/a/ - Scanlation thread

https://exhentai.org/g/1035879/d60532ea36/
I'm working on this out of salt.

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currently cleaning up some twitter omakes for Bijin Onna Joushi Takizawa-san but i need some advice on fonts

The author uses these really big bubbly style hand drawn letters and I was wondering what font I should try using for them.

these are the closest free fonts I could find that might fit that don't look completely terrible

http://www.fontspace.com/kimberly-geswein/janda-manatee
http://www.fontspace.com/xerographer-fonts/yumernub

Is there a better option out there?

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/210674
here is a comparison for one of the omakes I cleaned just to show you what I'm working with

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>>157590957

>>157590992
thanks for this image, definitely saving for later use.

I don't know if bubblegums or agent orange will look good though

>>157591244
If you look through the archives, between February 6th and April 1st (don't ask why I have exact dates), someone shared a 2000 font zip in one of the scanlation threads. They organized it too, so you should be able to find a bubbly font easily.

>>157592318
any search terms that pop out as being unique to that post that might help me find it?

>>157592378
2000 fonts

>>157592467
>2000 fonts
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/157487636/#157521433

all i get is this one which doesn't seem to be the right thread

>>157592528
use desuarchive
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/2000%20fonts/

>>157592378
No, I'm sorry. That's all I remember.
There's a scanlation thread like every weekend, so that's only 8 threads to ctrl+f "2000" for

>>157592585
oh shit thanks.

>>157592603

It's ok anon I'm just an idiot and used the wrong archive I guess

>>157590992
>no fight to the finish
Nice trash.

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which of these looks better?

>>157593284
Handwrite it or take a more round and bold and sketchy font.

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>>157593575
maybe one of these?

>>157590525
What does that even mean

Kind of off topic but no idea where to post this:

What H-magazine has the least censorship?

Looking for random chapters to translate, but the magazine censorship is all so bad.

How do I go around being an typesetter?

>>157595489
You don't, it's boring as fuck.

>>157595489
typsetting takes like 30 seconds per page and anyone can do it

edit or translate or fuck off

>>157595533
Eh, I actually like doing it sometimes.
>Edit.
This too.

>>157595453
>find character hot but her best doujins weren't translated
>get salty and decide to do it yourself

>>157595583
Typesetting only is boring, and only other scanlators would appreciate proper typesetting, with normal readers non-cancer fonts/avoiding any kind of commentary are enough.

>>157593284
>>157593988
Maybe you could do as >>157593575 said, but make the text white and put an black stroke?
It would be easier than searching for a font that is specifically this way.

>>157596103
I'll give it a try but my handwriting is garbage so it will probably look like shit

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>>157590351
Coming soon

>>157596467
You might want to expand the stroke a little so that it stands out against the art more clearly.

>>157596507
Good catch, I meant to do that and totally forgot

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>>157596467
Actually, while I'm here, does anyone know the english translation for ゆふ in the middle there?

>>157596752
Maybe some frankenstein sfx combination of yura+fu?
Given how she's stuck in place, a mixture of light shaking/exhaling makes sense to my dumb ass, at least.

>>157590992
Old and busted. Check out the Google collection, there are actually some excellent fonts in there.

>>157595545
>30 seconds

Fuck off, you clearly have never done any.

>>157590351
Working on TL for a dead manga for an undead scangroup. This would all make more sense if we did zombie series, but alas.

>>157597939
It is a mystery

>>157596752
>>157593284

Thanks to you both, you're doing gods work anon

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>>157599822
I live to serve

>>157596206
Here are a few if you're still looking:

http://www.dafont.com/candy-shop.font
http://www.dafont.com/rough-comic-outlines.font
http://www.dafont.com/k26swashbuckle.font

>>157600057
Oh I like these, saved

>>157599342
You would hope so, but he probably has. That sort of thought keeps me up at night. Every night.

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How do you make this kind of line pattern?

Since we're talking about fonts, any good shoujo-esque fonts? I tend to default to using Manga Temple but I don't like looking at it and want to see if there's anything different.

>>157595488
Why not just translate something from a tank?

>>157605594
Have a layer with that dotted pattern and make a mask of the text-border?

>>157605594
Use a small sample of the screen tone in the top right to make a pattern and then you can just apply it to your text as a pattern overlay in the effects. Much easier than >>157606430

>>157606000
catholic school girls?

>>157606514
I've seen several guides explaining how to make patterns, but I don't know how I always fuck them up.

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>>157606597
Need something a bit more blocky, the font in question is the one in the upper right.

>>157606868
how about Felt? Or Yikes?

>>157606628
https://web.archive.org/web/20150819061527/http://www.redhawkscans.com/showthread.php?3308-Typesetting-introduction

Red Hawk used to have a nice beginner's guide to typesetting. In the advanced section there's info on creating and using patterns.

>>157600057
that candy shop one looks perfect
I'll try it out

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>>157590351
The adventures of a shota ghoul and a tsundere (male).

>>157606868
Write like Jesse? CC Jim Lee for something slightly more curvy but not quite. Alternatively, MyWriting in all caps. Maybe Dupree or Daniel Black, or if you want something blobby Cookie or Soft Marshmallow.

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so I tried out candy shop for the font, how does this look?

>>157612124
It's decent enough.

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I'm still strugling with this shit. I used the same font but it doesn't look the same as that other anon did.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

>>157615223
Have you tried caps and lowercase?

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>>157615416
Just tried it, but it still looks different. Left is the one I did and right is from that anon.

>>157615684
Looks to me like you're rotating the text, and he's skewing it.

>>157615803
probably this. the font looks like it was condensed so that means he was likely using a skew

>>157615803
>>157615845
Thanks, guys. It's still not the same as what he did, but now it looks less shit.

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How does this look so far?

>>157617842
Isn't the leading too tight?

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>>157617967
>>157617967
I was thinking of rotating it but It didn't look right to rotate the chapter title

I could expand the original image more too I guess

>>157618152
>realiity
One i too many there.

>>157618312
LOL I thought I fixed that shit. thanks for spotting it

>>157618152
I don't think you really understood what I meant with leading.

>>157618571
you mean the first bubble?

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>>157618644

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>>157618820
oh. Wow I'm retarded for not even noticing that. is this any better?

>>157619126
Yes, that looks better.

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>>157590351
Tried pastels for skin tones.
Kinda like it.

>>157596467
>>157596752
What is this? Looks like a reddit manga.

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>>157620473
What in blue fuck is that supposed to mean?

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>>157620715
>falling for obvious bait

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>>157621398

>>157621447
don't feed the fish please.

>thread at page 10 with only 77 posts

/a/ is fucking dead.

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Just got done with chapter 20 of Shiori Experience.
There's no Jimi Hendrix for the next three chapters.

>>157623835
We had a thread during the weekend for days. I'm surprised someone bothered to make another one.

>>157623835
It'd be a lot more lively if MORE PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED TO HELP TYPESET SHIT

>>157623835
That's what you get for slowly turning it into a daily thread and general.

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>>157624114
I'm doing that right now

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>>157624353
>gimp

>>157624501
I'm too lazy to pirate photoshit

>>157624114
Typesetting is easy to learn though, it's redrawing and translating that's fuckin shit.

>>157625605
Actually, I take that back, I learned to redraw in like 2 days. Better hope you have a tablet, fagit.

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I will continue to keep this thread on life support

please proof my page

>>157625624
>learning the entirety of redrawing in like two days
Yeah, sure.

>>157625898
Enough to make pages look fine.

>>157625683
>sempai

I'm already mad. Who even writes it like that anymore?

And Wild Words doesn't look bad, but it clashes so much with the original work considering it's all handwritten. Well, it also clashes with the overall style of the manga.

>>157625624
Pen tool works too. It just takes a bit longer.

>>157590351
I tried asking catscans to let me help them on Busou Shoujo Machiavellism, but they said no since their translator doesn't feel like prioritizing it.
They also said the series has a lot of redraws. I looked at the chapters. They don't
My nip isn't good enough to translate it myself though

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Is anyone looking at picking up kobayashi's dragon maid?

>>157626358
I can only typeset, but I'm up for helping with pretty much anything by COOL

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>been using photoshop for two years
>learn just now that you can draw a straight line with the brush just by holding shift between two points

does anyone have any other little tips like this, I wanna feel even more stupid than I do right now

>>157626589
>you can draw a straight line with the brush just by holding shift between two points
holy shit
that's ridiculously useful

>>157626589
Hold alt and the right mouse button and move the mouse left-right to change brush size or up-down for hardness.

I have literally no idea how I even learned that one, probably did it by accident once.

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>>157626434
same here but I'm still inexperienced with typesetting. I really want to see those iruru chapters done

>>157626085

this is just a doodle from the author, the actual manga looks more polished. but i see what you mean.

I could use a different font but it might look strange when paired with the manga

>>157626589
idk about photoshop but you can draw a perfectly horizontal/vertical/diagonal line with shift + ctrl in gimp

>>157626589
i've been editting for years now and i honestly do not know half the things you can do with photoshop. i just use clone stamp for everything.

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>>157626725
I've only been typesetting for a little while myself
Right now I'm working on Made in Abyss, but we are almost caught up on that
I'm working with an anon to typeset two Luluco doujins
I've been doing anki and such, because I'd like to be able to translate eventually, but It takes me a good few minutes to get through a page of New Game, and even then I'm really just adding most of the words I see into my mining deck

Pic related is the first page of one of the doujins
I feel like there is a better font out there for the chief
anyone have any suggestions?

>>157626589
YOU CAN WHAT

>>157626886
Yeah, that font fucking sucks. Try palooka or badaboom for shouts.

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>>157626699
oh I actually found about that just RECENTLY and it was a godsend. I actually searched for it because changing brush size gets so tedious if you have to redraw something.

speaking of size, you can change font size by decimals by holding alt and dragging the mouse here from left-right. normally find this useful in high dpi scans, where a tiny difference in font size is barbaric.

>>157626699
All the shortcuts I've discovered have been completely by accident

>>157626979

Either that or Yikes!/Zoinks!

take a look at this guide here it's pretty helpful >>157590992

here was the 2000 fonts mega folder that was referenced earlier in the thread for convenience sake.

https://mega.nz/#!3x1XHZxY!yTmhMU8aeD_l-p4b3ljmLBqXSvQntHvZSKGMAVmhyYE

>>157627002
BEST FONT!

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>>157626979
Thanks
this font looks way better

>>157627144
Thanks for the link as well

>>157626725
>idk about photoshop but you can draw a perfectly horizontal/vertical/diagonal line with shift + ctrl in gimp
Not at home right now to check, but I believe holding shift in PS gives you horizontal/vertical (no 45degree diagonal like gimp though)

>>157626725
>>157625683
Use a font like augie on the hand drawn page
it would look better

>>157617842
>it is almost september
why do translators insist on making shit up? I get that the meaning doesn't really change that much, but that's just literally not what he's saying

>>157627440
Shift in PS is correct. Bear in mind that horizontal/vertical is in relation to the canvas, not the viewport.

>>157627168
Wait, is that Save the World 24?

>>157627732
Yes
We're also doing the non-h one - Can't Take My Eyes Off You

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>>157627626
Idk man i din't so the translations just the cleaning and typesetting

>>157627552
how does this look? I also changed the tittle to creativeblock BB

>>157627904
much better

>>157627626
I can condone making shit up in small cases to fit tone/colloquial speech or maybe (big maybe) to make a bit of subtext clearer, but this example doesn't add anything, it's just changed seemingly for change's sake.
Similarly, he removed some of the stray lines in the art and at least in one place added a bead to the woman's necklace. Removing smudge marks is one thing, but I don't think it's the scanlator's place to edit the art (inb4 scanlating is already out of line to begin with).

>>157627904
"That went fast" is too small.

Working at a real paying job

>>157628125
What a tool.

>>157628125
This might come as a shock, but it's possible to do both.

>>157628213
Yes, but you can only excel at one.
And most of the time it'll be the one that doesn't pay, unfortunately.

>>157628745
Since you have the need to come and brag at a scanlation thread, I bet that you excel at none.

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finished changing over the font to augie.

should Ichange the fonts of the small text from anime ace to something else too?

>>157629258
I would say so
Try one of the fonts from AnonBlack's

>>157629258
also
>tO the Beach

>>157629355
fucking hell.

I swear, every time I go and fix something it somehow comes back from the grave to haunt me

>>157629258
I recommend using Chinacat for the main font, it'll probably look better.

>>157590957
>>157629258
>spending 23 hours on one page

>>157629443
nigga I'm still learning. I've been changing the font like 3 different times, and also I was working on another page at the same time which I was cleaning not just typesetting.

>>157629422
I'll try that and use augie as the small text font then

So there's this manga that I've been following for a while now, back before I started learning japanese.
I checked recently for more chapters in english, but it turns out it's on hold due to "awaiting translation".

I'm no longer a beginner, but I definitely don't think I'm an intermediate yet. I'm at least at the point where I can recognize when I don't know something (if that makes sense).
Would it be a bad idea to give the group an offer to _try_ to translate a chapter? I wouldn't want to waste their time if it turns out to be too hard, you know?

>>157630465
If you can find raws try reading through it and see how you do before offering

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What is the general opinion on shit like in the last panel here
Original sound was something like "Voriririrororo"
And it was a noise made by a giant snake like monster
In this situation would you
Put something that was close enough in like "roar"
Just sound out the japanese word "voriririrororo"
Or leave the japanese text and put in some sort of sfx note

>>157631728
I'm a big fucking weeb and I like to know what the onomatopoeia's sound like so I just write it as a literal translation in a special SFX font unless it's important to the story or something

>>157630465
>I definitely don't think I'm an intermediate yet
So advanced beginner? Please don't translate yet if you aren't confident you can fully understand what you're reading, unless they have someone more advanced than you who can check your attempts at translation.

>Put something that was close enough in like "roar"
"Roar" doesn't capture the sense of the original sound or what I would expect a giant snake monster to sound like.
I would probably keep the romanized japanese sound, but if I were to try to translate it, I would probably pull some Brian Jacques type of bullshit like "screekaakekaa". I feel silly typing that out, but sfx in English tend to sound silly anyway.

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>>157631728
There's also shit like this
this is an official Yenpress TL

>>157632037
for you >>157631728

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>>157632054
INCONSISTENCIES

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>>157632037
makes sense
I felt a little weird about doing that
For the rest of my chapters of MiA I'm trying to do it like this where applicable

>>157630465
Roughly how many kanji do you know?
I'm not suggesting that kanji memorization is the end-all-be-all of the language, but it's probably the best benchmark you can give us off the cuff.

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So anyone willing to TL Dragon maid

I can help typeset

>>157632347
I'm surprised people aren't jumping all over this series
Biggest disappointment of the anime for me was that they didn't get to Iruru
I couple months of nip and about 1k kanji is barely enough for me to struggle through shit like new game and yotsuba
I'd like to help translate but all I can do is typeset

>>157632347
Get that useless meat out of here

>>157632566
Iruru is objectively the cutest dragon

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>>157632536
honestly I have no clue how this series can just get dropped constantly despite being relatively popular.

>>157632641
Maybe whoever's working on chichichichi would be willing once they catch up on that since there's only 2 volumes according to mangaupdates

>>157632747
>maybe

I don't like maybe

usually maybe means "It will never fucking happen"

>>157633242
I posted in the thread for chichichichi just now but I think he might be gone for today
I have no idea where to find translators for things
I tried asking on mangaupdates once
I got 0 responses because people there only care about translating shoujoshit and fujoshit

>>157633242
Then maybe you should work on building up a skillset beyond typesetting.
"I can typeset" or "I can proofread" is like saying "I have tons of great ideas for novels/video games"

>>157633307
>fujoshit

Literally ruining the anime and manga industry

>>157626589
Dammit!!! Now i have to redraw like 15 pages

>>157631728
When I translate I tend to leave SFX untranslated unless there's a specific narrative importance that can't be realized from context. Looking at >>157631728 it's obvious that the sounds are the stone door rumbling and scraping as it closes, even without the awful combination of both literal and localized SFX. Anybody who has ever seen a movie or played a game with a stone dungeon or tomb already knows what that sounds like. At least they didn't remove the original and put in western comic book style text, which is the absolute worst.

For the example you gave, I would translate the roar in the last panel, since it does have significance as a surprise to both the character and the reader. I wouldn't actually use "roar" though, because when I read that all I can think of is a creature literally saying it. Something closer to the original would be better as long as it captures the more rapid undulation of the initial sound and the more elongated at the end. The next page, presumably, is going to reveal the source of the noise, so it isn't vital for the reader to instantly recognize it as a roar specifically. They just need to know that it's a loud, unexpected sound from some kind of animated thing.

>>157633354
>typesetters are as useless as idea guys

>>157633744
Implying typesetters aren't incredibly expendable. Everybody and their moms thinks they can do it.

>>157633963
but having typesetters in important because it keeps the workload split up so translators can focus on translating and cleaners can focus on cleaning etc

it's called division of labor

>>157633744
>>157634069
Do you wanna help me open a restaurant?
I can't cook or manage a business, but I can wait tables.

>>157634318
ok, try running a busy restaurant with only cooks and managers and no waiters

>>157634373
The question is not whether a restaurant needs waitstaff or whether a manga needs typesetting.
Like the other guy said, typesetters are a dime a dozen, so offering your service as one isn't much help, since you're still asking someone else to handle the brunt of the time and skill.

>>157633307
>Cool is great, but I don't have time for any more projects. I also wouldn't go into a scanlation thread even if you paid me to.
no Chorogons today

>>157634546

FUCK

>>157634526
as someone who can only typeset I agree with this
You need to have some other skill worth using or else you can be replaced by just about anyone

>>157629386
Welcome to scanlation in general. Worse is when you finish uploading the rar/torrent and then it gets pointed out even though you checked it yourself at least 5 times.

>>157630518
I can only find raws for volumes 1 and 2 (current scanlation is at volume 3), so I can't do that. I would actually have to ask them for the scans of the chapter.
I did however go and read through the very first chapter, and got through like 60% of it without looking at the actual translation. I'm going to read through a few more chapters to see if I can improve that percentage before making a decision (and even then, I could always do a majority of it, then ask the hundred places on the internet for help on two or three sentences).

>>157631973
I mean, if it's easy enough, why can't I? (don't use the above as a rebuttal)
Besides, I wouldn't lie to the group and give them a script I'm unsure about. There wouldn't be a point in doing that.
>Advanced beginner
Is that not a thing?

>>157632192
I can't get that kanji grid thing to work, so I couldn't tell you. I've got ~550 anki cards right now, but there's definitely some repeats of common kanji in there.
I was focusing more on grammar study before, which is why the amount is so low. Who wants to become a walking dictionary anyway?
Just kidding, I'm starting to add more cards gradually.

>>157636325
>550
definitely not enough
In the djt guide they say 2k is a target number just to start reading with any sort of decent comprehension
just find some nice easy raw manga to read and mine more kanji from and be content with typesetting for now

>>157636473
But dictionaries exist. Why would I have to memorize 2000 words when I can just look them up?

>>157636567
Because you haven't seen them in context enough to understand how to translate them properly.

>>157636473
What exactly is mining in this context?

>>157636567
So you're not a faggot with a crutch. Don't purposely limit yourself.

>>157636325
>~550 anki cards right now, but there's definitely some repeats of common kanji in there.
So those aren't individual kanji, but your total vocabulary?

It's way too early for you to translate anything.

>>157636656
Is this a joke or did you just prove >>157636567 's point?

>>157636719
Fuck, I mean >>157636609 's point.

>>157636567
2k is a minimum for even halfway decent comprehension
most people know way more than that
read through the djt guide again
iirc it says you maybe shouldn't even try reading without knowing 2k
And when it comes to dictionaries
Every time you come across a word you don't know you should be putting it in to a mining deck
If you don't know about that you really should just go to djt

>>157636719
>>157636736
Not a joke it's a totally different person asking. I've thought about trying to learn japanese for a while and was curious to know what the terms like mining, and anki cards have to do with it.

>>157636803
my advice to that guy applies to you as well then
go check out djt in /jp/
read the guide
anki is a flashcard program
mining is reading manga and things to find new words and then put those words and definitions into anki

>>157636803
The phrase isn't unique or specific to DJT, though. Where do you think terms like "data mining" come from? Metaphorically speaking, you dig through a mine(raw manga/LN/etc.) looking for buried ore(unknown kanji) which you then refine(learn) into precious metal(comprehension).

Can anyone think of a way to clean these scans without destroying too much detail and not going crazy with the dodging and burning. I have 1000+ pages of this to do, and doing manually will be painful. Down scaling isn't an option either. 4000px is what I want it at, because I have a 4k monitor.

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>>157637913
What more do you want besides a very slight leveling?

>>157638349
Don't reply to posts unless you're smart enough to answer the question. It just wastes time.

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Anyone have the most recent volume of gangan?