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>Goku would rather ask his wicked nemesis that has every reason to want to dick him over and nothing to lose for help than his old friend Yamcha
Yamcha bullying has ascended to a level beyond Super Saiyan Blue

Also this is for (You)
>>157033912
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First for best Kaioshin.
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yamchafags on suicide watch
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>>157035330
freeza isn't actually coming back
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>>157035400

if you repeat it enough times Toriyama might retcone the story
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So I just discovered that the supplemental Daizenshuu confirms my headcanon, all Broli's forms are just the same Super Saiyan form that the legendary saiyan can use.
Every form is a special "legendary" version of the SS, but it's always the same LSS. The first state he used (the weakest one) it's called an "A type LSS/SS", C type is the one used against Videl, Goten and Trunks and B type is the bulkiest state.

Then I guess pic related is Kale's C type Legendary Super Saiyan form (bulkier than a regular SS/A type LSS but still not as bulky and tall as her B type LSS form) and her A type will be just Kale with green hair
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>>157035400
Your dad isn't actually coming back.
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What do you think is their excuse to bring him back?

Xenoverse 2 mods when
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If Goku unlocked Utlimate at this point in the series, would he be as strong as if not stronger than SSJB?
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>>157035400
Oh yes, he is.
That queer basically prints money. With the way Super is, basically 50% nostalgia bait/ 50% Fan service - Toei wouldn't dare tease him like this for a cheap gag and forfeit the merchandise yen.
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STRONGEST HUMAN
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Reminder

Satoshi and SatoshiGekkouga vs Shota and MegaSceptile >>>>>>>>> any DBS fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JpmScfGDtU
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>>157035400
The thing is he's still probably going to look into that before ever considering Cuckcha. That's quite an indirect insult alone.
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Reminder that I haven't forgotten, faggot.
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>>157035632
Whats up with these dumb motherfuckers making bets that they obviously won't do
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>>157035618

ehem
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>>157035330
It's OK, we have an official Isekai that has a new chapter every year that shows Yamcha's true strength.
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>last thread turned into a discussion of the Pokemon anime
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Am i a filthy ningen?
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>>157035455
What the fuck are you on about?

He has Super Saiyan, and then Legendary Super Saiyan. That's literally fucking it. The one he uses against Videl is blonde because he's not being controlled by his dad any more.
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>>157035529
He didn't actually die in the Sun because Broly is just that strong or some shit. Also this is yet another villain that became stronger than Cell.
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>>157035945
Yes.
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>>157035455
This is incredibly stupid and hope you feel ashamed.
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Oh God, they aren't make Frieza a good guy are they?
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>>157035964
>He has Super Saiyan, and then Legendary Super Saiyan
No, he has Legendary Super Saiyan, in 3 different states, according to the daizenshuu.

>The one he uses against Videl is blonde because he's not being controlled by his dad any more.
It's not about hair color. That one is C type and he was C type too in his first movie too, even having green hair. Hair color only shows how much can control his current power, not what type he's using.

>>157036066
>Toei's transformation and how it works
>stupid
Of course it's but it's not my fault.
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>>157036068
No.
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>>157036068
Oh God, they aren't make Vegeta a good guy are they?
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>Freeza becomes a good guy
>Frost becomes a villain

POTTERY
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>>157036032
He was already stronger than Cell in his second movie because of a zenkai. Around 33%
stronger by my headcanon.

>>157036157
It's literally semantics. He's SSJ then goes LSSJ. Who in the fuck gives a shit about what fucking type it was?
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>>157035330
I've finally figured out the yamchau hate

before goku grew up, yamchau was the cool, young adult martial artist of the series

once goku grew up tho, yamchau literally served no purpose anymore
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Guys, what if Beerus takes Frieza on as his GoD apprentice after the tournament?
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>>157035385
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>>157036235
>It's literally semantics
Huh no? There's a big difference between having a regular SS form and then a special snowflake form (LSS) and having a special snowflake form which can adopt 3 different states

>He's SSJ then goes LSSJ
No, he's LSS C type then goes LSS B type. It's always the same basic form, just different states.
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>>157036376
What?
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>autists who say Ningen even though their sperg leader was erased from existence
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>>157036376
>two Chichis

What
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>>157036068
>Tien is an remorseless assassin trained by mercenary Tao, befriends Goku
>Becomes Good Guy

>King Piccolo was a bad guy terrorizing the planet, what amounts to his reincarnation teams up with Goku to fight Radditz
>Becomes Good Guy

>Vegeta is an unrepentant, mass murdering space mercenery, teams up with the gang to fight Frieza.
>Becomes Good Guy

>Androids have the potential to annihilate humanity, which they did, OUT OF BOREDOM, in an alternate timeline, they team up with the Gang to fight against Cell.
>Become Good Guys.

>Buu is an destructive force of nature resposible for destroying thousands of planets and killing 3/4 Kaioshins, befriends Satan and helps out in the Final Battle.
>Becomes Good Guy.

>Beerus is a mercurial and very much destructive Deity threatening to destroy the Earth, has a grand fight with Goku and "befriends" the Gang.
>For all intents and purposes, becomes Good Guy.

>Frieza reluctantly teams up with the Gang to save the universe from destruction and maybe get revived and finally get a shot at those pesky Dragon Balls.
>?????????????


POTTERY!
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>>157036466
>Two Gokus
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>>157036483
>>Frieza reluctantly teams up with the Gang to save the universe from destruction and maybe get revived and finally get a shot at those pesky Dragon Balls.
>>?????????????

>Remains alive
>Has a son
>Super starts covering Neko Majin Z
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>>157035330
Why dont they just stick Buu in the time chamber and wait 4 hours?
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>>157036550
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>>157036157
Daizenshuu has contradicted itself in the past.
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>>157036535
Neko already appeared on the cover of a manga Buu was reading
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>>157036425
It's literally just SSJ in power and function. It's semantics, autist.
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>>157036550
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>>157036425
That's retarded. Literally the only reason his SS hair was blue was because of the mind control headset holding him back. He has normal SS, and beyond that LSS. What's the difference between "different states" and different forms anyways? Point is he transforms.
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Is Freeza the most iconic villain in all of anime?
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>>157036676
If not the, then one of them.
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>>157036676
Possibly.
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>>157036483
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>>157036676
____Yes__
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>>157036550
Yes, who is she
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>>157036676
not only from anime, from the whole pop culture, he's right there aside with Darth Vader
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>>157036770
That's young Chichi. Time travel shenanigans at its finest.
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>>157036676
Well he does have the longest anime fight ever.
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>>157036535
But who's the mom?
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>>157036928
Himself
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>>157036483
Obito was the coolest guy! xD
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>>157036928
One of those Saiyan sluts.
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>>157036595
>2 different forms vs 1 form with 3 different states
>semantics
OK anon you can rest now

>>157036667
Why do you keep talking about the hair color?

>He has normal SS, and beyond that LSS.
Except he doesn't have normal SS. Pic related is still the super form of the legendary saiyan so it's a LSS form. It's just not powered up enough (type B) so it looks like a regular SS, but it's the LSS form.

>What's the difference between "different states" and different forms anyways?
Are you actually asking such a thing? Can't you tell the difference between Freeza going 100% from his final form and Freeza going to alien form from his "oni" form
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>>157036978
Frieza was the coolest guy!
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>>157036805
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. There are plenty of more well-known villains than Frieza, especially from western media.
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>>157036676
Either him, or DIO.
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>>157036928
Krillin
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>>157037059
But his brother is Cooler
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Who's the strongest member on the U7 team?
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>>157036535
What's his son's name?
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>>157036922
But it's only 5 minutes, I bet in RoF was way less than 5 minutes
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Goku, since he has Kaio-ken.
Then Vegeta since he's going back into the ROSAT.
Then Freeza.
Then the rest.
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>>157037165
Kuriza.
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>>157037165
Kuriza.
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>>157037045
Post the daizenshuu right the fuck now before I slap your autistic ass through my screen.
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>>157036399
I like to think she called him Shin-chan and playfully teased him constantly.
RIP in pieces.
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>>157037161
It depends if Vegeta's training in the time chamber can bridge the 2x gap from Kaioken

Frieza is a relatively unknown quantity. Golden Frieza was completely kicking Goku's ass in the arc version and Goku was confident Frieza could kill him instantly.
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>>157037259
Do you think Shin fell into a spiralling depression after everything went to shit?
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>>157037259
>Shin-chan
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>>157037161
>SSB x Kaioken
Goku.
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>>157037200
Meant for >>157037161
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>>157035455
If we go by that site leaked text (assuming it's still valid) her form is like that due to suppressed rage, rather than anything about a LSSJ.

The same explanation could be retroactively used for Broly, although I doubt they'll do it.
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>>157037161
Frieza.
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>>157037161

Vegeta if you ignore Kaioken. Goku likely can do x10/x20 KK like nothing so Vegeta can't realistically close the gap.
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Frieza's family has come a long way. Chilled is probably that shameful relative they don't like to talk about.
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>>157036361
Freeza isn't fit for it; he'd use it on a whim for personal profit rather than actually being a balancing force with creation.

Beerus does this too so fuck it, why not?
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>>157037398
>Chilled
non-canon
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>>157036483
>Android 16 was a kind and gentle Android, created for the sole purpose of killing Goku. He ignores his programming, befriends the gang, and sacrifices himself to protect the Earth and animals that he had grown to love
>Is never going to be mentioned ever again
;_____;
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>>157037161
Frieza, then Goku then Vegeta. They're the only 3 who mean shit on the team anyways.
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>>157036676
>this is what dbfags believe
kek
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>>157037398
Is Frieza's race best race?
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>>157037129
>Freeza = the coolest
>cooler < coolest

Freeza wins
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>>157037398
not canon
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>>157037439
Name a better one.
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>>157037398
Chilled was my nigga
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>>157037439
Who do you think is the most iconic anime villain, then?
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>>157037463
Hard to say. We've only seen four of them. Frieza, dad Frieza, blue bootleg Frieza and purple bootleg Frieza
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>>157037045
>Why do you keep talking about the hair color?
Because the Daizenshuu you keep talking about lists the blue hair as "Type A" when it's not actually a different state.

And my argument is LSS is too different from his regular damn SS form to even be compared to full-power Frieza
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>All the Cellcucks on Kanzenshuu right now
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>>157037045
How can someone be this autistic
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>>157037324
Yes, but he had 5+ million years to get over it for the most part.
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>>157037588
>5+ million years to get over it for the most part.
Yet he still couldn't.
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>>157037482
I'd say people know Team Rocket more than they do Frieza
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>>157036676
he is on top, along team rocket and mecha godzilla.
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>>157037494
Madara Uchiha, and I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Madara. I’m talking about Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan and with rikidou techniques, his Gunbai, a Perfect Susano’o and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he also has mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu.
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>>157037482
Shaa Aznaberu the Led Comet
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>>157037664
actually sasuke is a fair choice i guess.
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>>157037716
Sasuke is as much a villain as Vegeta is. And if we're talking about popularity here fuck off, Vegeta is way more popular
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>>157036676
definitely
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>>157037716
He's merely a rival not an iconic villain.
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>>157037630
Is that why he pretends to be smug, to hid his crippling depression?
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>>157037664
>Madara Uchiha
Freeza is light years above Madara. I liked Madara too and all, but I just can't agree.
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>>157037630
Onee-san pls no bully.
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>>157037540
you don't need to go to kanzenshuu to find assmad cellfags. they're all around us
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>>157036676
Maybe for anime/manga.
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>>157037638
>Frieza and Cell show up on a mechanical Giran to steal Goku's Pikachu
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>>157037716
>>157037809
>not recognizing this pasta
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>Most of the U7 team members were villians at some point of the story.
>The evil galaxy tryant who is also a mass genocider is going to join the team courtesy of Goku.

Goku is surely given more reasons to the Pride Troopers to claim that he's evil.
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>>157037807
Yep. He would've killed himself had it not been for Kibito's company.
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Why are people saying Frieza is coming back? What did I miss?
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>>157037807
The smug comes from eons of isolation with only Kibito as company. His people skills were shit.
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>>157037991
Kibito's a good man
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>>157035400
>>157035477
them digits don't lie sorry anon
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>>157037966
Who the fuck cares what they think?
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>>157038019
>>157037991
Who do you think is the top?
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>>157037995
Japanese tv guide shows that Buu falls asleep in episode 91 and 92. Goku asks Baba to bring Frieza back from hell for 24 hours in 93.
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>>157037936
uhm i did, the guy posted it to shitpost, so what, naruto villians are now on the table and ready to get discussed.

fuck off.
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>>157038053
the top of what?
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Gotenfag here.

I can understand Chiaotzufags, buufags and even dendefags. But do yamchafags really exist?
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WHO IS READY FOR PART 3 ON SATURDAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwC3k0iIKcw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYGNwULXYo
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>>157037995
Meme magic working its wonders again.

>>157038053
Kibito is pure. He wouldn't dare do anything filthy like that with his boss.
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>>157038198
yes
considering he got his own spinoff
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>>157038206
What if Shin asked? Oh who am I kidding Shin would never do that.
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>>157038198
roga fu fu ken mother fucker.
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>>157036068

Frieza will have BBQs with Vegeta and Goku 30 episodes from now.

Cell will become Pan's babysitter, replacing Piccolo.
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>>157038198
There's a fucking General Bluefag anon, anything is possible.
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Frieza was literally going to blow himself up along with earth just to kill goku and vegeta. What the he'll makes you guys think he will agree to be in the tournament
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>>157038272
So does that mean Piccolo can git gud again and be top tier?
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>>157038198

They were genocided during the King Piccolo saga.
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>>157038037
Well i also don't care about what they think. I just said that if you take into account the facts previously said, they're going to obsess even more with their idea that Goku is evil.
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>>157038301
Actually Whis says pretty clear "Reminding you guys that Freeza can survive in space, so he might still be alive" so when he blew up the earth he might still wes alive
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>>157036361

Makes sense.

Could be his redemption arc without going full retard like Vegeta and Piccolo.
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ya'll realize that the freiza thing is 100% going to be a bait and switch right?

there is no actual way in fuck freiza will agree. None of the other teammates will allow it either.

Shit Vegeta might just kill him the second he comes back. That I'd like to see.
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>>157038252
Even if they'd entered a bizarro universe where Shin wasn't anything other than a pushover, Kibito would probably have doubts for long enough that Shin would probably call it off.
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>>157036448

Say what you say, but Black succeeded in anhilating an entire universe and all of its ningens where other villains failed.
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>>157038395
How was Piccolo full retard?
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>>157038365
>might
He almost certainly was, considering he survived the destruction of Namek when he was much weaker, cut in half and nearly blown to bits by Goku. Of course, he didn't have anyone left to pick him up considering he just nuked his entire army and wrecked his ship, so he might have regretted it either way.
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>>157038198
Yamcha was a cool and funny guy back in DB first arcs.
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>>157038365
Tru, I forgot about that. But still that would ruin frieza for me
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>>157038417
>dat damage control
stay triggered
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>>157038430
TURANKSU and Mai survived
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>>157038417
Cry harder Cellfag
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>>157036676

he's the most sexiest
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Assuming Freeza's race can't die for old age, he's almost fucking invincible
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>>157035529
>inb4 this does so well that Toei decided to swipe Broly God for another Movie
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>>157038417
Realistically vegeta, piccolo and gohan would beat the shit out of goku THEN kill frieza but this is Dragon ball super we're talking about
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>>157037161

Goku is the John Cena of all universes known and to know.
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>>157038417
>ya'll
>freiza
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>>157038525
What would make you assume that though?
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>>157038549
>Realistically vegeta, piccolo and gohan would beat the shit out of goku
Wouldn't Goku like that though?
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>>157037463

They have the most potential, but they're also homosexual which contributes to their small numbers.

sayans on the other hand can even breed with other species
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>>157038479
>>157038508
Not sure why you assumed that this means I'm mad about anything. I'm just saying its going to be a gag. Freezer will not be on the team or participate in the tournament.
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>>157038608
How do Freezies breed anyway?
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>>157035330
This is actually somewhat plausible
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>>157038616
>that denial
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HE DIDN'T INVITE TO THE TOURNAMENT OF POWER!
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>>157037995

Toriyama reads 4chan and takes ideas for future plots directly from us
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So do you think somebody from u7 team will be keeping and eye on Frieza during the ToP or are they going to let him do whatever he wants there?

Considering that everyone will be busy fighting several opponents at the same time i seriously doubt it.
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Instead of finding Freiza in Hell they find Raditz
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>>157038626
they lay eggs
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>>157038654
>if you don't think freeza coming back is going to be awesome that means you are mad

can you explain further?
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>>157038671
>takes ideas for future plots directly from us
>smugpup's autistic dream sequences
OH NO
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>>157038671
Is he enough of a madman to canonize Broly?
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>>157037506
>blue bootleg Frieza
Can't wait for the Frieza vs Diet Frieza clash.

>>157038672
Beerus will keep an eye on him from the audience gallery.
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>>157038698
well for one
he has to team up with his mortal enemy
could be interesting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dh54j91rxw

Who was behind this scene and where is he now
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>>157038549
>implying a trio of jobbers could ever defeat Goku even while the former is holding back

kek
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>>157038793
How's the doctor a jobber?
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>>157038739
what motivation will freeza have to do literally anything? That nigger is dead as fuck. Even if they win he goes back to being dead. Why the fuck would he help the people who he has a mortal hatred for and have killed him multiple times?
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>>157038826
Offer to wish him back to life. See which he hates more: Goku or being in hell
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>>157038826
goku could bribe him to send him to a nicer hell
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>>157038757
That's Yamamuro if I'm not mistaken. I also believe the exact next episode is Uchiyama and the difference in quality is staggering.
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>>157038793
Vegeta, master roshi and krillin could team up and kick gokus ass now that powerscaling is dead
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>>157038757
It's funny because that's the same fight where they grab each other's shoulders and repeatedly touch knees for like 30 seconds.
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>>157038037
I care
You are quite clearly not a friend of justice
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>>157038875
Picture of comparison?
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>>157038729
What autistic dream sequences?
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>>157035621
>It took pokemon 20 years to become digimon
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>>157038555
>goku will always overcome the odds
I'm glad I live in this universe
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>>157038909
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>>157038867
Frieza is blinded by rage when it comes to goku. I hope he spits in his face when offered to enter the tournament.

Let's not forget super goku is retarded as fuck and horrible at persuading
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>>157038826

Goku will trick Frieza by making him believe his resurrection is definitive and not just for 24 hours.

Frieza will cry mad with rage when the tournament ends and is forced to go back to hell
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>>157038980
kek

holy shit
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>>157038980
How did Uchiyama even keep his job? Every episode he did looked like shit.
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>>157038994
Did u forget super goku is autistic?
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>>157039028
RESPECT THE DEAD ANON
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>>157037494
Kira
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>>157039028
He fast and he was cheap.
Here's another similar case from before Maeda moved on from DBZ and made Yamamuro his successor.
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>>157038729
OH YES
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>>157038616
Your tears are delicious.
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>>157039052

He also becomes incredibly smart like an idiot savant during convenient times, like when fighting Hit.

Besides, Frieza is even more retarded than Goku.
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>>157036179
>Piccolo
>Reborn as a less-evil individual, who becomes tolerant after raising a child and merging with another being

>Vegeta
>Planet destroyed, father killed and denied the right to be his own person by...

>Freeza
>Destroys planets, peoples and subjugates others for fun
>Took no interest in fighting or anything other than being evil
>Immature, refused to admit defeat, tried to stab goku in the back with his own power and failed
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>>157038980
based uchiyama
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Is LSSJ a concrete form or is it something that stacks over other ssj levels? Like, if Broly achieves SSJ2, can he stack LSSJ over it to become even more powerful?
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>>157038980
Why exactly was Goku holding back in this fight? IIRC, he had SS3 at this point no? He essentially allowed himself to get bloodied and bruised.
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>>157038672
>implying any of them could do shit against him
Beerus will keep an eye on him.
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>>157038938
They're amazing and I'd love to see them in Dragon Ball.
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>Japan have a tradition of adaptating mangas into animations for television but the problem is that the people who prefer to watch anime only always get spoiled because of manga only assholes

>guess what Toei does? not only spoils Vegitto in the fucking preview of the episode, also spoils Freeza in the name of the episode and give 40% of plot spoilers of every episode through the summaries

Toei is doing this on purpose, right? There's no other explanation, what a bunch of assholes.
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>>157038757
tadayoshi yamamuro.
He is the character designer for DB Super.
Supervised Ep 13. Did some key animation for ep 39, Storyboarded RoF
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>>157039158
he didn't want to hurt Vegeta's feefees
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>>157039158
He didn't want to wound Vegeta's pride. Imagine how broken he would have been if he found out during that fight that Goku was 4 times stronger than him even after letting Babidi mind control him.
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>>157039158
He's a good guy. He didn't want to make Vegeta cry.
Plus, after seeing how weak Babidi's goons were, he really wasn't expecting Buu to be a threat.
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>>157039137
Frieza is only retarded when he's pissed, he couldn't have been that stupid to rule entire galaxy's
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>>157039190
Goku is smugpup?
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>>157035400
>Could wish for buu to wake up
>wish's for space hitler
I wanted to see buu fight...
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Might as well dump the rest of the episode to episode comparisons I have.
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>>157039105
Did Maeda do the well animated parts of Goku and Vegeta's first fight, and the good bits of Vegeta vs Recoome?
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>>157039145
Broly was given a "Legendary Super Saiyan 2" form at one point.
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what if Madhouse animated Dragon Ball Super?
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>>157038793
>Vegeta can fuck up black
>Piccolo can at least provide covering fire from multiple angles, break angel barriers, and other techniques
>Gohan according to the next episodes is at worst capable of overpowering SS2 current saga goku
sure why not?
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>>157039271
that would be pretty cool
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>>157039246
Yes. He was also responsible for most, if not all, of the Raditz fight and I think the Piccolo vs Cell Piccolo vs 17 fights as well as Super Vegeta's initial reveal. I could be wrong about at least two of those since it's been a while since I kept tabs on who did what episodes.
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>>157039158

He learnt to hold back from Roshi.

Goku's powerlevel always is: stronger than you.
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>>157039198
not to mention that even Buu wasn't a threat to Goku to begin with
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>>157039226
He's not wishing Freeza back. He's going to get Baba to give him a 24 hour pass from Hell
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>>157035398

Do they actually exist? I thought it was just a meme.
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>>157039246
>>157039310
Actually it seems I'm retarded. My own image in that post shows that Aoshima did the Goku vs Vegeta fight.
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>>157039204

Dragon ball's universe is entirely comprised of stupid and legally retarded characters.

He's only slightly above average.
>>
What's Ebisawa's deal with chins?
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>>157038417
Added to my collection. I'm making a collage of all the retards being in denial about this. Just you wait, in 3 weeks' time, you'll be BTFO.
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>frieza is being revived to help U7
>broly is now canon, just female

How fucking much do you want to bet U10 somehow revive Goku black for this tournament and friezas highlight fight will be against him
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>>157035618
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>>157039378
No clue but god did his episodes stick out like sore thumbs.
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>>157039271
No Bardock, Super, GT, or movies.
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>>157039237

I swear only autists notice these differences
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>>157038938
He posted this wall of text a month ago or so about having a dream one night about Smugpup pissing off Gohan so hard and hurting his feefees so bad he shits himself and goes Ultimate Super Columbine God by throwing his boots at his head whilst he's trying to be cool and charging up a kamehameha or something. Then smugpup used some kindof attack that says fuck you to beambattles by essentially turning giant beams on themselves so Gohan's brute force tactics didn't work and he essentially killed himself by going ultimate columbine. Gohanfags got mad and just called him autistic.
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>>157039145
If the fucking guide means something, LSS is the only SS form Broly had so if Broly achieve SS2 it would be a LSS2
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>>157039204
He doesn't rule shit, he's a pirate. He takes what he wants and everyone who gets in his way dies. If they have a problem with him he just purges their race and moves on, simple as that.
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>>157039379
There is literally no way it's going to be Freeza. Buu is out so they'll find someone else, but Freeza is just going to be a shitty toei 1 off.

Can you make a collage image of you killing yourself when you realize how wrong you are thinking its real you fucking cuck
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>>157039394
>spend the other episodes building up the characters
>But let's have Tenshinhan get fucking wrecked by Roshi because fuck you
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>>157039379
I get what you're doing and why you're doing it, some might even almost respect it, but listen here and listen closely kid, nobody will care, you're wasting your own time. Do you think your parents paid for the food you ate and the electricity in your house, the roof over your head, for you to sit and make a collage of people having an opinion on a Japanese cartoon show aimed at 8-14 year olds, and post it on a website made to discuss all the cartoon shows in the world?
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>>157039408
yeah autist
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>>157039408
Most of the differences are noticed because one episode begins where the last left off and if you're watching those two back to back it's instantly noticeable like with the SSJ Goku, Trunks killing Frieza, and the SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta fight.
Also pic related made me xD really fucking hard.
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>>157038430
>all of its ningens
No he didn't.
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>>157039237
>>157039310
>>157039349
>>157039403
Ebisawa's team can't fucking draw chins properly
Fuck him and most episodes he worked on
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You don't even deserve a (You), everyone called him out on his shit for posting literal fanfiction with a trip of his stupid fursona
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>>157039272

You're missing the point.

Jobbers are as strong as the plot needs them to be, but against plot-armored Goku they're hopeless. Even if they go maximum, Goku could defeat them all at the same time in his base form because he's Goku.
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>>157039237
God bless uchiyama.
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I kinda wish we saw Nail fight the GInyu force. He was 42,000. Would have helped.

Also been funny to see Vegeta job to Nail when they first met.
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>>157039476
>Those eyes
Jesus Christ it's Cellnic the Hedgebug.
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>>157039443
Keep going.

>>157039465
Yes.
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>>157039443
a reminder that without Freeza we wouldn't have Meruem (Hunter x Hunter) one of the best Shounen villains ever
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>>157039465
because being right on a tibetian meditating board is the only satisfaction that it gets in life.
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>>157039394

Non-stop masturbation > training.
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>>157039419
Hah, that sounds great.

>>157039495
Gohanfags opinions don't count, get rekt faggot
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>>157039524
Vegeta would've jobbed to Nail even after the Zenkai boost he got from Zarbon fucking his shit up.
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>>157039513
At least he partially gave us this gem.
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>>157039497
yeah, but the only other people to have nearly as much plot armor are Gohan and Trunks.

when they both have goku job to them at least once by holding back
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>>157039439

Yeah, its implied Frieza from U7 is very stupid compared to Frost from U6.

Frost is actually cunning.
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>>157039607
Trunks is Mary the Sue though, of course he'll have MC level plot armor.
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>>157039443

fatbuufags tears are delicious
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Is Vegeta the only character that doesn't really get any job opponents or ass-pulls? He's the best character in the franchise, right?
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>>157039687
He's up there.
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>>157039687
What do you even mean by that?
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>>157038975
Oh shit my OC
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>>157039655
Both Gohan and Trunks, Gohan got unmarysue'd whilst he was Great Saiyaman and was turned into the Great Cuckman in Super, so only Future Trunks really remained Mary Sue in Super, and all the Gohanfags went columbine over gohan's treatment in super.
>>
REMINDER
>Goku's PL during the 21st Budokai was 180
>Oozaru form = x10
>Oozaru Goku's PL was 1800
>Buff Roshi destroyed the moon and managed to knock back Oozaru Goku (destroyed the temple, the blast definitely hit Goku)
>Goku and Piccolo could barely push back Raditz, together
>Buff Roshi was literally Raditz tier in Dragon Ball
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>>157039607

What are you talking about?

A few episodes ago Gohan jobbed to Krillin and then Piccolo.

Future Trunks is another story, he went from semi-jobber to mary sue thanks to the Rose saga.
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>>157039327
I'm still sad I don't get to see buu fight.
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>>157036483
>Buu kills 3/4 KAioshins

Dafuq? What was Beerus doing? How is this accepta- wait... Did he only protect the kaioshin planet where his 'other half' lived?
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>>157039676
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>>157039443
>this denial
This is delicious
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>>157039419
WAN

TAN

DAN
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>>157039158
Earth time

more SSJ3 equals less time
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>>157039768
Not at all. First, concentrating their ki into a blast raises the power level of that attack. Example: Goku went up over 900 when he shot his Kamehameha at Raditz. Second, Goku didn't take dick for damage from the attack and it only did anything to help Roshi because he blew up the moon.
>>
>mary sue
>vegitocucks are STILL this assblasted.
>>
So no hope for Cell appearing in the future either in a movie or in the anime series just because he's hard to draw/animate?
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>>157039801

The way the multiple Kaioshins works has been swept totally under the rug, if not outright retconned at this point.
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>>157039439

The main difference between Frost and Frieza is that Frost was never shown to be sadistic and racist.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12939255

Forgot to add some, but I'm curious as to where you all stand.
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Soon.
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>>157039866
Why don't they just use a texture for the spots on his body?
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>>157039866
Pretty much but I doubt they wouldn't just bullshit his spots if they did decide to do such a thing.
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>>157039861

How do you explain his sword genkidama and stupid nameless saiyan transformation?

Jobbing the entire saga would have been more logically consistent.
>>
I can't wait, next month Freezacucks will get BTFO and Cell will come back
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>>157039927
>stupid nameless saiyan transformation?
It has a name. Super Saiyan Rage.

>How do you explain his sword genkidama
Mortals working together to defeat an enemy.
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>>157039889
>no chun vs tien
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>>157039866
>Cell comes back
>Goes Golden with the first few minutes
>Two tone like Frieza
Wow so hard
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>>157039927

Genkidama sword could be explained in the manga.

As for Ikari, Goku and Vegeta will compare it to Kale LSSJ tranformation.
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>>157039967
But that would be shit. Just like Cell.
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>>157039954
>Super Saiyan Rage.

"I-It has a name, its called beautiful saiyan princess rank 2!!!!!"
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>>157039889
>no goku vs krillin
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>>157039927
>mary sue
>jobbing
something doesnt add up, how can trunks be a mary sue when he jobbed the most out of his own saga. make up your mind. and also
>logically consistent when super is a reskinned gt+ with toriyama signature + toyble's fan wank fic
the mental gymnastics are legendary here.
>>
>18 and 17 will job to save Krillin
It hurts
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>>157039852
Raditz didn't take dick for damage from most of Goku and Piccolo's attacks
Roshi's blast did knock back Oozaru Goku, given how Goku was in the Temple rubble
The attack was more effective than Goku's Kamehameha against Raditz
Roshi has always been holding back
>>
Piccolo vs 17 was so fun
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>>157039861
They're just mad because Vegetto got "nerfed" and will never defeat a main villain.
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>>157039861
>>157039954
And here we have an autist who is actually defending the shit-tier writing of the Future Trunks arc. Astounding. Next you'll tell me that Zamasu sperging out and getting so angry that he became the multiverse somehow makes sense.
>>
How badly would Kid Vegeta have stomped the Dragon Ball verse (beginning to 23rd Budokai)?
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>>157040043
>holding back
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>>157039935
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>>157040083
As much sense as Gotenks and Buu being able to suddenly scream a hole through dimensions
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>>157040083
>shit-tier writing of the Future Trunks arc.
>not comprehending absolute kino that was the future trunks arc
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>>157039935
>Cellcucks are this delusional
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>>157040043

Roshi's true powerlevel is maximum

He only holds back to let his pupil get stronk
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>>157035330
>>157035400
Alright time to spoil me. How is Freeza coming back
>>
>trunkscuck defending their fanfiction asspulls
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>>157040112
>the writing has always been shit, somehow that makes it okay
Also using the Buu arc as an example isn't fair, that arc was shit and nonsensical and everyone knows it. It still isn't as enormous of an asspull as an autistic green elf sperging out so much that he literally fucking turns into the multiverse.
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>>157040133
Baba gets him a day pass like she did for Grandpa Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta
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>>157040176
Why
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>>157040162
>It doesn't count if I say it doesn't count
And I suppose you'll say that Cell's final revival doesn't count either?
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>>157040043
Epic headcanon.
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>>157037423

What does Freeza even need profit for anyways?

The motherfucker could nuke your world apart if you say no to him.
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>>157038757
That's Yamamuro

This is him right now
>>
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>>157040162
Yeah. It's just a less of an asspull than nucleus in forehead lol
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>>157040112
this, i dont know what where they complaining about 17, this always was shit writting
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>>157040083
>defending
so quick on the draw, but you've missed.
im just simply trying understand your logic.
youve used "jobbing and mary sue" when they are exact opposites. am i not right?
so how can trunks be a mary sue when everything he had fought to protect was undone by a "mary sue" holding a "a plot device taken an object form"
I like Vegito too, but the lengths you will go to with no compelling argument is baffling.
I dont give a shit about your us vs them that every DBS thread has been infested with. I am trying to understand your reasoning.
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>>157040091
Kid Vegeta was stronger than Nappa, just guess yourself
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>>157040220
Who cares how powerful you are if you can't enjoy the spoils? You can take one look at Freeza smugly sitting in his stupid clown car sipping wine and you can tell he likes the finer things in life.

In fact I never got the impression Freeza likes fighting. That's why he has an army to do that. He likes killing stuff and torturing people but whenever he actually has to try he turns into a big pissbaby.
>>
I used to put a belt in the back of my pants as if it was a tail, use orange and blue marker to color my t-shirts like Goku's gi, then take my broom stick and pretend it was the power pole.
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>>157040091
There's a manga that does this. I forget what it's called. Vegeta even married Bulma at the 23rd Budokai.
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>>157040230
what the fuck happened.
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>>157039158
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>>157040091
>>157040324
Dragon Ball Sai.
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>>157040230
Who did the left poster?
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>>157040091
>>157040324
DB Sai
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>>157040049
Yeah, one of the few battles in Z that doesn't became a complete one sided beating.
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>>157040360
>>157040366
That's the one.
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>>157040318
What about your hair?
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>>157040230

Yamamuro is bad these days, but that isn't his work on the right.
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>>157040318
>>157040404
I put a t-shirt on my head to pretend it was Super Saiyan 3 hair and use my nails to scratch my body so I'd look like I just got out of a fight.
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>>157040193
I didn't say it didn't count you mongoloid. Where's your reading comprehension?

>>157040249
There is nothing in DB that is as big of an asspull as Zamasu turning into the multiverse. Not a single thing. Cell just randomly respawing as Super Duper Special Snowflake Perfect Cell was fucking retarded, Buu and Gotenks screaming holes through dimensions was fucking retarded, SS3 was fucking retarded, coffee Vegito was fucking retarded, but none of them come close.
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>>157040182
>>157040182
buu is asleep wont wake up
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>>157040272
>youve used "jobbing and mary sue" when they are exact opposites. am i not right?
No, considering I'm not the anon who has been throwing those terms around.
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>>157040363
Yamamuro. Right is fan art.
>>157040417
He is but I think that's more because he's out of practice with the DB style since he stopped consistently working on DB in the 90s than anything else.
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>>157039935
>Cell
Who?
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>>157040446
Why would Freeza have any incentive to help save the Universe? He's in Hell
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>>157040182

He's peacefully serving his time in hell so she reduced his sentence
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>>157039935
Cellcucks' tears have been giving me so much life ever since Frieza got confirmed to return once again with their bug boy still being irrelevant.
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>>157040433
Sure thing buddy.
>>
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>>157040473

The right isn't fan art. It's just one of the garbage promo artists who redrew covers for EU rereleases.

Yamamuro isn't bad because he's out of practise. Out of anyone, he's been drawing Dragon Ball consistently for years. He never actually took a Dragon Ball break. Whether it be video game openings, OVAs, whatever. He's just shit.
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>>157040473
>Right is fan art.
>Yamamuro
>fan art

Well, you're not wrong, current Yamamuro is shit fanart tier
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>>157040533
>Yamamuro drawing Toyotaro's work
Who would've thunk it
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>>157040535
>He's just shit
Must be old age.
>>157040582
Are you just retarded or something? Right side is not Yamamuro.
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>>157039419
>>157039832
It's nice to see people remember my stupid dream.
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Leave DB to me
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>>157040647
No one really wants to.
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>>157040647
Watch Sun & Moon already.
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>>157040697
>reads down then right
what the fuck
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>>157040647
When did you learn how to draw smugpup?
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>>157040487
Hell dies when the universe dies How hard is that to understand ?
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>>157040520
>no argument
(You) are clearly autistic.
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>>157040792
How bad can Hell really be if you'd still rather be in Hell than not exist
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>>157039237
old DB had the best art style
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>>157040793
Argument's right there in that picture. lol nucleus in head, ignore head being blown off
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>>157040845
And in the post you responded to, I mentioned Cell's asspulls being bullshit.

Buddy, you should stop dickriding Super so hard. Just because Z had shit-tastic asspull writing it doesn't excuse Super's.
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>>157040724
Just wait until you hear what Mimikyu sounds like in the anime.
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>>157040969
Super's asspulls are bad. But that's literally impossible. Even Zamasgiygas doesn't reach that level of bullshit, and you need to accept that.
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>>157041021
Not him but Universal Zamasu was one of the stupidest things I've seen in Super so far though.
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>>157041207
And Cell's return being something literally impossible is even worse than that.
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>>157041021
>literally impossible
>Zamasu becomes the multiverse because muh ningen
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>>157041263
I don't get why it doesn't make sense. His body was destroyed, so his essence merged with the fabric of reality.
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>>157041322
>his essence merged with the fabric of reality.
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>>157040533
i dislike the mouth on Gin, the kinda "shortening" of Vermound's face, and the eyes/noselines on foxman.

Dammit Yamamuro.
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>>157036157
>according to the daizenshuu.
can to give source? scans?
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>>157038628
kek
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>>157041322
see that last sentence is where you lose me
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>>157041322
>I don't get why it doesn't make sense
>His body was destroyed, so his essence merged with the fabric of reality
Yeah, like that time Vegeta's body was destroyed during his suicide attack on Buu, so he merged with reality. Or that time Buu blew Babidi up and he merged with reality. Or that time Vegeta blew Nappa up and he merged with reality.

Are you baiting?
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>>157039261
it's only called Super Saiyan 2, actually.
Same for his Super Saiyan 3 and 4 forms.

He DOES get a Super Saiyan 4 Full Power form, though
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>>157041706
zamasu's ki along with his body was made immortal, when his body was destroyed his god ki enveloped the universe
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>>157041764
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>>157041764
>when his body was destroyed his god ki enveloped the universe
That makes no fucking sense. You just made it even more of a clusterfuck.
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>>157041792
One could say the same for any explanation of Cell's return.
Because it's bullshit only saved by headcanon, since he says something literally impossible.
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>>157041812
We've never actually seen anyone with god ki die before so it isn't that much of a clusterfuck.
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>>157041862
>seen anyone with god ki die
Gowasu.
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>>157038291
General Blue was fucking amazing and you know it.
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>>157041862
>we've never actually seen anyone with god kie die before
except you know all those kais Buu killed. Yet their god ki did not make them merge with Buu.

Also Gowasu
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Why Tien rice or roshi become fighting strength
I also thought of the early G Freeza, but I was too overwhelmed with my power balance
Even before this, the mysterious friend friendship power () to the opponent who could not be defeated by SS Blue knocked down the mysterious super powered trunks
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>>157041910
they were never wished to be immortal. I'm saying immortal + god ki = reality warping abilities
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>>157041953
>I'm saying immortal + god ki = reality warping abilities
Well, it was fun anon but pic related.
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>>157036483
Beerus wasn't a bad guy, just a guy doing his job albeit badly.
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I'd unironically watch and look forward to a slice of life revolving around Frieza and Zamasu plotting together to destroy all ningens/saiyans.
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>>157041941
What did he mean by this?
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>>157041941
What the fuck are you even saying?
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>>157042005
okay who am I kidding the ending to the future trunks arc was complete ass but goku black was cool when he was somewhat mysterious
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The woman's brolly came out with entanglement with the cabbage (seeking people in the 6th universe)
It does not come out to Goku or tenshinhan (people searching for the seventh universe)
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>>157040726
In my early 20s. I started really late, haven't been drawing long to be honest.
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Leave all other universes to me.
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>>157042191
Holw old are you now?
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>>157040289
>stupid clown car
how dare you
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How will you feel if they redeem freeza
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>>157041322

I know right, these ningens don't understand basic physics
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>>157042240
I'd be flabbergasted.
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>>157042240
Disgusted. Redemption will ruin every nice thing about Frieza.
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>>157042240

its about damn time
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>>157042078
He mean you're a ningen
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SPOILERS: Frieza coming back is just filler. Baba will bring him back after he "agrees" to help, but he'll immediately attack Goku because he was lying. Their fight will take up the entire episode and he will be sent back after being defeated. Buu will wake up at the very end of the episode, he's fat again btw.
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>>157041322
>>157042246
he wished for an immortal body, not an immortal soul you idiots.
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>>157042240
Wacky shenanigans with Frieza trying to cope with living on earth fucking WHEN!?
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>his wife is raising 2 kids that aren't his and 1 kid she claims is his
>Literally never sees them, since leaving the island for 2 hours is too much for him.
>Almost all of his money goes to his wife while he lives in a small cuckshed in bumfuck nowhere.
>Spends all his time taking care of his bull.
>is so dead inside he literally didn't care if the universe was deleted as long as his wife and kids were deleted too.
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>>157039394
It's not that Roshi is strong, base Goku wrecked him without even trying, it's that Tien is a bitch. Yamcha could probably beat him.
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>>157042322
This is pretty realistic. I wouldn't be surprised if this happened. It would suck but at least he isn't getting redeemed.
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Something like Tsuru Sennin and tao pai pai sama is a taboo-like atmosphere
Though that girl was confirmed to be Tsurunense pupil
Tsurumi It seems that it is not such a grudge that was destroyed
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>>157042240

if everybody's in love with a mass murderer they might as well shit on the character just like they did with Vegeta
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>>157042397
Yamcha can beat Pikkon, clearly they should be scouting him.
Even Cell cannot compare to the power of Yamcha!
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>>157042329
essence=/= soul
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>>157042322
Nope, not happening. Going to the underworld to recruit someone has been advertised as an arc in Heroes since last month, but previously they've taken months to add Toei filler like SSJ Rage Trunks and SSB Kaioken.
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>>157042220
Still in my 20s, I'm not that good at drawing, I don't even draw often enough or as a living it's just a hobby for now. If you're worried about getting good yourself then all I can recommend is persistence and understanding that even the drawings you spend ages on to begin with will look like shit, and people will say they look like shit. Hopefully you run into someone who will tell you what's wrong with most of your drawings and you'll be able to take the criticism without taking it as an insult - that always helps. If you're drawing to improve and not just for attention (the attention helps as motivation once you reach a certain point I guess) then you can get good like someone else I know within a couple of months.
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>>157042322

kek

fatbuufags grasping at straws
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>>157042397
>It's not that Roshi is strong, base Goku wrecked him without even trying
Huh, Goku got Tenshinhan to get Roshi complete paralyzed and defenseless by stopping Yurin, before knocking him out rather than just... you know, knocking him out.

Still, he didn't beat Tenshinhan due to strength. That wasn't an energy blast, it was an attack meant to paralyze the enemy that he used in the 21st Budokai.
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>>157042520
Ah okay. Thanks for the tip.
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The grandpa genius (roshi) who got a fighting power of one million classes without getting into the room of spirit and time and pulling out potential capability only with the Earth limited exercise
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>>157041731
None of them were immortal though
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Tien is valued because it is a genuine warrior
Gohan and Kuririn are unstable by stopping martial arts and returning
Goku Vegeta Piccolo is an alien in the first place
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>>157042628
>He STILL cares about consistency in dragon ball
It's time to give up anon.
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>>157040533
Only positive thing I can say about this is that I actually like the change from inverted triangle to two diamonds Liquir has now.
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>>157039676
How do retards like Cellfags actually exist? DBZ abridged?
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>>157042240
>>157042290
Pretty much this.
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leave the ToP to me, dad
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>>157035330
I'm the guy you made that for. I love you.
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>>157042814
>two potaras
why.jpg
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>>157042322

Source?
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>>157042900
his ass
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>>157042814
Shouldn't it be
>you're alright dad, don't go to the ToP tomorrow
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>>157042941
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>>157042322
I can buy this until the sent back to hell/Buu waking up part. Them spending an episode and a half setting up Buu falling asleep is too much just for some gag, especially so close to the tournament's start.
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>>157042240
Absolutely livid, the whole point of that scene where Goku gives Freeza his energy and Freeza tries wasting it to destroy Goku anyway was to show he is completely irredeemable, and once again, Goku showed him a bit of mercy and the fucker blew up the Earth
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>>157039889
My favorite fight is Tien and Goku's rematch.
It's the last tactical fight in the series and shows how much Goku has grown his brain.
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>>157042240
Mad that they don't redeem the other villians if they are willing to do it with space hitler.
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>>157042240
>Brings back and redeems space Hitler
>Won't bring back and redeem Goku's own brother

I little upset
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>>157043057
Freeza > Raditz tho
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>>157038198
Chiaotzufags are even rarer than Yamchafags. I mean come on, at least Yamcha beat some people on screen. Even Chiaotzu's filler defeat of Guldo was fucking lame.

And at least Yamcha isn't a fusion device for Trunks.
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>>157043031
>the rest of Super is all arcs to redeem past villains
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I haven't been here since sunday, does the shitty frieza rumor got confirmed or what?
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>>157043122
>Except Raditz
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>>157043164
Meme magic is real and he's now replacing Buu.
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>>157042240
Ass devastated.Being irredeemable is part of Frieza's appeal.
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WHO HAS BEST WIFE IN DRAGON BALL
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>>157041832
>something literally impossible
>Zamasu becomes the multiverse because something something god ki something something ningen
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>>157042386
what a cuck XD
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>>157043242
Krillin and Vegeta.
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>>157042469
Not canon.
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>>157043242
Trunks
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>>157043263
please don't bully him
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>>157035330
Should've brought back Cell. He'd be creaming himself to fight stronger opponents
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>>157039443
You are severely buttblasted. Your fat retarded blob will be a background character forever.
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Honest thoughts on DBS as a continuation of DBZ?
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>>157042876
Kek I just noticed the red potaras
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>>157043242
Kale does.
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>>157043016
>and then Super happened
>Goku - What am brain, what is thunk, am want fight stronk guys
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>>157042991
THREE episodes
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>Freeza is going to impregnate and marry a qt human girl

Launch your time is here
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What's the difference between a Super Saiyan and a LEGENDARY Super Saiyan?
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>>157043402
Freeza is dickless like Piccolo
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>>157043402
>Launch
literally who
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