Why does Kaworu love Shinji?

>>157101657

we have this thread every single day

just read the interviews and about Anno's boner for ikuhara and shoujo

>>157101810
But none of that explains why Kaworu loves Shinji

>>157101836
why not? he just feels the love

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I can surely say that the only people who properly understand Eva here are Kaworufags. Just saying.

>>157102458
It's true, that's why Anno panders to them the most.
They're the ones communicating with others and living in reality.

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>>157101657

>>157102643
>that BL episode
It was fun to watch

>>157101836
You don't need a reason to love someone but Shinji and Kaworu were both lonely and handsome and decided to hook up

Would Gendo actually talk to Shinji if he was promised to get Yui back in return

>>157103116
Yui told Gendo to take care of Shinji, and he still ignored her so no.

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>>157101657

>>157101657
(You)

>>157101836
Because in the series NGE ripped off there's a more fleshed out character Kaworu is a copy of. You can stop making this thread every day now.

>>157103706
2/10

>>157103803
???
It's just the fact. It's the same reason none of the characters in Gunbuster barely make any fucking sense.

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>>157103823
1/10

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>>157103706
If you're talking about Ryo he's nothing like Kaworu outside of a few superficial similarities and after 20+ series he isn't really fleshed out at all.

You'd make a better argument for Selm from Nausicaa, but even Kaworu is a better character and more fleshed out than him.

I just assumed it was the love of a god for creation type deal, ya Adam has nothing to do with humanity but Kaworu seemed to take an interest in humanity.

>>157104069
yeah that's why he wanted to wipe off all humans really makes you think

>>157104472
Well he didn't seem like he wanted to, but knew it was necessary for him to achieve his destiny of becoming one with Adam

>>157104472
Before meeting Shonje-kun

>>157101657
STUPID SHINJI!

>>157107462
But why?
What's so great about Shinji that he changed his mind?

>>157101657
Because Hideous Anus is a talentless hack and Eva is an overrated babby's first "deep" piece of shit anime. It gets paraded as the greatest philosophical masterpiece in anime by mouthbreathers who haven't even read any entry level shit like Nietzsche, let alone know ANYTHING about philosophy.

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WHAT THE FUCK?

is this a troll thread?

does /a/ seriously not get NGE? I thought it was a meme


Angels are sent to earth in order to get to know and understand humans, in progressive order of approach

first ones just "hit" humans, as touch is the most primitive form

then come the angels who study humans, and go more in depth (literally, see the geometric angel)

in the end the ultimate form of knowing a person is through love, so the last Angel (kaworu) is created capable of love as that's the most intimate form of getting to know someone

Jesus you are pathetic.

>>157107639
>Hideous Anus
This is hilarious, I'm going to use this from now on

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>>157107674
>An anime about understanding
>Where the protagonist is a brown haired child forced to pilot the giant robot
>And his father is a piece of shit
>Praised for having deconstrcted the mecha genre

Hmm....where have I heard this before?

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>>157107884
>the giant robot

>>157101657
Because you have not witnessed Shinji-kun's cute slender dick, like Kaworu our lord and savior has.

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>>157108271
Shinji has an ugly stub of a dick

>>157107981
The viewer is inclined to think it's a giant robot at first stop being a jackass

>>157108450
>>157107884

they are different tho

Gundam is about the "need" to communicate and understand each other,
and in most of the gundam series, this vision wins

Evangelion is about the IMPOSSIBILITY of communication and understanding, total failure of human beings

much bleaker

>>157107546
Boipucci, of course.

>>157107546
I don't get why you don't ask the same question to Asuka and Rei, with whom he behaved pretty badly and they still fell for him

>>157109200
Women are dumb and desperate
Kaworu is literally ayy lmao jesus

>>157109363
Maybe he thinks like a woman then

>>157112191
Maybe he just wanted to get laid

>>157112459
He's angel, getting laid wasn't his first priority

>>157112191
Kaworu is the mother of angels so he's part female

>>157103180
Yeah, that's what manchildren do.

>>157113715
>implying boys can't be mothers
Nigga, you never heard of omegaverse?

>>157113854
Adam's soul is female though. The human vessel is male. Omega verse is irrelevant when you're a seed of life

>>157113972
They call Kaworu genderless in SRW

>>157113972
Kaworu is an angel so he's beyond gender divisions

>>157114041
>>157114019
And they said in another paper that he's only interested in same sex relationships so I don't know what to believe

>>157115189
It doesn't really matter because according to Shinji he's a boy, therefore Shinji is a raging faggot for wanting to fuck him

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>>157114041

>>157115189
I seriously doubt Anno planned all this shit carefully. Besides, it depends on the continuity. Shinji is an angel too on Rebuild so it fits

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>>157115737
I love this artist's doujins

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>>157116003
What is Karl implying? L-lewd.

>>157107674
I wantt o touch Asukas boobies

>>157101657
homo lust

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>>157116104
C'mon anon, that's clearly Qworu. Karl is too autistic for subtle puns.

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>>157116982
Animeworu is the most skilled in seduction though

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>>157117605
Animeworu is the smoothest, I'll give you that.

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>>157101657

>>157117605
Shinji pls

>>157116544
But Kaworu isn't male!

>>157118611
This is the gayest official art to date

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>>157119760
You haven't seen much official art

>>157119782
This is gay, but the one I posted is the gayest. There's a wet chick in a swimsuit just in front of them and they choose to stare at each other and blush like the massive faggots they are

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>>157102862
>You don't need a reason to love someone

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>>157119760
It's not really "official art" it's from NGE2 if I remember correctly.
This >>157119782 and pic are pretty gay though.

>>157120145
Don't argue with me. This is the gayest official art. We can do a poll and you'll see I win; there's nothing gayer than two guys sitting on the grass staring soulfully into each other's eyes while there's a chick in a swimsuit hanging around

>>157120262
I don't say the pic is not gay. I say it's not official art.

>>157120262
I'm straight and I do that all the time with my pals.

>>157120392
Admit it's the gayest art then, if you're a real man. Face your responsibilities.

>>157120471
That's gay

>>157120471
Do you blush at your pals as well?

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>>157120544
Dunno I think these are gayer >>157119782
>>157120145
Btw here's a screen from the same game.

>>157120586
Only when they say nice things to me (We support each other when we're feeling sad etc).

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>>157120262
The chick looked ugly af and had a shitty ass.
Even this art is gayer.

>>157120766
That's gay, senpai.

>>157121089
It's the gayest art. You don't know anything about gayness

>>157121233
Well no one can compete with your gayness, faglord.

>>157121089
>Even this
I'd say it's hard to find something gayer at all.

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>>157121305
Thank

>>157120145
it's from girlfriend of steel.

He doesn't. He's a psychopathic asshole who betrayed and nearly killed Shinji and all he loved.

Only fujoshits think otherwise because they are too swept up in their yaoi fantasies. Pathetic bunch.

>>157121120
Our balls didn't touch.

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>>157121437
(You)

>>157115809
Well it's not like Anno had a hand in the SRW and NGE2 guide books.
Or did he?

>>157121624
Would Kaworu love Shinji even if he was fat?

>>157121634
NGE2

>>157121484
Oh, sorry, it's ok then.

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>>157121701
I don't think he directly worked on the game, though.

>>157121786
>that kind expression
>ywn be loved so much

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>>157121972

>>157122044
pls no bully

>>157113489

getting laid with Adam is literally Angel's only priority

>>157121429
Oh right, sorry.

>>157122186
I thought they were just reuniting with him, not getting laid.

>>157101657
It's more like an angel's care in the original but since then it's been Gay as shit
He showed Rei similar treatments but she didn't care

>>157107674

Nice theory but doesn't really hold up

Zereul came later in the series and all he intended to do was fuck shit up physically just like the very first Angel

>>157122301

Given the context of the series "uniting" pretty much means getting laid

The Angels are seeking out the contact of another of their kind just like all the humans of the series are (or have personal problems because they're running away from that intimacy)

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>>157122483
So had Kaworu came in contact with the embryo, he'd basically have just had sex with himself? Deep.

I always thought that the Angels were progressively trying to become more human, and the conclusion they came to was that Love makes you human

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>>157122483
>all this time the angels only wanted to get laid

>>157117605
>>157118611
>>157119760
No you guys, see they're just completely heterosexual males discussing how aroused they are by that girl in a swimsuit. Totally normal and not gay at all.

>>157120707
Kaworu helps Shinji find his penis, which he clearly lost in the shower. >>157119782

>>157122584

Well Adam and Lilith's physical forms (embryo in the briefcase/Gendo's hand and the crucified giant in the basement, respectively) are just soulless husks for most of the series. Kaworu returning to Adam would be him going back into his original body.

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>>157122850
Understandable, considering it's so tiny

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>>157122850
Now it all makes sense! Thank you very much. I only don't really get this very heterosexual form of bonding >>157121089 Pls help.


Also here >>157120707 he says: "these plugsuits feel like you're not wearing anything at all"

>>157122879
But anon said uniting in Eva is getting laid

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>>157119782
Gayer art

>>157123065

Is this shit fuckin real lmao

>>157123065
Inaccurate translation

>>157123043

For other Angels yeah, Kaworu literally is Adam in human form though

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>>157123065
This game is very heterosexual indeed.

>>157122975
Well I guess that explains why he's voiced by a woman.

>>157123195

>Toji and Kensuke just kinda hang out like nothing's happening while all this gay shits going on right in front of them

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>>157123303
They already accepted Shonje's faggotry

>>157123303
I guess they moved to northern California.

>>157123258
Ogata looks and sounds like a fucking tranny, though

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>>157123544
All the other Eva games have Kaworu as the end game, though

>>157108291
Asuka deserves better

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>>157123303
Toji suspects something.

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>>157123794
Yeah, only another woman can truly love and understand a woman.

>>157123812
Toji is a fag

>>157123812
What the fuck

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>>157123812
But he has cupped the balls of an angle, and it was better than breasts

How would Kaworu react if he saw me fucking Shinji in the ass?

>>157102458
>t.fujoshi

>>157124971
True, only women understand Eva.

>>157124947
He put an at field on Shinji's ass so it's impossible

>>157124947
He would probably just look concerned and come over to ask if you were both okay.

>>157127034
Ayyy

>Tsurumaki: [..] we began talking about whether or not it would be better if Kaworu looked scary during that scene.
> — As a result, it looks like he’s come to take his bride by force!
> Tsurumaki: Right, right (laughing). [We thought it would be] more interesting if Kaworu looked like [he was thinking]: “You’ve been with a woman while I’ve been away? How dare you…!” It’s not Kaworu’s usual relaxed expression; he’s somehow become irritated, right?

>>157124947
He would fuck you in the ass because that way you will be his while Shinji is yours thus makin Shinji his

>>157127679

What is the context here

>>157127919
Evangelion 2.0

http://forum.evageeks.org/post/411903/Evangelion-20-CRC-Tsurumaki-Interview/#411903

>>157127679
Kawoshin marriage confirmed?

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>>157128396
Long ago, senpai. Where have you been?

>>157127679
That sounds really fanfiction-y.

But the first two drafts of episode 24 make them seem gayer than Yuri on Ice, so I'm not sure if Anno getting involved would have helped. Still, I find Anno's writing implies that Kaworu could have latched on to anyone; it just happened to be Shinji because he was around him enough to understand love between humans, regardless of gender.

>>157128489
Kaworu was especially interested in him because of how broken and fragile he was
Also according to Shinji he was like him, and according to Anno he is the "ideal Shinji", so there's something similar in the two of them that Kaworu wouldn't be able to find in any regular human.

All the shitposting in other eva threads stopped as soon as fujos got a containment thread, really makes you think

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>>157128489
It's written in many additional materials: magazines, journals, games that Kaworu is not interested in the opposite sex. So yeah, he's gay.

>>157128791
>other eva threads
You mean where you keep circlejerking with the insane Reifag over the same pointless stuff over and over again?

>>157101657
My personal view on Kaworu, feel free to discuss about it.

As of EoE, we know that he is an embodiment of "like/love". Thats his personality. He dont act lovable just to shinji, he tries to be a nice guy around everyone.
As he is "love" he loves all humanity, he is impressed by their achievements, he enjoys music, etc. But he knows that, because of his origin, he is fated to either destroy humanity or die before it. He chooses to die instead. (Eva was never about "fighting fate", so there is no reason to assume he could just fuck off and never trigger third impact. That isnt the point of the series.)

The problem is, kaworu, not being really human, has difficulties to understand how humans work, and how they will react. He knew shinji was the only one able to kill him, so he went and befriended his executioner, as a zen way to go off. I think he wanted to send shinji, and all humanity, the message that he was fine dying for humanity to live. I dont think he was acting towards shinji any different than he would act to anyone else in the same position.

But he didnt really understood shinji, and he had no idea how dependent on his "lovely" ways shinji would quickly become, and what his death would mean to the poor boy. Kaworu might not even consider the concept of death the same way as normal humans do, as he gets to tag along as a spirit in the LCL. To shinji, death is something much more permanent and serious.

Not considering anything from rebuilds in my theories, though.

>>157128791
Believe it or not sexuality is a major theme of Evangelion. Go back to Gunbuster if this makes you so uncomfortable.

We're debating Kaworu's sexual orientation because it is very much entwined with his interest in Shinji; and his interest in Shinji is a huge part of the story, even if it only shows up at the very end.

>>157129596
Do you think he was interested in him sexually? He did say "with me?" when Shinji said he should go to bed. And then he chuckled when Shinji was flustered

>>157129714
When I watched the episode and found out he was an angel I assumed he didn't have a concept of sexuality. But, reading this thread, it seems pretty clear that wasn't the intention.

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>>157107639

>Hideous Anus

My fucking sides

>>157129088
>he went and befriended his executioner, as a zen way to go off
This is the only part I have issue with. That would make Kaworu selfish and unequivocally cruel. Shinji killed him because he had to, and was the only person in a position to do so; Asuka was out of commission and Rei fucked off to go do some wild shit. He may not understand humans completely, but I think he should at least understand - as the embodiment of love - that deliberately getting so close to someone you knew would have to kill you would be wrong. He didn't look too happy about what was going on until Shinji grabbed him, and then he realized there was nothing else he could do.

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>>157129088

He was going to kill everyone on the planet until he got rused by Adam in the basement actually being Lilith.

It was only then that he embraced his destruction, since humanity had outsmarted all of his brethren and he was their last hope.

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>>157125412
A main stream girl such as yourself wouldn't actually, considering the message of the show is stop hugging your waifu pillow and get out.

The real question is did they fuck.

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>>157130087

D-Dozo..

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>thread is entirely shippers
this is evangelion cancerous fanbase in a nutshell

>>157130625
Why do you think Shinji was so mad the next day? Of course they did and Shinji felt ten times more betrayed

>>157130024
I wouldnt say its cruel, but i think he was, yes, a bit selfish.
Its is a VERY weird position im not sure i can even imagine being on, but i think he wanted some "confort" about getting put down by a friend. The kind of stuff you see in zombie movies when you get bitten and a friend have to put you down, or something like that.
Then again, i dont think he understand the weight of death for a normal human being. Both him and rei have a very weird relationship with death.
My point is, he wasnt doing what be did in NGE for shinji, but rather for humanity as a whole and for himself, and shinji got caught in the event.

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>>157101657
This is why.

>>157130100
Sure, but what concrete proof do you have that he wasnt just waving a gun around making empty threats trying to get suicided by cop?

>>157101810
This doesn't make any sense considering that his romantic feelings for Ikuhara was unrequited, this isn't shown in Kaworu character.

>>157131083

Again, he didn't know he was going to die until realizing Adam was actually Lilith

>>157131395
See above

If it had been Adam in the basement everyone on the planet would have died

>>157131347
If I had to wear a suit that hugged my asscheeks, I probably wouldn't want to get in the damn robot either.

>>157131589
This is no proof. He spent a suspicious while staring at lilith having a monologue before even getting closer and noticing it wasnt adam. Someone hellbent on destroying the world wouldnt have those hesitations.

Where is the proof that if he reached adam, he wouldnt "conveniently delay" the third impact mumbling till shinji burst into the room? He spent the entire descent to terminal dogma saying "shinji is late"

>>157131998

Because he's a fucking Angel and their entire purpose is to unite with Adam, their mother. Or in Kaworu's case, return to his real body.

He may have been conflicted with it all after meeting Shinji, but saying he would have stopped and spared humanity even if Adam had been in front of him is pure wankery

>>157132160
>You must erase me, or humanity will be erased.
He said after having "lost" the fight.
This does NOT sound like someone who feels any pleasure about what he is doing. It sounds like someone who has long since accepted his death. He would wait a couple minutes for shinji.
If something completely different happened, such as unit 02 beating unit 01 or shinji outright refusing to kill him, then i dont kniw what would happen.
And i dont think even kaworu did, i dont think he ever expected to win. Maybe he would trigger the impact because he is a fatalist faggot, but i dont think its what he wanted.

>>157132501
>>157132160
Also, a point im willing to concede and discuss is "why is he a fatalist faggot?"
Why cant he just fuck off and never trigger the impact? Does he know something we dont? Can his "angel instincts" kick off and destroy the world while unconscious? Those are valid points. But simply saying that the kaworu we see on screen would do it because he want to just dont cut it.

>>157130625
Sure they did. Did you the way the blankets didn't cover their legs or chest, it was only covering their boners. Of course they fucked.

>>157132501

>If something completely different happened, such as unit 02 beating unit 01 or shinji outright refusing to kill him, then i dont kniw what would happen.

I can tell you. Nothing. Kaworu couldn't have done shit other than sperg out and destroy NERV out of rage for getting one over on him and all of his brethren who thought their precious Adam was under NERV.

Kaworu realized the Angels had been doomed all along, and there was no hope for himself being the last one, so he let Shinji kill him.

>>157133651
Sperging out and getting enraged sounds very OOC for Kaworu.

>>157133651
Adam was under NERV, and he knew it. He would just keep looking. Throwing a tantrum isnt what he would really do, and i wouldnt call "shinji refusing to kill him" getting "one over on him"