>Goku would rather ask his wicked nemesis that has every reason to want to dick him over and nothing to lose for help than his old friend Yamcha
Yamcha bullying has ascended to a level beyond Super Saiyan Blue
Also this is for (You)
if you repeat it enough times Toriyama might retcone the story
So I just discovered that the supplemental Daizenshuu confirms my headcanon, all Broli's forms are just the same Super Saiyan form that the legendary saiyan can use.
Every form is a special "legendary" version of the SS, but it's always the same LSS. The first state he used (the weakest one) it's called an "A type LSS/SS", C type is the one used against Videl, Goten and Trunks and B type is the bulkiest state.
Then I guess pic related is Kale's C type Legendary Super Saiyan form (bulkier than a regular SS/A type LSS but still not as bulky and tall as her B type LSS form) and her A type will be just Kale with green hair
What do you think is their excuse to bring him back?
Xenoverse 2 mods when
Oh yes, he is.
That queer basically prints money. With the way Super is, basically 50% nostalgia bait/ 50% Fan service - Toei wouldn't dare tease him like this for a cheap gag and forfeit the merchandise yen.
It's OK, we have an official Isekai that has a new chapter every
yearthat shows Yamcha's true strength.
>last thread turned into a discussion of the Pokemon anime
What the fuck are you on about?
He has Super Saiyan, and then Legendary Super Saiyan. That's literally fucking it. The one he uses against Videl is blonde because he's not being controlled by his dad any more.
>He has Super Saiyan, and then Legendary Super Saiyan
No, he has Legendary Super Saiyan, in 3 different states, according to the daizenshuu.
>The one he uses against Videl is blonde because he's not being controlled by his dad any more.
It's not about hair color. That one is C type and he was C type too in his first movie too, even having green hair. Hair color only shows how much can control his current power, not what type he's using.
>Toei's transformation and how it works
Of course it's but it's not my fault.
>Freeza becomes a good guy
>Frost becomes a villain
He was already stronger than Cell in his second movie because of a zenkai.
stronger by my headcanon.
It's literally semantics. He's SSJ then goes LSSJ. Who in the fuck gives a shit about what fucking type it was?
I've finally figured out the yamchau hate
before goku grew up, yamchau was the cool, young adult martial artist of the series
once goku grew up tho, yamchau literally served no purpose anymore
Guys, what if
Beerus takes Frieza on as his GoD apprentice after the tournament?
>It's literally semantics
Huh no? There's a big difference between having a regular SS form and then a special snowflake form (LSS) and having a special snowflake form which can adopt 3 different states
>He's SSJ then goes LSSJ
No, he's LSS C type then goes LSS B type. It's always the same basic form, just different states.
>autists who say Ningen even though their sperg leader was erased from existence
>Tien is an remorseless assassin trained by mercenary Tao, befriends Goku
>Becomes Good Guy
>King Piccolo was a bad guy terrorizing the planet, what amounts to his reincarnation teams up with Goku to fight Radditz
>Becomes Good Guy
>Vegeta is an unrepentant, mass murdering space mercenery, teams up with the gang to fight Frieza.
>Becomes Good Guy
>Androids have the potential to annihilate humanity, which they did, OUT OF BOREDOM, in an alternate timeline, they team up with the Gang to fight against Cell.
>Become Good Guys.
>Buu is an destructive force of nature resposible for destroying thousands of planets and killing 3/4 Kaioshins, befriends Satan and helps out in the Final Battle.
>Becomes Good Guy.
>Beerus is a mercurial and very much destructive Deity threatening to destroy the Earth, has a grand fight with Goku and "befriends" the Gang.
>For all intents and purposes, becomes Good Guy.
>Frieza reluctantly teams up with the Gang to save the universe from destruction and maybe get revived and finally get a shot at those pesky Dragon Balls.
>>Frieza reluctantly teams up with the Gang to save the universe from destruction and maybe get revived and finally get a shot at those pesky Dragon Balls.
>Has a son
>Super starts covering Neko Majin Z
Why dont they just stick Buu in the time chamber and wait 4 hours?
That's retarded. Literally the only reason his SS hair was blue was because of the mind control headset holding him back. He has normal SS, and beyond that LSS. What's the difference between "different states" and different forms anyways? Point is he transforms.
Is Freeza the most iconic villain in all of anime?
>2 different forms vs 1 form with 3 different states
OK anon you can rest now
Why do you keep talking about the hair color?
>He has normal SS, and beyond that LSS.
Except he doesn't have normal SS. Pic related is still the super form of the legendary saiyan so it's a LSS form. It's just not powered up enough (type B) so it looks like a regular SS, but it's the LSS form.
>What's the difference between "different states" and different forms anyways?
Are you actually asking such a thing? Can't you tell the difference between Freeza going 100% from his final form and Freeza going to alien form from his "oni" form
It depends if Vegeta's training in the time chamber can bridge the 2x gap from Kaioken
Frieza is a relatively unknown quantity. Golden Frieza was completely kicking Goku's ass in the arc version and Goku was confident Frieza could kill him instantly.
If we go by that site leaked text (assuming it's still valid) her form is like that due to suppressed rage, rather than anything about a LSSJ.
The same explanation could be retroactively used for Broly, although I doubt they'll do it.
Frieza's family has come a long way. Chilled is probably that shameful relative they don't like to talk about.
>Android 16 was a kind and gentle Android, created for the sole purpose of killing Goku. He ignores his programming, befriends the gang, and sacrifices himself to protect the Earth and animals that he had grown to love
>Is never going to be mentioned ever again
>Why do you keep talking about the hair color?
Because the Daizenshuu you keep talking about lists the blue hair as "Type A" when it's not actually a different state.
And my argument is LSS is too different from his regular damn SS form to even be compared to full-power Frieza
>5+ million years to get over it for the most part.
Yet he still couldn't.
Madara Uchiha, and I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Madara. I’m talking about Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan and with rikidou techniques, his Gunbai, a Perfect Susano’o and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he also has mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu.
Is that why he pretends to be smug, to hid his crippling depression?
>not recognizing this pasta
>Most of the U7 team members were villians at some point of the story.
>The evil galaxy tryant who is also a mass genocider is going to join the team courtesy of Goku.
Goku is surely given more reasons to the Pride Troopers to claim that he's evil.
Yep. He would've killed himself had it not been for Kibito's company.
I can understand Chiaotzufags, buufags and even dendefags. But do yamchafags really exist?
Frieza will have BBQs with Vegeta and Goku 30 episodes from now.
Cell will become Pan's babysitter, replacing Piccolo.
Well i also don't care about what they think. I just said that if you take into account the facts previously said, they're going to obsess even more with their idea that Goku is evil.
Could be his redemption arc without going full retard like Vegeta and Piccolo.
ya'll realize that the freiza thing is 100% going to be a bait and switch right?
there is no actual way in fuck freiza will agree. None of the other teammates will allow it either.
Shit Vegeta might just kill him the second he comes back. That I'd like to see.
Even if they'd entered a bizarro universe where Shin wasn't anything other than a pushover, Kibito would probably have doubts for long enough that Shin would probably call it off.
He almost certainly was, considering he survived the destruction of Namek when he was much weaker, cut in half and nearly blown to bits by Goku. Of course, he didn't have anyone left to pick him up considering he just nuked his entire army and wrecked his ship, so he might have regretted it either way.
Not sure why you assumed that this means I'm mad about anything. I'm just saying its going to be a gag. Freezer will not be on the team or participate in the tournament.
This is actually somewhat plausible
HE DIDN'T INVITE TO THE TOURNAMENT OF POWER!
So do you think somebody from u7 team will be keeping and eye on Frieza during the ToP or are they going to let him do whatever he wants there?
Considering that everyone will be busy fighting several opponents at the same time i seriously doubt it.
>implying a trio of jobbers could ever defeat Goku even while the former is holding back
what motivation will freeza have to do literally anything? That nigger is dead as fuck. Even if they win he goes back to being dead. Why the fuck would he help the people who he has a mortal hatred for and have killed him multiple times?
>goku will always overcome the odds
I'm glad I live in this universe
Frieza is blinded by rage when it comes to goku. I hope he spits in his face when offered to enter the tournament.
Let's not forget super goku is retarded as fuck and horrible at persuading
Goku will trick Frieza by making him believe his resurrection is definitive and not just for 24 hours.
Frieza will cry mad with rage when the tournament ends and is forced to go back to hell
He fast and he was cheap.
Here's another similar case from before Maeda moved on from DBZ and made Yamamuro his successor.
>Reborn as a less-evil individual, who becomes tolerant after raising a child and merging with another being
>Planet destroyed, father killed and denied the right to be his own person by...
>Destroys planets, peoples and subjugates others for fun
>Took no interest in fighting or anything other than being evil
>Immature, refused to admit defeat, tried to stab goku in the back with his own power and failed
>Japan have a tradition of adaptating mangas into animations for television but the problem is that the people who prefer to watch anime only always get spoiled because of manga only assholes
>guess what Toei does? not only spoils Vegitto in the fucking preview of the episode, also spoils Freeza in the name of the episode and give 40% of plot spoilers of every episode through the summaries
Toei is doing this on purpose, right? There's no other explanation, what a bunch of assholes.
He didn't want to wound Vegeta's pride. Imagine how broken he would have been if he found out during that fight that Goku was 4 times stronger than him even after letting Babidi mind control him.
Might as well dump the rest of the episode to episode comparisons I have.
Broly was given a "Legendary Super Saiyan 2" form at one point.
>Vegeta can fuck up black
>Piccolo can at least provide covering fire from multiple angles, break angel barriers, and other techniques
>Gohan according to the next episodes is at worst capable of overpowering SS2 current saga goku
sure why not?
Yes. He was also responsible for most, if not all, of the Raditz fight and I think the Piccolo vs Cell Piccolo vs 17 fights as well as Super Vegeta's initial reveal. I could be wrong about at least two of those since it's been a while since I kept tabs on who did what episodes.
Actually it seems I'm retarded. My own image in that post shows that Aoshima did the Goku vs Vegeta fight.
Added to my collection. I'm making a collage of all the retards being in denial about this. Just you wait, in 3 weeks' time, you'll be BTFO.
>frieza is being revived to help U7
>broly is now canon, just female
How fucking much do you want to bet U10 somehow revive Goku black for this tournament and friezas highlight fight will be against him
No clue but god did his episodes stick out like sore thumbs.
I swear only autists notice these differences
He posted this wall of text a month ago or so about having a dream one night about Smugpup pissing off Gohan so hard and hurting his feefees so bad he shits himself and goes Ultimate Super Columbine God by throwing his boots at his head whilst he's trying to be cool and charging up a kamehameha or something. Then smugpup used some kindof attack that says fuck you to beambattles by essentially turning giant beams on themselves so Gohan's brute force tactics didn't work and he essentially killed himself by going ultimate columbine. Gohanfags got mad and just called him autistic.
He doesn't rule shit, he's a pirate. He takes what he wants and everyone who gets in his way dies. If they have a problem with him he just purges their race and moves on, simple as that.
There is literally no way it's going to be Freeza. Buu is out so they'll find someone else, but Freeza is just going to be a shitty toei 1 off.
Can you make a collage image of you killing yourself when you realize how wrong you are thinking its real you fucking cuck
>spend the other episodes building up the characters
>But let's have Tenshinhan get fucking wrecked by Roshi because fuck you
I get what you're doing and why you're doing it, some might even almost respect it, but listen here and listen closely kid, nobody will care, you're wasting your own time. Do you think your parents paid for the food you ate and the electricity in your house, the roof over your head, for you to sit and make a collage of people having an opinion on a Japanese cartoon show aimed at 8-14 year olds, and post it on a website made to discuss all the cartoon shows in the world?
Most of the differences are noticed because one episode begins where the last left off and if you're watching those two back to back it's instantly noticeable like with the SSJ Goku, Trunks killing Frieza, and the SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta fight.
Also pic related made me xD really fucking hard.
Ebisawa's team can't fucking draw chins properly
Fuck him and most episodes he worked on
You're missing the point.
Jobbers are as strong as the plot needs them to be, but against plot-armored Goku they're hopeless. Even if they go maximum, Goku could defeat them all at the same time in his base form because he's Goku.
Jesus Christ it's Cellnic the Hedgebug.
Non-stop masturbation > training.
At least he partially gave us this gem.
fatbuufags tears are delicious
Both Gohan and Trunks, Gohan got unmarysue'd whilst he was Great Saiyaman and was turned into the Great Cuckman in Super, so only Future Trunks really remained Mary Sue in Super, and all the Gohanfags went columbine over gohan's treatment in super.
>Goku's PL during the 21st Budokai was 180
>Oozaru form = x10
>Oozaru Goku's PL was 1800
>Buff Roshi destroyed the moon and managed to knock back Oozaru Goku (destroyed the temple, the blast definitely hit Goku)
>Goku and Piccolo could barely push back Raditz, together
>Buff Roshi was literally Raditz tier in Dragon Ball
What are you talking about?
A few episodes ago Gohan jobbed to Krillin and then Piccolo.
Future Trunks is another story, he went from semi-jobber to mary sue thanks to the Rose saga.
Not at all. First, concentrating their ki into a blast raises the power level of that attack. Example: Goku went up over 900 when he shot his Kamehameha at Raditz. Second, Goku didn't take dick for damage from the attack and it only did anything to help Roshi because he blew up the moon.
Forgot to add some, but I'm curious as to where you all stand.
something doesnt add up, how can trunks be a mary sue when he jobbed the most out of his own saga. make up your mind. and also
>logically consistent when super is a reskinned gt+ with toriyama signature + toyble's fan wank fic
the mental gymnastics are legendary here.
Raditz didn't take dick for damage from most of Goku and Piccolo's attacks
Roshi's blast did knock back Oozaru Goku, given how Goku was in the Temple rubble
The attack was more effective than Goku's Kamehameha against Raditz
Roshi has always been
And here we have an autist who is actually defending the shit-tier writing of the Future Trunks arc. Astounding. Next you'll tell me that Zamasu sperging out and getting so angry that he became the multiverse somehow makes sense.
>the writing has always been shit, somehow that makes it okay
Also using the Buu arc as an example isn't fair, that arc was shit and nonsensical and everyone knows it. It still isn't as enormous of an asspull as an autistic green elf sperging out so much that he literally fucking turns into the multiverse.
This is him right now
Yeah. It's just a less of an asspull than
nucleus in forehead lol
so quick on the draw, but you've missed.
im just simply trying understand your logic.
youve used "jobbing and mary sue" when they are exact opposites. am i not right?
so how can trunks be a mary sue when everything he had fought to protect was undone by a "mary sue" holding a "a plot device taken an object form"
I like Vegito too, but the lengths you will go to with no compelling argument is baffling.
I dont give a shit about your us vs them that every DBS thread has been infested with. I am trying to understand your reasoning.
Who cares how powerful you are if you can't enjoy the spoils? You can take one look at Freeza smugly sitting in his stupid clown car sipping wine and you can tell he likes the finer things in life.
In fact I never got the impression Freeza likes fighting. That's why he has an army to do that. He likes killing stuff and torturing people but whenever he actually has to try he turns into a big pissbaby.
I used to put a belt in the back of my pants as if it was a tail, use orange and blue marker to color my t-shirts like Goku's gi, then take my broom stick and pretend it was the power pole.
Dragon Ball Sai.
I didn't say it didn't count you mongoloid. Where's your reading comprehension?
There is nothing in DB that is as big of an asspull as Zamasu turning into the multiverse. Not a single thing. Cell just randomly respawing as Super Duper Special Snowflake Perfect Cell was fucking retarded, Buu and Gotenks screaming holes through dimensions was fucking retarded, SS3 was fucking retarded, coffee Vegito was fucking retarded, but none of them come close.
Yamamuro. Right is fan art.
He is but I think that's more because he's out of practice with the DB style since he stopped consistently working on DB in the 90s than anything else.
He's peacefully serving his time in hell so she reduced his sentence
The right isn't fan art. It's just one of the garbage promo artists who redrew covers for EU rereleases.
Yamamuro isn't bad because he's out of practise. Out of anyone, he's been drawing Dragon Ball consistently for years. He never actually took a Dragon Ball break. Whether it be video game openings, OVAs, whatever. He's just shit.
It's nice to see people remember my stupid dream.
And in the post you responded to, I mentioned Cell's asspulls being bullshit.
Buddy, you should stop dickriding Super so hard. Just because Z had shit-tastic asspull writing it doesn't excuse Super's.
>his essence merged with the fabric of reality.
>I don't get why it doesn't make sense
>His body was destroyed, so his essence merged with the fabric of reality
Yeah, like that time Vegeta's body was destroyed during his suicide attack on Buu, so he merged with reality. Or that time Buu blew Babidi up and he merged with reality. Or that time Vegeta blew Nappa up and he merged with reality.
Are you baiting?
Why Tien rice or roshi become fighting strength
I also thought of the early G Freeza, but I was too overwhelmed with my power balance
Even before this, the mysterious friend friendship power () to the opponent who could not be defeated by SS Blue knocked down the mysterious super powered trunks
they were never wished to be immortal. I'm saying immortal + god ki = reality warping abilities
>I'm saying immortal + god ki = reality warping abilities
Well, it was fun anon but pic related.
What the fuck are you even saying?
SPOILERS: Frieza coming back
is just filler. Baba will bring him back after he "agrees" to help, but he'll immediately attack Goku because he was lying. Their fight will take up the entire episode and he will be sent back after being defeated. Buu will wake up at the very end of the episode, he's fat again btw.
>his wife is raising 2 kids that aren't his and 1 kid she claims is his
>Literally never sees them, since leaving the island for 2 hours is too much for him.
>Almost all of his money goes to his wife while he lives in a small cuckshed in bumfuck nowhere.
>Spends all his time taking care of his bull.
>is so dead inside he literally didn't care if the universe was deleted as long as his wife and kids were deleted too.
Something like Tsuru Sennin and tao pai pai sama is a taboo-like atmosphere
Though that girl was confirmed to be Tsurunense pupil
Tsurumi It seems that it is not such a grudge that was destroyed
Yamcha can beat Pikkon, clearly they should be scouting him.
Even Cell cannot compare to the power of Yamcha!
Nope, not happening. Going to the underworld to recruit someone has been advertised as an arc in Heroes since last month, but previously they've taken months to add Toei filler like SSJ Rage Trunks and SSB Kaioken.
Still in my 20s, I'm not that good at drawing, I don't even draw often enough or as a living it's just a hobby for now. If you're worried about getting good yourself then all I can recommend is persistence and understanding that even the drawings you spend ages on to begin with will look like shit, and people will say they look like shit. Hopefully you run into someone who will tell you what's wrong with most of your drawings and you'll be able to take the criticism without taking it as an insult - that always helps. If you're drawing to improve and not just for attention (the attention helps as motivation once you reach a certain point I guess) then you can get good like someone else I know within a couple of months.
>It's not that Roshi is strong, base Goku wrecked him without even trying
Huh, Goku got Tenshinhan to get Roshi complete paralyzed and defenseless by stopping Yurin, before knocking him out rather than just... you know, knocking him out.
Still, he didn't beat Tenshinhan due to strength. That wasn't an energy blast, it was an attack meant to paralyze the enemy that he used in the 21st Budokai.
The grandpa genius (roshi) who got a fighting power of one million classes without getting into the room of spirit and time and pulling out potential capability only with the Earth limited exercise
I can buy this until the sent back to hell/Buu waking up part. Them spending an episode and a half setting up Buu falling asleep is too much just for some gag, especially so close to the tournament's start.
Absolutely livid, the whole point of that scene where Goku gives Freeza his energy and Freeza tries wasting it to destroy Goku anyway was to show he is completely irredeemable, and once again, Goku showed him a bit of mercy and the fucker blew up the Earth
Chiaotzufags are even rarer than Yamchafags. I mean come on, at least Yamcha beat some people on screen. Even Chiaotzu's filler defeat of Guldo was fucking lame.
And at least Yamcha isn't a fusion device for Trunks.
You are severely buttblasted. Your fat retarded blob will be a background character forever.
Kek I just noticed the red potaras