How to fix the FSN

>>156864263
/u/, pls go and stay go

>>156864263
Shirou is the best part of FSN

Shirou is integral part of every route, you cannot just delete him.

>>156864263
All masters are male and all servants are female:
Masters start a brothel.

>>156864263
And here I thought Rin not existing would have been part of this.

>>156864263
how about just make FSN back to its pornographic roots

>>156867965
this

>>156864263
Yuri is fucking boring mate.

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>>156864263
Tokiomi never summons Gil in the 4th war but still dies. Rin summons him in the 5th instead.
They proceed to fuck everyone's shit up.

>>156864263
Shirou is always as good as he is in Heaven's Feel or Oath Under Snow.
Make Saber an actual interesting character.
Make Gilgamesh less shit.

>>156868424
Would watch

>>156868424
>Rin and Gil
Well, this is something I haven't seen done before. Seeing as her dad had him as a servant, I guess the idea does make some sort of sense.
Since she was a 'manhater' at the beginning of F/SN, would Gil's behavior turn her around? If Shirou wasn't there, of course.

>>156864263
Here's how you solve FSN

>Make Saber into proto-saber, it's no longer about waifu faggotry it's purely about two men finding resolution in their conflicting yet similar ideals and their iron and fire friendship

>Make Gilgamesh into a girl and a secret route that can only be accessed after finishing the rest where angra mainyu manages to incarnate within the grail and shirou not only abandons his ideals, but join gilgamesh and kotomine as a subversion of everything that came before

>Berserker now has more spoken lines but only during the midst of battle and only to complement his fight scenes with other servants. Add an emotional throw line to each of his encounters that mimic the physical one

>Rider has her own route that can be locked onto by jumping onto it halfway through sakura's route. It ends pretty similarly but this time it includes several scenes where rider speaks about her past and comes to terms with her own emotional turmoil by trusting shirou

>Ilya gets her own route, not much to say just a single route where sakura is turned into the grail instead of ilya and she gets to live with shirou in NBR heaven is all you could ever ask for.

There, perfect.

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>>156869062
Fuck... This, this might actually work!

>>156864798
Rin is canonically into girls though.

>>156869062
>Make Saber into proto-saber, it's no longer about waifu faggotry it's purely about two men finding resolution in their conflicting yet similar ideals and their iron and fire friendship
This. Holy fuck. Make the ending scene be pure bro-tier with ProtoArthur knights Shirou as honor members of the rounds and promises to fight alongside another when the time comes.

>>156869062
>secret route ... shirou not only abandons his ideals, but join gilgamesh and kotomine as a subversion of everything that came before
How would this work/end?

>>156864263
This is one of the most dumbest fix I ever read here.

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Make it about Proto-Rin fucking her way through a harem of legendary OLD MEN ohohotome game

>>156864263
>Shirou doesn't exist.
What the fuck are you doing?

>>156869062
Basically this. Saber being a girl is great, but she is only a girl for fap bait/waifu fags

>>156864263
We kill Grand Order.

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>>156864263
If Iri is alive, why would Illya be a servant?

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>>156876522
Master*, I need sleep

>>156864263
Shirou is a woman
Gilgamesh is his servant
Gilgamesh bullies Shiroka around trying to make her fight against Saber's master

>>156876548
Saber would never NTR her master, much less with another women. This picture is all wrong.

>>156868654
>Make Saber an actual interesting character.

She is interesting as a foil of Shirou. Their route is great on paper. It just needs to be rewritten by Urobuchi

>>156876548
>Um proceed

>>156868424
Natsu did say rin gil would make the perfect team

>>156876632
I'm pretty sure they would get on each other's nerves and never manage to get shit done.

>>156876659
I doubt that everyone would die look at fate extra ccc for example

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>>156876595
A desperate attempt at getting him to acknowledge her.

>>156877085
What? So Saber would rape her master's wife just to get noticed? So Saber would become Mordred?

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>>156877146
You think Saber's the one on top?

>>156877192
Iri doesn't swing that way, and she would never cheat on Kerry even if she did.

>>156864263
>literally /u/
Go back

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>>156877216
I distinctly remember someone saying that in the novel Iri, Maiya, and Kerry are all intimate.

>>156877452
Irisviel just accepts Maiya and Kiritsugu being intimate because.

>>156868424
Don't they have ridiculously high compatibility, equaled/surpassed only by Archer?

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>>156877216

>>156869062
you forgot a caster route

>>156877919
A joke from a spinoff does not say a thing. The Zero LN and Anime say nothing but that Iri is as straight as an arrow.

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>>156864263
Delete this.

It always puzzled me why there's no yuri variation of FSN in all it spin-offs (even Illya version is just waifubait where every girl just wants Shirou anyway for different reasons and Shirou still manages to steal the spotlight from them due to being important FSN MC).

Strange they were so afraid to make one femMC get with female servant and make some Holy War about that.

Or make a version with genderbend Shirou as the lead (to save his life he needed to be changed into a girl at that moment) and leave the rest of the girls in their roles. I would gladly see something with a redhead femMC who gets her harem.

>>156878047
>What is Extra
>What is FeMC x Nero/Tamaro

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>>156869062
I need this

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>>156877964

>>156878071
>>What is Extra
>>What is FeMC x Nero/Tamaro
I meant that in manga or anime form, games have selectable MC and in Fate Extra anime it will have male MC anyway ending with Nero route.

>>156878130
Meanwhile i'm still salty that Archer got shafted after Extra, i didn't even play a FeMC

at least Altera was kinda cool