Blame!

I think we don't need a Blame general.

>>157462239
7/10

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>>157462239

6-7/10 standalone cyber-western

Lack of silicon beings and not enough Sanakan to feel like a genuine condensed BLAME experience though, hopefully netjew fags like it enough to warrant more volumes

>>157462364
It just came out. Shut up

>>157462239
I have no idea about what is the setting, nor who are the characters.
Will i be lost by starting with the netflix movie?

Is it a faithful adaption of the manga? Should I read the manga

>>157462304
No, you did not

>>157462483
Dystopian industrial horror where humanity is scattered and the environment is hostile is the setting, there are no characters.

>>157462443
pretty much this

world felt too populated for me. the art wasn't a good representation of the manga's style (if they even tried -- doesn't look like they did). not really recognizable as BLAME.

as a stand alone piece of entertainment, it was a solid 6.5/10 but probably could have been better.

>>157462530
I knew I hated it. I wanted sum cyborgs.

>>157462493
>>157462483
It's a particular arc (like 5-8 chapters iirc) adapted with a lot of western flair, but relatively faithful

It's like a CGI Vampire Hunter D movie but with robots instead of vampires if you watch it by itself

>>157462493
no, yes but good luck manga is like mad man's murder book

Wait. So killy kun was a demon all along?

>>157462493
It's not an adaptation of the manga.

The manga achieves a unique tone with its art and sparse storytelling style. It does a good job at worldbuilding (heh) and making you interested.

There's an older anime series that does a better job of capturing the weird technological desolation and loneliness of the manga,

It was alright.

I thought it was kinda bad. Withdrawing the scope of the manga made it feel like I wasn't even watching something set in the same world from time to time, and the characters were generally pretty shittily put together so the movie didn't even work within it's smaller scale.

I don't give a shit about all these villagers, I want to see Killy exploring the city.

>>157462721
>There's an older anime series that does a better job of capturing the weird technological desolation and loneliness of the manga,
and it is?

>>157462605
Character stuff is based on Nihei's more recent style but not just imitating SIdonia where everyone still looks like (admittedly moe) potatoes

The ARCHITECTURE shots were plenty, though, and Cibo a tall glass of ration juice

>>157462788
Blame

>>157462788
The three minute shorts collection

You don't seriously think it would have a different name do you

>>157462855
>>157462872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZWf2_2L2v8
this is 3 minutes and has blame
is this it?

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>>157462935

Post pictures of Cibo she is still best waifu nihei ever drew

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>>157462442

It's Machine Code

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Wished it wasn't as self contained as it ended up being. A few parts that didn't connect to the immediate story may have made the setting seem more expansive. Other than that, good effort to let both fans and newcomers have a glimpse into the City. Liked the POV switch to the electric fishermen, as it made the story more accessible and set up Killy as a force of nature passing through. Sanakan and Cibo a cute. Both of them had great scenes and presence. Pity they didn't include the builder sized safeguard in the fight and I didn't like that Cibo didn't stick with Killy at the end, the latter of which kinda fucks with setting up a proper sequel.

Overall good effort with some nitpicks.

>>157463044
Neat, thanks. I was looking for something shorter and ran into Blame! Prologue, and it was some shitty cgi art project

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>>157463108
That is factually incorrect.

I always thought those ration sticks looked and tasted like white chocolate kitkats, but now theyre more like canned bread?

>>157463108
Sanakan is far better.

Those who hadn't read the manga or watched the old OVAs beforehand, did you like it?

>>157463221
Makes more sense. I mean, it's suppose to be rations, not a delicacy.

>>157462239
>pissed looking killy
>color
One image and I can tell it's shit.

>>157463188
>>157463241

None of these sluts have as much variation in their bodystyles as Cibo does

but is killy a cyborg too?

>>157462239
it was better than I thought it would be. Killy was retardedly inhuman. Not enough sexy scenery though, that was a high point from the Manga. I'd watch a series if they made it.

>>157463152
I guess they will film the other arcs if this gains some popularity

>>157462493
>Is it a faithful adaption of the manga?

I will never understand why people give a shit about this, especially when they haven't read it in the first place.

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>>157463330
safeguard

>>157463330
He's a human who has robotic enhancements that are prototypal of Safeguard designs. He's lived for many thousands of years.

>>157463409
I rather they didn't. Not saying it wasn't good, but reading the manga gives a far more unique experience than what an anime can give us.

>>157463305
Youre such a fag.

>>157463450
He's pre-safeguard and he can choose to save silicon life if he wants to.

>>157463454
>He's a human who has robotic enhancements
So...a cyborg.

so what did cyborgs gain bu fucking over humans? now safeguards attack both humans and cyborgs

>>157463527
Yes. I gave you a specific answer because people who haven't read all of the material will tell you that he's a Safeguard.

>>157463565
Thanks brah

>>157463274
I thought it was interesting. I thought the red shirts were the main characters, and found them all pretty boring.

The fights were cool, but they failed to properly convey a sense of hopelessness which I think the whole thing lacked.

Not bad

>>157462239
Tae was a very strong character. She carried the entire movie.

>>157463548
Did you not watch the movie?

It was clearly stated that there was a glitch in their system that caused them to kill all humabs with out the whatever gene, and only people with that gene can change their programming

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>>157463759

>>157463759
Was tae the one with 3 lines of dialogue that died? Or the one with 6 lines of dialogue that was killed?

>>157463834
She was the one with the highest kill count.

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What was the neck brace he gave her at the end?

>>157463776
There was no glitch. The humans got infected and Safeguards couldn't read their Net Terminal Gene.

>>157463886
It's the movie's reason for why the things didn't attack Killy. Since he's given it to them, they can build a safe settlement now.

>>157463864
The robot lady?

>>157463834
The one that kept falling every time they had to run away.

>>157463886
Stops watchtower from seeing you. He do t really need it anyway.

>>157463466
I never understood that stance, especially with a decent effort like here. An adaption won't invalidate your enjoyment of the source, nor will it make the source disappear. As seen here. It's a different take on the whole fishermen arc, but I thought the portrayal being a powerless little tribe in the City was a cool take on the story, especially the opening sequence was full of tension, as they tried to find some food, while trying to avoid the watchtower. It was a nifty new perspective.

>>157463917
Not correct. Maybe correct in the movie's canon or something, but not actually correct.

Whats with the robo parts on cibo

for most of the manga she was fleshy/soft synthetic, except for the end

but her regular bodies never had clankity clank parts like in the movie

>>157463930
yep cylon infiltrator

>>157462239
Why is the animation so fucking choppy? does it actually look smooth through squinty nip eyes or something. The animation is alright but the choppiness is so distracting

>>157464054
They prefer it that way, and pay people to remove the additional frames.

>>157463917
>couldn't read their Net Terminal Gene
More like the contagion got rid of the gene. The human survivors lack the gene.

>>157464028
in the movie she was a cybernetic human

>>157464054
The movie budget would have cost 4 time as much for 60 fps

>>157463987
Because the manga is all about the atmosphere and scenery porn. The anime just feels too shounen-like to get the right feel of it. It's a good attempt, but it's just not getting the same feel one would get when he read the manga and realize Killy had walked for more than a few thousand years across the solar system.

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>>157464118

Why did the elctric fish need to wear masks to hide their faces?

>oh shit nigga there is no human with NTG who will give our orders now. Killy, go find us one
>ok boss

>>157464054
24 FPS is a meme that needs to die.

>>157464138
Movie Cibo was just hanging out in the ruins for 2000+ years.

>>157464176
To appear robotic and fool the watchtowers.

>>157464260
at least she suffers in both manga and the movie

>>157464235
>*SpongeBob narrator voice*
3000 years later

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THIS ROTTEN CORPSE CAN'T BE THIS CUTE!!

>>157462239
I think it's a decent introduction to the mad trip that the source is.

>>157464054
>>157464118
>>157464175

It would actually look worse at 60. It would make it much more obvious that the models don't have any sense of squash and stretch.

is there a waifu material in this series? The drawing looks Hajime Isayama level of shit

The GBE was pretty underwhelming

Remember that part in the manga where killy blew a hole in the megastructure above and then hollowed out the tower he was standing on with his GBE? First time reading I nearly pissed myself

The holes he blew in the movie where pathetically small even when he shot a level 2 shot

>>157464406
>squash and stretch.
Aren't those animation principles only apply to 2D?

The feel of the movie didnt match the manga's 90s cyberpunk feel.

Killy was also off the deepend of the aspergers scale.

That being said it wasnt too bad, would watch a sequel

why did they have to use cgi? cheaper?

>>157464175
Does bububki buranki or ID-0 do this? They looked fine and if they were removing frames it wasn't noticeable

>>157464138
And you can still get that feeling from the manga. An anime adaption has different advantages. The story and setting are good enough to carry interpretations across different media, all imo of course. If it were done as a tv series, they could even dedicate an episode to one of Killy's walkathons to portray the magnitude and isolation of his journey. There's enough of a possibility that an adaption would bring something interesting to the table, in order to not warrant the denial of an adaption from the getgo.

But hey, neither of us is likely to make that decision, so lets just lean back and see.

What was the stuff Killy injected himself with?

>>157464430
but it is more accurate. for beam to create a 70 km hole, its spread must be minimal. So the initial hole will be smaller

>>157464430
Yeah I though so too. I also thought the beam should have been a different color, maybe white with red edges, and with more knock back.

>>157464054
3s not 2s.

>>157464553
Every 3DCG studio does this.

>>157464582
food/energy

>>157464582
Some energy shit to fill his power bars. I don't remember him doing that in the manga, but it's been years since I read my books.

>>157462239
I have to agree with >>157462381: 7/10. I wish the music had been more inspired, in particular.

>>157464406
They should make 24-30 with some motion blur.

>>157464175
>>157464245
It looks about 15 fps, I've seen student stomp motion animation that looks less jumpy

>>157464175
reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U76MBDKQe8s&feature=youtu.be&t=9m46s

guys do you realize this is made with celshading, it would look awkward with 60 fps

>>157462443
>western
Explain this meme.

compare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDA1bUkotIk

>>157464448

It can be done in 3D as well, it just takes way more time and effort. Models have to be rigged completely around it, and with anime being all about the quick turn around it's not something you really see being pushed much overseas.

It's also why so many people are turned off by CG anime, because the lack of natural movement is much more obvious. With 2D you just fill in the blanks since it's a drawing, but with 3D it looks more like moving dolls than living things. Blame still had this problem, but since a lot of it is machine cyborg fightan it's a little easier to forgive.

>>157464584
>for a beam to create a 70 km hole, its spread must be minimal, so the initial hole will be smaller
There is no excess energy in a GBE shot.
>重力子はビームにしても、あまりがない。

>>157464803
You're asking for someone to explain what a Western is to you? If you have seen any Western films, you know what is meant by it.

>>157464830
Why is that better than the entire movie? The tone is much closer to the manga.

>>157464713
Yes, I wish the soundtrack had more variation and recognizable character to it. For instance, I liked the occasional western vibes in what appeared to be Killy's theme, but I heard it a tad too often, with not enough variation arrangements, so it made the OST seem limited.

>>157464054
trying to mimic the framerate of handdrawn animation

>>157464734

That seems more likely with the way things are going, though it's still not exactly easy to make smears in CG.

>>157462872
The ones directed by Akiyuki Shinbo?

>>157464830
Trailer is superior by an unwritable modifier.

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>>157464884

>>157465023
Depends on the rig and the animation software they use. If those are in place, then it's not difficult.

>>157465075
What am I supposed to glean from this image?

Is your point that the film's depiction isn't in line with what I said? Because I don't disagree with that.

>>157464499
It's the studio's style

>>157462239

it liked it a lot, i have a lot of faith in polygon for the future, hope we get more movies

>>157465107

Here's hoping. I know 2D animation is where a lot of people's hearts are, but after seeing 3D come so far I really want to see it come into it's own.

>>157464944
I've seen plenty of westerns anon, and I don't see how they relate to this movie.

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>>157462239
Killi's character is really weird.
I dont like that they moved the perspective towards the willagers and changed the spirit of the story from the adventures of a space hobo in an endless dumpster into an epic hero story it lost it's exploratory spirit.

In other hand a faithful adaptation about Killi just walking in silence with dark souls lever storytelling wouldnt really fly either.

how did the safeguard enter into tae?

>>157465286
Mysterious, light spoken, straight Ger enters town and helps solve a problem technically made worse by his arrival.

Basically most western flicks.

>>157465400
>Basically most western flicks.
Maybe a third of western flicks.

>>157465393
Through her Anus, because anal sex means you're still a virgin.

>>157465386
I wonder which perverted fucks setup those cloning facilities

>>157464476
>the manga's 90s cyberpunk feel.
except the manga didn't have a 90s cyberpunk feel

it was very much its own thing

>>157464499
lazy

>>157465477
>those cloning facilities
He's not talking about Giger tier birthing machine.
It's about cyborg incubator he encountered in the very beginning.

>>157465393
I don't think she entered her, seems like she just copied her appearance.

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>>157465477
People like Nihei himself.

>>157464862
>It can be done in 3D as well, it just takes way more time and effort. Models have to be rigged completely around it,
do you have an example of this? I don't think I've seen 3D animation that does this.

>>157465393
Sanakan crushed Tae's skull and just changed her body into Tae's form

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9/10

i liked it alot
got the blame feeling right

>>157465555
but it is a good thing

>>157465590
What is that

>>157465286
If you imagine the fisherman village as a frontier town and Killy as a wandering outlaw cowboy, it's an easy comparison to many classic western films.

They obviously were drawing similarities to westerns with the guitar music and certain shots of Killy.

>>157465707
art

>>157465286
>I've seen plenty of westerns anon, and I don't see how they relate to this movie.
You can't seriously be this dense. Mysterious rambler with a gun strides into a lonely town on the edge of nowhere, takes care of some outlaw killers, makes some new problems, moves on, etc.

It feels like if cibo had played a little safer in the factory, things would not have went to shit.

>>157465712
>>157465816
It's a common story in westerners, but definitely not the majority, so the comparison is pretty easy to miss.
Revenge stories and searching for gold were immediately what came to mind for me.

I don't know if someone have posted this before, stage greeting, I like that part when Sanakan's seiyuu call those safeguards on stage
https://youtu.be/Xxz1xeYtT-c

>>157464679
He did once in the elevator.

>>157465592

Well it's everywhere in films now, this example is pretty literal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7-EP-g7VTc

>>157465937

I thought that was tranquilizer to put him in hibernation mode

>>157465707
Axlotl Tank

>>157465937
>>157466006
It is. He also tranqs himself at the beginning, after the village plagued by the magic bugs tells him that they don't have Net Terminal Genes.

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How was the gravity beam?

>>157463330
Very early safeguard.

>>157465592

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYP7rJni1vc

>>157466140
Like a little baby laser.

>>157466172
He's 100% human. Down to the marrow in his bones.

>>157462239
I always imagined Killy's gun as some sort of gravity weapon.

It wasn't the best adaptation of one of my favorite manga, but they did good for something that probably wouldn't translate well into motion.

In any case, I welcome the jewbux funding nip studios instead of stealing the franchise and ruining it with white washed garbaged. This is a step in the right direction.

Cibo little clang clang steps are cute, CUTE!

>>157465891
>Revenge stories and searching for gold were immediately what came to mind for me.
search for gold = net terminal gene

>no Toha heavy industries arc
>no Seu fight
>no capitol city
>no cibo experiment vision
>no silicon life
>no level 5 exterminator
>no elevetor scene

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You got this if you watch at theater on Nipland

>>157465484
I remember it reminding of system shock a lot.

I havent read or played either in forever though

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>>157466237
Sure is

>>157462239
killy is more talkative in the manga
he was too bland in the adaptation

>>157466214
great watch, thank you.

http://s-ss-s.com/s/2017/05/18/movie-blame-interview/

This Nihei interview about the film is interesting. He says how he did lots of drawing for it. Designing and redesigning various settings and characters.

>>157466493
I don't know why they made him talk so slow. I never got that from the manga.

>>157465484
Do you even know what cyberpunk is?

>>157466646
yeah it was weird
he acts like a human in the manga
they probably wanted to attract the fujo audience

>>157466237
He is made of plastic.
He learns it when he regains full consciousness after being poisoned by Sanakans needle

>>157466485
>I remember it reminding of system shock a lot.
there were lots of hallways, true

The OST totally ruined it. Should have had far more atmospheric electronic and Killys theme was overused and cringeworthy.

I feel like Killys character makes no sense for normies and they missed the key opening scene from the manga that helps establish his character.

He also doesn't look as boyish as the manga and I dislike that.

Also they pulled a lot of the violence in favour of CUTE GIRLS and EXPOSITION which is fucking sacrilege. The joy of Blame was inferring the backstory for yourself.

Cibo was great tho and I liked the artsyle even if there wasn't much architecture porn.

>>157466646
>>157466493
Nihei seems to think they captured him accurately in the film as compared to the manga.
>>157466618
>逆に霧亥のキャラは、本当に原作と変わっていないので、そのブレなさにも注目していただければと思います。

>>157466676
not all sci fi is automatically cyberpunk, dingus

>>157466676
Do you?
Blame! is posthuman, not transhuman, and it has nothing to do with politics.
Has nothing to do with most of the narrative mechanics present in cyberpunk.

You're one of the fags who labels everything which doesn't fall under star trek futurist bullshit cyberpunk, aren't you?

Zuru a cute (and she wasn't useless like another girl I know...)

>>157466723
That's an outright lie.

>>157466487
Just because it's not normal flesh doesn't mean it's not flesh. You know that your body almost completely regenerates its cells all the time? The only cells that you keep for life are your brain cells. Killy's nonstandard human cells are still human cells.

>>157466835
You dont know any girls

http://studiokrum.com/blame/blamepag.html

didnt this ssite have nihei interviews where it was explained who killy is?

>>157462483

You will have absolutely no clue the scale, reason or scope of anything after watching. The things that were mysterious in the Manga(who/what is Killy), are laid bare in the anime, and the main themes of the Manga(endless struggle alone) take a back seat to action and psudo harems.

Still it's a passable 6/10 on it's own. As an adaptation to introduce you to Blame, maybe a 2/10.

>>157466676
>cyberpunk
cyberpunk is more about a near future society overrun with corporations, government, and hackers, clashing ideologies, political factions, etc. Like Ghost In The Shell. Blame is dystopian science fiction, but that doesn't qualify it as cyberpunk.

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>>157466962
>You dont know any girls
I was talking about the movie, you don't need to remind me that...

moeblobs ruined it

>>157466968
Maybe, but it doesn't matter. Nihei has made it abundantly clear that Killy is a human being, regardless of whether or not anyone else agrees. Part of his inspiration in making Killy was that he liked the idea of himself, a human, being able to live forever.

If you're referring to who Killy is in general - that, too, is in the artbook notes.

>>157466907
>it's not normal flesh
He's made out of plastic flesh

I give it a 10/10 in hopes they fund knights of sidonia season 3. Other than that i hoping the ost would be epic electronic synth like the main theme. Also wish there was more fighting and use of the gbe

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>>157467173
You mean saved it from its utter mediocrity.

>>157467192
Bullshit, and you know it. Don't lie to people. Either source it, or don't say it.

>>157466972
I think it was a great introduction to the manga. I had never paid any attention to Blame! before this film and now I have purchased the manga because the setting was intriguing. Most comments I have seen from people new to the franchise seem to agree too.

>>157466803
>>157466815
>>157467044
Cyber punk is High tech low life. Fuck you all.

>>157464138
Faggot, the manga will not simply stop existing because we have the movies, what the fuck is wrong with fuckers like you who get triggered if they make some movie or anime based on the manga and screech as if the original manga will lose something because someone made a adaptation, this movie was one of the thing I wished for a long ass time after watching the shorts but here we have some autist saying he doesn't want more because somehow it would ruin the atmosphere of the fucking manga

>>157463509
But his body was still one of the types of body that the safeguard ended up using, he was probably a prototype they put a human mind inside to do the mission once they saw that everything was going to hell pretty fucking fast

>>157467221
Can someone make a gif of this smugness?

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>>157467084
Sry

>>157467363
Jesus christ, no it isn't. That would make the word fucking useless.
>hurr all scifi which isn't sunshine and rainbows is cyberpunk
Go back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.

>>157467230
Are you fucking blind? What material can survive having the heat nearing that of a fucking star melt his goddamn face down to the skeleton? Just because he has a human mind on his doesn't mean his body is organic, next you're going to tell me Cibo was human, even while reduced to skeleton

I have seen you in other threads pushing this shit and talking about proof while not sourcing anything you claim while we point out pages from the manga itself.

He wasn't "enchanced" they just put someone they trusted in a pre-safeguard body because it was the only body that would be able to survive all teh shit he might need doing

>>157465592
Bubuki/Buranki did it

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>>157467596
Fuck you, secondary. I've been reading Blame! since 2001.

>>157467252

Well hopefully with all this hype about the new movie we can convince a few people to read the manga first. I thought introducing the Safeguards first, then letting their existence stew for a while before revealing what Killy was, was kinda nice. Also not ever seeing regular humans until Toha Industries added something unique. The introduction of Toha, as a staple was a missed mark too, even just a name drop from a mark on the wall could have added a hook for future installments. Like I said, as a stand alone it was all of a 6/10, but as for it's ability to drive home the themes of the Manga, 2/10.

>>157467663
Apparently that hasn't stopped you from being a fucking moron.

>>157467663
opinion of retards on myal doesn't mean anything

it's not really cyberpunk anon, sorry

>>157467742
Shut up and go read the manga. You don't even know what cyberpunk is.

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>>157467599
>talking about proof while not sourcing anything
Retarded fuck. You would dare say such a thing? Come back when you speak Japanese. Or kill yourself. Kill yourself.

>>157467596
Is blade runner cyberpunk?

>>157466714
>they probably wanted to attract the fujo audience
Did you have a stroke or what? How is talking slowly and inhumanly going to attract them? Or do you just say that

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>>157467806
>myal
Animeonlyfag confirmed.

>>157467855
I was just guessing, dude. I don't know what site that is.

>>157467824
Of course, it's a classic.

>>157467824
yes

it's concerned with transhuman issues

>>157467183
If Killy is a human why is he a cyborg?
Checkamte.

>>157467824
Moreso than Blame!
But not by much.
Cyberpunk is very derivitive of that movie more than Blade runner is derivitive of cyberpunk.

>not watching the true Blame CGI masterpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JxU7FbLUM

>>157467880
That proves you don't read manga often, then your opinion is invalid. You gonna say biomega isn't cyberpunk too?

>>157467230
Ok fine. It's synthetics plastic compound flesh.

Happy?

>>157467953
A man with a plate in his knee is a cyborg. Don't get bogged down by the breadth of terminology.

>>157467599
>can survive having the heat nearing that of a fucking star melt
plastic melts bro, lol

>>157467986
you sure are concerned with gatekeeping

chill out dude

go play with your fidget spinner

i'll be over here watching Naruto for the third time (great anime you probably haven't heard of)

>>157467989
Still no source or justification whatsoever. Shut up or fuck off.

>>157467363
Blame is no life, though

It's post-cyberpunk if anything, the human race has effectively gone [naturally] extinct

>>157468020
No that's a Knight.

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>niggas saying Blame! is not cyberpunk
TOP KEK!

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>>157467953
>If Killy is a human why is he a cyborg?
He is a safeguard.
Think about synthetics from Fallout/Stellaris or these guys from Bladerunner.

>>157467837
>mysterious good looking stranger that doesn't talk much
you'd be surprised how many woman like that shitty troupe

>>157468137
Where do Siliconfags fit?

>>157468120
It's obviously a post cyberpunk dying earth story.

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>>157468120
I too like to post reaction images in place of sound arguments.

>>157468181
You have to read Noise to know the answer.

>>157468181
Other Synthetics, they kinda naturally evolved from the internet and then hijacked hardware in the reality like skynet.

>>157468240
No. Tell me.

>>157468299
No.

>>157468282
But are they also technically "safeguard?" Do they share origins?

>>157468343
Read the manga.

>>157466424
Coming up in BLAME!!

that's a really, really small Sana-kan.

>>157466473
>>157468450

>>157468343
Safeguard are the police set up by the people long ago.
Killi is like special agent.
Silicon creatures are internet native liveforms that evolved on their own.

>>157468120
It's even more ridiculous because people very often tend to call cyberpunk things that aren't cyberpunk.

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>>157468181
>>157468299

They were made with evil experiment, the safeguards technology is the same as the proto slicon lifes.

>>157466385
no the gold was the food it even looked gold

Klly didnt talk enough

everyone else talked too much

>>157468687
>Klly didnt talk enough
Get out.

>>157468716
he should've said 20 words instead of the 16 he did

>>157468687
I won't mind if he sounded robotic but god he sounded slow.

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>>157468716
No really, the original Killi had a way more fleshed out personality

>>157464028
Cibo doesn't give a FUCK

>>157465891
>>157466385
>>157468644
The term is "MacGuffin"

>>157468716
He didnt shoot his gun enough.

I guess it would remove the tension if he just dumped into the robots

>>157468912
"Having personality" doesn't mean "talkative". He probably should have had a few more lines, but not much.

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>>157468577
>>157468181
>>157468299
Here the explanation. Their bodies are the same.

OST when?

>>157468943
It's only a macguffin when it doesn't matter what the thing is, just that everybody wants it.

>>157467670
>Like I said,
That isn't what you said though. You said "as an adaptation to introduce you to Blame". I was telling you that generally it seems most people new to the franchise generally have a positive opinion and want to learn more after watching it. This makes it a good adaptation to introduce you to Blame.

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>want to reread blame!
>remember I didn't understand anything even after reading the whole thing in a few days
How do I stop being such a maroon?

>>157469116
You could easily replace the instant food bars with batteries or harpoons. The fact that this particular MacGuffin cannot be a precious metal or gemstone doesn't mean it isn't a MacGuffin.

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Fucking robutt, stop being so complex!

>>157469213
Pay attention this time.
I also read it fast and can't remember most of it.

>>157469310
The anime design is much better.

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>>157469213
You only need to read it 2 times to fully understand.

Every time I re-read it I learn something new. Look at how this guy is terrified when he sees child sanakan.

>>157469043
Don't spoonfeed people.

>>157469358
no its not
fuck that kawaii shit

>>157469358
Much more fapable you should say.

>>157469116
>>157469228
Ah, after re-reading, I suppose that it isn't actually a MacGuffin because food, batteries, and harpoons are useful, consumable items that are required for the Electrofishers to survive in the Megastructure. A MacGuffin must be irrelevant to the plot, but the Electrofishers would be pretty fucked without food and batteries.

>>157462239
I enjoyed it.
3D was alright.
I also think I need to re-read Blame. I forgot some of the plot.

>>157469358
it's generic and cute, which doesn't fit blame! at all but it'll probably help it's popularity

>>157469671
I guess anon on /a/ knows much better than Nihei what fits his own series.

>>157469310
>wanting Coolio

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>>157469716
>Nihei knows what fits his series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs

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So I decided to read the manga because of the movie.

Im a little past the point where Killy and Cibo meet.

Is any of this shit supposed to make sense?

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>>157469213

>>157469878
No, you'll probably have to re-read each chapter to really get it. Each panel skips more movement than you're probably used to, so careful examination is required.

>>157469878
just keep reading
And when you're done read it again

>>157469878
I hadn't read the manga and I think I fully understood the movie. If anything it probably spoonfed a bit too much.

>>157469878
Fuck off you fucking /v/edditor.

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>>157462239
The main girl, Zarru or something, made by peepee hard and throbbing.

>>157469716
artistic choices usually won't resemble economic choices
You on the other hand seem to exactly know Nihei's intention on the change of style

>>157470025
Well you can read him talking about it here
>>157466618

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>>157470128
well I concede then

>>157470454
oh shit could you please tell me the name of that manga I forgot about it but I loved it

>>157470454
nvm i found it
thanks for reminding me about it tho

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>Nihei: ... So after about ten years of that, I decided to try doing a normal manga for once – change up my art style, try to make as user-friendly a manga as possible. Knights of Sidonia is one of the results of that.
>–The art in Knights of Sidonia does seem quite different from your previous work.
>Nihei: Yeah, I wanted the art to have a Tezuka-level mass appeal. (human shape laughs out-of-sync with his 7th-plane form)

>>157466752
>Should have had far more atmospheric electronic
I agree, the OST didn't fit the techno-hell atmosphere imo.

But it was pretty good overall.

>>157470454
He does say with the story that they decided from the very beginning that it had to be made easier to understand if they wanted it to be a major work because the original material wasn't really commercial driven or meant for a wide general audience at all.

>>157469918
>each panel probably skips a lot more movement than you're used to
I noticed that a lot too. Im kind of glad you mentioned it

>>157470690
Sauce?

>>157470548
Helck.

Will there be more though

>>157470690
He doesn't even know what's his strong point anymore.

>>157467378
I think he just wants a more subtle approach to things. Rather than exposition on your face and shitty armored cast with gramps and the teenagers that takes up most of the screen time. A 1 to 1 adaptation is impossible but at least the what the original source material intended. And this doesn't necessarily mean 1 hour of him walking but a more atmospheric feel. Because I think it's possible to include characters you can relate to (think omushishi or casshern) without making them feel like 1 dimensional action film cutout like the fishermen.

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>>157470548
>>157471040

>>157471084
Again, none of that affects the source material at all.

>>157471018
https://mangabrog.wordpress.com/2016/02/29/a-2016-interview-with-tsutomu-nihei/

>>157471232
Nobody is arguing that it does. Other than yourself, perhaps.

>>157471296
Perhaps you should try reading the chain of comments you replied to, faggot.

Is there any particular reason why they dropped so much of the violence?

>>157469310
Right is generic trash. Left is a girl that is fighting for her life and doesn't have time to get a uguu kawaii haircut because she is too busy fucking robots up.

>>157471467
Cute

>>157471369
I suggest that you do the same.

>>157471467
Pure sex.

>>157471232
Why does it matter if it doesn't affect the source material? That's a stupid argument in the first place. Sure, the source material give you enjoyment. But you're watching an adaptation primarily because of its source material. An adaption shouldn't be 1 to 1. But it should at least adhere to what the source material intended and break a few rules. For example, the new ghost in the shell film is shit because it's a mediocre scifi slapped with the brand name and its characters. And this is pretty sad considering Ghost In The Shell can be adapted in different ways as shown by its different titles. And while the film isn't the same because it follow the source material better. But people who come in expecting a more subtle and atmospheric approach to a Blame adaptation are disappointed. Not because they wanted Kill just walking but more because the creators felt the need to appeal too much to the mainstream audiences by putting characters who shove information to you.

>>157471473
Left is a girl wasting time to get disgusting nigger hairdo.
Right makes do with a few hairpins stuck haphazardly in a matter of seconds.
Anyway the only really efficient way is to cut it short.

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Oh god why is Cibo so fucking hot holy shit

>>157471704
I really don't like her feet stumps, it looks a bit retarded.

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I was expecting this thing to show up.

So disappointed

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>>157470454
In this interview from he mentions a number of reasons for making the girls cute in the adaptation. He talks about commercial success as a motivating factor. He also mentions that he felt like in a particularly brutal world like the source material for BLAME! you should at least be able to have cute heroine. He also says that he just wanted to be able to see the cute girls he designed brought to life by Polygon at full strength.

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>>157471752
>not wanting her to step on your dick with her stilt legs

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>>157471766
He kind of shows up n the background though.

>>157471752

Those aren't stumps, you mouthbreather. They're just NXTLVL high-tech high heels. She's like on her tiptoes all the time with platform shoes that taper to spikes. She must have a really high DEX and have done a lot of practicing to be able to move so nimbly like that.

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>>157471842
>tfw Cibo will never stab your balls with her pointy feet
Just fucking kill me

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>>157462239
Zuru is cute

>>157471819
Would you ever be so kind as give a full translation of it? I don't think that we'll ever get one, otherwise.

We've never so much as gotten a renewed version of the artbook notes, and they're extremely easily available, after all.

>>157472010
How old is she supposed to be.

>>157471680
>Why does it matter if it doesn't affect the source material?
Because some faggot is suggesting that the adaptation taking liberties somehow ruins the source material. For fuck's sake, refer to >>157471369

As for
>>157471586
Refer to
>>157467378
>>157464138
>>157463987
>>157463466
And kill yourself Miguel

>>157472134
Old enough if you know what I mean.

>>157472125
I can't read Japanese well enough to do that. I am just using OCR then ichi.moe and shaky knowledge of Japanese grammar.

>>157472150
>Because some faggot is suggesting that the adaptation taking liberties somehow ruins the source material.
>but reading the manga gives a far more unique experience
His argument is stupid. But he never once said that it ruins anything. The adaptation just didn't fulfill his expectations. So, the guy's just salty for future adaptations.

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I want to make NET TERMINAL BABIES with Cibo!

>>157472374

Sanakan pls

>>157467221
she suppose be emotionless.

wtf

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>>157472488
You can impregnate this Cibo (cyborg) but the safeguards will fuck with you forever, wyd?

>>157471819
>my new shit make me more money, fuck my old stuff
>MOE!!!!!!!!!!!!! KAWAII!!!!!!
I'm done with this bald, failed architect.

>>157472262
Damn. I have an almost-perfect grasp of Japanese grammar, but I don't know any words, and it would be too infuriating for me to sit around OCRing every other bizarre compound used (推進力, 端末, whatever) for me to do it myself - it would take me like an hour of work to do that page. That's why I was hoping for a more fluent translator.

>>157472150
Nobody in that chain says anything about the manga being ruined other than you.

>>157469358
i agree, Nihei don't know how to drawn human in his early day
>which doesn't fit blame!
it fit Nihei new styles

>>157471887
that is a Builder not a safeguard

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>>157472615
>she suppose be emotionless
>literally her last words are "Kyrii" as she dies

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>>157472615
There's a couple of instances where she breaks the emotionless routine for brief spurts of smug sadism after getting what she wants in the movie. It's incredibly arousing.

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>>157472656
[heavy breathing]

>>157472763
she look emotionless in that panel
what is your point?

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>>157472134
The JK age

>>157472816
>eyebrows knitted
>mouth open a little
>eyes open and expressive
Clearly she was meant to look something other than neutral/passive in that panel, especially since she's calling out to Killy.

>>157472694
>my new shit make me more money, fuck my old stuff
his old manga still sell pretty well

one or two new movie can't ruined the source material

>>157467221
I wasn't sold on the newer, more expressive designs at first, but after watching the movie, they really work well.

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>>157472807
Will Cibo's childbearing hips ever be put to use?

>>157472730
You can OCR the whole thing fairly quickly and accurately automatically using google drive (upload the image and select open in google docs) or ABBYY Finereader especially if you crop it and then adjust the image to make the text stand out more. Which stops you having to use something like KanjiTomo all the time manually. Then paste full sentences into ichi.moe and get the words from that.

>>157472880
>eyebrows knitted
that was blood

>mouth open a little
she was talking
of course she open her mouth

>eyes open and expressive
no it is not

>>157469907
This image should be mandatory as the OP image for any Blame! threads from now on. Reading this after the first read-through of Blame! and then rereading Blame! makes for a very rewarding experience.

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>>157462442

>>157473090
>You can OCR the whole thing fairly quickly and accurately automatically using google drive ... which stops you having to use something like KanjiTomo all the time
>I have KanjiTomo open right now
God damn it. My life is just a long, uninterrupted series of disappointments.

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Because of this movie Blame! will finally get a doujin.

>mfw

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>>157472772
>>157467221
her face look Fox/ youkai like

doesn't look like Nihei's design >>157463152

Polygon probably hired a new character designer or their modelers have done a really shitty job

>>157464054
I want /v/ to leave.

>>157473287
I only found out about being able to do it a few months ago. Certainly made things a lot easier. Both Google and ABBYY do make some mistakes so you need to check what it produces and sometimes KanjiTomo can be useful there for correcting those mistakes. If there is a non plain colour/patterned/image background its often useless but when it works its so much faster.

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>>157473349
Character designer is same old Yuki Moriyama who designed Sidonia characters.

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>>157473325
But Nihei draws the best doujins already

Who is the best Blame! girl?

>>157473528
the character design in Sidonia was great

but Sanaka in this movie look sly, kind of S

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Nihei's doujin-type work is terrifying.

>>157473736
PCell.

>>157473852
I'd be all over that if it didn't look like piss.
Piss fetishists are outdone only by scat fetishists in terms of garbage taste.

>>157473736
Nihei's daughter

>>157473938
it is no secret that Nihei got odor and scat fetishist

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>>157471752

who was the chick with the dog at the start of the manga

Why did they do they have to make the gun related to killy's energy.

I wanted to see that nigger unload on something

>>157474295
That's a good question.

>>157474295
Nobody important, I bet nihei forget she existed pretty soon after drawing it.

>>157474295
Probably another pre-safeguard agent like Killy.

>>157474295
I thought she was just doing her own shit, and didnt have time to worry about killy.

Or did she talk to him? I cant remember

7/10

Just finished watching it while chilling in my garage with my dog. It was aiight. Cool action and decent English dubbing. Fuck you before you say anything because Netflix exclusives usually have decent dubbing.

I like how the next recommended movie was Stagecoach.

Cibo is cute

>>157474295

Possibly another proto-safeguard agent like killy. It is clear that Nihei hadn't planned out everything at this point, it is possible she was meant to have a bigger role, or simply the world worked differently when she was introduced.

Anyone feel like the soundtrack didn't fit?
It wasn't bad but i always felt Blame would sound more industrial.
Also more "creepy" than "epic"