Little Witch Academia

>>156973384
>>visually unambitious
The last two episodes alone had direction and animation superior to anything from this season and the last, with the exception of Bahamut.

>>156973384
Long con
>Moe shitters see trigger and turn away
>Manime fags will see cute girls and get frustrated and drop
>Near the end of the season start amping up the good shit
>Have awesome webms flying around with Mecha shit
>More people will question where the fuck this came from
>They sit down and get a well rounded experience they didn't expect
>They buy BD's
>Trigger wins again
Or it could be nothing.

>>156973861
>had direction and animation superior to anything from this season
Uchouten 2 had consistent good direction from the start. Why can't trigger?

>>156974313
Uchouten isn't 25 episodes.
If it was you'd have half of the episodes looking bland like Sakura Quest.

>>156974031
>Have awesome webms flying around with Mecha shit
Not a mecha nor Trigger fag so honestly last ep doesn't really faze me.
The last 1 min was golden though. Trigger should have focused more on character development and interaction, not wacky shenanigans.

>>156974620
Not a valid reason

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>poorly written characters

You clearly pay absolutely no attetion to the show at all i see.

>visually unambitious

Have you looked at those designs? For the love of god, they're so recognizable even when they're all dressed up in uniforms. Even their siluettes can distinguish themselves.

>Muh overarching plot

>implying it's neccesary to make a good anime.

>>156973384
its a fun kids show, stop acting like a massive autist.

>>156973384
Were the original films visually ambitious to you? I wouldn't say so. This seems like an extension of those, with the "good animation" bits more isolated, as per TV anime standards. It's still firmly above average. I wouldn't say the characters are poorly written, given its children's show approach to writing, but I do wish it could balance its cast better. Either stick exclusively to Akko and cut down on side characters, or flesh out the others better. I don't know what you mean by muh plot.

It's good for what it's supposed to be. So many people watched it expecting some deep dark adventure or something.
If you didn't like lwa it's because you're watching the wrong kind of anime.

This show was always shit. Tattun just did a good job at making people think they liked it. I guess that's a pro PR person for you

>>156973384
>muh overarching plot
Speaking of plot, you guys sure love episodic series with only a semblance of a bigger story beneath it, huh? Kino, Aria, Kemono Friends, etc. Shit like those.

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I WANT TO CUM INSIDE SUCY!

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>>156978791
I WANT TO CUM BETWEEN AKKO'S THIGHS!!

There's no antagonist. Imagine Harry Potter, without Voldemort. It would just be a bunch of fags at a wizard/witch school....HMMM, SORT OF LIKE THIS ANIME!

Or maybe the antagonist is Akko's small brain which prevents her from achieving what she wants.

>>156973384

Why are there soo many idiots calling this show anime of the year? Are they being serious?
Have cool animation and design , but the writing is terrible, Akko personality is cringe worthy, the relationships make no sense.
Akko is the ultimate Jesus fixing the existence of everybody.

>>156973384
They didn't fail that hard, they failed averagely. The inexplicable hype for some shitty harry potter knockoff just makes it seem worse.

>>156979284
writings better than shows like maid dragon that cant even hold a thought for 2 seconds

>>156979284

This is AOTY

>>156979221
A story doesn't necessarily need an antagonist. Especially not one that's a person.

Mind you, I'm not saying this in defense of LWA.

>>156973384
This might be one of the biggest letdowns from the last 2 years. It's unbelivable how faggots are still trying to defend its mediocrity. Really sad, honestly.

You faggots are retarded. LWA is the best episodic anime since Space Dandy.
Sorry if you expected some massive overarching plot from something that from the beginning was about fun adventures and nothing more.

>>156979366
You seem to be the last person to judge good writing.

>>156979589
P.S, the last anime I watched was Space Dandy.

>>156979589
Write a list of episodic anime from the last 5 years and I'll prove you wrong.

>>156979637
Name one better episodic anime since
>inb4 Phantom Sales and Flip Floppers

>>156979606
prove me wrong senpai

>>156979569
I agree with you for SOL type shows---which really have no plot. But for a plot-driven story, there has to be an antagonist that you want to root on the protagonist to beat.

Akko is just like your average whore who wants to be a Kardashian. What's to like about that? No villain in sight.

>>156979678
>>>/wsr/

>>156979713
You can't even write a good argument without making a comparison. There.

>>156979589
Last season's episodic anime was really nice, you know which one.

>>156979589
It's not, since LWA's premise is about a normal girl trying to not be bullied at a magical school. The episodic formula doesn't fit. I'm saying this as a Triggerfag and sucker of episodic anime.

>>156973384
I can't speak for all of the hate the show may or may not be getting, but I do think the show has been pretty disappointing thus far. I completely forgot about the most recent ep for a few hours despite the fact that download links couldn't come fast enough for me when the show had just started.

It doesn't help that the threads are a pain to lurk in as well. Especially when that shill is there. But maybe that's just me.

>>156979705
>FF
>episodic

>>156979763
>Akko is just like your average whore who wants to be a Kardashian.
This is an aggressively uncharitable reading of Akko to the point of dishonesty

>>156979763
Furthermore, this fails as SoL or episodic anime because....I don't care for the random characters they introduce and then throw into the garbage the next episode.

Also, there is no character development at all in this show. A flat character is a character who doesn't change. A round character is one who changes throughout the progress of the show.

All the characters are flat. They do what's expected. All notable books/tv shows/movies have round characters.

Is OP a troll?

>>156979810
You can clearly see the audience and the type of people who lurk those threads: crossboarders. And I'm not trying to go full boogeyman. but it's fact. Did you see that thread tonight that claimed Trigger based because of a shitty League of Legends reference? And how many fucktards agreed with the OP? That's the type of person claiming the show to be AOTY or whatever, the same that claimed Konosuba as their AOTS last season. These type of show cannot be discussed on the board because of them.

>>156974031
>Moe shitters
>Manime fags

>>156979763
>I agree with you for SOL type shows---which really have no plot.
They certainly do.
>But for a plot-driven story, there has to be an antagonist that you want to root on the protagonist to beat.
They certainly do not.
Especially since you don't always root for antagonists to be beaten.
But to my first point, and forgive me for bringing up film in an anime discussion (it's just the first example that's popped into my head), but who is the antagonist in Arrival? Or will you tell me that movie lacked a plot?

Honestly, so far the best show trigger made was Luluco. Kill la kill and LWA both are okay, but not great unfortunately. They need better writing.

>>156979763
>The episodic formula doesn't fit
Yes if does. For every episode about Akko's growth there are two about random magic sheninigans. And even most of the Akko episodes are self contained experiences that offer a resolution within the episode.
That's how good episodic shows are.

>>156980076
>better writing than Kill la Kill
Doesn't exist.

>>156979988
Agreed, we need more Eromanga threads, those offer quality discussion and keep everyone but true /a/nons out.

>>156973384
Because they are a bunch of hacks who can't write good stories for shit, they should stick to adapting relatively decent sources instead of keeping piling trashy original content

>>156980300
Who can write good stories?

>>156980354
Urobuchi

>>156980354
I can.

>>156973861
I watched them, they didn't

>>156973384
/a/ is shilling for LWA because muh Tattsun and Western fanbase shenenigans.

It's not even popular in Japan so that pretty much sums up the state of LWA and its cancerous fanbase.

>>156980409
No matter what you answer he'll tell you that you're wrong because he can't defend his shity show with any decent arguments.

>>156980469
>/a/ is one person
The only ones shilling it are crossboarders.

>>156979786
still havent proven that Maid dragon has good writing. I guess this round goes to me

>>156980469
So much this, fucking trigger will go bankrupt if they keep being such westaboos

>>156979589
Space Dandy switched up the setting, color pallette, visual style and art direction nearly every episode, LWA is not even in its league.

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Last episode was the best one yet by far. Constanze is cute!

>>156980354
Okada

>>156980511
Who ever claimed that Maid Dragon has good writing?

>>156980354
The only anime with good stories are novel adaptations.

>>156980409
Lol

>>156980511
Wow you're pathetic, do you even know how to read?

>>156980592
Kobayashi was written well

>>156980554
If that was enough to have a good episodic show Flip Flappers wouldn't have been such a piece of shit.

>>156980692
Fuck off Digibrony.

>muh episodic shit
Even fucking kekmeme furries have a better overarching plot and character development than this pile of crap, trying to carry the whole thing on the back of one single character being so obnoxiously retarded that everything can happen is even worse than 50's cartoons for kids

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>ywn pilot a mecha with constanze

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>>156980692
>Kobayashi was written well

>>156980756
I disagree, it's a really good cartoon for kids.

>>156980756
It's not episodic if there's a main story

>>156980617
There are plenty of novels that deserve an adaptation, I can even see Trigger adapting a bunch of western material too

>>156980809
True, it's unfortunate such projects would never get funding.

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>>156980705
>shittalking flifla just to fit in with the memesters

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>short
>petite
>clever
Imagine manhandling her, and bending her over her machines and have it soaked with her pussy juices while her standbots cry in "lewd" in unison.

>>156980792
Too bad its main audience isn't kids, huh.

>>156980884
>implying
Just wait for the Netflix numbers to come out

>>156980883
Go back to your containment thread.

>>156980931
Kids don't anything other than Disney, period.

>>156980884
Japanese-made children's programming seems very focused on selling toys from what I saw, so naturally a show that is simply fun wouldn't get aired in their children's programming. It wouldn't be surprising if it gets picked up by western stations. If so I just hope it gets a proper dub with accents in check and not everyone sounding like a generic American.

>>156980057
Different anon. Arrival had a plot, but no story. Stories are based on conflict. If someone doesn't get defeated, it's not a story.

>>156980808
The problem is that this show has a main story, it's just that it gets overshadowed by lots of low quality episodic shit

>>156981051
I didn't watch Arrival myself, but there is such a thing as internal conflict. You can have a proper story and drama based on an internal conflict just fine, without any sort of personified antagonist. This has nothing to do with LWA though.

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>>156981051
>If someone doesn't get defeated, it's not a story.
It's not good to come up with your own definitions of words, Anonymous.
For the sake of the very fabric of society, it's not good.

>>156980975
You are 30 years late pal, even Disney barely does any shit with their own name nowadays.

>>156981131
The best episodes so far have been completely unrelated to the plot.

People really need to stop trying to make a serious plot revolve around retards, it just makes the writing shitty.

>>156981210
The fabric of society can wash my balls. I'm using the Western definition.

>>156981247
This just shows how bad they have driven the plot.

>>156981348
Nice backpedalling.

>>156981453
Nice non-argument

>>156973384
>poorly written characters
not poor, yet not that impressive. more like somewhere in between

>visually unambitious
the visuals are actually its strogest advantage since Trigger looks so "vanguardist" (in a good sense). unique style. you dont like it? your problem

>muh overarching plot
if by overreaching you mean something like "tryhard", then i disagree. not that the plot is good, its actually a bit meh, its just that i dont see trigger taking this story in serious.

Why did they fail so hard?
it didnt failed. its trigger. everyone knew wed get something like this. maybe a bit more in terms of plot but thats it.

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>>156980587
I dont know if this is a joke or if someone actually believes this.

>>156981710
The characters in LWA are very poor for a 2 cour show with entire 12 episodes dedicated for world and character building.
And honestly while I don't think Akko is a terrible MC (genki retarded MC has been a thing for eternity), the show's really given her an unhealthy amount of spotlight on the detriment of every other side characters.

>>156979763
>SOL doesn't have plot
What is K-On

1. Akko has a talent for magic, and in general, talent for magic is a thing. Notice how muggles can't even see ghosts or Wild Hunters.
2. Constanze's robots do her bidding, but can have their own opinions. Notice how they rejected transforming robot project, while Constanze herself got to it in an instant.

Conclusion: Imaishi > Yoshitnari

>>156983859
As an animator: Yoshinari > Imaishi
Designer: Yoshinari >>> Imaishi
Episode director: Imaishi >>> Yoshinari
Series director: Imaishi > Yoshinari (but unfair since this is his first series)

>>156983859
>Comparing someone who has directed at least three shows and various shorts with someone that is directing his first series

You're a complete faggot.

>>156984051
>As an animator: Yoshinari > Imaishi
I agree with everything but this.
Yoshinari is great with fluidity, but I love Imaishi's dynamic style.

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>>156981051
>story
But anon, me visiting and fucking your mum is one hell of a story

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>>156981000
>If so I just hope it gets a proper dub with accents in check and not everyone sounding like a generic American.

The chances of them getting people from the actual countries (and multi-lingual for non-english nations) is pretty astronomical.
Meaning the only likely outcome is fake accents, the worst possible option.

Lack of authenticity is preferable to pure, undiluted cringe.

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I love that Trigger keeps fucking up this series with two crappy pretty dudes and forced romance bullshit. Then make up some cheapass excuse like they thought about bringing boys since the OVAs. Why didn't they do it while they were at it, then? Things would've been different.
This is why you don't fuck with the fans, kids. Don't change the formula if they like it very much and want to keep it like that.
Episodes 6 and 10 would have been great without the shoehorning, but the fact they just hamfisted romance and it just had to have Andrew and Frank in it. Whatever role Andrew and Frank played in those episodes, that role would have been filled better by and actually been enjoyable if it was with Lotte and Sucy or team B or Ursula or some other teacher.
The hamfisting characters or romance into an episode really takes away from the enjoyable parts, but the lackluster resolution of episode 5 doesn't take away from the good parts.

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>No Sales Academia
>Little Sales Academia
>Little Andrew Shoehornemia
They should have stuck to the formula of the OVAs,whoever decided to add Andrew and Frank needs fired, if not executed.
I've loved every episode aside from the ones where they appear, and the episodes they were in would have been good if they weren't in it.
Trigger honestly deserves to go bankrupt for this shit, I went in expecting a TV version of the OVAs, instead I get shoehorned faggy boys and shoehorned romance.
I was gonna buy the BDs but decided to wait after the first Andrew episode in case they continued to fuck up, and unfortunately for them they did. They lost a few hundred dollars from me and many other people for the shoehorning.
Trigger should care because this is their second fluke in a row, Kiznaiver was even worse. If they keep being so unsuccessful they are going to have a hard time finding any investors. I'm surprised they were able to find any anyways, that faggot Tattun said Trigger wasn't on the production committee so they don't see any of the profits, which means it doesn't matter to Trigger whether the show does well or not because it doesn't affect them, which means they can just fuck up the show like they tried to in episodes 6 and 10.

And to make things worse that fag said Trigger was interested in PSG so they can fuck that up too.

>>156973384
Because the universe works great for movies but it's to shallow / unexplored in the series. In movies you don't have to get into much details. The series lacks background action/lore

I'm having a hard time understanding where the hatred for this series is coming from. I've been enjoying it pretty well, and while it's neither narratively nor artistically ambitious, it's a perfectly competent episodic comedy/adventure. It offers something novel every week while managing to avoid the worst excesses of the anime industry as a whole. It's a format that worked three times in a row for Watanabe, and it seems to be doing fine here.

>>156986126
>I'm having a hard time understanding where the hatred for this series is coming from.
There really is no hatred, just disappointment.

>>156979221

> There's no antagonist

Croix? She's literally sending monster of the week type enemies against the group now.

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>>156979221

>>156986167
Fair enough. It's certainly not going to be "the show that saves anime", barring some miracle at the finish line. Still, is it that much of a step down from the OVAs, episode length aside?

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>>156985906
>Shoehornfag reduced to posting on the bait threads.

My only problem with this show is how long they've been recycling the same "untalented at magic" shit.
>Akko attempts a spell
>nothing/unintended effect happens
>What a fucking idiot lmao
>Oooh here comes Diana with her eyes closed in an arrogant manner!
>Does a perfect spell
>says something about this being beginner level while flipping her hair and walks away
>Repeat x15
It gets old fast

I hope every series from now on just hits /u/ fags with huge straight bait-and-switches completely out of left field because it's seriously a laugh riot.
>M-muh shoehorned romance
>Stupid men! I hate them so much!

>>156979589
hahaha

>>156986575
Damn, I sure hated how they did that in every single episode this season. Can't go three minutes without Diana getting in the way. I just wish we could have maybe two or three episodes in a row without Diana showing up.

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Leaving aside that, for whatever reasons, you don't like LWA.
Why do you bother to come to a thread just to complain about it?
I'm aware of what I am asking, but do you really have nothing better to do than wasting everyone's time?

>>156986575
That stopped happening by the end of the first cour, and the only episode that offensive in its depiction of Diana was 5, that everyone wants to forget.

>>156986905
How is criticizing a show a waste of time? The same way people want to talk about a show they enjoyed, people want to talk about a show they didn't enjoy. It's literally the same emotion.

>>156987680
It's the exact opposite emotion
I talk about LWA because it makes me happy (positive emotions)
They do it because they don't like the show (negative emotions )

>>156986126
>I'm having a hard time understanding where the hatred for this series is coming from.
As the previous Anon said, it's not so much hatred as it's disappointment.
And while I can really only speak for myself, I think it comes down to the characters. Akko is considerably less likeable (and personally, it has little to do with her not being able to do magic), and every other character is considerably less of a character altogether. These are both things that affect every other part of the anime to a tremendous degree. Even if a story was good, it's tarnished when you don't really care about the characters in it.

I wouldn't say the characters are poorly written, but they really don't interact with each other much except in their respective episodes. Especially Lotte and Sucy are clearly only Akko's sidekicks. I'm not expecting that much, but besides the drama between Akko and Lotte in the 2nd OVA and Amanda teasing her occasionally everyone just seems to support Akko because "she's innocent and they are friends I guess" without getting much of a sense they developed any kind of friendship

>>156987943
It's the exact same emotion, just turned in different directions. The opposite of love is indifference. Enjoying the show and not enjoying the show is the same emotion.

>Hey kids, even if you're a useless retard like Akko, if you work hard, you can follow your dreams!
>Oh, and Akko has a plot deice that allows her to cast complicated spells without having to put any effort in. So hard work isn't needed if you're special.

>>156988068
The point is that Akko can use the Rod effectively because it channels her emotions.
Everyone else has stopped believing and couldn't do jackshit with it.

>>156988205
No, it's stupid. They already stressed how she needs to work very hard to catch up to the rest of her class, and that Chariot needed to work hard to be any good at magic. so then they just drop a special wand into her lap, and she's the only one that can use it because she's special.

>>156988515
Can you read?

>>156988515
>>156988068
Do you even watch the show? Akko has never used the rod for school shit. She only uses it when dealing with situations related to the rod in the first place. Those complicated spells you talk about are useless outside of very specifics contexts and situations, so this special wan isn't really a shortcut.

>>156988661
So what's the point of even having it? Why not keep more in line with the show's message and have her work hard to have her successes in time of crisis be her own rather then needing an outside force?