Is anime ever going to have villains you can take serious?

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VNs are better at that.

Satania is the strongest and she WILL corrupt the humans

Please stop the bullying. Satania might be a bit of a goofball but she is nowhere near as incompetent as Abaddon is.

>>158428150
as if you could take abbadon the armless serious too.

>>158428150
Yes, next season.

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>>158428150
>comparing dork with abbadon

Please.

>>158428150
Could've posted fucking Horus instead of that gigantic fuckup.

Even Magnus is about thirty times as scary despite jobbing all the time.

>>158428150
Come on anon Satania is nowhere near as baka as Abaddon.

>>158428150
Abaddon a shit.
Archaon best girl.
Only sick fucks with an amputee fetish like Abaddon. Not even the Chaos Gods like Abaddon.

>>158428150
Well don't watch Slice of Life comedies and expect good villains you retard

>>158428150
maybe if you watch more than two anime

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>>158428150
Abbadon the harmless was never serious.

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>>158434088
>yfw realizing Abaddon is the comedic relief of the 40k universe that keeps breaking the immersion, that no one likes yet keeps showing up because the writers think he plays an important role because of vague ties to important plot elements but no direct involvment in any action

>>158434088
>>158432574
>>158432388
>>158430647

Don't bully Abbadon.

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>>158428150
>Abaddon
>serious threat

Pick one and one only.

The only good villains in 40K are all Dark Eldar. Vect, Duke Sliscus, Lady Malys, Drazhar, etc.

>>158434395
Comorraehboo

>>158434362
Bullying Abaddon is canonically encouraged.

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>>158434395
>Dark Eldar
>edgy sadomasochist bunch of space elf
>implying they are a threat or serious.

>>158432388
isn't the whole point that they're both fuckups

>>158434395
>NPC race
>a serious threat

lol

>>158434578
The most serious threat of the 40k universe is unironically orks.
Think about it.
It doesn't matter how many of them you kill, as long as they stepped on a planet, their spores are there and they will never leave. Even if you kill them all, they will regrow. The only way to get rid of them us to exterminatus the whole thing.
And they can wish things into existence. That's the really scary part of the canon no one remembers : orks just know how things work, somehow, and even if they don't they naturally do warp shenanigans and can wish spaceships with no life support into flying and carrying them from planet to planet.
It's like the nids except fueled by the power of imagination.

>>158434667
But anon, every faction that isn't the Ultramarines is an NPC faction with the sole exception of the Blood Ravens

>>158434578
>>158434667
Times Abaddon has jobbed: 13

Times Vect has jobbed: 0

Pure, unbiased math indicates that Chaos a shit.

>>158434664
Horus set up Manus' death and Magnus' fall, killed Sanguinius and crippled Emperor. And he looks awesome.

Aby failed to killed fat, old man in front of him and got stabbed in the ass by depowered Celestine. And he looks silly, and is overshadowed by Daemon Primarchs.

>>158428150
Have you seen GSD? Durandal is a god-tier villain.

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40k anime when

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>>158434708
>The most serious threat
I remember that canonically its that zerg-like things

>>158434779
>and is overshadowed by Daemon Primarchs.

I wonder if he ever asks the gods about that.

>"H-hey guys, uh, so, I'm you're champion, right? Your greatest champion?"
>...
"Not... n-not in right now? Okay, I'll leave a message. It's just that, y'know, all these other guys? They seem to have much cooler stuff than me. And have you seen their statlines?"
>...
>"Yeah, uh, cool, you're not around, right. I guess we'll talk about it... later? Cool..."

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>Satania is the anime girl version of Abbadon
This makes sense.
Tzeentch is the only dude anyone needs to be worried about.

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Literally Johan Liebert.

Also failbaddon the armless is irrelevant now that the big smurf is back.

>suns burn out one day
>everything dead
>some ork pokes his head up and says, "id dark, me feet cold, turn da lites back on"
>Big Bang happens
>universe is reborn
>so it can all happen again

Satanichia is actually a good girl

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I want to marry her and I don't even like cakes

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>>158434775
Nids, orks and necrons are more of a threat than edgy sadomaso space elf.

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Orks are retarded and necros are just a bunch, tiranyds is where the end is

>>158437071
>Orks are retarded
That's exactly what makes them smart.

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>>158435075
It's implied that the Nids are running from Orks.

>Ahriman is the student council president with a new, convoluted plan every episode.

>>158437164
Why?
They ate them?

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>>158434775

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>>158432574
40k dropout
Abbadon = Satania
Slaanesh = Raphi
Nurgle = Gabu
Emprah = Vigne

>>158437231
They all in involve the library for some reason

>>158434708
It's not they know how things work, it's that things work accordingly to how much they believe in them to work. Like that time this one ace ork pilot was a flyng a damaged god damn plane that had no fuel or wings. Or engine. He just knew he had to go kick some ass and that's exactly what he did.

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Hirano said he wanted to do some warhammer based manga some years ago, I wonder if he can do it legally

there was a necron who jewed the imperium out of a world by getting the blood angels to tag along in activating a super weapon that cleansed the entire system of tyranids
and the necrons were totally unharmed

>>158437435
I mean with the amount of really really crappy IP licensed wh40k stuff, I can't imagine GW is all that picky.

>>158437435
>>158437485
GW is actually pretty protective over their IP. They only let a few folks release stuff using it.
Which incidentally is why a lot of the material is so shit : since they also happen to be penny-pinchers, they too often go for some smaller companies that will do a half-assed job. Particularly when it comes to movies.
There are some lucky shots like the first Dawn of War series that didn't cost them much since THQ was broke then.

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Gurren Lagann is Ork propaganda

>>158437543
>Production IMS wh40k anime
YES

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>>158437482
>Wardian canon
>ever

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>2 40k threads up
not like I mind, but is there a reason?

>>158437233
>Nids steal ork genes
>Nids just become orks
What a nightmare

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>>158437744
It's even worse than you think, but not for the reasons you think.
One looks stupid, the other is the fucking pyrovore.
I heard that it's not as shit as it used to be though

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>>158437723
I think OP saw the other thread, and then saw the Satania thread, and wanted to make a thread about villains.
But then /atg/ crowd hijacked the thread.

Or would you rather have another Satania thread?

>>158438029
>But then /atg/ crowd hijacked the thread.
In what way is that a bad thing?

>>158438029
>OP saw the other thread, and then saw the Satania thread, and wanted to make a thread about villains.


Actually, I was playing Vermintide and the rats remind me of raphi so I started the thread

>>158428150
It's true, failbaddon the harmless is really hard to take seriously.

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>>158438137
>In what way is that a bad thing?

I didn't say it was a bad thing. Unless you take my comment regarding having another Satania thread as something more desirable than another /atg/ thread.

I miss her

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Ding Dong! Ding Dong!

>>158437231
Ahriman is going to win in the end. I can feel it.

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>>158428150
of course

>>158428150
No because anime is for manchildren and like them it's not to be taken seriously.

Honestly, the only thing warhammer-related I find entertaining is blood bowl.

>>158439907
The concept of a villain isn't something to be taken seriously to be fair either. Unless you are trying to pull of some kind of modern take on a legend, fairytale or fable or using characters like that symbolically then if you have a "villain" in your anime or anything else you probably never intended it to be taken anymore seriously that a piece of entertainment to begin with.

>>158428150
Hard distinction between villain and heroes don't exist in Anime. It exist in western media because of the nature of duality between good/evil carried over from Zoroastrianism and passed down to Christianity. However this dilemma doesn't really exist in the east. What exists are human emotions and dynamics. Withing good individuals there can be some bad parts and within bad individuals there are some good ones. Comic book villains are childish ideas afterall, if you still want that, you should go back to /co/.

>>158440061
I don't think I would argue with the idea that western media has a tendency to rely more on that duality of good/evil but anything that is taking itself seriously as more than just entertainment will almost never do that unless it is trying to do something clever playing with conventions setup by that kind of thing. Most serious art is just as much about "human emotions and dynamics" as anything made anywhere else in the world. Just a bit of an over generalisation really. You can find examples of "comic book" villains and such from nip shit too if you want. Just as you can find examples of flawed heroes from western media.

>>158428150
I prefer the giga giantess

>>158439887
Oh look a dead ant with cheats killed by a 140 years old fart having the time of his life at it

>>158435107
He refuses to become a demon prince. Because that would be admitting that he could also not do what horus failed to do, kill the imperium While still mostly "Human"

Didn't the most recent codex ruin the galaxy so badly now it has an eye of terror-like scar from one side to the other?

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>>158441503
There's also another thread here >>158375390

>>158442132
>Cadia fell

No... It's a joke, right?

>>158442403
The planet broke before the Guard did.

>>158442403
One of the primarchs is back though, so the most astounding thing is the fact that the story is being moved forwards.

>>158442132
What happens on Bakka?

>>158442403
The planet couldn't take it any more.

>>158442403
abbadon the failure wanted to control cadia but being the joke that he is he ended up destroying the pylons that made it so good of a gate between the eye of terror and the rest of the galaxy, also destroying the planet, but as some people already pointed out, he lost to a fat guy with a cigar, a depowered Celestine and an army of guys with laser pointers

and Trazyn the Infinite who seems to have "taken" Creed for his collection

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>>158442547
Creed was literally the only survivor wasn't he? I'm pretty sure the Cadian shock troops are all dead.

>>158442605
nah, a big chunk of them were at different places in the galaxy so they still exist.

>>158442132
Hive Fleet Leviathan is attacking Baal and daemons are also on their way.

How fucked are the Blood Angels?

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>>158442547
>>158442559
>Pulling a Frieza
What a fag

>>158437164
It's implied the the Tyranids are fleeing to our galaxy from another threat, but it can't be the Orks, since they're from our galaxy.

>>158434775
Didn't Vect job when a bunch of Slaaneshi daemons invaded Commorragh, and the fucking Mandrakes of all people beat them back?

>>158442826
The Daemons killed all the Tyranids attacking Baal because they don't want anyone killing the Blood Angels but them

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I don't understand 80% of the posts ITT i will just post a satanichia

>>158442132
That other thread is about orks and no one cares about that dakkafags

>>158443867
Yea, but then it turns out that the mandrakes were only so powerful because they were having their own civil war with Tzeentch and Nurgle commanding the opposing sides and were looking for allies/trying to establish their own dominance. But it was JUST AS PLANNED because he wanted to get rid of the dark eldar who were susceptible to chaos. He had the Castigators hidden dark eldar wraithlords clean them up. Assuming you mean the "Path of" dark eldar series.

>>158428150
Is WH40K ever going to have a cohesive plot?

Death to the corpse god.

>>158444920
Nope, this is during the Gathering Storm stuff
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Asdrubael_Vect#Dark_Times_Ahead.3F

I want to get into WH40k but I'm a poorfag who can't into gaming.

>>158444982
Whoops, meant to link to the "Vect Decay" section below that

>>158435137
I forgot all about Rowboat Girlyman.

>>158444984
Read the novels, play the games, and read the lore. Nobody but fa/tg/uys care about the actual tabletop game.

Or get your figs on the cheap from Aliexpress.

>>158442559
>an army of guys with laser pointers
You mean flashlights, because if the guard had actual laser pointers that would make them somewhat effective.

>>158444982
Man, I don't even like Vect but that's still awful what they did to him. Everytime GW wants to do some end times bullshit they shaft all the characters they don't dick suck.

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>all this Abaddon bullying

It's not right! Stop it, stop being so mean!

>>158428150
Mereum

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>>158437435
Well there is a manga called Deep Strike Force by this dude:

http://thebrave69star.fakefur.jp/about/mfc3.htm

>>158442605
Creed got 'acquired' by a certain Necron Lord for his collection.

>>158439958
>Bloodbowl is now a sports anime.

>>158444984
Just read the books, i thought horus heresy series was pretty entertaining. If you like scifi stuff. It has a ton of books too so you can keep reading, though the quality differs between the authors

>>158445513
>Gathering Storm
>confronts depowered Celestine and Creed, leaders of resistance
>instead of killing them, he starts monologuing, allowing Celestine, who is at that point just standard SoB, to stab him in the ass with her burning sword
>instead of killing the two of them, he goes "i'll get you next time!" and pathetically teleports back to his ship
>Celestine and Creed get away

>>158443841
Has this become the official reason why the Nids are invading our galaxy in the first place?

>>158428150
That's not Frieza

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>>158428150
If you want villians stop watching slice of life.

>>158450536
>Griffith
>villain

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>>158442403

>>158445136
How do you call a lasgun with a laser pointer?
Twin-linked

>>158428150
KURUMIZAWA SATANICHIA MCDOWELLU: Is already on Holy Terra and it will be only a matter of time before Earth becomes hers.

Abaddon: never managed to reach Holy terra despite 13 attempts.

>>158439824
>best girl wins in the end
noice

>>158445197
>meanwhile Roboute Girlyman gets yet another fluff-buff and Matt Ward's dick explodes

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>>158445513
He is the satanichia of WH

Would Satania align herself with Chaos if she ever ended up the Warhammer 40k universe?

all of the JoJo parts have villains that you can take seriously

>>158453297
>sex drive: zero

>>158453322
Idk man, the magnet lady in part 3 was pretty sexy.

>>158453344
I'm talking about Kars.

>>158453424
imy confused

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>>158437164
It's The Harrowing.

>>158434362
Don't stop.

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think of it this way: if chaos villains stopped jobbing you'd get age of smegmar equivalent for the 40k universe, is that what you really want?

Johan.

>>158454580
I just want them to acknowledge that this whole war thing isn't working out so well for them and that peace and harmony isn't all that bad anyway.

>>158437744
>>158437897
isn't there some sector that is in a permanent state of ork vs nid fighting for decades since some inquisitor directed the orks there? and it is implied that both sides have become ruthless as orks adapt to nids and nids adapt to orks and that if any side wins the fight the universe is fucked as it will have to deal with the monstrous victors

>>158450536
>griffith
>villain
Fuck off underaged delusional gutsfag

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>>158454653
Yup. Octarius. Kryptman directed the 'nids toward the orks there, mainly because they'd otherwise be on a straight course toward Terra and it sounded like the least terrible of options at the time...

>>158454613
But then there won't be blood flowing.
You can't expect Kharn to open a cattle butcher and tannery.

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>>158454580
I will never forgive nor forget the vile assassination of Fantasy.

>>158454917
But working in a tannery would give him a valid excuse to collect the urine of everybody in the city.
Think of the possibilities.

>>158454580
Chaos villains job because it's chaos: Blood will stop flowing, no more JUST AS PLANNED shit, no more despair and lastly no more crank up shit to 11 extreme shit.

Malal did it

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>>158455097
>yfw Imperium decides to stop trying and stops giving a shit about chaos altogether because no matter how well or how poorly they defend, chaos will never win because winnign would destroy its reason to exist
>yfw entire armies of chaos spontaneously combust in front of space marines idly watching while eating pop corn and drinking the blood of millions of civilians