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Is this the best romance of the season?
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Cutest definitely, fuck the haters.
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>>157133677
Going straight for the bait I see
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>>157133749
He ate the meat so politely here while in the castle he just chomped down on it
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>>157133677
How can other anime even compete?
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3rd for autoerotic Dragon snuff
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>>157133803
Wet Cheerios
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>>157133800
i prefer the dance between Amira and Favaro more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kJdzC41mlc
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>>157133677
>even rita is a cheeriosfag now
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This latest episode was basically "Nina: Cute Reaction Shot Porn", but I think we can all agree that Belphegor is the purest maiden, even if she doesn't look like she understands what's going on
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>>157133904
>expecting the literally rotting girl to be anything other than a fujoshi
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Does have cute scenes
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>>157133974
> Rotting
Anon. Rita knows all about curing her meat packaging to preserve it for special nights.
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>>157134002

I for one can't wait for the Azazel suffering next episode
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>>157134002
She's infatuated with a man ten years her senior now, but soon she'll realize that demon dick is better than human dick and switch to the good guy side
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my otp is Azazel x happiness and peace
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>To be young and in love, soon the weight of reality will crush her dreams
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will Chelios abuse my Ninas heart and put her in the dungeon or will Nina make him not be a massive dick?
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>>157134002
>doesn't even turn nina on anymore
>as a result she won't turn into a dragon
>all his new comrades will either die or get captured and sold off
>any remaining ones will have zero faith in him and see him as a fuck up
>kaisar is probably going to get in his way too

He's going to get BTFO'd badly next week isn't he?
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>Lets have a cute romance between Demon x Dragon
>But first lets add in another guy to try and ruin it
Why do they do this
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>>157134107
>Nina, you don't understand, I have to kill ALL the gods and demons and rape their women too
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>>157132803
its clearly just infatuation right now, purely on Nina's end, wouldn't call it a legit romance just yet.

Favaro and Amira was better build up
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>>157134151
He just needs to make love to her
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NINA IS A LEWD GIRL
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>>157134171
>cute romance between Demon x Dragon
What series are you talking about? Azazel just wants to use her. Not a fan of Cheerios but he genuinely seemed to enjoy her company and have a good time with her.
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>>157134107
Cheerios will kill all the demons/angels and have a bloodline of dragons.

Literally the best.
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>>157134025
I knew i'd get this response, i just wanted to make a pun on fujoshi.
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>>157134266
Cheerios not just interested in her hot pepper, he's also a fair maiden
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>>157134212
>Favaro and Amira was better build up

As much as I love Favaro and Amira, that's bullshit and you know it. Nothing romantic ever happened between them until the last few minutes of the final episode.
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>>157134263
What do you think she did with that hand that night?
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>>157133765
????
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>>157134073
Your otp is not cannon
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>Nina likes being hurt by cute boys

my dick!
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>>157134381
She practiced.
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>>157134477
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>>157134378
you dont touching and kissing constantly to build a romance, Favaro cared more about her every episode, the kiss was just there because thats how it had to end
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>>157133800
It's cute and all, but we all know the guy is an evil bastard so it's not gonna work out
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What were the spoilers that were supposedly leaked on twitter
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https://youtu.be/tVuXTqV0zHg?t=6s

Do you think Anne and Grea will show up? It's 2 cour
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>>157133677

I just don't really like how Nina's powers are triggered very vaguely, I mean, she transformed when Azazel just hugged her, but she spent the night walking around with Charioce and even dancing with him, yet there's nothing, I thought the only pre-requisite for her to turn into a dragon was for a guy to make her heart race?

that being said, I did think the episode was really cute and it was nice seeing Charioce happy for once
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>>157133974
>Rita
>a fujoshi
The fuck I'm reading.
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>>157134607
Cheerios is actually a demon trying to take control of the world
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I get the feeling that Cheerios knows Nina is the Dragon and is only hanging out with her for this reason.
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>>157133803
Azazel. Cheerios has too little hair around his face to stick sexily to his face. And his stupid mullet would only look even more stupid when clinging to his nape.
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>>157134644
self-control if you're dancing you can keep it in, if you get ambush hugged with intent you can't
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>>157134266
>Cheerios but he genuinely seemed to enjoy her company and have a good time with her
I'm sure he knows she's the dragon, he's also trying to use her to trap Azazel
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>>157133974

She's more like a mother who's seeing her socially awkward child finally get a date.
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>>157134647
B-but! They would know because of the bounty hunter gauntlet thing!
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>>157134647
Really? Wow
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The city looks like a great place to live. Assuming you aren't a filthy demon anyway.
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>>157134091
>soon the weight of reality will crush her dreams
I feel sorry for her. I hope things somehow turn out alright anyway though.
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>>157134720
why?
Amira only triggered when she was in demon form
Martinet only triggered when he was in demon form
>>157134735
im making shit up for fun friend
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>>157134647
I hope this is true, massive Cheeriosfags suicides.
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I'd let Cheerios fuck me desu.
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>>157134694

Doubt it, he probably just wanted to try enjoying the festival with someone else, I mean it's obvious that he had gone out of the palace to screw around and have fun before he ever met Nina.

He probably thought "Oh that girl from the other day, she looks like she wants to hang out anyway so I might as well"

>>157134693

> ambush hugged

but she asked him to do that, it seemed like the act alone was enough to make her transform, even though the situation was grave and she knew it was going to happen.

Charioce meanwhile grabbed her hand without warning as well as put his arm around her waist while they were dancing.
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>>157134646
>Fujoshi (腐女子?, lit. "rotten girl")

it's a joke anon
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>>157134801

Who wouldn't?
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Wait is cheerios a former bounty hunter? Or is this just "oh it's the king's bling"
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Why would anyone want to save gay ass filthy demons?

And in the next episode everyone will just hate them even more anyway.
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>>157134790
Ohave. I feel stupid for believing it
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>>157134863
Anyone who isn't into sociopaths, scumbags or sons of whores.
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>>157134151
Every sign on heaven and earth points to the fact that Nina will have a mismanaged transformation next week due to which she will get imprisoned. It's spoiled in the OP, it's hinted at in the spoilers. Get a fucking clue.
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>>157134830
let me clarify, when Charioce grabbed her hand she was able to maintain some self-control, when Azazel hugged her she asked him to hug her in a very explicit position, she was intending to transform and his touch was all she needed
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>>157134889

I think it's just another "That's a royal object!" like with the ring, that's probably at least partly why the slaver dude backed off. It doesn't really look like the bounty hunter bracer anyways.
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>>157134928
honestly, keep your guard up MAPPA might pull a lazy fast one on us
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>>157134901
>Why would anyone want to save gay ass filthy demons?
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>>157134930

No one said you had to date the guy or agree with his ideals, he's just got a hot bod.
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>>157134378
>that squish and tug on Favaro's cheeks as Amira leans in and pulls away
Probably one of the most subtle but satisfying character animation I've seen.

I'm still blown away that we got a second season, this time with two cours.
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Slutty dragon girl should be dumped like the whore she is.

I would never consider her to be my waifu. She's too much of a shitter.
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>>157135157
Yeah, that entire scene was cute as fuck now that I watched it again. I hope Favaro sticks to his promise and shows her the rest of the world.
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>>157134889
It's a green gem, the same kind the slavers wear on their wrists. It allows him to control the magic entities who wear the collars and probably tap into the forbidden magic on demand.
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Why do things have to end sadly?
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>>157135220
you know you like it
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>>157135285

There's at least some chance that Charioce will be redeemed somehow

I really hope so, he and Nina look cute together.
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>>157135285
While things will definitely go to shit next episode, there still 18 more eps left. So a lot can happen.
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>>157135285
Because you people create suffering for your own amusement
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>>157135292
Where are the lewds?
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>>157135315
Please no, he deserves to die.
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>>157135341
Infodump threads are that way.
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>>157134378
>>157135249
>scene just as good in the dub as in the sub
It was worth the rewatch. SnB really was made with the intention of universal appeal
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>Azazel opened Nina's eyes to the king's shittyness
>she will fall out of love once she learns who he is
If you can't win, make sure the other guy loses as well.
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>>157134638
>wanting average moe-blob anime sameface characters
>in SnB
One of the main appeals of the show is the character designs and that men and women look different for the most part. To reduce the IP to basic animeshit would ruin it.
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>>157133876
>Amira
better girl. new one sucks.
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>>157135612
>high school setting with a dragon girl with horns

where in bahamut world would that even happen? several years in the future? Is grea nina's daughter?
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>>157135315
He's going to be the main villian of the saeson
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>>157135561

Hard to say, honestly, Nina seems like the type to think that bad guys can be redeemed, plus if she likes Charioce already she'd probably be more inclined to believe that as well.
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>>157135701

Sure, but still, I can hope that something happens, or at least that he'll repent or something before being defeated.
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>>157135701
> He's going to be the main hero of the season
Fixed.
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>>157135701
Lucifer is showing up, right?
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>>157134597
Ensuring the success of your species is not evil.
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>>157134597
>charoice
>evil
He's defeated the Gods, which rule over and subjugate humanity, and the demons, which torment and torture humanity.
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>>157135812
Ignore that guy. Demon lovers would sell out their own mother as a heteronazi if it got them Reddit points.
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>>157135812

Having a show of force to tell the demons not to fuck around with humanity anymore is one thing, but sacking the demon cities and taking their people to be slaves and sex toys for pedo's is quite another. Cheerios has definitely taken it too far, and is more likely to provoke a full race war at this point, as we can see, and even though the demons may not be able to kill him specifically, they probably could and WILL kill a huge amount of innocent people in the attempt, people Charioce is meant to protect.
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>>157135701
Good. I love hero x villian
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>>157135812
So Hitler wasn't evil? He was just ensuring the success of his country.
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>>157135865
>which rule over and subjugate humanity
They literally don't give a shit as long as you don't try to fuck with literally everyone else. Follow what's established in the series instead of pulling shit out of your ass, we've seen plenty of villainous humans and villainous demons but nothing bad about the angel's side beyond them acting sorta prissy at worst.
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>>157135777
No anon. Lucifer was inside us all along
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>>157135941
Yeah that's right.
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>>157135941
Considering that Germany was literally being starved to death by Versailles. Yes. Yes he did save Germany. Right up until they lost, at least.
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RIP Favaro. Gone but not forgotten.
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>>157135959
They wanted to sacrifice Jeanne to revive Zeus, not nice but sometimes the end justify the means.
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>>157135726
If Nina was still the same clueless girl who knows nothing about the capitol she would have been more than happy to let the king fuck her he wouldn't even have to come up with a fake identity. Alas, it's not gonna happen as it is, at least not until he would change himself and his ways. And we all know that's the least likely thing to happen for the time being.
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>>157134889
It's the gem from which the onyx knights get their green god/demon slaying power. The slaver probably thought he was one so he skedaddled the fuck out.
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>>157134378
I didn't even finish this show but did you forget all the romantic buildup in the first couple of episodes? Like the dance scene?
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For once, I'm actually digging this potential CheeriosxNina pairing. Azazel has become an annoying edge-lord ...
Of course, everything points to certain failure, but I wouldn't mind if he redeems himself. He obviously needs a nice woman next to him and Nina fits the bill perfectly.
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where the fuck is amira??
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>>157135941
He wasn't.
Also gods and demons are both cunts in the series so Charioce definitely did nothing wrong.
Though instead of slave labor I'd just exterminate them instead, enslavement is getting a bit into evil territory but other than that he is doing the right thing by rejecting gods and demons.
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>>157136200
Hahaha good one.
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>>157135865
>>157134597
Why do you guys have this dumb argument every time, it's the most cliche moral conflict setup ever where everyone's as asshole-ish to each other as each other and violence creates more violence and so on, they even had Kaisar make a big hammy speech where he said exactly that to the audience last episode even.

In part because we actually hardly know anything about the specifics of it yet but the three-way conflict is the weakest part of the story at the moment.
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>>157136207
>Also gods and demons are both cunts in the series so Charioce definitely did nothing wrong.
If we're talking about what we've seen in-series then it's definitely demons > humans > gods in terms of being a cunt. The gap between demon and human isn't that big either, that was the whole point of Martinet's character and S2's whole premise isn't actually all that new despite what you guys keep saying.
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>>157136293
No, humans are worse than demons, like much much worse.
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Why does everyone ship Azazel with Nina when his only romantic interest shown has been towards angel boypussy
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>>157136233
> Violence begets violence meme
You forgot the part where demons go extinct and thus the violence stops.
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Do I have to watch S1 to watch this?
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>>157136350
> Violence begets violence meme
I'm talking about what's stated within the show itself, it's not a "meme".

>and thus the violence stops
Did you watch the latest episode? You had humans beating up another human while other humans just stood there and watched.
Hell you have plenty of examples throughout the series of humans just being dicks to each other, you can't argue otherwise unless you disregard the series and start injecting your own headcanon into this.
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>>157136421
Nah don't watch it, S2 is way better and you don't need it to understand what's going on anyways.
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>>157134647
This better not be fucking true

Even if you don't agree with him, it would still turn his character into complete shit.
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>>157136350
Most of the bounties in S1 were of humans you stupid cunt.
>Ghus and Ghos, homicidal rapists who force their cronies to abduct women for them to rape
>Rita a necromancer who lures travellers to her village to add them to her zombie collection
>Gilles the Rais a literal psyho of a highest degree who murdered and tortured countless people
Even after ridding the realm from either demons or gods humans would make sure to turn into into a shithole.
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>>157135315
What I imagine is likely to happen. Is that Azazel and his ploy will actually manage to fuck up the city pretty good.
Which will likely make Charioce actually doubt his own policies, since the above would mean that Kaisar was actually completely right.

Add to this, that Nina will likely play a part with the whole demon invasion one way or another. Likely trying to stand up for both sides to an extent.
And Nina, having gotten Charioce's respect as a human, is likely to shock Charioce when she is revealed to be involved with the demons or even blatantly revealed to be dragon. Potentially making him question his world view even more.

And if we're talking redemption or whatever. None of the above really affects what Charioce has already done. But it may very well move Charioce towards a notable character change.
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>>157136233
>>157135959
Humans were NOT sovereign over their own affairs. Now they are.
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>>157136421
It's basically required, yeah.
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>>157136332
It's just a meme for people with no taste.
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Alright 5 episodes into this shit.
Is the entire plot line revolving around a female dragon bitch MC? I can't self insert like this, it feels like fujoshit with bishi oppressed demon fagboys as the major plot.

It's not even a good girl like Rita, who's maggoty manko I want her to spread.
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>>157134666
I feel this too. Otherwise Cheerios behaviour doesn't make much sense (unless he is actually interesting in Nina).

Considering he really autistic outside of these scenes, it seems like the only explanation is that he's intentionally doing this lovey-dovey shit to see if she'll awaken.

There's already hints to it, what with him noticing how strong/fast she is
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>>157136543
>Which will likely make Charioce actually doubt his own policies
Nah, more likely it'll only assure him that he needs even more power and a even more massive display of power. Which will lead him to kick off his campaign against the gods into motion.
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>Rita in every episode so far.

Glad these guys know how to pander. Just more Favaro and we'll be set.
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>>157136616
I'll see you after a few episodes anon
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>>157136640
I think they saw the complaints about S1's pacing and went the opposite extreme, so now they're going slow.
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>>157136421
Just watch S2. If you watch S1 first, you'll just spend all of S2 wondering where the fuck Favaro is.
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>>157136543
We know for sure that the city ends up partially destroyed in episode 12 when the angels attack, so I doubt the city is going to be BTFO twice.
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The worthy will be blessed by the gods. The unworthy will be cast into the inferno of homosexual fallen angels.
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>>157136640
Your obviously supposed to self insert as Nina you fag
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>>157136545
The capital forces were in a partnership with them. But that doesn't mean the angels ruled over the humans.
It was even implied that they barely ever meddled in human affairs whatsoever, even post-Jeanne.
We just saw them as often as we did in S1 due to how close Bahamut was to awakening and due to Amira running around as a ploy of Gilles.

That's part of why the human king was so jealous of Jeanne. Since in one of their supposedly incredibly rare appearances, they didn't much care for him.

And while the protection of the god key might have been an exceptional case, that might have motivated them to act differently somehow in some way. Under normal circumstances, I am almost willing to bet that the most of the repercussions that would befall the capital/mankind if they all of a sudden stopped following them, is most likely just that they would be stripped of the blessings benevolently granted to them by the angels to begin with.
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>>157136695
This. I'm in it for Rita's snide quips each week.
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>>157136332
Azazel didn't even ask how Mugaro was after Nina brought him up
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>>157136640
Otome, retard. Not fujoshi. This show is so anti fujoshi that even Azazel is being shipped with girls.
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>>157136421
Most of the characters will mean nothing to you without S1 + it's obviously leading into a story more heavily tied into it's events, I dunno why people here keep saying to not bother with it.
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>>157136734
Fucking spoilers. Shit like this almost makes me regret visiting threads for shows I haven't completed.
I keep thinking that anime originals are safe. But it seems like that is rarely true any more.
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>>157133811
>auto
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Has Cheerios fought a single important god? He boasts about being able to defeat them but all he did was steal some shit from them to use against the demons.
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>>157136738
>>157136799
Whatever. I'll watch it for Rita but this is seriously horrible compared to the first season.

Hopefully we get some gaping ghoul vag on pixiv of it at least. Why are dead little girls so cute?
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>>157136876

All the important gods/demons except (maybe?) Lucifer are dead from fighting Bahamut.
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What has Cheerios actually done wrong?

Invading/conquering enemy kingdoms isn't evil. Enslaving them is harsh, but it is better than the alternative (genocide).

What, should he have let the demons go with a slap on the wrist so they can return and start causing harm to humanity? Even the gods believed demons were evil. He had every right to just completely wipe the scum off the face off the earth but he was merciful and let them live.

I can honestly not understand how you can call him evil.
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>>157136737
I dunno man. Lucier's crib looked pretty cozy. I wouldn't mind the added benefit of being able to watch them make out either.
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>>157136972
>What has Cheerios actually done wrong?

He let the demons live.
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>>157137053
That is completely right.
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>>157136969
They aren't. We see some important ones looking at Bahamut as he desintegrates. Gabriel survived too. The most unfortunate ones that got sucked into him in mass numbers were the angel babies.
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>>157136969
Bacchus is just a demigod, right? I was worried that his talk with Cheerio was going to end in either one of them figuring out each other's true identity and Bacchus getting killed by him or something.
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Nina is so fucking cute, I can't stand it
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>>157137180
He's a full god, just a fallen one.
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>>157136972

He could have demonstrated a show of force to the demons, and yes, even attacked them in some limited capacity, to basically convey the message to fuck off and don't mess with humanity. Done right, this could have brokered some form of peace between the two races, demons stay in their own place, humans stay in ours, but Charioce has crossed the line by sacking demon cities and enslaving their people to work to death as laborers or be sold to pedo's who just want to rape kids without being in trouble. He's definitely pushed it too far.

At this point, as we can clearly see, these actions have pushed demons to their limits, even under the threat of death they'll attack because the situation for them is so bad, even if Azazels plan fails to kill Charioce ((which, yeah, of course it will)) the demons will still likely kill a lot of innocent people that Charioce is meant to be protecting, and the demons themselves could go and delve into darker magics for all we know, set off large scale terrorist attacks, summon some crazy shit, who knows. The point is that Charioce has basically unlocked the way to war with the demons in which basically any crazy magic crap could happen, and that WILL get a huge amount of humans killed.
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>>157136972
>sex slaves, torture, colosseum, mutilating demons
>not evil
Have a pity reply.
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>>157136817
Because they're teenage girls more interested in cliche romance nonsense than good fantasy.
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>>157137207
Oh damn. I was relieved thinking he was just a demi so he could probably slip under Cheerio's radar, but now I'm nervous, especially after they're developing him as a papa bear for Nina.
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>>157136526
Except based cheerio has rid the world of everyone like that except one demon murderer.
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>>157137234
Why are you even here
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honestly if i was a noble i'd own a demon sex slave too so i don't really blame them

it's not like they're human, right? so who cares
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>>157137229
This.

It's like Charioce decided to take a page out of US Middle East policy, make it ten times more brutal and then wonder why everything's gone to shit.
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>>157137285

Still unlikely that Cheerios would go after him, he's not exactly aligned with the gods anyway.
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>>157137356
Why is the duck angry?
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It's obvious what's gonna happen. Ninas gonna find d out cheerios evil. Shit will ensue. This will cause her to grow closer to azazel because she's depressed and shit that her first love is a literal Hitler. They will then make powerful demon dragon babies
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Can't wait for Azazel dropping his spaghetti when he can't make Nina go dokidoki
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>>157137296
Because it's the sequel to some good fantasy and still has those elements when it's not too busy pandering to teen girls.
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>>157137292
Not really considering what is going on in the pedophiliac underground of the capitol or that slavers are free to summon demons now when such actions would warrant a bounty on their heads before. And other places that aren't the capitol are no better off than they were. See Nina's village.
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>>157137388
azazel is going to die by cheerios' hands
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>>157137306
Thankfully as of now only one sentient race exists on earth. Maybe it's for better
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>>157137388

Azazel isn't really endgame either, he just wants to use Nina for her dragon power, and that much will likely become clear to Nina a long ways before Cheerio's identity comes out.
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>>157137306
I want edgelords to leave.
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>>157137414
As opposed to pandering to fujoshits and horny boys? Every anime panders to a group of people anon. That's how it sells. And teen girls are alledegely the biggest market right now
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>>157137387
He hates Kaisar for crushing Rita's dreams.
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>>157137387
Because they knew Rita was going to leave disappointed
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>>157137306
Illegal pet trade is perfectly okay to yah.

You have no moral compass, if somebody should be removed from the society, it's the people like you.
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>>157137443
>>157137388
>>157136734
How do you is know this? Was something spoiled?
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>>157137356
>homo foreshadowing
Cheerios x Azazel true endgame
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>>157137387
he saw this bullshit
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>>157137637
I thought this season killed you people
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>>157137623
First two are speculation, third one comes from the PVs and the pictures uploaded on Twitter by the director.
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>>157136972
This.

Humanity is great as it is now, fuck Demon and Gods, Human World - Society is the best.

King Cheerios is the hero we need.

Weak and nuhuman won't understand that when all demons and gods go extinct the problem will solve itself.

>>157137230
Demons are just like animal, if you mistreating animals laws in many country aren't going to judge you, that doesn't mean other human don't, but these mistreatment are quite rare (considered the story took part in heavily populated urban) and of course well hidden from public eyes,.

They will going through huge transformation and assimilate any ways, and problematic who can't assimilate will be exterminated, there won't even be any problem.
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Will the second half of the season be about angels and demons spitroasting the humans or will Bahamut show back up so everyone has to work together again and teach Cheerios a lesson about friendship?
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>>157137685
Oh. Did not see that for some reason. Thank you
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>>157137439
They're apparently much less overt. If anyone is hurting humans they need to lay low enough that no one is even aware enough of their activities to stick bounties on them. Unlike before when you could kidnap a wagonful of women in the middle of the day.

>slavers are free to summon demons now when such actions would warrant a bounty on their heads before
Who said the bounties were for demon summoning?

>>157137521
It seems questionable that the best way to sell an action high fantasy type series is to horny girls. Maybe they just decided on this main character and ran with it.
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>>157137689
>demons are just like animals
Damn. Next time I'll be sure to have a long conversation with my dog
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>>157137443
Nah, at most he will make Charioce question his sexuality.
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>>157137702
it's definitely going to be a bigger threat that will show cheerios he needs to team up

the only reason i believe this is because it would mean Azazel + Cheerios banter. i can already picture them yelling at each other akin to favaro and kaisar while working together. it's so easy to picture that i am 100% certain it will go in this direction
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>>157133677
Why is she so cute?
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>>157137782
Talking with your dog is much more worthwhile than talking with a filthy demon could ever be.
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>>157137757
I don't think it's just marketed towards horny girls. As yu said that action is still there so action fans will buy it and so will fans of season 1. There just expanding there viewer base to add girls
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>>157137678
How do you feel about Favaro coming back to pound Kaisar's butthole
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>>157137873
Maybe when Favaro comes back Kaiser will stop being such a pathetic fuccboi.
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>>157137873
The only asspounding is gonna be on Nina by Belphegor
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>>157137782
your dog never ploted the destruction of humankind
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When will Cerberus start fucking shotas again?
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Will Kaisar ever actually do anything other than say "pls stop" to people
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>>157137689
>retard and ESL
Your average neighbourhood Cheerios poster.

>if you mistreating animals laws in many country aren't going to judge you
Only in the shittiest 3rd world ones, so like where you're from. Respecting animal rights is a staple of civilizational sophistication.
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>>157137913
Kind of curious if the Favaro/Kaisar bromance will be the main focus or Favaro's mentorship of Nina

>>157137933
That makes me feel like I'm gonna come over to your house and pound you in the butthole
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There's no sign of Nina becoming a dragon because you can see Azazel having to solo some Onyx knights and going straight for the king, with Kaisar possibly interrupting again
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>>157137957
Statistically, I could probably say the same about a demon.
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>>157133800
MAPPA aren't stingy with animation budget at all while others have no problem putting out 20 minutes of still frames with moving mouths and panning shots.
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>>157137794

>Just two more weeks for Azazel torture scene

oh boy
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>everybody having a good time
>azazel will ruin it
Fuck him. He should just take all the demons and gtfo Cheerios' town.
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>>157137977
When will Cerberus show the fuck back up is what I want to know
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>>157138061
That's a nice hat Cheerios has on

His outfit bothers me though. I feel like they're making it too obvious that he's the endgame boss
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>>157138061
>Nina fell in love with NotCheerios
>she stopped lusting after good looking men
Notice how she didn't blush while looking right into Azazels face at the end.
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>>157138159
>everybody having a good time celebrating anniversary of the genocide their country committed on another country
interesting how Charioce is making his whole country step over the moral event horison.
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>>157138014
Like killing rats and hunt rabbit for fun. You took the stick and hit them no one is going to judge you, but it really digusting and other people really going judge you if you do it in front of their face.
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Are we allowed to sexualize Nina? Because I really want to put in.
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>>157138320
It's the only thing she thinks about, go nuts.
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>>157138281
Not for long. If she did that would severely limit the usefulness of her dragon transformation in the future episodes. Unless her transformation evolves and she gains control over the process.
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Also, very subtle symbolism.
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>demons dunking on humans for ages
>humans finally knock the demons on their asses
>FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKING HUMANS!!!

I can understand why the demons are pissed off, but do people really sympathize with them? I mean, sure. Not every demon is bad so they all don't deserve to be enslaved, but I'd much rather root for Cheerio punching Gods in the face than demons regaining their power and killing humans like they did for ages.
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>>157138401

There's a difference between demons occasionally screwing around with humanity for laughs and humanity trying to literally trying to either make demons all into slaves or sex toys and/or genocide them.

The demons deserved to get pushed back by humanity, definitely, but Charioce has pushed it to the extreme when he really didn't have to, and his actions at this point are probably going to get a lot of innocent people killed, probably have whole cities destroyed too, since demons have been oppressed so far they legit have nothing left to lose.
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>>157138427

Why is Rocky so sassy?
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>Knows Nina has not actually consented to going along with his bullshit demon revolution
>Its literally using the trust she has in him to lead her right in the middle of it
>He is perfectly aware of this which is why he doesn't tell her why he wants her to go to the tower in the first place
>This leads to her getting arrested and thrown in a dungeon

I really want to feel bad for Azazel but he is getting exactly what he deserves
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>>157138295
>humans and demons at war
>demons terrorizing humans
>humans finally managed to tip the scales, destroy the demon capital city and introduce a golden age of prosperity
And now celebrating that day is somehow morally questionable?
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>>157138737
I see what you mean. He did jump to the extreme pretty fucking hard. I'm biased towards humanity so I'll always get an erection from the idea of humanity telling every other race to fuck off, but even I can understand how hardcore he's taking it.
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>>157138827
>demons are being scum
>this somehow shocks anon
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>>157138836
There was no war after Bahamut's revival you retard. Nothing indicates demons were terrorizing humans either, you retard. And it's barely been a few years, a bit too soon to call it an "age." Fuck off and spare us any more of your willful retardation.
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>>157138827
such a pretty face though
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>>157138737
>>157138401
Every fucking thread.
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>>157138940
>azazel killing favaros and kaisars fathers for shit and giggles
>azazel leading a giant demon army to conquer the kings town only to get his ass kicked by Jeanne,Fav and Kaisar
?
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>>157138427
Why does it have 6 fingers?
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>When you can't score despite being royalty
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>>157138827
>>He is perfectly aware of this which is why he doesn't tell her why he wants her to go to the tower in the first place
How do you know that's his motivation for not telling her and not simply arrogance or retardation?
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>>157134002
>mfw azazel doesn't turn on nina anymore because she got NINGENED
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>azazel's plan to assassinate the king of humans is solely reliant on whether or not a random fickle girl will show up on time to the right tower by firmly asking her to do so

What a master strategist. Maybe the demons deserve to be slaves if they're this fucking retarded.
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>>157138978

He is definitely looking at her in a softer way than before but at the same time it might be due to some underlying guilt he is feeling for what he is about to do
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>>157139071
Because a bunch of lives are currently at stake and this is the key to the plan which everything else is relying on to work?

Not even Azazel is that retarded, if he wanted her to know he would just straight up tell her why because Nina didn't look all that convinced
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>>157135157
>with two cours

Holy fucking shit I didn't even know it was two cour.

You just made my fucking day, thank you anon maybe I won't kill myself tonight.
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>>157139034
>humans perform the absolute fucking overkill by burning his castle to the ground simply because they want to take Amira back
>Jeanne turning demons into minced meat like it's no big deal
>human disguised as a demon persuading Azazel into attacking his own capitol
As far as asaults go we are now at two to one for the humans.
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>>157139125

It's basically the only chance they have.
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>>157139125
The demons will want his head on a spike if his plan fails. Considering how the future of the demon race ride on this I am sure Azazel, former right hand of the King of Hell, has a backup plan in case Nina doesn't show up/transform.
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>>157139125

Look at this smug fuck, he clearly thinks he is the only one making Nina's panties wet
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>>157139266
that's why all this talk of who is winning/has won the ninabowl and that Charioce is ultimately a good guy is kind of hilarious. Who's to even say there's going to be a ninabowl winner
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>>157139266
MAPPA is literally saving lives.

I genuinely thought MAPPA was going to go bankrupt like Madhouse, and that Bahamut especially wouldn't get another season. I'm thankful for mobage and fujo money.
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>>157139273
It's his only chance, but why did he just calmly ask her to be there? He made it seem so unimportant to her. I get that he doesn't want to tell her 'hey be a dragon and kill the king', but he could have tried to capture her or convince her better than 'hey, be here tomorrow, thanks'.
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>>157128386
This was actually pretty sad anon.
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>>157139226
How can you be sure of that? Azazel is the absolute worst in the world at empathising. He might have never even considered Nina has any kind of feelings on tha matter. We've seen him do similar things before.
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>>157139386
>yfw fujoshis unironically saved anime
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>>157139453
Isnt't she a zombie?
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>>157138737
>occasionally murder people for a giggle
>wow man stop enslaving me it was just a prank bro
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>>157136200
On the bahamut
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>>157139447

I guess if he was too serious about it she may have asked him what was going on.
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>cheerio's unintentionally cucks the red dragon from azazel there by also cucking him from his """"""master"""""" plan
Humans can just NOT STOP winning.
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>>157138847
>I'm biased towards humanity so I'll always get an erection from the idea of humanity telling every other race to fuck off
This is going to be your humanity for the night.
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>>157139477
Because she might try to run away if he tells her why or just not go at all

she already clearly stated before she wanted nothing to do with his revolution
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>>157139561
HUMANITY, FUCK YEAH!
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>faggots in this thread hating on season 1
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>>157138737
Why do you care? If they dare to rise up against humanity, let's exterminate and assimilate them, like kill all male demon and force demon female to have half baby, they will soon be assimilate and lost the will to fight.
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>>157139561
Can't wait to watch Raggy lose his shit next episode when /ourguy/ somehow ruins his plan without even knowing it
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>>157139531

Like I said, the demons deserved to get pushed back after all this time when they had thought humans were just playthings you could mess around with, but the entire race doesn't deserve to be enslaved and/or genocided for that, it's a pretty extreme overcompensation on Cheerio's part, and considering the fact that demons magic is still a threat to basically everyone except Charioce + his elite knights, humanity as a whole will likely suffer because demons will have nothing more to lose after being oppressed this long.
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>>157138103
Nah.
The first half of this episode has stiff & weird animation (definitely bellow its usual standard). But, I know where the budget went after the dance scene.
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>>157139591
>she already clearly stated before she wanted nothing to do with his revolution
Cool lies bro. The only thing she said on the matter after she'd seen what shit demon lives in the capital are is that she thinks she's useless for them. And then started involving herself for the demons out of her own volition. Next week she might even have a front row seat in a real demon genocide. I wonder what are her thoughts going to be on the matter.
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>>157139516
Yes, and?
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>>157139633

real edgy
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>>157139516
Yes?
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>>157138737
>since demons have been oppressed so far they legit have nothing left to lose

Well, I mean, most of the demons in cities are slaves with collars so they can't do much unless something plot related happens that releases them all everywhere (ie Muguro powering up). The tiny resistance group Azazael teamed up with is jack shit compared to the entire demon capital that fell to the exact same people they're trying to fight.
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Too bad the show is flopping.
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>>157139561
M A H A
M A H A
M A H A souluu
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>>157139736
>>157139722
Necrophilia isn't ok, anons.
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>>157139561
And he cucks himself out of Nina pussy by throwing her in the dungeon. Can't have everything.
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>>157139625
Fucking shit taste. Season one wasn't perfect. It had a lot of stuff packed into 12 episodes, and the scheduling was ass, which hit the animation in the second half. But overall it was a good fucking season.
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>>157139801
Nina is a responsable adult with a job, being dead doesn't mean she can't love
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>>157139447
He doesn't even want her to kill the king. He only wants her to take care of the Onyx knights. Literally one job.
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>>157139731
>i know better than all the great societies of human history
>my cultural mores are absolute and will always be considered correct now that enlightened people like me exist
>anyone who doesn't share this attitude is just being immature
hmmm
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>>157139801
Anon, pls.
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Why the fuck are this and Genesis so good? They just came out of nowhere with a huge budget and they are actually good. Not just good by anime standards since everything that airs is LN adaptation trash, it's good by regular standards
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>>157138827
Why would going to some tower lead to her being arrested and thrown into the dungeon? Is Charioce this paranoid that he would throw a random girl he found at some tower into his darkest dungeon just because? If she doesn't change he'll just leave her there and no connection should ever be discovered.
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>Fuck gods, we should invade them just because they don't help us enough
>We're the good guys!
?

Also, who's gonna stop Bahamut? I realize I'm giving the humanposting ESL secondaries too much credit here, but might as well actually discuss the plot instead of bitching about the otome episode.
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>>157140143
Favaro once he's outta jail
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>>157140101
The people involved in making it actually give a shit. And it doesn't rely on ten million tired ass anime pandering tropes. I'd say it panders a little, season two more than season one, but compared to most modern anime, it's nothing.
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>>157140143
>projects that everyone she doesn't like are esl
>can't follow cheerio's clear arguments and plan for that contingency
hmm
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>>157140190
Sure, what's gonna hold Bahamut in place this time around? Cheerio's green magic can't even contain Nina.
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>>157139974
More like
>the shameful past all the great societies of human history are trying to hide
Nobody likes admitting to genocide. Even countries that don't give a fuck aren't comfortable having it exposed.
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>>157140275
Nina!
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>>157137229
So basically, you wanted him to half ass it?
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>>157140266
>Project
Read
>>157137689
>>157138299
Do tell, what's this contingency plan that's capable of stopping the most powerful entity in the universe.
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>>157140303
>Even countries that don't give a fuck aren't comfortable having it exposed
We genocided the Native Americans and pretty much jerk off to it to this day. It really just depends on what light you see the other side in.
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>>157140266
>cheerio's clear arguments and plan for that contingency
I'm all ears.
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>>157140303
>all great societies are still around today in the same form and with the same belief system they had when they were great

>>157140382
>>157140348
He clearly said he was going to keep amassing power until humanity can take bahamut. Without further knowledge of how magic works in this universe it's really not that unreasonable to think that the guy who took humanity from the middle ages to kicking the shit out of gods in 10 years could acquire more 'power' than the three races previously had combined.

>b-but 10 guys in mobile magic suits couldn't take a dragon therefore humanity couldn't eventually take bahamut
That's stupid.
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>>157133677
Fuck no Cheerios a shit.

But oh well he's at least better than Azazel.
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>>157139996
That's just not right.
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>>157140382
Can't you see that Cheerios will use the power of DANK MEMES and HUMANITY to SAVE THE HUMAN RACE and OPPRESS LESSER RACES while shoulder deep in VIRGIN DRAGON PUSSY for the next 20 episodes?

>>157140523
Nina isn't even close to Bahamut though, not by a long shot. Bahamut would wipe the floor with the races as they are now.
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So this is Bahamut in human form, right?
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>>157140523
>Cheerios said he has a plan so he has a plan!
Wow you're an idiot.
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>>157140523
That's not how it fucking works you secondary. Bahamut is literally invincible, "amassing power" doesn't do shit. He can only be delayed, he can't be removed. Also, power doesn't grow on fucking trees. Where's he getting this power from? He stole the green shit from the gods, what's next? You think the fucking king of gods and king of hell would had to sacrifice themselves if an option that easy was available to them?
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>>157140523
>all great societies are still around today in the same form and with the same belief system they had when they were great
No part of this statement is even remotely close to truth.
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>>157140555
>Bahamut would wipe the floor with the races as they are now.
Bahamut was already going to wipe the floor with the races as they were if a human didn't pull a magic thorn out of his ass. Maybe cheerio can whip up another thorn, he clearly has a more technology based and analytic approach to magic than the other races do.

Also you don't know what the humans could do if they sent all their resources to fight a singular threat. Your extrapolation of their total military ability from 10 guys is unreasonable.
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>>157140608
That's why it's meme arrowed.

>>157140597
>hurrr your total power level is irrelevant and has nothing to do with how well you can contain/lock away/etc bahamut
>that's why humanity needs to rely on other races for their power
ok retard.

if he's able to defeat the gods he's either able of producing more 'power' past the extent of whatever he stole or the gods where too pussy to use it even against bahamut
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>>157140645
Good lord, you're a joke if you seriously think that humanity has even a wisp of a chance against Bahamut. Theoreticals don't matter here because the narrative literally won't allow it. "Punch Harder" isn't the solution here
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where is favaro?
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>>157140821
Being bounty hunted
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>entire town having fun
>Azazael on the way to ruin it
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>>157140877
It's tradition
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>>157140804
>the mechanics of magic and the requirements to defeat bahamut were never explicitly explained in the series
>therefore we should assume that the angels and demons would be required even if humanity has surpassed them
Wow nice reasoning you got there. Stop arbitrarily picking assumptions to make it the 'right' choice to follow your moral code.

>but this is a cartoon and in cartoons friendship and stuff is important therefore cheerio is wrong not to base his policy on friendship and stuff
Do you base all your major decisions on the possibility that you're living in a cartoon, anon?
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>>157138103
MAPPA aren't even on the production committee. They have nothing to do with funding the show or its production budget. Merely workers for hire. If you want to praise MAPPA for anything it should be getting talented animators and scheduling production such that those animators have enough time to produce work of high quality.
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>>157140956
>arbitrarily picking assumptions to make it the 'right' choice to follow your moral code
>Do you base all your major decisions on the possibility that you're living in a cartoon, anon?
Wow, I never knew Shingeki no Bahamut was real life.

The fact is that your humanity first wet dream is dumb as shit anon. That's what I'm basing it on and why I'm saying that the series won't allow it. Humanity is gonna get bitten in the ass sooner or later as a result of their actions because they're clearly not being set up on the whole as a villain.

With that in mind, yeah, I can definitively say that they wouldn't stand a chance against Bahamut. There's only so many people in an army and the best military units we've seen weren't enough to take down even Nina. The chance that Cheerios is holding back some super secret ace is slim to none because otherwise he'd be using it to steamroll Jesus Club
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https://my.mixtape.moe/xvpqhr.webm
This scene was perfect.
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>>157141112
>Wow, I never knew Shingeki no Bahamut was real life.
It's not. Which is why your argument "he's wrong because he's in a cartoon duh" is so retarded. We should be talking about his choice using available in universe information instead of "lol its a cartoon". I was trying to help you see that.

>The chance that Cheerios is holding back some super secret ace is slim to none because otherwise he'd be using it to steamroll Jesus Club
He hasn't been trying to genocide jesus club. We just know that he's been raiding artifacts or something from them and he'd be ok with total war.

You're still making a ton of assumptions. Like maybe it's easier to set up your strongest force field around a mile tall dragon in the middle of nowhere than a mobile one in the middle of a city. And you're willfully ignoring the part where he doesn't claim to have sufficient power but wants to obtain it for the future. Basically you have 0 information that indicates cheerio's plan wouldn't work, you just don't like him so you pretend your feelings are evidence that he's objectively wrong.
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>>157140877
Are demons having fun though?
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Who's Raghead Johnny?
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>>157141425
What do you mean? That's Chris, ya dummy.
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>>157141396
You're not understanding. I am using available universe information.

The only reason humanity even stood a chance against Bahamut was because of a literal deus ex machina tied to the narrative and the hero of Genesis' story. Cheerios and humanity does not have that advantage because they are gathering their power from the slaughter and subjugation of all other races of the realm.

>Basically you have 0 information that cheerio's plan wouldn't work
I genuinely like Cheerios and think he's an interesting character, which is why I can see it's stupid as fuck to think that as he is he's a hero of any sort and that the power he's building isn't based on the shittiest foundational level common to fictious civilizations guilty of hubris.

And you're not accounting for the fact that bahamut isn't just a dragon. It literally took the collaboration of the two most powerful beings in the series just to deflate Bahamut's raging chaos boner the first time. The second time was, as I said, only possible because Favaro was the hero of Genesis and came to his penultimate character growth.
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>>157141396
>Basically you have 0 information that indicates cheerio's plan wouldn't work, you just don't like him so you pretend your feelings are evidence that he's objectively wrong.
Rather than that I would say he is just more aware of the narrative than you are. If you think Charioce is being set up to sail smoothly throughout the entire show without any major hiccups along the way then you're in for a rude awakening. There have been multiple warnings spelled out to him already and he head none of them. He is not framed as the hero and saviour of mankind my any means even though it's the official narrative in his kingdom. For his own good as a character, it's inevitable that he fails. The narrative isn't in favour of what he's doing, but is letting him do his thing for the time being. Probably because Azazel is set out on his character arc first. Charioce's trun will come later.
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>>157140821
>6- Date, ends with Azazel attacking
>7- Charioce vs Azazel, Nina is arrested
>8- Nina flashback to meeting Favaro, meets Jeanne
>9- Prison Break with Rita and Jeanne
>10- Jeanne flashback, incidentally Ike and Onda both said they like this episode specifically, there's a tenor solo and a soprano solo in it
>11- no info
>12- capital being attacked by some outside force
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>>157141714
>The only reason humanity even stood a chance against Bahamut was because of a literal deus ex machina tied to the narrative and the hero of Genesis' story.
>Cheerios and humanity does not have that advantage because they are gathering their power from the slaughter and subjugation of all other races of the realm.
What in universe information are you using to infer that subjugating and slaughtering other races reduces the probability of someone finding a dues ex machina against bahamut, exactly?

>common to fictitious civilizations guilty of hubris
Which in universe information do you think he should be looking at to realize everything is going to work out as a narrative cliche?

>the power he's building isn't based on the shittiest foundation
You have no idea what the foundation is. For all you know he just stole blueprints for magic machines from the gods and now he can mass produce as many as he wants.
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Not a mere duck.
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>>157141991
>What in universe information are you using to infer that subjugating and slaughtering other races reduces the probability of someone finding a dues ex machina against bahamut, exactly?
How retarded are you? No, seriously. A deus ex machina against evil can only be found and used by the hero of a story. A villain like Bahamut cannot be defeated without the hero of a story because that's it's entire point for existing. It is narrative Ragnarok. If we are going by any rules of the universe not responsible by author intent and intervention, Bahamut fucks.

>Which in universe information do you think he should be looking at to realize everything is going to work out as a narrative cliche?
the fact that Bahamut has never been defeated by traditional means and cannot be defeated by traditional means because it is a force of nature, which is exactly what he's trying to do. A rational person would not look at Bahamut's previous subjugations and say gee whiz maybe we just need more soldiers and more angel treasures that didn't help to make Bahamut even itch the last time it came around

>You have no idea what the foundation is
I'm talking about a civilization built upon the backs of slaves. If Azazel wasn't such a dumb dumb or hey, you may have guessed it, being restricted by the writer's intentions to make him a sympathetic antihero he'd just slaughter the civilians of the Empire instead. Eventually Cheerios is going to find himself without a labor force, civil unrest, and someone ready to take advantage of his falling racial jenga tower and unable to dedicate resources to solving both problems at once. That is inevitable unless he commits legitimate genocide against the demons, and then his precious prosperity is gone because he has no more labor force.
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>>157141688
Right, he named himself.
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>>157134647
HERESY!!!
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>>157134597
Hey, one of the bad guys finding love then saying "fuck your word domination I'm out" would be a nice change.

I haven't actually seen an example since Jaws in James bond
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>>157142290
>A deus ex machina against evil can only be found and used by the hero of a story.
Nice in universe reasoning ya got there, dipshit.

>i hereby declare all the things cheerio may do to be traditional and all the things that may beat bahamut to be non traditional
>wow that fucking retard, doesn't he realize he's only using traditional methods to a non traditional problem

You clearly don't understand the distinction between in and out of universe reasoning despite claiming that you do.

>I'm talking about a civilization built upon the backs of slaves
Oh, can you tell me more about how it was being built on slaves that collapsed the great civilizations of the past and not any other factor? You have 0 knowledge of this, you just think slavery is icky and therefore anyone practicing slavery must be irrational.

>new technology plays no part in his empire's prosperity, it's only slave labor
>the kingdom isn't capable of capturing rebel demons despite the fact that when they sent in their anti-demon guys the only fugitive in the world would have been captured if his ass wasn't saved by a dues ex angel child
Nice no evidence you have to support your assertions.
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we're only 1/4th in and im already afraid of the heartbreak thats about to happen
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>>157142638
>we're already a fourth of the way in and no favaro
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>>157142638
at least she'll get her pussy broken long before her heart does
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>>157133677
What a slut
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Haha, stupid demons totally deserve that, they arent as good and nice as us humans, amirite?
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>>157142629
>nice in universe reasoning ya got there, dipshit
good lord anon if you are asking for in universe reasoning for a deus ex machina I don't know what to tell you. In the logic of the universe, there is no such thing as a deus ex Machina, so in that case, my argument would be that Cheerios is a dead duck

>you clearly don't understand the distinction between in and out of universe reasoning despite claiming you do
You salty that Cheerios by your precious in-universe reasoning can't stand a chance against Bahamut, nevermind build a lasting empire?

>you just think slavery is icky and therefore anyone practicing slavery must be irrational
find me one logical instance where an enslaved and abused group of people is substantial. Literally one besides trying to pull shit out of your butt about how my reasoning is based on how palatable I may or may not find the concept.

>new technology plays no part in his empire's prosperity, it's only slave labor
they have said this several times. Without a slave work force, civilians would have to do the same kind of work to have the same level of prosperity, and eventually that would piss them off. I can guarantee you cheerios isn't just keeping slaves around for funsies. He benefits from them on both angles of propeganda and free labor.

>Nice no evidence you have to support your assertions.
I am giving you all the evidence in the world, it's just upsetting and you're not willing to listen as a result. His anti-demon task force can only do so much against methods such as guerrilla tactics, assassinations, deals brokered with other countries, noble houses, races, literally anyone who decides that they would rather *be* Cheerios than be his friends. Collapse is inevitable when you are ruling by overwhelming force rather than making alliances, which is exactly what Cheerios is trying to do. You might have a good run, but it's unsustainable, period, even in fantasies.
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>>157143000
AMIRITE?
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>>157134597
Hey there demon apologist, how about you FUCK OFF?
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>>157143039
You're right, Gilles. You always are.
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>>157143036
>claim to understand the conversation is about choices given in-universe information
>proceed to argue about bullshit like narrative structure and the protagonists in stories
>have it pointed out to you that this is not in universe
>>wow anon how can you expect me to provide in universe evidence for these out of universe arguments i made that's ridiculous
you're either legitimately retarded or just degenerating into incoherent shitposting because you realize you can't argue a coherent point. whatever.
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>>157143177
As I have already said, given that you are strictly wanting to ignore author intent and narrative, Cheerios is more than just fucked, the apocalypse happens in the event of Bahamut. You can deliberately ignore the actual "in-universe arguments" you're bitching about that I've addressed and whine about my shitposting all you want, but I'm still the only one here making a coherent argument above
>you just don't think Cheerios is the god emperor because of your feeeelings
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>>157143292
You have 0 in universe arguments that cheerio's hypothetical human empire would be less capable of fending off bahamut than the hypothetical federation of every sentient species. That is the point.
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Azazel will notice he is not making her blush anymore so he will kiss her.
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>>157139386
I think you mistook Madhouse for Manglobe. Madhouse is still successful.
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>>157143347
Here is my in universe argument:

It literally took god and the devil making a goddamn magical suicide pact just to *stop* bahamut. Favaro's talon is a deus ex machina and therefore cannot be accounted for because within the logic established in the universe, it cannot exist without author intent. So we are looking at Cheerios slamming his dick on the table, raiding and slaughtering one third of the realm's inhabitants while enslaving/abusing another third, and you seriously think he has a chance in hell?

Remember, you would have to say that cheerios is somehow literally more powerful than the two most magical fuckers and all their resources in the series working together. That's way past delusional and onto fellating him as a character.
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>>157143504
>it cannot exist without author intent.
Stop bringing up this bullshit. We already established that we're talking in universe. And in universe we have no idea how possible it is to recreate magic asspull thorns or something capable of fulfilling a similar role.

>Remember, you would have to say that cheerios is somehow literally more powerful than the two most magical fuckers and all their resources in the series working together. That's way past delusional and onto fellating him as a character.
No I don't. I have to say he and his race are capable of producing more power than the two most magical fuckers. And since he and his race are currently kicking the shit out of the races of those two magical fuckers it's really not that unreasonable.
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>>157139625
That's some mighty shit taste they have here.
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Holy shit this character is insufferable. Her character consists of one (1) gag that isn't the least bit entertaining and was already beaten to death by the end of the first episode. And it just keeps getting worse and worse with every episode. She gets attacked by thugs and immediately she becomes a meek helpless whore who can only let it happen while she fantasizes about what it would be like for the men assaulting her to strip her right there in the street, fill all of her holes, and then when they're finished with her take her home to be their cumdump. That's apparently protagonist materal. Even Kaisar wasn't this much of a wothless joke.
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>>157143399
I was going to google to make sure I was thinking Madhouse and not Manglobe and just went 'nah'. Thanks for correcting my flub! I keep mixing up the two because a producer of Madhouse founded MAPPA, while Watanabe and Sayo Yamamato both worked with Manglobe.
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>>157143703
Would you be able to turn Nina into a dragon, anon?

I think i would.
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>>157143617
In universe it's not possible because that's the entire point of a deus ex machina. If it was possible there wouldn't be any inherent logic within the existing universe because the entire point of a deus ex machina is that it defies logic, thus being a "magical asspull". I don't know why you're finding this so difficult to swallow.

>I have to say he and his race are capable of producing more power than the two most magical fuckers. And since he and his race are currently kicking the shit out of the races of those two magical fuckers it's really not that unreasonable.
yet he is not gaining any additional resources that they didn't already have, and all of his magic is completely worthless against child Michael. That's *one guy*, and not even a grown, fully powered magical person but a child. Since Michael didn't do shit against Bahamut, it's only logical to assume that magic Cheerios possesses won't do shit to Bahamut by extension. It's completely unreasonable.

The combined, fully armed and prepared forces of the angels and demons in genesis were able to hold Bahamut for maybe a few hot minutes, and only for enough time that Favaro and his magical girlfriend could use both of their magic bullshits together (that Cheerios clearly is not in possession of) to temporarily halt armageddon. That's completely pathetic.
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>>157143617
>And in universe we have no idea how possible it is to recreate magic asspull thorns or something capable of fulfilling a similar role.
In-universe, it was an extremely unlikely event that Chariose has done nothing to make happen again, and Favaro didn't even make the thorn, he just found it from an ancient magical being that Chariose would probably have just murdered.
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>>157143774
Nina's standards are not very high. All you need to do is be decently kempt and smile. That's literally it.
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>>157143860
what a slut
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>>157143860
What does it mean about Favaro then?
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>>157143979
She probably saw his shit eating grin once and all interest went down the shitter. She's just not cultured on Favaro's appeal
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>>157143830
You're looking at narrative structure and using it to derive conclusions about in-universe choices, fucktard. In universe the thorn wasn't labeled "THIS IS A DUES EX MACHINA BTW AND CAN'T BE RECREATED EXCEPT BY AN OFFICIAL PROTAGONIST"

>and all of his magic is completely worthless against child Michael
No, all the magic that he could strap to 10 guys who didn't expect to fight anyone but a demon was worthless. Stop pretending 10 dudes not winning every fight ever means humanity can't kick the shit out of angels and demons, which they apparently can.

>(that Cheerios clearly is not in possession of)
You don't know that. From an in-universe perspective it even seems more likely humanity and their technology-esque approach to magic would be more capable of understanding and manipulating things like baha's glowing head weakness than angels and demons just coasting on natural talent.

It's completely reasonable for cheerio to think he and his rapidly advancing race have a better shot against bahamut than if uncreative layabout gods and demons hog all the magical resources just to try the same thing as last time.
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>>157134647
I am calling bullshit right now!

Fuck you for even putting that idea in my mind.
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>>157143703
Still better than Amira.
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>>157139561
>unintentionally

He knows exactly what he's doing.
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>>157138399
>She wants his meat
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I understand why traps turn men into prancing lala homo men.
But before tonight, I wasn't sure what was so appealing about men to Fujoshi
Now I understand it after that dance.
How can Cheerio be so perfect?

>Is king of the humans
>Sneaks out the palace to have fun and meet cute girls
>Knows peasant dances
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>>157144187
>In universe the thorn wasn't labeled "THIS IS A DUES EX MACHINA BTW AND CAN'T BE RECREATED EXCEPT BY AN OFFICIAL PROTAGONIST"
except it is you twit. That is literally how the structure of "withholding the ancient evil" works. The only people who don't know that are the people inside the narrative. Since we're outside of it we should know better than to say "oh yeah, anyone can find a random powerful artifact that will stem off the ancient evil, including an antagonist!". I don't know why you still seem to believe that the logic of the story and it's characters should follow your headcanon and husbando rather than author intent.

>Stop pretending 10 dudes not winning every fight ever means humanity can't kick the shit out of angels and demons
Michael literally nullified their magic. Obviously the angels don't have that available to them or holding off Charioce's raids would be easy shit. We have already established that Bahamut >>>>>> Michael. Charioce simply isn't equipped to deal with that kind of enemy.
Also cut it out with your >10 dudes meme. It's never been that few.

>It's completely reasonable
It's really not. If you would calm your WH40k boner down you would realize that. Bahamut is not an enemy that is defeated by traditional means, period, as shown with the previous encounters. Cheerios clearly does not have those traditional means or he wouldn't have risked letting Azazel get away. The fact that he even had so much trouble with a moron like Azazel should instill very little confidence that he'd be well equipped against a more formidable enemy.
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>>157144187
>In universe the thorn wasn't labeled "THIS IS A DUES EX MACHINA BTW AND CAN'T BE RECREATED EXCEPT BY AN OFFICIAL PROTAGONIST"
Except it was. They even had a whole legend about it and called whoever wields it the "legendary knight".
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>>157144599
Congratulations, you have achieved the level of thought and perception of a whale.
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>>157144683
Someone help this woman
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What did he mean by this?
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I feel like this show has been stuck in a loop for the last six episodes.

Next episode Azazel is going to attack, fight until he starts losing, and Nina will stop him from getting killed by turning into a dragon mid fight.
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This and Genesis are one of the best animes I've ever watched. The animation is top notch and all the characters are fun.

Is there any particular reason for the animation being so smooth?
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>>157144738
That she's danced before.
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>>157144683
She is so needy.
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>>157144738
Cheerios wants a pure girl

>>157144748
Mappa is really good at redirecting the eye. In a lot of the frames with really nice looking animation, theres something in there that looks pretty ass if you pause and try to find it.
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>>157144829
>In a lot of the frames with really nice looking animation, theres something in there that looks pretty ass if you pause and try to find it.
That's called an inbetween, anon. They aren't supposed to look as good as keyframes.
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>>157144792
KEK
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>>157144622
Oh I thought you wanted to argue about something interesting instead of just
>hurrr this is a story written in the modern world therefore the guys not keeping slaves will win
Yeah brilliant deduction there, dumbo.

>Bahamut is not an enemy that is defeated by traditional means
You're literally saying nothing meaningful. Like I made fun of you for doing before you just declare the shit cheerio is doing 'traditional' and declare that 'traditional' shit won't beat bahamut. It's not an argument, it's shitty wordplay blatantly trying to obfuscate the fact that your conclusions are all derived from knowing that this is a story instead of any in-universe evidence.

>The fact that he even had so much trouble with a moron like Azazel
He had 0 trouble with azazel once he sent his best guys. He had trouble with an angel baby and random dragon that he had no knowledge about and couldn't prepare for. Now that he knows they're out there he can start planning for them and will presumably defeat them.

>>157144631
Did the legend say that no one besides the 'legendary knight' could ever deal with bahamut?
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>>157144829
You do know what an inbetween is, right?
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>>157144740

It hasn't had very heavy progression, no.
This episode especially wasn't very progressive for the story. But was very entertaining none the less.
I think in the end it will be considered much worse, it's quite nice as is while it airs though. When people watch it in the future, they will note the shit pacing it had going on.
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>>157144904
It's not like I'm not enjoying the show, it's just showing both a slow pace and a weirdly repetitive plot structure in the meantime.

It's a weird standstill that will be irrelevant whenever the plot picks up.
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Is there any chance Chris is actually Charioce?
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>>157144922
Have you even looked at them? They look nothing alike.

Charioce doesn't even wear glasses, for fuck's sake. People here really are retards.
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>>157144851
>>157144890
That's not what I meant

Take for example the scene where Charioce is doing the dance and Niina is just watching. That bit of animation looks fantastic until you realize that Niina has got some pretty bad CG going on.
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>>157144922
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>>157144943
But how did Charioce get hold of that pepper? Is Chris secretly working for the king?
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Where do I get my own dragon?
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>>157133811
[incoming dragonboner]
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>>157144989
Charioce obviously went out of the castle to meet his pal Chris and the dude gave him the pepper.
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>>157144917

It is very enjoyable.
In the moment only.
I am saying if someone goes back and watches this on a binge, they will note that half this anime like you said, repeated the same shit over and over. Kaiser failing and getting down on himself, Azazel attacking and failing, slaver guy getting btfo, repeat of the same nina gag.
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>>157144738
C-Could it be that a part of Amira's soul is in Nina and that's the reason why she knew how to dance this? Could it be why Favaro taught her?
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>>157136879
>whatever. I'll watch it for Rita but this is seriously horrible compared to the first season
I mirror your sentiment with everything other than horrible. It's one of the better shows this season. Yes, the first season was better and this one has meandered in a horrible way but it's still pretty damn good.
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>>157139386
>>157139508
They were already on Bahamut thanks to Cygames money before Yaoi on Ice, whose production was a rushed nightmare unlike Bahamut's more relaxed one.
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Is there a summary of the first season somewhere? I watched it and nejoyed it but I can't really remember the plot so I am a bi confused. Rita is still the be girl.
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>>157144885
>Did the legend say that no one besides the 'legendary knight' could ever deal with bahamut?
Yeah pretty much. For the particular Bahamut awakening there was supposed to be a figure who came and sealed him away. Jeanne told Favaro the legened, and since she was being championed by the heavens to be the knight there was a visible tint of disappointment on her face and in her voice when she saw someody else on top of Bahamut. Moreover, the Ancient forest dragon said it was Favaro's fate specifically after he pulled the barb from his foot. For the time being they seem to be out of options if Bahamut suddenly reappeared as the prophecy said about a single event in which the bahamut is being sealed by the knight, not that every time the bahamut appears a knight appears with him.
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>>157137388
>implying either of them are end game
It's two cour for a reason. Why do you think they've set her up as a flighty bint who changes who she likes at the drop of the hat. You think she's azael's pal but she's everyone's gal.
By the end of it she will be in a romance that was introduced in the second cour.
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>>157138847
How does it feel to be underage.
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>>157144885
>this is a story written in the modern world therefore the guys not keeping slaves will win
What? Are you still butthurt about that? This isn't about anyone winning, it's about people losing. Which Charioce will because he's not building a sustainable empire. He is deliberately creating an economic bubble for his people because he's too shortsided to realize that Me First At Any Cost is a terrible way to govern a country.

>You're literally saying nothing meaningful.
Just because you don't have an argument and you're upset that I'm correct doesn't mean I'm misleading you. And yes, my conclusions *really ought to be derived from knowing this is a story* because it is a story. We are not restricted by ignorance in the way that the characters are to not know they are in a story. Some characters even subverse that by being genre-savvy, and they are rewarded for understanding the way their story works and their role within it. The structure of a world and it's narrative are based on tropes and memes and thus that becomes the inherent logic of the universe. As >>157144631 pointed out, this can be seen in all sorts of folklore shit with "pure of heart" heroes and "chosen ones" and Cheerios is simply not up to snuff in any category of hero in any mythology.

>He had 0 trouble with azazel once he sent his best guys
Gotcha. It took his best guys to deal with one person, and he still ripped through several of his soldiers. Yet you're suggesting that he even has a shred of hope against the penultimate representation of chaos and mythological destruction. Good joke
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>>157145122
Churot is obviously the endgame. They wouldn't be pouring all the budget into that fancy dance scene and then not make them end up together. Wouldn't that be awfully anticlimactic?

Unless they're doing a subversion of the last season and all of it is an elaborate ruse.
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>>157145085
>fags on ice looks like shit because of Bahamut
>all these handsome men in Virgin Souls and they're all straight as fuck
Fujos eternally btfo
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>>157145122
>Favaro swoops in in the season finale
>new Favaro x main heroine romance
While it's kind of become a joke I honestly think that Azazel has a stronger chance for end game. He's a slower burn and there's more cinematic hints and framing that suggest him and Nina will ultimately have a stronger connection.

Though I'm fully expecting that Niina will more or less be put in the corner to the Azazel/Charioce rivalry
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>>157145136
Feels pretty good.

How does it feel to be old, grandpa?
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>>157145089
Amira wants to meet mother, so she asks Favaro to show her the way to Niflheim.
They meet Jeanne on their way and the guy who says that he's her father.
They reach Niflheim, after some battles with Azazel
Its revealed that the guy who said he was Amira's father was actually a bad guy who told a boss demon to revive bahamut and control it by creating a half demon/half angel Amira.
Dark Jeanne kills a bunch of angels, Favaro reaches Amira absorbed by bahamut and she saves the world after a kiss
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>>157144748
>animes
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>>157133799
Hey I'm mere anon and try not to stink too much or act creepy around girls too. Gotta keep up an image.
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>>157145243
Fujo here and enjoying this more than winter olympics gays
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>>157144599
>Fujoshi
I don't think you know what that word means.
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>>157145168
It's perfectly sustainable, you just don't like it. The authors of a story inevitably making something fail because the retards buying their product would get all butthurt at a slaver winning doesn't make slavery unsustainable.

>Everyone should live life according to narrative structure and memes because that's the logic of the universe
That's as retarded as most of the other things you say.

Oh no several soldiers died to take down the last fugitive in the kingdom and would have succeeded if not for unforeseeable intervention. Law and order is fucking doomed.
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>>157145289
>>157133799

He chomped on it like an animal after using fork and knife like a refined gentlemen because he was angry and frustrated. I thought it was quite the characterization.
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CUTE BOYS! MY ONLY WEAKNESS!
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>>157145298

How can anyone resist Cheerio?
He is so perfect.
Azazel is obviously quite the man since he's not turned on by trap-chan, he needs cheerio to break down the barriers to his cold icy demon heart.
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>>157133799
>my feet hurt
>it's loud here
>this chicken is too spicy
>does she even like me
>I bet she dances with everyone
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>>157145342
Azazel looks like an emo faggot (which he probably is).
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>>157145310
>would have succeeded if not for unforeseeable intervention.
See here you already have a precedence for the unexpected. Unaccounted for things do happen in a universe ruled by magic and this should already be the first humbling lesson for Charioce in his plans for conquest which he most likely refuses to pick.
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>>157145310
>it's perfectly sustainable
I have asked you several times to name one civilization where abusive slavery was sustainable and didn't end up with a slave revolt and you have named exactly zero, because they don't exist you retard. Don't be deliberately obtuse just because you get a stiffy at the thought of your mustard slaver race.

>That's as retarded as most of the other things you say.
Except because it's a story, it's literally a fact.
If you knew you were in a horror movie and your long-time sorority friends invited you to go to an abandoned cabin in the woods for lots of sexy sex would you be like "yeah, well, I've known these girls for ages so therefore this is perfectly safe", or would you say "wow, fuck that, I'm in a horror movie" and let them go off to get murder raped on their own?

If you aren't retarded there's only one logical answer here.

>Law and order is fucking doomed.
What the fuck are you talking about law and order for you lunatic
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>>157145245
I don't think Nina will end up with any of them in a relationship of any traditional form so what I consider the actual endgame is exactly that deeper connection you talk about. Whoever achieves it will probably be the one to have the most heartfelt goodbye with her when they inevitably part their ways. We had a lot of the similar beats of the first season already so I expect it to end in a "traditional" for bahamut fashion.
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If there's anything an Amazon Kindle is good at, it's reading manga
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>>157145628
B-ville?
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>>157145421
Unforeseeable things happen in real life. Instead of being retarded and deciding it's the will of the universe and they should never try to change anything people adapt and learn to deal with unforeseen obstacles.

And "magic" is just our word for a universe that operates by different rules than ours does. People being able to shoot energy bolts at each other doesn't mean all attempts to do anything are doomed and the universe has no rules.

>>157145535
Name one civilization period where everything was sustained forever you fucktard. You just decide to blame slavery for the inevitable collapse of any society because of your fee fees.

>muh slave revolts
Don't usually succeed.

No one knows they're in a horror movie you retard.

Your entire retarded point was that they couldn't deal with azazel therefore their society was somehow doomed because of demon revolt. They are capable of dealing with him and have apparently dealt with everything else. A couple random people coming along to save his ass doesn't change that.
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>>157134777
Almost as good as Falconia
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>>157145210
>characters who have the most budget are the most romantically viable
Nah, they just love their dance scenes and this was the best place for one. Don't think TOO hard about it.
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>>157145628
>localizations
Why are they so shit.
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>>157145294
That's because the fujo don't want gays. You're a twisted people who get off to the idea of CHANGING a straight character gay.
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>>157145369
>charry being beta
>I bet she dances with everyone
While she's too timid to do so she would if she could that repressed hussie
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>tfw no dad like Bacchus
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>>157145535
America.
Slaves were saved by forces other than themselves. Often the case actually. How many revolts can you cite that didn't occur with foreign assistance or with the help of a government that used emancipation as a tool to create disunity and distrust in the current regime?
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>>157145669
>because of your fee fees
That's pretty rich. How mad does it make you to know that you'll never be able to live out your white daddy fetish anywhere but your own fanfic, hmm?

Our entire argument started because you couldn't stop gushing that Charioce can achieve his dream empire as expressed to Kaisar, which is one that can eventually take on and defend itself against Bahamut. That said, Charioce has an incredibly foolish practice of placing his country's economic prosperity upon the back of an abusive system of slavery. Slave revolts in instances where there was significant abuses of human rights actually, yes, usually did succeed, or the infrastructure collapsed under an invading nation because once a war starts and you no can no longer frighten your slaves into submission, you're fucked. There are so many things that can go wrong with a system of slavery that has zero benefit for the subjugated, and fast. In fact, so fast that they're happening within the decade of Cheerio's rule. It's that stupid of a system.

>No one knows they're in a horror movie you retard.
So why do you insist on acting like this show takes place in a real universe you chuuni fuck

>Your entire retarded point was that they couldn't deal with azazel therefore their society was somehow doomed because of demon revolt.
Cool, so you can't read. I brought up Azazel to point out how easily Bahamut would mop the floor with Cheerios.
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>>157143703
how does it feel to be so gay anon?
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>>157145892
Technically you're correct, but that's partly semantics. Those revolts and emancipations are always so successful because slaves see opportunity in war to find a better life for themselves that would be otherwise unavailable.

And American slavery isn't even the best example, because there are so many instances of life for American slaves where slavery *was* the better option for them because they were afforded safety and privileges that they could otherwise never be assured, even if they fucked off and made their own convent far out past white civilization.

The slaves in this situation are laughably different because not only are they slaves but they are corralled into slums, receive no pay, are routinely murdered/raped by their owners and don't have the protection of the law, and have no access to food because they're trapped in a giant fucking ditch surrounded by humans. This is the most cartoonishly extreme form of evil slavery you can concieve. For fucks sake, as soon as their freed they go off to murder their captors in *the middle of the street*. The demons are way past the boiling point in desire to revolt.
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>>157145947
>muh slavery
That is some seriously debilitating autism.
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>>157145947
>That's pretty rich. How mad does it make you to know that you'll never be able to live out your white daddy fetish anywhere but your own fanfic, hmm?
i'm having this conversation because you're a dipshit who can't understand the difference between rational expectation given your information and narrative structure designed to sell in a modern society. your weird obsession with daddy fetishes is all you.

our entire argument started because some retard (i assume you) sperged out about how cheerio's plan was unreasonable because said retard can't understand the distinction between the author making someone lose and the character not making the best choice according to his information. toddlers can handle the idea that people other than them might have different information about the world but you apparently can't.

>So why do you insist on acting like this show takes place in a real universe you chuuni fuck
because that's the only context where discussing whether he's making the right choice has any meaning you chromosomally impaired monkey

so you were pulling power level comparisons out of your ass and failing to account for any extenuating circumstances? my bad your point was even more retarded than i thought.
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>>157133800
Huh, this is well animated. Maybe I should pick it up.
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>>157145669
>And "magic" is just our word for a universe that operates by different rules than ours does. People being able to shoot energy bolts at each other doesn't mean all attempts to do anything are doomed and the universe has no rules.
Okay that's a nice heroic manifesto you got there but the sentence is pretty literal and straightforward. In their universe magic trumps all, that already gives us a first rule. Charioce knows the very basic rule hence why he doesn't even attempt to go at his targets with his ordinary human powers. Another rule would be that the magic Charioce is using is classified as "forbidden," meaning that not even innately magical entities are opting to use it. He doesn't know the full extent of the rules regarding this magic, thus he's already putting himself out there and wilfully provokes more unexpected for him situations. He truly does not understand the full extent of the magic he uses, when that magic has been established in universe as too much for the gods, let alone humans who aren't innately able to generate their own magic.

>people adapt and learn to deal with unforeseen obstacles.
Like I said before, Charioce not only rejects a lesson after his first unexpected situation, he intentionally creates more of them. And those situations by definition aren't something you can just adapt to since they stem from chaos and the unexpected. The only solution would be developing something like a supernatural instinct or intuition and being open to all knowlege. It doesn't look like Charioce is very much into that stuff considering that he has a pretty strong tunnel vision and has a very exploitative approach at using the magic. For him the magic is nothing but a tool and he isn't willing to get to know more about it or truly understand it.
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>>157146097
If you cannot seriously understand the difference between slavery that can bring benefit to the subjugated and slavery that actively abuses them your autism is even worse than mine bud

>>157146196
You're having this conversation with me because you're impossibly wounded by the fact that Charioce's rule is an unsustainable model of government. You're so romanticized to his ability as a conqueror that you can't see how crap his method of rule and economic policy is.

>the distinction between the author making someone lose and the character not making the best choice according to his information
To start, Charioce is not making the best choice according to his information. He is foolishly making enemies because >muh humanity because of his power boner. Even if he did make the best choice according to his information, there's a pretty good chance he'd still lose against Bahamut without author intervention, because good lord you don't really need me to explain a deus ex machina again, do you? You can't be that stupid.

>toddlers can handle the idea that people other than them might have different information about the world but you apparently can't.
this is unironically the best joke in this entire thread

>so you were pulling power level comparisons out of your ass and failing to account for any extenuating circumstances
I already discussed powerlevels. Bahamut fucks. Charioce would die. End of story. Even within your precious information known to the characters and "extenuating circumstances" there is no chance for Charioce to win against Bahamut.
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>>157146097
Come and be a slave at my place. I need somebody to clean up my mess. Or you know what stay where you are, I'll come for you.
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>>157146324
the point was you're bringing a bunch of connotative assumptions about 'magic' in when we haven't seen anything that really demonstrates their universe isn't as consistent as ours in its own way

>those situations by definition aren't something you can just adapt to since they stem from chaos and the unexpected
Putting your overly poetic language aside that's just life, dude. And successful people navigate it despite the chaos.
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>>157146448
>when we haven't seen anything that really demonstrates their universe isn't as consistent as ours in its own way
If you're this desperate to have a story go your way, just write your fanfic and call it a day dude
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>>157146441
>the guy that is most buttblasted about gun ownership is the same one who dreams of going on killing sprees

Every fucking time.
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>>157146441
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>>157146432
>He is foolishly making enemies
Then kicking their asses.

>crap his method of rule
It seems to be working out for him.

>Even if he did make the best choice according to his information, there's a pretty good chance he'd still lose against Bahamut
You have no basis for estimating 'chance'. You just don't want his approach to be reasonable so you decide it would inevitably fail no matter what.

>there is no chance for Charioce to win against Bahamut.
Good thing he's not planning to engage bahamut in fisticuffs.
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>>157136545
I want to throat fuck that angel!
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>>157146441
>Or you know what stay where you are, I'll come for you.
spooky
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>>157146575
It doesn't matter if he kicked their asses because when Bahamut rings the bell, Bahamut still rapes Cheerios in the mouth because Cheerios does not have the people and resources he would easily be able to afford had he made alliances instead. Even in the hypothetical situation, mind you, he would still lose.

>It seems to be working out for him
see you in a few episodes l m f a o

>You just don't want to! Your feelings! Bawwwwww!
If you stopped projecting your insecurities onto me and instead thought your arguments through logically maybe you'd be having a better time

>Good thing he's not planning to engage bahamut in fisticuffs
good thing you're only pretending to be retarded
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>>157146653
>Cheerios does not have the people and resources he would easily be able to afford had he made alliances instead
i'm sure you'll provide evidence for the claim that humanity with all the magical resources could not eventually become more powerful than if everything was shared between three competing groups. because this is totally something you reasoned out from evidence and not just something you want to be true

>b-but this is a story
which doesn't change whether his choices are correct given his information

>If you stopped projecting your insecurities onto me and instead thought your arguments through logically maybe you'd be having a better time
can't even have an argument with you because you're either too dumb or intellectually dishonest to stick to a context where our conversation makes sense

>good thing you're only pretending to be retarded
sick burn
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>>157133677
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>>157146448
No that isn't "just life." Don't play dumb. Magic is a force able to affect reality in a way that's outside of the realm of probability. And Charioce has some of the strongest magic on his disposal that he doesn't fully understand nor cares to understand. The potential for chaos from this alone is already huge.

>bunch of connotative assumptions about 'magic'
Stuff that I wrote about has been established within the show. It's facts. Are you about to start denying that the magic he stole isn't "forbidden" even though that's how it's being refered to on the freaking official website? Are you just going to ignore the Archangel's words because they don't suit your agenda? Seriously dude.
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>>157146808
>Magic is a force able to affect reality in a way that's outside of the realm of probability
see that's just another connotative assumption

>that he doesn't fully understand nor cares to understand
0 evidence of this. if anything the fact that he's mass producing/standardizing it indicates he does understand it

>Are you about to start denying that the magic he stole isn't "forbidden"
Guns were 'forbidden' some places. Not because they introduced some world ending voodoo but because they upset the established balance of power much like green magic is doing. Again you're attaching assumptions past what is implied.
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Smells like samefagging.
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At this point, it seems like Favaro won't show up until Cour 2 with some majestic entrance Im sure
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>>157146760
Evidence: the only magical resources that have even made a dent against Bahamut involved Sacrificing God and Satan as well as an ancient bit of magic waiting on a prophecy. Humanity, simply put, doesn't have the time to wait around for that shit before Bahamut attacks. And if you're saying by the time Bahamut attacks it wouldn't matter, I'd argue it would since Charioce's government would collapse by that point and he'd be taken over by someone who knows something about governing a country.
Also
>3 competing groups
what are we, capitalists? I'm talking about if they actually did the intelligent thing and worked collaboratively.

>>b-but this is a story
>which doesn't change whether his choices are correct given his information
anon why do you keep making up conversations in the middle of posts, it's fucking weird dude.

But to get to the bottom of it, what you're trying to say is that from what Cheerios knows, he's making the best decisions possible, right? That's the first coherent thing I think you've said in the entire thread. From his point of view, he probably thinks so. Objectively, and outside of the context of the story, absolutely not. He's sacrificing pragmatism for pride and glory, which is the worst possible decision when you have Armageddon on the horizon every few centuries or so

>You're too dumb or intellectually dishonest to stick to a context where our conversation makes sense
thats because I'm making an actual argument rather than falling back on "fee fees"

>sick burn
thanks anon I tried really hard for that one
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>>157146244

Not hard to draw over CG, but this is how CG should be used.
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>>157146934
it's (you)s all the way down
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What if Kaisar is the Virgin Soul?
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Fuck this otomeshit garbage

Pink autistic slut is a mistake
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>>157147079
Rita will help him with that.
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>>157133677
Cheerios did nothing wrong
KILL THE DEMONS
SAVE THE ANGELS
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>>157147137
>SAVE THE ANGELS
>Cheerios did nothing wrong
uh oh anon
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>>157146984
I'm calling it now: Favaro will show up at episode 12-15. He will be captured by Cheerios. They will save Favaro. Then info dump episode. Then Favaro fights with them. Anime will end with everything going back to the way it was before Cheerios.
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>>157147019
>>You're too dumb or intellectually dishonest to stick to a context where our conversation makes sense
>thats because I'm making an actual argument rather than falling back on "fee fees"
Did you actually think this was somehow a comeback or refutations? Really nothing you said is a real response to anything i said. Like the fact that baha was sealed one time by zeus/satan sacrificing themselves and people made prophesies about it doesn't really imply anything about whether humanity controlling everything can become more powerful than the gods/humans/demons banding together whenever baha shows up. You're just spewing words and hoping it makes you look less stupid.
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>>157147220
>Really nothing you said is a real response to anything i said.
I'm only following your example. The best you've given me is
>cheerios is trying really really hard
>I bet cheerios could do anything if he wanted to
and
>this is how you're feeling with this new post!

I'm still having fun if you are, anon. Because I'm still right.
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>>157146899
>see that's just another connotative assumption
More like the best definition of magic I could come up with on the spot. What's your definition of magic anon? Lasers shooting out of a hand? Hey whatever works for you, although my definition of magic would still cover yours since an act of randomly shooting a laser out of one's hand is as far as we know is still out of the realm of probability.

>he's mass producing/standardizing it indicates he does understand it
Nice assumption but all it indicates is that he knows how to use it, not that he understands it. If he did maybe he'd have some qualms about using it so freely, it is after all a forbidden force that has been sealed away by entities who were in rightfull possession of it and very well could have used it for themselves and ovethrow ballance or gain control over everything yet they didn't. Sorry to break it to you but Charioce is a squirt, he's 26 so he probably doesn't udnerstand everything there is to life itself. Why should we assume he understands everything there is to understand about an ancient forbidden force that has been sealed away by people much much older and wiser than him and which he had about a year or so to study? It's only common sense to assume that no, he doesn't fully understand it.

>Guns were 'forbidden' some places. Not because they introduced some world ending voodoo but because they upset the established balance of power much like green magic is doing. Again you're attaching assumptions past what is implied.
Now it's you who's making unsupported assumptions to fit your agenda. The equivalence here is nothing but your assumption without any evidence for it in the show and as such is going to be disregarded entirely.
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>>157138103

No you idiot. It's all about $.

YoI had a ton of QUALITY and shit animation.

RoB is just drowning in Cygames money.
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>>157147429
To be fair Bahamut has had quite a bit of wonk here and there. Just not in major scenes which should look good the way YOI did.
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>>157133677
>romance with a crazy genocidal murderer is fine when he's hot

Fujos everyone.

It reminds me of retarded whales crazy for that serial killer duo in F/Z.

Hilarious.
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>>157147462

Genesis had a lot of QUALITY in the second half and I'm pretty sure SV will be the same. They are already having schedule problems.
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>>157147357
>What's your definition of magic anon?
Any ability in a fantasy story that doesn't exist in real life. It doesn't have to imply anything beyond that.

>nice assumptions
>proceeds to make assumptions

>but all it indicates is that he knows how to use it, not that he understands it
the two are often related, though

> If he did maybe he'd have some qualms about using it so freely
or maybe he wouldn't. you have no clue why it was banned

>sealed away by people much much wiser than him
assumption

>Now it's you who's making unsupported assumptions to fit your agenda
I'm not assuming anything. I'm just saying there are possible alternate explanations for things like why the magic is forbidden which you're not considering because you're jumping to conclusions based on the connotation you attach to things.
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I like wht they did there. The guy on the right totally looks like Yoshihiro Ike, the OST composer.
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>>157147579
Proofs.
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Based mappa
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Looks like she's immune to Azzazel now
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>>157147617
Whoever made the shader for that cg platform did a nice job

>>157147638
something about the way he smooshes her cheeks is strangely erotic nonetheless
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>>157133677
AOTS
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>>157134647
We need this. So fags like >>157143088 can eat a dick.
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>>157147638
Yeah, he didn't care about him at all this ep, I think he will fail to trigger her transformation for the attack
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>>157147482
It's not murder if you're the king. Monopoly of violence is a thing in modern countries too.
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MAPPA and their fire porn. How do they do it?
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>>157147858
Would be pretty amusing

I'm looking forward to Cheerios redeeming himself, changing his ways, and realizing peace through Kaisar's vision. It will be the best way to humiliate humanityfags
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>>157145561
>I don't think Nina will end up with any of them in a relationship of any traditional form
This
Instead she will just marry Belphegor
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>>157147107
Yeah, I dropped it too. What a shame.
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When will Charioce realize that he is evil?
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>>157141864
>Nina is arrested
That's why you don't meddle with Demonfilth.
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>>157147617

How long can they keep up with this? I'm afraid they gonna go full QUALITY soon.
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>>157147482
>Moralfags
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>>157133800
This is classic Disney tier animation, holy shit. Next gen animu should follow this example.
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>>157147573
>the two are often related, though
And even more often they're not. You don't need to understand how the gun works to shoot it. You might even be able to put it apart then back again and you still aren't guaranteed to understand the physics behind it.

>or maybe he wouldn't. you have no clue why it was banned
If he knew of all the risks and ignored them that would definitely say something about his character. What can be derived from Archangel's dying words is that it'a a sign of arrogance and that humans are not able to handle the power. That's another warning he chose to ignore.

>assumption
For this I only have a sensible chuckle.

>I'm just saying there are possible alternate explanations for things
It's called assuming, if only for the sake of an argument, which you did in your post to refute an argument, even going as far as making flimsy real life parallels. The funniest part of this argument is that you're pretending like you're coming from an objective standpoint, but all you do putting a whole lot of good faith into the belief that Charioce will never come across a force that he's unable to stop or an enemy he's unable to defeat when the precedence is already there.
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>>157139996
>in the new season, it's Rita who has Kaisar's severed arm for a toy
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>>157139996
The fuck
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>>157148526
Don't bother. Anon's love for Cheerios is pure as fresh-fallen snow.
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anyone have a dl for the ED?
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>>157134002
I actually like this pairing better and was sad during the dance this episode. I just don't know if Cherios can be redeemed as good Azazel was.
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Azazelfags BTFO
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>>157134002
Nina you shitter
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>>157148865
we're only on episode 6 so cheerios getting this much development so early is a bit of a death flag, no?
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Best faces this season.
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>>157147482
Beautiful people get away with everything.
News at eleven.
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QUAAK QUAAK QUUAAAAKKKK
>cuts to edgy opening

What did they mean by this?
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>>157149148
He's the biggest.
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>>157148903
Hmmmm.
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>>157133677
I want favaro back.
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>>157149087
I don't think it's a death flag for him but may be a false flag for the shipping.
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>>157147482
now let's swap the roles
>romance with a crazy genocidal murderer is fine when she's hot

suddenly it's the hottest shit
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>>157135941
wow anon you gave me a lot to think about maybe hitler wasn't such a bad guy after all
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>>157149309
Totally true.
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>>157145738
But the scene was thematically very similar to the previous one. Hero who's controling the situation and who's an enigma for the heroine and the heroine who's clueless and naive and is having her first night out. She even meets the "other guy" after the dance. As far as I can tell it very much looks like their crown Hero and Heroine dance scene.
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>>157148865
>I just don't know if Cherios can be redeemed as good Azazel was.
Since fucking when has Azazel been redeemed? He hasn't made up for killing humans for fun last series in any way or even shown any remorse for it. Just because you fangirls wanna fuck him even more now doesn't mean he's redeemed in any way. That's not what redemption means.
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SMALL
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New thread when?
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>>157149476
Redemption is a function of hotness.
This is fact.
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>>157134477
Reminded me this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1v_EcjeIkg
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A very plot convenient yet completely ridiculous portrait. Who the fuck gives themselves portraits like that, especially someone who aspires to be a revered king.
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>>157148524
>>157146244
>>157138103
What the fuck happened to /a/? This is literally just 3DCG, and not even great 3DCG.
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>>157136207
>He wasn't.
Sure thing.

Killing all internal opposition to his personal views in death camps and declaring, what enslaving entire nations its a right thing to do, is ok.
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Poor Bacchus was bullied too much this episode.
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>>157149171
This guy was totally right. Actually I'm feeling so damn good now that I'll say it again, just to savour it.

Azazelfags. B. t. f. o.
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>tfw this show is selling like shit
FUCKING NIPS
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>>157149790
Winners write the history books, kid. Good or evil are just devices to protect your feels.

koff koff here have a blanket.

Have a blanket.
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>>157143703
It's not a gag retard. It's her drawback.
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>>157149883
What's with this meme? The sales numbers aren't even out yet.
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>>157135285
>LET IT END, LETITEND, LET IT EEEEEND
>IT'S ALREADY ENDING
Nina is a smaller Bahamut. She will bring about the end of the world dragon.
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>>157149823
Could Bacchus the baka be the real father of Nina. Maybe that's why her dragon mother sent her to live with him.
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>>157149983
> Dragon orgasms
> Millions dead
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>>157138978
And a cute voice I swear
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tfw no Bacchus to help you hook up with the prettiest guy in town
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>>157150131
> Implying Bacchus didn't just hook himself up with the richest guy in town
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>>157149883
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCKING NIPS AND OTHERS IN THE WEST WHO DON'T WATCH THIS MASTERPIECE
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>>157143385
Imagine the shit I'll gif that
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It's the best show of the season.
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>>157149891
You should still strive to treat others with empathy. He wasn't objectively evil because there's no such thing, but you should put your race over others within reason.
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>>157150471
Putting down an entire decrepit species sounds pretty empathic to me. Good work Chaorice.
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>>157133677
>>157133749
>>157133800
Thank fuck I did not pick up this romance trash. There is nothing more disgusting in the world than a man and a woman getting along romantically.
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>>157150673
How is the virginity going ?
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>>157150708
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>>157150708
How are the sales?
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>>157150673
Faggot
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>>157150708
> Assuming one's sex
Anon he could very well be a sheep fucker who has found the superior alternative to human contact.
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>>157150708
>>157150805
biting b8
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>>157144792
OTP OTP
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>>157145561
> B-But I like my Demon and Dragon pairing

I am fine with no one winning dragonbowl, but if Cherios get redemeed by muh love is not human I better be a ruler that benevolent to them as well I am surely be dissapointed
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>>157147579
This kind of info is why I bear /a/. Thanks anon
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