I just finished the last coiple episodes of Evangelion. I am

Anyone? I have absolutely no fucking idea what I just watched. It didn't make any sense.

watch the movies, death + rebirth and End of evangelion

If you don't understand what happened then you don't understand life.

>>158551886
and then it'll make sense? Alright i'll do that thanks.
>>158551921
clearly I don't understand life then. Would you mind explaining those last couple episodes please?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXe46xi-wQ

>>158552007
accurate as fuck. "is this where you end this series?" What the fuck even was the last few episodes they made no god damn sense. I'm sitting here googling what the fuck that ending was.

>>158550990
2deep4u

>>158552112
That was a rant by Shinji's voice actor after finishing the dub.

>>158552143
i'm not even going to lie it definitely was way too deep. I could tell they were going for deep shit there but it flew way over my head and no one itt so far has even attempted to give an explanation of wtf just happened.

>>158552112
the last episodes were running out of budget and needing to wrap up a show, that's what

>>158552249
do it yourself, we're purposefully not spoonfeeding you since you're obviously new

>>158552112
The ending was a direct confrontations with all the underlying themes and conflicts of the series. The entire series revolved around Shinji's inner struggles about his self worth, and his interactions with those around them. Through the process of 3rd Impact/Humanity Instrumentality, Shinji faces his issues head on and realizes that he has agency over his own being, that the solution to his inner problems is to learn to love himself, and from there he will be able to shape his relationships with others.

It makes sense when you think about it for awhile.

>>158552256
I guessed the budget was a problem based on the "animation" at the end there. But that's fine I just want to understand the ending. What happened there?

>>158552307
go to the eva wiki and read up son

Watch The End of Evangelion movie. The last two episodes were the instrumentality project shit taking place in shinji's head during a scene in EoE where he fuses with Unit 1 or something. You'll see

Then watch the Rebuild movies.

>>158552294
wait what? 3rd impact? Humanity instrumentality? The last thing that happened that actually made sense was Shinji fighting the last angel and him saying that's lilith who I googled and know who that is then he kills him. After that shit got weird and I have no idea what happened.

>>158551886

death and rebirth not neccessary if he already watched the whole series, it's just recap

>>158552371
but I did understand the he learned to love himself thing. That made sense. Solved his problem.

>>158552371

Watch the goddamn movie that actually ends the series.

Btw that's just that anon's interpretation, it could very well be shinji falling in the human instrumentality project and merging with others, becoming one, who knows.

>>158550990
2deep

>>158552344
will do. Thanks.

>>158552435
way too deep for me.

>>158552433
We know that isn't true though. The whole final episode was about him defining himself as an individual, the exact opposite goal of Instrumentality. This point is hammered home in EoE. The two endings are not exclusive to one another.

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>you will never experience EoE for the first time ever again

>>158552539
I can tell you right now it's not that great of a feeling. I'm still confused as fuck and i'm reading all about this ending.

>>158550990
Global Rule #2

>>158552603
I can't speak for anyone else but I was in a pretty bad place when I first watched Eva and the themes resonated so much with me and then watching everything go tumbling down in EoE was pretty much as close to being gobsmacked as you can get from an anime

>>158552732
Luckily i'm 24

>>158552789
I got none of that. All I felt was confusion. "What the fuck is going on?" was thought many times. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I heard good things about it so I thought i'd watch it and... it wasn't bad but just clearly not for me.

>>158552879
Yeah I cant imagine Eva being a decent experience unless you're depressed and insecure to begin with

>>158552948
desu I thought Shinji was a little bitch most of the time. Just get in the god damn mech you fuck. This guy quit like 5 fucking times throughout the show.

I want to rewatch evangelion.
Should I watch 2.0 or the original again?

>>158552996
original. Then 2.0.

>>158552980
Did you understand at all why he didn't want to get in the robot though?

are you the idiot that posted yesterday
I told you to pay attention

>>158553082
yeah I guess. He can feel pain when his robot gets hurt that first time. And he was scared when it went berserk mode. And that last time his father almost made him kill his friend.
>>158553108
that was not me

>>158550990
>down like three bottles of delsym cough syrup
>watch again
this is all you need to do

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>>158553246
That would be understandable, but Shinji's probably the pilot least afraid of Evas. It killed him for a month and he still wanted to do it more than anybody wanted him to do it. His anxiety is somewhere else.

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>>158552539
>mfw I watched EoE for the first time and I was weeded as fuck
>mfw the part where the third impact started to happen
It wasn't as scary as when I watched Foodfight, but it was still pretty fucking freaky.

>>158553946
Where is it then? He hates himself and doesn't think he's good enough to pilot?

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Asuka best girl
Prove me wrong, pro tip you can't

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>>158555994

>>158555994
She was a bitch
>>158556036
She was an emotionless weird robot

Both gave me pedo vibes from the men they're chasing

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>>158555994

>>158555994
Rei exists. Damn, that was easy.

>>158556969
She has the personality of a rock

>>158552112
The TV ending is a large group therapy session forced by instrumentality (everyones souls and minds merged together into one superior being)

Given you are now "everyone", there is no point in having secrets, and people complete each other.

The movie ending is a little different, but both endings were aiming for the psychological resolution of the characters, and it was glorious.

>>158557801
yeah I was confused about the TV ending. Haven't seen the movie yet. The TV ending was confusing as fuck and vague. Thanks for explaining that.

Im not sure if its because i was somewhat spoiled about tbe series before hand (even though i wasn't spoiled about the endings in particular), or if its because i usually overthink everything, but i didnt think neither ending was confused. the TV ending was exactly what i wanted, and EoE had a pretty cool execution.

I cant say i didnt miss anything, but i understood everything i noticed.

>>158552539
just watch the rebuilds to expereince the same mindfuck again

>>158557866
So, the entire series was shaping up for this thing called "instrumentality project", by seele.
Its is a magic event that merged everyone into one being, the pre requisite is all 15 angels dead. After kaworu died, it was triggered by seele.
Rei is key for it all (did you notice she casting an AT field against kaworu in episode 24? She is very special). And kaworu "we are similar" speech to her? Keep it in mind.
In EoE we see HOW it got triggered, but besides looking fantastic, knowing how it happened is pretty unnecessary.

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>>158557942
Are Rei and Kaworu alien brother and sister?

>>158554562
He pushes back when Asuka says that kind of thing. He's defiant of the same insults he applies to himself to squirm away from a compliment.

>>158558017
They aren't aliems
Humans were on earth only after Lilith and Adam were

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>>158552373
Rebirth is worth watching for the ending alone.

>>158558017
rei is a psuedo-clone of lillith and kaworu is a psuedo-clone of adam

>>158558145
So they're technically ex-lovers?

>>158558017
Kinda. A lot of the series mythology isnt explained in the series. At all. Only in supplementary stuff like games and art books. Here some explanation of things never explained in the series proper.

There were some super advanced aliens called First Ancestral Race (FAR for short) who wanted to spread over the universe.
They created "Seeds of life" and sent then to different planets. By chance, 2 landed on earth, one called Adam with the fruit of life (power), other called Lilith, with the fruit of knowledge.
A creature with both halfs would be equivalent to the FAR (Gods) so Adam disabled itself.
Lilith gave fruit to humanity, a smart race.
Humans accidently triggered Adam to awakening (second impact), and 15 children of adam were created (the angels of the series).
Kaworu was special among those 15 angels for he carried the very soul of Adam.
Lilith never exploded in different angels, but somehow, her soul ended in a mortal body: Rei.
So it makes them the incarnation of the gods of the setting.

>>158558151
curiously for all the apocrypha and kabbalah shit inserted into the show there was no pseudo-sexual references to Adam and Lilith giving birth to Man even though all the pieces are right there (what with Gendo's screed in Antarctica about man rebelling against God)

>>158551959
End of Evangelion is a more concrete telling of Human Instrumentality, but it's still not that straightforward. Just as an example, there are multiple theories about what the final scene is supposed to convey, and I'm sure you've seen at least one thread on it during your time on /a/. Don't expect EoE to answer everything, it left me with more questions than answers the first time I watched it.

Evangelion is all about presenting a lot of information at once and letting the audience connect the dots for themselves - one of the main reasons it's my favorite anime series

>>158558222
Lilith gave birth to man alone. Adan didnt do anything till the second impact.
But if you want some pseudo sexuality, Mega rei and mega kaworu are connected by the hips.

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>>158558222
In EoE when Kaworu and Rei merge, Fuyutsuki calls it a "forbidden union"

>>158558266
I was looking for this image for ages and never found it on the boorus. Thanks.

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People like to pretend this was intentional but basically they ran out of resources and had to scrap things they had planned. Anno threw this together to complete the scheduled run of the show. He had no choice but to focus on the inner conflicts of the characters because no action would get animated. I think it turned out pretty enjoyable anyway, but you'll need to watch End of Evangelion for the real ending.

>>158558151
Not that Lilith and Adam. EU lore is that they're either 2 out of a total 7, or that there are 7 types and thousands of each.

>>158558334
They ran out of resources but not out of ideas. Everything said during the TV ending is totally valid and important for characterization and resolution of the cast.

I think i like the tv ending a little better because im a sucker for just sitting down and solving your problems in fiction. This kind of stuff is EXTREMELY uncommon in fiction, even though 99% of all fiction drama starts from miscommunication. It was simply carthatic to see that happening.

EoE, for all its amazing presentation, it still was mostly shinji doing his own resolution with only 2 more people around him

>>158558422
Well yeah, they obviously had other good ideas because I don't think the ending that we got was bad. Still prefer EoE myself because it ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN

>>158558422
> resolution of the cast

Does it though? The mystery of Rei III and Kaworu goes unanswered, Asuka's still in a coma, and Gendo just goes "lol lets start Human Instrumentality"

>>158558523
I mean, how gendo did it was a small detail at most.
Asuka isnt on a coma anymore, you cant be on a coma while instrumentalized (fucking kaji pops up in the tv end and hes been dead for 10 days) . She has half a chapter dedicated to her own mental resolution
Rei and kaworu were kept mistery. And i think it is good. If anno had blown that load during the tv ending, EoE would lose a lot of its impact. Also rei dont need a therapy session, she already understand everything and solved all her problems by instrumentality start.

>>158550990
here's what you gotta do

1. leave /a/
2. never come back