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Is sex with SHIKI gay?
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Yes.
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No.
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>>157732583
Maybe
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Garden of oblivion adaptation when?
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Spiritually gay, but there's nothing wrong with it.
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I must be super-gay
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>>157732583

Yes, you fag.

Shiki > Shiki > SHIKI > Shiki
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>>157732583
shiki, shiki, SHIKI, or shiki?
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>>157732583
You're pounding a boy in the body of a woman. So the real answer is to just love Shiki.
As Mikiya said, gender is irrelevant.
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>>157734714
>written specifically so it could never be adapted
Never.
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Why would you want to have sex with Shiki?
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What happens to the mana a person transfer to Void during a Mana Transfer if she is [ ]?
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>>157736009
She has a sexual, thin body and a perfect face.
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>>157736015
Shiki isn't a Servant, fuck off with GO's nonsensical pandering crap.
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>>157735857
>dirtying Shiki with nasty blonde hair
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>>157736153
You seem upset.
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I want Shiki to act like a man when fucking me.
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>>157736248
Which artbook is this from?
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>>157736258
I wanna be Shiki's bottom bitch.
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>>157736319
Sorry, I have no idea.
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>>157732667
>>157734419
>>157734463
>>157735195

On a Kinsey scale, where would sex with SHIKI place best?
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>>157736596
0, she is physically a woman, mind has absolutely no influence.
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>>157732583
Would SHIKI know the best spots to lick since he's a guy?
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>>157736248
Are these A cups or would they classify as B and why is she so damn flat.
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>>157739619

>why is she so damn flat
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>>157739619
She accidentally killed the concept of cowtits.
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>>157732583
Even if it was she could kill the concept I of "gay" anyway.
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>>157734714
UFO already closed the Kara no Kyoukai book. They aren't making any new stories. Nasu himself said he doesn't want them to adapt Garden of Oblivion.
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>>157732583
never watched this or tsukihime but isn't shiki the name of tsukihime's MC ?
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>>157742114
If only Nasu knew where to draw the line with Fate, too.
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>>157742527
No, that's Shiki.
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>>157742542
>>157734714
http://tsukikan.com/misc/kara-no-kyoukai-movie-nasu-kinoko-interview.html

Nasu: It's an extra for those who ventured out to see the movie, but even so it is a meaningful entry. Yet the second it were to start being sold off as a commercialized book, it would lose its meaning entirely. Once you read it you would immediately understand its place only as an addition to the movie. It's the same with why my name isn't on the front cover. It was also made with the idea that its story would be absolutely impossible to have a movie made out of it (laughs). As happy as I am that Kara no Kyoukai became a movie, despite having no such inkling while I was writing it, it belied just a bit of frustration as well. As a writer, I just have a feeling of not wanting my words to lose to film. This is why I wrote Garden of Oblivion in a way that couldn't possibly receive a movie adaptation, though it's more of a "If you think you can do it this time, give it your best shot!" sort of feeling (laughs).
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no, SHIKI is the tomboy personality of her.
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>>157742527
Kara no Kyoukai is a collection of 7 (an 8th chapter was released in 2008) seemingly independent stories featuring the same set of characters, each chapter tells the story of Ryougi Shiki, a girl who, like Tsukihime's Tohno Shiki, also has the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. According to Nasu, since two people with the Eyes of Death Perception cannot exist in the same world, the story of Kara no Kyoukai actually takes place in a alternate world that's just like the Tsukihime world, or something.
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>>157736153
>Shiki isn't a servant
Too bad she's a servant now too
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>Shiki and Mikiya is so OTP that even their VAs are married
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Why aren't there many/good doujins featuring Shiki?

Is it because the series is too boring?
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>>157742781
KnK got confirmed to actually occur in Fate's world.

>>157743074
She's too pure so no one wants to defile her.
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>>157743060

I never knew this. You just made my day, anon.

>>157743074

Shiki is not for lewd!
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>>157739527
This question needs answers.
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>>157735748
How can you write something specifically so it can never be adapted to film?
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>>157743074
Same reason as to why there's virtually no Gunnm doujins, the girls are simply too good for it.
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>>157743305
G Senjou no Mao
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>>157736153
too bad secondary, nasu made it canon.
FGO is the new leader now, bow down
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>>157742781
So they are the same person? Just gender-bendered?

Is it worth watching?
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>>157743519
Explain
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Reminder that Shiki > SHIKI > SHIKI > Shiki > Shiki
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>>157743587
>Is it worth watching?

Go for it. Kara no Kyoukai: The Garden of Sinners is a spectacular experience

Tsukihime, Kara no Kyoukai, and Mahoutsukai no Yoru are classics.

>Tsukihime download
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/1705201

After that, Type Moon went on to make Fate/Stay Night and the rest is history.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13044248
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>>157742542
The money of a brand new, idiotic mobile fanbase unfortunately talks a lot louder than artistic sensibility in that case.
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>>157743019
>fuck off with GO's nonsensical pandering crap.
She's as much of a Servant as Illya, Kuro, Kiritsugu, Irisviel, Rin, Waver Velvet, and fucking Taiga are.
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>>157746599
In this industry, I can understand why profit over art might be desired.
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>>157746888
I highly doubt TM was having money trouble before GO, with how much the ufotable adaptations expanded the fanbase.
It's pure greed with little regard for quality.
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>>157746599
Honestly if he wants to write more Fate whilst making tons of easy cash, good for him, but I'm kind of tired of it.
I don't hate FGO, but I don't know if I'll ever try it, even if it's got decent writing, I'm just exhausted with the entire core Fate premise, and the sort of sci fi aspect isn't very appealing compared to . If he ever does something else I might have another look.
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>>157747754
*compared to his more typical urban fantasy material
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>>157747103
Seriously, didn't FSN sales exceed all expectations?
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>>157747754
I agree in not only the setting (urban fantasy is part of what I loved about Fate/Tsuki/KnK), but also the characters. A solid cast that evolves throughout the story was really well done in his old works, throwing in as many Servant waifus as possible and introducing them in episodic batches is just not the same at all.

I don't mind that he enjoys it, but I do dislike how central it is to everything, and how the last non-Fate work was 5 years ago. The complete removal of non-Servant characters and the switch to self-insert protagonist just makes it worse.
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how do I have a threesome with Maaya and Kenichi?
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>>157748338
What do you have to offer to the perfected, ultimate form of a heterossexual loving relationship?
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>>157748373
A bleached boy pussy.
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>>157748462
Oh...
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>>157732583
Probably but it's established Kokutou still would.
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>>157732583
>mind of a man
>body of a woman

It's the best of both worlds anon.
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>>157732583
Is sex with MURDER gay?
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>>157732583
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>>157732583
Counts as fate right?

Viva la France!
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>>157749022
This, SHIKI is a bro and would know exactly what a man needs.
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>>157732583
SHIKI is basically a locon trap.
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>>157749214
This is a different girl, right?
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>the 1st Kara no Kyoukai film is over 10 years old

Just fucking kill me.
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>>157749639
>10 years
It isn't 10 until December.
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>>157749307
It is.
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>>157749022
That's how Nasu wrote all of his heroines
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>>157751082
But then why are the boys so much better than the girls?
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>>157751082
Not all of them. Arc, Akiha, Sakura and various others are all distinctly feminine.
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>>157751180
Fate story was still a chapter of Shirou's story. Saber serves as his foil. The overachieving story is still Shirou's. There's also the matter of Saber's gender. When Nasu wrote Fate, he saw Saber as a male character who he tried desperately to persuade himself (and Saber) he's a girl. He still says Rin is of "another gender of Saber", so he basically wrote what in his head was a guy designed as a girl so that probably contributed to how he didn't fuck Arturia up.

The point remains is that he absolutely fucking fails when he tries to make a girl's story as the main skeleton of his work. It's probably one of his limitations as a writer. I think Mahoyo has similar issues. I was shitposting earlier, but I sincerely think he struggles a lot to make a girl the focus of the main plot. That's why Extella came out as specially fucked up.

I'm sure if he was telling the story of a main character as background to grow his plot and waifu stuff, the game would have been better. Not because of muh husbando or muh fujoshit, or something like that, but because his female characters focus too much on one note romance and which doesn't make the general plot interesting.

Girls are only popular because they don't get a focus on them. Look at the huge Nero backlash. Extella and Septem are hated while Camelot and Babylon (who main focus is a story of a guy) are praised.

Fate works the best when the main core story is of a main character with waifufanservice exposure as a dress up. Shirou in FSN. Kiritsugu in FZ. Sieg (despite the problems) in Apocrypha. Sigma and Flat (with Ayaka as 1/3 of Master Protagonists) in Strange Fake. Arthur in Fragments (Manaka is not the focus, despite the meme). Solomon in FGO.
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>>157743074
I'm gonna make one, fuck you dumb not-for-lewdfags. Those are the best characters for lewd you stupid faggots.
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>>157746676
Kuro is literally a Servant, she even needs mana doses to stay alive.

Kiritsugu isn't a Servant, he's a Counter Guardian who was summoned in a Servant container, just like EMIYA was.

Rin isn't a servant, but she's being possessed by a goddess and her body is being used as a pseudo-servant container, same as Mashu.

The rest I don't know enough Moonspeak to understand what context the rest are servants in FGO.
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>>157751379
>western "eromanga"
Don't even bother.
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>>157751180
He's always favored the guys, he just writes waifubaits for easy cash grabs to the fanbase, but keep in mind to him Fate is mostly a story of guys, with some girls there. Proto is Arthur's quest for the grail (he and not Ayaka is called the protagonist), FSN was Shirou's, Zero was Kiritsugu's, so on. Only Extra gets more female narrative. From FSN, he's always favored Kotomine over any heroine (it was in an old FAQ), even Medusa who is his favorite girl there (or was, now he's a Rinfag). From FZ, he said his favorite was Iskandar. Hell Garden of Avalon, despite the huge Saber picture on the cover, is about Merlin.

Far Side ends up with Shiki Tohno's story. Why was Zero so successful? Raw emotion between men.
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>>157743074
Shiki isn't visually distinct enough for doujins to be made of her.

Her body is unimpressive, her hairstyle is unremarkable, and her canon nipples are very poorly drawn.

Shiki's main appeal comes from her personality and her lethality, neither of which is on display when she's getting gangbanged by a dozen black dudes. Thus, she's passed over in doujins for Rin, Saber, and Rider, who are all very visually distinctive and can be easily recognized with pretty much any art style.

The same can't be said for Shiki, however. Take off her clothes and ask someone other than Takeuchi or the manga artist to draw her, and she's a virtually unrecognizable generic anime girl.
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>>157751307
>Fate works the best
>proceeds to include examples where it wasn't at its best, like Apocrpyha and Solomon who isn't even a focus throughout most of GO's main story, and where the waifus are clearly more than "dress-up"
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>>157743966
>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
>classic

Anyway. Is the translation done already?
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>>157751414
>missing the point this hard
It's all pure fanservice trash in something that's pretending to be a serious work.
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>>157751865
>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
>not type-moon's best visual novel

why do you ask on 4chan when you could check for yourself?
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>>157751865
Not that Mahoyo newfag.
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>>157751731
>Figure is too underdevoped to be conventionally sexy
>Too developed to pass for loli or even just JC-build
>Face and hairstyle aren't hugely distinct
>Japanese girl who actually has a fairly restrained character design when you get past the leather jacket over kimono (clothes going to be less of an issue in h-doujinshi)
Yeah, she didn't stand much chance of getting doujins, for sure.
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>>157751931
Because it's been so long that I don't even remember who was translating it
>>157752001
Don't try so hard to fit in, that shit wasn't even released.
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>>157752134
Melty Blood is now on Steam. Fate/hollow ataraxia's English patch is finished.

Go to mirror moon forums or beast's lair for translation patches.
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>>157751180
>>157751082
>>157751253
Shiki is like Saber: androgynous enough for him to pretend she's a guy. Nasu work fine as long there's some gender confusion.
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