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When is Kazakiri going to come back in her angel form and teach Aiwass a lesson?
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>>157378589
She and Aiwass have the same power source so she just needs to steal the esper drain that keeps him summoned.
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>>157378589
>her
>doing anything other than being another weapon for Aleister
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Where is she anyways?
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>>157378902
Hanging out in the Imaginary Number District.
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>>157378902
Walking aimlessly around town.
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Aleister basing plans that are doomed to fail on touma who can't fail to save people is pretty smart I have to say. I only wonder if the "fall with him" line by Aiwass is intended or Aleisters shit luck catching up to him
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>>157378902
Looking for her glasses. Aiwass took them.
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>>157379470
Honestly she looks better without them. I never really cared for her until she showed up like this in OT21.
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Toya wants this
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>>157379016
>aimlessly
Heh.
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>>157378589
>“There are lives that were saved just because you were here. There are people who were given courage just because you ran forward. So don’t hesitate!! I assure you that the path you walked was the right one and that it created a great many possibilities. If something about you is rejected as wrong, then I’ll open it all up and explain this to you!! So, so, so!! No matter what anyone says and no matter what logic they use against you! Stay true to your own paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath!!!!!!”

Dialogue wise, it sounds like Mikoto rather than Misaki since it's so fierce and strong toned.and I think these are her thoughts too since they exchanged words about walking the same path and her words about lives being saved are about her sisters, so is her gaining courage when seeing him fight.

The part about who did it is intended for who blew a hole in WB, It's a combined effort but mostly it's Misaka's firepower and electricity when firing her Railgun and then Misaki's touch is making this Railgun last longer by accelerating it's power instead of vaporizing.
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>>157379539
Blonde is always best
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So, this last novel is talkin a lot about Aleister, so how about we talk bout the deck the real one made on the Arcana?
Which Arcana do you think fit each character?
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>>157379566
Like father like son.
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>>157379787
Only the small ones
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>>157379996
Correct
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>>157379566
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>>157379804
Well what do you fucking think?
The Magician.
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>>157379539
Those rainbow eyes are hypnotizing
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>>157379804
something like this probably
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This series would have been better without the angels/magic god crap
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>>157379804
Are you talking about this deck?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth_tarot_deck
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>>157380107
>Kakine
>Emperor
Of what? The Holy Empire of Jobistania?
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>>157380060
It seems Touma's taste runs in the family
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>>157380107
This shit is so wrong it makes my blood boil.
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>>157380139
Nice try Mikoto.
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>>157379566
But what does Mikoto's father look like, or is she a bastard?
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Would you pet biribiri?
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>>157380278
Like Rider from F/Z
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>yfw Crunchy subs Index S3
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>>157380290
That would most likely result in electrocution unless if you're an esper that can harmlessly pass electricity or, you're like Touma.
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Shitway a shit
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>>157380107
The fuck is this shit?
Did you just look at the images and the name and then make it?
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>“But, Kamijou Touma, I modelled it all after your free Thelema.”
What does "Thelema" mean in this context? Touma's desires? will? raison d'être?
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>>157380368
not mine
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>>157380344
>University city
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>>157380107
Well Misaka seems to be spot on, but other than that it's pretty off.
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Reminder that by rejecting Othinus's perfect world, Touma tecnically killed an Aleister Crowley who lived happily with his daughter
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>>157380278
Like Katze
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>>157380433
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Kuroko is now POTUS, how do you react?
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>>157380433
Touman is selfish
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>>157380107
I swear you just RNG'd this because it's clearly wrong.
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>>157380433
And he's absolutely going to do it again
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>>157380519
The threat of nuclear annihilation when the POTUS drunkenly tries to get a coke has just been eliminated. I would think relief is an appropriate reaction.
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>>157380384
His True Will, going by what I understand of Thelema.
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>>157380519
At least she's not as crazy as drumpf
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So this novel confirms that Touma is a selfish piece of shit that wants people to suffer so he can feel good about saving them. Fuck Touma.
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>>157380433
Fuck.
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>>157380765
t. Stiyl
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>>157380433
Did he? If phase fuckery killed his daughter I doubt even more phase fuckery would bring her back.
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>>157380433
Holy fuck, why didn't i realise this sooner?
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>>157380816
That post doesn't sound anything like Styil
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>>157380765
His logic was always illogical from the start. I'm not surprised.
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Touma literally did nothing wrong
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>>157380433
This is why we didn't see Aleister in the Omega Phase. He was dying, satisfied, of old age with his daughters and wife by his side.
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>>157380433
>But having Touma reject it was also part of Alesiter plan.

>AAAAAAAAAA
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>>157381043
>he was actually hoping it to fail
>it didn't
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>>157380629
True will is present in everyone in Thelema, Alesiter took Touma's as the center then gathered the will of the rest, in the end all men and women are a star in a big constaltion.

Fuck Kamachi is teaching me Thelema now, interesting since I always wanted to research it.
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Where is will-tan now?
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I doubt that if his daughter didnt't die everything would have been fine.
One thing we learned about Aleister in this volume was that while he may seemed normal, his way to think was completely abnormal.

He would have continued wtih more and more dangerous experiments, until he was able to kill his family and break the world sooner or later.

In fact his whole trying to save his daughter thing, very much seems like a self-fuliflled prophecy type, with he saw his daughter die because he actually was the one who used strange magic experiments on mother and daughter, thereby making them ill.

So the answer like always is to punch the faggot.
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>>157381084
>that human had some hope but knew it would fail because all his actions led to an unfortunate end the world run by god is so fucked

>Alesiter I'm rooting for you even if it meant finishing Touma and sending him to Death-chan. Any girl who wants him can follow him there, pretty sure Misaka will be the first,maybe the only.
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>>157378589

Reminder that Mobileposter is literally the Kazakiri of Raildex threads formed from our own AIM fields.
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>>157381267
because*
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Lola will save the world and make Aleister pay for his crimes.
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>>157381249
The volume explicitly told you she was going to die by a freak accident of phases anon. If it was just magic shit corrupting her he could have fixed it.
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>>157381267
>only Misaka
Othinus is possible since she has literally no other reason to live as it is
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>>157381452
.... yeah of course it are the phases, still I think a lot of what he tried would have sooner or later killed his family anyways.
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>>157380107
Gunha`s the Fool, Aleister is The World, Touma is outside the deck.
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>>157381616
Why would Gunha be the fool? It usually represents the beginning and suggests infinite possibilities.
And Aleister fits the Emperor way more, The Emperor is all about control (which is the only thing that matters from the results for him) and fatherly instincts. Though, I guess he also comes with a reversed Wheel of Fortune card.
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>>157381693
Holy shit.
>>157381327
Lola will be slain by Touman and left in a dark alleyway
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A thought crossed my mind while thinking about IT : Is it possible for IT to share the same memories with Touma? If IT is something that has been with him since birth/before AC, wouldn't that mean Touma's memories CAN return?
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>>157381708
Aleister is the Universe by necessity because he`s already completed the fool`s journey. Gunha`s the fool because he`s barely started it.
Touma`s working on it.
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>>157381737
Maybe.
But i think it doesnt have ay interest in his memories, but rather the exp from the peple he punches.
In otherwords
Maybe not. Eating magic may be the only thing it does, and memories MIGHT be out of ITs range
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>>157381737
IT really seems to have two settings:

>Kill everything
>Protect Touma and kill everything

So I kind of doubt that it is sentient enough or cares enough to store memories. Of course I could be completely wrong. It would be nice if Aleister or Aiwass throws us a bone about what it is.
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>>157381783
But what if IT is sentient? Even if it didn't care about the memories, it would still know. Touma and IT did go through the same events after all.
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>>157381783
Are some of you people seriously believing IT collects EXP?

You must think of it more logical, what is possible to change, how could it change.
All points merely to weaking IB's power through needing to neutralize tons of supernatural powers, so that IT Can manifest easier.
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EXP is just a fancy word for memories anyway
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>>157381779
>Aleister is the Universe by necessity because he`s already completed the fool`s journey.
But that's wrong. Aleister has been stuck in the emperor card ever since he found out about his daughter's death.

As a simple example, we already know many times Aleister never managed to overcome, nor do he plans to, overcome the trauma of his daughter's death. Which, one of the main things about the death card is just that, the transition and gain from loss. It is exactly know for being a transitional card, but Aleister is stuck trying to fight/control fate and the phases itself, which is not something the fool does in his journey of self-discovery.
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>>157381933
That's the other series
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>>157380107
Didn't somebody make a thoth version of this already?
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>>157381779
It's been said time and time again his objective is not yet over.
At best it would be a reversed The world card.
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>>157381876
Think of it as Narucuck's 9Fag, slumbering beast until rage surfaces
Here, it would be Touman and IT.
IT would be in a statae of "slumber" until Touman gets into a situation where conflict may arise, and that is when IT wakes up and readies itself.
But using that logic, it may as well be awake all of the time.
>>157381889
Thats interesting.
Think as EXP as eating magic, having a shit ton of magic is like a shit ton of EXP, but its not really EXP, since it supposedly gets stronger. Hoarding power, yeah, maybe. Memories, probably not.
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S3 when
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>>157381889
Aiwass is implying its getting stronger but still not as strong as they wanted.
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>>157379804
0 - The Fool, Kamijou Touma
XII - The Hanged man, Accelerator
XV - The Devil, Othinus
XVI - The Tower, Kamisato Kakeru
XVII - The Star, Will of The Misaka Network
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Personally I still believe IT are the nine dragon imoutos who are yandere for their onii-chan but then IB-chan appeared and tried to claim him for herself.
The final battle will be IT against IB,
Imoutos versus Childhoodfriend.
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>>157382180
Frenda VS 9 Dragons? Im not sure she can shove a few nukes up her skirt.
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Mikoto should play more RPGs so she can understand that magic exists
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>>157382124
Yeah but IT can become stronger in a lot of ways.
I doubt that IT really can level up and the whole EXP thing is not to be taken literally.
So either it somehow absorbs the supernatural powers which IB disperses and becomes stronger.
Or IB gets gradually weaker each time it neutralizes supernatural powers, cause it needs to seal IT away and neutralize outside powers, thereby weakening the seal or hold on IT.
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>>157382070
I could see that, since Mathers managed to blow up IB, it might have a upper limit and run out of ability to absorb magic and break making IT come out at full strength.
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>>157382345
>inb4 your IB has limited use
>"WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME THAT SOONER?!
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What are you guys' opinion on Mina thus far?
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>>157382442
Second best understander
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>>157382442
I love how she keeps messing with Touma its great
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>>157380881
Kirei Kotomine
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Fre nda was the best girl.
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Would be funny if what Terra meant when he said to Touma he's not using IB correctly is actually because he can use it like Riderman's Rope Arm.
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>>157381708
Touma is still the fool.

Aleister the Hanged man.
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>>157382507
>implying Kotomine wouldn't be making the Angra Mainyu argument in favor of Touma's right to exist, and that he cannot be blamed for being born
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Ded
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>>157382545
This kills the touma
>>157382605
Ded
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>>157382559
Touma died too much to be Fool, he is more like Death now.
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>>157382604
No anon, it means the one poster is a Kotomine.

Touma is a Shirou now mixed with Angry Manjew thanks to Aleister.
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>>157382642
You're taking the names to literally.
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>>157379804
>>157380107
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>>157382696
Accelerator is The Devil for nips.
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>>157382696
Can you please explain why WORST is Justice?
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>>157382696
Where would Kamisato be?
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>>157382559
>Aleister the Hanged man.
Why though, is it because you looked at the image? Accel fits the hanged man way more.
>>157382696
As shitty as the other chart. Please never post it again.
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>>157382745
The nips have a tarot equivalent for the characters too? Never knew that.
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>>157380433
>>157380917
but wasn't the fuckrey with phases and them colliding would eventually cause the sparks to kill his daughter anyway? he wanted to eliminate that by ending the cause to sparks and that included phases.

>So maybe it's all still keikaku doori somehow that Touma refused the world in NT9
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>>157382696
Did none of you ever play Persona?
The Tarot names don't correspond to what they mean.
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>>157382798
> Persona
> Using Crowley's Tarot
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>>157382642
Yuiitsu is a better fit for the Death card. Considering he whole thing is how the Loss of Noukan made her change for worse.
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>>157382832
her*
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>>157382388
>You didn't ask.
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>>157382818
There are Arcana that use the Thoth deck in Persona.
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>>157382818
I merely meant it to say don't just read the names and think that is what it means.

Cause both of those tables clearly look like it.
Star : Misaki
Judgement: Kuroko

...... of course ...
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>>157382442
I love her sense of humor, pretty amusing and beats othinus level.
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>>157380406
I don't remember who it was, but I ended up with a subbed version of the first season of Railgun that called the espers "adepts".

I mean, technically esper is a bullshit term too, but I like it more than "adept"
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>>157382492
She's bullying him because he likes bullying girls.

Literally perfect
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I'm no good at math but Mikoto's close range railgun actually be stronger than Accel's planetary rotation attack, or even FC Mikoto's huge lightning bolt?
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>>157379770
It still amazes me that for all the bitching about NT11, so few people actually read it. Misaki delivered a very Touma-esque speech to Mitsuari Ayu with this very style, so it's entirely possible it was her thoughts at verbatim, even if her and Misaka were ''tuned-in''. I agree with you about the Railgun part, even though a combination attack is by definition a shared effort.
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>>157383035
>but Mikoto's
but should mikoto's
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>>157382793
>>157382745
Whoever have it should post it here
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I want Mikoto's but
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Since Mikoto can fire Railguns, when will she fire plasma cannons? It uses the same concept except hot ionized gas as projectile
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>>157383038
to be fair NT11 is one of the most forgettable volumes in the series
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>>157380107
>>157382696
Have you considered that it might be easier to match the characters up properly if you used the Thoth Tarot instead of the normal one?
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>>157383035
Not necessary stronger but better at piercing WB.
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>>157382442
Between like and dislike, it's like.
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>>157383095
No Buts!
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>>157383111
Your puns are really mean Misaka.
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>>157383035
Its a tiny area carrying a lot of force, while Accel's was a large area carrying a fuckton of force
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>>157383119
What is even a difference?
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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Chapter_4#Part_5
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Epilogue
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Afterword
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Ending
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>The One Who Purifies God and Destroys Magic
So, is Touma going to make the lewd god Odin a Virgin again?
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>>157383203
GOD DAMN
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>>157383160
But it's been long established that the amount of force means nothing when it comes to breaking in.
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>>157379804
>The Fool: Fremea
>The Magician: Birdway
>The High Priestess: Index
>The Empress: Mizusu
>The Emperor: Katze
>The Hierophant: Agnese
>The Lovers: Shiage and Takitsubo
>The Chariot: Fiamma
>Adjustment: Acqua
>The Hermit: Aleister
>Wheel of Fortune: Kamisato
>The Passion: Gunha
>The Hanged Man: Himegami
>The Death: Othinus
>The Art: Tsuchimikado
>The Devil: Literally any Kihara
>The Tower: Accelerator
>The Star: Kaori
>The Moon: Izzard
>The Sun: Komoe-sensei
>The Aeon: Yakumi Hisako
>The Universe: Bersi
I don't know shit about tarot (much less Crowley's tarot) so I might be completely wrong.
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>>157383107
I've always wondered about even just using plasma as a closed range cutter. A railgun is an unwieldy tool for point blank combat.
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Hindu magic was mentioned in the novels right?
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>>157383203
I can't see the new parts of Chapter 4.
Help.
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>>157383245
Fräulein Kreutune is the closest one to The Fool, to be honest.
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>>157383203
quick permanent links please
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>>157383265
High temperatures might roast Misaka
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>>157383245
>>The Devil: Literally any Kihara
Enshuu is a ANGEL and best little sister
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>>157383293
>Now I'm motivated
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>Close range Railgun didn't do anything to Brunhild
>But a wet Railgun made a hole in the WB
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>>157383203
>js06 challenges Kamachi to write faster
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>>157383269
Yes, there was that one girl who could totally destroy the earth with Brahma Astra
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> Aleister once again BTFO by himself
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>>157383038
I can definitely see that, but I see Mikoto's influence too.
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>>157383203
Modified link pls
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>>157383311
>>157383438
I got this.
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Chapter_4&direction=next&oldid=519185#Part_5
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Epilogue&oldid=519274
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Afterword&oldid=519275
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume18_Ending&oldid=519276
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>>157383038
NT11 should've been an SS and didn't add anything to the main plot expect maybe few details. Personally it was the most forgettable(pun unintended) so I might not remember what she said exactly.

But I still think it was Mikoto concerning how it was directed and her situation since NT13, it was dwelling in her already to say this like narration stated.
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>>157383458
Thanks you're a life saver!
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>>157383203
>The whole volume in less than a week
Thank you based js06.
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>Aleister screwing himself was foreshadowed by him wanting Noukan to win
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>“I see,” spat out Aiwass in the tone of someone enjoying an accident. “Aleister, it would seem you have failed yet again.”
Kek
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>Mina was the AI Aleister talked to in NT5
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AIWASS IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
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... Well seems my chuuninbyou level is not high enough.
The sudden reveals, kinda seem crappy to me.
Could have taken, Laura is his daughter and she hates him because of well the shit he does

but no....


>Lola is Aleister's daughter, who is possesed by some devil thing
> witch girl is some clone or something of Aleister


Seems Kamaichi wants to finally end the series, with final battle and all..
But all I wanted was fun adventures of Styil and Touma beating Magicians, why Kamaichi, WHY?
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Wait, was Mina the one that accessed the AAA?
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>>157383593
> implying this is the end of series
> implying there would not be To aru majutsu no index: Book of Law
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Hey Js06, were you planning on changing Laura to Lola in the other volumes? If not, I'll end up doing it.
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>The one who stepped forward in the very, very end was the kind of normal high school boy once could find anywhere.
>the kind of normal high school boy once could find anywhere.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>157383676
>ctrl+f
>one typo
>not everything is changed
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>Aleister getting punched didn't solve the situation
Holy shit
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>>157383659
All of it points to
Gather all the forces, Attack on Laura (likely not killing her but releasing her from the posesson)

Maybe Lola will summon some big super thing, bring gods to earth whatever and they need to defeat it.
Finally reveal of dragon/IT
maybe some thing of it is sentient
'and now i have to go'
Kamijou is freed of IB maybe
and then end of series.

Honestly I can't see that Kamaichi afterwards continues with any fun adventures.
This is all going to the big final.

Will need to look for another fun series now.
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>>157383740
What?
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>>157383792
>he actually thinks its that simple
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>>157383806
One typo would render it not "completely changed" you may not notice it until you decide to reread the volumes.
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>>157383792
What if to defeat Laura whey would need to use Certain Magical Index?
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>>157383458

It's time!!!!!! KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE!!!!
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> Aneri is magic too
Well shit.
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>Nor can you maintain a quasi-immortal state by distorting the circulation of your life force using the attraction of an extremely great being like Westcott did
What?
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How can everyone start talking about how the vol is ending and everything when the translation was just posted, how fast in reading are you anons? I just started
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>>157383203
>I’ve taken a liking to the double high-class ladies. Combining is the romance of men. Learn to appreciate it.
>-Kamachi Kazuma

If you're gonna combine ojou samas, at least make the dazzling titty monster the primary body, rather than the plain if cute flattie, my man
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Keikaku doori
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>>157383776
Well yeah, only one Aleister got punched. Touma has to punch all billion Aleisters if he wants to take down Aleister for good.
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>“But I have to believe it’s true!! I have to believe that your daughter went to heaven!! I have to believe that it’s wrong if people aren’t rewarded in the afterlife if they didn’t do anything bad!! I don’t know what a soul is. I can’t explain where exactly heaven is. But I have to believe that it exists and that it mustn’t be taken away by someone on the outside! And that those of us left here have to treat those lives with respect!! This alone I can’t let anyone deny. Aleister Crowley, even if you’re her father, I won’t let you deny this!!”

What a good boy
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>>157383922
magibabble
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>>157383163
Couple of alternate cards, and I believe more than a couple of different meanings as well.
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CORONZON BTFO
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>>157383818
Only because think that have read somewhere that Kamaichi said that he wanted to go to the final part of the series.

Or even if its not, all what would stay as mystery is then IT,
The big secrets around Aleister, Lola and partly IB, got revealed, so what is left?

- Heaven Canceller
- IB (if there is still something left)
- IT/Dragon
- Kamijou (if he is anything special in the end)

- maybe vampires
- whatever gets newly introduced

If Kamaichi really wants to continue afterwards, he will really need to think about some new mysterious elements to introduce and all.

But I see him closing of the series with the cliche 'everyone ends up in the pure world wtih no ESP, Magic' the end
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>>157383792
thats too simple Kamachi goes beyond and goes crazy I doubt this is the end
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>“What kind of emergency? After today, I wouldn’t even be surprised to hear London had fallen.”
>She made a joke on a whim.
>But the very next moment…
>“You knew!? Word really does reach you fast!!”
My sides
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>>157384065
Okay I hope so but I got already burned plenty of times with other series.
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>Her family name of Stuart was borrowed from the true summoner’s obsession.
>Then what about the first name?
>Where had that come from?
>“Yes, yes. Poor Lola. The second daughter bound by the threads of fate to a failure of a madman.”
>“Damn you…”
>The blonde hair bound behind her head was so long that it fell to her hips even when folded over. Once she undid the pure gold clasp, it spread out like a glowing carpet and wriggled behind Lola’s back.
>The devil resides in women’s hair.
>This seemed to follow that old witch tradition.
>A giant and sinister demonic face appeared in the golden waterfall like a tattoo covering her entire back.
>She wrapped her arms tightly around the bewitching body contained inside the beige vestments and her back shook profanely as she laughed in mockery.
>This was the face a father least wanted to see.
It was also the face that a beloved daughter would least have wanted him to see.
>And as if to divulge it all…
>“She normally insulted you constantly, but in the end she was tearfully pleading for you: Father! Father!! Help me, father!!!!!!”
>“Damn yooooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!”

Eternally a suffering failure this man
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>>157384050
>Only because think that have read somewhere that Kamaichi said that he wanted to go to the final part of the series.
so you read bullshit and now you think it applies now? even when you can clearly see the afterword yourself, it's not the finale yet
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>Someone spoke within Academy City.

>“Nhuh? What is it, Aneri? My smartphone’s just flashing ‘warning, warning’, but that doesn’t tell me anything.”


>And somewhere else, someone else spoke.

>“…What a pain in the ass. What dumb piece of shit decided to spying on me was a good idea?”

Oh shit its time for the 3 heroes again
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So a third of the world's population isn't crowley

Crowley just spat out billion people after he died
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>>157384050
What if Kamachi reveals more characters with IB?
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>>157384128
Will femCrowley have a bewitching body as well?
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>>157384152
Who was spying on Accel?
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>>157384132
Does the afterword says anything about wanting to continue the series for many volumes?
NO

so fuck off, for all I know it could end with next volume.

Though of course it wont but don't speak like you know fuck about it.
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>>157384268
>Though of course it wont but don't speak like you know fuck about it.
>you're right but please pretend that you aren't :(
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>>157384242
No clue could be one of Aleister possibility
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>do nothing aside from blowing up some chains with your hair though 40 volumes
>finally do shit
>get outsmarted by Aleister
Will Coronzon ever recover?
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>>157384180
That would be fanfiction-tier
REALLY fanfiction-tier

I could get some fanfics of syousetu, well most of them are with OC protas and half of those are again cheap self-inserts but that just shows it is fanfiction-tier.
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>>157384268
Are you stupid? That's the exact opposite logic he would use.
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I didn't really like Touma's speech this time but I don't know why.
Maybe because the whole "Lilith might be in heaven" argument seemed kind of retarded.
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>>157383245
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>Aiwass is from the pure world
Ok I know Crowley seems to have the best intentions but when out only representatives of the pure world are Aiwass and Coronzon I feel like going back there might not be a good plan.

It seems odd to me that Aiwass called osiris aeon and christian magic old. If Aiwass is pure world wouldn't that mean that him and Horus magic existed before current magic?
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>>157384350
Cut him a break, he can't improvise a golden speech every time.
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>>157384350
It was absolute bullshit and both he and Crowley knew it. That's why. Poor kid has to have something to get him out of the bathtub in the morning though.
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>>157383476
>But I still think it was Mikoto concerning how it was directed and her situation since NT13, it was dwelling in her already to say this like narration stated.
The entire flow of the narration, not to mention the line that directly alludes to Misaki's situation regarding Touma pretty much spell it out for you. Misaka definitely shared the sentiment, but those were definitely Misaki's words.
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>Laura's hair blows up chains in OT18
>this is all we get to setup the demon being in her hair
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>>157384368
Aeons aren't defined by simple time
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still in the end of ch4
>Aleister is showing emotion
>Mina is AI
>Misaka is actually helping in a major way

Shit is going down
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>>157384350
NT9 beats out this volume just because of much better "it bothers me" is than that speech.
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>>157384331
My arguemtn was we cant be sure this is not the final arc.

His argument was the afterword says clearly it will continue for how long.

So my somewhat expressed badly was
even then we cant be sure, 'it might just end tomorrow' because Kamaichi hasn't said how long he intends the series to be.
But of course I don't think it will end already with the next volume.
Even so it doesn't that we can't be sure that this is the final arc.
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I get the feeling Coronzon will somehow use Ladylee next volume and I doubt she will enjoy it.
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>>157384457
>His argument was the afterword says clearly it will continue for how long.
It's amazing how you manage to miss the point entirely, if we were in the "final arc" then the afterword would fucking talk about it being the final arc of the entire series
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>>157384319
Speaking of fanfics

Are there any good ones?
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>Aneri was Mina
AAAAAAAAAAA
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>>157384404
He better prepare a better speech for their second fight.
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>>157383203
Do it Touma. Punch the Crowley! Punch all the Crowleys!
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Do you guys think Kamachi has done a good job with Mikoto's character since NT13?
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>>157384490
>bunny was actually a cat
WHAT A TWIST
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>>157384508
she is more cock hungry does that count as good character?
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>Touma knocked out Crowley with one punch
Is Tsuchi really the toughest non saint human magician?
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>>157384447
I prefer this one over NT9, we don't need long_ass speeches to have a great vol. This small one summed up everything
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>WW4 is 1 billion Aleisters vs the world
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>>157384508
Honestly, it felt kind of annoying for her to get all the focus just because she feels she isn't strong enough to stand by Touma0s side when 90% of his harem probably feels the same way.
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>>157384486
Are you sure, I know plenty of mangas, other novels which didn't say this.
Of course this is the first Kamaichi series am reading, so this might be the rule.
Well if it is like that, then I am sorry.
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>inb4 Aleister recorded his conversation with Touma about all the tragedies in AC being intentional and sent it to everyone in the city
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>>157384508
Honestly it feels like an excuse to have her around. She still hasn't really done much and plenty of people have helped Touma without needing to be super powerful
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This is news from last month but now it has come to light, Toaru Kagaku no Railgun will have an original novel to celebrate its tenth anniversary!

*There is no publication date yet.
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>>157384504
I do like that Crowley didn't waver in the slightest with Touma's bullshit. These two will either have to join forces or fight to the death. No other option is really left for two people who follow their Thelema so intensely.
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>We will also receive backup from Aneri, the version of the Reading Thoth 78, aka Mina Mathers, which I had spread throughout the city after lowering it to a consumer level.
>Aleister has made grimoires a consumer product
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>>157384350
It's not that she might be in heaven, it's that she must be in heaven, and that he couldn't let Crowley do his thing because once mysticism is gone, then she really would just be a rotting corpse, along with his other argument that the random fortune the phases cause makes up for the misfortune
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>Aleister got memed by an AI and Misaka
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>>157384622
>hasn't really done much
Have you already forgotten her going full spidergirl and saving Touma from Yuitsu?
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Cum on Othinus while she sleeps
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>>157384588
The only time a author doesn't state when he's ending shit is when he is either feeling like a cunt(or for a "comedy" just for fun) or it gets canceled.
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>>157383593
In RL Crowley was attempting to summon the demon Coronzon.
Just now it got revealed that Mathers had summoned it first and it simply pretended to show up when crowley did the summoning which killed his second daughter because keeping your daughter nearby during a demon summoning isn't a retarded idea.

The clones thing got explained by anons a night or two ago where the last hurdle in the book of law is to be killed by Coronzon to reach one with the universe or some crap.
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>MC trio is going to be back next volume
HOLY FUCK NT19 CAN'T COME ANY SOONER
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>>157384685
>You'll never princess carry Touma
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So Aneri was magic this whole time
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>>157384623
>that hand sign
Lewd Misaka
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>>157383922
He's leeching off of Kawaiiss for immortality i think.
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>>157384489
Japanese fanfics, depends on what you want to read about.

99% is pure shit, just like everything you find onf fanfiction.net

If you hate Touma, want to see him fail, being not in the spotlight, this might be for you
とある幻想殺しの地獄巡礼
https://novel.syosetu.org/111858/

Personally don't think the author understood enough Kamijou's Personality, especially cause he admitted to have read only like the first volume of the series.
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Considering how that fight went I think Aiwass has magic god tier offense but not all the other bullshit powers which is where it falls. That being said I am certain it and Coronzon are absolute in the pure world where they live naturally and that it is nerfed like all summons are.

also magic gods > Crowley

Crowley is the Hamazura of magicians, able to punch above his weight class thanks all the planning.
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>>157384623
Hopefully it won't be a short one like that Misaki SS.
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>>157384759
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>>157384686
She might drown
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So what happened to the short story that came with NT18?
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So with the reveal of Crowley's power, doesn't this mean we now have to put him below the Magic Gods?
He's not stronger than them, it's just that he has the perfect trick against them
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>>157384832
it was a short story of Touma and Index fighting over furniture I think
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>>157384853
Well he's above them after nerf
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>>157384853
I mean it is kind of like Fiamma's win button so he might be fine where he is. Your imagination times ten is still pretty fucking ridiculous.
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>>157384853
>>157384911
Given the nature of the blasting rod he should be visually below them but given a blue boarder like 50/50 othinus.

>>157384893
the thing doesn't take in account their nerf forms largely because we would need ten more boxes.
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>>157384944
Every Aleister should be given its own individual box.
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>>157384893
nerf doesn't get a box, just like how fairy Othinus doesn't have one.
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>>157384350
It was the opening statement about heaven that fucked it up for me. Ignoring it, the rest of the speech was fine, one of the better ones in fact. Turning Aliesters own ice-cold worldview on his daughter in order to throw him off was an excellent strategy. You could tell Touma was taking advantage of what he'd learnt from his journey. It was just a bit of an uphill climb after that weak opening line.
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>>157384696
Kamachi didn't say anything at the epilogue of volume 8 of Zashiki Warashi either. It was the summary of the vol.9 that stated that the series's going to end.

So according to your logic, Zashiki was canned huh?
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>tfw you kept up with the series long enough to witness Aleister get the legendary punch
I waited years for this moment and the twists that immediately followed are amazing. We're back to peak Raildex again.
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>>157384158
>The population of the earth just increased by one billion over the span of the day
>They are all crazy magicians that can who knows what and going to war with a true demon

This planet is officially fucked.
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So all the Crowley do their own thing? He said something about them not working together, which one will rule england?

Is hospital gown Aleister what the collective looks like and they get their own appearance as they split?
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>“Tell me, rejecter of the mystical. What happened to Lilith afterwards!? Do you just plug in all the scientific equations and say she rotted below the dirt as a mass of protein that’s life functions had stopped!? Declining times when you have nothing to rely on and an age of equal misfortune can’t be easy. But is it equal and fair to tell a dying child to crawl back up on her own? Even if fortune and misfortune are being manipulated by an outside force, can’t we fill that gap if everyone shares their good fortune with those in need!? Well!!!???”

>This was what the avenger had lacked.

>He could be cold-hearted. He did not need to have great courage. But if he had believed that the vanished life was smiling in heaven, he most likely would not have had to resort to revenge.

>He would not have had to destroy the Golden cabal.

>He would not have had to kill his former friends and teachers.

>…He may have seen no reason for those dreadful acts and been forgiven at some point.

Screw you Touma with your speech and punching Alesiter!
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>>157384357
>Othinus
>The emperor
Othinus entire thing was finding someone who could understand her, and her job in the story itself was basically making Touma go through The Tower, while she was The Devil.

Othinus can't be anything but The lovers, in case you want to look at her as an individual, or The Devil/The Tower, if you look at her from Touma's journey
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>>157385029
>Zashiki Warashi
Literally a series he didn't know how it would end, a literal experiment in a sense.
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>>157385082
Stop slacking, and get back to conquering England, it's because of all of these sidetrips that you keep taking that the IB-boy still isn't cooked to perfection
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>>157385095
Odin is always Emperor.
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Js06, if you changed Laura's name now don't do so with the previous vols, it makes more sense to leave it exciting with this twist for when others read the novel.
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>>157385137
SO Kamachi is a hacked then.
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>>157385191
Ah, so that's why you used the Persona cards.
So the cards themselves dont have any meaning?
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>>157385217
It was always meant to be Lola
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>>157385191
Odin is nothing but Hanged Man.

The Hanged Man Arcana was created based off the myth of Odin.
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>As reference material for the magic in this volume, Magick in Theory and Practice (by Aleister Crowley, translated by Shima Hiroyuki, Uematsu Yasuo, and Eguchi Koretaka) and Liber 777 (by Aleister Crowley, translated by Eguchi Koretaka) were very useful. Thank you for the excellent reference material.
Thank you Kamachi for putting these stuff in. I appreciate reference books.
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>>157385234
Some are jokes, others had more thought put into them. Odin and Thor were certainly jokes. Himegami as well. Tsuchimikado started out as a joke but he fit Temperance surprisingly well to the point that I was a bit disappointed.

Incidentally, the reason for the choice in characters was because I limited myself to exclusively using characters that had illustrations in the New Testament volumes.
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>>157385217
As per the line, her name was always meant to be exactly the same as Crowley's daughters name, it wouldn't be accurate to what the author intended if we tried to treat it as another twist
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>>157385137
So he make shit up along the way when he wrote that series? and when he can't find a way to continued he just ditched it off?

Wow, what a shitty writer.
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>“You can whine about your daughter all you want, but aren’t you being a tad coldhearted? Aleister, I know you’re well aware you were far from the sort of moral man who would wed only the one wife throughout his life. You married multiple times and you also had mistresses. And so Lilith was not your only daughter. Hm? Well? Do you still not recognize my name???”

“It…can’t be.”

“You look like you can’t figure out how you never remembered it before now. Now, one more thing. It’s time for a review. You absolutely detested Mathers. Not only was he an excellent magician, but he also called himself a highlander and hoped to restore an old royal house. So much so that it troubled the other cabal members. Now. Then. Which royal house was that?””

“…The House of Stuart… No, it can’t be, no!!”

“Well, reflecting his desires when choosing a temporary name was more of a special service for him. You seem to have thought you summoned me at a later date, but I was actually already summoned before that.”

Only one thing came to mind here.

Memories of the desert came flooding back.

After discovering an abyss which could not be passed even when binding the tarot cards with a path, he had summoned a demon to cross that abyss, but he had realized his own failure and commanded it to leave.

In a way, that name was as meaningful as Holy Guardian Angel Aiwass’s and perhaps even more so.

“…Coron…zon…?”


HYPPPPE
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> (Not to mention that the “real” magic they used was not the kind that let them shoot fire or fly around on a broom.)
>Implying Casting Kick while using God expulsing Lucifer from Heaven as Idol Theory isn't amusing as fuck
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>in the battle against aleister
>all touma thinks is how he can punch him
seriously is his speech one of hi bullshits so that he can just punch aleister?
touma pls
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>>157385191
>>157385252
You do know the cards have a meaning not precisely related to their name? Not to mention that Odin from the myths and Othinus have different personalities and roles so you can't use the same cards for both of them.
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So I assume Aleister (female) is going to kidnap Touma's crew and go to England while Accel/Shiage take care of things within AC?
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>>157385346
That was the point. ZW was him making a series that he didn't know how to end, when he wrote the first volume. It was an experiment, he even said so.
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>>157385443
Which is why I specifically said Odin and not Othinus.
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>>157385453
Reread it. Touma and Accel are needed to reach Aiwass' core. Aleister may grab all 3 of them and fuck off to England after NT19.
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>But the source was far away. This was the sound of destruction in some other place.

>Aleister shouted the answer.

>“An attack from outside… The A.A.A.’s usurper!?”
Did Aleister really thought she died back there?
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>>157385495
Well, Shiage is just another hole in Aleister's plans, its not like Aleister NEEDS him. Just Touma and Accel.
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>>157385517
He's surprised that Mina accessed the AAA and used it against him.
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>>157385517
Nigga was busy preparing his home for guests
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>>157385453
Aleister is probably only taking Touma and probably Accel since he also has a part in reaching Aiwass' core. Super Hamazura is probably going to go through hell in AC while Mikoto hunts Touma like a bloodhound.
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>>157385533
well Aleister need Aneri and guess who has her
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>>157385533
Yeah he'll probably just try to get Touma and Accel while Shiage somehow gets included or follows them there for some reason.
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>>157385346
The point of Zashiki Warashi was for Kamachi to write "Everything he wanted to write at that moment" while giving it a decently conclusive ending every volume and som foreshadowing somewhere in the middle in case he wanted to follow it up with more. The only exception were volumes 6 and 7 because Kamachi got out of control and wrote it as a single volume but I guess Dengeki didn't want Kamachi to do a Kawakami-sized book.
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I went full autism with the tarot and numerology but I still don't know what the fuck those numbers Aleister uses for his spells are.
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>>157385555
>Mikoto hunts Touma like a bloodhound.
must suck for Misaka she does all this shot and she sees Touma get taken away by another girl at the last moment
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>Download app from AC store
>Its very cute and you can customize her
>Suddenly read one of her logs and get massive headache + start bleeding all over my body
Ahhhhhh!!!
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So, NT19's cast is sounding like:
>Touma
>Accel
>Hamazura
>Aleister
>Coronzon(?)
>Aiwass
>Mikoto
>Misaki

Anything else? I assume we may see the absolute deepest darkness of the city if Aiwass is the center of it.
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>>157385461
Surely he must have some sort of ending in his mind when he wrote the volume right before the end.
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>>157385614
Wait coudl this the be the moment we have all been waiting for?
A Trap has entered Kamiijou's harem!!!
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>>157385536
I thought Mina stalling for time was because she was waiting until Aleister failed (again) somehow, not because she accessed the AAA
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>>157385637
Seems like too much of a clusterfuck, I think the PoV will switch to Accel and Shiage for a volume.
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>>157385637
Othinus and index
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>>157385677
It's not a trap if she is a female version of Crowley.
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>>157385677
>Trap
There's no dick there.
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>>157385682
No, since Mina is also an AI, she is the one who accessed the AAA and put Touma's name and location in there. She already knew the rest would happen because Aleister simply cannot succeed.
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>Crowley uses the Blasting Rod
>you expect him to fail because he is a fuckup
>he fucks up 10 times worse than usual
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>>157385637
I think they would at least try to contact Birdway.
So she might just appear for a short moment at the end.

>>157385718
>>157385720
Of course but the original is male, so even if she looks female, she was originally MALE,


Well then Transgender female or whatever term makes you happy
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>>157385771
You don't seem to understand how this works
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>>157385771
No, she is like a female AU version of Aleister, that doesn't count as a trap, a trans character or anything.
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>>157385771
No, it's a girl.
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>>157385771
again its female not transgender or anything else just female anon
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>>157385591
So is he able to just ended the series whenever he wanted to? Looking from the anon who claimed he didn't say anything in vol.8 epilogue because he still didn't want to end it yet, Kamachi must have pretty unstable mind to just suddenly ended it.
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>>157385771
She's just a girl anon. No need to think any deeper.
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>>157385796
>>157385798
>>157385799
But after having read about Alesiter and the 'things'
he did I can't see any of his versions as a girl.
It is a curse.
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>>157385806
That's exactly because he didn't know where he was going with it. Because once again that was the point. It was a series that could've ended any volume by design. That's the experiment.
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>>157385806
Kamachi literally does whatever the fuck he wants and experiments with any ideas that pop up in his mind.
As long as he puts the obligatory waifu doing shti scene once per volume, Miki doesn't give a fuck.
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>>157380060
>That chest
BY GOD
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>>157385856
Just because a girl enjoys writing erotic fanfiction of her friends and making cookies with her love juices doesn't mean she isn't a girl.
Also, reminder she is probably going nopan.
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>>157385806
Look, he started it without knowing how it would end, he even knows how Index will end.
He did what he wanted, it was a experiment for him to try shit and he was done with it on vol 9
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>>157385904
No, please no
'instead of a cute girl imagines a bishounen Aleister in girls clothing, no pan riding on his broom.'

NOOO
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>>157385947
>actions
You need to go back
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>>157385637
Tsuchimikado and Fran since Aleister took over UK and they were planning to go there
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>>157385947
Fuck off already
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>>157385760
>“Now, now. How many times does it have to be said? Aleister Crowley does not care if he succeeds or fails. If I succeed, that’s wonderful. If I fail, I use that to continue forward. That is the plan based on my Thelema. So why did you relax just because you had won? It is true I did not arrive at the truth of Lola and Coronzon. You can even say I failed from the moment I had to once more dirty my hands with that loathsome magic. But did you really think you could change the trend I had created just because I did not know the answer and you outwitted me???”

Aleister has to be one of the most hard working and impressive antagonists I have seen so far. This son of a bitch is a cosmic plaything taken up to 11, and does everything in his power to weaponizes it. This guy is a golden standard to aspire to in terms of determination and dedication. I look forward to every batshit insane thing he does from here on out.
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>>157380433

>Touma rejected a world where Motoharu and Maika are getting married in the spring
>Touma rejected a world where Etzali meets a Misaka imouto who loves him for who he is
>Touma rejected a world where Izzard was still a decent guy and was getting food for his friends while they played in the park
>Touma rejected a world where Aogami isn't a rapist and instead goes around saving girls like Touma but instead of punching them & rebinding their red string to fate to him he sets them on the correct path to finding their true loves
>Touma rejected a world where Fremea gets to spend time with Ritoku, Frenda, and Shiage at the same time
>Touma rejected a world where Himegami is relevant
>Touma rejected a world Sasha isn't drunk all the time and being molested by a Russian nun with a cosplay fetish
>Touma rejected a world with Casual Vento
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>>157385683
How horrifying
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>>157385984
I can see them popping up a few times but not really gonna have many scenes.
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>>157385974
>>157385992
Whatever, some people don't just pretend because something has a female body it is now a girl and okay to fap to.

Just lke Ranko in Ranma also always saw as guy, because originally was a male.
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And so, Aleister has joined the harem. Thank you and good night.

Come to think of it, isn't Touma now an Understander of Aleister as well? He seems unusually well-tuned to that human's thought process.
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Mina is most based character by far in this volume.
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>>157386016
>Etzali and an imouto
>implying it wouldn't be about Xochitl being happy with, and trying to win over her onii-chan
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>>157386073
Not too hard when the other support characters didn't do shit.
Still based, though.
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Rate it.

10/10 for me.
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>>157386070
Does that mean, Kamijou is actually just as much of a pervert as Aleister?
This would explain his smell fetish at least.
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>>157386082
>the imouto is Xochitl wearing an imouto's skin
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>>157386082

Etzali won't be happy unless someone named Misaka loves him.
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>>157385865
>>157385869
Now this seems like the kind of thing fanboi would say. He still have many idea regarding the series left, the short story in his website is the proof of that, he can crammed it in between the volume if he want to, but didn't.

He may just wanted to finish the main storyline when he think up bloodstained Zashiki, the fact that he didn't say anything at vol.8 epilogue might just be because he just didn't bother.
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>>157386016
>Touma rejected a world with Casual Vento
That mother fucker, put him back in the humus pit.
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>>157386107
9/10
The Aleister vs Touma confrontation was kind of shit but the volume as a whole was pretty good.
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>>157380107
The fuck is this shit?
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>>157386050
Aleister didn't change gender, he just had all of those people as him. There's a reason why Aleister was both men and women, sinner and saint, child and adult, etc. in his description before.

Think of it like this instead: in another universe, you were a girl instead of a boy.
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So... When exactly Aleister plan went wrong?
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>>157386129
>Now this seems like the kind of thing fanboi would say
You fucking retard, what they posted is literally what he said himself
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>>157386163
The moment he was born
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>>157386146
There wasn't enough buildup. Touma only heard Aleister's name for the first time this volume. It was all too abrupt.
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Reminder.
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>>157386120
It could be Misaka's dad you know.
Thatll scare the little fucker.
>Captcha: Residence wishes

>Etzali
>any female misaka
Not happening, not on my watch.
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>>157386163
Around the time he fucked himself with the "always fail" spell just to kill two old farts.
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>>157386107
Fucking 10/10 for me too, this was hype as fuck. Can't wait for what NT19 have in store.
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>>157386194
That Aleister was never meant to be the big bad for Touma to face.
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>“Now, now. How many times does it have to be said? Aleister Crowley does not care if he succeeds or fails. If I succeed, that’s wonderful. If I fail, I use that to continue forward. That is the plan based on my Thelema. So why did you relax just because you had won? It is true I did not arrive at the truth of Lola and Coronzon. You can even say I failed from the moment I had to once more dirty my hands with that loathsome magic. But did you really think you could change the trend I had created just because I did not know the answer and you outwitted me???”

Hahahahaha Alesiter my man! Keikaku doori
I'm still mad Touma punched him tho
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>>157386073
She was nice. Hopefully she returns somehow to mess with both Touma and Aleister some more.
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>>157386163
The moment he conceived it

Just like Lilith
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>>157386194
Yeah but he also got an entire exposition about his past, motivation, goal, etc.
By this point he probably knows more about Aleister than 90% of the people whose illusions he has broken in the past.
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> Aiwass is the angel of the bottommost layer…that is, of the world of pure physical laws.
What does it mean?! She is more powerful than Magic Gods or what?
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>>157386107
8/10
Touma botched it up at the end.
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>>157386255
She's probably going to be helping Coronzon.
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Misaka a shit
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>>157386258
Fuck you. I'll murder you and your phase.
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>>157386268
>She
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>>157386268
I swear to God, what is it with some people and their obsession with seeing everything in terms of powerlevels?
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>>157386158
Yeah, I guess .... still somewhat confusing,
until now the different universes we got introduced to were just different phases.
The perfect world and everything Othinus created, every person was only controlled by something like some highly advanced AI really, they were not really real in that sense or a alternatve version.

So where does this paralell universum in which Aleisteri is a cut little girl come from?
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>>157386107
>7/10
not enough suffering and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa's
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>>157386164
It may be in the beginning, I would 100% trust this in the Aoandon arc, man that shit was curtainly seems like the thing someone who don't know how to go next would write.

But not bloodstainded Zashiki though, that arc has a clear ending from the start.
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how does Misaka feel now that another girl came and saved Touma?
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>>157386107
2/10
Aleistairs Crowley jobbed too hard.
Turns out he is some loser pervert.
Totally ruined his character for me.
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Isn't Lola completely ignorant of anything related to technology? How is she going to run the most scientific city in the world?
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Reminder that Coronzon-chan did literally nothing wrong. She just wanted to fulfill the contract and become a free woman (demon).
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I hope Kamachi slows up on Crowley's planning power. I know plan has been going like 2k years and he plans for both victory and defeat. But I feel like it could easily go overboard with how much stuff he had contingencies for. He legit didn't know about Crono and still had a plan work at just the right time.
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>>157386323
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>>157386310
How about you read the fucking volume and stop using that retarded format for your posts?
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>>157386107
> 8/10
I expected a more flashy confrontation with him.
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>>157386107
pretty good for an opening of an arc
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>>157386324
>falling for Coronzon's tricks
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>>157386310
> ....
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>>157384661
>>Aleister has made grimoires a consumer product
That was the Golden Dawn's goal, after all.
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>>157386318
>i don't know what I'm talking about
when he fucking ended the series he said exactly what he did from the very start in the afterword, you sit your ass down and read it then you go and argue with the computer on if it actually "planned ahead" or not.
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>>157386202
Wait... What was a point of this?
Could he just use other dark magic?
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>>157384724
I don't think Lola was around when Crowley did his attempted summoning, Coronzon just hopped into her body later on down the line.
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>>157386323
>implying Aleister hasn't been jobbing from the start
The difference is that all of those were taken into account.
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>>157386364
Didn't think of it like that. Nice catch.
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How AC army can attack London if city destroyed by elements?
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>>157386377
It seems only Spiritual Tripping was strong enough to defeat Wescott and Mathers and only because he has IB too.
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>>157384350
Which is the best Touma speech?
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>>157386344
>How about you read the fucking volume and stop using that retarded format for your posts?
I already read the volume, thank you.
Doesn't mean you are able to undertand everything at once.
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>>157386411
Where do you think the 1 billion Aleisters are?
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>>157386411
>AC army
speedreader detected
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> Make core part of your plan AI out of the girl that hated him enough to betray
Guy practically set up himself to lose this one.
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>>157386416
"It bothers me" > his speech to Fiamma > that one time he BTFO the shota Russian Pope
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>>157386324
Delegation, baby
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>>157386473
>delegating on a bunch of crazy retards who were intentionally made to act like shounen villains
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>a punch didn't end it
>in fact the punch was keikaku doori
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>>157386459
I agree with this one, poor Shota Patriarch really got the worst end of Touma speeches.
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>>157386517
>poor
He was a smug faggot and he deserved it.
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> summon a demon to completely ruin some guy life
Wow! This Mathers guy is a complete faggot.
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>>157386444
In 444 different locations of course.
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Was Touma ever shown to even believe in the afterlife? Because it feels like he suddenly decided he believed in that shit so he could call Aleister a faggot and punch him.
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>>157386564
I'm pretty sure seeing a fucking archangel makes you a believer, if not NT9.
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>Aleister conquering the leafs and the aussies
Wasn't he supposed to be the bad guy?
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>>157386366
No need to get mad dude. I believed that he just make up shit along the way, but surly not in the volume right before it end, I even reread the afterwards just for you and didn't see the part where he talk about how he just suddenly wanted to end the series in vol.9 anywhere.
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>>157386416
it bothers me speech is always the best
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>>157386107
8.5 It was a bit much of a plot dump at times. Felt lost sometimes due to some of the magibabble.
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>>157386564
>Has seen a fucking angel and fought against one
Its safe to say that religion is pretty fucking real
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>>157386586
Actually, finding out that the gods of literally every religion exists would probably convince you that Heaven isn't a thing unless there a a bajillion different kinds of afterlife.
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>>157384350
The point was that he wasn't going to accept there's nothing after life because that'd leave the dead as nothing but corpses to decay and disappear. That was just wishful thinking of his, but if Aleister succeeds on his plan then there'd be no doubt left that the dead were exactly just that.
More importantly, he just wanted Aleister to have some respect for his dead daughter and stop fucking shit up for everyone.
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>>157386547
Considering Crowley did the exact same thing to him, except with magic taking the place of the Demon all's fair
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>>157386645
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>>157386564
He's known an angel since volume 4, and has meet gods, it'd be dumber if he was an atheist who didn't believe in the afterlife
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>>157386385
Possibly, but given her last words and how she is now I would think she was.
Crowley fucked up hard, Coronzon knows how said daughter died, and the body itself has no decomposition.
That's a pretty tight schedule Coronzon had to maintain and we know Crowley's methods for summoning beings from the pure world involves possession. It's not certain but it does seem fairly reasonable to say that's what happened with the information we have.
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>>157384661
It's funny. Even there, Touma stands above Hamazura.

Before, Hamazura was unique in that he had an AI waifu. But now Touma has the original template AI as his ally.
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>>157383934
So this what he meant by this sentence? I was confused.
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>>157386645
> unless there a a bajillion different kinds of afterlife.
There are. Phases, remember?
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>>157386645
No matter what term you use, there's no way a sinless child would suffer a terrible fate in the afterlife, no matter whose afterlife it is
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Aleister rejecting Touma really lived up to the fact that he already had his illusions destroyed. And him bouncing right back and better than before was even better. One of the strongest endings of a volume in all of Index for me.
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>>157386645
> bajillion different kinds of afterlife
It's simple. Once you die, bajillion copies of you are faxed out in all possible afterlives. So there will be you in Valhalla, in Hades, in Hell, etc.
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>>157386702
>tfw you realize endgame Fiamma could probably beat normal Crowley

Too bad he needs a fucking ton of shit just to be at the level he was before taking IB.
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>>157385771
Biologically Female
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>yfw next volumes is going to be three mc style again
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>>157386738
Mikoto and Misaki.
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>>157386708
Yeah, Touma's no Mikoto.
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>>157385806
HO is similar to ZW or what?
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>>157386564
> he suddenly decided he believed in that shit so he could call Aleister a faggot and punch him
That is how Touma typically works, anon. He isn't the hero of justice, he just punches people who bother him too much with made up excuses.
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>>157386805
Even fucking Frenda could take on Crowley, not because of skill but because something would happen that would make Crowley lose.
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>>157386808
It was bound to happen again. Anyone that said otherwise was being an idiot.
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>>157386708
If there is afterlife why nobody resurrected people?
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>>157386763
Unless it's the Norse afterlife. Didn't die in battle? Sucks to be you, you go to Niflheim.
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>>157384350
Me neither. I'm purely on Alesiter's side, Touma didn't understand the whole point of it or how Alesiter thinks even after the flashbacks.
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>>157386784
Why not launch people at mach 10 speeds.
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>>157386763
>go to Christian afterlife
>Oh, your father was a heretic and you weren't baptized? TO HELL YOU GO
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>>157386860
Not quite. HO is entirely episodic, you can pick it up at any volume and be good to go. ZW was made so it could end at any volume, but Kamachi still made sure to include some foreshadowing in the volumes so he could follow up on it if he decided to continue. There's a continuity in Zashiki Warashi, while in HO you have one volume taking place in May and the following volume taking place in March.
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>>157386805
Blasting Rod > Holy Right
Crowley is good at using the power of enemy against them.
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>>157386016
>Touma rejected a world with Casual Vento

This ticked me off

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>157386547
Nope. Alister was an actual faggot that took the credit for everything he did while shoving the blame on Mathers for Crowley's crimes and going out to not only crush his life but curse his life's work too. Crowley deserved that entirely.
>>157386899
Because Crowley is a fucking dumbass.
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>>157386763
If you are unbaptized then you go to Hell or are stuck in Limbo
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>>157384409
I need Js06 to confirm this. The Japanese narration could explain it better.
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>>157386860
They are pretty similar.

The only real difference is HO literally have no plot.
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>Vento's punishment spell doesn't work touma because IB
>Holy right can't make the proper power to beat touma because ib
>same with Terra's bullshit

>blasting rod works perfectly at all times

Wow crowley is such a cheater
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>>157386564
It isn't like Crowley was wrong about phases being made up bullshit, to be honest. It is just in To Aru, illusions can be dangerously real.
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>>157386906
Touma went and fixed that in a crossover several months ago.
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>>157387024
>1907+110
>STILL using Aeon of Osiris magic
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>>157387024
The dude knows exactly how IB works, of course he'd know how to use the Blasting Rod to bypass it.
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>blasting rod is basically useless for anyone without Crowley level reputation
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>>157387024
> crowley is such a cheater
It was clear when he pussied out of fair 1 vs 999 fight against magic gods.
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>>157386979
Actually, Holy Right is stronger than Blasting Rod.
Blasting Rod needs Crowley's opponent to at least think about how strong he is to have an effect while Holy Right seems to be a kind of automatic thing which means Fiamma can swing his right hand without giving a single thought to his oppponent's strenght and even if he does Holy Right would become strong enough to surpass the x10 power-up without him even knowing it.
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>>157386938
Dude, fuck off. Aleister's vendetta doesn't justify the mountain of corpses and mourners. You care more about the anger of a single madman than you do about the tears of thousands of innocents.
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>>157387114
TIME FOR SUPER HAMAZURA BITCHES
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>>157387114
Or people that don't believe in magic. It probably wouldn't do shit against Mikoto.
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>>157384623
Great. This better be a good wacky one not some moe adventures
also,
>Kamachi writing more
my man is addicted
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>>157386416
What everyone has posted already, but I also really liked his speech in NT13.

>“It was because Misaka was with me that I made it this far. She kept my trembling legs moving, supported my heart as the pressure bore down on it, and kept me in a position to make jokes. With Index, things may have been too focused on magic. With Othinus, it would have been exclusively about Magic Gods and having a clear understanding of their strength might have crushed me with despair. It was because it was Misaka. I survived this long because she was the one by my side. She saved my life and you want me to tell her to back off because she’s in the way? Who the hell do you think you are!? You don’t understand the first thing about the human emotion of this human world, but you’re trying to act like some all-knowing god!!!!!!”

>“So take it back, you piece of shit Magic God!! If you badmouth the person who saved my life any more, I’ll go punch you just like you want!!”

>“I don’t care if you’re covered in magma or if you’re over one thousand degrees! Imagine Breaker? I don’t need that for you and I don’t care if it doesn’t work on you! I don’t care if my fist melts away or if my entire body bursts into flames. Yeah, if you don’t shut that filthy mouth of yours right this instant, I’ll keep punching you until you finally do!!!!!!”
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>>157387134
> mountain of corpses and mourners
That wasn't caused by him. He directly only killed like one magic god and that is it.
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>>157384623
More Misaka vs magicians?
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>>157387152
Seriously, what's he gonna do, try to fight magicians in a construction mech?
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>>157387114
Wouldn't it work anyway? If I tell someone I'm going to punch him in the face, he will think I have a normal guy's strenght, which would cause BR to give me ten times the strenght of a normal guy.
Also, what would happen if BR was used on Touma?
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>>157387134
Either anons are extremely gullible or Crowley is shitposting everywhere this volume.
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>>157387154
He can just say that it is a scientific weapon for retards like Mikoto to expect the unexpected.
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Would Blasting Rod works against machines?
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>>157387185
Did you miss the part where he admitted he made AC into a shithole for the sake of Touma's development?
You could say Aleister is justified or that the end justifies the means but claiming he didn't do anything wrong is stupid.
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>>157387200
> Misaka shown all Crowley flashbacks somehow
> still doesn't believe in magic
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>>157387273
>SO YOU ARE TELLING ME THERE WERE ESPERS POWERS BACK IN 1900?
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Why are Saints so shit?
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>>157387272
But in the end, AC did more good than harm, so it isn't that black and white as you want it to be, without some killed children there would never be amazing technologies that entire world relied upon.
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>>157387273
>Man those old men were some real chuunis
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>>157387272
It is official now, Aleister in all his glory is shitposting here
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>>157387317
You are talking as if it was necessary for children to die in order for that technology to be developed which is a fucking lie.
We haven't seen a single fucked up experiment carried out by AC that led to anything but more fucked up shit.
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How Lora even got into WB?
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>>157385904
Oh my god, I just realized we're getting girl SoL from the pervert that is Aleister Crowley. This is gonna be amazing.
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>>157387312
Because they're based on Jesus. He was a cool guy but they could at least try to be more imaginative with their idol theory.
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>>157387053
>not satisfied with just saving the living, Touma has made it his mission to save the dead as well
What a guy
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>>157386107
1/10, even more nonsensical than usual. Interactions of Mikoto and Misaki were fine though.
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>>157387347
damn. replied to wrong post
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>>157387363
She rode her magic bathtub.
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>>157387200
Novel will probably be after Robutt's arc
>inb4 it covers what Mikoto did in the 10 days of the WW3 before she went to Russia
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>>157387205
It all depends on how they see the punch
>a scrawny guy says he's going to punch me
>imagine that the punch would feel like a light tap
>Be moderately surprised that the punch is slightly stronger
For the magic gods vs Crowley they probably saw him as really low compared to their ridiculous power
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>>157387385
Almost got me.
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>>157387363
She took the stairs
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>>157387385
> volume that is based on real events
> even more nonsensical than usual
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>>157386324
She'll confiscate every bathtub
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>157387385
You'll have to work harder if you want a (You) from me.
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If Aiwass is the angel of physical laws, why it needs AIM to manifest?
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>>157387434
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>>157387439
Shit, she wouldn't be cruel enough to take Touma's bathtub, right?
Where is he going to sleep now?
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>>157386107
Between like and dislike, its like. Between good or bad, its good.
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>>157387312
Why are you so shit?
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>>157387475
Touma can always sleep on the floor
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7/10 or 8/10, didn't like the final battle.
MIght be because of the Infodump but some parts seemed more nonsensical then usual, which is saying alot.
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>>157387475
On Aleister's thighs
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>>157387475
>Touma comes back home wishing to get some sleep before he is forced to save AC again
>bathtub is gone
>he has to sleep in the balcony even though it's winter
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>>157387312
shut up mikoto
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>>157387180
I personally found it hilarious that he admitted Mikoto was useful via being too weak and pathetic to give up on.
>>157387317
Did it really? There are incinerators on every block, entire cities have been wiped out via genocide, england had a civil war instigated by crowley's actions, World war three happened, the entire universe and all life in it barring Touma X othinus was obliterated tens of thousands of times. The arguments that AC has done more good is a steaming pile of bullshit.
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> “Aleister was…knocked out? I can’t believe it.”
Neither can I, neither can I.
Kamisato put out better fight than him.
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>>157387466
All phases exist at the time overlapping each other. Crowley is pulling Aiwass from the pure world to this one. Just like when Fiamma pulled down Gabe from his phase.
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>>157387543
> england had a civil war instigated by crowley's actions
Wait... What? It was all Carissa fault here.
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>>157387437
>referencing a couple of real names and events = based on real events
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>>157387554
That's because Kamisato was born a winner who gets bitches and gets away with everything while Aleister fails so hard at failing that he fucks logic and fails anyway.
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>>157387554
The whole volume was repeatedly talking about how he was a normal human, so no one should be surprised that the fight wasn't a huge spectacular showdown with fireworks and explosions.
This is just the beginning of the arc, too.
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>>157386310
>The perfect world and everything Othinus created, every person was only controlled by something like some highly advanced AI really, they were not really real in that sense or a alternatve version.
No anon, they were all real, magic gods are able to directly affect phases. Its been years already, get out of that denial phase, its not something you can just shrug off as "w-well its not real/alternate universe".
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>>157386107
9/10
I enjoyed this volume thoroughly.
Next arc is even more hype now that Hamazura and Accelerator are joining the fray again.
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>>157387554
>Kamisato put out better fight than him.
Look at Aleister.
Do you honestly think that string-bean can take a punch? It's Accelerator 2.0.
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>>157387619
What Hamazura even can do, lmao.
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>>157386517
Needs to be Awaki'd
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>>157386721
Coronzon said it jumped into a pile of papers and then followed him out of Africa, she was on another continent in all likelihood he did the best he could.
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>>157387603
Read a bit about the Golden Dawn and the Battle of Blythe Road and then come back.
Kamachi was pretty faithful to the real life events aside from the magic shit, Wescott and Mathers dying the way they did and Aleister not getting kicked off the stairs
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>>157387597
Started by Fiamma whom influences Carissa because Fiamma saw the effects of Angel Fall and wanted to fix things but needed John's pendex to do it which meant luring Touma over and all of that was caused by Crowley's meddling of the Aeons.
Everything goes back to Crowley's meddling.
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>>157387671
Shoot Aleister off her broom
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>>157387554
You over estimated the human
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>>157387671
That's what they always say. Watch as he masterfully fucks up both Coronzon and Aleister's plans by accident just by being involved.
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>>157387686
Why do you think the elements being out of order is Aleister's fault?
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>>157387715
>That was too easy Demon
>That was too easy "Human"
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>>157385806
He ended it because it was (mostly) the end of Shinobu and Yukari's story, but he also left an ending that could still continue, even more so with the Hishigami side story released afterwards that could lead into a Hayabusa/Hishigami spinoff.
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>>157386738
He meant men love the concept of GATTAI
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>>157387180
I love this one for the way he insulted HP with so much passion. Though it hurt how he admitted Misaka was in the way, poor thing.
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>>157387733
The elements being out of order is because the Aeon changed which this volume even had the courtesy of repeating for you about him starting the new Aeon.
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What exactly stopped crowllion of Aleisters to no starting the greatest orgy in the history of degeneracy?
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32, 30, 10
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>>157387679
>implying Crowley wasn't so horribly traumatized by the stairs he intentionally left it out because of a mental block
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>>157387785
It's okay, she more than proved herself in NT15, she was the MVP.
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>>157387672
I miss the days when punching bitches was a major theme.
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>>157385035
Before, I was hyped to see this punch. But now I hated it so much after starting to like Aleister along the way and now with his flashback.
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>>157387806
>I t-totally killed them with c-cool magic
>i-it's not like I got kicked off the s-stairs and then killed them with poisoned semen cookies
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>>157387800
> fax outs behind you
*nothing personnel god's believer*
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>>157387773
And he's absolutely correct.
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>>157387616
Yes that was only simplified.
Of course they were real but well Will herself said something about how Othinus has some power about death and life or whatever.
Othinus was basically just moving around the pieces and reviving dead people, she can probably also copy them and many other things but it is not like she truly created a alternate universe or alternate versions of the people in the world.
Because of that I don't see it as Touma killed billion people but more like the pieces got returned to their places, memories wiped and restored and the people who were dead are dead again..
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>>157387180
Nigga is delusional, if Misaka weren't there he'd undoubtedly find a way out, and save High Priest as well while he's at it
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>>157387273
Misaka is cute but dumb
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>>157383203
>nd the validity of the fundamental theory had already been proven by Aleister himself by using an esper cyborg to draw power out of the 7 Level 5s.

What? But they couldn't draw power from Gunha. It was only 6 Level 5s.
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>>157387854
>Crowley defiling the sanctity of his baked goods with poison
For shame
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>>157387789
>>157387733
In retrospect I should have also pointed out that Crowley himself even told Fiamma that the reason the elements were out of order was because he had changed the aeon already so Fiamma was trying to fix everything when it was too late to actually work.
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>>157387887
>Implying Awaki/Takitsubo haven't leveled up in the background
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>>157387887
> he doesn't know about #0 level 5
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>>157384661
Is that saying Aneri is Mina? Because I read it as a list myself. Ie; Aneri, as well as Mina; the Thoth reading etc."
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>>157387840
He just punched an androgynous man and accidentally fucked everyone over even harder
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>>157387672
>ywn be a shotacon and be stalked by Awaki
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>>157387887
Rensa showed GUTS when she was falling apart and even unlocked white wings. That is why it counts.
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>>157387945
They should really focus on levelling up Takitsubo so she can power-up the rest of the esper character or whatever the fuck her supposedly OP power is supposed to do.
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>>157387799
>Implying that's not exactly how they're attacking the commonwealth.
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>>157387870
But that' just an illusion anon. The living are becoming the dead, not the dead going back to being dead. The whole point is that the action was already made, the dead were already alive, and no matter how you word it, making the pieces go back to before is the same as sending them back to their graves.
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>>157388011
>they conquer the Commonwealth by having bizarre sex orgies till everyone feels uncomfortable and leaves
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>>157387978
It sounds like Mina and Thoth reading became one, and Aneri is like a mini version of her, but became her own "person".
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>>157387991
> Imagine if Cronozon is taken out by level 5 Saten
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>>157388043
I was thinking more along the line of weaponized semen tossing and sex magic but whatever floats your boat.
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>>157388046
I suppose I can see that
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What was a secret to Aleister 1500 years of immortality?
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>due to this whole fight and its aftermath Touma is sure to repeat a year
Keikaku doori.
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>>157388133
Horusian fuckery
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>>157387619
Can't Shiage's "arc" be considered done by now? He has practically no personality as a lead and was only there to be a protagonist while Touma was "dead".
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>>157388133
Floating on little girsl' piss for years.
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>>157387859
more like "It has always been personnell, god believer"
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>>157388190
Did you literally skip OT and start reading from NT1?
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>>157388155
>implying Touma won't fight for Coronzon after being promised that Tsuchi can stay, and he will graduate, along with one of Laura's second hand bath tubs
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>>157388190
Yeah honestly I don't really want to see Hamazura again, he's gone through his character arc and has no reason to join anything as Salaome showed, he's just getting his stable job and enjoying life. Much like Accelerator but a normal dude instead of the number 1 and releated to Aleisters plan.
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>>157388190
You're forgetting the fact that his girlfriend is a potential level 5.
Also, Kamisato clearly made everything go forward way faster and he was not in the plan, I feel like Aleister's plan was going to happen around end of december because of date having magical powers and stuff.
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>>157388224
>Aleister counters it by offering him a scholarship in Oxford with a whole dormitory for himself and his free-loaders
>also the dormitory has a busty dorm manager
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>>157387982
Crowley is so good at fucking up the natural progression of things that after getting punched by Touma, Touma was forced to join him.
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>>157388220
>Dumbass question detected
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>>157388270
Oxford sucks in comparison, and his schoolmates aren't there
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>>157388270
Lola counters via pointing out that she is a busty onee-san.
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When was the last time Touma even slept? I'm pretty sure it has been going around with no sleep for four days already.
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>>157388336
*he has been
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>Actually having a girl version of Alesiter

This killed it for me.
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>>157388319
>>157388270
>busty onee-san.
>busty dorm manager
Were you guys even paying attention? Touma mentioned that he wanted a young dorm manager in this novel, he's already been corrupted.
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>>157386107
9/10 I was so-so on the last battle, and they never explained why everyone disappeared though I guess maybe they really were all blown away and just didn't look for each other and all climbed upwards.
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>>157388392
Her name is Kurori Alicia and she is best girl, you faggot.
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>>157387940
Thanks for making me reread that, I see everything now. Plus that exchange answers the Holy Right vs. Blasting Rod question half the thread's been about too, since it actually happened then and the Blasting Rod won.
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>>157388336
Last time was on kamisato's hideout, right before he met Fran, then he went on the whole yuuitsu thing and hasnt slept till now, its what, almost 3 days?
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>>157388421
They did explain it. Touma got too sucked into the "fake" WB that he went too far in.
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>>157388406
I think he meant "young" as in "not a MILF or a grandma".
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>>157388245
Including Shiage is actually more important than you think. He basically represents the spirit of the city as an actual genuine level 0 without any special status like Touma or Accelerator.
He was always a thorn in Aleister's side back in OT so not including him now when Aleister is taking action would make the big deal they made out of this seem like a waste of time.
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>>157388336
This volume lasted like 2 hours tops
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>>157388457
Not the last disappearance I meant right at the start where Touma wakes up on his own and picks up people along the way. Especially seemed weird that Tsuchi didn't turn back for his imouto
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>>157388489
Yeah but he barely slept during NT16 and didn't sleep at all during NT17 (which lasted two days) so he hasn't slept for three days already, not to mention all the running, jumping, climbing and fighting he had to do.
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So Mikoto catched
>A siscon and maid sister
>A nun and the cat
>A 15 cm magic god
>An alien girl with a nice butt
How strong is the girl?
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>>157388512
I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be the explanation for it all. They thought that was the real Windowless Building, so they naturally thought it was normal to get separated. Pretty much a slightly easier to understand NT4.
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>>157388561
She's in a power suit
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>>157388512
I think they mentioned they were all blown away into different directions and had to climb from different places.
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>“It wasn’t Aleister,” said Othinus. “He does not care if he succeeds or fails. So he will cast the die for real. It isn’t like him to intentionally self-destruct by showing off how to defeat him.”
>Then who?
>The information at hand was not enough to find the answer, but there was one thing they could say. This too must have been something Aleister Crowley had not expected.

Was it Lola?
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>>157388586
Maybe it was just done offhand and I missed it. It still seems weird though that Tsuchimikado would get so high and never once go "Shit, maybe I should go look for my sister who has chain demons running after her"
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>>157388561
Yet she still couldn't catch Touma
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>>157388561
If Othinus wasn't holding to someone then she is fucking dead. Why would Misaka bother to pick a "doll"?
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>>157388609
It was Mina
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>>157388609
It was probably Mina
>>157388627
Fran was holding her
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So when did Aleister set up his own mountain to heaven? Did Fraulein experience that? That may also explain what Touma was feeling in NT5, literal gravity.
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>>157388609
No, Mina.
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>>157388627
>start of next volume is Othinus nonchalantly showing she still has magic god powers just because Mikoto didnt catch her
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>>157388627
She was with Fran
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Last
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>>157388666
Thanks Aleister
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>>157388663
No, it can be even better.
>start of next volume is Touma finding Othinus's dead body splashed on the ground and going full demon king
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>>157388646
>>157388666
How nice of Mikoto to pick up the girl that fucked up AC
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>>157388647
He set it up when he heard Touma was coming so he would see his backstory and sympathize with him instead of seeing Ladylee being tortured.
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>>157388561
It was said more than once how strong she is, she carried Touma alone without breaking a sweat. The girl is fit as fuck.
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>>157388702
Just another week in Academy City.
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>create an AI to control your HQ
>give it the personality of the wife of the man who you fucked her and who fucking hated you
Literally why
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>>157388424
I'm not a lolicon lonely bastard who likes to fap to young girls since I'm a girl, so thank you.
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>“I am the Reading Thoth 78 built into the Windowless Building.
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KAMACHI YOU FUCKING MADMAN!
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>>157388749
I guess you could call him a madman who doesn't care if he fails
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>>157388749
Crowley cannot stop fucking himself over
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>>157388749
*of the man you fucked over
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>>157387773
Which is?
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>>157388751
What do you mean? you're on /a/, we're all gay little girls around here, its obvious you'd like little girls.
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>>157382321
Mikoto's ignorance of magic is supposed to be a boon for Touma. It gives him hope that he has a place to return to after all is said and done. Kamachi keeps trying to drive this into the reader's skull, but it never sticks for whatever reason. People need to go back and reread NT13 to educate themselves.
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>>157387134
I do tho. I don't give a flying fuck about the rest.
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>>157388755
>I am also an original grimoire named the Thoth Tarot.
Well fuck, twist after twist.
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>>157388793
Probably because literally anyone could work for that just fine
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Whose illusion has Touma destroyed the hardest to date?
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>>157388755
Please don't spam exclamation marks.
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How will Aleister convince accel to come anyway?
I dont think threatening last order is an option if he want Touma to cooperate. And its not like he can just go "So hey, i'm the guy who made you kill all those clones, mind helping me out?"
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>>157388813
Fiamma
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OT23,NT9,NT18 is the holy trinity of index series
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>>157388809
And it just happens that Mikoto is the one in this case.
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>>157388793
You say that like Saten couldn't do that better while knowing about magic at the same time.
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>>157388851
>it's my side or a demon
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>>157388851
>Come here or I'll tell everyone your real name
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>>157388851
He uses the curse he put on Mikoto
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So Misaka firing the Liquid Proof Railgun that happened earlier in the novel was actually a flashforward. And she is actually only firing it right now when Thoth Tarot?
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>>157388882
Last order will die on her sleep tonight if you don't reply to me
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>we now have to wait half a year for NT19
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>>157388907
She fired it twice.
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>>157388907
Huh? Barely any time was passing in the WB.

I'd assume in real time, only an hour or two passed as soon as they got in there.
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>>157388921
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>>157388923
At least we'll have S3 meanwhile, r-right?
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>>157388923
Sure feels like some dates are aligning here.
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>>157387870
>but it is not like she truly created a alternate universe or alternate versions of the people in the world.
But she did anon. This is said multiple times in NT9
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Kiharas are about to have a field day in AC.
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>>157389041
It's her time to shine.
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>>157389041
That reminds me
>Yuuitsu thought she stood a chance against Alisteir even with the Kihara meme thing
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>>157388392
1 billion Aleisters and not a one is a girl? Think about those odds anon
>>
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>>157389069
Well you can thank her for everything coming crumbling down this volume.
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>>157389055
She died trying to understand Yuuitsu's autism
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>>157389069
If it works she'll have 7 billion Kiharas, though
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>>1573890564
Oh wait, actually, apparently Tsuchimikado and Fran are screwing around with the machines in the Windowless Building after the temple collapsed. Getting the data however acts like an original grimoire infecting people, so they had Index interpret it?
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So Coronzon probably calculated Aleister's exact whereabouts because of NT17's ending, right? That'd be why he said that nothing in this volume really mattered because it was going to happen either way.
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>the only people who ever truly liked Aleister with no ulterior motives were his wife, his mentor and his doge
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>>157388406
I can see he's growing up
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>>157389186
>and us
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>The one who stepped forward in the very, very end was the kind of normal high school boy once could find anywhere.
Oh, for fuck's sakes, Kamachi.
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>>157389261
Speak for yourself.
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>>157388751
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
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How does it feel to be ruled by Aleisters?
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>>157389186
There was his daughter too, and Doctor Gekota
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>>157386270
this
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>>157389325
Will Aleister give the Falklands back to the argies if we eat his semen cookies?
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AAAAAA FATHER HELP MEEEE
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>>157389288
This is especially painful to read after revealing that Touma's existence spawned most of the world's current conflict, is nurturing a monstrosity in his arm, and seems to have clicked pretty well with the world's greatest madman.
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>no matter how this ends, Aleister won't have a happy ending
At least I hope the "Index is Lilith" theory is right so he can say goodbye to her and finding some peace before dying.
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Can we get it to 666 posts?
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>>157387543
>I personally found it hilarious that he admitted Mikoto was useful via being too weak and pathetic to give up on.

Go back and read it again, idiot. Misaka was useful because she doesn't plague him with the same anxiety and insecurities that Index and Othinus do. Those two would be telling him how hopeless the situation was, while Mikoto actually has the courage to face the unknown threat head on. It's not hard to see why Touma prefer's Mikoto's assistance more in these kinds of situations.
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>>157389444
We are all Aleister shitposting so the thread will probably die with 665 replies.
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Silvia a slut
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>>157389442
*find some peace
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>>157389444
>444
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>Touma finally gives a speech
>it's to motherfucking Aleister Crowley
Oh shit niggah.
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>>157389468
Even though Othinus gave him a pep talk this very volume.
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>>157389506
A shame it sucked.
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>>157389442
>At least I hope the "Index is Lilith" theory is right so he can say goodbye to her and finding some peace before dying.

That would be a happy ending, anon. We can't have that happening now, can we? Remember: no happy endings. Only suffering and decay awaits.

>This is the story of the butthurt magician: he was so butthurt that everybody died. The End.
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>>157389531
t. Kamisato
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>>157389506
>>157389531
He even admitted that this speech was pulled right out of his ass.
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Othinus is cute
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>>157389531
Yeah, and it really didn't work out. Aleister is too much of an abomination to be stopped by mere words. I think the Loli Aleister might be born out of that speech, though.
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>>157389542
Fuck no, I'd WR myself if I had to deal with his cancerous harem every day.
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>>157384832
NT18 SS
[1/3]
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>“There’s only one reason you lost: At some point, you stopped standing on the side that protected the sanctity of Lilith’s soul.”

So Crowley still had one illusion that needed to be destroyed despite saying all his illusions were destroyed long ago?
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>>157389568
What are those?
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>>157389568
Merchandise was foreshadowing all the Aleister's
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If this is a 666th post Kakine is a faggot
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>>157389576
Nope. He doesn't change at all after the punch. There was nothing there for Touma to change.
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>>157389568
>>157389591
[3/3]
https://imgur.com/a/dyYSr
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DO WHAT THOU WILT SHALL BE THE WHOLE OF THE LAW
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Can someone explain to me how Othinus and gang were able to take out the shadow sword from Maika?
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>>157389468
>Those two would be telling him how hopeless the situation was
She doesn't though and specifically stops Touma from going into spirals of self doubt. That's just Touma's usual BS to make people feel better
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>>157389636
AAAAAA AIWASS ITS HAPPENING AGAIN
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>>157389654
Index read a grimoire Aleister had lying around that Mina pulled out for them, and Tsuchimikado must have cast the spell
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>677 Posts
>67 IPs
Sasuga Raildexfags and leave Coronzon to me.Good Thread
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>>157389691
Could it be she used herself? She was after all Thoth Tarot, an original grimoire.
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>>157389468
>Othinus would just tell him how hopeless the situation was
Funny he says that but even with Aiwass Othinus doesn't do that stuff and tends to find solutions
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>>157389095
Wonder if Fremea gets this punishment too.
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>>157389783
>“I am also an original grimoire named the Thoth Tarot. Even if I cannot refine my own magic power as a living being can, the forbidden writings absorb power from my surroundings to automatically use magic for self-defense.”
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>>157389811
She knew Aleister would fail like always
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>“She normally insulted you constantly, but in the end she was tearfully pleading for you: Father! Father!! Help me, father!!!!!!”
Holy shit.
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>>157389842
I don't think Othinus knows about Aleister's penchant to fail. She just trusted that there was a chance.
>f there was even the smallest chance of victory, she would not give up.
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How am I supposed to cope with this dread of having to wait forever for NT19? Is it finally time to pick up Blood Sign and Booboo?
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>>157389878
AAAAAARRRRGGHHH FATHER HELP ME
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>>157389878
There goes another tearstain into the journal.
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>>157388427
>won
That was depowered holy right
Read the end of the Touma fight, Fiamma had try to harm him with it and by that point the hand lost so much power ib could break it. The moment Fiamma has to try it is already over. Anything less than LPSaD would lose to Crowley, let alone after Crowley cuts off his arm. Only LPSaD is perfect, even the ww3 Fiamma had to dodge Vento's attacks.

However as we know things work on priority at the high levels it is possible that holy right could get fucked over if assumes Blasting rod's power level and the rod makes itself ten times stronger than what the hand set itself to.
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>>157389878
Aleister's fault for playing favorites with his kids.
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>>157389912
People usually branch to HO first.
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>>157389878
>his second daughter was a blonde busty tsundere
Now I wonder what Lilith would've been like, I'm guessing affectionate, if really spoiled considering how Crowley still thinks of her
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>>157389912
Blood Sign for sure. Boo Boo has the potential to take off into some interesting stuff soon, but it probably shouldn't be the top of your list now.
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>>157389912
I'd recommend HO and/or ZW before those personally.
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>>157389948
>Lillith is a spoiled brat
Sounds like Index
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>>157389912
Blood Sign is a pretty wild ride. Go for it.
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>>157389968
I WONDER WHY
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>Index will grow up to look like Laura
Really gets the noggin joggin
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>>157389912
Theres a Railgun novel coming out soon(?)
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>>157389442
>Aleister find out Index is Lilith while dying
>" Who could have thought that my dead daughter was A Certain Magical Index all along"
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Best novel since NT9.
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>>157390030
Sisters don't always look the same
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>>157389878
OTOUSAN TASUKETE!!!!!!!
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>>157390030
Unlees she ends up looking like her dad or turns into a landwhale from eating so much.
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>“My plan has failed again. I will give you the alternatively-shaped temple known as Academy City.”
AAAAAAAA SO MANY ALEISTERS!
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>>157380433
Academy City existed in the perfect world, so it meant Golden Dawn events took place.
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>>157390059
I'd say OT22, NT9, and NT18 might be my favorites now. Really hard though with ones like OT15/19, and NT4/7.
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>Aneri was Mina Mathers all along
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>157389942
This

>t. anon who finished HO first before index
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>>157390166
You're probably the first in history
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>>157390060
Lola is supposed to look like college aged Index as per Haimura's words
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Only way for Aleister to erase is if he passes the baton to someone else, is pretty clear that he will never ever succed
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>>157389878
>Aleister than proceeds to get angry and get killed off like a bitch
>Only to then appear as a billion Crowleys, cold as ice again, and told her that she can have his little city, he's taking everything else.

This guy.
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Othinus Boss Battle > Fiamma Boss Battle > Crowley Boss Battle
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>>157390220
Good thing this isn't the end of Crowley
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Mikoto a CUTE!
Kuroko a LEWD!
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>>157390125
Pretty similar here, but NT9 is still my favorite and I'd put NT18 below it but above NT4/7.
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>If you’re interested, it might be fun to look into the details for yourself, but I will say you might feel disillusioned after learning about that struggle for power.
top kek
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>>157390220
Aleister hasn't had his boss battle yet.
>>
Page 10 already. Come on, hurry up. We need a new thread.
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>>157390205
to erase magic*
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>Kamachi actually fucking read thelema books
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>I’ve taken a liking to the double high-class ladies. Combining is the romance of men. Learn to appreciate it.
More gattai soon?
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>>157390290
Was there ever any doubt? He's Aleister's reincarnation. One of his potentials.
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>>157390316
Its the only way Misaki can leave an impact on Touma afterall
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>>157390290
I wouldn't be too surprised if he consulted with IRL Aiwass.
>>
NT18 was worth the wait and then some. From a plot perspective alone, it did a good job of building off the previous volumes without getting bogged down by some of those controversial things.
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>>157390339
>Tonight at 10:00: Delusional old man claims to have consulted with an angel by the name "Aiwass"
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>>157390290
I'm pretty certain Kamachi has mentioned picking up tons of reference books. He became a big mythology and occult buff while writing Raildex.
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>>157390395
>old man
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new thread is up
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>>157390408
He said he knows more about western magic than Japanese folklore now.
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>>157390416
Shit, i thought you were talking about Keikaku Man.
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>>157390437
> raildex soon will grow into contemporary hermetic tradition
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>>157390220
This is the equivalent of the Othinus vs Touma fight in Baggage City, except the result was the opposite.
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Mikoto a CUTE!
Kuroko a LEWD!
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>>157386107

if scale 1 to 10
1,000,000,000 over 10
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>>157390562
both are SLUTS!
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>>157390618
No theyre NOT!
Mikoto... Fuck.
Kuroko is just... Fuck you anon.
Mikoto is a loyal waifu as seen with Touman, same said for Kuroko constantly stalking Mikoto
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