Why aren't you watching anime in 1080p?

for tv anime there's barely any difference between 720p and 1080p

I was told anime was drawn in 720p

I still don't have a 1080p monitor

Maybe you need a better computer for upscaling.

your eyes can't see more than 720p anyway

Because you have to get a subscription or you can only watch in SD.

>>158361522
Because I watch it at 1440p.

I don't watch anime

720p takes up less space.

>>158361522
Top one is 1080.

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http://anibin.blogspot.ca

The majority of new seasonal anime contains >720p lineart. Thus, you are losing detail by downloading 720p downscales. And yes, all 720p anime these days is downscaled, even anime with 720p lineart. Anime studios give distributors their anime in HDCAM-SR, meaning 1080p. In addition, services like Crunchyroll and especially Funimation downscale anime poorly to 720p.

The typically poor bilinear/bicubic upscales of >720p lineart you'll find in many 1080p releases can be made to look full 1080p or close to it through a combination of realtime sharpening and denoising. For anime with >720p lineart you will get better results sharpening and denoising the 1080p release than the 720p release.

Fansubbers still overwhelmingly release 720p and anime viewers still overwhelmingly download 720p because people are dumb. The 720p dogma needs to be eliminated.

>>158362137
This is the cartel's fault

>>158361522
I don't see a difference.

>>158362137
>anime
*animes

Does the plot get better if it's in 1080p?

I didn't fucking think so.

>>158362137
What I think sub groups should actually be doing is looking at anibin and either releasing 1080 BD rips properly downscaled to anibin's estimated lineart resolution, or, downscaling 1080p BD rips to anibin's estimated lineart resolution, upscaling to 1080p with something nice like NGU AA or NNEDI3 and applying some tasteful sharpening and denoising and releasing the result. I think this would maximize the quality of releases.

>>158362137
>.ca
A fucking leaf.

>>158363421
Oh, and just to note, NGU source code got posted on /g/ yesterday, so yes, doing non-realtime NGU upscaling outside of MadVR will be a possibility very soon.

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>>158363440
The normal blogspot URL was filtered here last I tried it so I've always used .ca.

>>158361809
>not reading manga in 4K

>>158363539
>not watching anime in uncompressed AVI with WAV audio
>not reading manga in BMP or TIFF format

>>158362137
>For anime with >720p lineart you will get better results sharpening and denoising the 1080p release than the 720p release.
I should add that almost all anime with lineart in between 720p and 1080p will contain non-scanned visual content (like CG) at full 1080p, so this is another reason to prefer the 1080p release over the 720p release. In some cases with a good upscaling algorithm like NGU AA you'll be able to get the lineart of a 720p release with >720p lineart to look as good as a sharpened and denoised 1080p release, but the non-scanned content will not look as good.

https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/135022952/#135025563

Daiz says:

>So basically, most of the industry uses Retas for making the digital animation cels, and it has issues with resolutions beyond a certain point, and about the most you can get out of it is ~955.5p.

This would explain why anibin estimates KyoAni's lineart to be 955.5p, but can anyone confirm that Retas has issues with full 1080p?

This post of Daiz's seems to contradict https://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2015/04/24/photography-and-resolution-of-anime/ which I've seen posted here before as "proof" that KyoAni anime actually have full 1080p lineart and that anibin is wrong, but this "proof" seems to hinge on a screenshot of KyoAni animators working in what appears to be After Effects at 1080p, not in Retas.

>>158361610
The human eyes can also not see more than 2 tone shadings.

>>158364390
>daiz

>>158365368
I don't 100% believe everything he says just because he's Daiz. That's exactly why I'm asking for someone to confirm that Retas has issues with full 1080p.

>>158361522
I had to test this because I thought my eyes where messing with me, but the top is slightly clearer and sharper. I mostly noticed it on Eli though.

>>158364390
The ~955.5p thing is for the actual lineart, which is done in Retas. After that work happens in Adobe After Effects, where it's usually done at either 720p or 1080p. This means that while effects can be full 1080p, the actual lineart simply gets upscaled from 955.5p to 1080p at this point.

I originally got my info on this matter from someone who was quite familiar with Retas and related stuff.

>>158365873
Impossible. You aren't supposed to actually exist.

>>158365873
What about anime like Prison School that anibin says has full 1080p lineart? Not done in Retas?

>>158361522
My computer overheats and the video starts lagging increasingly bad until the computer forces a shutdown. So 720p for me.

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>>158365873
Oh, I actually linked the relevant tweets in that archive post, nice. His account is currently protected, but here's a screenshot of the first one and the pastebin link in question:

https://pastebin.com/afuYCqAK

>>158365928
How new are you that you've never seen him post?

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>>158365873
BE GONE DEMON!

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>>158361522
I watch blu-rays only so I do unless it is something old that doesn't have a high-res version yet.

>>158366031
I'm a filthy crossboarder, I don't exactly read every /a/ thread that gets posted.

>>158366030
ultimatemegax is a stupid KyoAni fanboy who got kicked out from GAF for his nonsense.

>>158365969
I don't really know, to be honest. I don't really pay too much attention to it myself since the industry moves so slowly in this regard that I generally just let it filter to me through people paying more attention to inner industry working stuff in general. I wouldn't expect the situation to have changed all that much overall, though.

Somewhat related though, it'll be interesting to see how the Your Name UHD BD will turn out... pretty sure the movie was authored at 1080p so it's going to be an upscale for sure, but the real question is whether it will be a simple upscale (good) or get fucked by QTEC or similar like SD show BDs tend to (which would be awful).

>>158366030
Thanks for posting that pastebin. That explains it well, particularly https://i.imgur.com/JBkUqlt.jpg as evidence.

>>158361522
I do. I have no reason to download 720p because 1080 downloads in less than 5 minutes anyway and I don't have data caps.

>>158366030
>https://pastebin.com/afuYCqAK
It seems like, logically, the industry should just be drawing on 13 1/3" x 7.5" paper, scanning at 144 dpi and not cropping anything, with the result being 1920x1080 in RETAS, as long as RETAS doesn't actually have problems with this resolution. It seems to me like if a problem with RETAS and 1080p were known in 2015 it'd be fixed by now.

>>158363539
>he reads
What are you, educated?

mostly download speed for me which is comparable to 56k secondary reason hdd space

>>158361522
Tv isnt aired on 720p unless its blueray avoid 1080.

>>158361522
I tried watching the Love Live film in 1080p and the playback got laggy at certain points, usually during songs. I guess my laptop isn't up to it. The difference between 480p and 720p is much bigger than that between 720p and 1080p anyway from what I find

>>158361522
Because it takes up too much hard drive space for minimal visual improvement over 720p.

>>158367335
>minimal visual improvement over 720p.
This depends on the anime. Some anime, like Prison School, will exhibit an extreme visual improvement over 720p.
http://anibin.blogspot.ca is your best resource for determining whether to download 720p or 1080p with regards to individual releases.

My laptop won't play it without lagging and it would be a waste of bandwidth.

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Why is every fucking release of Yuru Yuri S2 blurry? S1 didn't have this problem.

>>158361522
The top one is the 1080p, not only because is sharper but because the encoders fucked up the 720p.

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>>158366296
HE WAS KICKED OUT FROM GAF?!
HOW?!

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>>158370107
Seriously what the fuck is this? Looks like they ran a Photoshop gaussian blur filter over the whole thing. The FFF release is worse and the Horriblesubs release is laughable. Did the anime studio or the distributor fuck up on this?

>>158370581
>Doki

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>>158361522
>he doesn't watch anime vertically

>>158370754
All the other releases are even worse visually, but thanks for your opinion, cartel.

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>>158361522
>He doesn't watch anime at 236p

I mean, I watch BD rips in 1080. sure.

There's no point in watching TV broadcast above 720.

>>158371111
Horriblesubs 1080p releases are often the visually best available source until BDs are available.

>>158371111
Checked

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Okay faggots, based on these results from MediaInfo which is worth watching?

>>158371664
What anime is it?

>>158371794
Active Raid. Assume I actually want to see it instead of saying "it's shit, don't bother".

>>158371842
Anibin says it's 720p lineart, so there's no point in downloading the 1080p release for this particular show. Check anibin with regards to each individual anime before you decide to download 720p or 1080p. You generally do this by Googling the name of the anime, finding its Japanese name, copying the Jap name to clipboard, then Googling that and anibin together.

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>>158371111
>tfw downloaded all the Hibike's BDRips
>Phillips TV can't read it
>But it can read all the 1080p HorribleSubs

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>>158372854
>viewing anime without a PC

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>not cropping your anime for a more cinematic experience
What's your excuse?

>>158361522
I watch it at 360p.

>>158372722
I try to do that for Attack on Titan S2 and this was second link: http://anibin.blogspot.com/2017_03_30_archive.html
What does the list indicate?

>>158373192
Obviously you would cntl-f for 進撃の巨人 on that page. It says HV1280+/857 for that show, meaning 857p lineart. This means that you will benefit from downloading the 1080p version of that show. You may wish to add a little sharpening with MadVR or mpv for maximum quality when viewing 1080p releases of shows with lineart inbetween 720p and 1080p.

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>>158373033
That's the point, watching it on TV with just the pendrive.

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>>158373440
>viewing anime without MadVR or mpv enhancements like smooth motion, debanding, high quality chroma upscaling, etc.

>>158363421
You can't downscale the BD to the original resolution without losing more information.

>>158373656
Debilinear and debicubic exist.
Also, see:
>>158056110
>>158056182
Competently downscaling to lineart resolution and then upscaling to 1080p using a superior method to anime studios' simple bilinear/bicubic upscaling will produce a superior result to the anime studios' 1080p release.

>>158373299
Did some googling around, but I want to confirmation. HV1280, I should watch 720p version and HV1280+, or HVFULL, I should watch 1080p?

>>158373507
Smooth motion/interpolation and high quality upsampling comes by default on Smart TV, you dense mongoloid.

>>158373829
Correct.
>>158373869
I really fucking doubt that your television's upscaling is as good as NGU AA. Also, debanding is the primary reason to use mpv or MadVR with anime.

I just stream in 1080 if there is an option too.

>>158373869
Also, I really doubt your television does high quality chroma upscaling specifically.

>>158373812
It doesn't matter what appears to look better. Upscaling is irreversible without the edge values unless it is by a factor of 2. If you think it looks better, then do it on your own computer.

>>158374157
>It doesn't matter what appears to look better.
>subjective improvement is worthless because muh signal purity
You're the same kind of superstitious idiot who refuses to equalize audio because "muh signal purity."

What are the best streaming sites that offer 1080p

>>158374374
>>158373984

Kill yourself

Because I'm legally blind so it makes literally no difference.

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>he doesn't exclusively download episodes from kissanime and in 480p to save space

newfags I swear