How come in anime/manga girls often appear to be enjoying it when they get raped?
Is this a case of when she says no it really means do it harder?
Erotic rape has been a fixture in japanese literature since forever. It's just are harcoded into the nipponese mind as their love of Dad/daughter (NBR only of course) romances.
Japan has a prevalent rape culture.
do women like to be raped?
if they don't why do they fantasize about it so much?
its more like wishing someone dead. you do actually really really hate the person, but you dont actually want to kill him, just fantasize about it.
as long as you're a somewhat mentally healthy human being that is
Lack of consent is part of the definition though, I would agree with you if that were not the case. Healthy women might enjoy being overpowered during sex but only when there's consent.
Because the people who draw them are adult men virgins who draw it out of frustration since women have never shown attraction to them, thus thinking that all girls are bitches n' whores who enjoy getting violated.
Fantasizing about having consensual rough sex with a dominant guy=/=rape. They're specifically wanting the situation to happen while rape is having someone or people force you into having sex with them when you don't want to.
>look it up
>At night, young unmarried men would silently enter houses with young unmarried women. A man would silently crawl into a woman's room and make his intentions known. If the woman consented, they would sleep together. By the morning he would leave. The girl's family might know about it, but pretended they did not. It was common for young people to find a husband/wife like this.
If I were a cute girl, I'd want to live in a culture like that.
Prior to capitalism marriage wasn't seen as some kind of holy vow of selective chastity. It was a political thing. Most wives probably hated or at least didn't like their husbands.
They don't want to be raped. If it's someone they know and trust, then they want to be treated like a whore, slapped, thrown around etc.
But if a random dude starts doing it it's pretty traumatic.
Your wife doesn't know it's you, yet she puts no resistance and seems to be enjoying it. What if she kisses you? What if she leglocks? At what point would you call her a whore?
>Marriage has always been a love thing
If your wife can't tell its your cock then you aren't a very good samurai desu and your wife probably has a gangbang with all your samurai buddies when you're off defending your family honor
I'd say watch the 1997 and then the films. So you get a triple dose of Golden age. You will need it when you then finish the manga, which is 3 times longer then what you just read. Then after all that, you may watch the new anime which is just... it is bad but you watch it to watch it.
then why even bring up if they consented or not?
>women could be freely raped back then by anyone
you're the naive one. it wasn't some otaku rape playground like you're imagining.
>Marriage has always been a love thing
>doesn't know about the implication
Submissive women fantasize about being dominated by a powerful man. It's only phrased as "rape" because it's punchy and concise and it's not erotic to describe it as "I want to surrender control of my body to an attractive mate who makes me feel desirable". They don't actually want to be raped, which means to have sex forced upon them when they don't desire it.
Based. Those people were sick fucks and deserved to die. Of course, he also deserved to for being a part of that culture, but at least he finally saw through the bullshit and proved honorable in the end.
>Marriage has always been a love thing.
You know dude you don't have to be so cold towards newcomers, just help me out.
Actually, it's been proven that arranged marriages produce better results and higher couple satisfaction.
Marrying someone based on "love" is far more likely to end in disaster.
Actual rape is different from 2D rape.
For example, I really like eroge where I rape women into submission.
In reality, that probably won't happen. Real rape would involve a lot of kicking and screaming, or a really dry vagina where the woman is looking into the abyss.
>Real rape would involve a lot of kicking and screaming, or a really dry vagina where the woman is looking into the abyss.
only if you think most rape happens by strangers, violently forcing themselves on someone... which it's not.
Daily reminder that Casca didn't enjoy it and that there is very little difference between rape and getting mugged, other than the fact that guys ask you if you enjoyed it afterwards when you get raped while they never wonder if someone secretly enjoyed having to hand over their wallet after being beaten into submission.
>I know most rapes are not done by strangers, but by someone the victim knows.
that was my point, but also since the victims tend to know the perpetrator they also don't put up an actual fight. There's also a bunch of passed out sex.
>wtf i hate him now
>claim he raped me to save face
>everyone thinks i was asking for it and calls me a slut
>guy gets sent to prison
>ruined both our lives
This doesn't make any sense anon...
now fantasised rape is very brutal. Most of the time the rapist want to show dominance over the victim. The sexual pleasure is second. There was a case (in murricah no less) that a guy got raped so bad that it ended retarded. The rapist smashed his head while raping him until he got unconscious.
The most common references for rape are fantasy, extremely sexualized rape and SJW "rape".
I think the important factor is marine rather than black.
Soldiers of any kind have the high potential to be assholes because they have guns and overactive testosterone and the civilians they interact with don't.
I have sometimes fantasized about raping some girls I know, but in the bullshit hentai sense of rape where they say they don't want but end up enjoying every minute
real rape is fucked up and has more to do with authority and power than sexual gratification, no way in hell I would ever rape someone in the full sense of rape, althought I once fucked a passed out drunk girl tho hehe
As someone who has watched enough anime and is actually currently reading Berserk by having a friend loan me most of his complete collection, I seriously cannot imagine any successfully animated adaptation of the story after the point when Guts starts fighting demons full-time. This may sound like sperging out, but there're too many non-standard and occasionally weird plot twists and developments that would be very hard to put into an anime episodic format (though of course it's possible). Then there's of course the general question of translating the rest of the manga's high-quality, which would be very difficult.
My advice is to keep reading and avoid any of the adaptations for as long as you can (completely avoid the new cgi version), and you will find yourself not disappointed in the slightest.
>mfw I can't feel attracted towards any character that has been raped or almost been raped without feeling deep pangs of guilt
Because any lewd thoughts about the girl inevitably remind me of the rape(s) and instantly kills my boner. It makes me desire to comfort and protect the girl instead and mete out vengeance on her assailants.
>Implying only women have rape fantasies
Don't mind me, just posting some canonical rape victim
Both Guts and Casca got blacked and branded, they're clearly made for each other.
All three of them are cucks, really. Casca became a cuck when Guts took her place as Griffith's favorite and Griffith got cucked when he realized Guts prefers darkies.
I'd like to add that, after repeated instances of sexual abuse, victims start to become dead inside and feel nothing. It's what I've learned from all the Take a Shits I've read during the ad breaks for Jeremy Kyle.
>like half of early literature is about unfulfilled love due to forced marriages or people literally marrying out of love for each other
>somehow marriage isn't about love
Some people need to get over their edginess and read a book.
And surely fiction has always been an accurate representation of society and not wish fulfillment... All those stories are about that because in practices Marriage was about economic, social & political positioning. And if you found someone else you had the hots for instead, too bad. Fathers don't want to raise bastards so adultery will not be tolerated. Thus all those literary romances.
Those stories didn't have to spend any time explaining how marriage and love are related to each other, so clearly everybody understood back then that marriage was about love. Just because people didn't always marry out of love doesn't mean that the concept didn't exist back then.
I vaguely remember a quote that I'll paraphrase as "Love is the peasant's benefit." Looked it up and coincidentally it's very close to a Barbie movie song called "Love is for Peasants". I've never seen a Barbie movie in my life.
>caska becomes sane again
>reveals that she only acted this way because Griffith's bird dick causes so much pleasure that you actually become retarded for a few years
>In the final battle Caska joins Griffith without a second thought
>Guts dies trying to kill Griffith and Caska and Griffith marry
>yfw Miura made the longest NTR manga of all time
Casca is technically Griffith's mother as the demon babby is his vessel, she can't spend more than a few moments near Griffith without collapsing from brand pain and Griffith is marrying Charlotte so he can become king of his dreem kastul.
I fail to see the logic in Casca going back to Griffith, her dreams clearly suggest that she's still in love with Guts. Though, if you enjoy the feeling of being a worthless cuck, be my guest.
Why are NTRfags so retarded? Why would Griffith marry her?
The Egg was his vessel, the baby got fused with it. No technicality makes him Casca's son, although I'm certain it will play an important role in time
The point is that Casca sees Griffith as her child, while Griffith can't control the babby's instincts to keep his mother safe. If the two end up meeting again, this may prove to be his downfall if Griffith can't bring himself to kill her.
It's not going to be "oh shit I can't kill her", more like having to take a pause (in a situation where Casca is back in action and they are trying to bring Griff down) giving leeway for Guts to get a hit in or something. But yeah, that's what I meant
Many women orgasm during rape. It's just sex, when you remove the non-consensual party of it.
It gets amplified when the woman has some psychological fixture with being dominated which she may or may not even be aware she has.
It is also part of the reason why many raped wo/men get mindfucked after the fact: Not being able to deal with the fact that they "liked" but it was (most of the times) instead just a physiological reaction.
Take all of that and throw it in the trash because Japan is fucking retarded and rape is fun.
>its more like wishing someone dead. you do actually really really hate the person, but you dont actually want to kill him, just fantasize about it.
If I fantasize about someone being dead I sure as fuck want him to die.
I might not want to kill him myself because of the possible consequences and/or impact it would have on my mental health, but I do want him to die nevertheless and would be happy if he died.
Does anyone fantasize about saving rape victims and making them fall in love with you because you are the first person to treat them like a human being instead of a piece of meat?
Is there a trope name for this?
People at this anime are so incompetent to rape
>Is there a trope name for this?
It's honestly just a more realistic version of the damsel in distress trope. You don't have to be a particularly weak or stupid woman to become dependent on a man who treats you like shit.
Of course, if you squeeze the prostate. The problem is that most men's asshole won't be loose enough and the pain will outweigh the pleasure. Unless you use something long and slender, like fingers