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でも幸せならOKです
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New web novel chapter when? Both for arc 5 translation and arc 6 raws.
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>>157560447
Who knows? When Tappei is updating, it's usually a chapter every few days.

Anyhow, there seems to be a character named "Tia" that everyone likes from the new Rem IF novel, going by twitter comments. Some people apparently wanted Rem and Subaru to adopt her.
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>>157560631
Oh, and someone mentioned Capella in a tweet about the book. Not sure why she'd be brought up, but there you have it. As far as I can decipher, it seems things didn't start out so well for them.
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>>157560504
Literally reverse-cuck.
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>>157560447
Summaryanon is in the intermission between Arcs 4 and 5.
There's 9 chapters but he's skipping 2 (that aren't plot or main-cast relevant).
So... estimate here, we'll get to Arc 5 in 2 or 3 weeks?
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>>157560280
TRANSLATE PLS?????
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>>157560631
Can't be adopting anyone when they've got babies to make.
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These threads are slowly becoming more nip as each day passes
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>>157561285
Something like 'How do you feel about Subaru and Emilia falling in love at first sight?'
'It was a big shock'
'But as long as he's happy its okay'

Cuck
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>>157561516
Well, I'm hoping Remonwater gets his copy soon. This shit is probably going to be pretty exciting.
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What's the context of the ayamatsu IF story? It's how things would play out if Subaru were a batshit insane yandere-at-first-sight?
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Subaru doesn't deserve someone as perfect as Rem anyway
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>157561516
They only have two kids who are still very small even after like 9 years or so of marriage. Clearly baby-making wasn't the first thing coming to their mind after they got married. So stop saying like they are that horny.
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>>157562087
Oni are the least fertile race, and Rigel was conceived in their first year together. Meaning Subaru got her pregnant when she was 17-18. The IF stories mention that this did indeed happen because they were just that horny.
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>>157562087
But they literally accidentally had Rigel within the first year even with the terrible fecundity of Oni. Then they held off so Rigel could be old enough to take care of his younger siblings before flipping into full baby making mode. Rem wants a soccer team, she might as well be trying to land on the moon in Oni terms.
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>>157561537
それがよい
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>>157562352
>accidentally
Don't tell me they had raw, unprotected sex like crazy and really expected Rem to NOT get pregnant. How could it even be "accidental"?
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>>157562867
>Subaru-kun I heard that Onis don't get pregnant easily so it's okay to go nuts. Also I heard everyone I've ever known got butchered by witch cultists and then a giant cat froze the kingdom so we should do something to distract ourselves.
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>>157562867
Rem and Ram were the only Oni born to an entire village in at least a decade or so. I'm pretty sure the Natsuki Rem chapters mention they were having a lot of sex, and that's how Rigel happened.
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>>157563154
Maybe oni just have weak sperm
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>>157562087
Onis have the lowest fertility rates of all races, they had sex every day for a year or withing a year to get a Rigel.
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>>157563174
If that were the case there'd be a bunch of half-breed Onis running around or Ram would be pregnant.
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>>157561537
You that that like its a bad thing
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>>157561977
please respond
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>>157563783
An entire country got sat on fire through Subaru's kekkaiku and lead the Witch Cult into a glory age after backstabbing all of his fellow Archbishops.
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>>157561977
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>>157563783
The context is that he never called for help in the alleyway, so he never got Reinhard to help him out there. Everything else stems from that.
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>>157563870
Is that the one where Reinhardt kills Eren in rage for Eren killing the citizens he was sworn to protect?
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>>157563783
Lelouch but with an elf fetish
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>>157563908
>Eren
Sorry, meant Toyota. I was at the snk thread earlier. S-sugimasen
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>>157563783
isn't it
>subaru dies a shitload trying to beat Elsa/save Emilia
>goes a little nuts over like 88 deaths
>figures out a way to save Emilia and recruits Elsa
>story goes on from there
it's been a little bit since I read it though.
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>>157563904
That's the only difference? So Subaru's actually a psychopath deep down?
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>>157563968
Not really a psychopath, just a villain. You need to read the chapter to get proper context how he ended up like that though, RbD has a weird way of corrupting people.
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>>157561977
>The spillovers of battle echo behind him, distant.
>Buildings collapse one after another throughout the blazing Capital, shrieks and wails echoing through this hell. Children calling for parents, parents calling for children, men calling for women, women calling for men in the screeching pandemonium of this hell.
>Yes. This is the hell that Subaru created. Created this hell, destroyed Reinhardt's false image, and achieved his goal.
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>>157563991
Is it implied Honda will slowly go crazy from RbD in the future?
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>>157563968
That's the only difference, though it leads into him dying 88 times only for fucking Reinhardt to show up out of nowhere and accidentally solve the loop like it's nothing.
He definitely has the makings for a petty reprehensible lunatic creep but he needs to be broken a little before it sets in
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>>157563968
Subaru has psychopath potential, but Subaru's mostly just an obnoxious jackass deep down. With the right conditions, he could have been a decent Bishop. And by decent, I mean a total shithead.
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>>157564024
I'd argue he's already crazy, its just that there a a few things that tie him together preventing him from going full-blown crazy.
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>>157564101
I want to see Subaru finally form a mouth and have a proper conversation with the archbishops talking in his head soon, if Subaru is anything like he was with the Witches there will be some fun banters.
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>>157564121
It'll just be a wall of aishiteru
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>>157561837
I really wish it was here already but I have a feeling it might not get to me until the beginning of next month
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>>157564162
keep on truckin senpai. Rewatching and reading some Rem stuff has healed my heart this week.
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>>157564121
Why are one of the most horrible people in this series so entertaining? Why do they have such good chemistry with the MC?
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>>157564344
Because Subaru and the Witches are from the same template, inherently villainous people get along well with other inherently villanous people. Maybe except for Carmilla, all Subaru wanted to do was bash her face in because she tried to copy his beloved blue haired waifu.
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>>157564389
I dunno if you can call them inherently villanous anon. Since all Minverva wanted to do was heal people, Echidna just wanted to experiment, Typhon wanted to serve justice on sinners, Dahene wanted to end world hunger, Sekhmet wanted to find a place where she be lazy all day and Carmilla just wanted to be treated like a normal girl. Its just their methods towards that goal are nonsensical.
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>>157564344
The same reason why he works so well with Elsa in the ayamatsu
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>>157564501
Pretty sure a number of those was committing genocide at some point in their lives so
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>>157564582
Well it wasn't like they meant it. It was something that happened, like a little oopsie.
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>>157563194
Holy shit this is cute
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>>157563968
The only thing stopping Subaru from being a psychopath is that he's never gotten the chance to kill anybody.
First time he does, he'll call off the whole "spiral into madness" thing and just dive straight in.
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>>157564896
So you're assuming once Ley turns into flesh paste Subaru will go down the villain route? I can see it.
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>>157564896
Subaru would have killed one (1) whole clown if mr massive pussy hadn't punched his shit in
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>>157564024
Multiple uses of any Authority tend to do that, yes.
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>>157564501
Minerva killed large numbers of people purely out of self-satisfaction. Echidna was well intentioned. The road to he'll is paved with good intentions, the road to heaven is paved with good works. Typhon wanted to kill people so she could feel like she was above them. Daphne was just as eager to end overpopulation.

Carnilla and Sekhmet I'll give you though.
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>>157564896
Pretty sure Subaru has killed two archbishops already.
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>>157565231
Suubs orchestrated both deaths, but commuted neither.
Pete commuted suicide and Reinhard killed Regulus.
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>>157565231
>>157565296
Actually, come to think of it, Reinhard injures Regulus and then Regulus drowns himself by mistake.
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>>157563552
I said nip not derp
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>>157560280
Am I just in time for the latest dank Japanese meme?
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>>157560631
Is there a chance that the novel gets translated? I really want to read it
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>>157563519
>there'd be a bunch of half-breed Onis running
Oni pride made them kille single-horned onis, easily they wouldn't let half-breeds to be either

>or Ram would be pregnant
It's actually they didn't actually have sex, and othewise Roswaal is not interested in having a demi off-spring so he most likely used contraceptives with her
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>>157564691
my maid folder is lacking please post blue maids. pink maid is cool too.
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>>157565786
Were the not fucking after Arc 4?
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>>157565870
she wants to but he's not interested
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>>157560280
>>157562109
New jap meme?
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>>157565296
He killed Pete. He even comments on it occasionally.
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>>157566051
He talked Pete out of living.
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>>157565850
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>>157566195
No he didn't, the dude got pulled into a wagon wheel.
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>>157564101
Will Subaru become a complete family unit for Emilia once he kills Sirius?
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>>157566219
>I'm your Daddy/Mommy/Boyfriend now Emilia-tan
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>>157566219
He still needs to eat Puck. Then he can be her mom, dad, prospective boyfriend, AND the family cat
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>>157566209
Julius killed the body well before that.
Pete called it quits from seeing Satella give no ducks about him and from the Gospel graffiti.
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>>157566294
He didn't 'call it quits' he got ground into paste. He was still active before he was utterly annihilated from being on fire and crushed into nothing. All messing with the book did was piss him off and reaching for it caused him to fall outside the windbreak protection and get pulled away.
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>>157566256
The cat is also her dad
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>Oh shit, it's the newest dank jap meme thread.
>Nope, it's just another Rezero thread.
マジでショックです
まぁでも幸せならOKです
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>>157566362
I'm your double dad
Your double spirit dad
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>>157566378
Your ghost dad
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>>157561830
Nah, she's gonna confess to him anyway and take him from her, for closure!
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>>157566860
funny and cruel. i like it.
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>>157566219
Its pretty fucked how how Subaru is going to end up killing both of Emilia's parents without her knowledge
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>>157560280

Is she ok in the LN or she still ded?
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>>157567277
You didn't read the spoilers? It was all an elaborate prank.
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>>157567277
Not yet but good news is that she might soon be bad news is Subaru lost all his memories.
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Who's Emilia
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>>157567783
>Oh boy, Satella, finally a familiar face
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>>157568042
>Emilia?
>That's a cool name
>But it'd be cooler if it started with an S like mine and sort of sounded like it had something to do with stars like mine and man I got it okay it's awesome da-da-da-daaaah Satella!!!!!!
>I love nicknames
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Is that Rem gangbang scanned yet? Need a good fap
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>>157568042
Subaru catches a case of the aishiterus
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>>157568151
Which one?
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>>157568376
Someone posted it here but I didn't save it. It was a single panel of Rem getting gangbanged hard. It was colored too.

Somebody please tell me they saved that pic
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>>157565958
>>157565359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0mBOLUQyJY
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>>157560280
Re:zero was shit, the plot was constantly getting reset rehasing a decent amount of episodes, even though it matters to the story for Subaru to learn that way it's not enjoyable when episodes merge into one. The element he was unable to tell anyone made interactions with others made it one sided as fuck, you don't really feel like Emilia is a friend of subarus, just someone that wants to help. It takes so long to finally get to the real villian, that at least was an improvement. Subaru is also such a beta, scared fuck having him being the only real main character most of the time made it unenjoyable, and characters like Rem and Emilia are just to oh so perfect and nice.
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>>157568499
Can you say that again in English?
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>>157568151
Be careful
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>>157568589
Good thing I don't have a cat.
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>>157568499
Quality parody post
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>>157568499
What?
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>>157565086
Sekhmet killed off all her fellow giants and Carmilla started a war between two kingdoms, though Carmilla's wasn't entirely her fault.
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>>157568499
>Papa Bete
>The real villain of the series
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Looks like no new WN chapter tonight, Tappei just discarded all he wrote.
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We're at the halfway point of 2017. Has the little blueberry woke up yet?
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>>157569428
No but Subaru lost his memories, Julius wants to commit seppukku and Anastasia is dying so there's that.
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>>157569492
>but Subaru lost his memories
Holy shit I haven't been to the thread in a while what the fuck did I miss?
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>>157569354
He's probably reading his twitter and lurking 2ch with a shit-eating grin
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>>157569571
>>157492794
>>157493083
From latest chapters
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>Tappei gets hit by a truck and isekai'd before Rem wakes up
what do you do?
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>>157569354
TAPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>157569940
Rem's not waking up for another year
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I will endure this Arc 6

Rem will wake up someday
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read some of the stuff a while ago but i dont remember exactly what chapter i left off at
it was just after the crusch and rem stuff and subaru and co. were trying to figure out what to do
so im guessing i start exactly at arc 4 or is there some more before?
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>>157570945
It most likely was the interlude between Arc 3 and 4
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>>157570945
https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
Crusch and Rem get attacked in Interlude 2 and then comes Interlude 3. Then Arc 4. My advice is to read all the available chapters on Chicken's site and then move to anon.
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>>157569354
Fearing for his life?
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>>157570862
As soon as memeboy kisses her for memes while having no memories of her.
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Why didn't Roswaal's gospel just tell him to provide Subaru with full support from the start instead of instructing him to mess with a guy with time leap powers?
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>>157571817
the gospels are bullshit
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https://mega.nz/#!kVc2yJ4Q!WvHBV5v9CAzWmh41FPHlmis3KGwUnJ5R2KzCBs7Bs8E
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>>157571919
fuck yes
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>>157571919
thanks
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>>157571817
Simple.

Because what Roswaal wants isn't what Subaru wants. The Gospel shows its holder that prime path to his or her desires. Meaning anything deviating from that will make achieving Roswaal's goals unlikely or not in the way he wants.
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>>157571919
Based anon
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>>157571919
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>>157572164
Except Roswaal's gospel could've lived longer if it didn't go against Subaru, so it clearly wasn't the optimal path. Roswaal himself says that making Emilia ruler is in line with his plans, so theoretically the gospel should've told him to at least support Subaru up until Emilia wins the throne.
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>>157571817
>>157572164
Also Roswaal just assumes the Gospel is guiding him towards his goals, but the true agenda of such books is still undisclosed
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>>157572221
obv the gospel has determined that Subaru stops trying to make Emilia ruler if left to his own devices
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A rare downybangsbarusu
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>>157572301
It's been a while since I've seen this
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>>157572301
my moon is terrible but I won't be fooled by your memes
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[Emilia: The reason Rem-san came to reeally love you. I’m sure it’s because she got to see Subaru’s good side up close, a lot. You’re kind of like a disease that sometimes becomes really incredible, and does some reeally incredible things]

[Subaru: A disease? I… can’t actually deny that]

Subaru scratched his cheek and pouted, showing his dissatisfaction. Emilia, unaffected, held her stern expression as if to say “it’s true you know”, then, closing her eyes

[Emilia: I won’t fall for you that easily you know]

[Subaru: That makes the effort all the more worth it! One day, I will make Emilia-tan go all gooey and fall for me, wake Rem from her sleep, and settle this in a nice way. Aaaah, I’m smiling just thinking about it!]

>6 months ago
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>>157572245
Doubtful, his love at first sight for her is so strong that it's even suspicious.
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>>157572414
>[Emilia: The reason Rem-san came to reeally love you. I’m sure it’s because she got to see Subaru’s good side up close, a lot.
>[Emilia: I won’t fall for you that easily you know]
wtf is this shit? Is she trashtalking Rem? And since when does Emilia understand anything about falling for someone?
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>>157572483
>[Emilia: I won’t fall for you that easily you know]
>didn't dodge the "baby making" kiss
yeah she's just a hard-to-get playing attention whore
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>>157572414
>[Emilia: I won’t fall for you that easily you know]

it will be too late
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>>157571919
HAIL THE DARK LORD AND HIS PROPHET SUMMARYANON
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>>157572414
>One day, I will make Emilia-tan go all gooey and fall for me, wake Rem from her sleep, and settle this in a nice way. Aaaah, I’m smiling just thinking about it!
Things like this are what makes me think the romance in this series is shit, which is a shame because it could have been fucking amazing if the author sticked with Rem romance and expanded it rather than come up with some dumbass love triangle and make everything complicated for no good reason.
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>>157572892
funny how arc 5 Subaru doesn't like it when Emilia compliments him
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>>157572886
Could he potentially grope a lot of women in public without them finding out
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>>157572221
Gospel does not account for RBD and Satella which is why it lost. And if what you say was true it would have done that but you don't know that nor do you have any basis for it. So safe to say that unilaterally supporting Subaru and Emilia is going to screw him over. Besides the Gospel isn't prefect with prediction abilities, but it's more than it's wrong when Subaru isn't fucking things up by making it harder to draw a path to the future. Pete understood how bad this was when Subaru appeared beofre despite not being written for to do so.
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>>157572483
>>157572733

Jesus Christ, why is everything a waifuwar with you people?
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>>157573339
Just frustration, people hate when romance stagnates and dense characters.
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Dark Lord Fourier >>> Dark Lord Subaru
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>>157573339
what waifuwar? I'm not even comparing characters here. just stating that Emilia's inconsistent and self contradicting
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>>157573299
>So safe to say that unilaterally supporting Subaru and Emilia is going to screw him over.
Well he's pretty much forced to do that now.
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>>157573434
>Fourier
Found the catfaggot
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>>157573431
of course people will be frustrated if the main heroine is such a cunt
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>>157573602

You should be rewarded
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Is Subaru a pedo for loving someone mentally underage?
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Never liked any loli before Rem.
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>>157573821
She's just short.
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>>157573796
nah he lost interest when he found out
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>>157573926
But he still wants to bone Emilia?
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>>157573688
People should express their anger at the author instead. He could have settled the romance perfectly by making Rem the only love interest after Subaru realized how huge she was to him and killed himself for her. But no he overcomplicated it, made it drag on forever, and paved the way for endless waifuwar debates even though the love triangle is not even good to begin with. So instead of being more compelling and believable, the romance is now just silly and also much less enjoyable.
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>>157564008
>Reinhardt saw hell and only hell.
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>>157574019
he could anytime but he doesn't
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>>157573431
>>157573487
>>157573688

None of which had anything to do with an innocuous comment. You're stupid hair trigger buthurt every single little thing about romance in this shows you need go outside or something. No every fucking is attack or defense for your waifu. It's childish things like why trolls and other people shit fanbase so much around here.

Just fuck off with that nonsense already and take stick out of your ass.
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>>157574261
oh look, ESL is here to defend Emilia-taaaaan!
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>>157574028
>ITT why didn't the author pick my waifu insteed waahhhh

Nobody cares Jan. Stop reading if bothers you because Tappei doesn't have to cater to you.
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>>157574037
You mean he could but it would be rape.
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>>157574305
>anon complains that the stupid love triangle is unnecessary and only fuels waifuwars
>ITT why didn't the author pick my waifu insteed waahhhh
wtf, read first before commenting
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>>157574293
I'm not ESL and I don't give a shit about Emilia or Rem. I just hate you fags for shitting up the threads 90% of the time with your crying. So take you boogieman and shove it already. No wonder lots of people hate on Remfags.
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>>157574358
no it wouldn't be rape
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>>157574358
I'ts admittedly really fuzzy as morally (instead of legally) speaking you can't draw a clean line about at which age consent is genuine.

Some legitimately civilized countries have age of consent as low as 14 for example
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>>157574376
how about you turn on your brain and think about why people are like this in first place? Don't act like it's not what the author aimed for
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>>157569098
Sekhmet one is bullshit. Where are you getting the info?
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>>157574376
>No wonder lots of people hate on Remfags.
>ESL
>Spfag
>shitposter-kun
the remfags, huh?
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>>157574382
>>157574408
Well is Emilia actually down to fuck with Subaru?
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>>157574470
The newest chapters of arc 6, the one where they met Reid.
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>>157574366
I did. You're bitching about Subaru choosing someone he had been love with since near the beginning of this series. That's your entirely fucking post. My point stands.

If you don't like Subaru loves two people than write your own stupid story and take your buthurt with you.
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>>157574503
most likely yes
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>>157574506
>You're bitching about Subaru choosing someone
no anon, I'm bitching about Subaru NOT choosing someone you dumb fuck
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>>157574530
Does she even know what fucking is yet?
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>>157574572
who cares? just tell her it makes babies and she's all in
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>>157574470
It's mentioned in an Arc 6 chapter that she killed most of her race, who abandoned her because she was a runt. An older Q&A mentions that Giants are scarce because Sekhmet killed most of them.
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>>157574408
Emilia isn't actually 14 though. Her age is really meaningless here because it's not linear. So if Subaru fucks her nobody will think anything weird of it. Heck, Crusch, Ram and Wilhelm support the ship or at least aware of it. So it really more about whenever she ready once she sorts her subconscious feelings.
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>>157574631
>Heck, Crusch, Ram and Wilhelm support the ship
literally none of them gives a fuck
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>>157574631
>but your honor, she looked 18 so it doesn't matter if she's 13!
Doesn't work that way.
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>>157574305
No anon I just want to make the romance actually good. Hell I would actually prefer having no romance at all to having to see this dumbass love triangle that gives me rage every single goddamn time I read it. Like do you seriously think Subaru memeflirting with Emilia and saying stupid shit like "I love two girls equally and want to fuck both," "Just you wait, I will make you mine" like a jackass despite just having emotional and tragic moments like the suicide scene, Carmilla scene, and his visit to Rem's room every night scene, etc. is okay? Is your taste for romance story that terrible?
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>>157574631
People who know Emilia seem to treat her like a child in some respects, so her maturity is an issue. The reason she doesn't know about sex is because everyone thinks she's not ready to know yet.
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>>157574611
>>157574504
Holy hell, thank you, anons. The fuck Tappei is smoking, wrecking my shit up again
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>>157574591
>who cares?
That kind of is taking advantage, anon.
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>>157574697
it's because nobody wants to explain it to her, they should just give her a book
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>>157574420
Pairing shit is a part of plot and not something dragged into fucking everything. Moreover waifwars are just same song and dances when bitch characters you don't like. You act like the author is entitled to hear you whine because you have a mouth and opinion. In reality nobody cares how you want Rem to win and Emilia to lose or vice versa. It's overdone and old already.
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You fight about the same things in every single thread. Pathetic.
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>all these fags too unintelligent to be polyamorous
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>>157574500
>Everyone who dislikes Rem is all those people 2 of which haven't in weeks.

Okay paranoid fuck.
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>>157574631
Well the point is the morality of the act in itself instead of what other people would think of it. Subaru knows that mentally she is younger than it looks, but being 13-14 it might be old enough that convincing her to have sex might not count as taking advantage
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Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru out
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>>157574569
No you're bitching about him not choosing Rem and suddenly dropping his feeling for another person. This last I'm going to respond to you because your clearly too dense to even get that base reasoning.
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>>157574847
>most hated people are ESL, shitposter-kun and spfag, all of them emiliafags
>people hate Remfags!
you're fucking retarded
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>>157574802 c >>157574929
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>>157574774
Arc 5 says it's because they're all too overprotective of Emilia. They aren't going to give her a book.
>>157574728
That's not much of a twist. The Witches caused more trouble than the Bishops. There are no safe Witches. Minerva comes the closest, but she's still fucking up shit somewhere else whenever she heals people.
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>>157567685
top ten deadliest pranks in anime
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>>157574783
Conversely, the reader is free to criticize what he sees as bad writing
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>>157574967
not my fault ram is mad that emilia is red and she isnt
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>>157574931
are you a fucking animeonly? my problem is that he doesn't choose at all, I would stop giving a fuck when he finally does but the author will drag this dumb romance until the very end and until then we will have those retarded waifuwars in every thread
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>>157575023
>we will have those retarded waifuwars in every thread
We'll have these retarded waifuwars as long as people want to keep them going. It'd be pretty easy if people could just let people bitch about characters and plot elements without arguing too much about it.
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>>157574929
Is Ram okay with polyandry? Hope she will marry Garfiel too so she can end Garf x Ram x Roswaal love triangle shit once and for all.
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>>157571919
>Subaru: “No, was just thinking that mulling over things without being frantic about it is bliss. Wow! No matter how everything falls, there's no bloodshed and nobody dies!”
>Emilia: “Subaru...”
>Subaru shoots her a thumbs up, his teeth sparkling, but Emilia looks at him with incredible pity.
>Subaru thinks back on his statement, figuring that he must have said something strange. And then shocks himself at what a brutal, inappropriate comment it was, and how impoverished his desires are.

Holy shit.
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God damn bros. Go out and come back when you have calmed down.
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I don't want any waifu wars, I don't care about who wins or loses the Subarubowl, just please, please wake Rem up already, Tappei.
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>>157575165
The art style couldn't fit any less than this for this type of scene.
Look at how small Subaru is, look at his fucking face. He looks like he's 10.
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>>157574660
They certainly do considering they have outright comment or tease Subaru about it. Or are you saying the text is suddenly lying?

>>157574686
Doesn't work what way? He's 17 and her mental age 14 not her actual age. Very little of this factors into their ship which treated like normal teenage romance. Tappei and rest of fandom don't give fuck so your nitpicking and excuse don't mean anything thing.

>>157574697
Yes, but rarely. They don't act or talk down to her at all about things she doesn't know. They explain to her like you would to an adult who didn't know customs. That's why there no bad blood or annoyance on her part.
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>>157575254
>Doesn't work what way?
It doesn't if you know that she's actually 13
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>>157574686
The law doesn't give a shit unless you have some mental issues (e.g. you're heavily retarded) or you are under the age of consent.

Emilia's not under the age of consent and does not have any type of mental illness, the law in our world would not be an issue.
Now if you consider their world, I'm sure they give even less of a fuck.
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>>157575254
>They certainly do considering they have outright comment or tease Subaru about it. Or are you saying the text is suddenly lying?
Crush and Wilhelm barely talked to Emilia, ever. How can they support a relationSHIP if they only know one of the involved? It could have been any girl and they'd have said the exact same.
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>>157575254
>They explain to her like you would to an adult who didn't know customs.
That's also how they explain it to the literal children. Has anyone in this story talked down to a child?
>and rest of fandom don't give fuck
I've actually seen Japanese people express annoyance with it. You can't just an entire fandom from just one venue.
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>>157575006
If only that were the actual issue and not an excuse to continue bitching.
Emiliafags and Remfags get the fuck out.
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>>157575321
But Subaru operates by our world's laws, so it's intellectually dishonest of him to romantically love a girl he acknowledges as "mentally loli" especially when he says he's not into lolis.
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>>157575373
these are actual issues, the romance is a big part of the plot if you didn't notice yet
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>>157575165
I want Rem to wake up and be corrupted and convince her husbando to join the dark side (like the fan art here >>157560631).
They will make a hella good couple of villains.
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>>157575321
>>157575383
And considering it under a purely legalistic view is very obtuse
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>>157575383
>especially when he says he's not into lolis.
Only because he's not hot enough t get away with it.
>while lamenting, “So hot guys can get away with being lolicons...”
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>>157575444
I'm considering it from Subaru's view. Subaru says he's not into lolis, while acknowledging Emilia as being mentally a loli. Therefore we can say that Subaru is the type of guy who would knowingly fuck physically mature 13 year olds.
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>>157575383
>But Subaru operates by our world's laws
Yes, and our world laws don't care. I just mentioned it, you retard. Our world cares only about how mature your body is and if you have some mental issue, Emilia doesn't have any of that.
> so it's intellectually dishonest of him to romantically love a girl he acknowledges as "mentally loli" especially when he says he's not into lolis.
So whenever it fits your narrative, Subaru is both lying and both telling the truth, huh?
Fine, then he clearly lied and he's into lolis, since he also jokes about how only hot guys can get away with being lolicons.
Or maybe he doesn't really consider Emilia a "loli" and he sees her as a 14 year old naive, innocent girl.
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>>157574880
Subaru doesn't just recognize her as 14 as a mental age isn't a real age. He also recognizes her actual age. Even then he's only 3 years older if you instead on using mental age and looks just as old as him. He doesn't talk to her like he's older than her either. Basically he has no problem pursing her, but he just don't want to push into a romantic relationship until she completely conformable with it rather than her being undecided but leaning towards yes.
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>>157575499
That's him being jealous that hot guys can do what they want, since he views being a lolicon as bad. Also he monologues about not being interested in lolis so there's that.
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>>157575396
>these are actual issues
Yes, bad writing is an issue.
But our case is not a case of bad writing, thus, it's not an issue.
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>>157575531
>if you have some mental issues
Being mentally retarded definitely counts
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>>157575579
If only Emilia wasn't mentally retarded, huh?
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>>157575605
But she is, so there's that
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Out. Back when calmed.
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>>157575565
dragging out the romance IS bad writing, why do you think it was revealed that Subaru also loves Rem right before she got nom'd? So people would still read that shit instead of dropping it because they hate the SubaruEmilia romance. The author is not confident enough in his writing so he comes up with shit like "he loves them both! please keep reading!" instead of making a clear point
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>>157575705
This. And it's annoying.
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The fact that Subaru would have fucked Emilia if she were a bit more mature really leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It's like Rem revealed to be Subaru's heart's girl in that one scene is so meaningless and loses lots of impacts now because Subaru gives no shit about her and still wants to fuck Emilia first anyway.
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>>157575705
>right before
your perception of time is kinda fucked (as in he said that shit SEVERAL chapters before getting omnomnombdsadwnomnommfgfnom'd) and people can love multiple people

of course an animeonly fag reading the pastebin summaries would say some stupid shit like this

just because you're not capable of a kind of emotion doesnt mean others arent
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>>157575705
>dragging out the romance IS bad writing
No, this is a non sequitur. It could be a case of bad writing if we weren't given a motivation.
>why do you think it was revealed that Subaru also loves Rem right before she got nom'd?
So we're given a reason for his incessant obsession with waking her up and talking to her at night?
>So people would still read that shit instead of dropping it because they hate the SubaruEmilia romance.
Riiiiiiight... That's exactly why this author wrote those scenes.
>The author is not confident enough in his writing so he comes up with shit like "he loves them both! please keep reading!" instead of making a clear point
Or maybe, it's a case of the character really loving both.
Or maybe he's emotionally immature.
Or maybe he loves one of them but lies to himself that he loves both.
Or maybe he really loves no one and he lies to himself that he is capable of love.
Etc.

It's clear to me at this point that Re:Zero fans are retarded.
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>>157575789
the only reason Subaru didn't fuck Emilia yet is because the author is too afraid to piss off the Remfags since "he loves them both equally" so he must treat them equally. Emilia did get a kiss already, she can't get another one until Rem gets one. That whole bs about Emilia not knowing what sex is and "kisses make babies" is just an excuse to drag out the romance
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>>157575705
I'm still holding out for the possibility that Subaru's been witched into loving Emilia so hard.
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>>157575023
No.

And he did choose which was both of them. Doesn't mean polygamy ending will happen, but that his stance. It wouldn't be weird for that ending to occur either since a number of LNs like Zero's Familiar have done it.
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>>157575839
>(as in he said that shit SEVERAL chapters before getting omnomnombdsadwnomnommfgfnom'd)
are you stupid? Do you think the author doesn't plan this shit beforehand? He bets that people like you don't see this whole bullshit he's doing
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>>157575881
It's not like she was 8-9 when her guardians were butchered in her face. Clearly, they should have taught the 8-9 year old about sex and making babies because we're in a modern setting, yep.

Please read the WN before you bullshit.
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>>157575134
Hahaha he's kind of broken from all his experiences isn't he?
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>>157575918
read the post i was replying to and try again you fucking retard
i was disputing his claim of the author throwing in the rem love last minute
get the dick out of your mouth
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>>157575165
Finally!

Somebody who just cares about Rem regardless what happens. I thought I was the only one.
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>>157575881
My point is that Subaru wanting to fuck Emilia first despite Rem being his heart's girl is very tasteless and cheapens the overall romance dramatically. That's bad writing.
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>>157575789
>first
I don't think Subaru gives a shit about order. Also, Subaru seems to be hesitant about actually making progress in the later Arcs, and that is something that he relates to Rem. Right now, I just think Subaru experiences an extreme level of cognitive dissonance, and doesn't actually want to analyze his own feelings too deeply.

His mind has been all twisted around into a fucking pretzel by everything, and so there are certain contradictions in his attitude. He likes how Emilia compliments him in this latest chapter, but he starts feeling uncomfortable with it in later Arcs. He's looking forward to making progress with her, then he's uneasy about it later.

Subaru probably memeboys because that's easier than untangling the complete mess that his thoughts and feelings are.
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>>157576088
Subaru doesn't think about who he wants to fuck first
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>>157576088
You're the only one that thinks about this, the character himself hasn't been considering this since arc fucking 1.
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>>157576128
But he already wants to fuck Emilia even though his heart's girl that is Rem still sleeping, doesn't he? That's what I meant by "first." Rem revealed to be Subaru's heart's girl is so unnecessary now because order clearly doesn't matter and Subaru will fuck anyone within his reach regardless of who he loves more.
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>>157576268
If you are facing the focal point on where Subaru starts memeflirting around Emilia about children you really need to take another read.
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>>157576268
>why isn't my waifu winning even though we're still missing 5 arcs and a half from the story?
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>>157565958
Yes.
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>>157576174
Arc 2 was the one where he wanted to fuck Emilia, though he dropped most of his focus on losing his virginity or getting cucked by Roswaal by the end of that one.
>>157576268
Japanese has an odd way of not exactly having plurals in the same way we have here. Rem could either be "The girl in his heart" or "A girl in his heart". But yes. Subaru would fuck either of them. Maybe. Subaru often talks or thinks bigger than what he'd actually go through with.

If Emilia suddenly wanted to fuck him, he'd probably chicken out.
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Re:zero romance explained

>write SE romance
>people don't like it that much
>write SR romance because it's necessary for "from zero"
>Rem gets super popular
>Subaru rejects Rem
>fans are upset, dropping the show
>author comes up with the "he loves them both " idea
>Remfags are happy, keep reading
>put Rem in coma right after confession
>coma= she'll come back
>now SE has as much time as needed to become popular
>Subaru kisses Emilia
>oh wait, he can't do more/gain because that wouldn't be equal and fair to Rem
>afraid of losing the Ramfag readers again
>Emilia is a child mentally and Subaru doesn't want to abuse that! <- author's excuse
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>>157576324
What? He mentions he wants to have sex with Emilia. That's different from his typical memeflirting anon.
>>157576325
I'm criticizing the author's writing here actually.
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>>157576455
And the man finally shows himself ladies and gentlemen.
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>>157575305
The people who know that she mental 14 which is just Subaru don't care. It doesn't change his feelings and he doesn't treat her like a loli.

>>157575335
Since when do they have know Emilia intimately to know how Subaru feels about her? How does that make any sense? This not about Emilia's feelings but his! Everyone from Roswaal to Wilhelm knows because he wears his feelings on his sleeve when he's around her. WTF

>>157575351
>That's also how they explain it to the literal children. Has anyone in this story talked down to a child?

...What in the world are talking about? People teach others do not do so as if they are talking with kids unless they are taking to literal kid. When Ram was teaching Subaru how to write was treating him like a kid? When Emilia was helping him read some books in the library before their departure to Sanctuary was sh treating him like a kid?

>I've actually seen Japanese people express annoyance with it. You can't just an entire fandom from just one venue.

I don't care what some Japanese feel about it, just majority and those who interact with Tappei do. Many of these people are to busy drawing fanarts of both pairings even as fans of either Emilia or Rem to care. It just further shows how stupid and unproductive the arguing about all this is. We can talk about it for years and wouldn't make either pairing likely to because you don't like the other one.
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>>157576455
>He mentions he wants to have sex with Emilia.
He's wanted to do that since Arc 2. He even told that to Roswaal while they were bathing together.
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>>157576408
Pretty much.
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>>157576408
Is this Tappei's 4D chess?
>>157576455
You're retarded.
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>>157576408
The problem with this timeline is all of these events were planned before Rem became popular
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>>157576408
>fans are upset, dropping the show
The WN you mean.
Also WN anon, how many comments said they'd drop it when "From Zero" came? I only heard you mention people still holding out for Rem to win or waiting for Emilia to get development too
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>>157576540
Rem was already popular by the end of arc 2. Author knew he'd have to give her the from zero role and that she'd only get more popular but not that much as she became
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>>157576540
B-BB-B-BBBU-BBUT ANON, IT'S CLEAR THAT TAPPEI IS BAMBOOZLING YOU.
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>>157560280
>Lazy character design
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>>157576516
One would think Subaru would change after being in love with Rem and especially after that Carmilla's scene, but nope. Clearly Rem romance made no impact on Subaru whatsoever here, which makes me feel so pissed.
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>>157575521
So why isn't he lusting after Betty and Petra? Hell Betty would willing fuck him at this point and she probably doesn't know much about romance either.

It's pretty obvious that Subaru doesn't put much weight into a intangible age he just came up with.
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>>157576623
Because they don't have mature bodies you dunce. Did you even read the post? You realize there are 12 year olds in real life who look 18+ right?
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>>157575845
>It's clear to me at this point that Re:Zero fans are retarded.

Well the ones on here anyway. Most of them here a waifufags who attacking other ships because they think it will make their ship win.
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>>157576695
>Well the ones on here anyway.
listen ESL, did you ever read jap forums? They have the exact same discussion as we have
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>>157576612
...nothing in common besides hair color
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>>157576733
That's a good definition of autism anon
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>>157576513
>...What in the world are talking about?
In this story, has anyone ever talked down to the children who are literally children? It's hard to distinguish if people treat a character as a child or not if they treat adults and children in a more or less similar manner in most circumstances.

The only times in this series that I recall people talking down to children was mostly when they deliberately wanted to annoy someone. Like Roswaal with Ram, or Subaru with Betty. The only exception I recall being when Emilia was treating Subaru like an idiot child.
>>157576617
And later Subaru is hesitant about actually developing a closer relationship with Emilia. I don't put too much weight on his every frivolous thought. But yes, he's still attracted to Emilia.
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>>157568499
AO shitters, everyone.
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>>157576268
>Subaru will fuck anyone within his reach regardless of who he loves more

Except Subaru doesn't love Rem more. He never thinks about fucking Rem and Emilia in the first place. He's embarrassed about just kissing Emilia! Or even holding hands.
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>>157576843
>He never thinks about fucking Rem and Emilia in the first place.
I'm pretty sure he's fantasized about that all before, though he's even fantasized about Ram visiting him to attend to some "evening business". Which he said out loud, in front of everyone.
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>>157576768
Still looks fucking generic
Even Sims random character creation would be more original than this
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>>157576903
> though he's even fantasized about Ram visiting him to attend to some "evening business". Which he said out loud, in front of everyone.
Wait, wait, when did this happen?
What was their reaction?
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>>157576408
That's nice in fanficton land, but Rem was going end up that way regardless since had planned out Arc 3 long ago. Plus there little to no fans that SubxEmi romance either. Most just like Rem without external factors which is Japanese Remfags draw SubxEmi ship too.
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>>157576942
Arc 2. That's the scene where he was trying to guess what Ram's real job was, since she was such an inferior maid to her sister, and that's what he settled on.

I think the sisters reacted with the same kind of disgusted bantz that they had been doing the whole time.
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>>157577002
I guess he wasn't wrong, he just misinterpreted her level. She was an Ultra-Nightmare difficulty whore.
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>>157576792
>Subaru is hesitant about actually developing a closer relationship with Emilia
Only because of her immaturity and mental age, right? That's what makes the romance so distasteful and confusing. It's just hard to tell who Subaru's real love interest is because it seems that he just wants to fuck people left and right and often swings between being a husbando and being a legit asshole just in a split second.
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>>157577033
>That's what makes the romance so distasteful and confusing. It's just hard to tell who Subaru's real love interest is because it seems that he just wants to fuck people left and right
Holy shit, you really are retarded.
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>>157564162
finish the backstory first
>>157576408
ebin fanficiton bro
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>>157576965
>but Rem was going end up that way regardless since had planned out Arc 3 long ago
in coma maybe but she most likely wasn't planned to be a love interest

>Most just like Rem without external factors which is Japanese Remfags draw SubxEmi ship too.
a few artists drawing both ships doesn't mean anything, there're thousands of fans afterall
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>>157577060
Care to tell me who Subaru's love interest is?
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>>157577100
Both.
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>>157577106
So you're on board with the shitty love triangle that the author came up with?
Fuck off.
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Julius may be the "Greatest Knight", but Ferri is the Cutest and Kindest Knight.
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>>157577122
You are my love interest if thats of any consolation anon-kun~
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>>157577122
What will I do now knowing that if the author won't suck your dick, you won't like him or me anymore?
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>>157572269
The hair really is what most sets him apart from literally every other isekai / harem MC ever.
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>>157577141
Ferris is a cunt.
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>>157576593
So according to you he knew the Rem romance was better but decided to enforce Emilia anyway. Pretty bad writing desu
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>>157577141
When will we get "Saikyou no Kishi, Reinhardt van Astrea"?
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>>157577141
>Kindest
He isn't. Ferris is intended to be kind of a prick.
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>>157576938
>a character in a uniform looks generic
Wew, lad.
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>>157577204
>enforcing the Emilia romance
yeah from the beginning to the end. Why do you think Subaru's obsession with Emilia doesn't make much sense to so many people? Simply because the author is a biased bitch and thought that everyone will be as obsessed with her as he is
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>>157577198
>>157577243

No
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>>157577122
>being this much of a little bitch
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>>157577160
>What will I do now
Keep being a dick rider and praising his shit while enjoying your shit romance.
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>>157577267
Could be for plot reasons. Honda might literally be under a spell from Satella
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>>157577267
>>157577339
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>>157577204
the double romance past "from zero" was unnecessary. Subaru should have loved only one of the girls. Love only Emilia and don't give Rem hints after rejecting her, or love only Rem and save Emilia because Rem expects him to do that. Loving both is just bad writing and only so that both fanbases would keep reading and giving him money.
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>>157577361
>Subaru should have loved only one of the girls.
>should have
>bad writing
Who cares what you think, you pleb? Rem or Emilia won't wet your dick, fuck off.
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>>157577204
Well, since she has been associated with his main heroine delusions from the start, I guess Emilia romance will either end up as a "lie" that became "real" or a "lie" that Subaru rejects for "true love" with Rem or just simple polygamy end. So I'm very interested in what the answer will be at the end
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>>157577267
The logic is actually worse than that.
The idea is not that he was mistaken but rather that he knew Rem was the better one but instead of picking his best creation he decided to use underhanded tactics to shove his shitty elf down the readers' throat in a willfully wrong narrative choice
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>>157577344
I would be positively surprised if that would be the case. Or if the romance triangle would be resolved way before the last arc.
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>>157577387
>Who cares what you think, you pleb? Rem or Emilia won't wet your dick, fuck off.
>implying anyone likes the idea of him going for both girls
No anon, I'm not speaking just for myself
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>>157577415
>positively surprised
By a really generic and foreseeable plot point?
I'd rather Tappei tell us he was Flugel all this fucking time.
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>>157577167
Subru doesn't have harem
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>>157577440
You and two other waifuwar fags.
Be careful to jump off a bridge that isn't too tall, I don't want you to die, anon, you silly goose.
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>>157577361
>both fanbases would keep reading and giving him money.
according to you're shitty logic he should have write a harem story instead because more girls gives him more money,

also Tappei stated long time ago that he doesn't even care about the money, he still works in a butcher shop
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>>157577454
Nah. Subaru is going to fuck up his memories even worse, leave the tower, and find himself in the past. 18 years, to be precise.

Then he's going to call himself Aldebaran, and that's why Arc 7 is going to have Aldebaran as a major focus.
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>>157577387
Are Re:Zero fags usually this arrogant? Seriously chill out retards. Some people here just want to give some suggestions to improve the romance writing. Its not like they are shitting in your cereal or something.
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>>157577454
>By a really generic and foreseeable plot point?
either this or a really bad written SE romance many people won't be happy with, what's better?
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>>157577494
I'd read that.
>>157577506
>some suggestions to improve the romance writing
>"w-why won't my waifu win, Tappei? why must you be the author!"
>>157577515
>"MMMMUHHHH WAIFUUUUU"
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>But this time Beatrice does not do it, and instead she simply stares at Subaru's hand, hesitant.
>Subaru: “What's up? I do wash my hands after going to the bathroom.”
>Beatrice: “I wasn't worried about that, but now that thought's going to be in my head and it's
disgusting, in fact! No, it's something else...”

*faceplams at Subaru*
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>>157577484
what are you so triggered about? I've been in these threads for 5 months now and I've yes to see people praising Subaru for being a two-timer
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>>157577565
Ah, so my theories were indeed correct. You're actually autistic if you've been this way for at least 5 months.
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I want to gently hug Ferri
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>>157577541
>"w-why won't my waifu win, Tappei? why must you be the author!"
You done fucked it up anon. I actually want to have a no romance at all rather than the shitty one we're having now.
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>>157577637
>You done fucked it up anon.
Oeh sheit.
>I actually want to have a no romance...
I respect you, man.
>...at all rather than the shitty one we're having now.
No, ok, kill yourself.
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I kinda want Ferri to become Subaru's good friend
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>>157577541
Listen to yourself for once, anon. I'd rather have no romance at all or closure than what we have now
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>>157577637
IIRC he said that Re:Zero is about love
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Rem is a garbage waifubait.
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>>157577734
>no kids
>not married
>biased towards Emilia
yeah he must know what he's writing about
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>>157577779
Fuck I meant Emilia
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>>157577779
fuck off tryhard scriptkiddy
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>>157577725
No, I'm sure you guys want closure, closure with your preferred characters, and as fast as possible, so you can then cry that the romance sucks because the romance is going too fast, or fanboy over it like madmen since Tappei finally is writing your fanfiction for you.

Motivations or plot points don't matter to you as long as you can feel your dick getting wet.
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>>157577723
The obstacle is Ferri himself that hates people for stupid reasons
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>>157577846
>LOL, SUBARU YOU FUCKING IDIOT, OF COURSE ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO WAKE UP REM, WAKE UP YOURSELF YOU FAGGOT, HAH
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>>157577846
Wouldn't be the first to get over that
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>>157577793
Well the romance has been pretty bad so far so there's that.
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>>157577836
>Motivations or plot points don't matter to you as long as you can feel your dick getting wet.
did you ever think about that Subaru doesn't have to love Emilia/Rem in order to save them? It's not necessary for someone to be ion love to have the will to save someone, it's fucking bad writing
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>>157577887
But can he?
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>>157577959
>It's not necessary for someone to be ion love to have the will to save someone, it's fucking bad writing
I'm not sure we're on the same page anymore, anon-chan.
By the way, while I never said this, I'll still defend it since you're that fucking retarded.
Since when is it bad writing to give someone a higher motivation to do something? Only you think this way, anon-chan.
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>>157577560
>*faceplams at Subaru*
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>>157577959
>It's not necessary for someone to be ion love to have the will to save someone, it's fucking bad writing
He saves plenty of people he's not in love with, that was never an issue with this series.
Shit, what kind of argument is this? It's not necessary to "love" them so he shouldn't? Details man
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Ferri is a good and kind person, not a cunt like how some of you try to make him be.
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>>157578061
>Since when is it bad writing to give someone a higher motivation to do something? Only you think this way, anon-chan
Doing it with one girl is fine, doing it with both is just lazy/bad writing. It's as if Subaru wouldn't want to help Emilia/Rem if he wasn't in love with them
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>>157578061
>Subaru dying over and over just to save Emilia despite only having known her for some hours at most.
>good writing.
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>>157578088
>He saves plenty of people he's not in love with, that was never an issue with this series.
how much did the story focus on someone other than Emilia/Rem from the people he saved?
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>>157578123
>doing it with both is just lazy/bad writing
>"BECAUSE I SAY SO, ANON. IF I WERE THE AUTHOR, SUBARU WOULD FUCK WHO I SAY HE SHOULD"
>It's as if Subaru wouldn't want to help Emilia/Rem if he wasn't in love with them
>*record scratch*
>Rushes back at arc 3
>Subaru's strolling through a massacred mansion
>*looks at Ram and Petra on the floor*
>"Nah, fuck these people"
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You know who is a cunt? Roswaal.
You know who is not a cunt? Ferri.
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>>157578154
>"I have the power to come back from death."
>"This girl saved my life and she's a nice person, (I might also have some space aids from the witch that tell me to love her, but whatever)"
>"Fuck this elf."
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>>157578180
yeah cause Subaru would've totally try to save Ram/Petra as much as Emilia, right?
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>>157578238
>(I might also have some space aids from the witch that tell me to love her, but whatever)
Nice headcanon.
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>>157578244
He clearly left the villagers to their own devices, they made great meat shields, especially the children.
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>>157578238
>dying is totally not a big deal for me!
>let's save this half elf I've met 30mins ago so I can eat up her pussy afterwards!
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>>157575705
This desu

Just the whole "i love both " is worse than than "i can't choose one " drama , it feel like the author died on emilia from the very beginning thus killing other possibilities , than when Rem became much more poplar and the emelia romance turned out to be meh , that when he brought himself to the corner and had to pull the "he love both " BS so people won't drop the shit out of this , not just that they still spam Rem fan service all around
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>>157578270
>"might"
Anon, don't be an idiot.
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>>157578292
>"dying is totally not a big deal for me!"
And thus, Subaru died only once and vowed to never follow Emilia ever again.
Re:Zero, Arc 1 END.
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>>157578312
Then don't even mention it in your argument because it doesn't mean shit and will be ignored anyway.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13021744
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>>157578345
>Then don't
No, I could literally point out all possibilities since we don't know anything about the situation and they'd fit there just fine, mongoloid.
>>157578299
>Just the whole "i love both " is worse
>"WHY WON'T THIS AUTHOR FIT MY TASTES SPECIFICALLY"
> than when Rem became much more poplar and the emelia romance turned out to be meh
Yet he planned these arcs before she got popular. I think everyone's getting tired of this "Tappei's a 4d chess meister" meme already.
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>>157578344
>arc 1: I love dying! It's totally worth it if it's for this qt half elf!
>arc 3: Oh man, I spend so much time with qt elf and now I'm in love with her but dying sucks so fuck her!

>Rem dies, nah man I can't kill myself to save her
>falls for Rem, time to stab my throat because now I love her and have reasons to save her!
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>>157578439
Are these somehow an argument for something you've mentioned previously?
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>>157578405
>REEEEEEE stop shitting on the author! the romance is great and people love it! Please stop shitting on it!
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>>157578523
A pathetic excuse of a strawman.
You can't see further than your waifus.
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>>157578405
>Oh I'm about to get my character to do tons of important shit in this arc. But I'm pretty sure she wouldn't get popular and people wouldn't somehow begin to like her romance.
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>>157578551
Because shit like >>157578405 is totally not a strawman instead
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>>157578551
do you know what is gonna happen next romance wise? the same shitty and lazy pattern the author has been using until now
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Ferri is still not a cunt
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>>157576843
Only gay won't think about that + plus he had Dreams about Ram when she told him wait for me at your room at the late nigh
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>Promises to save Emilia because he loves her
>Promises to save Rem because he loves her
>Promises to save Satella because he loves her
>it's not lazy writing! People don't try to save someone unless they are in love!
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>>157578577
Tappei can see into the future, people.
How many times have authors told that to themselves and got shat on, anon? Marketing isn't foolproof, meaning he couldn't have possibly known the reactions would have been what they were, and we know he planned the arcs beforehand.
>>157578583
None of you can mention why somehow, "two timing" or the endless plethora of possible reasons for why Subaru acts this way are "bad writing" except "I don't like this." or "My group doesn't like it.".

Tappei also didn't plan to bamboozle anyone.
>>157578599
Which is? From what I can see, nothing's happening because Rem is still a potato and Subaru's having his own issues.
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>>157578708
>keeps on going with this forced meme
He's been saving everyone and not accepting any deaths in his close knit group since arc 2.
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You can see two cunts outside the window
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>>157578713
In the commentary Tappei explicitly said that he expected Rem would have become a fan favorite
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>>157578794
No he didn't.
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>>157578708
>it's not lazy writing! People don't try to save someone unless they are in love!
Where is this coming from? He has saved people he didn't love in Arc 1
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>>157578787
Why doesn't the story focus on saving someone Subaru, isn't in love with?
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Is there a site where you can read translated LNs or do I have to learn japanese?
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>>157578877
YenPress.com
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>>157578641
Ferri is a dick
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>>157578708
Wow "loves" is surely overused in this series, isn't it? It cheapens the romance as a whole honestly.
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>>157578843
>Where is this coming from? He has saved people he didn't love in Arc 1
So you think he'd have saved Felt if Emilia wasn't in danger in the same place? yeah buddy, sure.
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>>157578843
But Felt and Rom aren't people, they're criminals.
>>157578864
Why should the story focus on that? We always focus on the main characters, you retard. Otherwise they're not main characters.
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>>157578864
Well, who's the person someone would want to save the most? Excluding family.
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>>157578952
T-The person they're in love with or are friends with, anon?
D-do I get a cookie?
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>>157578794
He never said that
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>>157578790
Tracksuit bros.
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>>157578790
And one trying to snatch Megumin.
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>>157578831
Yes he did
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>>157577541
>I'd read that.
Nips are actually speculating about Aldebaran in the Re:Zero thread right now, wondering if the tower has anything to do with why he's an amnesiac. Even people wondering if his power is a reduced form of RbD.

Of course, they've been having crack theories about Aldebaran being future Subaru since Al was introduced, and that was before they knew he was isekai'd. Apparently their mannerisms are just that similar.
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>>157578831
Pretty sure he did, but he didn't expect her to be as popular as she is now.
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>>157579038
There are so many theories right now, but with how the IF stories work, it's not impossible that there are multiple Subaru's around in several forms by now.

I can't wait to see how this ends.
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>>157578952
Da hell dude ? you can always care enough to save a true friend or someone you love
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>>157578976
Here's your cake cause I want to post this
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>>157578933
>Why should the story focus on that? We always focus on the main characters, you retard.
The focus would still be on Subaru, like always. The person he saves doesn't have to be a romantic interest but the author doesn't seem to know that. How do you not get that?
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>>157579138
Why should he focus on other characters? It's not a necessity. It's just you sperging for that.
And unlike what you think, Subaru isn't the only main character.
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>>157579090
>but with how the IF stories work, it's not impossible that there are multiple Subaru's around in several forms by now
?
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>>157579180
I'm saying it's a possibility, so it's my headcanon, but if you consider that there's time fuckery involved (you don't even need to include Echidna's theories), characters like Puck, Flugel and Aldebaran could be Subaru in one form or another.
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>>157579215
How do the IF stories work?
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>>157579180
The guy is stupid and loves leaving incredibly misleading statements (that sound like he knows what the fuck he's taking about) lying there without ever supplementing them when it turns out it was just misinterpretation, overinflated, or headcanon
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>>157579176
>The focus would still be on Subaru, like always.
>Why should he focus on other characters?
reading comprehension isn't your thing huh?
Right now Subaru focuses on saving Rem and the story makes it look like that he only does that because he loves her and as if he wouldn't do it if she was just a friend. It was the same deal with Emilia in arc 3.
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>>157576408
Would be true if the show was anime original. No Remfags were mad when the Web novel chapter was released cause they describe his inner thoughts.
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>>157579280
"What ifs" most literally. That's really what I meant. They're different roads for Subaru that drastically change the other character's situations.
>>157579295
No, it's clear my reading comprehension is faulty right now, because I see you repeating yourself on a matter that you still think you have a leg to stand on, maybe I'm just wrong.
>Right now Subaru focuses on saving Rem and the story makes it look like that he only does that because he loves her
No, he's being so obsessive about it because he loves her, so this...
Does not exclude this:
>and as if he wouldn't do it if she was just a friend.
While this:
>It was the same deal with Emilia in arc 3.
Is an important plot point because he wanted to give up.
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>>157578655
And yes he was spazzing out about a girl coming to his room. Let's not forget he could barely concentrate on his work when came to Emilia help him study in Arc 2. Dude is no Casanova or gigolo anon. Honestly, he's very innocent in this area himself.
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>no focus on saving someone he doesn't love
Has everyone forgotten
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>>157579534
That can't possibly be it, anon. He clearly said he wants to fuck everyone in the mansion, he almost made Roswaal choke on his weenie too.
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>>157579355
did his inner thought say that he loves Rem too? I'm pretty sure nothing in "from zero" implied that he had feelings for Rem
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>>157578790
>Aqua NTRs Emilia and Rem from Subaru.

Didn't even know I wanted this until now
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>>157579379
I want the IF stories to stay non canon.
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>>157579537
>implying he doesn't love Beako
>>157579574
This is bait.
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>>157579537
was there an arc about saving betty?
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>>157579587
Why? It would be a lot more interesting if it's like the Nasuverse.
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>>157579355
>No Remfags were mad
Exactly how the author could get away with his shit and make Remfags willing to suck his cock in return for letting Rem be relevant in his shit romance.
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>>157579591
Clearly not the kind of love these anons are bitching about
>>157579600
There was a big part of Arc 4 dedicated to it, yes.
If you want focus for an entire arc no shit it will be main characters
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>>157579626
>"everything points out to my headcanon!"
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>>157579623
Because the haremgarbage should stay buried.
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>Subaru: “I don't mind being with her all hours of the day, but that defeats the point of leaving the Archive. If she's making memories, then the pages of her photo album ought to have as many people in them as possible.”

>Since she has to compensate for four centuries of blank pages.

>If Subaru consumes all of the space in her album, it's going to get samey quick.

>Her memories need to be full of lots of people and lots of faces. Subaru believes it best to stand at her side as she clicks the shutter, sometimes slipping into the frame.


>Emilia: “Subaru... sometimes you are sooo cool.”

>Subaru: “Huh, what, seriously? What happened, what RNG was that!?”

>Emilia: “It really is only sometimes though.”

Backhand complimenting Subaru is an Emilia Camp hobby. Poor guy.
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>>157579670
Anon, let me in, Anon, I'm canon.
Don't you believe in Aldebaran being Subaru?
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>>157579643
>If you want focus for an entire arc no shit it will be main characters
Rem is no main character and she gets more focus than Betty
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>>157579706
Aldebaran can be Subaru and the IF stories can stay non canon.
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>>157579748
Will you forsake your Dark Lord, you bastard?
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>>157579718
>Rem is no main character
Oh you
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>>157579718
>Rem is no main character
Well if you think so.
I guess you could somehow conceivably argue that noone's main besides Subaru so whatever
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>Why doesn't he just stick to Emilia
Because Emilia is his fetish in idealised form
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>>157579846
She's disappeared for two (or even three) straight arcs and shown no sign of coming back anytime soon. How is she supposed to be a main character?
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>>157579948
>shown no sign of coming back anytime soon
They're in a special tower with memory shit going on. Do you really think the whole Arc is going to end on an anticlimax?
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>Arc where the focus isn't on saving Emilia and Rem
Isn't that just Arc 5? I know Emilia gets kidnapped at one point but I doubt it's the focus
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>>157579948
>>
I don't understand how it's possible to keep arguing over pointless shit like Emilia and Rem forever
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>>157580166
People are arguing over the author's shit writing this time around.
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>>157580166
And just to explain, what >>157580201
means is basically "shit I personally don't like".
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>>157580258
To be fair any discussion on the quality of a creative work will inevitably touch whether its audience did appreciate it
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>>157580258
>implying anyone here enjoys the romance how it is
>implying the author doesn't drag out the romance on purpose
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>>157580332
It's not as if there are really no reasons to shit on a plot point like this.
>>157580358
Yes and yes. I don't need immediate closure and I don't follow any camp, I want to see what Subaru is doing.
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>>157580358
>implying the author doesn't drag out the romance on purpose
I'm interested in what he's building up to since Rem vs Emilia has thematic relevance in the series regarding what a true relationship actually is
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>>157580404
>I don't need immediate closure
I don't need that either, but I do want it to be good and not tedious and annoying for dumb reasons.
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>>157579537
Seriously subaru would go out of his way to save everyone and would die for any of his friends because that what his power exiset for
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>>157580471
AKA reasons you don't like.
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>>157580493
It's bad if almost nobody likes it
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>>157580493
>AKA reasons nobody likes.
If you think the romance is fine then you seriously have problems in your taste anon.
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>>157580455
>I'm interested in what he's building up to since Rem vs Emilia has thematic relevance in the series regarding what a true relationship actually is
It has no thematic relevance, it's just pandering to the fans. Both relationship will maintain until the very end and then one of them will die or rejected, most likely Rem since she has no main character plot armor and the author is a biased Emiliafag. There'll be no explanation on why Subaru is so obsessed with Emilia and no justification for why Emilia should win cause she doesn't.
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>>157575249
I'm not exactly a fan of that illustrator. Everything looks so flat.
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>>157580522
>>157580562
>it's bad because ad populum
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>>157580583
>rejected
That's what I want, which one he rejects is the answer to what the story actually considered the better form of love.
It's not like being in love was pointless. Both Rem and Emilia have developed because of the effort Subaru put into them and vice versa
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What is the purpose of fighting when Satella is going to win
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>>157580652 c >>157580332
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>>157580606
I think that particular image is just very poorly composed. It's trying to cram too much in there, and not in a way that works.

As I've said before, Emilia being there just distracts from where the focus should be in that scene.
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>>157580583
>There'll be no explanation on why Subaru is so obsessed with Emilia and no justification for why Emilia should win cause she doesn't.
>somehow people's feelings need to have some conscious motivation
>>157580751
The opposite of this is "Anything popular is a masterpiece.".
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>>157580823
>where the focus should be in that scene.
Subaru's anguish?
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>>157580652
>there are people actually being okay with this shitty love triangle romance.
This is why we can't have nice things.
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>>157580937 see >>157575845
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>>157580852
>somehow people's feelings need to have some conscious motivation
This is fucking fiction you dumb fuck. The audience is supposed to relate to that shit and be able to understand why something is like it is. When most people prefer the Rem romance over the Emilia romance then it probably has some good reasons.
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>>157580823
It's not just this image, though, it's this illustrator in general. The way he draws some things just seems incredibly lazy. Look at the eyebrows for example. They are always thin lines (with the exception of Frederica). Even with stylisation in mind, there is no excuse for this, it's just lazy drawing. Then there's his incredibly lazy shading which takes away a lot of depth from the illustrations. He's using digital art so he should have even more of an easy time adding depth than traditional artists.
Mind you, I'm not trying to shit on him, I just think it falls flat considering my personal preferences. I'm a fan of somewhat realistic illustrations.
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>>157580971
>Maybe...
Doesn't sound convincing desu.
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>>157580880
Yes. But his anguish over Rem. Rem gets too little focus in the picture, while Emilia is practically glowing with wispy sparkles around her.
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>>157581070
You sound like someone who thinks they know what they're talking about but doesn't
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>>157580823
It's on point with the romance though.
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>>157581148
It's just that I can't completely put my finger on it, but at least I'm trying. Something about his illustrations just irk me and makes me think of them as "flat". I guess in the end it just comes down to personal taste.
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>>157581029
>This is fucking fiction you dumb fuck.
That doesn't mean you need to be spoonfed to this level. You're clearly told who they want to fuck and you then think of all that plot that has been thrown at you and try to understand why exactly that faggot MC picked that girl.
>The audience is supposed to relate
No, the audience doesn't have to relate to anything written there, you can read a story and be completely detached from it.
> and be able to understand why something is like it is.
I'm sorry, but we usually don't go into details like "The characters are talking Japanese." because you're too autistic to notice by yourself.
>When most people prefer the Rem romance over the Emilia romance then it probably has some good reasons.
Like, wish fulfillment?
>>157581123
Fuck off, ESL. What you're proving now is that you're too impatient and are judging the plot based on missing information that you'll be given later.
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>>157581123
You want him to pretend he's Tappei?
>>157581275
>ESL
I'm pretty sure he's not
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>>157581275
with
>this is fiction
I meant that there's a guy writing this stuff. He wrote the Emilia romance AND the Rem romance. He's responsible for what the audience want and how they feel about certain plot points. Subaru doesn't exist and his feelings are not real, they are manufactured by a jap single man. Your logic about how "somehow people's feelings need to have some conscious motivation" doesn't make ANY sense here and is just a retarded excuse for why your waifu should win. How about you try to argue why one girl is better suited for the MC than the other like we're supposed to?

>like wishfulfillment
yeah why do you think it came to this in first place? Do you think the author would write all that shit so nobody would care about it?
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>>157581275
>What you're proving now is that you're too impatient and are judging the plot based on missing information that you'll be given later.
No what I've been saying is that the romance has been trash so far due to how annoying, unjustified, confusing, and boring it is. Not saying that it can't be improved so who knows, but hey my point is that it's pretty bad now and I'm concerned by it because I thought it could have been something amazing.
>>157581327
Anyone that calls the author out on his incompetence and criticizes him is automatically ESL, don't you know?
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So the claim of bad writing is only contrasted by
>you're complaining because your waifu isn't winning
which is a strawman
and
>y-you can't prove it's bad writing because judgement of quality isn't judgement of quality
which is utter rubbish

you could at least use better argument like
>it's clear that there is a longer play here
but noo, emiliafags are too stupid to make an actually valid point
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>>157581712
>it's clear that there is a longer play here
is it clear though? pretty sure that "longer game" is just baiting the audience to keep reading the story instead of actually something important
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>>157581632
>Anyone that calls the author out on his incompetence and criticizes him is automatically ESL, don't you know?
ESL is the one screaming every time "Tappei dont care about you think" though
Also I wouldn't mind this argument nearly as much if it wasn't for the "Tappei 4D chess" shit that should have died long ago
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>>157581632
So the romance isn't all that great. Most of the relationships in the story are hard to understand and just leave you kind of confused. Why does Person A love Person B so much? Who the fuck knows.

But ignoring the romance for now, what parts of the story do you actually like?
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>>157581712
You can't fully criticize the writing either way because you can't read Japanese, and all you have to work with are fan translations. As for that longer play argument you brought up, whether that is good or bad depends on where and how it concludes, which we don't know yet.It could either be Tappei baiting the audience in to keep reading, like >>157581780 mentioned, or it could be something important that he has planned out well in advance.
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>>157581820
>"Tappei 4D chess"
I learned a long time ago that 4D chess doesn't exist, though sometimes authors and fans pretend it does. Expecting there to be any such chess game is setting yourself up for disappointment.
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>>157581575
>He's responsible for what the audience want and how they feel about certain plot points
He's not actually responsible for anything of the sorts. How the audience feels depends on them, not on him.
>Subaru doesn't exist and his feelings are not real, they are manufactured by a jap single man
But Subaru does follow some rules, maybe they're our same ones, meaning that "justifications" are aplenty if that's the case, even now.
>doesn't make ANY sense here and is just a retarded excuse for why your waifu should win.
If he picks Emilia, he loves her, so he picked her because of her looks and personality.
If he picks Rem, he loves her, so he picked her because of her looks and personality.
If he picks Petra, he loves her...
>How about you try to argue why one girl is better suited for the MC than the other like we're supposed to?
Because Subaru (Tappei chose it for him) is attracted to that girl because of her psychological and physical traits.
Do you also fall in love with what is deemed "the best" or is it that you have your own tastes, my dude?
>>157581632
>No what I've been saying is that the romance has been trash so far due to how annoying, unjustified, confusing, and boring it is.
"Love" is a rather simple matter, anon. We get attracted physically to someone else, then we drool over them and after that, we tend to finalize staying with these people based on personality.

You can't go more, "boring" and "confusing" than this. The "justification" is that the character sees the person as a proper mate. The "annoyance" surely stems from you wanting something that isn't written there, but that is indeed "unjustified".
>>157581712
>which is a strawman
Almost everyone here mentioned how Rem is a "better choice".
>which is utter rubbish
You first have to prove your "judgement of quality" has anything to do with objectivity, which you cannot do.
>but noo, emiliafags are too stupid to make an actually valid point
>emiliafags
I'm in no camp.
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>>157581878
>You can't fully criticize the writing either way because you can't read Japanese, and all you have to work with are fan translations.
Until now I assumed that when people is commenting writing they meant narrative choices rather than grammar and lexical quality
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>>157581863
>what parts of the story do you actually like?
Everything else asides from the romance, like fantasy, psychological (again as long as it's not romance involved) aspects, etc.
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>>157582093
Prosaic quality fits under the umbrella term of "writing" as well. There's also the danger of things getting lost in translations, which happens to professional translators as well as hobbyists. So arguably, some of the finer nuances of the narrative get lost due to the language barrier.
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>>157581863
Everything except how slow he's updating and how slow we're getting Anime sequels.
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>>157582045
>We get attracted physically to someone else, then we drool over them and after that, we tend to finalize staying with these people based on personality.
Pretty sure it doesn't work that way in this series though, hence why it doesn't make sense and makes everything very unsatisfying and ambiguous.
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>>157582162
I feel like anime sequels would just slow down updates further
I get what you mean though
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>>157582240
Pretty sure it does, this wasn't finalized either, you idiot. He's not at the last stages.
What we prefer in our mates depends on us and it's not conscious.

If he picks any of them, he preferred to stay with them instead of the others, it's that easy and that's all the justification you should need.
But of course, if "your waifu" wasn't "chosen", Subaru AKA Tappei clearly has shit taste in romance.
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>>157581863
I love how the story structure doesn't give a fuck. Every arc feels different and is a ride in itself after Arc 2. That includes putting focus on side characters sometimes which leads to named chapters and an arclong battle royale.
And the speeches and other emotional climaxes.
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>>157582045
>He's not actually responsible for anything of the sorts. How the audience feels depends on them, not on him.
Are you serious? He even said in an interview that an characters popularity is a direct factor for how high the waves are. Rem got better scenes because she got so popular. He plans and writes the story and knows what the audience likes and what isn't that great about it. If he knows that Rem is popular and keeps feeding us Rem scenes which are so liked then how the fuck is he not responsible for people liking her so much?

>But Subaru does follow some rules, maybe they're our same ones, meaning that "justifications" are aplenty if that's the case, even now.
What rules does he follow? He fell for Rem for other reasons than he did for Emilia according to the story. There no rules, nothing gets explained properly.

>If he picks Emilia, he loves her, so he picked her because of her looks and personality.
>If he picks Rem, he loves her, so he picked her because of her looks and personality.
Again, this is fiction and Subaru is not real. He has no real tastes or whatever. He didn't fall for Rem for her looks and he didn't fall for Emilia for her personality.

>Because Subaru (Tappei chose it for him) is attracted to that girl because of her psychological and physical traits.
Do you also fall in love with what is deemed "the best" or is it that you have your own tastes, my dude?
Yeah, now you agree that Tappei is responsible for that mess? They are not real, Emilia will not be sad if she loses. rem will not be sad if she loses, the audience are the only people who will feel anything since they're attached to the characters.
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>>157582334
Dude Subaru isn't a real person
None of them are real people
Fiction rules work differently and shit feels like a crapshoot if the reader doesn't get a comprehensible reason for why things happen, even if those things do happen for no obvious or sensible reason in reality
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>>157582495
>Are you serious? He even said in an interview that an characters popularity is a direct factor for how high the waves are.
>He even said
???
The Earth is flat, anon. Tappei said so.
So he's taking responsibility for something that isn't his responsibility and I should accept that because he says so?
>If he knows that Rem is popular and keeps feeding us Rem scenes which are so liked then how the fuck is he not responsible for people liking her so much?
Because even if he's writing Rem, that doesn't mean you ought to like Rem?
I'm not sure you get it, anon, but no one is responsible for what you feel, only yourself.
>What rules does he follow?
Real life rules.
>He fell for Rem for other reasons than he did for Emilia according to the story.
Yes, and?
>There no rules, nothing gets explained properly.
I guess you've only had one relationship until now and it's still standing.
>Again, this is fiction and Subaru is not real.
That doesn't matter, Tappei is rather real and he didn't say that Subaru is somehow not human and does not follow conventional human rules. From what I remember, he's the most average human being you can get, except the meme part of his.
>He has no real tastes or whatever.
He does, they're the ones Tappei wrote for him. Are you retarded, anon?
>He didn't fall for Rem for her looks and he didn't fall for Emilia for her personality.
This is your headcanon, both of those are important.
>Yeah, now you agree that Tappei is responsible for that mess?
No, you really are retarded, I'm sorry for having asked beforehand. I'm sorry for not having mentioned that Tappei wrote Subaru, just like Tappei forgot to mention he's writing in Japanese and that heterosexual relationships are between a man and a woman.
>>157582509
>Dude Subaru isn't a real person
They follow the same rules, only that they're on paper.
>Fiction rules work differently
No, they don't, unless stated otherwise.
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>>157582495
cont from >>157582826
>They are not real, Emilia will not be sad if she loses.
>rem will not be sad if she loses
If Tappei wishes for them to be (and he should if he knew how someone being rejected feels), it will happen.
>the audience are the only people who will feel anything since they're attached to the characters.
Oh right, I'm sorry, I really meant to say that Subaru is actually a representation of someone falling in love with representations of fictional beings like elves and onis and that Subaru as a representation, follows the rules of those representations as much as it is possible for him to do so, e.g. he can never be "alive".

Did you know that we assume "reality" exists so we don't waste our time arguing something endless?
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>>157582334
>this wasn't finalized either
You don't need to wait until it's done to judge its quality. That's why I said this here:
>Not saying that it can't be improved so who knows, but hey my point is that it's pretty bad now
The way the romance is processing already doesn't make any sense to begin with, so it sucks at the moment. Again it can be improved and become good later, but as of now it just sucks.
>it's that easy and that's all the justification you should need.
That's not the justification I'm talking about here. The justification I mean is the things that can get my attention and make me care about and enjoy the love triangle. But right now the romance is just dumb, silly, unnecessarily long and can develop in a much better way than it does now. And why does it matter if the romance is shorter and concluded faster? Wouldn't it be actually a good thing because the romance would be less tedious, repetitive and not drag on?
>if "your waifu" wasn't "chosen"
Anon I don't care if Emilia or Rem wins. As I said it, I just want the romance to become better than it is now. The author can do whatever he wants with it for all I care, but I just hope it'll be more enjoyable and believable.
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>>157582120
Personally, I tend to like a bit of mystery. Things to be introduced, explored to develop a greater understanding, and perhaps resolved. Not just in the plot, but in the characters and their interactions. Usually the plot and the characters are one and the same, anyways.

The rabbits were never an important obstacle in Arc 4. They were just an arbitrary timelimit to be disposed of once the real issues, Garfiel, Emilia, Roswaal, and Betty, were handled. Elsa and Meili aren't really important to Arc 4 either. They're just an external force which makes handling the internal issues, the ones that really matter, more pressing.

The worldbuilding can be nice, and it's interesting to learn more about the history of the world, but I like to see how interactions between the relevant characters will shape events. In the latest Arc, I'm not really expecting much from Shaula or Reid, but I'm really looking forward to Ram and Julius's development here.
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>>157582959
>You don't need to wait until it's done to judge its quality.
>You don't need to have 4 wheels or an engine on this car to know if it's a car or if it functions
>The way the romance is processing already doesn't make any sense to begin with
How doesn't it make any sense? I've already told you how it does.
>That's not the justification I'm talking about here. The justification I mean is the things that can get my attention and make me care about and enjoy the love triangle.
So basically, your tastes dictate quality? Why are you talking to us about it as if it's fact then, retardo?
>Wouldn't it be actually a good thing because the romance would be less tedious, repetitive and not drag on?
No, because that's not necessary.
>As I said it, I just want the romance to become better than it is now.
What you want is the author to write a fanfiction for you specifically. Thank god he doesn't want to do that.
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>>157582826
>>157582954
Yeah anon, you're completely right! Subaru has totally a realistic love life with how he loves two girls for different reasons. That totally happens in real life all the time, right? We're not supposed to feel anything for the characters and debate on who should win even though they are purposely written in two different styles and are even "equal" for Subaru so we can choose a favorite, right? After all it isn't supposed to make any sense because in reality it also doesn't make any sense but the fact that it's fiction is irrelevant, right? People read fiction because they can't get enough of reality, especially since anime is the most realistic medium of all!
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>>157583062
>How doesn't it make any sense?
Anon we've discussed how Subaru's "I love both girls," "I will make you mine," "there is a girl who also seems to be my true lov