Guldo can't stop time

>>157351203
>caring about the plot holes in dragon ball

just how autistic are you ?

>>157351203
That wasn't him stopping time though. That was just telekinesis. Completely different power.

>>157352362
This. OP is so retarded he can't even understand Dragon Ball.

Hey stop bullying OP

>>157353897
OP is dumb

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>>157353938

So guys was the U6 tournament arc one of the worst arcs in Super?
It had shit like
>Half the fighters designs being uninspired as fuck
>Piccolo jobbing again
>Vegeta Jobbing again
>Buu getting shafted
>Making the U6 Saiyans to be pussies like Cabba
>No Namekians
>Monaka being a lol he's secretly weak but people think he's strong gag when we had that two times in DB
What did I miss?

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Why is Goku so handsome?

Okay im gonna flat out say this, this is fucking ertarded that Goku just suddenly going "lol I can fight on par with Merged Zamasu now because iv MASTERED SSB OUT OF NOWHERE!"

Like really? If Goku was that strong Black and Zamasu would of been no threat at all before the Fusion but they clearly were still shown as being threats (though less than in the anime).
That level of power jump dwarfs Gohan's recent one or even Trunks in the anime.

Keep in mind last chapter, Goku was shown being absolutely no match for Merged Zamasu and literally being knocked back into base by one blow.

This is just SSJ Ikari all over again

>>157354632
Only a few here actually defend this.

Everyone is shitting on it, you're not the only one.

>>157354632
>This is just SSJ Ikari all over again
You wish.

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>>157354073

>>157354692
>SSJIkari=plot armor

>FSSB= plot armor

It's the same shit

>>157354632
>Keep in mind last chapter, Goku was shown being absolutely no match for Merged Zamasu and literally being knocked back into base by one blow.

A SSB Goku using 10% of his full power

>>157354632
Do they explain why Zamasu is fucking around when he could just kill Goku and Vegeta very easily?

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I love when Toyo doesn't make homage shit, because his fights are fucking good

>>157354632
Toyotaro is trying to compete with Toei on who can pull off the biggest asspull

.>>157354743
Yeah, it's worse actually.

Goku didn't master SSB a chpter ago, but now he mastered it NOW, suddenly, huge power boost, just like that

>>157354766
He should stick to drawing and fight choreography

>>157354762
Zamasu is a retard, in both anime and manga

>>157354743
>h-he was holding back argument
The manga has just reached Toei filler tier of shitness.

>>157354762
No, zamasu love to torture like a retard, even thought his strenght is time limited, even thought he was almost killed by them a chapter ago

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>>157354771
>but now he mastered it NOW, suddenly, huge power boost, just like that

Not yet

>>157354784
Why hasn't the DB room appointed someone to write for him?
That way he can draw good fights without us having to suffer through his retarded writing.

>>157354771
Toei is still worst but I agree with you, Toyo has made a shitty asspull here.

Why not giving one to trunks at this point?

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Miss me?

>>157354822
>FPSSJGSSJ is Kaioken now
What?

>>157354794
He wasn't holding back, SSB consumes a lot of stamina and you get weaker if you use it many times in a row

>>157354771
There's a scene where Trunks notes that Goku used SSB even after he said he didn't have enough energy left for it. I guess that was meant to be foreshadowing for him mastering the form. Although, I agree that it was too little.

>>157354859
Yeah so having him master it out of nowhere right now seems like an asspull.

>>157354858
Well, people wanted kaioken in the manga right?

Now the stronger form of SSB is kaioken, and everyone can stop bitching about it

>>157354866
Maybe Goku got a Zenkai from Trunks' magic hands.

>>157353967
If they fucking brink Monaka AGAIN.... I swear to Kami I will bomb TOEI. They already used that joke twice, it wasn't funny either time and if Beerus is stupid enough to not tell the truth when his entire universe is in danger then this is officially the worst written shounen.

>>157354864
Show the scene please.

I don't remember one like that, maybe it was a shitty translation

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>>157354897
>this is officially the worst written shounen.
Where have you been?

>>157354897
He isn't coming back for ToP at least, the 10 fighters are known and the tour starting.

>>157354892
No Toyo wrote it himself that Goku and Vegeta can't get Zenkai boosts anymore.

>>157354892
>Isn't suppoed to gen zenkai anymore
>Get one conveniently

>>157354891
>Comparing something Goku trained for to something that was suddenly mastered in the middle of a fight
>MUH 4 years of training who didn't show any result a chapter ago

>>157354886
It's not the first time Goku pulls something out of his ass, and ripped clothes Goku always looks cool, so it doesn't bother me

>>157354918
Senseless? Maybe, but it was still a really nice scene and Trunks deserved that.

>>157354949
>Trunks deserved that.
He deserved a Fairy Tail tier asspull? You must not like the character then.

>>157354897
>Monaka
>tfw we could've had a cool fighter stronger than Goku who wasn't a Saiyan or a god
>We could actually have him get a cool move set that's different than the rest
>waste it for a gag that was already overused by Satan
Why?

>>157354851
I got my Tao Pai Pai fix by watching Breath of the Wild speedruns

>>157354941
>It's not the first time Goku pulls something out of his ass

Super saiyan was foreshadowed, and it was a new transformation.

Full powered SSJ goku needed to train for that, him being genius explain just the fact that he trained the best to obtain it.


Here it's different, no result a chapter ago, it appear now

>>157354949
>Trunks deserved that.

Getting his timeline deleted? Yeah that annoying faggot deserved it

So what are they going to do after the Universal Survival arc?

>>157354974
I never said something about super saiyan or the mastered one from the cell saga

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I guess it's too late to ask for a portal combo Zamasu in XV2, r-right?

>>157355024
So why didn't Zamasu use that before?

>>157355024
Best part of the chapter though it was ruined by Zamasu being a retard and not killing Goku right then and there.

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>>157355024
Yep

>>157355041
>*next chapter shows up and Black was just wanting another zenkai*
He wasnt aware that zamasu will save him you fucking liar

>>157355009
How is it different, not even full mastered but he's able to fight on par with MG.

Mastering the form when he didn't have it mastered yesterday, and spent the whole day at Roshi's place practicing the mafuba, is a huge asspull.

>>157355061
Well that could be Toriyama's doing as Zamasu didn't kill Goku neither in the anime nor the manga

>>157355092
>Retarded shit is ok if it's in both version
>Toyotaro is never at fault

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>>157355083
>you fucking liar
Cry more

>>157355009
Bro the anime arc was shit nobody is denying that but Goku mastering SSJB from out of nowhere is an asspull
>he didn't master it fully
Going from being weaker than Zamasu to be able to match him is retarded no matter how you try to justify it.

>>157355111
I'm not saying it's good, I'm just saying it's possible that it was a part of Toriyama's notes in the first place.

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>>157355046
I don't know, but it looks cool so I don't care

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>>157355116
Cry more

>>157355009
>>157355041
Don't forget the Kaioshin and God of Destruction link. When that chapter came out everyone was calling the manga fanfic tier and complaining about how Old Kai should still be alive.

Then the Kaioshin and God of Destruction link also appears in the anime and the manga shows Future Trunks' version of the Majin arc where Z sword was destroyed.

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>>157355083
>Black was sure that zamasu will save him

Are you retarded?

>>157355182
>No U!!!!
Top kek
What's that pic meant to prove?

>>157355235
Meant to reply to >>157355116

>>157355253
You were saying that black was holding back, even though he was almost killed by Vegeta

>>157355271
>even though he was almost killed by Vegeta
Pay attention retard.

>>157355041
>"b-but how SS Black lose against not!Blue Vegeta if he's already SS3 tier in base form?
>not!Blue Vegeta

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>The autistic manga color elitist who says all auras should be yellow is a spic

I thought the spic autism was only a meme

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>>157355305
>Pay attention retard.
>Black was holding back
>Even though Zamasu wasn't here to heal him
>Even though Vegeta was about to finish him

Pay attention retard

>>157355235
Black face looks so fucking weird sometimes, he looks fat there

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>>157355347
>being this retarded
wew

>>157355378
>No argument

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>>157355378
>Black tried to get a zenkai from Vegeta
>Even though zamasu wasn't here
>Only appeared at the end to save him
>But he was holding back to get a zenkai even though he can't heal himself
>Being this retarded

>This entire thread is Toyocucks trying to justify the manga's retarded asspulls
Can't they agree that the manga is shit and move on?
I don't know why are they wasting time trying to come up with excuses for Toyo's and Toriyama's retarded asspulls.

>>157355408
See >>157355305

>>157355412
>being this retarded
wew

>"b-but how SS Black lose against not!Blue Vegeta if he's already SS3 tier in base form?
>not!Blue Vegeta

As in SS2 Black wasn't going all out against SS2 Vegeta, instead stalling for Future Zamasu to come back.

>>157355347
Future Zamasu was weaker than Black how could he step in and save Black then?

>>157355469
They want to believe that DBS is somehow good.

They are the most delusional part of DB fanbase

>>157355485
>As in SS2 Black wasn't going all out against SS2 Vegeta, instead stalling for Future Zamasu to come back.

Why would he hold back his power if Zamasu wasn't here to heal him?

Do you have a brain?

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>it's a Vegeta jobs chapter
I don't know why but I always find it hilarious whenever that manlet gets his shit pushed in

>>157355514
Jesus you're retarded.
I said it right there

>As in SS2 Black wasn't going all out against SS2 Vegeta, instead stalling for Future Zamasu to come back.

>>157355512
Because Zamasu wasn't destroyed by Vegeta at this moment.

He was able to move because he wasn't tired, unlike black who was apprently destroyed by Vegeta because he was "holding back"

>>157355551
See >>157354866

>>157355581
Nice one, retard

>Both the manga black arc and the anime black arc was shit and filled with asspulls
The fuck was Tori's original outline?
>Goku or Trunks get an asspull power up lol
>Zeno arrives and oneshots Zamasu
>Vegito jobs due to time powerup
Is that it?
How did they make such a shit arc when they were planing it for god knows how long, had an outline of what should happen, and had two chances to make it good?

>>157355551
>instead stalling for Future Zamasu to come back

But he was about to be killed at the end you fucking retard, see >>157355347

Why stalling again here?

>>157355556
but the attack of Vegeta should be faster than Manga version of Future Zamasu who is like SSG strong

>>157355612
>see >>157355347
Retard, read the damn post.

>As in SS2 Black wasn't going all out against SS2 Vegeta, instead stalling for Future Zamasu to come back
>out against SS2 Vegeta,

Why are you showing me Black against SSB Vegeta?

>>157355618
Not like an attack dodged by someone weaker than the one who launched it isn't something new in DB

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>>157355659

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>>157355024
yes
he and his skill are already done

>>157355720
>retarded halo version
why

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>>157355720
Bio Broly version when?

>>157355735
because you need to praise and adore him

>>157355720
>Death ball

That shit was always boring

>>157355517
This is even worse actually.

Goku didn't fully mastered SSB but can fight on par with Merged Zamasu, a guy who destroyed SSB Vegeta.

It was stated numerous times in the manga that Goku and Vegeta are pretty close in term of strenght.

the (almost) FSSB is a fucking asspull

>>157355756
i hope never
that form is retarded as fuck

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>>157355756
but anon that version won a power struggle with SSBVegito

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>>157355796
He'll probably have pic related too.

>>157355810
At least he wasn't a weakass in the anime.

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>>157354454
Manga Mai is adorable

>>157355834
that's not Susanoo that's the holy spirit

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>>157355796
he has more skills

>>157353938
>we get to see Cabba doing his best at making two girls cry

>>157355834
Susanoo was already inspired by japanse myth anyway

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>>157355847
He disagrees.

>asking the sky for a powerup after getting rekted by Goku.

Wait why is everyone so assmad?
Did toyo fuck up something?

>>157355893
>Cabba
>making Caulifla cry
But how?

>>157355900
>Goku fucked his arm to do that
>In the manga, he's just stronger than Merged Zamasu now

>>157355909
Nah just Toei shills shitposting over an untranslated chapter as always.

>>157355909
He did. Suddenly mastering SSJ Blue makes Goku stronger than Zamasu.

>>157355929
>>Goku fucked his arm to do that
And? He still overpowered Merged Zamasu when he was weaker than Black.


>In the manga, he's just stronger than Merged Zamasu now
Wrong.

>>157355909
>Did toyo fuck up something?
Huge Asspull

>>157355930
>Nah just Toei shills shitposting over an untranslated chapter as always.

A lot of pages are out, the majority of them are summared you fucking retard

>>157355965
>being this triggered
Top kek

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>>157355918
why can't we have the opposite?

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>>157355900
Then he gets rekted by Future Trunks.

>>157355962
>Overpowering by using is entire power directly
Okay and

>Wrong

See >>157354766
>>157354822

>Merged Zamasu, struggling against a guy who was one shotted by him

>>157355909
>Did toyo fuck up something?
>Goku going AFPSSJGSSJ from out of nowhere
>Trunks getting a healing ability from out of nowhere
>AFPSSJGSSJ matching Merged Zamasu
You tell me.

>Goku becoming stronger
>somehow worse than genkidama sword
You have to remember that Zamasu was at best Super Vegeta levels, so any fusion with him won't be too strong

>>157355962
>And? He still overpowered Merged Zamasu when he was weaker than Black.

Piccolo killed radditz because he was stronger than him?

>>157356035
>Goku becoming stronger
>Out of nowhere

>>157355962
>He still overpowered Merged Zamasu when he was weaker than Black.
he used Kaioken and Merged Zamasu took a losing beam struggle which no other villain has done without taking damage then took damage in the second beam struggle

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>>157355799
>the (almost) FSSB is a fucking asspull
Like this?

>>157356016
How about you look at the final page. Merged Zamasu is fine, Goku is barely keeping it together.

The chapter even says Goku is stalling for time, retard.

>>157356054
>Like this

Yes, SSJ Ikari and FSSB are both huge asspull

>>157356068
>How about you look at the final page. Merged Zamasu is fine, Goku is barely keeping it together.

Maybe because he's immortal?

Was zamasu stronger than SSB Goku just with his immortality?

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>>157356053
>he used Kaioken
Wrong, he overpowered Merged Zamasu without Kaioken. Then he used Kaioken later.

>>157356068
How about you look at the entire fight?
Because it seems that Goku is equal to Zamasu and making him struggle sometimes when he shouldn't be able to.
>>157356054
Yes just like this.
Can't believe the manga is Toei filler tier now.

>>157356068
>The chapter even says Goku is stalling for time, retard.

Merged Zamasu can't kill him.

He look fine because he's immortal.

Does he have scratch from Vegeto?

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>>157356129

>>157356107
>FSSB
>Not AFPSSGSS
You're doing it wrong.

>>157356178
>AFPSSGSS
>Still able to fight on par with Merged Zamsasu

It's worse actually

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>>157356129
>Merged Zamasu took a losing beam struggle which no other villain has done without taking damage then took damage in the second beam struggle

>>157355887
they really need to implement customization auras already

>>157356043
>Piccolo overpowered Raditz
Bro he used a technique to kill Raditz that would've never worked if he wasn't held down by Goku and weakened by Gohan.

>>157356237
they are too lazy for that

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>>157356068
> Merged Zamasu is fine
>Fine thanks to his immortality
>Still mad because he's overpowered by Goku
>Look fine

Are you retarded?

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Leave Goku to me!

>>157356107
>>157356133
>>157356145
>Maybe because he's immortal?
You mean like Future Zamasu do couldn't shit to SSG Goku?

Whats the A in AFPSSGSS

>>157356243
The point is that enemies can't get injured by character weaker than them, or surprise them with beam.

Cell dodged Vegeta's final flash at the last moment

>>157356267
>Goku holding his arm his pain
Thanks for proving right retard.

>>157356267
Why does manga merged zamasu look so much like goku

>>157356282
Asperger

>>157356264
it would take like, one guy one working day if you just made it cosmetic

>>157356300
>The point is that enemies can't get injured by character weaker than them
Wrong the Special Beam cannon increased Piccolo's power level. Go read the manga.

>>157356318
Because he is a fusion of Goku's body and Zamasu's body.

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>>157356311
>Thanks for proving right retard.

As if nothing happened before.

Zamasu throw himself in this house I guess

>>157356340
Then it's the same shit for every other beam you fucking retard

>>157356318
Because he's a fusion of Black Goku and Zamasu?

Who you guys be mad if they 'copied' Broly's transformation scene for Kale?

>>157356338
same could be said about tails and spiky ssj
but since we have none of these things
we will never have it

>>157356348
Yes, just like in the manga, but goku can fuck Merged Zamasu by himself now.

>>157356276
Can Jiren handle AFPSSGSS Goku? And if he can can he handle UAFPSSGSS Gohan?

>>157356367
>Then it's the same shit for every other beam you fucking retard
Which is why Goku's ki overpowering Merged Zamasu ki is retarded you retard.

>>157356279
>One shotted SSB Vegeta and Goku a chapter ago
>Vegeta and Goku are supposed to be close in term of strenght, as it was stated by Whis
>Struggle now against SSB Goku

>>157356386
I mean I wouldn't hold it against them, but I wouldn't be disappointed if they did

>>157356399
>UAFPSSGSS
Make it Stop!

>>157356425
At least he needed beam for that, even though it's still retarded

In the manga, he's just stronger, look how Merged Zamasu struggle against him when a chapter ago, he fucked them easily.

>>157356399
Yes but he can't handle UAFPSSGLMSS4 Goku

>>157356464
>At least he needed beam for that, even though it's still retarded
What do you mean at least? Goku beat Merged Zamasu in a clash of power when he was weaker than Black. That's the worse way they could have went about it.

>>157356493
Yes just give him some piccolo juice

>>157356434
you never read a martial arts story before? shit like the clarity of your mind and your determination to win are what really determines the outcome of the fight, most of the training is more about understanding a spiritual lesson than the physical exertion.

>>157356434
This.

Vegeta closed the gap between him and Goku just with his SS2.

Even if Goku is stronger than him, their gap shouldn't be big.

This chapter implies that Goku was miles ahead stronger than Vegeta since the beginning of the arc

>>157356507
>That's the worse way they could have went about it.
>Just said a post ago "Special Beam cannon increased Piccolo's power level"
>Forget that Goku's kamehameha, also increased his power

It's still retarded but at least, he needed beam for that.

Goku in the manga, is just stronger than Zamasu

>FPSSGSS
>AFPSSGSS
>UAFPSSGSS
>And now UAFPSSGLMSS4
When are they gonna stop with the transformation already? I don't even know what half of these mean.

>>157356563
>but at least, he needed beam for that
See >>157356507

>What do you mean least? Goku beat Merged Zamasu in a clash of power when he was weaker than Black. That's the worse way they could have went about it.

He even called himself weak afterwards.

>>157356554
>you never read a martial arts story
So, power scaling is useless in DB?

>shit like the clarity of your mind and your determination to win are what really determines the outcome of the fight
So asspull are fine?

>most of the training is more about understanding a spiritual lesson than the physical exertion
Yeah, except a chapter ago, no result from it, no hint about it, few minutes later, HUGE POWER BOOST

>>157356512
Then Goku will just go KKx20AFPSSGLMSS4

>>157356464
Because Goku was only using a 10% of his power

>>157356598
See Goku Vs raditz again.

Goku couldn't do shit with his fist but Raditz was afraid by his beams because it level up his power.

Goku needed beams to hurt meegrd zamasu and needed kaioken to hurt him physically.

In the manga, he's just stronger.

>>157356639
>Goku's SSB was miles ahead of Vegeta's SSB all along

Please stop

>>157356686
>Goku is stronger than Vegeta

yeah, and the sky is blue, anon

>>157356663
>Goku couldn't do shit with his fist but Raditz was afraid by his beams because it level up his power.
You're reaching that wasn't a beam struggle. That wasn't a CLASH OF POWER. In a beam struggle the stronger person should always win.

Again
>He even called himself weak afterwards.
>>157355900


Plus Raditz tanked the Kamehameha anyway.

>>157356606
>So, power scaling is useless in DB?
yes they had two whole arcs going into depth about how meaningless an endeavor it is to try and catalogue that shit when shit like anger or grief or hope can cause a huge spike in power and a magic fat green man can mutter some mumbo jumbo to give you a free rank up

>>157356714
>Goku, who didn't trained like Vegeta did since the beginning of this arc
>It was stated numerous time by Whis that both of them are close in term of strenght
>Lul now is stronger, now their gap in power is huge ass fuck

>>157356734
in a beam struggle the person with a better beam should win

What's worse about Goku's retarded power up is not the asspullish way it was handled in. It's the fact that it makes the climax yet again Goku time and devalues Vegeta's effort to master SSJB when Goku just masters it as an afterthought.
It's basically he gets a powerup and beats the arc villain because he's the MC and not because of his own efforts.
Not to mention that they could've just had Vegito and Zamasu defusing at the same time to avoid all of this bullshit and give Trunks something to do in his own arc

>>157356780
>a better beam should win
Which is the stronger one

>>157356734
>That wasn't a CLASH OF POWER

Yeah, I've stated that it was retarded, but still, he needed a beam to hurt merged zamasu at least, still retarded though.

Goku can do that in the manga with just his fist alone, it's actually worse

>>157356799
>Yeah, I've stated that it was retarded,
Glad we agree about that then.

>>157356788
>>157356788
>devalues Vegeta's effort to master SSJB

This

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>>157356734
>In a beam struggle the stronger person should always win.
Me and Broly disagree with you

>>157356829
Yeah but it doesn't hide the flaws in the actual chapter.

Goku overpowering Merged Zamasu with just physical attacks is retarded

>>157356865
Gohan was stronger than Cell. Don't care about non canon movies.

>>157356897
Cell was stronger than one armed SSJ2 Gohan or 1ASSJ2 Gohan

Has someone translated the whole chapter? I want to apply text.

>>157356920
Nah he wasn't. Plus Gohan's arm don't matter he's shooting a beam.

>>157356881
no its not
zamasu is a weak little shit and black fusing with him made him weaker

>>157356386
>Toei thinking they really need to drive the point home that much
Surely they can't be that retarded... oh god

>>157356977
>zamasu is a weak little shit and black fusing with him made him weaker
>One shotted Vegeta SSB
>He's weaker

>>157354766
I don't understand how he goes from lifting up his right leg to kicking with the left.

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>>157356897
then explain how SPC beam for Vegeta left him without an arm and the need to distract Cell

>>157356995
>>One shotted Vegeta SSB
things that never happened

>>157356831
Yeah like the problems with Goku mastering SSJB is more than the fact that it was retarded. It's the fact that it was
>an asspull
>had no build up or set up
>devalues Vegeta's effort to master SSJB
>makes Trunks even more useless in his own arc
>turns the climax into yet again Goku time when nobody wants that anymore
>Is retarded and makes Zamasu look like a bigger joke
There are more problems with this than I can list but in short it's retarded and an asspull.

>>157356756
And grass is green

>>157357056
still better than that spirit bomb sword asspull

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>>157357024
>things that never happened

>>157357056
>>an asspull
This

>had no build up or set up
>devalues Vegeta's effort to master SSJB
This

>makes Trunks even more useless in his own arc
His healing abilities is cool though

>turns the climax into yet again Goku time when nobody wants that anymore
>Is retarded and makes Zamasu look like a bigger joke
I agree

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>>157357016
Why can't you faggots read the manga?

>>157357056
Toyotaro was behind Goku Time fan sequel and even pussified Omega Shenron

>memelevels discussion

wew

>>157357105
are you blind
thats ssg not blue

>>157357108
>GOODBYE!!!
>Vegeta still distracts him
thanks for proving my point

>>157356940
Some anon did it on twitter.

So basically, vegeta's explanation is:

>Goku has mastered SSB better than me
>He's a genius
>I'm inferior to him

Which is retarded because no result from it a chapter ago.

Also, even if he full master SSB out of nowhere, how does that make him attain zamasu's level?

The level of the guy who one shotted SSB Vegeta?

>>157357162
How do you tell the difference when it's not in color

>>157357163
>being this retarded
wew

>>157357180
eyes

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>>157357162
>Not blue form

What about here?

>>157357180
look at the eyes
ssb has no black pupil

>>157357213
>He one shot SSB Vegeta!!!
>Page clearly shows multiple hits
What did they mean by this?

>>157356663
Radditz was surprised at the multiplication of P's and G's powerlvls. he swatted the Kamehameha away because it was what, like 900 plvl? he was afraid of P's beam cannon because that was nominally stronger than Radditz at something like 1300 plvl while Radditz had around 1200 (later confirmed by Nappa as he says the saibamen were as strong as Radditz). 1300>1200, that's why Radditz was afraid and that's why he died.

>>157357213
Those who blindly suck Toyo's cock are getting delusional

>M-merged zamasu was a weakass all along
Kek!

>>157357250
The point is that SSB Vegeta was nothing for Zamasu

>>157357213
thats just vegeta being vegeta
also vegeta has gone multiple times blue
which makes its weaker

>>157357250
The point is that he easily took out SSGSS Vegeta so how can AFPSSGSS Goku even compete?

>>157357280
>also vegeta has gone multiple times blue
which makes its weaker
>Let's forget the SSG/SSB switch which allowed him to not lose stamina

>>157357287
zenkai boost

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>>157357344
>Toyo said that Goku can't use zenkai anymore
>Now can

>>157357344
He wrote himself out of one though.

>>157357363
>trunks is now toyo
also
>shin saying bluegetto is stronger than beerus

>>157356178
>FSSB
>AFPSSGSS
>FPSSJGSSJ
no really, what are you people talking about? I assume some moonrunes in the manga

>>157357253
NITICE ME SNEPAI!

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Who designed Yurin?
Is she filler?
Is she canon?

>>157357403
>trunks is now toyo
What?
>shin saying bluegetto is stronger than beerus
What does that have to do with anything?

>>157357403
>Goku and Vegeta didn't get zenkai from before
>Now goku get one
>Being this retarded to the point of saying that Trunks statement has no purpose

>also
>shin saying bluegetto is stronger than beerus
>Forget the more accurate translation saying that it might have attain Beerus's level

>>157357449
toei animation
yes
yes

>>157357449
Toei, yes, no

>>157357496
How can you tell she's filler? I mean...she appeared in a canon episode (89) and she basically is Tien's motif for entering the Tournament....

>>157354897
They're bringing Freeza retard

>>157357138
>this autist again
wew

>>157357531
>Freeza
It's spelled Furiza!

>>157357458
zenkais are a plot device used whenever its convenient

>>157357597
But Goku and Vegeta can't use it anymore in the manga you fucking retard

>>157357547
>waaah don't ruin my discussions about random numbers!

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>>157357531
>They're bringing Freeza retard
At this point it could go either way. Either Frieza joins, or the Frieza episode will be a fake-out and Buu remains in the team. I'm inclined to believe the latter because of how prominently Buu has been featured in merchandise revolving around the most hyped up arc in Super, but on the other hand it does seem Toriyama-like to do the stupidest thing possible and then congratulate himself for catching his audience by surprise. Because promising something the fans have been wanting for 20 years and then pulling a fast one on them can be justified by saying "gag anime".

>>157357674
>just because trunks said they can't use zenkai anymore
retard

>>157357697
>waaah why are you discussing stuff

>>157357706
honestly Frieza is cuter than Buu so I hope we get Frieza instead

>>157357706
Buu isn't coming back you absolute FUCKING retard, there is already god damn promotional material featuring Frieza holy shot kill yourself

>>157357706
But muh Freez

>>157357718
>A statement by a character that was never contradicted or has shown or portrayed as being a lie
>wrong
Retard.

>>157357718
>Trunks statement, written by toyo, has no purpose

>>157357736
prove it

>>157357194
HUR FULL POWER GOHAN WAS STRONGER AND THAT'S WHY VEGETA DISTRACTION WASN'T NEEDED DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR

>>157357749
>trunks is a leading authority on zenkai
double retard

>>157357754
>shins statement on ssb vegito being stronger than beerus is accurate

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>>157357736
Are you seriously calling me a retard and telling me to kill myself because I haven't seen the newest promotional material yet? Why the needless agression? Why couldn't you just say "there is already promotional material featuring Frieza" without all the insults? Does having more information about a fucking cartoon than some stranger on the internet make you feel better about yourself?

Please rethink your life and the decisions that brought you here.

>>157357783
Was Trunks statement ever been shown to be untruthful or wrong?
No?
Then fuck off retard.

>>157357783
See >>157357754

>double retard

yeah, lets forget that trunks is also a saiyan

>>157355720
that halo is gonna look great on my donut steels

Wasn't Trunks' statement that Goku's and Vegeta's bodies were at their limit, thus couldn't it be as simple as Goku breaking his limit?

>>157357763
Prove you're not a retarded faggot

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>>157357597
The zenkai could have been a good explanation of Goku>Merged Zamasu here.

Except that it was dropped

>>157357873
i made you mad

>>157357817
Kill yourself, cuck.

>>157357783
dude trunks isnt even fucking REAL

>>157357877
>probably
That makes it sound like it could still happen.

>finally read the entire thing
Does anyone speak enough moon to translate all of this? Is there a translation somewhere? Surely there's some kind of explanation in here.

>>157357942
>reaching this hard

Please stop

>>157357896
ahaha le cuck maymay XD

>>157357950
See @Herms98 twitter

>>157357942
Then it's one of the worst retcons and makes Toyo look retarded for ever adding that statement.

>>157357763
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/assets/img/chara/chapter4/no07/u07_furiiza.png

>>157358008
>Goku can fight at full power for longer
>nothing about how he's strong enough to fight Zamasu, though
Fuck

>>157358047
>put frieza promo art up for one-two episodes
>take out once its revealed it was a red herring
wow so hard to understand huh

>>157358018
It's not a zenkai, Vegeta stated that Goku mastered SSB, so no more stamina loss;

He also stated that goku was a genius...etc

>Lul goku is a genius, that explain how he closed the huge gap between ihm and zamas

>>157358100
Apparently, no more stamina loss mean HUGE POWER UP to the point of attaining Merged Zamasu's level in the last chapter

Kek!

>>157357920
Wow, no fucking shit.

>>157358111
Man, you guys really are grasping now. That's amazing.

>>157358100
The guy stated that being able to use full power much longer allowed him to hold his own against merged zamasu.

So goku=merged zamasu now, just because he doesn't lose stamina anymore.

Fucking retarded

>>157357920
if trunks aren't real then how can pants be real

>>157358263
pants aren't real

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It is time to stop.

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>People complain about 17 being SSB level
>The same people don't complain about Goku being Merged Zamasu level a few minutes later in the mango

>>157358292
but if pants aren't real
what am I wearing???

>>157358304
Toyocucks live in their own sad little world

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>>157358305
>wearing
nice meme

>>157358304
Saiyans has zenkai at least.

But Toyotaro was retarded enough to drop this for saiyans like Goku and Vegeta

Trunks didn't even get a big zenkai in this arc

>>157358358
Zenkai has always been retarded and I'm glad that Toriyama realized that. IMO it should only ever work once or twice.

>drop the concept of Zenkai boost
>refuse to utilize kaioken
>bring back SSG for no reason because "m-muh SSB energy drain"
>makes SSG completely useless a couple of chapters later by retconning your own retcon regarding SSB useage

how can Toyotaro be so FUCKING retarded?

>>157358401
Yeah but goku being merged zamasu level just by not losing stamina anymore is more retarded than zenkai itself

Even though no result were shown of it minutes ago

>>157358488
You need to learn how to hypercrisis, anon. Things are only canon if you think they are.

>>157358518
What?

Vegeta's SSB was fucked by merged zamasu, even though vegeta didn't lost stamina from it thanks to the switch

>>157358573
Anon, just ignore it
it never happened
Who's Zamasu? I've already forgotten.

so it looks like manga is going to explain ssrage as 'some weird kai shit'

>>157358718
It will not happen.

Trunks moments are over, he's just dende now

>>157358718
Or Trunks will just get the ultimate form since he took part in that "funky ritual".

>>157358718
Nah Toyo isn't going to use that asspull form.

>>157358793
toyo is the one who convinced tori to put it in his outline in the first place

>>157357977
The guy is right since when does probably means absolute certain?

if Trunks was certain he would have said "My father and Goku CAN no longer power up by reviving..."

I know grammar isn't that popular in the internet these days and autism promotes interpretations that no sane man would ever consider but words still have meanings.

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>>157358602
You don't get that pleasure NINGEN

>>157358855
Hmmm? Who?

>>157358843
The point of that statement is that Goku and Vegeta can't get Zenkai boosts anymore so they can't abuse it to get new levels of power.
If it gets retconed then it comes back to the timeless question of why aren't they abusing the Zenkai boosts anymore?

The fact that Zamasu is struggling to kill goku even though he knows that he has to finish things fast before the fussion expires, is retarded. He either tries his best to kill Goku but can't because Goku and Zamasu are equal in strength, and that's x12 times shitter power scalling than the anime, or he isn't trying to kill Goku and he's just toying with him EVEN THOUGH he knows about the fusion time limit. Either way shitty writing, in the anime at least when Goku overpowered Zamasu it was obvious that Zamasu was barely trying with his Energy Ball, and when Goku exploded with his full power he managed to NOT PUSH BACK but penetrate the energy ball, there's a huge difference that mangacucks wouldn't understand because they know shit about Dragonball.

>>157359460
Trunk believes to be the case and even then he's not sure therefore the "probably".

If it gets back on the board it's the same as for many retarded decisions they did the pride and wanting to get to that level by effort rather than abusing the Zenkais.

Also it would also bring that issue of having a body strong but not having the experience and skills to match it like Vegeta told to Black about Goku's body. Not to mention no one looks fowards to being beaten to an inch of their life to get stronger aside from the Zenkais being irregular.

>>157354851
I sure do!

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>i wish i was at home making donuts

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CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTER!

>>157362484
5,000z on the ghothloli maido

>>157358111
All this denial is amusing to see.

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HEY, guys...

>>157364741
More colors needed

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>>157364741
>IM SO FUCKING FRESH RIGHT NOW
Everytime