Dragon Ball Super

>>158761193
Because it was fucking LEGENDARY

>having ningen blood

>>158761654
Cue that bird screeching "I'm a fuckin' legend"

>>158761193
I think it was his ki.

His power was maximum

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>>158761193
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

>>158761193
OP why did you censor her boobs?

>>158761193
It was just his blood and ki being all cool.

But here is the reason.

Green is the color past Yellow. Thus, Green is Stronger, and Cool. The end.

>>158761712
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRRIjOkzHPM

>>158761823
Yes.

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I enjoy these threads and Super!

>>158761718
Vegeta asked Piccolo back in Buu arc on whether he could fight with carrotman in afterlife and Piccolo properly laid out the truth for him.
He also actually asked for a concede instead of a free win against Frost's foul play since he knew Vegeta wanted to kick that Frieza look-a-like shit in.

>>158761193
His blood and hair turned green when he went legendary and his pupils disappear.
They should bring him back

>>158761854
Me too, buddy. Me too. Despite what the tribals screech.

So shit if Goku went back in time to right before the 21st Budokai, what would he even teach his kid self? Super Saiyan for sure. Probably not Kaioken. Instant Transmission is almost a given for the sheer bullshit of a kid Goku having it. Can't think of anything else just yet.

>>158761923
spirit bomb
flight

>>158761923
>Biting is your most powerful technique! Use it wisely though, some things taste pretty bad.

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How strong will he be now that he is freed from his mortal desire?

>>158761986
Would he teach Spirit Bomb? Flight I just kind of figure was a given. I figured he'd save it for when he meets King Kai. But then, if he never dies, he never has to, unless Goku introduces them by taking kid him there. God that'd be fucking surreal.

Comedy Option: he teaches him hakai

>>158761193
>American voice of frieza got the japanese flu
>American frieza is dying
pls no

>>158762058
JUST strong enough to pull tow with the rest of U7 in this tourney, before he dies the final time.

I am so hype to see Roshi shine for one last throw.

>>158762066
th-this i-is f-fake r-right???

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Spoilers for upcomg episodes.

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>yfw for each episode of the tournament, they focus on one Z warrior for a chunk of it, showing them fight while doing an inner monologue as they recount their life from Goku to now, and what this all means to them, knowing they're probably going to be erased

>>158761854
I don't even watch the anime but I still come here because it's fun

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>>158762173
He has COPD and final stage emphysema. He'll have to get a double lung transplant.

>>158762277
not even your dubba-dubs can trick me freizy

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>>158762277

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>>158762277
>>158762299
>>158762355
the energy just keeps rising

amazing

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>>158762445
He is so cute

Am I the only one happy to see that Goku and Vegeta actually learned something with Whis? Without they would never being able to go God at will, same for Blue and Goku even learned Hakai

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>>158762517
Mai won a fucking lottery she has absolutely no comprehension of with how her life has turned out

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>>158762540
>vegeta hair
>saiyan tail

>>158762520
I'm starting to get nervous wondering how in the hell they're going to get this to work with that many fighters not yet even seen.

>>158762540
>that little monstrosity
You have to be very unlucky to come out so damn ugly even though your parents are good looking.

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>>158762596
A very cute kid with very good parents, and a bright future.

...if U7 doesn't fuck up this tournament.

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>>158762639
holy shit female saiyans were the miracle of the universe

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>>158762631
This one is much cuter

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Shh... the little Torankusu is sleeping

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>>158762733
Cute!

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>>158762700
fucking hell Future Trunks

what is your life

can Kid Trunks even compare trapped in a perpetual border-pubescent 6 year old form by way of curse

The second him and Mai hit History of Trunks levels of growth and sudden aging, they are going to fuck like MONSTERS

>>158762733
I genuinely hope Future Trunks is taken back in time at the end of the manga timeline. That'd make it worth it.

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>>158762769
>that palette for Shu's clothes
It's based on the Kanzenban one?

>>158762841
if only she knew

also can I say something, I love all the color fuckups in Dragon Ball because I fucking love seeing alt-color takes on anything, even shitty ones, especially when you gotta see them mono-palette same for years on end

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>>158762836
I hope so too anon. Repopulation jokes aside, it would be stupid if he stays in the destroyed future alone with Mai

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>>158762938
>Manga End
>Trunks and Mai stay in the dead earth future, the universe is not deleted
>They instead take a ship out
>On a Grand Tour

>>158762066
will they bring linda young back?

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>>158762807
>Vegeta fucking things up
>Torankusu's immediate reaction is to run up to Mai and hump her

>>158763121
Why is everyone so cute in the manga?

>>158763155
To soften the nightmare of the one Hell that is erasure from existence.

>>158762066
Give him your energy and pray for his health
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw

What is Vados doing RIGHT NOW?

>>158763261
Thinking about how fucked Champa and his universe are

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>>158763274
Vados is fucking Champa while thinking how fucked Champa is so this is pretty intense fucking for the final time as Champa thinks how fucked he is while getting this fucked.

>>158763311
wait do they actually fuck?

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>>158763335
Fucked if I know.

>Frost and Freeza are going to plot something
>They'll inevitably betray each other

meh

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Reminder Gamma Burst Flash is based

>>158763379
I hope we see it, or an alternate, at the tournament. It was about time he stepped up the tech game a little.

>>158763351
Beerus a cute

>>158762184
>Gohan is team leader

THE TIME HAS COME

>>158763467
>U7 wins or some happier resolution
>But Beerus is stripped of his divine status
>it turns out he was just a house cat they had liked and elevated to godhood on a whim

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I really love these 3 panels

So is Zamasu actually dead? If so how did it happen, the Hakai thing doesn't seem to be the end.

>>158763635
For all the hate, I actually really like the series too. It has a nice look of horror as he realizes what's happening, and the idea of just fading way into sand as you cease to exist is fucking creeping me out.

>>158763635
Goku learning hakai was a mistake.

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so what happens in the future with 2 trunks and 2 mai? do they just take a random pick or do you think the original 2 and the previous 2 stick with each over? 2 trunks vs 1 mai?
2 mai vs 1 trunks?
4 way?
fusion?

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>>158763717
I know who's behind this post...

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>>158763744
Screaming, screaming, everything you ever were just gone in seconds, just as you realize it's happening. The sand doesn't even remain as a memoram. It just dusts away.

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>>158763717
Can we stop caring if it was a mistake or not and just move on?

Like shit, what we all gonna say if Goku uses it in the anime against an angel or something retarded?

Or even WORSE?

>>158763874
>>158763717
i haven't read the manga but is it such a big deal? Goku tried to copy the hakai but it didn't really work anyway right?

>>158761193
Can someone post the new golden frieza transformation in webm format? I really need it.

>>158763920
It'll pass.

>>158763920
it was hype as fuck, it sure as hell beats the joke hakai baseballs from the anime.

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>My favorite character will never get to have real fun because his powerset is so blatantly unfair

I just wanted to see him merk som other universe while they helplessly tried to deal with him, in the same way Vegeta did vs kid buu

>>158762173
sadly not, he wrote a post about it on his facebook

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>>158762199
>Man I hate Goku
>Fuck that guy

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>>158761193
My theory and defense of LSSJ > SSJ2 is that Goku's punch alone didn't kill Broly. It just created an internal chain reaction in his body which caused Broly's own ki to blow up his body. Basically like the Death Star, it wasn't one torpedo that destroyed the station, it was targeting an energy source that created a reaction.

Main proof is the fact that the movie takes a good minute or more to show Broly had to stop curbstomping the DBZ warriors to vent out all the ki that was "Overflowing" in his body.

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>>158763995
Thanks man.

>>158762066
Can we still get old grandma witch Frieza's voice or is she dead now?

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>>158761823
>straya
I might have known

just read the manga and its fucking great, that 1 anon complaining about it every thread is way off its pretty good

>>158764070
She's still alive, and I think she did a recent appearance with the Japanese Freeza VA

I hope Chris pulls through though, he's perfect for an english Freeza

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>best boy
>gets no fanart
Why must the world be this way

>>158764236
he looks like a middle aged house wife

>>158762037
What do you think Buu tastes like?

>>158764258
I want him so fucking bad

>>158763999
There's always the manga. Shit, it might have Future Trunks.

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>>158762037
>Kid Goku learns fusion

Reminder that Gohan jobbed to Krillin, piccolo and Tien.

>>158763261
spying on Cabba

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>>158764325
I doubt it, mainly because I want Toyotaro to draw Golden Frieza

>>158764429
so who is she fucking on the regular?

Hit, Cabba, Champa?

>>158764456
Anon. It might have BOTH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1nDf5JETLs

Can we admit that this video is much superior to both anime and manga?

This fight should have been like this.

>>158764534
cant be serious, stick fighting is some 1999 shit fucking as old as newgrounds.com type shit get out of here

I would probably count the manga version as superior IF Trunks got a poweboost in it, he's my favourite character and him being sidelined is the main reason why I like the anime more.

I like both anime and manga. Both have their own strengths and weaknesses.
Feels good, man.

>>158761193
Only ningen saiyans have red blood.

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>>158764690
Wrong

So at this point is there even much of a chance of Vegeta remaining a relevant character? I mean in the Anime Goku has Kaio-Ken which puts him leagues ahead of Vegeta already and now he is achieving a new form which will likely be far stronger than even that, not to mention other characters like Gohan and Frieza have mentioned that they want to or will be going beyond their limit with Gohan wanting to find his own path. So at this point what the hell could Vegeta even do to stay relevant, especially if Frieza stays alive after this as Goku's greatest adversary? seriously it feels as if Vegeta is about to go the route of Piccolo in favour of other characters.

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>Freiza
>Wished back to life
>When offered, he had to pause to consider
>No, he says, the Earth's dragon balls will do.
>He had to consider.
>Because then Namek is next door for a quick few more wishes maybe immortality
>PLUS whatever he steals from the Supers

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Reminder that androids being stronger than Frieza doesn't make any fucking sense also Androids being stronger in "our" timeline and the ones in F.Trunks one being weaker makes even fucking less sense and the whole android/cell saga was absolute garbage and only edgy autistic kids or mentally challenged people like it

>>158764873
>Androids being stronger in "our" timeline and the ones in F.Trunks one being weaker makes even fucking less sense
Happily that's not a thing, Salagir.

>>158764873
>also Androids being stronger in "our" timeline and the ones in F.Trunks one being weaker makes even fucking less sense
That's just fault of the anime staff being stupid. In the manga, Trunks' backstory chapter makes it very clear they were just holding back. 17 used less than half of his power against Gohan, besides the time he killed him. Trunks thought that he could keep up with 17 when reached Gohan's level. So, he never could really keep up with him at all, before the RoSaT training.

remember when Trunks said 19 and 20 were attacking his future, but then acted like he didn't know who they were

>>158764873
>and the whole android/cell saga was absolute garbage and only edgy autistic kids or mentally challenged people like it

Wait, people like that shit arc?

why didn't Ginyu just switch bodies with Frieza

>>158765066
I mean you see Cell and SSJ2 Gohan spam everyfuckingwhere in this threads

>>158764818
At least they still have each other

>>158764795
Wrong again. That's not a real god. Just some ningen borrowing the power of one. Broly was born a god.

>>158765036
don't think he ever mentioned their numbers.

>>158765351
That's wrong

>>158765155
Anon...

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>>158765351

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>Why are you recording my lines first, Sabat?

>>158764940
>>158764936
>>158764940

No it's because toriyama is a hack and the first 4 androids were shit final bosses so his based editor had to stop an end to his retardation and made him write cell.

>>158762184
>that synopsis for 96
No shit they'd have trouble with motherfucking Freeza around. Still best member.

That episode sounds like it's pretty much padding also.

>>158765706
>"Freeza, when my Piccolo baits Toppo you flank him and knock him off the stage by surprise"
>"Fuck off I'm doing my own thing"

>"Vegeta, then you do it"
>"No I'm fighting head on then fighting Kakarot"

>"......Dad?"
>"Sorry Gohan, gotta fight strong guys haha"

>>158765769
Gohan will job in the first minute. They will pick up someone to lead. Probably rishi or Tien.

>>158765769
You can switch Freeza and Vegeta's replies around too and you pretty much would have nailed how the ToP will go for Team 7.

Mangastream's translation was better than Viz's this month. wtf?

>>158761923
He'd teach him everything. SSJ, Kaioken, Teleportation, SSG, SSB, Hakai..

>>158766263
Post Viz

>>158764534
Fucking grow up.

>>158764236
>>gets no fanart
Fucking honestly, how the fuck even. He's objectively one of the prettiest boys in all of DB too, you'd think fanart of him would be way more abundant than it actually is.

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Saiyans were a mistake.
Probably the worst thing the gods ever made.

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>>158766441
t. freezer

>>158766263
>YOU MOTHERFUCKER!
Nah.

Though there's one thing about Viz's translation
>translated "Hakai" as "Begone" when Beerus used it first
>translated it as "Destruction" now when Goku used it even though he called it Beerus' technique
Think they'll fix this for the volume?

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Why is Jiren so pissed off, /a/?

>>158766502
YOU MOTHERFUCKER was the only thing wrong
But they used better dialogue for everything else. Like Zamasu cursing himself for using ningen tactics, engraving it into his being
Or the messed up font when they were fighting the defusion
Or even Vegeta cursing Zamasu for grabbing Mai, while in the Viz version he's calling Goku an idiot for sparing Mai

>>158766534
Who isn't angry when dealing with Simian apes? Saiyans were a mistake

>>158766282
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By3AAjuvowlYU3A0WG1yTngyeWM

>>158764608
He's always been my favorite character but I prefer the manga. I don't care about power levels or any of that so I'm fine if he doesn't get a power up for me

>>158763740
They just stick with their own husbando/waifu because they're pure

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No video game will ever follow the Super manga.

>>15876719

Frieza will job to Cabba.

>>158762066
I can't believe Frieza is (almost) fucking dead
>>Frieza
This is the Funi dub VA

>>158766795
Thanks

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I just remembered Freeza doesn't have God Ki at all and is doing all this off of normal Ki.

>>158767665
He's a freak of nature. He must be Hakai'd.

>>158767665
>>158767693
>not giving God Ki to Freeza for the tournament

>>158762066
>>158762277
Man, I don't follow the 'merican dub at all but from what little I've listened of his Freeza, it's actually pretty good. Reading his post on FB also, makes me feel bad for the guy, he's had it really rough. Hopefully he'll be able to get those transplants in time.

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>>158764325
>>158764501
I really hope so

How strong are Zen-o's guards? More importantly, why would some one omnipotent need guards? It would make sense if they were servants or butlers or something, but they literally never leave his side.

>>158767723
Can you link his post about it? I can't find it on his Facebook page at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIoIeO5lfeM

cuckdom still in denial about fake leaks

>>158767784
Zen-o's pretty much a child, if you just leave him alone, odds are he'll have a temper tantrum and blow shit up. They're likely there to make he won't do shit like that however incompetent they actually are.

>>158767873
Cuckdom aside, have the names of the episodes after the coming one been leaked yet?

>>158763545
>mindset of gohanfags
>Only read "Gohan is Team Leader"
>Somehow completely blanks out the fact that it also states he's a miserable failure at it and everybody refuses to work together

>>158765835
I'm expecting this to happen at the moment. Nobody really likes Gohan in Japan and he causes ratings to tank, he's been written as inconsistent, incompetent and indecisive and fails to deal with any task that's given to him without help, and pretty sure the writers are aware of how abrasive and toxic fans of the character are to other fans of the series.

>>158763028

No. He's been recast though. They do a perfect 1:1 impression.

Why the fuck would Goku make Gohan the team leader when:

1. It's been years since he fought on a consistent basis so he's probably still rusty
2. He has nowhere near the battle experience of others on the team
3. He doesn't have the tough personality required to be leader

It should have been either Vegeta or Piccolo.

O

MY

GODLY

HAKAI

>>158768837
so they could prove once again that the writers are complete retards just like the audience

>>158768837
do you think goku thought things through? he just threw gohan a bone for getting back in the game

>>158768912
>>158768933
>>158768936
>>158768947
Kill yourself.

>>158768972
u mad?

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>>158768912
>>158768933
>>158768936
>>158768947
>>158769002

>>158767873
sad

>>158768837

He's got glasses he's smart.

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>>158768912
>>158768933
>>158768936
>>158768947
Sugoi!!

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Volume 4 when?

Goku probably knew that having a Team Captain wouldn't make any difference for a team that wouldn't listen to team captain anyway, he was pretty much throwing Gohan a bone.

Why Gohan was actually dumb enough to accept this bone without questioning it is just further proof that Gohan / or the writers are idiots, as of the last 2 episodes I'm more inclined to believe that Gohan is the idiot here.

>>158769359
Delete this RIGHT FUCKING NOW you fucking shitstain.

Gohan's strategies will be what carries the team to victory. Even if his upgraded mystic form doesn't make him the strongest on the team (and it will), his strats will utterly btfo everyone. Gohan is mentally and physically the strongest character as we've seen time and time again since he wrecked Raditz.

>>158769517
>stay in the centre strategy
even shin called him out on that garbage

>>158768453
That's typical of them.

Why do people say Piccolo is black?

>>158769655
because blacks want a father like piccolo

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Based team leader

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Jiren is a red herring, the real antagonist of the tournament will be from U6's Earth.

>>158769655
Piccolo is the multi-cultural aspect of the Z team without the Nips having to draw a Blackie.

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>>158768837
It't a show of good faith you fucking retard.

>>158761923
Why no the Kaio-ken? Goku's enough of a madman to do it.

>>158769974
>It's a show of good faith
Yeah, that always works out so well for Goku, huh. Like the time he put faith in the kids to stop Majin Buu, or the time he put faith in Gohan the first time to take out Cell but he ended up having to clean up his stupid son's mess.

Either Goku is an idiot, or he's just treating Gohan like a charity case because he knows how much of a shitter he is and he's trying to boost his low self-esteem.

>>158770050
>he's just treating Gohan like a charity case
Bingo.

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>>158770050
No shit. Goku is a fucking idiot and he wants Gohan to feel good about himself. What he did was a very Goku thing.

>>158769655

He feels like a stern black man.

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>>158770247
Fuck.

>>158769287
Probably around October

>>158769655
He's the dad from Boyz n the Hood.

>>158765197
The fuck are you talking about? He gets beaten by mortals multiple times.

>>158762277
There is very little reason for me to continue waiting for the english dub if the voice of Frieza dies, he was so good

Why did Goku refuse to be wished back to earth after Namek blew up again?

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>>158764236
I want to get drunk off of wine with Whis.
I want to go to a dance club with him and douse him with body glitter

>>158770631
He didn't want to see his failure of a son

>>158770631
Toriyama was gonna pass the torch but ended up not having the balls to go through with it.

>>158770721
But that was during the Cell arc that the torch was being passed to Gohan, at the end of the Freeza saga that doesn't really make sense.

>>158770795
He was setting the stage, making it apparent that a new hero would have to take the reigns eventually.

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Reminder

>>158764134
I absolutely LOVE his Frieza
I am extremely gay for his Frieza

>>158770960
No, toyocuck.

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http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/

>The two Zamasu may have merged on a cellular level because asspulls
>Black didn't die when he got stabbed because immortal asspulls
>Merged Zamasu can make clones of himself even though he doesn't exist anymore because asspulls
>Goku can use fucking Hakai because Mary Sue asspulls

God, the new chapter is shit. And I say this as a mangafag.

>>158771071
>And I say this as a mangafag
Sure (You) do.

I don't understand the hakai meme. What difference does it make if it didn't work?

What if I like the anime and the manga?

>>158771061
I don't see what's wrong with the piccolo vs 17 bit, that was actually the best part of that saga.

>>158771155
Well it was working, but Goku stopped because he would've deleted Mai as well.

>>158771114
>a-anyone who doesn't think the new chapter is the best thing ever isn't really a manga fan!
This is why no one takes you idiots seriously. You can't accept criticism without sperging out or insisting that anyone who doesn't think the manga is perfect is just a false-flagging Toeishill.

>>158771236
Who the fuck cares? Delete one ningen and save the multiverse or be a retarded bleeding heart ningen and let her live for another few minutes before the multiverse is destroyed.

>Whis stated Goku has the potential to become a God of destruction
>Goku learns a God of destruction technique
>IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

Desperate Toei shills

>>158770960
Do you finally achieve Super Headcanon God Super Headcanon?

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>Trunks and Goten are supposed to be older than Gohan when he defeated Cell

Goten was 8 in the buu saga and trunks is 1 year older, and at least 5 years have passed during super, so they should be 13 and 14.

Gohan was 10 (9+1 on the time chamber) on the Cell saga.

>>158771317
he did, but he's still holding back

>>158771315
Learning it and being able to use it aren't the problem. Having it pulled straight from his asshole is the problem. If you weren't a fucking retard who can't handle criticism of the manga you would understand that.

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>>158771315
>Whis stated Goku has the POTENTIAL to become a God of destruction
>Goku pulls a God of destruction technique out of his ass without any mention of training, or even at the very least by imitation
>IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

FTFY

What was your favorite episode of the Society Survival Saga?

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> Goku pulls out a God of Destruction technique out of his asshole
> This is okay

> Trunks pulls out a Saiyan Saga-tier technique out of his ass
> FUCKING TOEI!!!!!!

It's Okay When Toyo Does It™

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>>158767197
Xenoverse 3 will have 4 parallel quests, and that's it.

>>158771404
>IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
>He says while posting that shitty Mary sue U6 Saiyan top kek

>>158771491
This. They were both shit.

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>>158771491
It's Okay When Toyo Does It™

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>>158770960
YES

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>>158771491
>>158771522
It's Okay When Toyo Does It™

>>158771547
No, Gohanpedo.

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>>158771491
Can't speak for anyone else but my problem wasn't his clones in particular but rather that he was a boring character who suddenly got stronger when ever he was losing and how he made Vegeta's RoTaS training completely pointless simply by stabbing his hand, Pic related.

>>158771282
>literal pasta
Pathetic.

>>158771448
Goku promoting his son to executive only for him to propose retarded business plans that every other company also easily could have thought of

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>>158771491
>>158771522
>>158771558
It's Okay When Toyo Does It™

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>>158771364

>>158771571
>pasta
Whatever you need to tell yourself, anon.

>>158771558
>asspull powerup vs sneak attack
Why are Toei shills so desperate? Why didn't Trunks powerup during the year he was constantly fighting Black or when his mother and waifu(appeared to) died?

>>158771501
Shadman needs to draw her
Now

>>158771491
>>158771522
>>158771558
What's wrong with toeishills and repost debunked stupid memes?

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>>158771566
YES

>>158771595
Are you actually this retarded?

>>158771501
What's her powerlevel?

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>>158770960
So what is Emerald Ki?

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>>158771590

>>158771522

>Anime
>Black>>>Vegeta>>Goku>Zamasu
>Goku>>Merged Zamasu>>Vegeta and Trunks
>powering Merged Zamasu in a clash of power

>Manga
>Goku>>Vegeta>>Black>>>>>>>>>>>Zamasu
>Goku=Merged Zamasu
>Sneak attack

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>>158771568
>suddenly got stronger when ever he was losing
Zenkai has been a thing since DBZ

And the Zenkai boost Goku got in Namek doesn't compare

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What the fuck is it with the rabid Toyo fans? If you criticize one single thing about the manga, they lose their collective shit and try to refute said criticism, even if by doing so they have to engage in the most absurd mental gymnastics. Why are they so obsessed with the manga literally being flawless? Not a single fucking piece of fiction is without its flaws. Even rabid anime fans admit that the anime is more often than not a piece of shit. So why? Why are they so triggered by criticism?

>>158771595
> posting stale pasta response that has been debunked

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SSG really needs to go back to being the metagame in Super. If it was just an obscene power boost like in BoG is one thing but now it has fucking healing powers, the ability to both intentionally and unintentionally HAKAI and who knows what else. That shit needs to be expounded upon.

>>158771676
Except it wasn't Zenkai though, for Zenkai you need to be on the brink of death and than HEALED with didn't happen to Black.

>>158771683
>try to refute said criticism
What is wrong with this? You're not allow to criticize criticism?

>they have to engage in the most absurd mental gymnastics.
I think you have them mistaken for Toei shills.

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>Viz chapter is out
>another toeishills' sperg episode

>>158771311
Are you seriously asking that?

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I enjoy both the manga AND the anime.

And Xenvoerse.

>>158771637
>Tournament starts after this episode
>We still haven't seen Smugpup
How hard will he job /a/

>>158771683
>they have to engage in the most absurd mental gymnastics

But Goku learned Hakai off-screen!

WHIS SAID GOKU HAS POTENTIAL!!

>>158771768
Good job ignoring the rest of the post. There's nothing wrong with attempting to refute criticism, but they lose their minds and insult anyone who doesn't agree with their refutations. It's like they don't understand that criticism is a healthy thing that allows something to grow and improve.

>I think you have them mistaken for Toei shills.
I've never heard a "Toei shill" violently attempting to defend SSR Trunks or the asspull Spirit Bomb Blade, or denying that the animation and art is most often complete shit. If people like that do exist, they're in the minority.

People actually forgot that the first time we ever see Goku learning and actually practicing a technique was the Mafuba in Super?

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>>158771797
Here

>>158771833
>insult anyone who doesn't agree with their refutations
Like this guy >>158771629

>I've never heard a "Toei shill" violently attempting to defend SSR Trunks or the asspull Spirit Bomb Blade
Then you haven't been here long.

>If people like that do exist, they're in the minority.
Sure anon sure.

>>158771874
And that was a good thing. Learning a technique that can possibly kill the user in order to trap someone in a magical sealed container or a technique that only fucking GoDs have been seen using that literally erases something from existence is a far cry from learning another generic laser beam technique.

If Goku and Vegeta were shown learning every single technique it would get fucking boring, but they need to be shown learning the important ones or it's going to feel like an asspull. As it did.

Without a Golden form nor his needles Frost is gonna be totally useless, probably weaker than SS Cabba.

Does this mean Freeza will teach him where it tingles when he goes Golden Freeza? Or will they betray each other beforehand.

>>158771899
I can see you're not actually interested in refuting or discussing anything. Instead you're just going to get insulted because someone doesn't think the manga is flawless and throw around strawmen, so I'm not going to waste my time with you.

>>158768837
>WHY GOKU DOESN'T BELIEVE ON HIS SON? REEEEEE
>WHY GOKU BELIEVE ON HIS SON? REEEEEE

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>>158771951
Forgot pic.

>>158771952
>I can see you're not actually interested in refuting or discussing anything
>irony the post

>>158771991
Okay, anon. Whatever buzzwords you need to toss out to feel better about yourself, you go ahead and do that, even if you have no idea what they mean.

>>158761854

These threads make me want to kill myself, whenever I go to a DBS super thread I feel like I've entered some strange limbo. Toriyama once had a series that felt like he put soul into, now it's just soulless trash, or maybe it always was. DBS is hot trash I might watch it just because a handful of scenes seem like they have good animation. DBS highlights the pointlessness of existence with their milking of a beloved series.

>>158768513
They tried to make 17 into the third guy but it horribly backfired. Frieza bring ratings but he'll be clearly an antagonist rather than a third guy. I think they're going to stick to Gohan for a while

>>158772036
Whatever you say pedro

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Why was Vegeta spooked by the black's SS ki again?

SUBARASHI
*clap clap clap*

>>158771824
Probably will be one of the last ones standing instead of a jobber, Gohan more likely to job at this point. It looked like they were hyping Gohan to be something and then they did a 180 on it.

why is manga trunks so shit?

in the anime trunks takes his mother and mai far away that nothing gonna happen to them and yet in the manga he does nothing and because of this mai was used as a human shield by zamasu

>>158772151
His name isn't Goku so Toyo doesn't give a shit about him.

>>158771899
>I've never heard a "Toei shill" violently attempting to defend SSR Trunks or the asspull Spirit Bomb Blade

> Then you haven't been here long.

The fuck are you talking about? If any animefag said Trunks using a Spirit Bomb wasn't an asspull, they were in the minority

Most of the "arguments" were: it might not make much sense, but Trunks absorbing a Spirit Bomb into his sword was fucking cool

No one said "HE TRAINED OFF-SCREEN!! HE HAS POTENTIAL TO LEARN A BASIC SAIYAN SAGA MOVE! (etc.)"

>>158772151
>Why is manga trunks so shit?
Correction
Why is Super's Future Trunks so shit in general?

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>>158772151
>in the anime trunks takes his mother and mai far away that nothing gonna happen to them

>>158772074
Shut the fuck up Manuel

>>158772148
Some anons were saying the same after 17's cocksucking episodes but then we got episode 90

>>158772203
>HE TRAINED OFF-SCREEN!! HE HAS POTENTIAL TO LEARN A BASIC SAIYAN SAGA MOVE! (etc.)"
Again you clearly haven't been here long.

>>158772213
Different scene retard

There, Bulma specifically walked up to Zamasu

>>158761923
>So shit if Goku went back in time to right before the 21st Budokai, what would he even teach his kid self?
Probably nothing? Maybe some social skills like what Marriage is but Goku teaching his kid self all his powers seem very un Goku like, he would probably would not want to spoil the fun of working hard and achieving those levels for his past self.

I really regret getting spoilered

can you imagine how much more exciting this is if you dont know what is going on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoWBDtk03XI

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>>158772242

>>158772236
>no argument
Why am I not surprised?

>>158772236
>Again
Not that anon, just calling u out for either being: a lying shitposter or delusional toyocuck

>>158761193
O MY LSSJ BLOOD

>>158772236
Yeah, he sure forgot the two times ever a random anon has said that

>>158772233
Isn't episode 90 the one where Gohan lost to Piccolo or is the one where Gohan begged his dad to hit him with his full power and then got one shot? Looks pretty grim for Gohan.

>>158772268
>>158772273
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149968110/#q149971073

>Trunks actually trained under U7 Kaioshin for Majin Buu, that was pretty much stated, especially in the manga.
>That is likely when he learnt how to do a spirit bomb.

>lying shitposter or delusional
Irony the post

>>158771961
There's a difference between belief and blind faith, retard.

Gohan hasn't done or shown anything to warrant him being deserving of team captain.

>>158772236
>you haven't been here long
The go-to "argument" for retarded shitposters who actually haven't been here long.

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>>158772378
You mean this?

>>158772383
Holy fuck one single time, that sure tears apart the argument of Toyo fanboys doing it every single time someone criticizes anything in the manga ever.

Are you even trying?

>>158772383
Wow you found one retard

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>>158772422
>no argument
wew lurk more kid

>>158772383

I said two >>158772328

You still forgot the other one

>>158772450
(You)

>>158772420
>Gohan using full power Mystic
>Goku using SSJ
That's not full power.anon

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>>158772446

>>158772485
>ad hominem
You have no idea what that means, do you?

why do you fucking retards keep responding to an obvious shitposter

>>158772528
>irony the post

>>158772389
It's a sink or swim situation. Sounds very in-character for Goku

>>158772553
>strawman the post

>>158772420
Jesus how much must Goku pity his son to toy with him like this, give his son "Team Captain" for a team that won't listen to him, and have to constantly whisper "I'm proud of you" after everything?

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>>158763155
I love these panels for some reason

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What the hell happened to this thread?

>>158772554
I feel like Goku just want Gohan to stop whining and is trying to boost his self esteem at this point. Gohan is one of those self pitying faggots who just post on twitter about how useless they are and nothing else.

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>mfw after 2 years I finally noticed Golden Freeza has larger brow ridges and burns off energy fast just like a Super Saiyan 3

How have I not noticed this sooner?

>>158772420
he jobbed to tien, piccolo and krillin.

>>158772627
Getting the tribals roused up is extremely easy.

>>158772553
I bet you think you're so clever for that response, huh? Well guess what, fuckface: your cute little "greentext" won't save you from the inevitable shitstorm of embarrassment, humiliation, and shame that piledrives you into the dirt after I'm through blasting your "argument" into tatters of self-loathing and Cheeto dust. You think you're clever? You think you're better than me or anyone else here with your cute little "epic meme arrows" and your condescending tone? You're nothing, pal. Just another faceless troglodyte floating in a sea of pathetic, grease-stained loneliness and crushing self-doubt. If you could ever find a chair reinforced by some groundbreaking new procedure developed by NASA so it could hold your immense weight, if you sat in that chair and thought, really THOUGHT FUCKING HARD about the drivel you've been posting, you might be so ashamed that you decide to end it right there. But you won't, because your brain can only process thoughts in the form of ">mfw" and outdated memes. Too much Mountain Dew and masturbation, I guess.

You may think you're cute. You may even think other people think you're cute. But the harsh, HARSH reality is you're nothing. You're an illusion. A fucking echo of an echo. And that's all you'll ever be.

>>158772660
Because you didn't pay enough attention to the movie, that's exactly why he lost in RoF aside from just 4 months instead of 1 year or longer

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>>158772595
Goku went all-out

Goku was a proud dad

>>158771364
Goten was actually 7, and Trunks was 8. You have the rest right, they should be at least pre-teens in built by now.

>>158772659
Gohan was fine with his life. It was Goku the one who throw him into this mess

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>>158772420
yeah you mean how he was struggling with SSJ2 goku

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>>158771491
>>158771522
>>158771558
>>158771590

It's Okay When Toriyama Does It™

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>TFW Goku would rather have Kid Buu as a son than Jobhan

>>158772718
>Goku went all-out
After Gohan cried and whined for him to. It was pester power. Yet another example of Goku treating his son like a charity case.

Just joining the discussion because I tend to avoid anything to do with Gohan. Gohan is literally the definition of someone blessed with a gift and potential that many others would love to have, but takes the easy route out and does nothing with it. I just really hate him as a person and character. Screentime should be given to a character who wanted to make an effort and give a shit from the very start without having to be held by the hand. Reminds me of everyone who just complains about everything and don't act on it even when they were born with a silver spoon in their mouths.

>>158772826
>After Gohan cried and whined for him to.
How many times did he beg Goku to use his full power? 7? 8? It even started to irritate me as an audience member, I can't imagine how Goku was feeling.

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>>158772798
He struggled, but he had a good fight for the most part

Also it was SSJ2 Saiyan Beyond God Goku

>>158772826
He was doing well against Gohan at SS2.

Whereas he went SSB against Frieza and 17 pretty quickly.

>>158772899
>Also it was SSJ2 Saiyan Beyond God Goku
Nice headcanon, Eduardo.

>>158772881
I mean, he kind of had a point though since even when Goku went blue Gohan was strong enough to match his attack.

>>158772899
>Gohan matched SSJ God with less than a day of training.
wew

>>158772704
It was just so boring after the Z-Fighters fought Freeza's army, but I get it now. That's some clever design from Toriyama, which is something that hasn't happened in a while.

>>158772943
I'm pretty convinced Goku only went SSB to test Krillin's mettle when he used it. But when earlier in the episode, Gohan lost to Krillin, it wasn't Gohan congratulating Krillin on using his brain to take out a much stronger opponent that himself and taking it with humility, it was just I AM SORRY FOR BEING SO PATHETIC AND USELESS I AM SORRY FOR BEING PATHETIC I AM SORRY I AM USELESS I AM SORRY oh fucking god shut the fuck up Gohan.

>>158772980
>Getting power he had back from fucking several years ago with a little pep talk from his mentor
Another reason why Gohan is a fucking shit. He's blessed with abilities he doesn't deserve and does jack shit with them, and even forgets about them.

>>158772899
>SSJ2 Saiyan Beyond God Goku

Ultimate headcannon achieved

>>158772980
Maybe Ultimate Gohan is naturally that strong, but thanks to him not training he lost his power?

Nah, that's bullshit.

>>158773101
>Ultimate Gohan is naturally that strong

Hence why Beerus easily beat Gohan and had a harder time with SSJ God Goku.

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>tfw Yamkek and Tenshithan will never be more muscular than the Saiyans ever again
>tfw the only non-manlets in your group who aren't Piccolo are weak as shit, especially Yamcha

Why does Toriyama hate tall people?

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>>158773087
> posts proof from anime
> proof also exists in the movie (pic related)

>"oh shit, I have no argument! Better resort to buzzwords!"

Hey at least you tried

>>158772958

See: >>158773233

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>>158773233
>proof

>>158773233
>Pedro thinks he actually provided proof
>Pedro thinks info in the movies means anything
Those tacos must be addling your brain.