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>if I use this power, i'll die >doesn't die

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>if I use this power, i'll die
>doesn't die
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>>157034027
>It's time to use..that...
>Damn, I didn't want it to come to this
literally nobody can name an example of this that wasn't complete trash.
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>"We'll remember this!"
>Never seen again.
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>Hero sacrifices himself in order to save the world.
>he actually dies and series finishes.
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>Its the MC doesnt avenge innocent people by killing the bad guy
>The bad guy suddenly turns good
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>>157034027
it's not possible to die when you aren't killed
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>Villain does bad shit
>Hero shouts I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU!

Im sure he's really concerned
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>Story takes place in the spawn of a night
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>An idiot makes a post and does not know how to spell words
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>>157036245
>in the spawn of a night

what?
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>magic exi-
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>>157035548
Kenshin's final move kinda fucked Shishio up even though he thought he was soooo clever
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>if I use "that" the universe might be destroyed
>use it anyway
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>If you use "that" power it'll take years off life
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>>157036509
Kenshin didn't beat Shishio and would have gotten fucked raw if Shishio's blood didn't literally evaporate
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>>157035548
Sword Art Online did it well
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>"That"
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>>157035929
This shit right here is the dumbest thing and something I'll never get about anime. What is it with the Japanese and forgiveness?
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>all mc's friends are dead, mc dies alone.
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>>157034027
>finally finishing saint seiya omega
>three gold saints use the forbidden sacrifice technique and die
>they're fine a few episodes later with no explanation
>final boss literally kills all the MC's friends
>MC can literally see their ghosts
>they're totally fine after the final boss is defeated with no explanation
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>>157037062
I just realized that maybe in the saint seiya universe dying is equivalent to being just knocked out. It is really bad writing though.
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>>157036618
This is a really lazy one because usually it's never mentioned again, and even if it is taken literally you know it's going to end long before it would affect the character.
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>>157036618
>They use it anyway
>Multiple times
>After a timeskip said character is a old grandpa/grandma living healthy
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>>157036621
You could aregue that it was Shishios fault for not getting the job done before his blood evaporated.
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>>157036618
>>157037675
Despite Dragonball Super getting a lot of shit I like that Kioken x 10 Blue fucked up Goku after using it days later and a senzu bean couldn't fix him, and he never uses it again.
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>>157036561
>Universe completely fine
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>Promises Master he'll never you this forbidden technique
Proceeds to use it in every battle.
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>>157034027
Well MC will always be an exception when it comes to this.
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>>157036618
Sometimes it gets done right. That mage kid in Rave drained his lifespan to fuel a big laser spell, and he went from a kid to teenager to adult to ossan to Gandalf in a few pages as he kept pouring more energy into it.
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>>157036960
I want to see some of that
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>>157034027
>We won with the power of friendship
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>>157043465
>we lost because the villains used the power of friendship
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>>157036621
Go to bed, Hoji. Shishio would have been cut in half had Kenshin used a normal sword.
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>>157036245
2 0 Y E A R S
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>things are bad because we don't understand each other
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>>157034027
In Japanese when you use the present tense there's also an implied suppositive future meaning.
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>>157034027
>if you use this move, you'll lose your abilities
>recovers said abilities anyways
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>>157044110
>implying
Ever though about what would happen to Kenshin if Shishio decided to use his sword when he held him by the throat those two times?
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>>157038621
>and he never uses it again.
he's used it casually against the dog, didn't even need preparation just used it and nothing happened
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>if you keep using that move you will lose your powers!

>proceeds to spam the move every fight
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>if you kill him you'll be just like him!
>kill him anyway
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>>157034027
>two characters are sparring with swords
>dude A gets knocked back and his sword flies out of his hand
>dude B says some dramatic bullshit and/or they talk for a little while
>*ching*
>dramatic shot of A's sword sticking in the ground between them
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>>157036618
Chrno crusade actually going through with it.

Think anons remember this show?
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>>157035929
>gets to fight villain later in the story
>forgives the villain completely and leaves no serious injuries
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>I felt his killer intent!
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>>157044794
But he didn't, and he also let the fight drag on for too long, which is why Kenshin was able to beat him.
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>>157045558
dumb frogposter
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>>157034027
>dies without ever using power
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>>157036713
>Sword Art Online did ____ well
hahahaha
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>>157045558
Go back to facebook, kid
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>>157045558
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>If you get killed, you'll die
>gets killed
>doesn't die
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>>157034027
i miss bsd. discussion threads never.
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>>157035811
Just like in Code Geass.
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>>157043275
Try reading Devilman. Although I guess he technically doesn't die alone.
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>character gets memories erased as part of a self sacrifice
>recovers memories quickly afterward anyway
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>>157036713
This
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>guess I'll have to use..... that....

>its a gun
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>>157045965
Even worse
>gets memories erased
>stalls part of the plot until memories are regained
>loses memories again
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>This is my strongest move
>It has no drawbacks
>I just never wanted anyone too know until i really need it
>Literally the strongest move
>Never uses it again
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>>157036618
>>157038621
Naruto did this twice back in the day:

>Rock Lee's limbs are shattered
>surgery has a very high chance of killing him
>he miraculously survives but isn't nearly as retardedly strong as before
>has only like 2 solo fights after that, both times he struggles a lot
That time it was okay, it's this next one I can't fucking stand:

>Naruto uses his rasenshuriken
>his "chakra cells" get fucked up by the "wind blades" generated by the attack
>he might never be able to fight again; an entire chapter is wasted on this drama
>eventually he just powers up to the point where it isn't a problem
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>Uses OP move that fucks the MC up for life
>Friend remembers his wish granting sibling
>MC is now not fucked up and no one loses anything
>Can now use siblings power anytime they want because no drawback for his favorite Onii-chan
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>>157044817
He has never used KKX10 again since Hit, not even against Zamasu, he only uses normal Kaioken.
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>>157046142
This fucking shit right here.
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>anime with weird hair colors
>nobody ever comments on them
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>>157043275
Guilty crown
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>>157045558
Am i the only one that can unironically feel this?
am hapa
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>>157034027
>if I use this power, i'll die
>doesn't die
>haha I tricked you guys
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>>157046483
>blonde hair
>eyes are different colors
>"one of my parents is from europe lol"
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>>157034027
S3 when?
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>>157045718
oh nice he has one, too bad he's not crying
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>>157046313
Is there a manga other than HxH that does this?
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>>157047913
No. Thank god too because it is retarded. Shit writing.
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>>157048133
>No
To be fair, the dragon balls in DB also have the problem, though, at least has a bit better writing to them (Like if you die by natural causes, you stay dead)
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>>157049751
At least the whole premise of the show is that the dragon balls can grant any wish. In HxH it was a pure asspull to save the MC.
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>>157050665
Wait so gon can use nen again?
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>>157050730
>Wait so gon can use nen again
Pretty sure he used to nen to climb the tree at the end of the anime
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>>157050730
No not yet, supposedly he can't use nen anymore, but I'm sure there will be some other bs that will happen so that he can use it again (if the manga ever makes some progress that is).
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Of all anime, fairy tail actually did it well
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>>157034027
>If kill him, I'll be just like him
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>>157051222
Context? Never got interested enough in Fairy Tail
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>>157051275
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>>157051314
Villians killed the good guys and picrel used her power to turn back time, with all her power used she only succeeded to go back 1 second in time.
She turned into a granny and couldn't believe it only turned the time back by a second.
It gave the good characters a memory of how they were going to die the next second so they can avoid death and win this time.
Not bad for a shonen.
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>I am UNDEFEATABLE etc.
>Hero about to deal the final blow
>MA-MASAKA!
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>villain steals woman

>"Let her go!"

Seriously?
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>>157051480
>It gave the good characters a memory of how they were going to die the next second so they can avoid death and win this time.
A second wouldn't be enough time to process said memory much less react or have time to physically move. That character also would have had to use her powers one second after they died which sounds high unlikely to begin with.
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>>157051567
I just checked the wiki, it was 1 minute not one second
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>>157051638
Ultear despairingly discovers that only one minute had been rewound, and lifelessly collapses to the ground, thinking her life was only worth a single minute and that she was unable to save a single life. Unbeknownst to her, her spell had caused everyone in the world to clairvoyantly envision one minute into the future, preventing Gray Fullbuster's death and the tragedies surrounding Droy, Bacchus, and Macao Conbolt. By momentarily predicting their enemies' moves thanks to Ultear's sacrifice, the battling Mages are able to begin their counterattack.
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>>157051638
>>157051480
How would someone know if they would have an ability like that?
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>>157051638
A minute still isn't much time but at least it is more plausible than a second.
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>>157051275
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>>157051684
She's a mage of time
her magic Arc of time:
A Lost Magic that allows Ultear to manipulate the "time" of organic and inorganic, but non-sentient, objects, "moving" them either back or forward in time and thus changing their condition.[106] She claims that this kind of Magic is perfect for fighting Element molding Mages, and that, in the Ultimate Magic World, Arc of Time would allow her to change the sad memories of her childhood into happy ones.
Prior to the time-skip, the Arc of Time couldn't directly affect a person.
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>h-he moved faster than the speed of light
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>>157051831
>h-hayai!
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>>157051831
>He moved half a second in time
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>He is too fast!
>Impossible!
>Nani?!
These all make me laugh.
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>>157051879
You forgot

> omae wa owari da
> Proceeds to lose and die
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>>157051831
This is always so stupid because if they moved faster than the speed of light, it means they could just travel 8 times around the Earth in a second.
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>I was only pretending to be weak!
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>>157052000
>I was only pretending to be retarded for 10 years
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>>157035811
What is Occultic;Nine for 300
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>>157046477

>Entire poorly paced, poorly thought out arc dedicated to undoing the effects of that shit
>Series couldn't just end with Aizen
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>>157036618
I think this was used effectively in Outlaw Star, even if it was undone with a wish.

Although I might be misremembering. It's been YEARS.
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>>157046919
>it's always the mom
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>Was getting caught part of you plan?
>Naturally.
>well, your plan was part of my plan all along!
>Likewise.
>Ok there's literally no way u saw this coming tho
>Quite the contrary.
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>>157053949
>neither of them had a plan and they're just making shit up as they go along
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>Villain gets surprised by strange power/move
>"What did you do? That's impossible!"
>Good guy explains his power/move in full detail
>Villain counters it
>Good guy loses
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>enemy says to retreat
>hero lets them go instead of shooting them in the back and sparring themselves from a second confrontation
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>>157051879
OSOI
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>>157051552
It's like shouting
>stop!
>freeze!
>hold it!
>we just want to talk!

Just like in real life it doesn't get people to stop.
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>>157054344
>The explanation was actually an elaborate trap set up to lure the villain into a worse situation.
>Good guy wins
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>See those people with powers and shit?
>*Grabs sword with both hands*
>Well i'm stronger then any of them just using my blade like this
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>>157046236
Slam Dunk did this well, Sakuragi legitimately fucked up his legs and had to stop playing basketball and go into rehab. Granted the series ended when it happened, but he didn't just miraculously recover overnight, he was still in recovery like half a year later.
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>hayai
>not yahari hayai
makes it tolerable
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>>157034027
It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure a bunch of people actually died that way at the end of Rave Master?
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>>157054974
All of which were promptly revived afterwords by the planet's memories
Except poor little Lucia, of course
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>>157043275
Texhnolyze
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>>157054132
sounds like me playing chess with myself
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>MC defeats a super powerful villain everyone was oh so afraid of
>suddenly there's a bunch of guys that make previous villain look like a complete joke
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>>157053949
Why does that sound so like Obi-wan-san to me?
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>>157039207
>>Promises Master he'll never you this forbidden technique
I want brazil to leave
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>>157056963
>Yu Yu Hakusho makes it explicit with Demon Power Levels (tm) that Toguro was an absolute worthless joke in demon terms
>but the super-powerful new enemies are all way less cool
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>MC and his group get to the villain by killing dozens of his men
>MC fights the villain
>Is winning, going to kill him
>His whole group stops him
>If you kill him, you'll be just like him!
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>>157058975
YYH ended with Toguro.
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>fake death is so obvious you start thinking it might be real
>Nope still fake

2 nukes weren't nearly enough
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>>157056963
this is the entire plot of ttgl and shounen filth will STILL defend it
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>>157059352
>show is so unsubtle about who the culprit is you start thinking its a red herring
>nope the creepy guy did it

2 nukes weren't nearly enough
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>series has powerlevels
>MC is literally the lowest tier
>unless he uses his snowflake powers that are better than anybody else's
I understand nips who lose time watching anime/reading manga are naturally of lesser quality, and their society if very hierarchical, but self-inserting in these retards is escapism. Can't they see? It is not healthy.
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>>157059915
Escapism is the only thing keeping them from suicide.
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>one character finally builds up the courage to confess his/her love
>confession scene happens
>sorry, what did you say, I couldn't hear you
>oh, never mind, it was nothing important
This is the kind of autism that drives me insane.
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>"Wow, using this power could have killed me!"
>Character faces heavy consequences of power on his body
>Just keeps using power without any drawbacks
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>>157059996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qOWX9bM168
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>>157059915
>MC gets transported to a stock fantasy/game world
>his power level is several orders of magnitude greater than local elites'
>entire series is about everyone sucking his dick as he effortlessly steamrolls through all obstacles and gets a harem of cute fantasy girls
>it's written completely seriously
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>>157053949
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>>157043523
Now that would good shit
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>>157051275
Why are anons upset about this?
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>villains are introduced as a team and beat the mcs because of teamwork
>they get defeated in a villain of the week format
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>>157045965
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>>157035838
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>>157045484
>>157035929
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>>157052694
you are
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>>157060756
Read it and find out.
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>>157045965
>Loses memories
>They are forever lost and no plot convenience can fix that
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>World has amazing and really creative powers everywhere
>Everyone has some super special and quirky moves
>MC's power is "punch harder"
>He never thinks of clever ways to improve his powers/make them more fun to look at
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>>157046236
Lee is like "what could've been" the character.
Instead you had the gods with eyehacks saga.
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>call it a harem romcom
>main girl is unchanged throughout the series
>the other girls have better-looking character designs
>but they cling onto MC's dick like neodymium magnets and are often ignored
>main girl doesn't need to do anything and wins anyway
>go for the most unsurprising kind of ending in the history of anime
I think those LN writers do know how to make better characters, but pic related.
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>>157035548
Kaioken times three
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>>157061017
I still don't exactly understand the point of deleting his memories that early in the series.
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>>157046477
>no drawbacks

huh
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>>157061161
What show?
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>>157062009
I'm not that guy but I think he's talking about My Hero Academia
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>>157034027
>Naruto, how did you manage to heal Might Guy after he opened the Gate of Death!?

>Dunno, lol. Here's your eye back.
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>>157062679
We know nothing mattered after the pain fight and everyone getting resurrected.
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>>157036561

Didn't Lina start to actually destroy the universe? But ancient evil didn't feel like it.
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>>157062331
Or HxH and Bleach(Getsuga Tenshou is basically the same)
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>>157036621
One of the things I really liked about the movies was that it showed that Shishio had clearly lost the fight by the time his temperature had passed the point of no return. In the manga and anime, it looked like he was just getting a second wind when he went up in flames.
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>>157045965
>Character gets amnesia
>Then he gets amnesia again
>Then he gets his memories of his first amnesia back, but not the ones he had before that
>Everyone else gets amnesia

God, this show was so good for the first few episodes too. I wish it didn't turn into such horse shit.
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>>157061608
there basically was no point, it hasn't been relevant ever for like 30 books
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>>157059861
Hey, it wasn't bad for a writer whose only other notable work was about a teenage girl who couldn't stop accidentally showing her asshole in public.
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>>157061608
It's implied that he knew something about his power other than "if i punch magic it disappears".
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>>157053949
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>>157050813
>write asspull to make Gon defeat the catlady
>write asspull to make him not fucking 100% dead
>now your MC is useless and you can't think of more retarded shit to make him able to fight again
>suddenly manga dies

really makes my neurons all fired up
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>>157061608
he knew how to use his power correctly.
so they made him start over from lvl 1

>MC is losing
>villian is about to do the final blow
>MC's friend comes out of nowhere to win some time.
>MC then get some bullshit power out of nowhere.
>kills the villian in one punch
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>dramatic fight between overpowered mc and pretty powerful seeming bad guy
>mc stands back sweating, then smirks
>"thanks for teaching me about your fighting style"
>mc kills bad guy with one hit after that and its never explained what he learned
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>MC meets group of side characters
>introduction for each one, with one character who seems weaker and smaller than everyone else
>end of episode fight against filler bad guys reveals pussy side charcter to actually be the strongest of the bunch
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>>157065460
I feel like this has become too common lately to enjoy.
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>>157035890

I guess this one depends on the magic/rules. Like there's some finite line that is passed and they can no longer resurrect. It's more like being knocked out than 'dead'. Like how else do you describe the body that for all purposes presents medically as dead, it ain't moving, reacting, thinking etc but given a short will heal and get up?
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>>157062744
Bleach he upgrades often.
My hero academia he uses kicks and momentum shifts more than punches.

Never saw hxh.
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>>157061840

The problem was solved in a such a simple manner they didn't need to wait 2 years. It was literally a 'you ARE this amalgamation of 3 magics, you CANNOT ever fully loose it. So here's another jump start of mana'.
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>>157038015
Name 1 (One) series that does this.
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>band punk delinquents molesting an innocent girl added just to make MC look like badass for protecting the weak
>every time the scene develops in exactly the same fucking way
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>>157046236
Iirc he later only throw the rasen shuriken to prevent the effect
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>>157054344
video sums up your complaint pretty well.
https://youtu.be/di7DI6Q7JXA
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> advertised as a harem
> it actually isn't

CLASSIC SAEKANO
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>>157034027
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>>157063908
Gon didn't use an asspull to defeat Pitou though; even if you keep saying it a lot, it doesn't make it true, it just makes it look like you don't know what a fucking asspull is. Restrictions have been a thing since before Pitou was even fucking born.

Alluka is the asspull, but it's SOLELY Alluka.
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>>157062969

He used to know things and other characters, who for what ever reason don't out themselves and infodump on him.
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>>157036713
>SAO
>did well
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>>157067736
Just kidding, she's fine.
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>>157067736
I was so excited to see her drop dead and stop being such a whiny bitch ruining all the fun. Then she was okay for no reason.
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>>157070693
>Spends half the season in hospital recovering from jam overdose
>okay for no reason

???
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>>157036960
>almost all mc's friends are dead, mc doesn't die.
Mizukami you fucking fuck.
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>>157061608
>Not remembering "my little sister can't be this biribiri"
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>>157062918
I still need to watch the movies, but good God, the ending of the anime was fantastic.
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>>157072962
The movies are such fucking garbage. Pretend Eden of the East ended with the anime.
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>>157045425
chrno crusade was a good show, manga was superior
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>side character jobs to the villain to make him look tough for when the main character fight him
>it's better and far more entertaining than the actual main character fight
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>>157036618
>>157045425
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>>157036713
Finally, someone with taste
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>>157036279
Just cut this guy open and make a story about cute worms doing not so cute stuff.
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>>157052125
Kishi wanted to end it at that but a dying fan's wish was for the story o continue. Or maybe he had debts and is just bullshiting now.
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>>157059861
To be fair, it would've been fine if it went full thriller and didn't bother pretending to be a mystery. The culprit really didn't fucking need a long-ass speech as part of his "reveal", he should have just kept acting nice to keep the viewer on edge and then do the job without any fuss or build-up.
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>>157044772
>If you use this move, you'll have to suffer through the worst arc ever conceived to get your powers back back
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>>157066460
>kicks and momentum shifts
>In a world where you got powers like gravity control, explosive sweat, sticky grapes, etc.
It would have been interesting if they had Deku use the power the way he did against icyhot but they proceeded to give him an even more generic usage of it.
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>trademark japanese sociopathic high school kids kidnap MC's friend
>MC meets them on their conditions and does some dumb crap they demand instead of just calling the fucking police and enjoying the sight of tax-funded professionals raiding dumb brats and beating the living shit out of them
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>the end of Law of Ueki
>he has to stay in there for like 100 years and everyone is sad
>its 10 days in real life
Fuck off
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>>157034027
One of the few things IBO did right was having the forbidden technique leave lasting consequences on Mika's body.
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>>157059996
You mean the end of Nozaki?
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