Uchouten Kazoku

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Third book can't come soon enough です

>Book 3 will be about Tengu
>Book 3 will be more of based Nidaime blowing the fuck out of Benten
Can't fucking wait.

inb4 the climax is Soun trying to fuck with the Shimogamos AGAIN

See you fags next week and then 2 years later.

I want to cum on Nidaime's couch.

It's amazing how silly and at the same time dramatic and serious it can be at the same time durign certain scenes..

>>158700489
>2 years later

You wish.

>>158699114
Good interview, an interesting read. The part about Seiran made me wonder if Yajiro would eventually live with Seiran's family instead of her moving to Kyoto.

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>>158701118
There's something that sounded like foreshadowing for it, mom says Soichirou was afraid to let Yajirou leave Kyoto, because he believed he might never come back.

>>158701973
I'd be fine with Yajiro leaving as long as it's after the trilogy ends. Though I'm not sure what a frog like him would do in the 3rd novel if it's about tengu.

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>>158699802
>it's about Ben10 and 2daime slowly becoming allies and taking charge of the tengu world

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JUSTICE FOR YODOGAWA

>>158705120
but that's Ponpoko Kamen, an ally of justice

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>>158705246
Wrong pic.

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Will this man's evil deeds ever come to a halt?

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This season doesn't have enough of the best brother.

>>158699802
Will Benten finally submit to the big tengu cock?

Just finished episode 11, and I'm wondering if Kaisei was in on Soun faking his death and impersonating her brother?

Would her running away be a part of it as well to hide her involvement?

>>158705120
The music made that moment.

>>158705542
That sounds completely ridiculous.

>>158705661
Just my thoughts, anon.

I'm really eager for next weeks episode now.

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I hope next week's episode has more Gyokuran being best girl even for just a few more scenes.

How quickly she jumps to the aid of her husbando is something to be admired.

So am I the only one enjoying Season 2 much more than 1? The last thread people kept thrashing this season as a rehash for some reason.

>>158709469
I think most people enjoy season 2 more, I sure am

People are just made because the very very high level plot is the same. Execution and plot mechanics are completely different so I don't mind at all.

The plot doesn't need to be complicated or even original. The characters are what really makes the show. So whats important to me is that the plot is able to bring out and justify the emotions of the characters.

>>158709710
Thankyou. I thought I was going crazy from all the faggots last thread. Especially that Benten shitposter.

>>158709469
I'm enjoying the seasons about the same overall, but I do dislike the reuse of the Ebisugawa-trap-the-Shimogamos-and-trick-everyone-at-the-Nisemon-election structure, particularly after Soun's great "death".

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>>158699114
It's still hard for me to believe Nidaime is voiced by Majima Junji of all people. Didn't know he had the range for this kind of character.

>>158709469
I enjoyed both. It's the kind of show that's so fun in the moment I always feel bad when the episode ends because I want more. The whimsical nature of all the characters makes it so even when the characters are in life and death situations it doesn't feel like the stakes are all that high, which is like the whole point of Yasaburo's outlook so it all fits together incredibly well.

I'm rambling probably but yeah, I liked both.

>>158709469
I definitely enjoyed season 2 more.

I'm not bothered by Soun being the bad guy again since there's so much going on apart from that.

>>158709469
I enjoyed the first more because of the subject matter, but I wouldn't have season 2 go any other way. It feels like a really natural progression and the characters' priorities have changed so of course the style is going to be different. I love both. Soun's death was the first time an anime has choked me up in years.

Are Tanuki,Tengu and Oni nthe only yokai in the novels/show? can't remeber exactly

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Yajiro is only goodlooking in fanart.

>>158705387

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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>>158714118
He's hot in the show too.

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I want a tanuki

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>>158714576
I want a tanuki wife

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>>158716078

>>158705443
Stufu. Benten is clearly a furry and therefore will gobble up Yasaburo's fluffy balls and cock.

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Is it a crime?

>>158717094
Is seiran small for her age or is she a child?

>>158717094
>Going right back to Shikoku for waifu he just met
Based Frogbro

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>>158717094
Who cares?

>>158717094
Tanuki have shown no indication of actually having a legal system, so probably not.

>>158719518
Why is a hahaue of 4 allowed to be this cute?

>>158699088
How does the second season compare to the first?

>>158721184
Read the thread.

>>158716598
Yasaburou has been so smug this season, I don't think it particularly fits him.

>>158720374
Makes you wonder how that mixes with observable businesses like producing brandy. Like do humans demand tax

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>>158722457
He's always been mischievous.

>>158699802
>nidaime and/or benten was actually soun all along

>>158709469
I only watched Season 1 a week or two ago, but it felt very incomplete to me. Season 2 has really filled in the show a lot, and feels like the missing second cour.

I'm honestly not sure why season 1 was so high rated on its own.

>>158723040
>Yasaburo was actually Soun all along

>>158723147
>I'm honestly not sure why season 1 was so high rated on its own.
It sold like crap.

>>158723147
I liked that for the most part, there didn't need to be more context than required. If I remember there wasn't any awkward exposition dumping. You were told enough to understand what was going on and could easily infer the rest. I never had the feeling of missing information. It felt natural and life-like.

>>158723281
Commercial success =/= critical acclaim

Went back to read the previous thread and I can't believe there are posters like >>158687727 who still think Yasaburou should have openly picked Benten.

If he had said he liked her better he knows it would just lead him into deeper shit because Benten would then go on to trap him with leading questions like "well if you like me better why did you ask Nidaime?" "If you like me better then go do __________ for me" and it'd be never ending. Answering that he respects both as tengu was not only the answer she should have expected in a public setting but the safest way for Yasaburou to keep his options open in the future if he has to do something against Benten's wishes.

>>158726393
>>158726393
>If he had said he liked her better he knows it would just lead him into deeper shit because Benten would then go on to trap him with leading questions like "well if you like me better why did you ask Nidaime?" "If you like me better then go do __________ for me" and it'd be never ending.
>If you like me better then go do __________ for me"
I'm >>158687727 and I'd like to point out that I did acknowledge that as a potential reason in my original post (>>158686857, "Did he think committing to her side would get him wrapped up in shit further?"). My stance on "he knows..." is that, without any direct evidence of that thought process, it seems a lot to just assume, particularly coming from Yasaburo the serial flatterer, and the same guy who just a few episodes ago went on at length about how much he'd like to eat tanuki in front of a bunch of tanuki-eaters who very well could and did try to pull him into their shit. And my stance on what what he should have done is that (as you're probably tired of me repeating by now) the immediate situation was serious and would seem to me to take precedence over those later concerns, which he could try to deal with as they came. Yasaburou himself had acknowledged a few episodes back that Benten's anger regarding Nidaime was not the kind of anger he could play around with.

I still don't buy the "public setting" rationale, but I think we've clearly come to an impasse on that part. Actually, we're basically at an impasse on everything, we can't seem to agree at all and I think we just have fundamentally different views of Yasaburo and his dynamics with others.

>>158705120
That scene was great.

>>158705661
Everything in it made that moment,

>>158723257
>Soun was actually Soichiro all along
>Soun was actually yasaburo's dad all along

>>158726970
Soichirou is Yasaburo's dad, though. The true plot twist to end all plot twists would be "Kureichirou is Soun, and Soun-Kureichirou is actually Kureichirou."

>>158727013
We saw Soichirou go to heaven though

>>158727049
we actually saw soun go to heaven

>>158727013
I think what he's saying is that the "Soun" we see would then be Souichirou.

>>158727092
He couldn't transform anymore, that was the same Souichirou we saw in childhood, young adulthood, and late adulthood. He was acknowledged by Akadama. They would have to have completely switched at a time so early that the swap would be meaningless in the first place because their personalities have been unchanged. The only swap would be that they switched names as very young children, and maybe family inheritance, at birth, but that's meaningless since all of their achievements have been earned, not inherited.

>>158727182
Plastic surgery of the soul.

>>158727182
but we were joking

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>now you repent, butts out
>now you scheme again, plant this gun

>>158717094
Man if I could also leave my hikki comfort zone and find myself a loli brown friend shortly after i'd do I

>>158727196
He wouldn't have needed plastic surgery by what I just said. Besides, giant tengu jew noses can pick up tanuki scents anyway, which would have tipped Akadama off to it at any point, not to mention his family and society.

>>158727197
Anything to bump the thread.

>>158700489
>2 years later
Third book isn't even out yet unfortunately.

>>158727264
> He wouldn't have needed plastic surgery by what I just said
Yes, I know. I'm giving an alternate explanation since yours makes the swap meaningless, like you just said.
>not to mention his family and society.
Society literally didn't notice the swap with Kureichirou, though. And his family didn't recognize his scent the last time they saw him, remember? What if that weren't because of the baths, but because it was Soun all along?

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i'm gonna learn japanese and read the novels before the third one comes out!

>>158726871
The immediate situation being serious doesn't mean he should just not think about how his current answer could affect his future options. That's aho even for him. He knows how to play the long game with how he didn't cash on on the Nidaime favour immediately.

Watch the episode again and see how it's a public setting with all the tanuki elders still huddled in the background. He knows when he can get away with being a fool and when the situation calls for seriousness and propriety. He can clown the Friday Fellows about being a tanuki eater because he's not beholden to humans who don't know anything about who he really is or where he lives, he can make fun of Akadama too when he can read the mood and know he'll be able to cajole his way out of it.

Knowing that Benten's anger about Nidaime is serious is why he has to give a serious answer and respect both, as any tanuki should be doing. It's not a situation where he can side Benten and think that Benten will not hold him to it very seriously if she wants to a second time.

What is even Soun's agenda at this point? He fucked up every possibility that he had. Did he expect to remain as his son's impostor forever? What does him becoming Niseemon again even achieve? Power for powers sake? I know tanuki are retarded and petty but still, he and his brother seemed to be a bit better than the rest.
From both logical and narrative pov it'd be best to have this character fuck off somewhere forever.

>>158727601
He still wants to stop Kaisei and Yasaburou's marriage. Yaichirou speaks in favor of it and would have power as the magistrate.

>>158714515
His eyes and lethargic demeanor just make me think of sneezy the dwarf as an anime character.

are there any raws of Uchouten Kazoku manga?

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>>158729930
Yes.
http://manga-zip net/archives/129136.html

>>158730202
thanks, i like the designs

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>>158728435
I call those sexy bedroom eyes.
I find everything about him sexy, even his mullet.

>>158727601
He's extremely petty. His inferiority complex is so big that even now, years and years afterwards, even after being exposed of all his misdeeds, he still doesn't give a fuck about all that and all he keeps wanting is to for once outshine his brother, to take something that was his for himself for even the briefest moment, even if to do it he has to do it in the most roundabout way and that's guaranteed to be discovered sooner or later. That's how pathetic he is. He doesn't care anymore, he's completely lost it, he just want to be called "Soun the Niseemon" even if the title lasts for 5 minutes because in his crazy-ass full of inferiority mind being able to do that will FINALLY make him better than his brother that he envied so much.

He is completely and absolutely mental, even for Tanuki's standards.

>>158699729
Agreed mein freund

>>158734193
They'd call him Kureichiro the niseemon.

>>158736650
Ebisugawa-san.

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>>158737995
Still makes a difference. He actually needs to put down his ego as Soun to besmirch his memory as much as he has as Kureichiro and gain the society's trust again.

The more I think about the last episode, the more I think that 90% of the tannuki literally deserve nothing more than being eaten.

>>158738528
You and me both anon.

>>158727762

>implying he can cut their red string of fate

I finally catch one of these threads

What has been everyones favorite part of season 2?

>>158741146
Gyokuran being added to the main cast.

>>158741146
Friday Fellows meeting in 7.

>>158741146
frogbro going on the trip and discovering dad prepared a loli for him

>>158741146
The ending scene where Kaisei shows herself to Yasaburou

it was really fucking cute

>>158727588
>The immediate situation being serious doesn't mean he should just not think about how his current answer could affect his future options.
Of course not, but my argument is that the immediate danger of his answer overwhelmed the future danger of other possible answers.
> Watch the episode again and see how it's a public setting with all the tanuki elders still huddled in the background.
I already said last thread the reasons why I don't think that'd change things.

> He can clown the Friday Fellows about being a tanuki eater because he's not beholden to humans who don't know anything about who he really is or where he lives
Except Benten and Jurojin (or at least Tenmaya) do.

> Knowing that Benten's anger about Nidaime is serious is why he has to give a serious answer and respect both
>a serious answer
He didn't, though, he just dodged the question. She was asking a personal question (because to her the whole thing is personal; this isn't just a power play), and he demurred with "I respect you both," which clearly does not address the real point, and which he should/would have known was not going to pass muster. It was an extremely weak attempt at non-commitment and at changing the rules of a discussion when she clearly was not going to allow that (and as we saw with her pipe-throwing, it made her angrier and the situation was resolved only by the unexpected arrival of Nidaime). I don't see how that's a serious answer.

>>158741146
Soun's death and the buildup. Too bad they wasted it, though.

I hope Kaisei gets knocked up while in heat. Fucking slutty tanukis.

>>158707407
Truly a ride or die bitch.

>>158741930
Well looking back, Soun's words did mean "watch me die with your own two eyes."

>>158741264
This one.

>>158741899
>immediate danger of his answer overwhelmed the future danger of other possible answers.
No it doesn't. If he said he liked her better right there it'd turn into Benten trapping him with "Then why did you ask Nidaime?" and he wouldn't be able to give any satisfactory answer which gives her reason to really attack him. When he replied he respected both, what can she do? That's what a tanuki is supposed answer to tengu. She can throw a tantrum but she wasn't going to kill any tanuki there, she just said she'd eat them if they were in a hotpot.

>Except Benten and Jurojin (or at least Tenmaya) do.
He could clown them because Benten wasn't going to blow his cover. Jurojin doesn't know anything about him and I doubt Tenyama knew or else he would have told Jurojin instead of wipe Benten's mess up by making a deal with Soun to catch tanuki. Either way, he got away with lying to them and only got caught because of Soun which Yasaburou couldn't have helped whatever he did.

>She was asking a personal question
She was making it personal with Yasaburou but it wasn't at all personal for the tanuki, they just wanted Nidaime so they wouldn't have to be afraid of the hotpot during their ceremony. Since it wasn't personal for tanuki or Yasaburou, why should he have to placate her? I already mentioned above why answering yes would be a trap right there and in the future. She was clearly getting mad but I disagree she was going to kill him. She's still kind and not going to kill him herself. Only eat him if he's served in front of her.

>>158742723
>If he said he liked her better right there it'd turn into Benten trapping him with "Then why did you ask Nidaime?"
I'm not sure it would, frankly. Again, I'm reading it as more of a personal question/choice rather than a power play. I think he'd have been able to get away with that, on the condition that sure as fuck never again. Hell, even saying he liked her more and then, after that, divorcing the personal from the political would have been better than answering her personal question with a stock answer like that.
> When he replied he respected both, what can she do? That's what a tanuki is supposed answer to tengu.
That's exactly why it pisses her off, because she's not going for that angle. I don't buy that she was just going to go away, especially not since, again, she made a clearly threatening action right before unexpected intervention came to save the day (which, narratively, suggests that that intervention was necessary). And, also again, he went into hiding, so clearly he himself is under the impression that she is a fucking danger to him as a result of the whole picking-Nidaime-for-the-election affair.

>He could clown them because Benten wasn't going to blow his cover
Right, she just roped him into the fucking Friday Fellows and would have done god knows what with that had they not fallen out shortly afterward.
> I doubt Tenyama knew
Am I misremembering something? I'm pretty sure he definitively does, unless he thought Yasaburo was doing tricks by turning into bears and oni and I just forgot that.
> only got caught because of Soun
>got caught
What?

> She was making it personal with Yasaburou but it wasn't at all personal for the tanuki
Yes, but that's not the fucking point. We're talking about a practical recourse, and when the person with power is personally affronted and asking a personal question, avoiding that to hide behind a formal screen and not answer the question is a bad idea, and certainly not a "serious" answer.

>>158743245
>on the condition that sure as fuck never again
That's the problem, it would definitely come up again so why box himself into having to always side with Benten if he doesn't have to?

>he went into hiding
He goes into hiding to let things cool off as he's done before. In book 1 he also hid from her knowing he'd face punishment but with time the ire would peter out. Even with Akadama he knows not to go back to Akadama until some time has passed and Akadama's anger had abated.

>would have done god knows what with that
She roped him in because she likes to see Yasaburou squirm but you obviously see her wat more negatively if you think she did that to ensure Yasaburou would be the tanuki they eat.
Other people in the thread can weigh in but I don't remember it being clear in the novel that Tenyama knows. Nevertheless he knew about Soun but Jurojin doesn't seem to have been told until he saw the transformation himself. Caught as in caught in a cage for the hotpot, it was a consequence of what Soun did, not anything to do with Yasaburou.

Look, didn't you say that Yasaburou was the one who made it clear he knows when Benten is really angry and Nidaime is one of those things? So Yasaburou clearly knows and still said what he said. You just seem upset that he didn't answer her the way you think he should.

>>158733352
What kind of necklace is that? It kind of looks like a dogtag.

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>>158741146
It's really difficult to choose since I love so many things about S2. For now I will say I love Nidaime. I never would have thought an English gentleman would mesh so well into this world.

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>>158745369

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>>158745979
Cute set.

>>158746338
The OTP

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>>158746338

>>158727252
>leave your NEETdom and you get a brown loli
Sasuga Nippon.

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>>158746338
>>158746374
Seriously cute

>>158746734
She's supposed to be a young lady inside so don't bother trying IRL.

>>158741326
>discovering dad prepared a loli for him
So that's what his dad naming the loli meant.

>idiotic son that does nothing but drink reveals he is a lolicon that likes his brother fiance
>dad just act calm because he had already prepared a loli for his lolicon son in advance
Is there a better tanuki dad than Souichirou ?

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>>158749240
>hid her away in Shikoku and wished Yajirou would never leave Kyoto

>>158746338
>Yaichirou has Gyokuran.
>Yajirou has brown loli.
>Yasaburou has Kaisei.
Who will Yashirou get?

>>158749404
benten

Anyone has links to the threads for the first season? I want to see the reaction to episode 8, shit was sad, poor frogbro

>>158744160
>if he doesn't have to?
Because from my perspective he does have to.

>In book 1 he also hid from her knowing he'd face punishment but with time the ire would peter out.
He hid from her because she'd literally said that if he broke it, he'd have to entertain th
em and die if he failed. And her ire didn't peter out.

>you obviously see her wat more negatively if you think she did that to ensure Yasaburou would be the tanuki they eat
Oh, that's not what I was trying to imply. She'd certainly have dragged him into more Friday Fellows stuff and quite possibly have tried to make him eat tanuki (to see how he reacted and/or got out of it). It was a clear subpar outcome that he wasn't banking on at all, because he was thinking of immediate consequences more.

> in the novel
Wait, what the hell, you're a novelfag? So are your claims about what Yasaburo thought during that scene with Benten actually backed up by the novel? If so, I'm plain wrong and you should have said that at the start since I was explicitly asking for novelfags to shed light on it.

>So Yasaburou clearly knows and still said what he said.
Yes, and that's why I'm saying it seems like a bad and puzzling decision that I wanted explanation for, which was what started this whole thing.

>>158751794
Your perspective is wrong and not what Yasaburou agrees with. It's only a bad and puzzling decision to you because you're set on that immediate danger etc. You've been provided explanations but you just don't agree anyway. It's on page 417 of the novel and Yasaburou's thoughts aren't described but he's clearly serious. Yasaburou's decisions are all logical to me so I'm good.

>>158746374
hnng
I love 青年少女 pairings.

>>158741146
Nidaime ironing his shirts and Nidaime dropping Benten out of the chaise into the floor.