Are you ready for /bestgirl's/ anime debut this summer?

Is this good as Fate/zero?

>>157099321
It's even more trashy than zero

>>157099321
As soon as they introduce a certain character after another dies, it goes to shit.

>>157096763
Astolfo is my favorite typemoon girl

>>157096763
I'm more impatient about the HF movie, even if the first part of the route is rather slow.

>>157099959
We'll be lucky to see HF BDs by 2019

>>157099321
fuck no

>>157099321
Not really. A certain character "becoming" a certain character ruins what could've been an actual great war with nefarious planning going on behind the scenes.

Nah, heaven's feel or death.

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>>157096763
>/bestgirl/
Yes.

>>157099321
Worst entry in the fate franchise.

>>157096763
A-1 is terrible at fights and Charlotte's director is attached, but hopefully Charlotte was mostly Maeda's fault and Fate money can pull the quality up. I've always been interested in Apocraypha because I want to fuck Jeanne d'Arc.

>>157099321

I think if you're talking about raw quality of writing the answer is pretty obviously and resoundingly no. That being said I think Apocrypha has a lot of fun characters with solid story arcs, and the plot takes plenty interesting turns as the war progresses. I liked it.

I'd compare it to Star Trek III. It has a lot of good stuff in it, and it gives you more or less everything you wanted when you went in, but it doesn't have a lot of merit as a work in-and-of-itself. It relies on the larger franchise to justify its existence where as other entries can clearly stand on their own merits. Plus, its obvious as you go through it that the story had a lot more potential than what ultimately plays out, and that's always a shame. Still, at the end of the day, it's not like you'll regret seeing it. Its a good entry and the franchise is better for it existing than it would have been if it was never made.

>>157096763
Enkidu?

>>157099321
>Anything in Fate made past Fate/Zero
>Good

>>157104097
That's strange fake not apocrypha

>>157096763
Best girl(male)?

>>157099321
This is the only series where TMfags say it is okay to be a secondary with.

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>>157104171
Okay, okay, now: Antoinette?

>>157103902
Are you complaining about shirou? What's wrong with him?
>>157104063
Higashide isn't a terrible writer, as l'ing as you like chuuni stuff

>>157104397
Seig

>>157104225
F/GO original.

Marie is a Rider, Riders in Apo are Achilles and Astolfo.

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>>157104733
Fuck! I saw a white lady. Last chance if not I give up on this: is the Cat in the house?

>>157104773
The cat is in it yes.

Oh yeah I'm so excited for dragon dick to ruin everything.

Fuck Sieg
Fuck Apocrypha
Higashide a bigger hack than Nasu

>>157104773
Yup, archer of red. She's in.

Mordred and her Master > Shirou & Saber

>>157096763
Why is Sieg so shit, he ruined the whole series, Jeanne and Siegfried

We will get a mode red flashback about Camelot?

>>157104892
>>157104928
Redpill me on Sieg

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>>157104787
>>157104899
Wonderful

>>157096763
Good tier: Setting, First half, Mordred + her master, Vlad, Siegfried, early Jeanne, Achilles, Catgirl, Karna, Wheelchair girl, Servant Priest Shirou
Bad tier: Most other characters, mid part
Fuck this show tier: the ending, Sieg, Astolfo, late Jeanne
Overall: Looking forward to the first 7 episodes and Mordred

>>157105038
Gary Stu Homunculus version of Fate-route Shirou who somehow bacame the main character and romanced the virgin saint

>>157105038
forced protagonist
>>157105049
I am not gonna ruin your fun.

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>>157105055
It has cool looking characters.

>>157105038
He shits up the story with his moralfaggotery and best husbando dies for the sake of overpowering him.

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>>157105137
But he looks cool.

>>157105176
That isn't Sieg. This is the husbando who dies to overpower Sieg

>>157105176
That's Siegfried not sieg, sieg is the fag that got him killed.

>>157105176
sieg =/= Siegfried
Siegfried is best husbando and he dies for the sake of that shitty homonculus Sieg

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>>157096763
I'd have many kids with Jeanne!

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>>157105201
>>157105208
>>157105214
I got it, though I know nilch about the fate universe. Just look at the pretty characters.

Karna, Vlad, and Siegfried seem like some good dudes to just chill with

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>>157105286
He looks badass too. This might be my first fate.

>>157104222
hahaha

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My husband Astolfo is CUTE!

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>>157105122
yeah, wheelchair girl was a plus. Her robot spider legs are a bonus as well

>vampires are the most OP beings other than Type memes and F/GO boss memelords in TM lore
>Lancer's last resort is to turn in the vampire
>still gets rekt

How would you rewrite the story with erasing Sieg ?

>>157105589
Gilgamesh is type meme?

>>157105589
E rank luck made him fight like 4 servants at once

>>157105589
Most vampires are scrub tier compared to servants

Only the top of the vamps are any real threat to groups of servants and that's not BECAUSE they are vamps but because they are true magicians, TYPEs, Beasts, etc

>>157105617
Gilgamesh EA ~=~ Ado Edem Slash Emperor ~=~ Type Meme

>>157105589
Vlad's vampire is somehow different from Dead Apostles. And Dead Apostles are generally weaker in Fate timelines.

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>>157105684
Then my friend Enkidu is one too right?

>>157105789
Apparent fucking ly

>>157106022
I saw his lines, he says he can replicate the grail.

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>>157106075
Something *akin* to the grail, not the grail itself.

And stop this 'vampire vs servant' shit right now; you all know that it's not a real argument to have

>>157106213
I don't care about vampires, I know nothing of them. I care about Enkidu, he said he can grant wishes.

>>157103942
whats danganrompa doing in my fate?

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>>157106274
No. This is Danganronpa.

>>157106231
>聖杯について: 「……欲しいの？ 聖杯。僕に魔力を注いでくれれば、願望機の真似事くらいはできるけど？」
That's not really 'replicating the grail' in any form. It should probably be taken, as a claim, to be on the same level as something which is written as "approaching the level of True Magic".

>>157106385
"Yes? Do you want it? The holy grail? If you poured some mana into me, I could at least serve to emulate its wish-granting function."

Is this translation wrong?

>>157099798
>>157103902
Who?

>>157106619
Never mind

>>157106619
Never read this so I might be wrong on this since i've heard random stuff about it, but from what I know Siegfried that is the Saber of black sacrifices himself and then becomes reincarnated into a kid, it seems to be one of those stuff of badass character needs to go to give place for the self insert character.

Again not sure since I never read this.

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>>157106552
That's a bit much of an overstatement on the 'emulate' bit. The word used is "mane" or "manegoto", which, herein, serves as meaning "imitation" or "[a] miming". It tends to imply imperfection, in usage; and, Enkidu uses "kurai", a word which approximates to "around" or "at least", to qualify the imitation. He's saying he could do something that might even be a close approximation to the wish-granting effect of the grail - meaning, he could probably get you a bunch of money or something if you had a metric fuckton of mana and needed it, but he can't do anything comparable to or on the scale of the Greater Grail.

Enkidu is absolutely not supposed to be summonable unless you already possess bullshit magical abilities or have some [special circumstances], so it makes sense for him to have that kind of power. I don't actually know how he's summoned in Grand Order; I haven't bothered to play it. Anybody want to tell me?

On mane/manegoto: I'm fairly sure Gil uses it to refer to Shirou/his projections at least a few times, to give you an idea.

>>157107165
I for one trust our boy Enkidu.

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>>157107208
I trust him, too; I just don't expect him to start vomiting miracles. The level of power which he possesses isn't enough to break a curse of death, yet he can fairly easily stop full-power Ea; so, it's kinda hard to tell what he can and can't actually do.

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>>157096763
>best girl dies

It's shit.

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>>157107448
Put your faith in him. He is not one to just run his mouth.

>>157107539
Well, yeah. That was why I pointed out the way that the translation might mislead.

>>157103942
From the tumbnail I was thinking Karna is riding a bicycle.

By-the-by:

Does anybody have any clue when we might be getting translations for volume 4 of Strange Fake? As far as I know, the usual translator possesses the book, but has not given any sort of schedule or even claimed that he would translate this book. So, to that end, I'm scared. And I'm also mildly impatient - it's been over a month since the volume was released. Why isn't that long enough to get at least *some* material?

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>>157107522
but thats always the case in fate

>caster dies in F/SN,UBW and HF
>Iri dies in Zero

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>>157099321
It's garbage. No one understands why this is getting an anime.

>>157109412
>when you need to save Archer Heracles for Grand Archer

>>157109407
Caster's show in Fate roue is utterly hilarious. Just these constant reminders are given about how she's gathering a fuckton of power with nobody stopping her and, as soon as she shows up, she gets kebab'd.

Apocrypha is fucking garbage

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>>157109545
I agree. Inadvertently, that is why the thread has radically changed topics.

>>157109505
>implying Grand Archer isn't Ji Chang

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Hyped as hell for /bestgirl's/ debut

>>157109475
>F/GO brings tons of newfags into Fate
>All recent Fate stuff makes lots of money
>Why are they adapting a finished Fate thing?
If quality actually mattered for adapting stuff, why does SAO have 2 adaptations with 2 cours each?

>>157109629
The Archer Heracles meme is too strong.

>>157109656
Because SAO is actually popular and people like it? No one likes Apocrypha. It's constantly ridiculed, more so than fucking DDD.

>>157109656
Then, a better question on the same theme: Why would they adapt a less-relevant Fate thing? I'm certain that it wouldn't be hard to redirect the effort into more Grand Order adaptations, or a one-off Strange Fake teaser adaptation in the vein of "First Order". Disclaimer: I am not speaking on the quality of Grand Order. I am saying that Grand Order is more relevant to the franchise than Apocrypha.

>>157109721
What do you mean? The fact that everyone always says that Archer Heracles would auto-win anything and everything, or something else?

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>>157096763

My daughteru? yes

I hope we get more figures, her current one is impossible to find.

>>157099321
The better question would be: "is this as shit as F/Z?"

And the answer is, unfortunately, it's worse.

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>>157096763
>bestgirl
Oh yes

Don't know about the best girl but I sure am hyped to see my boy Karna rek some fools.


>so you were attempting to tilt the situation by having me face two opponents? Is victory the only thing you care for? How despicable - though I suppose that is also one form of warfare. It makes little difference to me.

Can't wait for him to shit all over Vlad as well.

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>>157096763
I am.

>>157111213
Can he beat Gilgamesh?

>>157111755
Possibly, but for sure, Gilgamesh can't beat Karna

>>157111755
If Gilgamesh doesn't find out Karna's true identity and pull out Ea, Karna could probably take him. Also, thanks to Karna's UAM and his god killing NP, he makes for a pretty good counter to Gil.

Rest of the translation for Vol 3 when?

>>157111755
Enkidu hardcouters

its going to be Gil vs Herc 2.0

>>157099851
>girl

>>157111755
they fight in Extra CCC and Karna admits that Gil is (slightly) stronger. Then again that was not-class-bound Gil, who is OP.
Karna is a demigod, though, so Enkido will work and the chances of Gil using Ea go up a lot.

>>157104925
Kairi is an overrated piece of trash

>>157105105
I wouldn't insult any version of Shirou by comparing him to Sieg. At least characters didn't die just to power Shirou up

>>157107165
Grand Order kind of throws out most of the rules regarding summons, mostly for fanservice. The Chaldeas system is vastly different from the Grail wars we've seen in the past, and due to the nature of the Grand Order, it's kind of become an all hands on deck situation for Heroic Spirits. As a result you get weird shit like summons of individuals who haven't died yet, never appeared in the Throne, or armies of clones. It's fanservice, it's not supposed to make sense.

In regards to Enkidu, while he does appear in the Babylon chapter it's actually Kingu impersonating him. The one in the gacha is probably the real deal, but that ties back to the whole fanservice thing.

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>>157113768
o rly?

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>>157096763
When is this airing again?

>>157113939
>individuals who haven't died yet
What is Saber?

>never appeared in the Throne
What is Fake Assassin?

>or armies of clones
What is Saber Alter and Saber Lily?

You people keep spouting this "rule breaking" nonsense when there is a precedent to everything.

>>157114091
Merlin is still alive he has to be summoned through loopholes

>>157113268
>>157113685
Uncrowned Arms Mastership will make Gil underestimate him though. Gil will only pull out Enkidu if he knows Karna's true identity. Enough time for Karna to shove Vasavi Shakti down Gil's throat. It also helps that Gil has no idea what Vasavi Shakti is since it has no record of ever being used.

>>157114091
>Saber Alter
Saber corrupted by the Grail and summoned as Sakura's Servant in HF
>Saber Lily
Alternate costume for a fighting game that never got much backstory or explanation
>>157113965
Summer. We'll need fansubs because Netflix has the rights. And they don't put up shows until they're complete and they can make all episodes available at once for binge watchers

>>157114091
Alter and Lily never existed concurrently with Saber, and Lily's backstory as Princess of Knights was only codified by GO.

>>157105589
That's dead apostles. The Dracula noble phantasm turns him into a classic vampire rather than a Nasuverse vampire

>>157114257
>We'll need fansubs because Netflix has the rights
What?

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>>157096763
Drown in your ideals and die.

>>157114407
Netflix doesn't put shows they have licensed up for viewing until they're complete.

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>>157113939
As I understand it, your personal summons/rolls/whatever aren't supposed to be 'canonical' figures in the story of Grand Order. It's a game, so it's just letting you have fun with that. Summoning people who haven't died is allowed within the rules of the Fuyuki system. We have EMIYA, after all. And there's lots of instances of people not in the Throne being summoned, well-before Grand Order.

What I heard about Kingu was that, while he is 'impersonating' Enkidu, he's actually in Enkidu's dead body or something. Is that right, or is it different?

>>157114500
>Is that right
Yes

>>157114196
As are King Hassan, Scat, and presumably the Shikis and Alter Egos.

>>157113952
Id hardly call that a power-up. He lost his ability to project normally so if anything this is a replacement power.

>>157114500
I haven't quite reached that chapter myself, but that does appear to be the case. I think Tiamat was partly to blame for that as well. As for the rolls, you are correct. Presumably the only Servants Gudao consistently has is Mashu and whatever guests show up.

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>>157114627
Isn't King Hassan only 'alive' in the sense that he's not recorded as having died? Or is he actually some sort of immortal who just spends hundreds of years doing nothing in the shadows?

>>157114854
Both, probably. He's so good at killing that he essentially became one with death itself, and he will still always answer the call of the current Old Man, then kill them. Or just appear to take their head if they suck.

>>157114934
I feel like that should mean that he is an anthropomorphic curse, as opposed to an actual human.

>>157114453
...What?

>>157115238
Whatever he is, he's still human enough to qualify for Servant and Grand status.

>>157115562
What don't you understand, retard?

>>157115694
Let's start with the fact that Netflix has taiwanese pottery license

>>157115743
Netflix has had anime for ages. Both Zero and UBW are hosted there.

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>>157115743
You've been living under a rock or what?
>Nanatsu no Taizai (The fantasy shonen show)
>Knights of Sidonia
>Ajin
>Kuromukuro
>Little Witch Academia
>ID-0
>Blame
>Devilman Crybaby
This isn't the first time Netflix gets rights for anime

>>157116245
>Blame
Wait, what

>>157116374
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-24/blame-anime-film-to-be-netflix-original/.104629

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>>157115599
Eh. If "disease" can qualify as a Servant, I suppose King Hassan can qualify as human.

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>>157116447
stop talking about it and don't acknowledge it after it's come out

Who's going to sub it?

>>157117181
If ID-0 can be subbed by some /m/en, there will be fatefags willing to sub Apocrypha.

>>157117371
>fatefags
Looking forward to see a "people die when they are killed" joke in every episode.

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Someone, the other day, mentioned Gil laughing uncontrollably for a long period of time in the Fate/Zero sound drama. I was intrigued, so I found it, found the audio clip, and have stuck it on Youtube for you all to enjoy. It's nightmare enough to find the sound drama with all these sites going up and down; I should like to be so kind as to make such things available and easily accessible. Therefore!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH1tNlxzeLg

>>157117181
Being Aniplex based, it will probably just be handled by Crunchyroll.

>>157117837
Man I love Archer voice acting.
Saber sounds as plain as ever though.

>>157117837
god Gils Va is enjoying themselves

>>157099321
Its not that good plotwise but it has some really likeable characters, Japan likes to take shit on it because Sieg (Not Illya) gets the Jeannu waifu, right now it seems they are cashing on Hanae's popularity for him to voice Sieg.
Also Mordred is top tier daughteru

>>157104925
It is REALLY not hard to be better than Shirou and Saber.

>>157105038
Astolfo's fuck buddy

>>157116245
Devilman is probably something they produced though and not just streaming rights they have

>>157117920
If Netflix is gonna stream it, chances are they're gonna license it for the west too

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>>157096763
You bet

>>157118124
>Calling Gilgamesh "Archer"

Listen again; he's laughing at (you)

>>157121379
Not using their actual name is good manners to prevent spoilers for other anons who don't know the story and are just lurking the thread because fate is popular.

>>157121912
Gilgamesh's name isnt even a spoiler - its like saber using excalibur

>>157121912
Shirou is the blackman

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>>157121912
He outed himself as Gilgamesh when you first see him in Fate. There's no spoilers to be had.
>>157122112
That one actually was a twist but so ubiquitous now it's like the identity of Anikin Skywalker.

>>157122245
You're retarded. Gilgamesh is obviously Shirou from the future-past. Why do you think they both shoot swords?

>>157122529
That's cause he was summoned as an Archer when he was really a saber

If you summon him as caster he shoots spell books at you

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>>157122623
>If you summon him as caster he shoots spell books at you

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>>157122245
Indeed he is.

>>157122655
when all you have is a hammer...

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>>157122655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFwccj5TWio

>>157122655
Spellcasting is for plebs. You ever been hit by a book? Those corners hurt like a bitch.

>>157122986
I'm now imagining this low INT knight pretending to be a mage that specializes in makeshift throwing weapons and has a bag of holding that has an entire library in it

>>157123234
thats literally what Gil does- he cant into magic so he summons staffs and scrolls and chucks them

>>157118704
Sieg was voiced by Jeanne's husband in the F/SN mini game for the Vita

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>>157100936
You're dumb, anime movie BDs are almost always 6 months, at least for Aniplex.
It's just Kimi no na Wa that's getting milked in theaters around the world, and Koe no Katachi for some reason.

We'll get HF 1 by April next year, and at least there's Extra by SHAFT until then.

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>>157122529
>>157122623
>>157122655

>>157113952
Yeah, getting an arm that tries to take over your body, fucks you up whenever you project something and make swords spawn from the inside of your body killing you at the same time isn't the same thing as getting the power of a Servant and unlimited mana and the power to turn into a fucking huge dragon.

>Archer Gilgamesh throws swords at you
>Caster Gilgamesh summons magic items to shoot you with
I want to see berserker and assassin now

>>157125613
>calls it a sword
>looks like a drill
>is actually a staff
Shit is probably a keyblade too.

>>157127369
It is, at least in the anime adaptions

>>157127369
More like a wand than a staff. But he still calls it a sword. He's not the brightest.

>>157096763
nah, fuck that shit.
i just want prisma and my badass shero.

Is there anything hotter than walking into a room where astolfo just melted a bunch of bitches and then making her(male) a slave to your dick?

>>157122786
>You on used goods

>>157122508
No he didn't, first time he appears is on the fate route where he kills caster tells saber to be his woman and then goes away and saber tells everyone he was 4th war archer and she had no clue who he was,
Its only revealed who he is when Shirou guesses that since he has all the original noble phantams then he had to be the most ancient hero.

>>157130632
I forgot to add that only happens when Gilgamesh attacks Shirou and Saber while they are returning home after their date and discussion.

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>>157104063
who is the picard of the nasuverse?

>>157130834
Never watched star trek, what does Picard do?

>>157130860
He drinks a lot of tea.

>>157130860
he fucks the borgs shit up
hes captain of the uss enterprise and one of the most beloved star trek charcters next to kirk and spock

>>157127369
>looks like a gigantic ice popsicle

>>157130834
Waver?

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>>157124187
no france savior? I guess he fake assassin after all.

>>157132155
His monoshizao is right there, next to the real one~