> SS Rage + Spirit Bomb Blade
> 1-time healing ability
>Trunks saves everyone's ass again without asspulls but with a foreshadowed ability bonding several relevant points of the DBS and the original DB manga, Kaioshins' rituals, Trunks training with Shin and healing powers that Kaioshin's attendants can use
>COME ON IT WAS BETTER WHEN HE BECAME SSGSS TIER VIA REEEEE AND HE CREATED A GENKI DAMA WITHOUT HAVING HEARD ABOUT THE TECHNIQUE BEFORE
>Goku, the fucking protagonist, did nothing relevant in this arc until recent chapter
>FUCKING GOKU SHOW THIS IS GT AGAIN
>he did it surpassing Vegeta after finally control the form they have been mastering for years
>THIS IS GT AGAIN WHY HE CAN'T BE JUST TWICE STRONGER THAN VEGETA NOW LIKE IN THE ANIME?
>arc isn't ending yet, Toyo is taking his time to end the story unlike he did with the rushed BoG arc because it's not a remake anymore
>OH MY GOD WHY IT'S NOT ENDING YET?
>also they believe Goku being healed means he will take the kill when even the outro liner says he's just trying to milk out as much time as humanly possible to wait out the potaras fusion time limit
Toeishills retardation strikes back
>Trunks healing ability
>Goku going toe to toe with Merged Zamasu
>Perfect SSJB the most asspulls transformation in the series
>Vegeta telling Trunks he should go save Goku
This is the worst chapter in this arc. Seriously is this the worst Super arc since the movie rehashes?
> Turns out, manga-Trunks can use Kibito-style healing powers because he trained as Kaioshin's disciple.
> Goku has "completed" SSB: by sealing its overflowing power within his body, he can fight at full power for long periods of time. @Herms98
> Which enables him to hold his own against Merged Zamasu. Knowing this, Vegeta insists Trunks heals Goku first. @Herms98
> Narrator: "Which will cave first, [Zamasu's] Potara fusion or Goku's body?!" How about a Genkai-Dama sword? @Herms98
> Trunks became Kaioshin's disciple via a day-long funky dance ceremony...just like the first part of Elder Kaioshin's power-up. Coincidence? @Herms98
> But he can only heal one person, and it seems to take a lot out of him. @Herms98
This is the final straw. Fuck Toyo
Toeibros gather here to laugh at the absolute disaster the manga version of the Zamasu arc turned out to be
Spirit Sword was hype and a good concept, the only problem was the execution
> SSB Goku stronger than fucking Merged Zamasu
>Spirit Sword was hype and a good concept
>mastering Super Saiyan Blue like Super Saiyan was mastered years ago
>most asspulls transformation in the series
Fucking toeishills I swear
>SSB Goku stronger than fucking Merged Zamasu
Why does battle damaged Goku always look so sexy?
Ah fuck off
>the outro liner says he's just trying to milk out as much time as humanly possible to wait out the potaras fusion time limit
even worse, way to kill off any hype or tension completely, way to completely ruin the final boss of the arc
this is just bad storytelling, the anime version had good ideas but they were rushed because for some reason Toei wanted the arc to be exactly 20 episodes long
but this? this is plain bad
I'll take the Spirit Sword asspull over this, at the least it was hype
>Why are Toyocucks so pathetic?
I wish I knew.
Also Zamasu himself saying he's weak after getting rekted by Goku.
>Trunks having a retarded asspull healing ability that he didn't use till now isn't bad
>Goku getting an asspull powerup from nowhere and matching Zamasu isn't trash
>Vegeta being sidelined for another Goku moment isn't bad
>Spending time on the arc after it overstayed it's welcome and everyone cares more about the universal survival arc than it isn't bad
Both the Super manga and anime are trash but Super anime at least has the other characters and isn't rushed as fuck.
still better than this trash
what the fuck was the point of Vegito in the manga if Goku is gonna solve everything now?
Vegito got an even worse treatement here, holy fucking kek
> Trunks' power-up: 1-time healing
> Vegeta INSISTING to heal Goku. Not him.
> Goku stronger than Fusion Zamasu by himself
> Goku on his way to save the day (again)
What the fuck
And here I thought Toyo couldn't get worse
>children and retards who just want to look at pretty explosions and colors and clap like seals
Sounds like the average toeishill
>muh flashy colors
>muh edgy scythe
>muh cheated zenkai
>muh power house villain
>literally a compilation of cherrypicked fast punch sequences during fights
Toyocucks are desperate
I like how stuff like the fluid animation during the Lavender sneaking up on Gohan and poisoning him sequence gets conveniently ignored
>what the fuck was the point of Vegito in the manga
Vegito existing is obviously in Toriyama's outline. Probably something like "Goku and Vegeta fuse into Vegito to combat Black and Zamasu's fusion, but something goes wrong and the fusion breaks up prematurely...?!"
Up to Toei and Toyo how they want to have that happen. It was retarded to have Vegito come back if he wasn't going to end the threat, that shit's on Toriyama. There was no saving it.
> Trunks' power-up was a shitty version of Dende's healing ability
A P O L O G I Z E
What kind of juice does Caulifla like?
better than "muh sword spirit bomb"
>Trunks showing off his Kaioshin abilities
How will Mai ever recover?
So Toyo managed to do the impossible...
He's actually making the Future Trunks arc's ending WORSE
Not going to lie, that's pretty impressive
>Toei had the better idea, it just had to be executed and fleshed out better
I do agree with that at least so far, but the arc hasn't ended in the manga yet. Some stupid bullshit is bound to happen.
>what the fuck was the point of Vegito in the manga
What the fuck was the point of Vegetto in the anime as well? Tell that to Toriyama, Vegetto being fan service is his outline.
>Goku is gonna solve everything now
>Vegito got an even worse treatement here, holy fucking kek
Manga Vegetto is good in what Vegetto is supposed to be good, rape ass, he only failed because time limit and immortality. Anime Vegetto failed because he was too weak to defeat his enemy.
Fusions are supposed to be strong enough but fail at the end (because they must fight with their own power and that shit), Vegetto not being strong enough is underwhelming, even fucking GT did that right.
>Retarded Toei shills are trying to act like Future Trunks' healing abilities are the manga equivalent to his transformation(asspull) in the anime
Jesus Christ, we're going to have to deal with this shit until Future Trunks defeats Zamasu in the manga aren't we? Why can't the manga be weekly?
>Goku managed to connect a punch on Zamasu while as he was punched in the face too at the same time.
FUCKING TOYOTARO WHY YOU MAKE GOKU STRONGER THAN ZAMASU LIKE HES NOT RELAYING ONLY IN HIS RAW POWER BUT ALSO IN HIS FIGHTING SKILLS NOOOO IM A TOEISHILL THAT SPITS SHIT AT AN INCOMPLETE LEAK AND IM GOING TO BE BTFO WHEN THEY RELEASE THE FULL CHAPTER
You still have time to apologize
> Goku's amazing... he can actually fight with Zamasu head on.
> Kakarot can control the overflowing power of blue and contain it. (at least something like this, Vegeta's saying the power of blue overflows and comes out, but Goku can contain it)
> The weakness of blue where you can only fight to your full potential in a short while.... Kakarot overcame it.
> Then... right now Goku is?
> He's constantly fighting at a 100%... he's perfected Super Saiyan Blue.
If not stronger, he's at least as strong
In reality, he shouldn't even be close.
The concepts and ideas of the anime version's ending weren't even bad per se, they were literally rushed out and for no good reason at all
You could have easily have some build up to how Trunks is able to channel a spirit bomb, literally just add one or two more episodes for that so it doesn't come off as a sudden asspull
But this is just plain terrible
>What the fuck was the point of Vegetto in the anime as well?
At least the anime FINALLY showed Vegetto using effort. Not to mention a well-animated fight.
The manga's fight was fucking short as hell, no Final Kamehameha, and it was Super Buu vs Vegetto again
Oh, and it had a Perfect Cell "homage"
>"In reality, he shouldn't even be close."
>this retardation again
Merged Zamasu NEVER was Vegetto tier you dumbfucks. Merged Zamasu is a fusion between a SSGSS tier guy and a SS3 tier brat, is slightly stronger than the SSGSS tier one but it's not a big difference, it can't be a big difference unlike it happens when two SSGSS tier fighters fuse into fucking Vegetto.
Merged Zamasu is significantly stronger than SSR Black and "perfect SSB" Goku is significantly stronger than the old SSB Goku so he can stand out a little
>Goku is stronger than Beerus because he landed a punch
You can't make this shit up.
it's even worse when you think more about it
>Vegeta spent a year training in the time chamber
>Goku instead just practiced mafuba, literally went through no training at all during the arc
>Goku somehow mastered SSB but Vegeta didn't
>can we finally get Goku vs Black?
Even though that'd be something to see, I doubt it. Goku would probably end up wiping the floor with Black anyways.
hey I agree, I'm not the one who made the webm to shit on Super's animation though
also early Super looking like dogshit is all thanks to Yamamuro and his ''''''corrections''''''
>Merged Zamasu NEVER was Vegetto tier you dumbfucks.
And he was NEVER Goku tier you faggot
But keep on eating up Toyotaro's shit you Toyocuck. Your savior's perfect and can never be at fault.
>in the manga
Why Toeishills can't even remember their own beloved shit?
>why did Black have no issues straying transformed?
Except he have. Vegeta defeated Black because while Black was getting tired Vegeta used his SSB power without being tired at all.
Looks like I'll have to wait until next month to finish this.
Does Toriyama actually train and teach Toyotaro?
Or does he just "approve" things and makes certain corrections when he feels like it?
Can't wait to see the Toyocuck Defense Force defend this shit
post yfw Toeishills are in full-on damage control
>It sounds like you have a pretty close working relationship with Akira Toriyama. He gives you the outline and you make changes. What is the most interesting thing about working with him?
Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
>Can't wait to see the Toyocuck Defense Force defend this shit
Yeah no you can't master that form when there was no build up or set up during the entire arc of them finally mastering SSJB.
I mean at least the Cell saga had the whole surpassing SSJ be a plot point from the very beginning of the arc.
This thread is as chaotic as I hoped. Toeishills and Toyofags in full battle, it's glorious
Give me more Chaos
>Or does he just "approve" things and makes certain corrections when he feels like it?
That's how you learn something, anon. Toyo makes the manga, sometimes his master corrects him, other times he suggest some changes, different composition, etc. Sometimes he even encourages his student to include his own stuff in the story.
That's teach Toyotaro how to be the new artist of DB.
>Trunks doing a spirit bomb out of nowhere with no buildup
>rightfully gets called an asspull since it's one by definition
>Goku randomly mastering SSB out of nowhere with no buildup
>''it's not an asspull!''
the state of Toyocucks
Not him (I think it will be a new form beyond SSB) but that's a fucking place holder
See pic related, you can see the frame in which Goku lose his SS hair and is just base Goku again, they will change it and Goku's new form will have his SS hair again.
Then Toyo's Goku just got a more ridiculous zenkai then he did on Namek
>Goku being used to a technique he has been using for years is an asspull like Trunks doing a technique he never heared before without even know what he's doing
The state of toeishills.
Gohan is the one who gets the powerup, the OP is tricking us and it will be changed to Gohan transforming
in storytelling an asspull is something that happens out of nowhere with zero buildup to it
that's exactly what mastered SSB Goku is, I could make a headcanon to justify the Spirit Bomb just as easily my dude
>mfw a furry tripfag on 4chan wrote the best version of the Future Trunks arc out in 5 minutes whilst everyone was hoping tracertaro to fix everything
Where's your god now toeishills and toyocucks?
Goku is a prodigy, Vegeta is dumb as fuck and his training makes no impact whatsoever
>Toeishills are in this much denial
SS forms being mastered is an already established thing and toeishills' behavior is the proof
>before this chapter (ignoring stamina drain is in the anime too): WHY THEY CAN'T MASTER SSB TO AVOID THE STAMINA DRAIN LIKE THEY MASTERED SS?
>after this chapter: WHY HE MASTERED SSB TO AVOID THE STAMINA DRAIN LIKE HE MASTERED SS?
Goku would go SSB2 in the tournament and it wouldn't be an asspull since the issue was already established.
>I-Im not smugpup guys! I-Im not totally bringing out again that post made by other anon which I'm taking credit of just to look cooler to my faggot fans in this anounymous board! xD
SSJ being mastered needed an entire arc and was an actual plot point with Vegeta and Goku experimenting with ways to surpass it.
SSJB on the other hand was mastered from out of nowhere with little to no build up.
Its the truth though.
Goku got fpssj in half a year of training.
Vegeta had one year AND then another year AFTER he saw how fpssj worked.
He still was a shitter compared to Goku.
Nah it only puts Goku and Vegeta in the same terms. Vegeta don't lose stamina because he switchs between SSG and SSB, Goku don't lose stamina because he seals his overflowing power within his body. Both can use the full power of SSB so Goku is ahead again because he's still stronger.
J-just because it's a man's body with boobs d-doesn't make me gay. Haha.
>let's just have the heroes master this transformation without any sort of challenge or build up because I'm too lazy to do proper foreshadowing or think of new ways we can make them master transformations with
>Nah it only puts Goku and Vegeta in the same terms
This desu , it was the anime that shit on Vegeta's tranning.
By having Goku overpower and damage Merged Zamasu himself. While Vegeta with the help of Trunks couldn't do the same.
It had him piss of Zamasu after he broke his arms and legs trying to damage him.
And Vegeta and Goku are equal now outside of KK while Vegeta is now a weakling now that Goku's FPSSJB form can fight Zamasu.
>let's force this already-covered concept back into prominence with garbage just to appeal to the autists who can't deal with every single thing not being explained and built up to for fifty chapters
I'm done with Dragon Ball. This was the only anime that never developed into waifu shit but even Toriyama is so out of ideas that he stopped that low. Fucking senile hack.
>let's actually use proper foreshadowing and have mastering this new form we established as hard to master a plot point in this new arc also let's create new interesting ways which the heroes can use to master it
>I missed ripped clothes Goku
>let's not foreshadow what is one of the most important parts of the climax and have our hero master a form we established is hard to master without any trouble or any sort of build up whatsoever
Smugpup samefagging to remind us that he wrote a "better" script of the FT arc which indeed was written by other anon.
Smupshit taking credit of other's work.
As if we care he wrote that useless shit.
Definitive ending by random anon
>exactly the same as Toei's BUT
>after doing the Final Kamehameha, Vegito doesn't defuse, he gets knocked out
>Merged Zamasu is about to land a finishing blow
>Future Trunks blocks it
>''YOU AGAIN TRUNKS?!''
>exact same scene happens and Trunks give the same speech about mortals surviving
>this has an effect on Vegito who wakes up
>Zamasu breaks Trunks' sword is about to kill him off
>Vegito stops him, Vegito's body begins glowing
>the surving Earthlings see this light and tell it not to give up and keep fighting
>exact same music starts playing
>Vegito channels a fucking spirit bomb
>he absorbs it and creates a massive ki sword from his hand
>''It's not about gods or mortals, I won't lose against a weakling like you!''
>''What is this? So many energies are boring into me''
>''That's the power of a Saiyan god!''
>Vegito removes the impaled ki sword
>''MORTALS WOULD RETAILATE AGAINST JUSTICE? AGAINST A GOD?
>''God? YOU ARE NO GOD!''
>Vegito slashes Zamasu in half
>end of episode
Come on now, this would have been hype as hell huh?
Because the manga is literally fan fiction tier shit at this point
>that happy Torankusu doing fun things
This is so cute anons!
>Goku's clearly wearing down and struggling, Zamasu is still unhurt
>Toeishills still claim Goku is stronger than Zamasu
I lke Zamasu
Why is the SSG transformation used constantly in the manga by Goku and now Vegeta, but in the anime has not being used since the Goku vs Beerus fight?
Someone said because Toyotaro actually cares about consistency and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
But I think that is why his manga is terrible.
Consistency is boring, we don't need that in DB.
At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show. Toyo cannot understand that and the manga suffers for it.
Btw, you know, I really love how he draws the characters but personally I think his story telling is ass, feels like hes trying to hard to give it his own ''original'' spin.
found it myself >>157319597
I like everything there apart from keeping the merged zamasu turning into a purple monster thing in, that should be left out, otherwise everything there is better than what toei and toyotaro did.
>Black is still miles stronger than everybody else?
Black is weaker than post RoSAT SSB Vegeta and Vegeta just stated this chapter that Goku has mastered SSB.
I think Goku will beg the universe for energy for the spirit bomb while Trunks holds off Zamasu.
he chapter ends with Goku getting tired and wondering if he can hold Zamasu off for a few more minutes. Meanwhile Zamasu is pissed off and done playing around, so everything is looking grim
Plus they're still screwed if they unfuse since Black can take a tired Goku since Zamasu has unlimited stamina and free healing. They're still kinda screwed without the button. This is still extremely tense
Goku's sweating and getting nervous. Zamasu is getting pissed and is gonna start going all out
Narration says "Can Goku hold out longer than Zamasu's fusion!?!?!"
If they unfuse, Zamasu will heal Black and Black will stomp them since Trunks can't heal anymore and Goku is getting tired
There's literally tons of these covers in the original manga, you autistic retard.
I really hope we get a movie adaptation of the manga version someday.
>Black is weaker than post RoSAT SSB Vegeta and Vegeta just stated this chapter that Goku has mastered SSB.
Vegeta is beaten down and useless right now.
Goku is quickly tiring out because Zamasu is wearing him down
They're gonna be screwed unless they press the button.
>No good quality plan to eradicate saiyans with jab dub
just kill me
>Zamasu will heal Black and Black will stomp them since Trunks can't heal anymore and Goku is getting tired
Trunks will probably step in to help Goku and prevent Zamasu from healing Black.
This will probably be the manga equivalent of the 2v2 fight in the anime.
>he literally doesn't even fight
Daily reminder that due to the tail hole if Beerus were to bend over the world would see his butthole.
>Future Trunks trained as a Kaioshin disciple
Time Patrol Trunks endgame?
At least that one was one of the better ones.
Vegeta is looking fine and rested. When Zamasu will defuse Vegeta is going to rekt Black with his SSG to B and Goku will keep toying with Zamasu
>be an arc of humans vs gods
>not using the genkidama that specifically collects energy from living things
>any new transformation is an asspull, even though by that standart Ssj2 should be one as well, and Ssj3 too
Toyocucks are the worst
What the fuck was in Toriyama notes for this arc?
>And for the ending of this arc I want you to pull biggest, smelliest turd out of your ass
>But Toriyama sensei
>Do as I say!
>I want both of them to fart on my dick.
Kale's heart belongs to Cabba
The problem with the genkidama sword was that Trunks has never learned it or used it before. It came out of nowhere. He shouldn't have known about it either. Rage was not an asspull.
What about this? :^)
>I want both of them to fart on my dick.
Literally looks like short hair Videl, but even more butch
The manga ending was trash but don't pretend that the anime was any better.
One of the biggest asspulls in Super.
Didn't even have a name and came out of nowhere. Don't even try to compare them to SSJ2 and SSJ3 both which had some build up to there reveal and where reaching them was a plot point.
>looks like short hair Videl, but even more butch
>this is somehow a bad thing
SSR is the biggest asspull, jumping from SSJ2 to SSB tier in power.
Genkidama sword is also an asspull but that you can atleast conveniently blame the collective energy for the power boost.
It was shit in the anime but it still has potential in the manga.
I'm prognosticating that Trunks will cut Zamasu's Katchin blocks like Tofu with his Genki Sword. Screen cap this.
Still waiting for Toyo to drew her.
Gowasu told us about the transformation before Heroes named it by the way and then Supreme Kai explained it expanded Trunk's energy...JUST SAIYAN
Gods of Destruction tier list
Gene, Liquier, Arak, Vermoud
>Unknown as of yet tier
Helles, Mosco, Quitela
Rumoosh, Beerus, Champa
>Useless and pathetic tier
>talking shit about best girl
I'll fucking stab you and fuck your wound for that you whore
>You're in charge of writing Frieza's first line of dialogue after he sees the female saiyans of U6
What would you have him say?
>SSR is the biggest asspull, jumping from SSJ2 to SSB tier in power.
Trunks' SS2 wasn't SS2 tier
Trunks' SS2 is on par with Saiyan Beyond God SS2 Goku...which is FAR stronger than pre-BoG SS2 Goku.
Trunks' SS Rage being semi-god tier makes sense
I really need a high res version of this
good old veggie
Mai trying to hold Trunks up is somewhat cute at least
>Ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho, once I take care of Son-Goku and Bejita, I will dispose your universe of all the filthy monkey trash.