What went wrong?

>>157370363
forced drama

going to watch it now, hope its just another episode of /a/ just want to be a contrarian, like almost always.

>>157370363
This thread.

>>157370363
Is the ending to this the same as the manga? If it is I'm not going to bother watching it.

forced animation

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>>157370363

forced chromatic abberation

>>157370519
It is, it's actually one of the best anime films ever made. Yamada does it again.

>>157370363
The ending was dull and abrupt.

I enjoyed the film but the way the majority of the characters still had no kind of empathy for how much of a cunt they were was baffling.

nothing, better than Shitkai

>watching movies

Why

>>157370363
koe no katachi? more like koe no katashit
a silent voice? more like a silent flop

Bad premise.
No one likes seeing people being mean to each other, especially not in a sad way where no one is evil. No one should expect this to do well, it never had potential to catch on. People don't want to feel what this makes you feel.
There was a limit to how much they could do, without changing the story and tone completely. It never had potential to become a success.
(Haven't seen the movie or read the manga)

>>157371742
I like the premise, but the directing was awful
the ost is good atleast

>>157371983
The premise works for making a good movie, but it's a bad idea if you want to make money. A serious movie about bullying and disabilites and suicide will never be successful. People don't want to watch that. It has the potential for objectively being a masterpiece, but people won't want to watch something like that over and over, when it doesn't bring good feelings, and it's also less tempting to go watching something like that.

>>157370363
Doesn't properly develope character relationships.
Really confusing story telling making it hard to follow or understand what's going on.

It has some nice moments but for the most part it's just really amateur.

>>157371983
This, i loved the manga, and really bought into the character drama, but they way they jump from scene to scene character to character in the movie just makes it all feel confusing.

Character's actions don't at all seem justified half the time, and sometimes you just have no idea what's happening or what kind of emotion is being conveyed.

>>157372423
>Character's actions don't at all seem justified half the time
Humans, especially young ones, are not rational actors

>>157370775
The movie is pretty static to be honest.

>>157372926
You are correct, but this is fiction, and in fiction your characters need to make sense and have rational motives. Good fiction never strives to be realistic, but have coherency.

>>157373063
Christ, no, what the hell is wrong with you
The best fiction is the fiction that best replicates reality

>>157372423
I have no know if it's cause the shitty google translate subs that I watched but I had no clue what was happening half the time.

One minute deaf girl tries tell bully-kun that she likes him, only for it never to be brought up or built upon. there's just way too many loose ends

>>157370363
I liked it. Except for the ending.
Just kiss, damnit.

>>157373194
>>157373205
You both went into it expecting something different than what it was. The romance is incidental, it's not the driving force of the story.

>>157373133
I guess this would be your favourite film of all time, then:

https://youtu.be/Ih3nBxjkBH8

>>157373333
Fiction has to be entertaining, too, of course. Acting like there can't be a balance is asinine.

>>157373133
>The best fiction is the fiction that best replicates reality
Realistic situations, at least ones that we can relate, but not realistic characters with realistic lives and realistic dialogues, since that tends to be boring and convoluted in a bad way. Try recording a few conversations you have with people, you'll realize how bad ¨realistic¨ dialogue actually is.

>>157373419
Seeing people that talk, think, act and feel like me is what keeps me searching. It's the exact opposite of boring, it's totally authentic and engrossing.

>>157370792

Hey, at least it is something. It is not a good story in any sense so getting those trophies in itself is already a huge achievement.

>>157373464
You´re so romantic but you don´t really know what you want in fiction.

>>157373510
I liked Pulp Fiction

>>157373510
I guess I'm just sick of years and years of consuming shit that says and reflects absolutely nothing about the kind of people I grew up around and the kind of place I came from. You can find that stuff anywhere. It's the other stuff that makes it all worthwhile.

>>157373475
I agree, KyoAni picked a bad material to adapt from.

>>157373638
Pulp fiction has meticulously created dialogue, though. Tarantino is one of the best when it comes to making dialogue be incredibely functional while appearing casual and without meaning.

>>157373714
Every character in a Tarantino movie talks like Tarantino. Scorsese is a better writer.

>>157370363
It was good, the fuck are you talking about?

>>157373778
Tarantino is still up there.

Just watched it, people who defend it are just kyoanus lickers, aside from the OP everyting was bad

>>157370363
>romance
>don't ever get together

>>157373891
It's not really a romance

>>157373325
I went in knowing nothing besides some kid bullies a deaf girl, I hate how they teased the romance and then it was never brought up again and just thrown away, there was no point of that scene being in the movie

>>157370363
It was made into a movie when it should have been made into a series

>>157374450
If you found out something about the characters, then the scene justifies itself.

>>157374578
I hate this opinion

It came out within weeks of Your Name. It's a nice flick but compared to Your Name it's gutter trash anime.

>>157374842
I think you've got it backwards.

>>157374940
t. Kyoanus

>>157370693
it just ends sooner than the manga about 2 chapters sooner

>>157374988
I'm a kyoanus licker myself and even I realize this movie isn't that good. I didn't read the manga so I'm not really biased or had expectations for it. I also thought people whinning about the chromatic aberration and blur was a meme but it is really distracting.

>>157374582
How? If that scene is trying to show shouko trying to communicate better then they could of done it in much better ways without throwing romance into it

>>157370363
The pacing is fucked.
It jumps from an event to another without letting the characters breath or anything matter. Scenes that were supposed to be powerful are just whatever without proper build up, cool down and execution.
It poorly tries to cover everything in the manga without focusing on anything.
>>157374816
I might not like to hear it but it's the truth. The film is a rushed mess.

>>157375375
>It tries to cover everything in the manga
Wrong

>>157374450
the point of the scene is to show how Shouya and Nishimiya felt about each other. We learned that even after everything that has happened Nishimiya feels romantically about Shouya. Shouya on the other hand does not think romantically about their relationship at all.


When Nishimiya tried to say "Tski da", even with her broken pronunciation, the obvious assumption would be that she is confessing her love. however, because shouya is not thinking romantically at all he assumes she said "Tsuki" meaning moon. The point of the scene is to tell us what shouya truly seeks is forgiveness and friendship and he is not doing all this cause his dick told him to.

Nishimiya, despite being afraid of Shouya at first grows to like him more and more. We needed to learn she fell in love with shouya because of what happens in the final act of the film. Seeing shouya alienate himself from all his friends for her sake, she begins to feel guilty. She even tries to commit suicide because she wanted the person she loved, Shouya, to be freed from here baggage. The suicide attempt would not make sense unless we learnt how strongly Nishimiya felt about Shouya hence the confession scene.

>>157372926
But the actions feel justified in the manga, ueono for example, it clearly shows she has a thing for ishida but in the movie it's like "why does she care so much lol"

>>157375415
It doesn't cover everything in the manga but you can clearly see a bunch of shit that is missing that makes no god damn sense unless you read the manga. Personally I would be fine if they did an OVA for several parts to give the character development then being literal whos.

>>157374988
Nice post

>>157375508
Haven't read the manga myself, and I never felt lost

>>157375415
It does. Even the characters made pointless by the cuts are still there for no reason.
The story was just not made to be compressed in two hours, it needed some serious rewriting, not just cutting some fluff and making entire chapters into montages like they did.

>>157370363

Didn't even watched it properly and except for the attempted suicide scene. They didn't do the Ueno/Shouko mom catfight justice really, although the kid Shouya/Shouko fight was pretty well done. All in all it was okay and glad they skipped the movie plot since it was shit.

>>157375613
No it doesn't there are entire arcs from the manga that are cut to save time like the school film

>>157370363
No sex

>>157375475
I never read the manga but I don't feel like every motivation for every character needs thorough justification. Ueono likes Shouya but why she liked him didn't need explaining because the rest of the story works well without it.

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>>157375589
Clearly you don't look much into something and just accept things regardless if it made no sense. Still I do agree the film is pretty good but they could have done hell of a lot better.

No sakuga. Now I know why the movie only took 3 months to make, they're pretty much just static images.

>>157375641
But the school film crew is still there, for no reason.

>>157375508
I only watched the movie and story was crystal clear to me. Which part doesn't make sense in the movie to you?

>>157375690
Yes, clearly I'm just stupid, excellent deduction

>>157375714
Crew? You mean the friendship group that Shoya wanted Shoko to reconnect with?

>>157375730

Glad we have something to agree on.

>>157375730
I never said that I just stated you accept things regardless how poorly it is done.

>>157375770
Feel better yet?

>>157375690
Suspension of disbelief you autist. Try it sometimes.

>>157375798
That's an odd way to frame it - I'd say that I didn't find much poorly done to begin with. Your position seems to suppose that these things are incontrovertible truths that we either choose to accept, or we don't.

>>157370792
To be fair, it is pretty much rare for there to be three prominent anime movies at the time.

>Award bait due to muh nippon suffering
>Meme magic powered thanks to Finds a Way

The fact that it won anything is impressive in on itself.

>>157375842
You are the one took offense and started berating yourself despite it having nothing to do with what was said. But it doesn't matter just enjoy the film because ignorance is bliss. I do it sometimes too for some shows. Personally I prefer to watch the movie then read the source but I never thought this would get an adaptation.

>>157375714
the problem with cutting the film arc, is that there is no tension build up and it makes the following scene come across as forced drama which it was in the manga anyway but more believable . You have to make something else build up stress and tension between them otherwise this scene ends up falling flat

>>157375976
I wasn't the one making judgements of how "deeply" other people examine the media they consume because they didn't have the save issues with it as me. Reexamine your own actions here.

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Got a hard-on for disabled girls lately. Any anime/manga with such theme? Not including moe-retarded /air-headed types.

>>157376037
I guess there is no point in discussing if it just falls on deaf ears.

>>157376142
>deaf ears
Cute.

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>>157370363
>le what went wrong shit thread
I hate you

Honestly i just had no idea what the fuck is happening half the time the movie jumps around way to much.

>>157373333
This is one of the best films ever made you degenerate (if you were speaking negatively of it)

>>157375427
That makes a bunch more sense, I'm sure the romance is more dominate in the manga later on?

Some reviews said that Yamada's direction isn't tailored to be the most accessible and people who weren't paying extra attention to the film would be confused so all these comments just feel like vindication

>>157376950
Do they say why? Yamada direction is not exactly avant garde or complex.

>>157376067

Just fucking download and play Katawa Shoujo.

https://www.katawa-shoujo.com/

>>157377128
I mean, all the shots of people's bodies instead of their faces, to represent Shouya being unable to look the world in the eye is a pretty uncompromising directorial choice. If you don't key into that you could get pretty thrown by it.

>>157377236
>I mean, all the shots of people's bodies instead of their faces, to represent Shouya being unable to look the world in the eye is a pretty uncompromising directorial choice
This argument falls flat when Yamada's framing style boils down to body and limb shots, regardless of motives and moods you just described. Even scenes or characters that have nothing to do with the themes of Koe no Katachi have them in any Yamada directed anime/episode.

>>157377362
The argument is ultimately it's not a directorial decision made with accessibility in mind. The thematic context is just describing the usage of those shots in terms of this project specifically.

>>157370363
It existing.

>>157377220
Been there, done that. Next!

>>157377128
An unexplained web of symbology (baptism. flowers, water, slippers), understated character motivations that don't make sense until you reach the end or in some cases aren't present from the manga and only hinted at, peculiar sound editing tied to the "deaf" themes in both a literal and metaphorical sense, untranslated sign language and very strong attention to body language in general. Also portraying this particular subject matter in a tender and sensitive way that also feels uncomfortable rather than a brute power fantasy of the hero getting redemption and romance handed to him which goes against lots of Western fiction. Lots of English citizens in Scotland don't understand Japanese culture so they got mad when the characters acted in a way that's foreign to them. I haven't seen the film or read the manga but this is the bulk of what I know about it.

>>157370363
I really liked it, but I saw it in the cinema so maybe it was forced fun.

>>157377962
nigga what

>>157377128
For me it was the cuts from scene to scene that where confusing, when he first meets shoko all grown up, it cuts to him waking up like it was just a dream or something.
Or like when they showed orange hair dude as part of the group i felt like i had missed something, we know nothing about him.
They also don't really convey the passage of time very well, it's just confusing in general, i hope the manga wasn't like this.

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>>157377962
>forced fun.

>>157378016
It clearly wasn't a dream because you don't dream as an older version of yourself, you dream as yourself

>>157373650
KyoAni's bread and butter is making masterpieces from shit source material

>>157378116
The same thing happened here actually, people will just take a while to appreciate it and stop thinking 1:1 manga adaptations are good.

>>157370363
>What went wrong?
Nothing, it's a masterpiece

>>157378016
I had an issue with this too. It's not like the character motivations were hard to understand, just that they didn't feel strong at all. I haven't read the manga but I assume since they aparently cut out a lot of content, we miss a lot of meat in characterization. The pacing is a bit janky as well.

The movie is certainly rough around the edges but not bad, I wouldn´t blame it on Yamada since most of my grievances are related to the screenplay and she did not write it as far as I'm aware, she's still a director that I believe is highly overrated. I think it could have worked better as a series.

>>157377220
>people still recommend KS
When will this meme stop?

>>157378350
Having read the manga I feel like this wouldn't work as a series. It's true the pacing is too quick at some parts and they cut a lot, most of the cut scenes I agree with, some I do not. The best middle ground would've been if the film was maybe 20-30 minutes longer so they can have more transition or establishing scenes. At the same time though you have to be wary about making a drama film nearly 3 hours long, not many people are willing to sit through that.

>>157378425
why should it stop
its a good VN tho

>>157378648
It is preachy with a bunch of shit girls, plus it is pretty ugly.

>>157370792
>best animated female
>half the film is a man in woman's body

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>friend doesn't like the drama
>ok so what kind of drama do you like in anime
>fucking Anohana and Clannad

Are the google traslate subs good enough if I read the manga, or should I just wait?

>>157378744
Guys make better girls this been a know fact for a while.

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>>157378812
It's duwang tier at best
just wait

>>157378812
Should be fine if you've read the manga and know a bit of jap from watching anime. It's mostly important for the onscreen text anyways. Although there's supposed to be official subs by monday

What an unfocused, poorly paced and bloated mess.
This never should have been made into a movie. And the manga wasn't even that good to begin with, but certainly better than this.

>>157378812
You only have to wait until Monday for official subs

I liked it but I enjoyed the source material anyways.
Definitely preferred this over your name.

>>157378758
he just doesn't like good drama

>>157370363
Nothing went wrong it is pretty successful movie, I don't think they even expect much more than what they got so far

I know it's a movie so there's that excuse but it felt too fast paced and the major events either felt forced or skipped. I felt more emotions watching the CM than the entire movie to be quite frank. I didn't think KyoAni would disappoint me this much or at all really but I'm just really dismayed. A newfag would just be confused at this messy movie and won't follow anything.

I could have directed this jack shit myself and it would be a thousand times better. I feel like the manga was made light of.

>>157378758
I won't really blame your friend. The drama delivery in the movie felt too forced.

>>157380291
I'd like to see you try nigger

>>157380232
your wrong about the newfags.
They will just parrot the masses in saying its a "great film and an emotional rollercoaster". Where they should be looking if the scenes are done in a coherent way. Not to mention they should also be looking at the interactions of the characters and if they resemble that of teenagers. which in my opinion they do not, they more represent what a grown up thinks teenagers would act and behave like

>>157382435
>anyone who disagrees with me is a newfag

I can't believe people made argument that this is better animated than Your Name. This literally looks like a bit more polished kyoani TV series. While that might look impressive compared to other contemporary TV series, you really can't logically make the argument that this is movie tier.

>>157382937
It is better animated than Your Name

>>157383144
By a significant margin too

I told everyone exactly what the audience reaction will be:
>cinephiles will love it because they can appreciate Yamada's artistic skill and weaving of mise-en-scene and sound editing to create an empathetic experience
>otakus will dislike it because manga purists who see the move as something meant to be a plain adaptation and can only describe the film by the machinations of the plot

>>157383144
How? Shinkai has better understanding of how to blend 2d and 3d, doesn't really use flashy effects of hue, motion blur and chromatic aberration. Also he has better sense of using realistic and fantastical imagery. Like the nigga is seriously the professor of realistic backgrounds and lighting. That's just talking aesthetics, then there are amounts of breathtaking sequences that would blow anything kyoani has ever done out of the water.

>>157383298
良いパン

volumes' worth of melodrama makes for a pretty overloaded melodramatic movie

>>157383340
I mean, even if the things you said were true (I'd need some convincing), it is better animated. It moves better. There is more skill and creativity in the drawings that constitute Koe no Katachi than in Kimi no Na wa.

>>157383617
Not him, I haven't seen either but I've seen a few sakuga webms of Kmnnw posted here and they are impressive, specially the watercolor one, that one blew my mind, I don't remember kyoani ever making something of that caliber. And no one really seems to care much about KnK sakuga.

>>157383617
>There is more skill and creativity in the drawings that constitute Koe no Katachi than in Kimi no Na wa.
Yes there's definitely more "skill" and "creativity" here than in the movie with industry veterans.
Also I like how you ask me to convince you yet provide the simplest explanation of why it's better animated.
As for my point, the great 3d/2d blend is very obvious in every Shinkai movie but here there are particularly breathtaking shots like camera sweeping from Tokyo to Itomori or a tons of other sweeping shots. There's also heavy focus on realistic animation like the sake dance ceremony or characters running/moving one place to another to almost surrealist visuals like time travel sequence. There's tons of sakuga but there's also very great consistency and attention to detail. There's nothing like that in Koe no Katachi.

>>157383871
You mean the scene in the cave? That was gorgeous, if not a very isolated highlight. If you liked that, you'll like Koe no Katachi. Both movies worth watching though, you should check them out.

>>157370363
Bgm suck balls

>>157370519
>going to watch it now, hope its just another episode of /a/ just want to be a contrarian, like almost always.

It is. Listen I'm the biggest kyoani hater on this board (or atleast one of them). I can't stand most of what they've put out since the haruhi movie. Frankly i've probably not liked anything they've done (as a tv series) since k-on! They're extremely overrated by all the neckbeards and hipsters.

That said, the movie was better then the manga. It cut out a lot of the filler, boiled the story down to a coherent story with a clear "theme". There were a lot of brilliant shots, but what I think the best part about the story is how Kyoani took the confused message of the manga and transformed it into a brilliant one.

In the manga there was this strange theme about people not communicating and I know what the author was aiming for, but it never quite came across well (mostly because his one shot was supposed to be all there was to the story, and once he was asked to add to it he had to figure out how to turn it into a 60 chapter manga).

Kyoani played a great slight of hand with your expectations. Instead of being a story about Shoko not being able to communicate with others with those people and shoko learning how to talk to eachother, it became a story about everyone else (with ishada as the standin for everyone in her life) learning to communicate with others and her. The deaf girl shoko was the one character who NEVER had a problem communicating with others (or the audience). And they never really had a problem communicating with her. It was how Ishada was unable to "hear" or even "see" everyone else which was the centerpoint of the story.

This I think was something which I think the mangika was TRYING to do, but never quite managed to convey. It was a brilliant movie MUCH better than that freaky fridayxgirl who lept through time ripoff "your name".

>>157384079
There are a few good songs. My favorite is still the one from the trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFQTaF5m_BQ

>>157383938
There's nothing like a strong focus on realistic animation or surrealism in Koe no Katachi? It feels like you're being purposefully ignorant. Either way, Kimi no Na wa is a good looking movie, detailed and consistent for sure. It moves more than Koe no Katachi does, undeniably, but I could never call it better animated. I don't see the same finesse or control that I do here. It feels like it lacks artistry; everything is calculated, rehearsed, safe. Where the drawings in Koe no Katachi are spirited and delicate, those in Kimi no Na wa feel almost factory-made.

>>157384787
Different guy here. This is something I've been meaning to put into words. Your Name has a large array of talented animators who don't usually work under Shinkai, really from that perspective his previous films are very unremarkable. There are some breathtaking cuts in Your Name but they aren't totally in mesh with Shinkai's aesthetic (nor do I remember music like Radwimps in his past films), they stand out for that reason and it's easier to notice. There are beautiful shots but they aren't always precise with purpose and are even dare I say superfluous. With A Silent Voice, it feels like every single audiovisual component is a result of Yamada's desired aesthetic, every frame and its temporal-spatial canvass filled with the emotions and information she wants to convey and its beyond any reasonable explanation just how precise the film excels as a culmination of her career, someone who has always paid close attention to body language in control of a film where the characters mainly communicate non-verbally. That's not mentioning the complex use of sound and storyboards as Ishida's subjective reality in ways that totally separate and elevate it from the source material.

>>157384164
Honestly, i think the people complaining are manga readers who got flustered it isn't a 1:1 copy of the manga.


The solution, is that they should've made this a series instead of the constant trash LNs they were pushing to TV

>>157370363
Nothing, it was a great film.

Stop being a contrarian fuck for once in your life.

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>>157384032
>If you liked that, you'll like Koe no Katachi

>>157385567
Let's face the facts here, it wouldn't be as good as a series because there's less creative control you can utilize when you have to deal with scheduling and length. It would be a boring 1:1 adaptation. People say Kyoani shows and movies have the same cinematic quality but no one is retarded enough to believe Haruhi and Tamako Market look as visually competent and experimental as Disappearance and Love Story.

>>157370363
I don't know why the blonde girl and the readhair guy were there, they were totally irrelevants. I liked the movie, especially the first part but, I didn't like how silly Nishimiya was. I would have liked her to tell that bitch Ueno to go to hell.

>>157385302
I can't say I'm fond of the "sasuga Yamada" mentality but I mostly agree, all the aesthetic components do come together beautifully. Had kind of the opposite experience with Kimi no Na wa though - with the exception of the spectacular cave scene everything felt very cohesive and even to the point of being uninteresting. When I watch Koe no Katachi I see drawings so beautiful and delicate it feels as though they could fall apart if I so much as breathe, and when I watch Kimi no Na wa I see clean, shiny plastic cut from a template.

>>157370363
Cut content: the movie

>>157385831
>CONSOLE WARS: THE POST
Go back to /v/ if you want to defend your purchase

>>157385735
When most of the complaints are: x scene not making it to the film, I know that this would work as a TV series

>>157385883
Man what the hell are you even talking about?

Keit-ai came out and obliterated that at the box office even though KnK is the highest grossing KyoAni movie.

>>157386065
>I can make an apples to apples comparison between the most memed anime movie that even normies shill, and a movie I didn't watch

>>157386180
I honestly don't understand what you're getting at. Are you so upset that someone compared things?

>>157386180
>apples to apples comparison

What's the issue here

>>157386293
If you want to drag out this 'console war' mentality, go back to /v/, fuckturd

>>157384787
There's nothing artistic about anything Kyoani does in anyway. The direction style in every thing they do is what you're defining Shinkai's movie as. Only reason Yamada's direction stands out is because of the scene composition and perception control. But only a pseudo intellectual who took cinema classes in high school would define how someone does their scene composition as more artsy. There's no hierarchy about conveying a shot, there's a lot of depth in simplicity. If you know your cinema anime, you'd realize there's an inherent beauty about the simplistic approach to scene composition. Look at people of Ghibli, Hosoda or as far back as Dezaki.
But also your argument of Your Name being less artistic falls apart when you realize that the movie is full of Shinkaisms. From the narrative structure to sound structure to bare bones direction, everything is of Shinkai's choice. But please go ahead and tell me more similar factory made anime.
Also I don't see how tightly structured anime has inherently better animation vs less structured anime. Look at the whole body of work of Hiroshi Hamasaki, it has some of the most overtly structured composition and plays with perception and then look at the work of Shinya Ohira, there's almost no structure to it. And you can tell which one is better animated just by looking at it.

I would preferred if they at least kept the visit to Ishidas old school in, but it can't be helped

>>157386137
you're name is a shitty unrealisric movie anyway

>dude body swap lmao

Almost LN pandering tier

>>157386331
Just because they released at the same time means you could do a straight comparison. But 4chan always wants to push " you can't like x if you like y"

>>157386335
You're incomprehensible

>>157386368
Upvoted, will share to tumblr

>>157386368
Wow you just responded to a whole bunch of stuff I didn't say.
>there's nothing artistic about anything Kyoani does in any way
I'm hardly a Kyoani stan but you're not making it easy for me to take you seriously when you say retarded shit like this.

>>157386391
I like both you retard, are you so thin-skinned you have to throw a fit every time you see things compared?

>>157385831
>shiny plastic cut from a template
You sure you want to be stating that after in the same argument that you're praising Kyoani?

>>157370363
I really enjoyed the movie. Bringing in the other kids from elementary school seemed pointless. And I felt the ending was a little too happy for the tone of the movie. Not saying it was bad, but it would've have been a lot more stirring if shouya had died

>>157386487
Thanks, I like Keion avatar, so now.
>>157386544
>I'm hardly a Kyoani stan but you're not making it easy for me to take you seriously when you say retarded shit like this.
Yes, we all know Kyoani is the paragon of artistic value in 21st century animation. Nice argument anywho, really got my neurons fired up.

>>157386637
I'm praising Koe no Katachi, don't misunderstand. I don't care to open that can of worms

>>157386725
So Koe no Katachi doesn't have the Kyoani visual aesthetics, is that what you are saying?

>>157386716
Thanks for confirming my suspicion that you weren't worth having a conversation with

My Generation felt really out of place with the cutesy KyoAni visuals.

>>157386801
I'm saying Koe no Katachi is beautifully animated and that the drawings are full of life.

>>157386908
But they're still of Kyoani aesthetics? How do you then go about criticising anyone else of shiny plastic cut from template? I hope for your sake that you were being ironic.

>>157387105
If you want to talk about Koe no Katachi, talk about Koe no Katachi. If you want to talk about Kyoani aesthetics, talk to somebody else

>>157386851
its an OP
and its meant to illustrate that young shoya is all about excitement and hates boring stuff

and its KINO

>>157386851
When I heard they were using the song I was pretty sceptical, but I actually thought it worked out great. Also put me on a Who kick the past couple of days. Who's Next? is fucking so sweet.

>>157370363
The premise/backstory was infinitely better than everything that followed

>>157386851
It caught me off guard, but it really does capture young Shoya really well

>>157376258
There is literally nothing wrong with template OP's aside the lack of creativity, what matters is the content of each thread, fuck off newfag.

I wanted to like it more but it felt a bit rushed and confusing at times (partly because the subs were straight from google translate)

It simply lacked the emotional impact of Kimi no Na wa

>>157386851
At first I found it odd but it fit the theme of nostalgia where everything felt awesome as a kid.

>>157370363
>What went wrong?
Remove the movie project was a great mistake

>>157387184
>they're exclusive, I swer. B-based Yamada
This is how stupid you sound.

>>157387401
Thanks for letting me know, move along

>>157386180
>memed
>normies
>normies shill
>all of these while calling /v/

>>157387450
>I have no rebuttal
Good to know, move along.

>>157370446
yes

forced drama, too much angst, time constraints led to zero character development. i mean the source material wasn't much better but the entire cast of "friends" are together for maybe 2 minutes tops and you don't know anything about any of them. the only 2 decent characters were yuzuru and the fat afro friend.

deaf girl gets the least development for being a main heroine. yeah she's deaf but the movie doesn't even remotely try to convey what she's feeling as a character inside. suddenly she's in love and suddenly just wants to die and then suddenly wants to reunite spiky hair with his "friends" who again, he's known for a minute.

very disappointing.

>>157373325
>The romance is incidental, it's not the driving force of the story.
Wrong, the author should've never brought it up if you didn't want people to be drawn to the idea of this fucking idiot getting with this hot deaf chick. To many people it was the driving force and Shouko trying to kill herself really sealed the deal with the shit spiral this manga hit.

who Kimi>Koe here?

>>157388008
Everyone except contrarions.

>>157388006
I feel like if they focused on the romance more and had more time to let things settle down before bringing up more drama this would of been a much better movie

>>157375026
So no stupid cliffhanger? It's an improvement then.

>>157388326
I didn't watch the movie. I'm talking about the manga.

>people on /a/ are unironically defending Forced Animation and Forced Drama: The Movie
Huh, didn't realize studiofaggotry had gotten this high here.

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Kawai never got her punishment.

Everyone in this film is a cunt

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for what purpose does he exist? they may as well have just written him out

The Fact that there Are so many People butthurt over this Movie is just a Sign of how good It really Is.

>>157389838
There's literally no animation in this movie.

>>157384164
Nice blog, where do I subscribe?

>>157390615
nyaa dot si

>>157370363
The editing was so bad.
Like, who the fuck thought this was a good idea. The story is all over the place.
Also, every character felt like a plot device.
The nigger baby was cute tho.

>>157391014
>nigger baby
She was half Brazilian mate

>>157370363
He didn't end up with Ueno

>>157390468
Wanted to appeal to source material readers.

>>157390577
Even the non animation is forced, that's how meme this studio is.

>>157370363
Nothing. Yamada is life. Yamada is love.

>>157375068
>tfw there is shareblue on /a/

Is it better than Beijing Bycicle?

>>157385567
Lmao the mango was utter shit anyways. Im fucking glad they removed those ueno rape scenes and mashiba's elitism

>>157391715
>>>/pol/

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>tfw deaf fags won.