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What's Headband-chan's endgame?
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Stalk Touma
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Join the Delta Force.
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>>157082238
To carry Touma's seed like 90% of the females including Aleister
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Posting rough scans of the B/W illustrations.
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>>157082377
She'll be fine.
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>>157082238
You are the Observer
You are Observing Touma and his life.
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>ywn be saved by Aleister
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>>157082377
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>>157082456
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So how did Touma get this Arrow in his Arm? did some magician come to his house late at night when he was a kid and shove it up his ass is that how he got IB
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>>157082522
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>>157082456
>Talking about the AAA as they flirt
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>>157082522
Lewd.
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>>157082576
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>>157082456
Mikoto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>Index
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>>157082652
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>>157082739
And that's all for the B/W illustrations. The afterword's next.
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>>157082739
the fuck is she holding?
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Please just end this serie already

its a bloated loli harem machines clogged with clones

I bet no one remembers half of the cast even
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>>157082365
>Aleister will remove magic by making the new generation unable to cast magic through literal proportion of IB
Considering Aleisters degeneracy I can see this
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>>157082828
Afterword 1/2.
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>>157082739
>This is not according to keikaku
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>>157082878
*propogation
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>>157082883
Afterword 2/2
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>>157082522
>>157082739
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>>157082858
It's a putty knife
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>>157082941
And this is the bit after that. That's all.
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>>157082876
I remember the good ones like alfar and Arlands, you just need to get better at immersing.
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>>157082979
Thanks
>>157082456
>>157082522
>>157082652
can you use phone camera on that blurry part?
sorry being so demanding
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>>157082941
NANDE KOREWA !!!! YAMETE KUDASAI KAMACHI SAMA !!!
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Sityl can't come any sooner with new spoiler texts. At least we're getting something new to talk about.

>>157082979
The Accelerator-Hamazura Tease? It was shorter than exxpected.
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>>157082884
>This is according to keikaku
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>>157082979
That last line is nothing but swearing. Classic Accelerator.
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>>157083180
Why is dumb shit like this funny

>select all mountains
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>>157083233
Also, Hamazura mentions Aneri there, as expected.
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>>157083266
I really hope Aneri somehow gets a robo body
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>>157083096
I'll try, hold on.
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>>157083352
Here.
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>>157083708
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>>157082365
I mean have you seen Aleister?
>>157082427 She knows it'd be a waste not to
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>>157083774
And, that's all.
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>>157082979
KUSOYARO
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>>157083862
The savior is here.
Can you translate the pages please?
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>>157083862
あああああああ
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>>157083862
Young stiyl is cute
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>>157083862
God and Savoir Stiyl is here
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>>157083862
Puberty hit Stiyl too hard.
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>>157083889
There are so many now
guess I'll start with the ones ITT
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>>157083981
Take your time
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>>157083981
>TakeYourTime.gif
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>>157083981
Be sure to start with the ones with the most Happening
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>>157082739
I don't know if it's my biribiri vision kicking in or something but I swear Touma feels cuter with every volume to me.
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>>157084233
Literally everything is Happening in this vol
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>>157084288
Suffering makes you cute
Look at BiriBiri, few vols of intense suffer and she's all girly with Misaki.
Suffering.exe
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>>157084316
Misaki and Misaka flirting isn't Happening
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>>157084288
You're simply waking up to the truth
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>>157084364
Is this why touma suddenly got way closer to othinus once he noticed the hell he went through were a parallel for Othinus' life?
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>>157082222
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>>157084547
please fucking dont
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>>157082377
>He and Tsuchimikado picked up Maika’s feet and lifted her. Though the wall was high, it measured around two people in height and the Christmas lights rope was barely needed. The maid-in-training grabbed the edge of the wall with both hands and pulled herself up with some struggle.
>Now on the top of the wall, she turned around and leaned forward, extending her hand and saying,
>”Hey Kamijou Touma, when we get there… well, I don’t know where we’re going, but I’ll contact you too, so be sure to “Accept”.”
>”I don’t really use SNS…”
>”Then this is your chance to start—“
>Once over the wall, he won’t be able to see Maika or Tsuchimikado very often. But that did not mean their bonds would be cut off. So Kamijou nodded, and the maid-in-training smiled slightly.
>It happened immediately after that.
>They hadn’t even started on Fran’s turn.

>BOOM!!
>First there was a low, ominous explosion that reverberated, but Kamijou was completely nonplussed as to what that extremely precise phenomenon signified.
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>>157084701
So it's just shaking in that picture and she's not being pierced? Or is that just the noise karma makes
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>>157084701
I don't understand what happened, a bomb blew off or something ?
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>>157084701
I-I'm sure she'll be fine.
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>>157082456
Best girls
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>>157084701
Waiting for everyone to die
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>>157084834
>Best girls bonding
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>>157084800
probably Border Patrol
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>>157084701
Well I guess that means Maika didn't mind too much that Tsuchimikado destroyed her dreams of becoming a maid
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>>157084985
She can still be his personal maid
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>>157084985
Onii-chan just asked her to run away with him to the middle of nowhere somewhere, she probably thought it'd end up in sex all day.
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>>157084701
so are they dead?
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>>157085257
Girls love the idea of eloping after all
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>>157085284
no
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>>157085284
I guess we won't know until Js06 starts on her translation. The page only shows that somebody or something obstructed their escape.
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Lolister will be on NT19 cover guaranteed.
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What is with those old super powerful wizards becoming lolis? Is this the new trend or something?
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>>157085586
If you had mystical powers that can break the fabric of space and time, wouldn't you use it to become a cute little girl?
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>>157085692

That should be the ultimate goal of all wizards.
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>>157084701
>Hey Kamijou Touma, when we get there…
Massive death flag.
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>>157085888
It's fine, enough of those can keep you safe.
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>>157085888

Good thing Tsuchi eats death flags for breakfast
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>>157085888

Maika is alive and well
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>>157084701
>Kamijou was completely nonplussed as to what that extremely precise phenomenon signified.

Poor Touma. He's gotten used to this shit.
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Can someone upload Chapter 117 of Index that came out today?
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>>157082456
>”Obviously I know it’s safe to put it in my mouth after watching you stuff your scheming guts.”
>However, she appeared not to notice the waitress at a nearby table who had gone bright red and allowed water to overflow from the glass she was pouring.
>”Getting back on topic— supposing there’s some sort of price attached to the AAA, if Misaka-san had already paid for it, that wouldn’t mean the risk will go away because you’ve stopped using it, now would it? Whether that turns out to be a material problem or a, er, kurse? related problem.”
>”Well, isn’t it still crazy to say that I should start using it at every chance I get? Just because I took an unknown tablet to keep myself awake, that shouldn’t mean I should keep taking more after I find out what’s in it.”
>”That’s not what I meant. You won’t know for sure whether it’s a side effect of using AAA or an after-effect of the kurse thing if you went to an ordinary hospital, would you? Then I think the only way you can reassure yourself is to analyze the AAA yourself. You can take a sample of a suspicious tablet or supplement to a suitable agency and that would be the end of it, but with this you don’t have an intermediary, so your only option is to do it yourself, no?”
>”…well yes, but.”
>Seeing Mikoto pout like a sulky child, Shokuhou sitting next to her heaved a big sigh.
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>>157086873

Why are they so much better together than with Touma?
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>>157086873

poor Kuroko.
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>>157086968
because they can actual human beings around each other and have good chemistry
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>>157086873
I guess Misaki was teasing and didn't expect Misaka to take the bait.

Somebody meme that Misaki is Misaka's new bestfriend.
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>>157087030

She has Drills now so it's okay.
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>>157087052
be*
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>>157086873
> isn’t it still crazy to say that I should start using it at every chance I get?
That's a bad idea
> Then I think the only way you can reassure yourself is to analyze the AAA yourself.
That's an even worse idea
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>>157086873
That waitress understands what's going on
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>>157087102
>implying Drills isn't hankering for that ghost pussy instead
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>>157087052

They really do. Meanwhile Mikoto is a dumb tsundere around Touma and Misaki's connection with him is forced as fuck.
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>>157086873
>There is no telling if this will stop when you stop so just keep doing it

>misaka figuring out AAA without any magical knowledge

So much ignorance in this conversation
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>>157086873
>kurse
She means curse right?
Misaki's use of words is quite, unique.
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>>157086873
Ahaha, oh god this is a bad idea
This is like someone giving Misaki the advice of reading Index's mind
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>>157087072
But anon, they were developing to be best friends from the beginning
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>>157086873
Oh boy this can't end well. Good job Misaki, you're gonna kill your friend.
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>>157087207
>inb4 Aleister does exactly that just for the giggles next volume
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>>157087128
No it's a great idea. Tampering with Alesiter's toys will make her delve into much deeper shit.
meaning more suffering and hopefully some development.
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>>157086873
Misaka is going to be die at this rate because of Misaki jesus christ
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>>157087186
They don't know shit about magic after all.

>>157087201
What did you mistranslate this time?
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>>157086873
>Touma was just the silly first crush
>Misaki is the true love

I can almost hear the screams from thousands of haremfags throats.
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>>157086873

I wonder if Kamachi could turn back time would he replace Kuroko with Misaki from the start?
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>>157087392
You're baiting pretty hard here m8
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>>157087186
You won't expect her to go to a library and open the next magic book she sees and go "Oh right, that is the right Scientific answer to my problem" now do you do?
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>>157087419

Why? Kuroko is one of the main reasons why Railgun S1 was so popular.
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>>157087197
She says it in katakana, like she doesn't know what it means.
呪詛 is curse, but Misaki says ジュソ so I changed the spelling.

Wait a minute
>ジュソ
>juso
>JEW-so
OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

>>157087376
Phrasing/wording is awkward or redundant in some places.
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>>157087480
Railgun S1 also attracted the worst of the fanbase, so there's no loss here.
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>yfw Misaka analyzes AAA completely with no training
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>inb4 Mikoto figures out magic by herself
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>>157087496
What now?
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>>157087566
absolute bullshit and asspull if that happens
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>>157086558
Looks like no one here owns one
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>>157087540
>>157087566
I can see Kamachi actually purposely doing this just to make her get screwed over even harder in the end.
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>>157087566
Hopefully
>then she sees the answer to her power lust and runs to gain more knowledge about everything related to magic

I could see this happening
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>>157087619
next thing you know it She becomes a fucking vegetable because of dicking around with AAA
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>>157087566
No way, Misaka's too retarded when it comes to magic for that to happen

Well that or all the magical shit she's experienced is dammed up and she'll just suddenly put all the pieces together one day while smashing her head on the wall
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>>157087566
>>157087602
She built her own AAA with just the school materials and being with the original for like a day despite mikoto never being a mech builder. I wouldn't put it past kamachi to have her figure this out without knowing shit.
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>>157087566
Only if she does it in a scientific way, but that would probably mean getting magician test subjects
>inb4 she gets meme'd by Yuiitsu and does that with no qualms
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>>157084288
>Touma becomes into a cute loli at the end of To aru no Revelations
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>>157087767
Making a mech and learning magic are 2 total different things
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>the curse won't be brought up again guys
>he dropped the plotline
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>>157087857
>>157087767
>Saten learned to pilot a mech in a single day
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No matter all the terrible things Aleister has done, everything will be excused because he/she is now a loli.
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>>157087857
I'm not discounting magic but making a super mech like AAA is no small feat especially since she was able to locate and replace the magic portions.
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>STUDY is protecting Aiwass' core
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>>157087879
Still not confirmed to mean anything. At the moment it is just confusion to throw mikoto off on the cause of her nosebleeds. However we the reader know why it is happening and we saw it happen before the curse.
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>>157086873
Can't wait for the curse and AAA to fry her brain or make her suffer more
Kamachi better not drop this
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>>157087973
She needs some spanking as punishment
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>>157087857
Not him but for all we know she might manage it in an unorthodox way, she'll see it as a new kind of """"science"""" and just obsessively plow through the material. Kamachi conveniently paints her as a damn prodigy even without the Level 5 stuff.
>build mecha
>speaks several languages
>plays violin
>pilots jet
>does fine at Tokiwadai despite not studying at all and fucking around with the slut brigade

Of course her crash course through magic will have gaping holes in knowledge, some parts not properly understood, and that'll come back to bite her in the ass.
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>Aleister turned into a cute middle school girl
>Othinus turned into a cute fairy
>Fiamma has his fucking arm ripped off and is made into Ollerus' stooge

Poor Fiamma.
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>>157082238
She's #6
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>>157088170
And when you think about it, Fiamma had the shortest time of glory for a main villain. Acqua and IT knocked him down a few notches really quickly. Kamachi must not like him.
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>>157088240
To be fair you can't really do an extended fight with perfect Fiamma. He had to be stopped immediately or Touma would be dead and that's it. Othinus brought him back after each death and looks like Crowley doesn't even fight Touma much.
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Reminder that Touma could have just told Mikoto why the AAA was bad for her
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>>157082238

Shes one of the 1 billion Aleister Crowleys. Only makes sense that he'd keep one of himself near Touma at all times.
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>>157088358
Well, this isn't shonen.
And Touma isn't Ichigo or your typical shonen character.
So no problem with that for me
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>>157088521
What if it's multiple of the same body?
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>>157088500
Oh yeah, he actually hesitated on telling her what was causing her pain. Way to be a great friend Touma!!
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>>157088617
Maybe he was shocked that was magic?
Or Touma might be an actual Idiot.
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>>157088500
I don't understand why he hasn't
>goes to tell her it is bad for her
>curse strikes
>finds out the curse wasn't AAA
The curse didn't change the situation at hand but somehow I guess he thought it best not to tell her.
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>>157088500
He's finally decided to go all out on his decision about using all the resources he has when it comes to saving people, and Biribiri with the AAA is an hell of a resource

The fact that she's being driven insane and suffering internal bleeding is an issue he can deal with in another volume
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>>157088706
If it's a curse, Touma can just use Imagine Breaker and he wouldn't have to explain himself. Problem is Misaka's pretty persistent in using the AAA and and the curse will still come back. Touma really needs to explain to her how dangerous her situation is.
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>>157088617
>Sees her nose bleeding
>asks repeatedly if she's ok
>watches her getting screwed by a curse
>doesn't tell her the cause
But Touma, you were so fucking concerned about her in NT16-17 and saw what that shit did to her. I guess he threw the usual "she's a strong level 5 and seems to be ok after staying in frog hospital". What a way to switch from thinking about her every few paragraph to this
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>>157088817
Sounds like he won't have any time until it's too late now. I bet you Aleister sends him off to do whatever in NT19 without even letting the guy take a nap
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>>157088767
I guess he went from "protecting her and the world around her" to just the world around her.
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>>157088869
He can sleep in the plane going to England
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>>157088869
Which is why he should have explained things to her when he had the chance last volume. But noooo, he just went home more worried about the state of his dorm room and the hunger of Index.
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>>157088964
Kamijou 'Promise Breaker" Touma
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>>157088966
>implying there won't be more terrorists
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>>157088966
Nah, it'll be hijacked by terrorists again, just because.
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>>157089035
>>157089017
its going to be hijacked by Demon terrorists
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>>157089017
>>157089035
That's what Crowloli's for
He sleeps, while Index enjoys some beef and fish
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>>157089035
It'll be hijacked by Rakko
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>>157088869
>Lolister tells him he needs to deal with Choronzon before she destroys the city and kills all his friends the ones he has left
>Gives him a plane ticket, slaps a silver star on his hoodie, and rushes him out the door
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>>157088972
anon you seem mad
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>>157088817
The curse is already beneath her skin. Touma used IB but it didn't stop it. Thing is now internal and screwing her up from the inside.
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How much of power upgrade are we expecting from Misaka? Can we see her actually become the actual strongest #3 level 5 esper?
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>>157089076
>Touma gets a star on his hoodie
>when they return to England Birdway freaks the fuck out when she sees the two of them with that star
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>>157089113
Easy solution, cut her open and then shove his hand inside
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>Misaka has literally the mark of the Beast
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>>157089166
>>157089076
what does the star even mean?
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>>157089147
>Hybrid magic and science user
I would root for this even when it's so illogical
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>>157089169
So...Fist her?
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>>157089204
>silver star
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>>157089169
or just fist her
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>>157089111
Irritated more like. But eh, whatever floats Kamachi's boat to create more drama.
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>>157089169
As if Touma will cut open the one he won't touch, punch, or have a serious fight with.
Think of a better solution anon
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>>157089017
>>157089035
>there will be more terrorist again
>he will fight something supernatural again
>He will need to go to Russia again for some reason
>he will die again at the end of the series
>A new series will start again leaving his fate ambiguous
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What was the name of the curse she got hit with? Something like "i supply electricity for thy death" or something right?
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>>157089281

>>157089221
>>157089240
I'm pretty sure she would love this solution.
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>>157089204
That he's a CrowleyBoy now
The fact that this also makes him a target for all of the churches, and Golden Style cabals is but a small price
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>>157089321
oops meant
>>157089250
>>157089221
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>>157089286
No name, just a lightning curse crowley snagged and redirected toward her. It wasn't his own curse and we don't know the full effects.
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>>157089321
>>157089366
Touma just fist her her right in the pussy
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>>157089384
Wasn't his own curse but he modified it for his own purpose.
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>>157089321
He'd probably just shove his fingers down her throat like with Index. Whether or not that still flips a switch in her is up in the air.
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>>157082522
>”(—) Index, Othinus, and Maika are gone, are they all right!? Did they disappear or am I the one who’s wandering? It’s not like imagining something weird makes it materialize here, who does this fluffy world belong to!?”
>”The world is simply a world. It belongs to no one.”
>”Come on!! I don’t have time for that kind of zen Q&A!!”
>”Naturally it does not belong to Aleister Crowley either.”
>”?”
>Though the theoretical expressions offered him no detailed answer, for some reason that phrase tugged at Kamijou’s mind.
>”So, what’s, eh? But this is his base called the “Windowless Building”…”
>”Aleister Crowley has no wish to move past the trauma that he himself has perfectly reenacted. And he would not mind if he failed and was set back. Therefore the garden he created is beyond his control. My speaking to you is part of that.”
>It was a convoluted explanation, but the gist is that he watches the trauma of his own making and thrashes around? Like a trypanophobic human willingly crawling into an Iron Maiden…
>”What does this Aleister guy want to do…?”

Fapping to Moina made me hungry so taking a dinner break
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>>157089620
Aleister is truly a madman.
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>>157082522
>Onee-san type
>Touma
EXPLAIN, NOW.
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>>157082739
I wish we got the text right before or after this
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>>157089620
>”(—) Index, Othinus, and Maika are gone, are they all right!?
seems like they ended up getting lost for some reason
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>>157089620
>fluffy world
Or hazy world I guess
>>157089721
>Index
Got her right here
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>>157089721
We don't know how they got to that point, so there might've been some defense mechanism for the WB.
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>>157089620
>Aleister doesn't even controls his own building
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>>157089759
I swear to god if WB has a fucking maze Ill laugh
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>>157089620
This confirms that Maika isn't dead.Unless she dies later, that is.
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>>157089620
So Aleister is reliving his trauma? How? By failing over and over again?
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>>157089819

Of course not. Believe in the memes.
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>>157089814
The preview even said it was a place that embodied the mind of its owner. Aleister is also the most complex and insane person on the planet, so the building must follow that rule too
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>>157089796
That Red Mage comic gets more relevant with each spoiler
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>>157089914
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>>157082238
Touma's childhood friend. She hangs around him alot because she just wants him to remember her. But he never does, and never will.
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>>157089968
Heh.
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So what was the explanation as to how he got to Fiamma again? It sounds like the circumstances were different than when he left the WB in NT17.
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>>157090067
He faxed himself there.
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>>157089620
I want to live in WB. A maze of the mind of the madman Alesiter is to die for.
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>>157089968
Goddamn, that is too accurate to what is happening
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>>157090097
So he left a spare body back in the tube and sent his main one there?
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>>157089968
Lost it.

I miss 8-bit Theater.
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>>157090156
One of the pages Stiyl translated yesterday or the day before explains it.
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>>157089620
It's notable touma doesn't ask about tsuchimikado. Is he already dead?
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>>157090417
He'd be going nuclear if he was ded
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>>157090417
well Touma didn't mention Fran either Im guessing they had to split up because something happened and they separated into 2 groups
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>>157090417
Touma would be unleashing dragons If Tsuchi died.
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>>157090481
Fair point
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>>157090561
>Dragons
Probably never
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>>157090481
>Tsuchimikado chooses to save Fran over his imouto
The great cuckening begins?
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>>157090659
I wouldnt blame him. Fran is a top tier girl.
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>>157090417
>>157090463
>>157090481
>>157090561
The sentence begins on the preceding page, so it's possible Tsuchimikado was already mentioned. "Index" is cut off there, you can see the first letter on p118 is ス and since Othinus(オティヌス)is mentioned later in the sentence, the only other character in this group whose name ends with ス is Index (インデックス).
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>>157090723
>forgot to take off trip
fuck
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>>157090785
Yes, yeees, we know you shame now, stiyl magnus. You'll translating our shit for years to come. That is, unless you want a certain flat chest with silver hair to find that you forgot to take off your tripcode. Your ass belongs to us now, Stiyl.
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Misaki "I tell my only friend to kill herself" Shokuhou
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>>157084701
>>157089620

Nice job, Maika.
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>>157091257
well at least now she has another reason for suicide
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DED just like Maika
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>>157089968
>ltr
Why?
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>>157091936
huh?
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>>157091936
I'm not sure what you're trying to say
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>>157092016
>>157092020
Comics should be rtl.
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>>157092204
>rtl
That's not from a manga
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>>157092204

Its an edit of 8 bit theatre.
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>>157092285
You can even see the original under it I'm not sure how he missed that
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Who's willing to bet Misaki is subtly trying to push Mikoto towards where Aleister wants her to be (dead, probably) probably because Aleister wants her to. In speaking of reasons why he would want Mikoto dead, I wonder if AAA has something to do with Aiwass's core?
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>>157092708
Misaki's not that heartless
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>>157092708
It's more likely that Aleister is using Archetype Controller on her
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>>157092766
That's what I was implying
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>>157092798
You only said because Aleister wants her to
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>>157092763
That doesn't matter if Aleister is using Archetype Controller on her or some other method of control that is greater than her
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>>157092708
AAA and the curse is bond to relate to something later on since he specifically cursed her not killed her instantly as he usually do with any hindrance to his plans

>yft he wanted her to touch AAA from the start to touch magic
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>>157092860
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>>157092849
And? If Aleister wanted her do something she probably wouldn't do on her own its far more likely hed use Archetype Controller or something like it on her rather than bribe her/ask her. Context.
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>>157092893
are*
It's 5am. Are we getting anything translated soon or should I sleep?
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>>157092708
Would Kamachi dare kill off Misaka in the main series? (not counting crossovers like virual on). I think if he were to do it it'd be by the end of the series.
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>>157092960
No that's a leap in logic on your part. the way you phrased it sounded much more like we suspect from GitD, Yuitsu or the like, under orders from Aleister and that's why they do what he wants. If you want to say she's being controlled then say so.
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>>157093107
Her dying doesn't need to be the result. Kamachi would rather keep her alive in some unknown state than kill her, or rather for almost any other character too.
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>>157092980
Sleep dude, translations will keep.
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>>157093107
I really can't see Kamachi killing off main characters permanently like that. Unless I'm forgetting someone, I'm pretty sure the only characters that died and weren't brought back in his other series were all villains too. Not counting deaths in flashbacks.
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>>157093123
It's not a leap in logic when you consider how Aleister operates, not to mention Misaki probably wouldn't go "okay cool" in the unlikely event he did show up in her room and say "Make Mikoto do something dangerous. I'll reward you if you do/punish you if you dont" Use your brain
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>>157093189
That's probably a correct assumption. He seems reluctant to kill off even minor characters so it's no surprise that he'd probably let her live and simply make her suffer. Besides i feel like we've seen enough of her dying (by her i mean the clones Accel killed). Even though they're not her its hard to see it as not her dying, know what i mean?
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>>157093460
Aleister literally does have people he just gives orders to and listen to him, and clearly I thought that was odd that you would consider her one of them and told you as much. Stop deflecting over a minor issue and just put all the details in your theory down next time.
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>>157093546
>He seems reluctant to kill off even minor characters
There's plenty of minor characters who die, it's only when you survive your volume that it gets rarer.
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>>157093546
That and her dying is a pretty cheap way to write in some shock value.
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>>157093189
Her being stuck on the Network, put in a Rensa like robot, or in a coma (think: anything that's "technically not gone forever but not here either) might as well be dead
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>>157093681
>coma
The reason why I can't see this is because that would be a detriment if/when Railgun gets that far.
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>>157093107
He seems very fond of the character and something tells me that whatever story Kamachi wants to tell, killing off Misaka or even fucking her up permanently at the end is not in the plans.
IIRC there was that interview long ago where he mentioned he's reluctant to get her involved in fights because she doesn't take losing well or something.
If there's a main character I see him killing off it would be Accelerator. In a really spectacular way too, going out with a bang.
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>>157093733
That's a pretty big if. If a coma happens it still might not be for another volume or 2, which is about 6 months to a year. Railgun has a long way to go. It's just now passing the Index anime. Not to mention it could end.
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>>157093864
>it's just now passing the Index anime
It's after Battle Royale now
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>>157093864
The real problem is if they put Mikoto in a coma for a week she won't be in the next 30 volumes
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>>157093734
While I think it's possible and probably likely he will let them both live, I feel like if he does need to kill off a main character, it'll be between Mikoto and Accelerator.
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Now that I think about it, is NT19 also gonna take place in this single day? There's no way NT will even last til Christmas at this rate
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>>157093930
There might not be 30 volumes
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>>157093974
The novel ends with Touma being blown out of the building, so yeah, probably.
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>>157093969
What about Hamazura? Luck will take you do far.
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I know all of this is just idle speculation but do some of you people really want Mikoto to die or go into a coma, etc? It's one thing to not like her and another to put her away like that. Unless you want her to get fucked up so she can endure and grow and be important like the 3 MCs but for narrative purposes I think she can still be conscious and kicking as developments happen.

Besides such a major character death should happen right around the middle of the series so the readers can get over the shock and take it in as the consequences continue to influence the story and characters all the way to the end. If a big protagonist is going to die they better drop dead within the next couple volumes, and that's assuming Index continues for another 8 years at least.

This is also a moot point but the heartbreak with the fans would be of considerable proportions. Apart from the diehard waifufags the majority of people will miss her I think. /a/'s threads don't always reflect how Japan perceives the series 100% and I think Kamachi can't possibly be that cruel even if he likes to pull the rug out once in a while.
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>>157094287
If Hamazura was gonna die it would've been in WW3. So if someone from their group has to go, it'd be Mugino I think
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So really Choronzon has to be put down (there may be some Accelerator drama in there - there's several little extras he could bring), and then Aleister has to fail at/suceed in bringing in the new Aeon and that'd be a great wrap up. Not that he couldn't continue if he wanted
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>>157093107
He will kill her then bring her back again.
You heard it here first everyone.
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>>157094357
Choronzon has to be defeated, but Aleister actually wants to lose to it. But even if it gets taken out, its still a load off his shoulders.

And then in regards to the Aeon, if he succeeds that can't be the finale because I guarantee either him or Aiwass will assume a position as God.
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Aleister will put Misaka on a trolley
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>>157093546
Seeing all of these clones dying wearing her face.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
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>>157094312
"put her away" is kind of what I'd like honestly. I'm interested in where this development with her will go, but before that she was in every volume it felt like even when she didn't belong and I'd just like a break so we can get to other characters already
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>>157094384
> Killing her just makes her stronger
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Man stiyl this one long ass dinner
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Which Level 5 could be killed off for real with the greatest emotional impact but least impact on the overall plot?
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>>157094545
Misaki
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>>157093546
>>157094490
>clones
Anon?
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>>157094545
Mikoto
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>>157094504
>before that she was in every volume it felt like even when she didn't belong
But why put her away just when she's starting to actually belong in the narrative?
>so we can get to other characters already
If you mean the old gang (Kanzaki, Orsola, etc) I'm not sure how they could be brought back into the fold at this stage.
>get excited when Fiamma shows up in NT
>nerfed immediately
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>>157094534
Pretty sure he's ditching us for the night
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>>157094545
Either Mugino for Hamazura, or Misaki for Touma.

Accelerator and Mikoto would be the biggest on the plot, Gunha we need more on for either, and Kakine is in a weird place among the level 5's.
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>>157094613
And we still know next to nothing about Aihana Etsu.
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>>157094599
Fiamma was nerfed in OT
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>>157094545
Misaka, and Misaki
Misaki would have extra impact if they let Touma be in the scene and just at that moment have his brain damage fixed as its happening
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>>157093546
Noukan, Frenda, Terra, Bersi, Goggles, Rakko, Kuribot, and tons of people from the dark side groups all disagree.
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>>157094638
It'd be interesting if he was the one guarding Aiwass' core.
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>>157094611
Nah I'll do two more pages at least, can't finish them all though because I have something important tomorrow
Dinner took long because I was entertaining my cousin
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>>157094312
I'm down for extreme suffering and figurative death or loop deaths like Touma, better yet she committing suicide since she failed to do twice(Accel & level 6shift) . Just give her suffer and let her grow.

And suffer.

A lot

My sadist side is just going out of control now it's 6am.
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>>157094599
Because it could easily be a consequence of her development and give others a chance. Not to mention if she's going to be in so many volumes I would have much rather she actually belonged in the narrative from the start and had that much presence, rather than only get it later.

When I say other characters I mean literally anyone else. Hell use the time to make Index do something besides bitch at Touma.
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>>157094737
Calm down Choronzon
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>>157094737
wew
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>>157094599
>nerfed immediately
He was nerfed the moment holy right broke in 22 losing his physical arm made it even worse. Besides has ONLY fought magic gods in NT and there is no winning in that scenario.
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>>157094703
Kuribot isn't dead yet and Rakko survived in Railgun so I wouldn't count her yet
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>>157094794
He could have lost less badly, though.
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>>157094818
Well that High Priest scene was definitely a gag
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>>157094763
I can't. Suffer.exe is not responding.
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>>157094736
Family always comes first, my respect Stiyl.
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>>157094856
Get back to the abyss you god damned abomination.
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>>157094818
He and Ollerus stalemated Othinus off screen. He staked Othinus and was the reason her powers fucked up. The HP thing is the only real hard loss and nobody except magic gods, and crowley takes multiple hits from a magic god.
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>>157094613
>Hamazura
>Giving an actual shit about Mugino

He probably wouldn't hesitate to kill her himself if she ever stepped out of line again and did something unforgivable. She even said herself that she's still a shit person, but doesn't care as long as he forgives her. I can see her receiving a tragic ending as "karma".
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>>157094945
He's bullshitting his way past logic to try and maintain a normal life, so even if it's half assed, he'd care.
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>>157094703
Frenda died in the volume she was introduced, it wasn't until Railgun that she actually got popular.
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>>157094736
Aww that's sweet.
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>>157094931
Did they though or was Othinus fucking around? It kind of seemed like the latter when she eventually said fuck it she was bored and pulled the lance out herself
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>>157095029
Same with Bersi and Goggles, for that matter. (Though Bersi came back as a zombie, basically.)
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>>157094945
>“I mean, being normal is a hell of a thing.” He breathed out. “Just walking along the normal rails like normal is pretty damn amazing. People get derailed by the smallest pushes from the side. After all the stupid crap I did out on the streets at night, I know that all too well. And Mugino and Takitsubo were lurking in the shadows beyond that, so they were even worse. I’m probably the worst kind of person for acting so smug after taking someone else’s lifestyle away from them, but I don’t want to turn out like that and, if they start heading back in that direction, I’ll do whatever it takes to stop them. Isn’t that really important?”

Don't be delusional, he has a bit more edge to him than Touma because of his past as a thug, but he still has that same heart of gold deep within
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>>157095065
It's a pro-Frenda shitposter. Whether they actually like Frenda or not is irrelevant. They are looking to sling shit
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>>157094989
Can a normal life really include living with a woman who tried to murder you and your girlfriend just a month prior? In real life there's something called "PTSD".
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>>157082576
>(—) knew very well, but what could the world outside have done to this little garden.
>”To assist with the childbirth, and to provide support for the unstable mother and child with every fibre of his being, Aleister had paused his research of magic. To make up for the lost time, he left the stabilized mother and child and embarked on a journey to find an enormous mountain. It had a “certain purpose”, but that aside–
>There was one answer.

>”What he learned of at the end was his young daughter’s almost unnaturally sudden death by illness. The “human” who had wished for his daughter’s happiness more than any other in the world, and allegedly given her a name so long it took an effort to call her once… was not even allowed to return to witness his beloved daughter’s moment of death.”

>That began the fall.
>It was more than enough of a trigger for one man to curse the fate of the world.
Bruh
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>>157095044
The stalemate was NT4
They lost NT8 the moment she went "getting staked was my backup plan".
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>>157095227
That's why I said he's bullshitting his way past logic. Most people wouldn't be as accepting as him, but he took into account the conditions that everything in the dark side led to, even if it's not like she wasn't responsible for some of it. Plus I'd attribute some of the shit he'd seen in WW3 lessened some PTSD of OT15/19, considering that was nothing compared to th war.
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>>157086558
This one? Not sure if these are all the pages.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5109951182
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>>157095351
Do you mean the scene where Othinus wonders if it's worth it and then decides fuck it? I always assumed she just fucked up a spell and left but I guess that counts.
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>>157095350
Bruuh
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>>157095350
>death by illness
>curse the fate of the world.
Is he really blaming the gods because the most current phase of the world happen to be one where his daughter died?
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>>157095350
Poor papa Alesiter
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>>157095350
Aleister just wanted to be a good daddy ;-;
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>>157095350
>on a journey to find an enormous mountain.
I fucking love you for including this Kamachi
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>>157095350
>and allegedly given her a name so long it took an effort to call her once…
That's putting it rather lightly
And well, he really shouldn't have went on that trip, even if she had stabilized, but ah well, he meant well, even if Crowley is an eternal fuckup
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>>157095350
> While Rose and Lilith returned to Europe, Crowley headed to Shanghai to meet old friend Elaine Simpson, who was fascinated by The Book of the Law; together they performed rituals in an attempt to contact Aiwass. Crowley then sailed to Japan and Canada, before continuing to New York City, where he unsuccessfully solicited support for a second expedition up Kangchenjunga.[70] Upon arrival in Britain, Crowley learned that his daughter Lilith had died of typhoid in Rangoon, something he later blamed on Rose's increasing alcoholism. Under emotional distress, his health began to suffer, and he underwent a series of surgical operations.[71] He began short-lived romances with actress Vera "Lola" Neville (née Snepp)[72] and author Ada Leverson,[73] while Rose gave birth to Crowley's second daughter, Lola Zaza, in February 1907.[74]
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>>157095350
>go out to help your new family
>only to not even see your firstborn die due to magic gods nonchalantly fucking around
>don't even get a sorry or get acknowledged by them
>then get mocked by them and get called silly
>then your "friend" summons a fucking demon to curse your life even further because he doesn't like what you're doing
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>>157095350
Bruh indeed.

>Made time to be with his family
>Daughter dies from sudden illness
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>>157095350
>The “human” who had wished for his daughter’s happiness more than any other in the world, and allegedly given her a name so long it took an effort to call her once… was not even allowed to return to witness his beloved daughter’s moment of death.
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>>157095350
Then again if Index is the dead girl. Why is she still alive? Would he still seek revenge if she is alive and literally right in front of him(as if her resemblance to him isn't enough). Or he still wants to do no matter what and fuck magic over because why not.
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>>157095547
High Priest's comments on the tearstain in his journal seem a lot more dickish now even if he did eventually apologize
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>>157095491
>On Aleister's only real success in life he comes back to find his daughter dead
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>>157095566
Index is probably a recreation of her made by magic
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>>157095491
Speaking of the mountain
> They eventually mutinied against Crowley's control, with the other climbers heading back down the mountain as nightfall approached despite Crowley's warnings that it was too dangerous. Subsequently, Pache and several porters were killed in an accident, something for which Crowley was widely blamed by the mountaineering community.
It was their own fucking fault for not listening to his warnings.
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So Aleister is the fallen hero archetype? That's always the best villain.
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>>157095387
Are incomplete.
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>>157094384
Nah I'm pretty sure I said this already.
>Mikoto dies and comes back as Nuit
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>>157095566
She could very well just be a homunculus of Lilith, or something, in which case she's not his daughter, no matter what she was made from
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>>157095629
He was an established climber, one of the main things he was known for before the magic shit they just didn't want to listen.
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Aleister did nothing wrong
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>>157095698
Well, he might have done a couple things wrong, but he's a grieving father so I can't be mad at him. I wonder if Tabikage's threats resonated with him at all
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>>157095387
>All those Battle Royale silhouettes
Soon
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>>157095698
Reminder that he made Academy City, and supported inhumane experiments like Level 6 Shift
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>>157095651
But anon, that's what I meant
>Kill her and bring her back as Nuit
I just missed it because I still didn't sleep
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>>157095350
Should we feel sorry for Aleister now? When you care about others, you inevitably open yourself up to potential loss and heartbreak. "Muh ded daughter" is no reason to curse the world and ruin the lives of others for the sake of your grand plan.
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>>157095738
OH SHIT
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>>157095664
I think we are still missing something here. maybe Index is another one of his daughters not the dead one.
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>>157095765
He's getting rid of magic which he likely blames for her death, erroneously or not. He's not just ending the world he probably thinks he's going to end further tragedies like it as well, you can see that when he says he "stains his hands with magic"
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>>157095765
>When you care about others, you inevitably open yourself up to potential loss and heartbreak
Are you saying its his fault for seeking happiness? And as it was stated there, it was just the beginning. It's been hinted forever now, but he's got rotten luck and that was just the start of everything going wrong for him.
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I can see it now:

>illness caused by magic gods
>"we can remake her! we are sorry!"
>"Fuck this, fuck you! I'm destroying you bastards"
>friend summons Choronzon while the magic gods remake Lillith secretly to surprise him
>Choronzon takes control of Lola and has her use Surprise Gift Lillith to make a magic library
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>>157095821
Rotten Luck caused by possessing Imagine Breaker?
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>>157095838
jesus christ Magic gods are dicks
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>>157095838
That or he rejects Index for much the same reasons Othinus rejects the imitations of her world she makes "It's not real" and Laura grabs her after to parade around because she's an ass
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>Aleister and Kamisato were right
>Magic Gods really are fucking assholes
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>>157095914
Kamisato himself realized that while they're idiots, Magic Gods aren't evil though
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Just finished reading NT18 and holy fuck.
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>>157095905
>because she's an ass
well you can blame Choronzon for that one
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>>157095914
Magic Gods try their best but fuck up at crucial moments more likely. The offers they give Touma are good and HP saves Othinus for literally no reason.
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>>157095957
Nips have been saying it's one of the best in the series, what say you?
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>>157095957
Will you be starting translations soon? How was it?
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>>157095957
oh shit How was it?
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>>157095957
>even js06 is hype
I can feel the hype overtaking me
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>>157095957
Oh god yes, now this is the best sign, it's one thing to hear the Nips are supposedly raving, it's another to have the man himself react

So how true are all the spoilers running around?
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>>157095957
He´s here!!!
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>>157095350
MY BABY BLUEEEEEEE
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>>157095957
Can you confirmm who/if there are characters who died? Like Tsuchi, Maika and Othinius?
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At its peak yesterday NT18 was the 8th highest selling book in all of Japan, and the top LN.
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>>157095957
What the fuck happened with the Tsuchimikado siblings and Fran? The spoilers say basically nothing about them.
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>>157095957
is Maika killed?
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>>157095873
We don't know what happened yet. Either way.

>get blamed for an accidental death
>try to revive daughter
>lock yourself in a dimension with no sense of time or space to keep yourselves in check since you have no way knowing how your power will effect the world

What else could they have done. They magic god's motives have been nothing but preventing such things from happening again.
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>>157095957
GATTAI DAAAA!
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>>157096020
>So how true are all the spoilers running around?
He's likely not read the 10 threads we've had if he was avoiding spoilers
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>yfw the illness Lillith had prevented her from holding down food

>part of her death was related to starving/being malnourished

>"I'm h-hungry"

;-;
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>>157096034
>Index starts selling big again
>Dengeki decides that a new anime should be saved for when things start to dip
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>>157095957
what happened with Aiwass
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>>157095957
Holy fuck why? enlighten us
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>>157087540
It isn't that farfetched, Touma starts analyzing magic shit on his own by the time World War III starts rolling in, and by NT he tells Index what to do.
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>>157096034
Holy shit really? Nice
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>>157096100
No way, I absolutely refuse to believe Kamachi can pull that twist
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>>157096108
That would be a really dick move. Miki needs to die if they do that.
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>>157095957
>even jsloli is speechless
Yet another good sign.
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>>157095957
>holy fuck.
How much in the Kamachi scale is NT18?
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>>157096127
Touma makes educated guesses
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>>157096100
>Lilith last words are "I'm hungry"
PLEASE do this Kamachi
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>>157095957
Is Kamachi in his A-game?
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>>157096190
How old was Lilith when she died?
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>>157096100
>Index only eats an inhumane amount of food because of yet another cruel prank from Chronozon
I'd want to end magic too honestly
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>>157095957
NT9 tier?
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>>157095957
6:38am
was going to sleep
>The lord of translation is here
Well, better grab something to eat
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>>157096214
If it's the same as her real life counterpart, 2.
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>>157096190
She died at age two, that's a bit too young to start speaking
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>>157095350
Why do magnificent villains have to have such disgustingly human motivations? Seriously, the greatest magician, the man who invented espers and who can bomb the fuck out of any other country did it all because he lost a child? Kids dying was just life in the 1900s.
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>>157096034
REVIVAL
OF
INDEX
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
We just need season 3 and we could be back to 400k plus sales
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>>157096234
His first kid bruh. He's an excited father.
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>>157095975
I haven't really had time to process it, but it was certainly a hell of a volume.

>>157095997
>Will you be starting translations soon?
Probably not until the weekend

>>157096020
This: >>157096096

>>157096072
Everyone's alive (aside from flashback characters). And Fran's butt is a main character again.
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>>157096190
>it was the first time she'd asked for food in days

>her mom makes her favorite

>dies before she gets to eat it
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>>157095957
Did the vol say who is the dead daughter?
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>>157096294
>Fran's butt is a main character again
Fuck yes
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>>157096234
First kid and wasnt even there to see his Daughter death I would be pretty fucking angry too If I was in his shoes
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>>157096294
>And Fran's butt is a main character again.
I love you, Kamachi
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>>157096234
It was just the start, dude, and the whole point of the novel was that Crowley is a human, no matter how cruel and magnificent his plans may seem to outsider eyes, at the end of the day everything he did and does is from him acting as a man
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Don't even fucking joke like that, I'm glad that NT18 is amazing but if the increased amount of sales mean no Index S3 that's a fucked play on Dengeki's part.
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>>157096294
More Fran butt? No problems here.
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>>157096294
>Fran's butt is a main character again
I should be annoyed considering the novel seems serious but I'm not
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>>157096294
>Fran's butt is a main character again
>Everyone's alive
NICE
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>>157096294
>And Fran's butt is a main character again.
Truly a sign that this is gonna be one of the greats
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>>157096294
Is Laura really his daughter
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>>157096232
Kids start speaking random words like dada or mama at 6 months and can get up to 4 word sentences at 2. "Hungry" isn't a stretch at least.
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>>157096357
Kamachi may be having an awakening as an assman, truly he's going to surpass his previous iterations.
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Someone go tell Tsuchianon he can stop fapping to Laura now, his sister is fine.
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>>157096294
>Fran's butt
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>>157095957
js06, a question, Laura is Alicia Liester Crowley's daughter?
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>>157096234
IRL Crowley got hit pretty hard by her death too, anon.
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>>157096294
Did Misaki and Mikoto really GATTAI?
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>people not understanding how devastating losing a child can be
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>>157082652
>There was no point in explaining with the Laws of Physics. If radar equipment had been permitted here, the waves would not have captured anything.
>A lethal weapon that directly slices into one’s cognition.
>An application of the technology that disseminates one’s personal meditation to others.
>There is a magic called spectral ankle sweep.
it says ketaguri which is a sumo move: a technique in which a wrestler kicks his opponent's ankle in order to force him down
>While the name lacks a sharp ring to it, it is basically connecting one’s body with another person’s body like an occult doll with a human and controlling their body by moving one’s own. Applying this principle would allow one to even enter their mind. To even force one’s weapon of choice and its power to the target’s mind with a gesture.
>”My foolish companion Mathers,”
>muttered the black cat witch.
>”If you did not bother with such trifles, if you had focused on your true enemy even as you shattered the sternum with that arrow, you may have survived.”
>SLASH!!
>The man lunged in front of Mathers, who had fallen back.
>The enormous sword, gripped with both hands, was swung down on the stole and sank its nonexistent blade deep, deep from Mathers’ shoulder to her torso.
>”Clay, more…?”
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Do not answer these questions, js06. We have to save some stuff for reveals.
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>>157096294
Did you like it?
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>>157096294
>And Fran's butt is a main character again.
Sasuga Kamachi
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>>157096491
Wait, I thought the black cat witch was Moina Mathers? There's a different Mathers?
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>>157096496
>Ordering someone on a anonymous imageboard
Just leave the thread bro
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>>157096536
Her husband, anon.
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>>157096536
*different female Mathers
Or did you mess up and it's the guy Mathers, Moina's husband?
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>>157093563
Not him, but you are the one who started arguing over a minor issue. Stop being so pedantic next time.
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>>157096536
That's probably her, what do you mean anon?
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>>157096552
It's a request.
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>>157096536
Mcgregor Mathers, Moina's Husband I presume.
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>>157096536
Moina had a husband anon
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>>157096575
>>157096582
>>157096587
> deep from Mathers’ shoulder to her torso.
> her
That was what confused me.
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>>157094545
Misaki, most likely. I doubt Kamachi will kill the level 5s, though. He did so much plot conveniences to keep them alive I would be surprised if he ever killed one.
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>>157096294
>Fran's butt
MUH
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I never really thought about it but all the Birdway we've gotten in NT was probably to establish a link between a recurring character like her, and Aleister through the cabal.
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>>157096294
Hey its my nigga js
Will you join my harem? I'll take good care of you
We have cake and ice cream

>>157096536
>>157096607
Japanese runes leave out nouns so maybe that was the husband, I don't know without context
It just said Mathers
In which case it would be "My foolish spouse"
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>>157096577
A very dumb request when you can just ignore or turn the other way from her spoilers? Not everyone has to be limited

>>157096491
What exactly did Mathers do again?
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>>157095350
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH HELP ME FATHER!
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>>157096100
No, fuck you. I refuse to believe this.
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>>157096700
DELETE THIS
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>>157096654
I think her cabal is a slightly different name but I can't be bothered to look it up to check
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Fran is the (late) Himegami? Yes?
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>>157096189
Then they are damn good guesses.
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I'm rooting for Aleister this arc.
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>FATHER! I'M HUNGRY!!
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>>157096684
Mathers is Moina's husband and Aleister's master if we're talking MAcgregor
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>>157096700
>AAHHHHHH HELP ME FATHER!
>ITS HAPPENING AGAIN!
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since js06 is here I guess my part is done
back to shitposting tomorrow
Night lads
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>>157096783
Her butt will keep her relevant
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>>157096234
They human is more fragile than you think.
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>>157096816
Good job, try to not get banned again.
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>>157096816
Good work Stiyl
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>>157096294
>Everyone's alive
DROPPED.
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>>157096816
You did good. I'll take over now
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>>157096234
Family is all.
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>>157096816
Thank you Stiyl
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>>157096878
Not Lilith
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>>157096816
Good work and Good night Stiyl
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>>157096780
Birdway's is Dawn Colored Sunlight, while Crowley was from the Golden Dawn, they're not the same organization, though Birdway and her group do use Golden Style magic
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>>157096491
>There is a magic called spectral ankle sweep.
>it says ketaguri which is a sumo move: a technique in which a wrestler kicks his opponent's ankle in order to force him down
You know, I would prefer the term Spectral Submission.
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Good to know Fran's butt is still alive.
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>>157096780
She's a member of the Golden Dawn, isn't she? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn
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>>157096816
Thaks dude
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>>157096878
>people need to die
This meme needs to be the thing to die.
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I can't believe Fran's butt is fucking dead
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>>157096934
Nah. Just call it Dark matter, it becomes exponentially powerful as a result due to some weird fuckery called idol theory.
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What's Imagine Breaker true identity?
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>>157096934
Sounds good to me.
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>>157096878
I mean Laura
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>>157096630
If Misaki really dies, the tragic part is that she wouldn't even be remembered, especially if Touma sees her die, and then the next day he would just go 'who?"
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>>157096981
A hand made out of D@RK MATTER
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>>157096654
>yfw Aleister takes over Dawn Colored Sunlight and bullies Birdway
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>>157096989
Laura's not alive. Her consciousness is trapped in there with Choronzon, but her body is long dead.
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Bare witness the wings made of the truly superior material.
You're all just jealous of him. You can't have is number 1 power called dark matter
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>>157097027
This is both plausible and desirable.
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>>157097030
Where is this stated?
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>>157097073
Kakine-sama you are truly number 1
how can I ever recover?
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So what exactly is the correct spelling for Choronzon? Google is saying that's what Aleister in real life spelled it as, but 2ch has been spelling Coronzon, in English.
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>>157097030
So you're telling me those voluptuous curves are an illusion? Or simply suspended in time like cryogenic preservation?

By the way is there any info on Choronzon that explains why it/Laura likes bathtubs?
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>>157097125
The h is silent. Go with Crowley's authentic spelling.
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>>157097125
333
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>>157097030
>yfw Choronzon/Laura's death plays exactly like how it does in Accel, content and relieved
>instead of some chinese emperor dagger, the dagger used is Imagine Breaker
>yfw Accel manga is relevant and is a preview of what's going to happen
>yfw Laura/Choronzon walks around naked during her endgame then Choronzon will momentarily turn into an eldritch abomination
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>>157097125
just call it Daughter snatcher but in all seriousness I think its Choronzon and the nips are just being nips
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>>157097109
Pretty sure Stiyl confirmed a day or so ago, and I've seen anons on 2ch saying so as well, unless I somehow made that up and suck at reading moons even more than I normally do.
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>>157096816
Good job and good night bruh.
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>>157097030
That's my point, we have one sort of casualty
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So obviously we have to wait until the entire novel is translated but from the spoilers so far is this the best NT novel? For me this makes up for the garbage Kamisato arc in spades.
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>>157097207
Laura would've been dead for decades now, not really a casualty in this volume.
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More hunger plot twists:

>Lola remembers her father being upset over her sister dying

>She remembers her mother's unpleasant description of poor Lillith dying of a mysterious illness with various symptoms

>Her mother always suspected if the poor girl could have held down more food she might have survived or at least been more comfortable

>One of the last things Lola does before the demon kills her last bit of defiance is makes sure her big sister's homunculus at least will be able to eat more and enjoy things her real sister did not
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I believe this vol will be as good as NT9 or even surpass it
The hype is real
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>>157097193
Choronzon being in Laura seems to have been confirmed, but I don't think we have confirmation yet on the body being dead.
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>>157097241
>sort of
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>>157097235
It's subjective but it's going to be one of the best, if not one of the best across all of Raildex.

As someone who has preferred NT, if this arc keeps up this quality I'll be extremely pleased with how its played out.
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>>157097175
>endgame
>Choronzon is finally defeated but Crowley is dying
>Lola's spirit finds him and escorts him to the afterlife
>"Let's go, Father. Mother is waiting."
>Crowley and Laura dies smiling, holding each other's hands.
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Best years ahead for Raildex
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>>157097235
So far I'm sticking with NT9 but I could see it going past
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>>157097330
But her mother dumped him
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>>157096816

Arigatou
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>>157097235
I'm waiting until I read it to decide.
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>Aiwass wild ride coming next
I don't want to have to wait until October for fucks sake
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>>157097379
>implying she wasn't waiting for him to turn back to normal before their daughter died.
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>>157097432
Might be September
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>>157097453
God please be September
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>>157097432
At least you get to party hard with its release and S3's announcement
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>>157097453
>>157097473
>NT take a year long break
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>>157097453
It's gonna be October if Index 3 is a thing I would assume, especially because the MC trio will star in NT19.
>MC trio cover with Index 3 announcement
I'll be in fucking heaven
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Spoiler translation threads are the best threads
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>>157095350
>”What he learned of at the end was his young daughter’s almost unnaturally sudden death by illness. The “human” who had wished for his daughter’s happiness more than any other in the world, and allegedly given her a name so long it took an effort to call her once… was not even allowed to return to witness his beloved daughter’s moment of death.”
God is such a faggot, holy shit.
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>>157097619
>Aleister gets binded to a chair after NT
>shoots down Heaven in part 3
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>>157096294
>Everyone's alive
wtf. i was promised blood.
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>>157097729
those were fake spoilers anon
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>>157097379
this was Kamachi Kazuma, not some cheapy soap opera
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So at the end, is everyone unconscious except for Touma, who witnesses the longest-running family feud in history?
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>>157097666
Isn't that pretty much what he's been doing? Stuck in a pisstube, trying to crush the gods (magic). checked
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>>157097828
Technically God has a longer running family feud
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>>157097729
>implying non-villain main characters die in Blood Sign outside of flashbacks either
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Now I'm interested to see what the sales numbers will be, will it still have the ennui of the last few novels or maybe we'll be back to WW3 numbers now
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>>157097453
>>157097473
It's October. Kamachi's taking a break on July
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>>157097729
I really must say that Kyousuke is the dullest looking protagonist Kamachi has ever made, to the point that I don't even feel like reading the novels
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>>157097860
>WW3 numbers
That's impossible without an anime. It'll probably be a bit higher than the last few volumes, but word can only spread so fast to old readers through the internet. The anime is the way to bring their eyes back to it.
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>>157097860
We're definitely not getting anywhere near WW3 sales again. At least not without a S3 airing.
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>>157097916
>Kyousuke is the dullest looking protagonist Kamachi has ever made
He suffers from Ikawa's sameface-mc disease.
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>>157097919
>>157097930
different anon here but what were WW3 numbers?
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>the Aleister memes were the first step in bringing about the return of Raildex
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>>157097878
HO usually takes longer to be released than his other series though. Wouldn't be the first time we'd get two Index volumes inbetween the HO ones.
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>>157097916
He's a pretty enjoyable character though, even if his design isn't that remarkable.
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>>157097812
He's talking in real life, she did in fact leave Crowley eventually
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>>157097916
I like his expressions, but yeah, his design really is pretty bland.
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>>157097729
nnnnn-N-N-N-NOBODY DIES ???
Pfffffffffffffff
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>>157097916
even if he looks dull I gotta say he has a nice hoodie I want one
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>>157098023
Not going to lie, I want his hoodie.
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>>157097993
Over 300k first week sales. I think the highest we got was like 432k first week sales for NT3 or something like that. Index s1 actually didn't give the biggest boost, it was Index s2 which aired alongside OT21-NT1, and the 0930 arc of the anime sold tremendously well, furthering people's interest.

I don't wanna go out of my way to reach here and be proven wrong, but a decision may have been made to not consider another season of Raildex until Index hit another big arc.
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>>157098054
>>157098061
I was gonna post this too
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>>157098051
Illustrations when
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>>157098124
>>157098061
>>157098054
will they ever sell his Hoodie because I really want one as well
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>>157098265
Your only chance is an anime adaptation
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>>157098061
Kyouske's pretty autistic about his hoodie. He has a few dozen sets of the same clothes.
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>>157098289
FUCK
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>>157098102
Oh wow, I really underestimated how great the sales were back then, I was expecting week 1 sales to have been like 150k or so
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>>157098289
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>>157098289
Well it better wait in line for Waltraute and Zashiki Warashi to get one first
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>>157097125
You can blame Kamachi for that one. It's stated several times in the novel that the name is 8 letters long.
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>>157098316
Back before shit like SAO and Mahouka were Dengeki's big titles, things like Index and S&W dominated sales.
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>>157098102
NT8-NT10 was a pretty big arc and sold really well IIRC.
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>>157098355
Js06, any mention on who is Alesiter's daughter?
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>>157098376
High 90k's, which was amazing for it being 2+ years without an anime

And here we are now, somehow managing 5+ years after an anime
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>>157098102
It makes even less sense on why they didn't bother animating the rest of the content that was out during that time. Especially looking at the disc sales for teh franchise which overall has been very well. Only Railgun S2 suffer a diminish in profits since it sold less then the first season.
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>>157098355
Guy must have some sort of plan about that then, since there's no way he'd autistically emphasize that with no pay off

Also were the spoilers of Laura being Lola Zaza bullshit or not?
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>>157098415
Railgun S sold less because of the silent party arc, the sisters arc sold really well still.

One of the NT18 reviewers on Amazon sounded enthusiastic about the future of the franchise between NT's direction and potential new animations
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>>157082679
Everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>> index = mikoto
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>>157082679
>>157098500
Birdway = Mikoto = Othinus > Lessar = Saiai = Umidori = Index > the rest
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>>157098500
>>157098582
Don't start this
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>not putting Alicia on lists
Get with the time fags
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>Season 3 will happen
>Season 3 will happen
>Season 3 will happen

The self-delusion could power all of Academy City if it were an energy source.
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>>157098582
>Mikoto
>Not average at best
>Index above anything
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>>157098419
Let's just say a find/replace "Laura" → "Lola" is in order.
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>>157098398
>>157098419
Chill, he'll tell us whenever.

>>157097828
Does it really count as a family feud if it's all coronzon?
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>>157098667
The sheer delusion from that denial stopped that get
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>>157098693
It'll take a while for me to get used to that change. Maybe I'll just start using Coronzon.
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>>157098693
How do they stop Aiwass
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>>157098693
> It was Lola Stuart all along
Dammit Kamachi.
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>>157098693
Well then, this is gonna take some time getting used to, and if she does get renamed, I suppose that would make the twist rely obvious

Actually, I wonder how different our impression of her would be if we knew her as Lola from the start?
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>>157098693
So all this time we've been spelling her name wrong? Wow.
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>>157098809
We'd have treated it as a family feud from the start.
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>>157098693
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>>157098809
I wonder if the nips knew that it had been family feud since the very beginning?
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>>157098798
>>157098809
>>157098826
That didn't surprise me. I saw people on 2ch saying that and assumed everyone here on /a/ already made that connection
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>>157098826
>All those outdated pdfs
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>>157098857
We made the connection, but most of us assumed she went with "Laura" because "Lola" isn't that common of a British name.
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>>157098831
It feels kind of funny now thinking of old specula that it still was a family feud, but rather than being father/daughter it was between spouses with Crowley skipping out on child support for their black hole daughter
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>>157098864
OT4 onwards bruh
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>>157098883
I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be Kamachi fucking with names, and we'll refer to her as Lola from now on. Because I'm pretty sure even things like the YP release and the dub use Laura
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>>157098883
That and the fact that official materials use LAURA Stuart instead.
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>>157098693
shit. we all always made the connection that she is the wife
so index is the wife in loli body?
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>>157098693
Wait, so what does Yen Press spell her name as?
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>>157098693
Wait, we've been spelling her name wrong the entire time?
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>>157098947
S>>157098920
ee
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>>157098920
I thought YP based their translation from Js06 with small edits here and there?
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>>157098826
ローラ=スチュアート
Rōra Suchuāto
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>>157098923
>>157098883
>yfw Kamachi knew all along
>he never corrected the name
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>>157098960
I wouldn't be surprised honestly since their manga also hasn't gone past the part translated online
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>>157098960
Given how they fucked up some of the terminology they can't be using js06's translation.
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>>157098693
>>157098864
>>157098971
>ALL those outdated subs and translations
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>>157098966
As seen here, Laura and Lola are almost the exact same possible names. That's why we shouldn't need to go back and correct the name, it was supposed to be a twist but with another one of Kamachi's wordplay. If I'm understanding this right we should just call her Lola from this point on
>>
>>157098971
>>157098966
>he never corrected it because it would spoil Laura's true origins even though its right in our fucking faces
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>>157098966
The way her name is spelled out in bio has an elongation in the middle making it a natural assumption that it's Laura rather than Lola

Ah well, editing this is gonna be a long and awkward affair
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>>157099017
No need, as shown in >>157098971 the Japanese used "Laura" as well in official material. From this point on it's Lola, but before that it can stay Laura.
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>>157098923
>>157098826


Because that was her at that time. Kamachi played with it for plot so it's not that we were pronouncing
it different
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>>157099048
So is it just Kamachi making a pun?
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>>157099068
Yes.
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I wonder if we'll ever see Astarte Crowley
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>>157099068
Yes.
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>>157099068
It was an elaborate word play that became a massive plot twist that everyone should have seen coming for the last 12+ years but failed to until now
>>
>>157099068
Kamachi making a pun? More like Kamachi making FUN (on us)!
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>>157099048
We could also assume he just fucked up and thought her name was Laura Zaza this whole time too
I mean he is spelling Choronzon as Coronzon for some odd reason
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>>157099086
> Astarte
Now that's a nice name.
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Just say it.
It's a retcon. Kamachi probably didn't plan this far.
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>>157099086
Nigga she dead.

>yfw she sees Raildex's depiction of her father.
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>>157099109
>it's a fake Choronzon
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>>157099109
Clearly Coronzon needs to find an H to be the complete Choronzon. If you know what I mean.
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>>157099002
The madman
laughing at us right in our faces
KAMACHII
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>>157098826
>Tfw it's Lola desu
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>>157099129
Didn't she only die a few years ago?
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>>157099119
Normally I'd agree but this is part of the overarching plot that he's been setting up since OT4. This is one of the things he first planned for.
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>>157099119
>He didn't plan this far
>Aleister's "A saint and a criminal, woman and man" spiel was literally foreshadowed from the start
Nah
>>
>>157099109
For a mythology buff, it seems kind of unlikely that Kamachi would make a mistake like that, especially when he's writing another series where the precise names of mythological figures are significant.

Not impossible, since Kamachi has made mistakes before, but it doesn't sound probable.
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I think I'll just keep it Laura so that new readers can avoid some potential spoilers. I can't decide.
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>>157099099
He sure did. I bet he's laughing his ass off right now jojo
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>>157099119
>implying implications
>implying Kamachi didn't plan on Index's memory erasure to be on the exact day Lilith was born to show how petty Choronzon/Laura is
>implying Index saying she's hungry all the time is because Lilith died because she was hungry as she couldn't keep down her food
>implying Endymion wasn't always off-panel
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>>157098693
B-But Laura looks nicer ;_;
>>
I wonder if Crowley's spy days are also mentioned
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>>157099182
You're assuming new readers will research Thelema, not everyone is this autistic
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>>157099176
He could very well be omitting the H for a specific reason, is what I mean.
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>>157099196
>Aleister prequel never
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>>157099203
> You're assuming new readers will research Thelema
Well they should.
>>
>>157099186
Endymion is a special case because in the novels you don't have a drawing of the skyline so it literally could have been there.
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>>157099097
>but failed to until now
The Japanese atwiki entry has said her name is probably a reference to Lola Zaza for at least as long as I've been translating the series. I honestly thought everyone already knew this was probably coming.
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>>157099224
That's basically this volume, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>157099238
Damn. Nips knew all long
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>>157099229
But they won't. Few people are going to do homework before reading some light novel.
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>>157099238
Most people did suspect a connection between Laura and Aleister. Father/daughter just never seemed to come up.
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>>157099238
For fucks sake
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>>157099203
We have internet and will search terms to understand what the heck they're reading.
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>>157099238
We've memed about it, I think, but not really as a serious theory that people pushed.
>>
>>157099238
There were guesses, but mostly we didn't think of it because we wanted Index to be the daughter while Laura be the estranged wife to Aleister.
>>
>>157099264
They still should. Thelema is fascinating. It's hard to tell how much Crowley actually believed and how much was just bullshit he came up with while drunk/high.
>>
>>157099238
There was always that lingering suspicion, but we all just shaked our heads and went, nah not gonna happen
Goddamnit
>>
>>157099279
You overestimate the average reader.
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>>157099238
No wonder the nips isolated themselves.
>>
Has Choronzon even been mentioned in Index so far? I can already see some pleb who knows jack shit about Thelema typing about how its an asspull
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>>157099301
>Kamachi hid his obvious twist in plain sight because everyone was greatly overthinking it
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>>157099238
Dude can we just leave it as Laura? I get that we want it to be faithful to the source but for fuck's sake, the spelling held for 11 years in both official and fan material

>tfw this will be the new Horo vs Holo
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>>157099343
Nope, we've only mentioned it because the writhing in the Sahara line if I recall and random anons who look up Thelema noticed it would fit for the invisible thing very well.
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>>157099186
I'm positive the food thing is going to happen. It'd be really easy for a child to die from being unable to hold down food, especially if the illness had other symptoms like fever, breathing problems or diarrhea. Especially if she was only 2. But doesn't that sound just like a normal, unfortunate illness?
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>>157099355
It's Korbo.
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>>157099238
I only figured out that could've been the case when someone mentioned the similarity in their names about a week or so ago when we were talking about Aleister's children. That's what I get for not reading about Thelema in japanese too, I guess.
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>>157099292
Laura is only one of the remaining daughters he have. So it could be that index is the dead one or another one.
>>
New thread

>>157098004
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>>157099364
Aleister's portions of the series have been greatly rewarding to people who do their homework
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>>157099274
Worst slut right here
>>
>>157098966
Should've known from the start since R and L are basically the same in Japanese pronunciation.
Fuck my Japanese failed me
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>>157099393
a week ago*
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>>157099417
>Worst slut right here
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>>157098693
And the dead one wasn't revealed?
>>
tip these since two days ago, folks
4chansoboost (&never listen)...
(∥ ̄■ ̄∥)
>>
The great debate:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12947252
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>>157099526
This is entirely dependent on how its shown in NT18. Is it a reveal or something?
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>>157099526
Fuck it's happening.
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>>157099526
Why is "Kamachi deliberately left it" not an argument for Laura rather than Lola
>>
>>157098966
Like Estelle and Esther
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>>157099604
Oh yeah, fuck I'm retarded. Too late now.
I'm for Laura personally but I figure js06 should make the final call.
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>>157099526
Oh god, I can't decide, hell I'm almost tempted to go with Laura for all the previous volumes, and Lola moving forward from the reveal even if such a thing never existed in Kamachi's writings, just leave a translation note about it or something
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Lola is the spanish short form of Dolores, meaning sorrows and pains

hmmm
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>>157099901
FATHER HELP ME
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