing wrong top keeek

Eriri is literally only good for bullying.

>>158803353
>doesn't denying being the KM shiller and delusional Utahafag who will say ANYTHING to shit on Saekano and promote KM because Utaha was BTFO and treated like shit in the 2nd half
He totally called you out.

>>158803428
/a/ is always different to those places. These threads are literally the same as two years ago so that's not an excuse. If people were driven out maybe it's because they lost interest and became disheartened with the series.

Time to BTFO THK.

Reposting anons stuff from the other thread.

>Eriri already has plenty of growth in the LN.
>-apologized when she is aware that she is at fault, like to Tomoya for the grudge he held, to the other members for missing the deadline.
>-became a bit more modest and less conceited by showing respect to Izumi whom she accepts as a rival in a more friendlier manner.
>-stopped caring about schoolmates at school see her be close to Tomoya
>-acknowledged that she betrayed Tomoya twice, with the second time showing awareness to him being sad and hurt
>-apologetic to Megumi and tried to take the blame even though Megumi was at fault too.

>We can also measure the growth she has with Tomoya, Megumi, and Utaha respectively. She becomes closer to each one of them to various degree and compare it to when she first started out.

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>hurr thk
>hurr km
Jesus no wonder everyone hates eriri. Her fanbase is horrid.
Too bad because she's actually a good girl.

eririfags need to be gassed

>>158803402
>Megumi doesn't like him
What stage of denial is this?

>-apologized when she is aware that she is at fault, like to Tomoya for the grudge he held
>This kinda reverses that development
>acknowledged that she betrayed Tomoya twice, with the second time showing awareness to him being sad and hurt
>She doesn't really seem to be repentant about that whatsoever
>GS3 just solidifies the fact that she has learned nothing.

And now THK getting rekt'd.
>Not really. Eriri was sincere and did all that with a unchanged belief.

>The matter here in GS3 doesn't negate that. Utaha believes that the reason was because of nine years ago. Eriri disagrees and says she didn't do wrong for going into hiding back then. To us, it's not something we can judge. We can't judge if Tomoya was right or wrong for not hiding either. Both decisions could be wrong or right, but that doesn't matter. What matters is they didn't talk to each other to discuss the problem, instead each side stuck to their own stubbornness. Tomoya wanted an apology and he got it because Eriri accepted that he was hurt and yielded to that. But the issue remains, Eriri still believes her decision was right, and so did Tomoya despite the fact he realized he was selfish and took Eriri for granted. And there is the crux of the matter: they didn't settle on that issue, but let it be water under the bridge as they made up and returned to the old days.

>The point Utaha tries to establish is the difference they have in their respective decisions and a point where Tomoya and Eriri hated each other because of the disagreement that never truly healed for Tomoya, but it did for Eriri. Utaha thinks that Tomoya subconsciously prevents himself from getting too close, probably short of true love, to Eriri in order to protect himself from feeling betrayed again, which if you think about is the same as Eriri's decision to not join him after he created the otaku kingdom in fear she would have to go through another break up and deal with bullying all over again.

>>158803556
>>158803583
>reposting my fanfics
LMAO

>>158803472
Utahafags most definitely spited Eriri than they did Megumi. And that's not the point, it's how the only situation that changed is Eririfags switching their malice from Megumi to Utaha, while Megumifags and Utahafags remain the same. Your narrative is totally contradicted in these recent threads with Eririfags using Megumi as a scapegoat to divert the hate their girl is getting since they can't use Utaha after GS3 made her be the reason Eriri gets to look good in their eyes. It's so obvious that Eririfags are fickle and treacherous. No one actually gets along with them.

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>>158802918
Eriri is best girl. Butthurt Utahafags samefagging to drag Eriri down to Utaha's level won't change that.

>>158803596
>Can't argue
>Better call it fanfic and shitpost with "LMAO"
THK, everyone.

>>158803583
>Eriri still believes her decision was right

That's wrong, she's lost all her persuasive power in saying that by the end.

>>158803578
*fag, it's only one guy who keep calling everyone THK

>>158803649
>Can't argue
>better call him THK and start spamming bullshit
LMAO

Utahafags are the worst.

>>158803678
Utahafags are now worse than cancerous Irohafags. What a feat.

>>158803672
>THK is this retarded
Nice stall tactics.

>>158803337
You don't need to be super intimate to be able to tell a coworker, not even a friend, already shares the same hobbies as you. It gets worse when you remember Eriri is supposed to be her best friend and they have worked on the same otaku-oriented project for over a year. My point is pretty valid.

Utaha said Eriri was at fault for losing Tomoya, hence she was wrong about doing nothing wrong for losing him.

And I've actually called Megumi a possessive cunt as well, but no one jumped at my throat like you Eririfags do all the time in defense of your waifu, so there was no need to reinforce the point. I've seen you Eririfags doing the same as well.

>>158803402
>Megumi doesn't like him

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh?????????????????????????

>>158803689
Iroha a shit.

Utaha a shit.

>>158803726
All the bullying and losing is really affecting the poor eririfags.
He's probably going to call you THK next. Just ignore him.

Utaha > Megumi > Michiru > Izumi >>>>> Eriri

>>158803769
but he(yuipolfag) owes me an apology. I need him to apologize to me.

>>158803654
Context. She was wavering only cause she was in shock and upset at the things Utaha said to her. But in the end Eriri stood by it. Utaha got tired and arguing since he will go nowhere, so she changed the topic to discuss about Megumi.

>>158803556
>>158803583
>If I pretend only THK has ever hated and criticized my girl, and repost my essays on how Eriri is a super duper awesome character that can't be hated or criticized, maybe it'll become true someday

>>158803402
>Yuipollfag
As annoying and deluded as you are, THK a hundred times worse than you. In a way, you're almost amusing.

>>158803869
>muh boogeyman

>>158803840
>second reply and still can't come up with a well thought out argument
Sad.

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lol why is everyone so mad?

>>158803754
Iroha > Yui > Haruno > Komachi > Rumi > Ebina > Saika >>>> Yukino

Utaha > Mayu > Megumi > Michiru > Izumi >>>> Eriri

Eriri > Megumi > Izumi > Michiru > Utaha

Fact.

>>158803942
>Eriri above anyone

No.

>>158803922
Yukino > Komachi = Rumi > Haruno = Orimoto > Yui > Yumiko > Shizuka > Saki > Meguri > Ebina >>>>>> Iroha

Eriri > Megumi > Mayu > Izumi > Michiru >>>>> Utaha

>>158803942
>>158804000
Same shittaste

>>158803556
>So Eriri believes she didn't do wrong because it's her belief that hiding one's powerlevel is not a bad thing versus displaying one's powerlevel openly to the public which is what Tomoya belief. That's where their differences lie.

>Do people think Eriri's personal belief there is wrong, or is Tomoya's personal belief the wrong one? Be honest and stay objective.

Why didn't THK answer this question in that thread?

Yukino > Haruno > Komachi > Saki > Yui = Rumi > Iroha > Shizuka > Ebina > Orimoto

Utaha > Megumi > Eriri > Michiru > Izumi

>>158804037
>Same
Great detective skills there, Sherlock.

My taste > your shit taste

>>158804085
>likes yuckyno and erishit best

no

>>158803913
Eriri literally says she did nothing wrong and refuses to go back on it.

>>158804057
Because doing so would undermine most of the shitposting and samefagging he was and still is doing.

Is the Eriri manga still going? Maruto might just have Tomoya end up with all 3 of them to avoid the hate in all honesty.

>>158804057
>>158804128
>eriritard is so sad he starts talking to himself

>>158804128
>>158804057
The only obvious samefagging is coming from you.
Not everyone who doesn't like your waifu is "THK"

>>158804159
>>158804169
>t. THK
Nope. But nice butthurt and good job ignoring that.

>>158803869
Yuipollfag is pretty harmless and kinda fun to see him try in an underdog kind of way.

On the flip side someone like THK brings out the worst in a fanbase. This thread is a shining example and it is worse than our usual threads which are already considered bad enough to deem Saekano worst fanbase around.

>>158804145
It got axed since no one gave a shit about it.

>>158804194
>>158804212
>more samefagging

>>158803922
>>158804107
Shit taste as usual, THK.

>>158804194
Check the times before calling samefag autist.

>that one autist that keeps calling everyone THK

It's like in a Madoka thread.

>>158804223
Huh. 2/3 ain't so bad then.

>>158804223
>samefagging
Nah. But nice try.

Eriri a shit

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>>158804270
>one
There are plenty of anons who are aware of THK. You can drop the act.