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Koe no Katachi

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How did MC grow up to be so lame when his mom was David Bowie?
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>>157598370
Have you seen david bowie's son?

His greatest accomplishment is warcraft the movie.
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>>157598411
To be fair I can't imagine someone named Zowie Bowie would end up a successful adult.
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How can she still smile after all of this?
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>>157598599

I don't remember this happening in the manga.
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>>157598648
Why is she holding a turd?
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>>157598599
the real question is if she did it to herself as a gesture of apology, or if Nishimom did it to her
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>>157598664
Right after she talked to bitch mom when they're still kids.
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>>157598411
The Moon movie was okay desu
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>>157598712
If it was the latter, she'd be worse off than a torn earlobe.
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>>157598756

She looked a bit roughed up, I'm assuming it's the unintended result of a nishislap
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I just watched the Twin Peaks movie with David Bowie
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>>157598716
When can I expect a doujin of this development?
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My wife Ueno is so cute
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>>157599036
Is the only way to fix Ueno is to have her get together with Nishimiya?
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>>157599073
Have her NTR Nishimiya
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>>157599036
your wife is shit
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>>157599166
Back off cunt
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Ueno x Shouko Yuri hatefuck doujins when?

Kawai can watch
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>>157599250
/u/ pls go. Take Mugino with you.
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>>157599250
I'll allow it, but only if it's Shouko who loses it.
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>>157599036
Your wife is a 3DPD whore at heart.
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>>157598712
I always thought Shoko's mom slapped her and her hand/nails got stuck in Ishi-mom's huge ass earrings and ended up tearing because of the force
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Why did KyoAni make this movie I just felt like shit watching it and now feel shit after watching it. Probably would have avoided it if I knew the topics more.

Who likes watching things that make you feel bad like this?
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>>157599880
People that were never bullies
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>>157599880

Just be happy Kyoani didn't pick a source material that is complete garbage this time.
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>>157599880
I like watching movies like this because it's the only way for me to feel anything anymore.
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>>157599957
It's not even that. The whole thing was about two suicidal main characters who had faced abuse from their peers and were miserable for the majority of the movie.

Just makes you think about how pointless your own existence is and how awful people are rather than distracting from that.
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>>157599036
援交
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>>157598599
Why didn't she beat the shit out of Shoko's mom when it was her turn to apologize?
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>>157599880
Did it hit too close to home for you?
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>>157600180

Because she's a fucking saint. She tolerates her daughter breeding with a huehue deadbeat nigger.
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>>157600197
Yes I am a cute deaf anime girl who can't stand up for herself.
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>>157599880

low IQ faggots who've never felt a real emotion and need it spoonfed to them in the most unsubtle possible way.
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>>157600229
Did you also thought about killing yourself?
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>>157600180
She is jesus incarnate?
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>After rewatching it again: if you were enamored with Koe no Katachi as a *story*, then you likely won't care about the movie. Fair enough.
>(I like the manga, but I'm also very glad the movie softened the histrionics & removed arcs that existed only for the sake of serialization)
>A film needed trimming, but with different priorities they could've packed many more events and constructed a more standard coherent movie.
>But by now it's clear Yamada doesn't care about storytelling. It's something that happens by accident when she makes a film, not her goal.
>It's not even pragmatism - she'll actively obscure information if she feels that conveys the feeling she wanted better than being explicit, fill up the movie with cryptic imagery with precise meanings but make it so viewers who can't decipher it still sense something similar, and give the cast acting traits that aren't fully logical/tied to the narrative since that's what makes them people rather than characters.
What did he mean by this?
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Why is Ueno the best?
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>>157598370
No father, sister was a complete slut until she got Br'd. I mean any father would beat his son's ass if he heard he was bullying a little disabled girl.
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>>157600777
Because unlike Kowai she actually owns up to being a fucking bitch
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>>157600224
>her daughter breeding with a huehue deadbeat nigger
there must be a doujin of this
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>>157600876

We don't even know what his sister looks like
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>>157600746
Based Yamada
Storytelling is for brainlets
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>>157600746
Apparently the manga spoonfeeds every single plot detail and makes it really obvious, so this reviewer was upset to discover what subtext is.
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>>157598648
God the animation is actually insanely good, just in this one scene theres tons of details
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>>157600812
that's some fucked up anatomy
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>>157600942
>>157600746

The story actually holds together better in the movie than in the manga.
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>>157599036
Ueno a cute

a cuteeee
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would you date Ueno if you were Ishida?
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>>157601058
Of course. After she took care of him in the hospital.
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>>157601058
I don't think a person who isolates themselves from everyone would care about dating.
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>>157600197
my friend tried to commit suicide the exact same way Shouko did I'm happy he's okay
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>>157601058
She's only good for a pump and dump
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>>157601058
Nishimiya route only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oan79uUntNg
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>>157601137
But how? It's actually an almost fail-proof method.
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>>157601096
She took care of him alright.
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>>157599036

Why is she such a massive bitch?
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>>157601183
Slut
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>>157601211
You try having your life fucked up and not be pissed about it.
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>>157601222

How was her life fucked up? Anything bad that happened to her was all her own doing.
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>>157601146
you take that back!
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>>157601256
You don't honestly believe this do you?
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>>157601217
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>>157601327
Is she licking her lips? Whore.
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>>157601146
She's for marriage you sick cunt.
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>>157601183
>>157601327
Ueno stole Ishida's first kiss?
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I want to stab ueno
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>>157601058
If I was Ishida I probably would've pushed her in front of a train 2bh
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>>157601058
Stupid sexy Ueno with her sexy mannerisms.
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>>157601327

Why wasn't this in the film?
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>>157601426
It would be introducing another plot thread to the viewer and take too much time. Screentime is pretty important and even a few seconds is a lot. Ueno keeping the door closed was enough to convey all that it needed to.
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>>157598712
didn't the mc hurt the deaf girl's ear too? I thought it was retribution for that.
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Fuck, my heart can't take this cuteness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMBmvf8B9gU
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>>157601426
There were so many interesting parts that were left out.
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>>157601507
I almost died when I heard Shouko talking like a vocaloid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8xX1MbZVSE
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>>157601183
W-w-w-hat is she doing?
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>>157601548
The weird thing is she only talks like a vocaloid in some scenes, but actually sounds like a normal deaf person in other scenes. Makes no sense to me.
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>>157601020
too old
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>>157601591
Ueno Love Story when?
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>>157601551
Was anyone else impressed by the pencil lead scene? Loved to do that.
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>>157601604
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>>157601361
>>157601275
enjoukousai, 5yen for full service.
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>>157601657
I'm piss poor and only have a wooden pencil
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>>157601548

Why was the author against making them an official couple? Ishida is not the kind of guy to misinterpret what Shouko was trying to say like a clueless harem MC like that. That whole scene was stupid.
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>>157601659
What did Ueno mean by this gesture?
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>>157601616
Ueno is the miracle of the universe
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>>157598370
She's a single mum. Ishida had no male role model in the house. Single mums raise fucked up children. This is so obvious it shouldn't even bare mentioning. They're also clearly a lower middle-class family with financial difficulties etc.

I would've been surprised if Ishida didn't grow up fucked up in any way.
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>>157601693
Ishida didn't believe it was real because he's got no self confidence, anon.
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>>157601616
She's the kind of girl that ends up fucking her teacher for passing grades.
Fuck I can't wait for the doujinshis.
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Bueno with glasses!
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>>157601759
Glad someone got a screen of this, Ueno looked really cute.
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>>157601715
>Ishida didn't grow up fucked up in any way
Have you... Have you not seen the movie? Like, the first minute of it?
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>>157601507
>That "Yuzuru! Sorry Sorry!" moment

MY HEART UNGHHHHHHH SO CUTE :3
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>>157601781
bullying is normal you betafuck.
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>>157601836
Holy shit, you ACTUALLY have not seen the movie.
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>>157601852
Not that anon, but why would a bully watch this kind of movie anyways?
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Kawai is the worst fucking person out of them all. Sure she may not have directly bullied Shouko, but whenever somebody else does something to her she laughs like everyone else but then when she is confronted about it she starts crying and saying she didn't do anything or whatever. She did it as a little kid and she did it as an older teenager. God what a fucking bitch.
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>>157601426
Because it's irrelevant. We already know she likes him from the scenes showed.
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>>157601715
>She's a single mum. Ishida had no male role model in the house. Single mums raise fucked up children.

This is all of japan. Even when there is a father, he is at work nearly all his waking hours.
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>>157601781
How's your reading comprehension moron?
>I would've been surprised
Do you know what this^ means?
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>>157601995
she's just weak, that's her way of trying to avoid being bullied herself
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>>157601852
Learn to read cretin.
>>157602033
(not true by the way)
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>>157602095
The manga shows that she's literally delusional. She's worse there than in the movie.
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>>157601995
Kawai is a textbook psychopath.
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Might as well dump the chapter
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>>157602179
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>>157602158
>>157602179
>>157602200
The translation is so fucking bad...
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>>157602200
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>>157602272

>>157602218
This is the CR rip. The actual English print version is more frustrating because they make all characters call each other by their first names.
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>>157599250
Not until after we get Sahara x Shoko vanilla doujins.
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>>157602320
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>>157602320
>throws a pity party for herself because "i wuz bullied too!"
>shits on ishida as though he was the sole bully in the class
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>>157602338
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>>157602293
Anywhere I can read all the CR chapters for free?
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>>157602359

>>157602363
There used to be a Mega link with all the chapters, but I can't remember it.
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The funny thing is that Mashiba is gay. Kawai is fucking delusional.
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>>157602379
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>>157602363
Just download them.
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>>157602401
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>>157602410
Fucking where? Nyaa is dead and the replacement is slow as shit.
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>>157602401
kawai wa kowai
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>>157602421
>she thinks that's bullying
>she thinks it's comparable to shouko's bullying
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>157602421

>>157602438
Just check /a/'s archives from around mid-late 2014. Might help if you can find threads that had someone by the name of thaifag in them.
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>>157602401
>>157602421
Every time
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>>157602479
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>>157602498
End of chapter
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>>157602515
I'm too asutistic to understand why should I care for, understand or sympathize with any of those two utter cunts
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>>157602158
>>157602200
>>157602293
Ueno is an angel compared to this crazy cunt.
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Why does Kawai the lying bitch seem to escape karma? All that happens is she sees a private text insulting her-- that's the universe's punishment for being complicit in bullying a deaf child. And perhaps more importantly, everyone else in the main cast (besides Mashiba) seems to suffer horribly, so why is she exempt?
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>>157602570
Blonde cunt? She's fucking nuts. No sympathy.
Black hair cunt? Ehhh. She's sorta trying to redeem herself??
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>>157602585
psychopaths are usualy successful in life
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Kawai is such an empty, desperate cunt. Truly disgusting.
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>>157602570
Ueno's a bitch, but she's a bitch with reasons, and she's aware that what she's doing isn't winning her any popularity contests. She's also correct about Nishimiya's actions (or rather, her inaction) being wrong. Nishimiya can't keep being just a victim and trying to avoid conflict. She needs to stand up for herself and what she wants. She needs to fight back.

>>157602585
I think even Mashiba realizes it, but he ends up pitying her for it more than anything rather than attacking her for it because he realizes that she truly is delusional.
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>>157602661
I thought the whole point was that every single member of the cast is worthless human trash? Why do people seem so surprised by this?
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Did you have a Kawai in your school when you grew up?
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>>157602438
>Nyaa is dead
oh, right when I finally left that behind. even more feels
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Ueno a bitch.
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>>157598370
BLACKED
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>>157602696
how is Yuzu or Ishidamom or Sahara trash?
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>>157602696
Kawai doesn't have redeeming traits. She only hangs around with everyone else because Mashiba wants to hang around Ishida.

Mashiba is a different kind of crazy, but at least he grows through his.
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>>157602696
Why do you spergs always act like someone verbalizing their disgust about something means they're somehow surprised about it? Many of the characters are messed up, but Kawai is next level delusional bitch mode and never gets hers in the end.
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>>157602761
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>>157602821
Well she raised Ishida for one thing.
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>>157602852
What the fuck is up with this disgusting scan? Those fonts, that low quality compression.
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>>157602884
should have gotten an abortion
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>>157602907
Crunchyroll. Uncompressed scans would be nice
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>>157598511
Is it pronounced ZOW- E
or like Zoey?
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When Shoko was at the hospital with her grandmother, and she started crying, was that just confirming that the grandmother is going to die soon?
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Bad people: Ueno, Kawai, Shimada, Hirose, the teacher, Mashiba (not always though)
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>>157602987
You forgot Ishida and Shoko.
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>>157602401
All my hate is bubbling back up
>she never gets her comeuppance
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>>157599036
It reminded me that riding on a bike in tandem is not legal in Japan.
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>>157602401
Holy shit the manga is fucking awful. Glad I didn't read it.
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>>157602973
No, it was showing that Shoko's hearing was completely gone in one ear. Hence after they get home, Shoko was trying to hear something with her ear, but couldn't and started crying. It also shows why she stopped wearing a hearing aid.
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>>157602438
>the replacement is slow as shit.
nyaa.pantsu.cat works just fine. Loads in 1 second.
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>>157601865
I used to be a bully and i watch it. why not?
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>>157603026
Nah, they're pretty decent to good people.
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>>157601774
She always looked cute
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>>157601865
Because it's a great movie?
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>>157603380
I'm curious. Do you sympathize with Ishida and Shouko?
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>>157603361
It's mostly the later chapters, and the problem is melodrama and not knowing how to pace it satisfyingly after Ishida's fall. The movie got rid of the weak parts like the whole film subplot and melodrama overkill, but it also missed out on loads of great and memorable moments. Nagatsuka accidentally ending up with Ueno's confession letter meant for Ishida and then getting verbally annihilated by her after trying to come onto her is wonderful. The Big Friend "N" story was also great.
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>>157598370
It actually reminded of something about Disney.
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>>157601548
She sounds like a dog "trying" to talk.
Still cute tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYfMayTxO_c
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>>157603460
I would imagine not, it'd take a special kind of pathetic to actually sympathize with either of those two.
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>>157603482
They've both got crippling depression and low self-esteem like 90% of /a/. Also >>157602463
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I can't tell if that Mashiba guy is good or not.
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somebody fill this chart in
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>>157603482
> it'd take a special kind of pathetic to actually sympathize with either of those two.
Where the hell do you think you are.jpg
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>>157603464
>Nagatsuka accidentally ending up with Ueno's confession letter meant for Ishida and then getting verbally annihilated by her after trying to come onto her is wonderful.
I prefer good execution to "interesting" set-ups/situations. I read the one shot, and it was awfully written. Judging by the scans posted here, it looks like the actual manga is even worse. Fanfiction is full of all sorts of "interesting" situations. It's also usually awfully written. Just an analogy/example to make myself more clear.
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So why was this not in the movie?
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>>157603753
She tried to kill herself, show not tell.
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>>157603799
As a teenager yeah. This was when she was a kid.
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>>157603753
What's the point of it? We already know Shouko is suicidal from the scenes shown in the film. That stuff is entirely redundant/useless.
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>>157598370
If Shouya's mom is literally a hair dresser than why does she keep letting her roots show? Seems like it would be bad for buisness.
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>>157603753
Wasn't it? There were flashbacks. It was all pretty quick.
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>>157602959
It's meant to rhyme, so the latter.
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>>157602959
How is Bowie pronounced?
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>>157603842
It's implied from Yuzuru's dialogue with her mother. Are you mangatards really this autistic?
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>>157598411
>accomplishment
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>>157603753
It was.
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>>157603933
Bow(as in bowtie)-EE
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>>157603753
It was shown twice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqulazgReco Is this the best song on the OST or the best song on the OST?
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>>157604289
The soundtrack is competent, but no tracks in it are good by themselves. Too minimalist for me.
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>>157604393
I bet you didn't like Yeezus either
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I want to see MC bully her deaf pussy. I wanna see some gub gub snail man chex
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I wanna marry Ueno
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>>157604289
ah kensuke with his mastery
truly something else
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>>157604393
I like the who.
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>>157604403
Who?
>>157604591
The song fits but that intro was too Coppola for me. Felt kinda jarring compared to the rest of the film. (I don't like pop music.)
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>>157604662
I wouldn't classify the who as pop.
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>>157604417

The deaf pusi will bully him instead
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>>157604007

It's not just implied, that same image in >>157603753 flashes for a while when Yuzuru talks about her pictures.
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>>157604688
It literally is pop music though. Rock is pop.
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>>157603753
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>>157604773
rock can be pop
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Why is Ueno the best?

>Ueno will never be real
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Well, we may all get annoyed by Uenofags, but at least we can take solace in the fact that nobody is insane enough to be a Kawaifag.
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>>157604999
>being this naive
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Ueno loves femdom.

Kawai loves feminism.
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>>157604964
The world is full of cunts. Go out in public, close your eyes, and spin around. When you stop and open your eyes, you will see a woman like ueno.
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>>157604999

I wonder if it's the resemblance to Mio or if they really want a rotten person as their waifu.
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>>157605052
Yes you'll get a bitch but they're all fat and ugly
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>>157605052
2d > 3d
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>>157605052
There is something more to Ueno than just being a cunt. She just has "it", anon
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>>157605102
If they want somebody who looks like Mio, they always have Reina or that one broad from Kyoukai no Kanata
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>>157605109
Look, I'll admit, Ueno is fucking hot. But that doesn't change the fact that she's a fucking bitch.
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>>157605052
3D girls are actually genuinely ugly. Imperfections in their skin, weird eyes, ugly noses, nigger lips and the list goes on and on.

2D girls are perfect.
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>>157605146
Her being callous is charming. She'd make a great tiger mum.
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>>157598370
When is KyoAni ever going make a cake/milf show?
>>157599036
Evil cunt.
>>157601507
So tryhard it's cute.
>ywn have a cute deaf girl to hug
>>157602661
Instigating bitch.
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>>157605241
KyoAni should go full Garden of Words on our asses

I believe in them. Two cours of cake romance WHEN?
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>>157604999
I don't like the fact the author made everyone so unlikable to make Ishida look better in comparison. It feels really cheap. Ueno and Kawaii are both absolute irredeemable cunts, but what Ishida did back in elementary school is just as bad and trying to gloss over the fact he basically tortured Nishimiya mercilessly by hiding it behind "Hey other people are bad too!" is such a cop out. The point of the series is that Ishida did something he can't ever redeem himself for, but he's on the path to becoming a better person. Throwing some stinky shit like Ueno next to him so he doesn't smell as bad undermines the journey.
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Ueno's thighs are the miracle of the universe
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Shouko is such a poorly written character

Ishida made her life a living hell and we're to expect she'd forgive him just for returning a book?

Shouko is a mary sue moeblob
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>>157605272
I wish anon. I wish.
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>>157605296
Forget the manga. That version is deprecated. The film gets it right.
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>>157605366
She thinks it's her fault. She blames it all on herself and is never angry at people because she doesn't think it's them who are at fault.

Shouko is not poorly written, you just can't read.
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>>157603631
They're all Neutral Evil.
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>>157605366
No, Shouko is just a person who is high on the trait agreeableness. I know many people like her in real life. They tend to be walked over a lot just like her.
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>>157605146
She's not a bitch, she just acts like one :^)
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>>157605427
>Ishida's mom
>anything but Lawful Good
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>>157605449
Ain't a fucking difference. It's just like ironic shitposting.

Either way 7/10 would fuck and take responsibility if she actually opens her heart and clings to my clothes and stops me from leaving.
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>>157605477
No, because deep down she's just insecure.
True bitches are just narcissistic and devoid of empathy, which is not Ueno's case.
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>>157605366
I like to think the fact he made an effort to learn sign language had a lot to do with it. Just returning the book would've been meh, taking a few years to learn sign language so he can properly apologize if he ever gets the chance shows the depth of his regret over what he did
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>>157605500
>she's just insecure
>Ueno
>insecure
I don't think you know what this words means.
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>>157605541
How is she not insecure? Her general behavior shows she has poor self-esteem.
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>>157605541
She handles her insecurities very differently, but she is insecure.
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>>157605560
>she has poor self-esteem.
Are we talking about the same character? Ueno is very extroverted and accepting of herself.
>>157605581
How is she insecure?
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>>157600009
At least you can still feel anything that isn't pain.
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How come no boys at Shouko's school faked being nice to her to get laid?
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>>157605703
Yuzu scared them all off
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>>157598411

>Warcraft
>Greatest accomplishment
>WARCRAFT

Do you not consider Source Code to be his best work or did you just not see it?
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>>157605727
Am I gay for thinking Yuzu was cute before finding out she's a girl?
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What the fuck, hotpockets deleted the Yuzuru thread. Anyways reposting what I almost did.

>>157590588
Actually, she seems to have the cheapest of the lot, looks like she's holding a generic low end Nikon DSLR.
The Rollei 35 S is a vintage from 70s, sells for U$350 now. Pretty good model, still have active fanclubs.
Pentacks is Pentacks, probably slightly pricier than Yuzurus Nikon.
Honoka holds the most expensive kit, the X100T she's holding is at least U$1200 when it came out, and her show aired 2014, just a year after the camera.
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I am literally going to marry Shouko!
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>>157603482
How can you be this cruel?
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>>157606057
Don't be too hard on him. He was probably born with this disability or acquired it by being abused.
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>>157605799
Nah, you're just stupid. It was pretty obvious she's a girl from her first scene. I thought it was kinda weird how Ishida so easily accepted her joke about being Shouko's boyfriend. I thought he'd catch her drift and take it as a "piss off" but apparently Ishida is as retarded as the /a/utists.
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>>157605104
But Ueno is literally a 3D whore.
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>>157606139
She's literally 2D, and literally not a whore
You literal faggot
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>>157605800
bottom left is my waifu
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>>157606139
>using literally as figuratively
kys
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I can't stop thinking about Ueno
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>>157606301
Me neither
Maybe it's because she seems somewhat realistic instead of having a perfect waifu personality.
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>>157605927
You can do that, but only if you successfully show me how to sign that in JSL.
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>>157606236
Tell me more about her.
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>>157606311
Being a horrible person and a slut doesn't make a character realistic.
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>>157606380
>horrible person
Somewhat
>a slut
Citation needed, retard
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>>157606380
There's this feeling that you'd make her go down the right path.

She a sweet girl if she's with her man.
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>>157606380
Yes it does, you described 99% of 3D women.
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>ywn bike rides with Ueno as she hugs from from behind
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>>157600746
The movie would've been 10/10 masterpiece if only she actually trimmed it more by removing mashiba, sahara, or even kawaii also make the bridge scene where ishida shittalk everyone less contrived.
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I was not expecting to find something so cute going into this.
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Ueno is top tier.
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>>157606400
>Citation needed >>157604964 >>157606433
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>>157606497
You didn't provide citations, you just quoted posts that had nothing to do with what I asked.
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>>157606433
Isn't this a bit unsanitary?
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>>157599194
>manga Ueno is an ugly cunt
>KyoAni Ueno is a moeblob cunt
tl;dr she's a cunt
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>>157606497
What exactly is slutty about that you repressed puritan? Whopthefuckingdo she is working and giving fliers for her shop and she sat on Ishida's bike without asking.
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>>157606590
She's a charming but cynical person.
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>>157606636
You have to wonder what kind of horror story she has at home to be so misanthropic at 15.
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>>157600846
Manga kawai does realise she acted like a bitch. But she still keeps it to herself
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>>157606590
>manga Ueno
>ugly
You know what happens to people like you.
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>>157606719
Probably abuse.
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>>157606760
>filename
I thought his name was Mike "Inazuma" Pence
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>>157606763
Didn't the manga imply that? I forgot.
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>>157606600
At first I thought she became an enko and felt a bit schadenfreude but then I realised she was just handing fliers. She will go down the dark path eventually.
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>>157601096
>took care
Fuck off yanderefag
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>>157606810
>felt a bit schadenfreude
Deriving pleasure from the misfortune of others makes you a cunt too
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>>157605366
>Shouko is a mary sue moeblob
Yeah, pretty much this.
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>>157606719
It could also be that she is like that by nature. I know I was extremely suspicious of people since I was 6. I used to be very calculating, keeping count of who asked to play with my toys and whether they ever gave me some of their toys to play with. I was also very skeptical of my teachers and always wondered whether they had ulterior motives when they asked something from me, like going to olympiads and stuff (I was/am very good at math and science, grammar, that sort of thing). When I was 12 I told one of my teachers that the only reason she'd like me to go to the olympiad is because it would reflect well on her to have a pupil with good academic results. She dashed out of the classroom choking on tears.

Ueno is like a female version of me.
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>>157603464
Why does Ueno love Ishida?
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>this thread
Uenofags are already becoming tumblr-tier cancer
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>>157606810
You're just making assumptions without basis.
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>>157606875
explain further
I think tumblr would hate Ueno because she's a bullying bitch
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>>157606568
She's a slut, do you really think she cares about how clean her privates are?
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>>157606820
She did nothing wrong.

I'd rather prefer someone obsessed to me
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Animeonlyfag here, what is mashiba disabilities?
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>>157606820
The manga =/= the anime.
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>>157606866
Seatmates back at elementary.

Ishida is a lucky guy
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Superior girl
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Thank fuck i already discussed the Koe no Katachi manga on /a/ before the movie rips came out. This thread is shit
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>>157606866
He was a chad in elementary school.
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>>157602176
You mean an average female.
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>>157605417
>Never blames anyone, even if she is treaten badly :(
>always thinks everything is her fault
>never gets angry
>only sees the good in other people
>always trys her best!
>looks very kawaii <3
>is a stark contrast to all the other mean gurlz
>cares for everyone
If that isn't the defenition of an moeblob, I don't know what is anon
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>Leave out like half the manga

Why even make the film?
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>>157606980
There was a Yuzuru thread and now this Ueno shit. Sadly waifufaggotry is taking over the threads.
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Stop posting Ueno you fucking niggers.

I can't stop thinking about her now and I can't stop staring at screencaps of her.
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>>157607055
Go outside of /a/ if waifufaggotry makes you """cringe""".

There are several other websites that are moderated to your likes.
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>>157606980
The manga is a dog shit, poorly written melodrama that spoonfeeds you every detail with a shovel. The film was a Fellini story in animated form. Unapologetically realistic and cleverly understated.
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>>157607085

>Butcher the manga in film form
>le film is better
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>>157607085
This but unironically.
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>>157606980
The general rule of thumb is that any big studio production will bring out the worst companyfags and waifufags here (in this case, Ueno). Best to avoid any threads after the first few ones
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>>157607031
A moeblob isn't just a synonym for "a person that is nice to a fault and very insecure". It's an unrealistic, flat, character that only exists as a fetishistic exhibit. Shouko isn't a moeblob.
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>>157606795
It's actually Mike "Kuwabara" Pence.
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>>157607121
I wasn't being ironic. Koe no Katachi is a great film. Solid 8/10.
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>>157607031
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>>157607085
Honestly, this.
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>>157606568

I would lick the bike after Ueno's thighs and butt have been pressed against it.
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>>157607085
>Fellini story in animated form
It's a fucking chinese cartoon you pretentious autist
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>>157607188
Found the plebeian.
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>>157600746
>(I like the manga, but I'm also very glad the movie softened the histrionics
lol fuck of kvin, the movie was almost all melodrama whenever anyone had a word to say.
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Kawai kawaikunai!
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>>157607226
He's right.
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>>157607226
No it wasn't. The dialogues came off as very natural. Kawai was the only one being theatrical, but that's because she's a narcissistic drama queen who likes drawing everyone's attention to herself.
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Ueno's thighs
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>>157607280

I agree.
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The manga is shit
The movie is pretentious shit
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>>157607239
I don't get why people say Kawai never get hers, it's just not slapped in your face like every little crap in this manga. She's mocked/pitied by just about everyone, both behind her back and in her face, and she will never ever get why it happens.
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ideal couple
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>157607320
Naisu beito desu, but you're not going to get any (you)s from me.
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>>157607354

> tfw Ueno will never dress up as a kittycat for you
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If Ishida were short no one would have liked him.
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>>157607320
Naisu beito desu, but you're not going to get any (you)s from me
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>157607320
>157607424
Good samefag attempt. Congratulations.
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>>157607414
Now that you mention it. How tall is he? He looks like a CLAMP character in the sea of normal people.
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>>157602179
>>157602200
>>157602221
>>157602238
>>157602249
>>157602272
>>157602293
>>157602320
>>157602338
>>157602359
>>157602379
>>157602401
>>157602421
>>157602463
>>157602479
>>157602498
>>157602515
I would hate fuck Kawai and then tell her I didn't fuck her because I thought she was attractive and because I liked her — I fucked her because that's all she's good for and will ever be good for.

Fucking hate this cunt, but I bet her pussy is amazing.
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>>157606851
Abrasive people are cute.
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>>157607458
She'd probably report you for rape and have you arrested.
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>>157607031
>everyone look at me being retarded!
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>>157607320
I feel the same, i wish the movie wasn't so gimmicky
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>>157607414
>>157607454
Isn't he shorter than Sahara? Which would make him around 5'9-5'10
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>>157607493
Kawai is the sort of vulnerable person who would completely break if she let her guard down for the right person and they took advantage of her for it.
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>>157607454
Around 180cm tall I think. Or close to that.
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>>157607320
This. Waifufags are deluding themselves
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>>157607534
>Isn't he shorter than Sahara?
No. He's slouching.
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>>157607573
I don't think so.
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literally saved this shit film
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>>157607583
He is around a metre behind them in this image. Look at the legs: you can see Sahara's ankles, you can't see Ishida's.
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>>157607647
That would indicate that he's about the same height as Sahara, so 5'11
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>>157607583
>>157607647
Actually that seems to be an animation error. The perspective on that image doesn't make much sense, unless some of them are sitting inside some potholes.
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>>157607320
/thread
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>>157607354
Cute.

Ueno's such a sweet girl. She wouldn't even let that deaf slut in his hospital room.
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>>157601020
>>157601058
post more rare uenos
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>>157607320
The manga is a mediocre melodrama.
The anime is great drama.
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>>157607706
Post some yourself, retard
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>>157607706
>ywn bully Ueno
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>>157606980
Me too. I thought the manga was ok and so was the movie, but this thread appears to be mostly waifu circlejerking
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>tfw I always end up giggling in bed whenever I think of Ueno
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>>157607705
How can people hate Sho-chan so much that they call her a deaf slut?
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>>157607823
Stop reading my brain
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It's no use, I guarded myself against Ueno before watching it but I fell for her so naturally.
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>>157607188
I agree. I wish people would stop saying the manga was shit UNLIKE THE MOVIE. I mean, they're both pretty much the same unless you watch the movie without reading the manga
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>>157607811
>>157606980
>t. butthurt Shoukofag
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>>157607706
>>157607743
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>>157607915
If you think they're pretty much the same then you're an undiscriminating nincompoop. Just saying.
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Stop shitting the actual discussion thread Uenofags. There is already a thread for your waifufaggotry >>157606100
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>>157607920
Please don't assume I'm part of your delusional waifufaggotry. I'm already in a relationship with an actual woman, thank you very much
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>>157607923
I had a giggle
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>>157607974
This website isn't for you. We'll do what we want
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>>157601058
this scene basically means she wants to fuck him and it's her way of communicating that but he's too infatuated with Shouko and she figures this out. it is after this she hates Shouko for not being brave enough to truly open up to Shoya and she thinks it's because Shouko is too broken to help fix Shoya so she doesn't deserve him.
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This film was really mediocre. Not particularly impressive in any sense. Kind of disappointing when you see such extreme comments in the positive or negative. It just left me thinking "so that was it? what was the fuss about".

Entirely forgettable and totally unimportant.
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>>157607920
>people complain about waifufags
>you must be a rival waifufag xdd
Waifufags are the worst
>>
Is this one of those movies that gets better on the second viewing?
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>>157608132
No, pretty sure it's the opposite cause once you get used to the great visuals you're forced to focus on the huge flaws this movie has
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>>157608066
>we
It's probably 3 people at most
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>>157607997
The fuck are you doing here then?
>>>/plebbit/
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>>157608132
Yes, you get to pick up on the little details and subtleties you missed in the first view.
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>>157608067
You're not right, you're not even wrong.
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>>157608179
I agree. Reddit has some of the cringiest waifufags I've ever seen
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>>157608110
You said nothing of value.
>>157608132
Yes.
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The confession is the only scene where Shouko wears white socks

Why is she such a slut?
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>>157608211
stay there
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>>157608211
Leave faggot.
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>>157607832
cuz she is a borig retard, god bless Ueno for beating the shit out of her
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>>157608314
how is waifufagging a reddit-tier cancer when it existed long before reddit was a thing
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>>157608224
Are you mad that I don't think this film is particularly impressive? It's just really underwhelming. Not particularly special in any sense. The kind of thing that just gets forgotten about far below true classics in execution that the anime community will keep coming back too forever by the likes of Oshii, Kon, Miyazaki, Takahata and so on. Just another insignificant film in a sea of anime films. The extreme reactions you see here positive or negative are really entirely unwarranted. Anyone claiming it's the best or worst anything is either baiting, intentionally hyperbolic, new to anime or clouded by supporters/haters biases.
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>>157608366
You realize you're just making empty posts, right?
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>shoukofags and uenofags arguing amongst themselves
meanwhile patrician men of good taste enjoy best girl (pic related) in silence and comfort
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>>157608366
people just assume everyone wants to circlejerk as much as they themselves do. if you don't like something then the circlejerkers honestly believe something must be wrong with you. I personally liked the manga more than the movie but if i actualy say that the circlejerkers will just dismiss my opinion as shit taste instead of personal preference
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>>157608366
>he doesn't know the anime community already keeps coming back to the likes of Yamada
There's a reason why only Yamada gets the biggest Kyoani projects now.
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>>157608438
I realise that you don't like my opinion of the film so are trying to act as if it's invalid.
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>>157608366
You said nothing of value.
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>>157608366
It's a huge success, in fact the 3rd highest grossing late night anime film of all time. You can muh sales me all you want but the opinion of it being mediocre is yours alone while it's positive opinion is backed by its 2.3billion yen gross.
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>>157608475
See what I mean about this? This guy is seriously trying to put a small time insignificant director from a small time insignificant studio like Yamada on the same level as Oshii, Kon, Miyazaki or Takahata.
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>>157608366
I'm only pointing out you're not actually saying anything. Your post are devoid of contents.
"I didn't like it, it's bad" in so many words.

I happen to be a huge Oshii and Satoshi Kon fan and I thought this film was great. But that's not saying anything either. Why is it good? Why is it bad? If you can't put up, shut up. No one cares how you liked the film.
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>>157608466
>shit taste instead of personal preference
The two are not mutually exclusive you idiot. IN fact: taste == personal preference. Your personal preference happens to be shit.
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>>157608519
>opinions that are contrary to mine are of no value
Ok enjoy your circlejerk hugbox.

>>157608524
The only one "muh salesin" here is you. I've never mentioned them.
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Jesus christ this thread
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>>157608527
>the director of one of the single most influential anime this decade
>insignificant
Keep on putting your head in the sand, buddy.
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>>157608532
I am very much saying something. That my opinion of the film is that it's mediocre and insignificant. There is no need to elaborate that to express a valid opinion.
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>>157608481
It is a fact that your opinion is invalid, because you have done nothing to validate it. It's unsubstantiated.
>>
>Wow, we sure got big bellied after our trip to Brazil
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>>157608575
>actually believes this
Keep on proving my point.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl3I9koOeeg
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>>157608527
Yamada is not on par with Oshii, Kon or Takahata. Not yet. Those guys have been doing animation for decades. She only started a little over 10 years ago. Put things in perspective and stop whining like an idiot.
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>>157608597
You don't understand how opinions work. Don't reply to me anymore I don't have time to waste on people with this low a level of understanding.
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>>157608619
What, believing the truth? The horror.
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>>157608642
>Yamada is not on par with Oshii, Kon or Takahata.
Then we are in agreement. This film and her work is insignificant.
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>>157608593
>>157608645
>expresses opinion
>why do you have this opinion, anon
>GOD I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU LEAVE ME ALONE IT'S MY OPINION REEEE
what a fucking pussy lmao
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>>157608593
Your opinion is mediocre and insignificant. You haven't backed it up with anything. Put up, or shut up already.
Until you do some work, my opinion is infinitely more valuable than your opinion.

>I like it
>I don't like it
This sort of shit needs to stay on youtube and reddit.
>>
>Falling for such obvious bait
Just stop replying to him you retards.
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>>157601178
Not really. Falling on other people, cars, bushes, etc. can save you even if you go from the right height. Also, most people are stupid like Shouko and go from some lower floor, then it's pretty common to just end up a cripple, especially if you are too weak mentally to fall head down.
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>>157608642
Yamada has made more masterpieces than any of those directors though
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>>157608645
I understand perfectly. Your opinion is worthless. You're a massive, inarticulate pleb.
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>>157608711
No, we actually aren't in any sort of agreement.
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>>157608642
She's definitely showing remarkable growth with her film career and it only began 6 years ago.
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don't like random 50 year old pedro fucking some early 20s and having a baby

and how he just fucking woke up after a fall like that and got out the hospital 100% fine the fuck was that
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>>157608738
it's not bait anymore. genuinely these sort of people exist. most of these sort of people are young and have been through the liberal school system that preaches such bullshit as "no opinion is wrong"
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>>157608711
You're an idiot who's incapable of nuanced, discriminating thought.
>X is not yet on par with Y therefore they are insignificant
Koe no Katachi is certainly better than any of Miyazaki's recent films, for example. Much, much better, in fact. You know what they say, idiots argue about people, patricians argue about the works themselves. You know nothing beyond prestige. You don't understand filmmaking in any way. Keep clinging to fampus names like a pleb.
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>>157608717
>>157608724
>>157608753
>opinions I disagree with are invalid
Sure is full of fanboys in this thread who are mad that somebody doesn't think that Yamadas film is the greatest thing ever made. Not even one of the best of it's year.
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>>157608860
Your opinion is not invalid because I disagree with it, it is invalid because you have backed it up with nothing. GTFO already moron.
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>>157608832
>Koe no Katachi is certainly better than any of Miyazaki's recent films, for example.
He actually believes this. KyoAni fanboys deluded as fuck as usual. Any of Miyazakis films has more artistic merit in 5 minutes than the entirety of Yamadas work.
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In my opinion, this is the single best piece of art to ever come out of Japan, period.
I'm talking right up there with 我輩は猫である
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>>157608817
No it's obvious bait, just look at his last few replies, he isn't even trying anymore. But you people are so stupid you'll still fall for it.
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>>157608873
So yeah it's invalid because you disagree with it? I doubt you are attacking people stating the enjoyed the film and thought it was great without explaining why.
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>>157608887
I am not a KyoAni fan at all actually. I actually actively dislike the majority of the anime they've made. You seem to be an incorrigible, uncritical Ghibli fanboy who eats up awful garbage like Ponyo without a second thought though.
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>>157608811
He was in coma for two weeks.
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>>157608817
Opinions on subjective preferences literally cannot be wrong. If you hold an opinion contrary to objective facts those can be wrong. The amount of justifications you give for those is completely irrelevant to their validity as opinions.
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>>157608894
No, it's just an idiot. Never ascribe to cunning what can be explained by incompetence. Trolls are pretty rare. Most "bait" is just retards being true to their nature.
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>>157608945
I would have liked you better if you called an actual garbage film like Porco Rosso garbage.
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>>157602675
>I think even Mashiba realizes it, but he ends up pitying her for it more than anything rather than attacking her for it because he realizes that she truly is delusional.
Does he at least leave her?
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>>157608968
Opinions do not have any sort of validity by default you coddled twit. Fucking safe space generation and
>muh opinion
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>>157608989
>people who disagree with my opinion must be idiots
This amount of delusion.
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>>157609031
Of course they do. You are conflating validity with correctness or importance which are not the same thing. I'm likely older than yourself.
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>>157609031
You're right. The fastest way to lose any validity you had is to spout /pol/ memes.
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>>157609036
The way you have expressed your opinion is so fucking bad that people are mistaking you as a troll, if you can't see what's wrong with that then maybe you should take some communication lessons from the deaf girl.
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>>157608890
I really liked this scene. Where is that in real life? Some kind of partially open air museum?
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>>157609087
>if you express and opinion different to my own it's a badly expressed opinion
Ok keep doing whatever you can to try to invalidate anything that isn't in agreement with yourself.
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>>157609056
I'm not conflating anything: your opinion is not well-founded. You know nothing about filmmaking. You have given literally no reasoning for holding that opinion. So it is invalid.
You're likely some drooling retarded teenager.
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>>157609121
The way you have expressed your opinion, the way, not the opinion itself. There are plenty of other people who don't like the film, you are not a special snowflake.
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>>157609090
It's one of those modern art museum.
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>>157609156
You are indeed conflating both corrrctness and importance with validity and you've just proved it with that post.
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>>157609074
>implying you have to be a polack to hate >muh opinion is just as valid any other morons
Go back wherever you came from and never come back.
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>>157609183
No one here said validity = correctness you imbecile.
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>>157606472
Did she get bullied or is she seriously retarded enough to run away without her shoes? Also, why is she so dirty?
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>>157609189
Opinions are just as valid as anybody else's. You are conflating validity with importance. Saying opinions are valid is not the same as saying all opinions are equal. You are obviously going to give more weight the a climate researchers evidence on global warming being an expert in the field than a bible thumper denier who never studied science past high school but both of their opinions are valid still.
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>>157609237
>you are conflating this with that
Go grab a dictionary you moron. It's obvious you have absolutely no fucking idea what "valid" even means.
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>>157609189
I was referring to your scapegoating
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>>157609206
That's very much what your post implies. Opinions can only be invalid when provably incorrect as such opinions on subjective preferences can never be invalid.
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>>157607997
Fuck off.
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>>157609237
>Opinions are just as valid as anybody else's
no
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>>157609249
It's quite obvious you have no idea by the fact you keep bringing up irrelevancies to validity.
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>>157609271
No, that is not what anyone implied either. You obviously do not know what valid means. Valid = sound, well-founded, reasoned, justified, backed-up. Merely stating an opinion does not validate it.
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>>157609289
Valid doesn't mean worthy of consideration or important. If you have two people expressing different opinions but one is an expert you are likely to side with the expert. That doesn't make the nonnexpert opinion any less valid.
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>>157609331
>Valid doesn't mean worthy of consideration or important.
who said that's what valid means?
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>>157609320
The lengths people will go to try dismiss any opinion that is different than theirs is really amusing. You must be a massive fanboy.
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>>157609331
See
>>157609320
you're proving again and again just how clueless you are.
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>>157609367
Not an argument.
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>>157609350
You.
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>>157609379
>if you disagree with me you are clueless even though I can't give any valid reason why
Ok kid.
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>arguing over the validity of opinions on an anonymous imageboard on the internet
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>>157609367
>I don't even know the meaning of the words I'm using
>for pointing that out you must be a fanboy
thank you for proving once again that
>muh opiniuns
fags are cancer.
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>>157609428
Who is this qt
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>>157609446
Who said that? You don't understand what validity means in the context of opinions that much is obvious.
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>>157609418
I literally gave you a definition by enumeration of synonyms for valid, dumbass. Like I said, go grab a dictionary: you're an imbecile. (You might want to look up imbecile as well.)
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>>157609456
My wife Shouko
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>>157609476
You're definition was incorrect. Sorry you don't know the definition. I guess you really are dumb.
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>>157609465
Valid means what the common usage of the term dictates it means, not what your erroneous knowledge of the word "dictates" it means.
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>>157609521
The only knowledge that is erroneous here is yours pal.
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>>157608739
cont
Check suicide wiki if you want some real foolproof methods. Though old shotgun to the brain is still the undisputed winner
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>>157609169
Yup, I was just wondering if it was based on a specific place, since I know sometimes Kyoani does that. It's pretty cool.
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>>157608811
The meeting on the bridge was enormously contrived, either you like the movie enough to overlook it or it's too big an issue for you.
Neither the lovers nor the haters think the script isn't flawed.
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>>157609516
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/valid
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/valid
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/valid
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/valid
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>>157598411
Moon was alright despite being a blatant 2001 rip-off.
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>>157609074
She just can't resist the chromatic aberration and other cheap after effects, can she? The first few times it was novel, but now it's just tiresome.
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>>157609575
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>157608440
Got fooled twice

Thought she was a girl, oh hey a trap
Thought she was a trap, oh hey a girl all along
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>>157609610
>I am not retarded, I was only trolling, I swear
You just got schooled. Get, the fuck, out.
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I cant stop thinking about Ueno
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>>157609643
Your links prove me correct. I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Are you this deluded or maybe ESL?
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>>157609598
I think they make her films more gentle and less stimulating. You aren't constantly bombarded with information from the surroundings since Yamada tends to lead your eyes to what's important.
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>>157606796
The manga had her hanging with a few shady looking guys.
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>157609664
Everyone can tell that at this point you're trying to retroactively cover your ass by pretending you were trolling all along. Not even going to give you a (you).
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>>157609761
You really don't understand do you. I guess it was a waste of time. Some delusional fanboys will go to any lengths.
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>>157609598
I thought they added a lot. If anything, I certainly didn't feel they were cheap.
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>157609792
You got proven so wrong your brain short-circuited I see. Sorry faggot, but you're not a troll, you're just a clueless retard.
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>>157609840
This is getting boring now. You've posted some links that didn't support your opinion but in fact supported mine and declared yourself the winner. That's what is called delusion and that's what you seem to be experiencing.
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What did Based Bueno fucking Mean by this?
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WHAT IF WE TALKED ABOUT HOW PERFECT YUZU IS
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>>157609792
>>157609610
>>157609664
Nigger, what the hell are you on about?

>>157609320
>Valid = sound, well-founded, reasoned, justified, backed-up.
>>157609575
>val·id (văl′ĭd)
adj.
1. Well grounded; just:
>2 reasonable and generally accepted
>a : well-grounded or justifiable : being at once relevant and meaningful
>sound; just; well-founded:
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My invalid opinion is that nobody cares, you fucking retards.
Get a room.
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>>157609872
did you hit your head or something? see >>157609920
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Just finished, I thought it was average but honestly I don't think they could've done better given that they had to do 60-70 manga chapters in 2 hours.

I think I would've felt the impact more of some moments if I hadn't read the manga before.

What did animeonlys think of this movie?
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>>157609872
You're sad.
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>>157609964
I've read the manga before and it's my favorite anime now.
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>>157609920
Which part of that is supposed to be relevant here? In expressing an opinion on a subjective preference the only truth and fact involved is that which you create in your head. The only requirement for a valid opinion on something that cannot be factually proved or disproved is expression of that opinion.
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>>157606796
I thought it was implied after she beat up shouko, was that she only knew to hit people like (her)/ her mom
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>>157609872
>That's what is called delusion and that's what you seem to be experiencing.
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>>157609964
I dropped the manga 3/4 in because I didn't like the forced drama, I felt the movie was better even if some characters were less developed.
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>>157609992
I'm planning on recommending this to my normie female friend, do you think she should start with the manga first or the movie?
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>>157608366
https://youtu.be/-OB2tdu1AZc
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>>157610041
kill yourself
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>>157609872
>posted some links that didn't support your opinion but in fact supported mine
I honestly can't tell if you're pretending or are really this stupid
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>>157605617
She's insecure about the fact that Shouya's affections lie with Shoko and not her
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>>157609964
I thought the first half of the manga was great, but the second half was very bad and the ending absolutely garbage. The movie was alright
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>>157610015
Seriously though. Expressing an opinion on something like a film doesn't require reason to be valid. It's like claiming the opinion "I prefer oranges over lemons" is invalid because the person isn't explaining that the specific concentration of citric acid in the two fruits results in a more pleasant taste sensation from oranges.
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>>157610041
Definitely watch the movie first. Some of the key scenes are most likely better when you have no idea they are coming, like the X's falling off and Shouko trying to kill herself.
Manga is if you want to get more development out of the side characters but I'd argue the movie is a much better experience overall.
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>>157604662
The intro is Scorsese not Coppola
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>>157609663
She would just be the perfect wife. Fiercely loyal and protective and dedicating herself to you completely.
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>>157609993
Valid =/= correct. Justifying something =/= proving it. Keep proving that you're an inarticulate dumbass with shit taste though.
>The only requirement for a valid opinion on something that cannot be factually proved or disproved is expression of that opinion.
Wrong.
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>>157610041
No way a normie would read that manga and enjoy it, she probably wouldn't even enjoy the movie but it has a higher chance.
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>>157610056
>samefagging this much
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Stupid sexy Ueno
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>>157607673
Doesn't sahara wear those high heels looking shoes
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>>157610125
It's perfectly correct. Are you going to tell me that saying I like prefer chips to chocolate is an invalid opinion because I haven't explained or justified it?
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>>157610041
If you didn't fuck her hard you're basically a cuckold.
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>>157610163
Goddammit i want to Do her so much with her Cat ears Equppied
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>>157609964
I think the core theme is presented beautifully. Art and sound direction is top notch. But yeah some part of the script could've been better like the bridge scene where ishida mouthing off everyone or the reunion scene. Plenty of things happens just because. Should've focus more on the main duo relationship and trims unnecessary character like mashiba.
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>>157610125
>valid=/=correct
Shirou pls go and stay go
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>>157610207
>Plenty of things happens just because
Literally nothing happens just because
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Did Ueno wore a buttplug? How do you suppose to put that tail?
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>>157610172
What part of "preferences are not valid by default" is so hard to understand. Besides, you didn't merely state a preference. You also called the film "mediocre", "unimpressive" etc.
These are not preferences. (Stop trying to pretend you're someone else now by the way.)
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>>157610238
That's the remnant of her part time yesternight.
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>>157610272
opinions* are not valid by default
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>>157610272
Just like calling coffee disgusting isn't a preference.
OK then. Whatever lets you sleep at night, buddy.
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>>157610288
Ueno is pure and for Ishida only
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>>157610207
What was the core theme tho?
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>>157610083
Yes it does. "Film A is better than film B" is not at all analogous to "I prefer X to Y food".
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>>157600912
We briefly see her from the back in this scene.
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>>157610319
Butt plug tail. Enjou kousai girl.
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>>157610344
see
>>157610305
and go sit in a corner.
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>>157610272
Those are subjective opinions. They can't be proven correct or incorrect. They don't become valid by virtue of justification. They just are valid.

>>157610344
It's exactly the same. Expression of subjective preferences.
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>>157610305
>muh apples vs oranges
Is a spoiled banana worse or better than a fresh banana? What about an overcooked porridge? Is it worse or better than a porridge that's cooked just right? Burned, chewy stake with charcoal on top?

You're the most undiscriminating retard imaginable.
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>>157610330
Forgiveness.
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>>157610330
regret
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>>157610330
Cripples need to be bullied till suicide
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>>157610330
Communication
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>>157610446
Validity =/= correctness.
>They just are valid.
No statement is "just valid". It is valid if it satisfies the criteria for being valid.
>>157610446
That's because you're an uncritical moron. They're not subjective preferences. You can shoot a film badly.
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>>157610448
It all depends on what you like. If someone says they like one better than the other that cannot be invalid. You cannot provide any reason that would negate that.
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>>157607997
>I'm already in a relationshit with an actual 3d pig disgusting
My condolences, good luck on your upcoming suicide.
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>>157610503
>It all depends on what you like.
No, it does not. It depends on objective aesthetic standards. Just because some people like shit doesn't mean what they like isn't shit.
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>>157610503
>If someone says they like one better than the other that cannot be invalid.
As long as it is unsubstantiated, it is invalid.
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>>157610495
The criteria for being valid is satisfied by expression in the context of subjective preferences. You cannot say that someone's opinion that they like X better than Y is invalid ever because there is no way you can demonstrate that.
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>>157610448
>>157610448
Fuck off man, my friend likes charred food. Nothing about what makes good food is set in stone. It's all a preference.
In case you are still not getting it: if you are speaking/writing about anything that can't be proven one way or the other (e.g. which movie is better, which food tastes better, is your mother still fuckable after being devastated by my monstrous cock) then 'in my opinion' can be and often is omitted, because it's fucking obvious to everyone with at least double digit IQ that it's just your opinion.
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>>157610576
So you are actually defending that an opinion that oranges are better than lemons is invalid if a person doesn't explain exactly what it is that is objectively true about those fruits which leads them to prefer one over the other? Okay, I hope you understand how retarded you are.
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>>157610536
>objective aesthetic standards
Post more.
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>>157610330
deaf girls are cute
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>>157610536
This has nothing to do with a subjective opinion being invalid or valid. Subjective opinions cannot be made invalid by objective observations.
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>Entire thread is completely off topic because you fags can't ignore the muh opinion troll
So fucking stupid.
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What happened to the thread
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>>157610591
>pic related is not bad, it's just a different style
You're an undiscriminating pleb. Nothing else need be said on tha matter.
> someone's opinion that they like X better than Y is invalid
If it is unsubstantiated yes, it is not valid. Merely stating an opinion does not validate it.
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>>157610675
'Objective aesthetic standards' fag ruined it.
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I hate this thread because I know I'm so much smarter than all of you but I showed up too late to put you in your place. Fuck armchair philosophers, so obnoxious
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>>157610660
Any opinion is invalid as long as it has not been validated. Opinions are not valid by default.
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>>157610611
I guess they would also argue that you expressing the opinion that a film was scary was also invalid if you didn't justify why it sacred you objectively.
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>>157610330
Ishida's redemption.
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Let him just re-define valid as 'has some reasoning given' and end this farce.
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>>157610731
You are now essentially arguing that all subjective opinions are invalid opinions. Quite moronic.
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>>157610675
went into shit
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>>157610628
>an opinion that oranges are better than lemons is invalid
If the holder of that opinion does no justify it. Better in what sense. Saying something is better than something else is not the same as saying one likes something more than something else.
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>>157610767
All unsubstantiated opinions are invalid. Subjectivity is not a free mark of validity. Sorry to brake it to you.
>>157610716
>no such thing as off model drawings exist
>bad animators don't exist, they're just drawing in a different syle
This is how retarded you are. See
>>157610698
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>>157610800
That's just false. That opinion cannot be invalid. You cannot use logic or reason to attack it and you cannot use objective facts to prove it wrong. An opinion like "oranges are more citrus than lemons" can be proven wrong and thus invalidated an opinion like "oranges taste more citrus than lemons to me" cannot be proven wrong or subjected to logical scrutiny or required to provide sound reasoning.
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>>157610852
Your understanding of validity is incorrect. Sorry to break it to you. You are conflating the standards of objective claims with subjective claims.
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>>157610890
Valid =/= correct you goddamn cretin. Validity =/= truth-value. Provability has nothing to do with it.
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>>157610852
>>off model
It's objective, can be easily defined and proven. Bad example.
>>bad animators don't exist, they're just drawing in a different syle
If you define 'bad' as being unable to satisfy your personal preferences then they obviously exist.
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>>157609018
He does his own thing. I'm pretty sure they don't end up together.
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>>157610929
My understanding of validity is the common sensical one. It's the same meaning you'll find in every contemporary dictionary. I'm not conflating anything.
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>>157610939
Try reading the post properly. I didn't say validity was equivalent to correctness. I stated that it is a way in which an opinion based on an objective claim can be proven invalid.
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>>157610992
You aren't considering the definition in the context properly then.
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>>157610984
>If you define 'bad' as being unable to satisfy your personal preferences
That's not how you define "bad". You keep trying to weasel yourself back to
>muh preferences
>muh it's all subjective
No it ain't, 'tard. Fuck off.
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>>157610939
So I can say A is bad because adfdafads? Since it doesn't have to be logically provable.
Pretty stupid.
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>>157611032
How you define it then. Give me a definition and then prove logically that pic you linked is bad according to the definition.
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>>157610997
>I stated that it is a way in which an opinion based on an objective claim can be proven invalid.
Again. Valid =/= correct. A statement can be valid (substantiated), but factually untrue (some of the reasoning could be erroneous). An unsubstantiated opinion is invalid. The only thing you need to do to "prove" that an opinion is invalid is point out that it hasn't been backed-up with anything.
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>>157611145
You really don't understand the definition of validity an incorrect opinion is not valid merely by the virtue of having reasoning behind it if the premise he reasoning behind that is based on is invalid it doesn't matter if the logic is consistent any conclusion drawn will also be invalid.
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>>157611055
>A is bad because asdfasdf
This is plain gibberish. You can't validate a statement with gibberish.
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>>157611145
>A statement can be valid (substantiated)
see
>>157611055
A rather useless descriptor going by your definition.
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>>157611275
>>157611275
>>157611275
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>>157611197
>an incorrect opinion is not valid merely by the virtue of having reasoning behind it if the premise he reasoning behind that is based on is invalid it doesn't matter if the logic is consistent any conclusion drawn will also be invalid.
Valid == sound =/= correct == true. All correct statements are valid, but the reverse is not true.
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>>157611292
>another ueno circlejerk
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>>157611208
Exchange it for 'you suck cocks' then. What are the guidelines for providing a validation then?
I strongly suspect it's gonna be something like 'I can accept it as a correct validation'.
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>>157611292
I hate you general faggots so much
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>>157609896
Proto Dybala mask
She already knew dabbing was old and busted since 2013
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>>157611316
Same thing: it's not valid because "you suck cocks" is not valid. You can't justify something with baseless statements.
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>>157610049
Kermode has questionable taste and is a casual anime fan at best.
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>>157611309
That's false. You plainly don't understand the definition and are just making up your own special definition because you cannot admit to being incorrect.
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>>157611418
Still avoiding the questions. We all know by this point that your 'valid' is something completely subjective. You can't define it. You can't prove it. You just 'know' it.
Fuck me I was right.
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>>157611439
"My" definition just so happens to be the definition you find in every dictionary. You seem to have the mistaken idea that valid is equivalent to correct, hilariously, after you whined that valid and correct are not the same thing.
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This was a better film than The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Wolf Children and Your Name and enough to put Yamada as the 2nd best active director behind Yuasa.
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>>157611498
I defined it already, and another guy linked to several online dictionaries who happen to agree with "my" definition.
>subjective
Yeah right.
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>>157611498
We all know at this point that you don't know what valid even means.
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>>157611564
Why did you pick those three specifically? Also
>Tokikake was 11 years ago
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>>157611564
I need to see more Yuasa films before I pick a #1.
Lu Over the Wall is Yuasa/Yoshida though, muh.
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>>157611582
Post link to your post where you did.
>dictionaries
They all have meaningless definitions in the context of opinions.
>based on truth
What is the 'truth' when talking about preferences?
>having premises and conclusion so related that whenever the former are true the latter must also be true, esp (formally valid) when the inference is justified by the form of the premises and conclusion alone
What is the premise that lets you draw the conclusion X anime is shit?
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>>157611431
Respond to the criticism, not the critic, faggot. Kermode has seen and reviewed more films than the sum total of every poster on /a/.
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>>157611897
I've been listening to Kermode and Simon Mayo for longer than you've been watching cartoons, I know the guy's tastes in and out.
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>>157611934
I started in 2006, so maybe you have. Makes no difference either way, he's a more qualified and knowledgeable critic than anyone who posts here and that's a fact.
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>>157611535
No I don't have that idea and I haven't expressed that sentiment. Sorry that your faculties of reasoning and logic are too poor to understand that.
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>>157612020
You just said the criticism is what matters not the critic and now you are making an appeal to authority based on his stature as a critic. That's amusing.
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>>157612020
>webcelebs
>having other people tell you what is 'god' and what you should like
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>>157612212
That guy is pretty much the UKs roger ebert not a webceleb. Not that I am defending the line of reasoning. He also thought Your Name was brilliant. Any anime film that isn't completely schlock he seems broadly positive and uncritical about in my experience.
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>>157612283
I watched the movie so you won't bait me.
I asked about the manga.
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>>157612313
Both KnK and Your Name are normiebait.
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>>157612194
You don't seem to be in the mood to talk about his actual criticism so I obliged. And now you're getting cute with me?
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>>157612212
Kermode isn't just some wanker with a webcam. He's a professional critic who hosts the most popular movie podcast on the internet and writes for a number of broadsheets.
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