Two female Saiyans confirmed:
> LSS Hinata
> Punk Videl
Since LSS isn't a canon form, would Kale's "Broly" form be considered SS Berserker Kale?
Why does Kale have both a regular SS form and a "broly" SS form?
The movies aren't canon but the form is, it's just not Broly because he isn't canon. Back in the Namek saga Vegeta mentioned the Legendary Super Saiyan and they haven't showed up yet, but since U6 is a parallel of U7 they have to have one too.
I've seen this exact post before. The "Legendary" Super Saiyan Vegeta mentioned was just a term, it meant the Super Saiyan was a legend, something mythical, not a literal man that's a Legendary Super Saiyan like it's a title or something.
Holy shit, how big did the Dragon Ball Universe got?
How many spin offs can we get?
>Cabba and Universe 6 Saiyans spinoff (hell, if the show focuses in the combat techniques and have a good writer, it can be just as good or even better than hunter x hunter)
>Spinoff on Frost's life on stealing stuff
>Hitto's spinoff about his family and how he ended up being a assassin
>Cowboy Bebop-esque Pride Troopers spinoff
>Random Gods Spinoff (Maybe Champa)
>Spinoff on how Dainshinkan made all the angels and how is he so strong
>Yamcha spinoff (this one is already ongoing via manga)
>Bardock and Gine ressurection arc by the angels spinoff arc (ala Minato meets Naruto but less sentimental)
How based is Shueisha/Dragon Ball Room for expanding this much the Dragon Ball universe in only 2 (TWO) years?
>Cabba and Universe 6 Saiyans spinoff
Could be good if handled right
>Spinoff on Frost's life on stealing stuff
I'd watch this shit
>Hitto's spinoff about his family and how he ended up being a assassin
Shit, we don't need anymore edgelord screentime than necessary
>Cowboy Bebop-esque Pride Troopers spinoff
>Random Gods Spinoff (Maybe Champa)
They're boring as fuck, how would that even work
>Spinoff on how Dainshinkan made all the angels and how is he so strong
Same as above
Thought it would be shit but the manga spinoff is pretty great
>Bardock and Gine ressurection arc by the angels spinoff arc
The most autistic thing I have ever fucking heard
Bardock wasn't canon either, but Toriyama liked him and made the movie canon.
Broly is probably the most famous movie villain after Beerus at this point. Considering he's remained a popular DBZ character after all these years and the hype one girl going LSS has brought, it's completely plausible that Broly, or at least LSS becomes canon.
Never mind, that's the most autistic thing I've ever heard
Even Legendary Super Saiyan was gold when he powered up at the end of the movie, which carried over to 2 and 3. It's probably green because the merchandise has made the green hair iconic for the form.
>when you hear normies talking about Dragon Ball Super in public
They almost always talk about how hyped they are for Gohan training back to mystic. Why are Gohanfags such filthy casuals?
Nope, his design was pretty cool for the 2000 and we had a lack of saiyans at the time. Now that we're getting Kale, Caulifa, Cabba and more U6 saiyans, i expect Broly to be dead between the fanbase in the next 2 or 3 years.
>They almost always talk about how hyped they are for Gohan training back to mystic. Why are Gohanfags such filthy casuals?
nah they usually talk about noncanon shit like SSBKK and "muh god forms muh blue hair"
It was cool seeing a monster fucking body 4 Super Saiyans and 1 Namekian simultaneously without taking a single bit of damage. Watching Broly tank Goku's Kamehameha from a foot away still gets me hype.
This is most likely it, but the forever obnoxious waifucucks of this shitty fanbase want even more boring garbage females to satisfy the wimp piece of trash hanging between their worthless chicken legs instead of using their worm-infested brain for once in their pathetic beta lifes. Castration without any anesthesia is the only cure for them.
This is just stupid. We had a Tournament that Universe 7 DID WON, fair and square. Nobody can deny that. Even Zeno sama saw it.
Then, we get this bullshit, that Universe 6 is stronger?
> I blame Toei for that
most people tend to like the movie 8 broly. because in that movie he still talked normal even after going Lssj
it was movie 10 that turned him into a KAKAROT(TO) only screaming lunatic
That's not a regular SS form at all
Kale is not confirmed AFAIK.
Kale and Cauli could still be the same person. There is a possibility that whoever came with the Kale name just misread/misheard Cauli in Japanese. Kale is based on an actual plant in the same family as Brocolli and Cauliflower
It honestly just looks like they made her regular SS green because Broly fans love the green hair. Kinda retarded but eh. If they were gonna change the regular SS hair color I feel they should've gone with the purplish blue they used for Broly's SS when he was mind controlled in the first movie.
>only that a SS appears once every thousand years
No, in the original manga Vegeta just said there was A legendary "super" saiyan thousand years ago, no that every thousand years appears another saiyan like the previous one.
How about you do a simple google search, instead of expecting to be force-fed info all the time?
I read the Shonen Jump USA magazine over a decade ago, I can't remember everything.
Thankfully, I managed to find it using fucking google
> How about Kame-Sen’nin? Or Vegeta? I like Vegeta too. Or Brolli from the movies?
> Brolli? Who was he? I don’t know if he was in the manga…
TORIYAMA DOESN'T KNOW WHO BROLY IS. Proof right there ("who was he?")
>There is a possibility that whoever came with the Kale name just misread/misheard Cauli in Japanese.
the denial in here is palpable
This. It's just like how the guy in the robes was changed in the final version.
Caulifla is for sure, Kale's likely is as well. I think we'll see Cabba teaching them to transform either this week or next since they're the last two recruitment episode.
Toriyama did say he wasn't sure what a female Super Saiyan looked like. He and/or Toyotaro might have decided to roll with this. We won't know for sure until Caulfila transforms.
>Kale and Caulifla could still be the same person
>just looks like they made her regular SS green
Except she becomes more bulky and tall while SS Broli is just... Broli with yellow hair and turquoise eyes. Broli SS form is a form below his green form, Kale form looks like a less powered version of his green form.
So what you're saying is, it feels kinda like an in-between form for SS and LSS.
Then they should've done this.
the green hair in movie 8 was caused by the control device supressing his power.
once free of it his hair became the normal golden color as shown in movie 10
Heroes isn't canon, but Online seemed to be canon until Super came along.
>Original color for Korin
>Toriyama designed Yardrats
>Story basically made by Toriyama, if I recall
Plus it technically doesn't conflict with Super right now, since it just dealt with the far-future and time shenanigans, and the player fixing them.
>it feels kinda like an in-between form for SS and LSS.
You got it. It's exactly like her bulky green form but... less bulky.
> they should've done this
Fuck no, not even DBH have shit as stupid as Karoli
IIRC Broly did keep the green tint a bit for LSS in movie 10.
Plus he wasn't being controlled in movie 8 in that form, so no reason for his hair to be a different color other than it just naturally being that way. LSS3 and other what-if forms seem to confirm this.
>my argument was just because he forgot his name doesn't mean he doesn't know who broly is
It also doesn't mean he does know him. But it's more likely that he doesn't, considering that interview.
Post best Bulma hair
Fusions can go even further beyond
>You got it. It's exactly like her bulky green form but... less bulky.
Maybe it's her normmal SS form, and the bulky one is USS or SS2?
Probably not...considering he wasn't involved in the Broly movies at all except a couple of sketches. And that was 20 years ago.
And when the movies came out, he was still a weekly scheduled mangaka with no life
>He forgot who Launch was
It feels like everyone forgot her
Rate Champa's team
>[saiyan named after cabbage]
>[saiyan named after side brussels sprouts]
>[saiyan named after kohlrabi]
>[saiyan named after kale]
>[saiyan named after broccoli (not Broli)]
>[saiyan named after cauliflower]
an, i mean i'm pretty sure he forgot launch's name but he still drew her for the OVA, did he not? and he forgot 18's hair colour but still knew who she was. but you're welcome to your opinion. personally i'd say 7/10 he'd recognize an image of broly
true the lssj does have a slight green tint.
Holy fucking shit you're retarded, do you always live in this much denial?
And once he goes EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
his hair turns so-dark-it's-practically-a-nigger green,
So where this name came from?
Is a new character or it's just the same case as Cabba/Kyabe in terms of spelling?
right, and i thought of that, too, but the last time launch was in the manga was a lot longer ago than when the Broly movies came out. and i'm sure he has seen at least the first one (maybe not, but my guess is he has)
lol no, gohan was not ssj2 in the first movie nor he could go ssj2 in the second
I wonder how she feels about Toyotaro being Toriyama's new favorite
>The 'Brussels' Saiyan is named after the EU Capital and not the vegetable.
>Dragon Ball Super
>Toriyama's Magnus Opus
Of course! I know what you are now. You're not an ordinary Saiyan.
You're a... a...
A SUUUUPER SAIYAAAAAAAAN!!!!
No little one. you are not more important.
everyone is equal.
Thats means you are all shit
I said that because it's not particularly hard to be more important than someone who would rather spend his time screeching about someone with a trip on. My family is great, thanks for reminding me, I see you're late to the joke too.
>implying Broly would be able to hang with those characters
Broly beat up the cast before Gohan got SSJ2 and then beat up Videl, a bunch of kids, Krillin, and a Gohan that hadn't trained seriously in years.
plus it's unknown if broly actualy got a zenkai after losing to goku.
plus he did spend most of the movie as a normal super saiyan and only turned lssj once gohan turned ssj2
No one ever has or ever will love you, you sack of shit. Get your attention whoring ass back to R*ddit or 9gag or fucking analtube where it belongs you tripfagging blogposting waste of oxygen.
A rusty SSJ2 Gohan managed to get hits in and even temporarily overpower Broly towards the end in movie #10.
Super Columbine 2 Gohan is likely on the same level as Broly so SSJ3 would be overkill.
****CANON GT MANGA ANNOUNCED****
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
The glorious part is that I'm not samefagging. But do I revel in the fact that I'm causing an insignificant number of people who are as insignificant as that number to start tearing their hair out over something equally as insignificant?
No need to project yourself onto me, your jealous is showing.
movie 10 could have happened before the world tournament arc.
the only plothole is videl already knowing about the dragon balls.
ignoring the videl plothole. it woudn't be farfetched to have gohan be the same as in the serie. and just be weaker because he is still rusty (and he has Always been a shit fighter compared to the other z-fighters)
NO SPARKS THOUGH
Goku on the Cell game "we're fucked without SS2 Gohan"
Goku against Broly "just give me some of your strength and i'll do this guys"
Broly against SS1s : beating them up but they don't die and can take a few hits
Gohan SS2 against Cell Jrs (SS1s) : literally shredding them to pieces with a single shot
Broly is probably not even pre-zenkai Cell level, let alone SS2
Jealous of what? Being a pathetic, attention-seeking tripfag desperately trying to be noticed on an anonymous image board in a thread about Chinese cartoons? There's nothing to be jealous of, I'm already better than you simply by not doing that. You're scum. You're filth.
Do they change the negative energy into positive energy?
>just give me some of your strength and i'll do this guys
He was combining the power from three Super Saiyans and one Super Namekian onto his Super Saiyan power. He was probably stronger than SS2 Gohan.
>Broly against SS1s : beating them up but they don't die and can take a few hits
>Gohan SS2 against Cell Jrs (SS1s) : literally shredding them to pieces with a single shot
Acting like these are comparable is silly. Gohan wanted the Cell Jrs dead immediately because they were attacking his friends. Broly was toying with the Z Fighters for literally the entire fight, he was not taking them seriously at all.
the only time that gohan overpowered broly was when broly was nearly breaking his back and pulling gohan's arms backwards
this is the only time broly actually feels some pain
smugfag is more important all of you for as he stated, I don't give a shit about the autist but you guys are an even bigger waste of space because you actively spend time acknowledging him every thread as a fucking group, that's fucking pathetic
>He was combining the power from three Super Saiyans and one Super Namekian onto his Super Saiyan power. He was probably stronger than SS2 Gohan.
Tired Saiyans in normal form.
Why didn't they do it against Cell if that's better than SS2?
>Acting like these are comparable is silly. Gohan wanted the Cell Jrs dead immediately because they were attacking his friends. Broly was toying with the Z Fighters for literally the entire fight, he was not taking them seriously at all.
I think he's kinda mad Goku survives his blows near the end of the movie
Toriyama said that if he had to make a sequel to Dragon Ball, he would call it Dragon Ball Z because Z is the last letter of the alphabet. It ended up being longer than the Dragon Ball portion, but whatever.
It's also the reason japs started calling Dragon Ball "Dragon Ball ZZ" during the Gohan in Highschool time, because they thought it was such a drastic change, as was Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball.
>Why didn't they do it against Cell if that's better than SS2?
Because he would have killed them. Also Goku is an autist, he wanted Gohan to be the one to win and he knew he was close to tapping into SS2. Against Broly there was no evidence they'd even gone into the Time Chamber yet unless I'm mistaken, it's been a long time.
>I think he's kinda mad Goku survives his blows near the end of the movie
He looked irritated that Goku still thought he had a chance, but I wouldn't say he was as serious as Gohan was against the Cell Jrs.
So what fresh new form will the Good Doctor pull out of Gohan?
you do realise that in movie 8 broly was constantly toying with the others.
he wanted their suffering to keep going.
also of course the heroes got plotarmor so they don't die.
or else videl would have been headless after broly punched her in the head with his biceps
After talking about Broly for about an hour in this thread, I gotta say I'm kinda sick of people giving a fuck about the smugpup tripfag.
Fucking autists making a sperg like me look normal at this point. Eat a dick all of you.
>Because he would have killed them
Could have just done that before coming at the Cell game. Could have done that at Kaio sama's planet if they wanted to hide for that time.
>Also Goku is an autist, he wanted Gohan to be the one to win and he knew he was close to tapping into SS2.
Goku literally said the Earth was doomed if Gohan couldn't do it. He was NOT playing. Contrarily to what DBS and nuGoku can show, Goku takes serious situations seriously, it's only after he won that he lets the baddies go.
Still didn't show any good feat except AT MOST beating up a rusty SS1/2
Broly lost in the first movie because his rising power literally blew him up. Goku did not overpower Broly. Goku basically popped an overfilled balloon.
Broly is certainly stronger than Perfect Cell. Since Broly ass kicked SS2 Adult Gohan with no effort, Broly is likely stronger than SS2 teen Gohan.
he did get to see her panties though
probaly why broly toyed with her. wanted to rape her later after he killed kakarot
So she will be green most of time but yellow when she releases 100% of her anger (and power)?
>Goku literally said the Earth was doomed if Gohan couldn't do it.
But the point is he decided to focus on Gohan in the Time Chamber instead of himself. Obviously Goku could have gotten SS2 as he got it in Other World with apparently no trouble.
>Still didn't show any good feat except AT MOST beating up a rusty SS1/2
He effortlessly fought five people at once and not only took no damage, but didn't even take a single blow. He also tanked a full-power SS Goku's Super Kamehameha from a foot way and laughed about it. Those are good feats.
>Broly lost in the first movie because his rising power literally blew him up.
I have heard it stated before that LSS caused Broly's power to literally just endlessly expand, but is there any actual proof of that? I've never bothered to look.
>implying he was putting in effort
He could have killed them all at once in one blast if he grouped them together. It was obvious that his power was that fucking high. Throughout the entirety of Movie 8 he did not sustain one bit of damage until he popped at the end. Cell can't claim that, SS Vegeta's Final Flash fucked him up.
>Tripfag calls NTR shit
>Rampant autistic screeching as a result
I wish I could make this shit up
No, it's just Salagir retardation
In fact, the movie itself proves otherwise. Broli needs to shot random ki blast to drain his ki because it's constantly increasing... this means he have a fucking limit of how much energy his body can contain.
Looks like he can't stop acumulate ki but his maximum power can't be bigger.
>But do I revel in the fact that I'm causing an insignificant number of people who are as insignificant as that number to start tearing their hair out over something equally as insignificant?
>No need to project yourself onto me, your jealous is showing.
Having a bad day, faggot?
>manga vs anime
>shitty tumblr fanart
>arguments over female saiyans
>cucks projecting their fetish on gohan
And many more. This place is second only to youtube if you are trying to discuss DBS. I only come to these threads to shitpost now.
>But the point is he decided to focus on Gohan in the Time Chamber instead of himself. Obviously Goku could have gotten SS2 as he got it in Other World with apparently no trouble.
At that point in the story, Gohan was the only one with the "potential" to get SS2. Goku and Vegeta got SS2 in the 7 years timeskip, doesn't mean they could've gotten it against Cell.
The excuse Goku used is kinda dumb, another year in the time chamber SHOULD improve his PL but it's never stated to be wrong by the narration at the time, so during the Cell games Goku isn't playing and Gohan is their only hope.
They can't just go in a room, take each other's hands to superboost someone stronger than a SS2.
>He effortlessly fought five people at once and not only took no damage, but didn't even take a single blow. He also tanked a full-power SS Goku's Super Kamehameha from a foot way and laughed about it. Those are good feats.
Those are good SS1 feats. But just being 2 times stronger than your opponent is enough to tank everything he throws at you unscathed (see Vegeta vs Freeza 2)
That's his gimmick. His actual other feats don't follow and weaker people can tank as fine as him.
i would put movie 8 broly at slightly stronger then perfect cell.
but cell is a more cunning and skillfull fighter that would also fight dirty when about to lose.
super perfect cell would own movie 8 broly hard.
movie 10 broly could potentially be stronger then super perfect cell but it's hard to Judge when gohan was weaker at that time
Did we drive him away? Did he kill himself?
Just because characters can do logical things doesn't mean they will do it. Right now you could logically be doing better stuff but you are not because you are human. Goku was simply tired. He thought Gohan was strong enough and that was enough for Goku.
Can Kale even beat Super Broly?
well broly wasn't a normal saiyan
In the past hour I did not turn off my trip at all.
Oh hi Smugpup. Didn't see you there. Do you like discussing Dragon Ball Super as well?
in movie 8 he had a clear limit to how much his ki could rise. when he reached that limit he had to release large amounts of ki through ki blasts and his aura.
in movie 10 this limit either got forgotten about or it had simply increased.
then again he was a normal ssj for most of the movie.
also broly had the most badass dead
got blasted with a triple super kamehameha, blow to the sun. whent right through the sun still intact and only then died when he heart exploded and then his body exploded.
skip to 3:45
The LSS is a unique form because the user's ki increases until the user blows up. Its power only depends on the resilience of the Saiyan. The other SS forms are just multipliers. SSB is also unique considering how it uses normally untraceable God ki and its power and destructive ability can be controlled however the user wants. LSS is berserk mode and is likely a stronger transformation than SSB.
>How has your wife been since you got married?
>Thankfully, she hasn’t changed much. The only thing is, she’ll go out of her way for the people around her, and won’t tell them straight-up how she feels. She doesn’t mince words with me, though.
>Would you like to cheat on her?
>I’m not that brave. But if I knew I wouldn’t be found out, I’d like to try it just a little bit.
Reminder that of u10 had Zamasu it wouldn't even be a contest
i'm dutch and i like movie 8 broly over movie 10 broly
Will Kale and Cauli be attracted to Vegeta and Goku?
you didn't like kid trunks pissing on broly's head?
or videl, goten and trunks not getting killed in 1 hit?
or they will both go after the gohan or goten D
>movie 8 Broly was defeated by dying Cell Games SS Goku with dying Gohan, dying Piccolo, dying Trunks and dying Vegeta ki
>movie 10 Broly was defeated by injured SS Gohan, injured SS Goten and SS Goku
Literally weaker than Hatchiyack
most of the cast of dragonball are manlets
even goku is only 175 - 180cm
gohan is slightly taller then goku
only piccolo isn't a manlet
others who also weren't
No if his base is as equal as vegeta during the tournament. People keep forgetting that Beerus stated that Goku in his base would never have beaten Freeza unless he had some sort of transformation.
the girls I know at my anime society liked trunks, smugpup (they call him shiny foxman), and they hated zamasu. There was some really loud obnoxious arab fat girl who really hated smug pup though, but everyone found her annoying, and she's the type who claims to be a guy, gets offended if you call her by a female pronoun and won't shut up about how much she hates furries and demands to be called something special i can't even remember what the fuck
>Against Broly there was no evidence they'd even gone into the Time Chamber yet unless I'm mistaken, it's been a long time.
Gohan achieved SS in the Time Chamber, and Gohan was a SS in the movie. Thus, it should be set after the Time Chamber, but before the Cell Games.
Vegeta wasn't going all out on Cabba but let's assume they were equal for the sake of the argument, then you could compare how well Fit Buu fought (and won) against a much stronger base Goku. (atleast 10x stronger than he was back at the u6 tournament, but it should be even more)
SSJ is of course a big multiplier but Vegeta showed that he held back on him when he straight up took a hit to the face without flinching at all and Goku didn't show signs of holding back, and it's also not in character for Goku to throw a fight.
The conclusion is that Buu is atleast stronger than base Cabba by a longshot and even if SSJ should give him the edge in power it might not be enough to beat Buu's hax and regeneration.
>make canon movies finally
>immediately retcon them
Oh for fucks sake Toriyama.
>Retconned by Toyotaro
Nope, Goku didn't absorbed SSG's power
>Retconned by Toyotaro
Who knows? Maybe SSG retcon was Toriyama's idea for the manga. Your point anyway? Manga is Toyotaro and Toriyama version.
Eh, the manga rushed over the BoGs adaptation, so I've always hesitated on saying that Goku got no boost there.
You've got stuff like Vegeta in Blue hitting Goku during their training and still have base Goku vs Hit. Even with the manga saying that Vegeta had only 10% of his power there, that 10 times difference should be nothing compared to the gap between base and SSB if Base Goku's power was still similar to what it was before BoGs.
Remember, in the movie itself, although Base Goku clearly got a big boost, it was never clear how big it was. In RoF, 1st form Freeza knocked out an unguarded Base Gohan, rather than 1st form Freeza easily torturing SSJ Gohan and then still being weaker than Base Goku in the 4th form.
Base Jelly-Vegeta (as strong as the regular Vegeta) bitchslapped SS3 Gotenks. Power scale is crazy in the anime, anyone can be god-tier now, Frost, Cabba, A-17, even SS Trunks is
>Maybe SSG retcon was Toriyama's idea for the manga.
As far as we know, it was only Toyotaro
The anime doesn't retcon this, and continues the movie continuity that Toriyama started. In Toyotaro's continuity, Saiyan Beyond God doesn't exist
>The anime doesn't retcon this, and continues the movie continuity that Toriyama started.
Nah, the anime changed stuff from the movies too, like saying post GoD SSJ 1 is just as strong as SSJ God, while in the movie even the boosted SSJ1 still was weaker than SSJ God.
>power level numbers reeeeeee
Taking RoF into account, I'd say they're above Freeza's 120 million, but they're below a billion. Put simply, their bases aren't going to do well in a fight with Perfect Cell.
He replied to a post that specifically said "in the manga".
Can we talk about how uninspired these Saiyan names are? Like, Broly for example is a name that unless you knew about Saiyan naming conventions you wouldn't know is based on Broccoli, but Caulifla and Kale are pretty self explanatory. Why couldn't they at least have names her Cauli, at least that sounds like a reasonable name, and Kale is just horrible if it is true and I don't even know what to change that to.
Vegeta didn't even fight him him when they were both Super Saiyans. In the manga he beats up base Cabba, lets Super Saiyan Cabba wail on him for a bit, then turned Blue and knocked him out.
>while in the movie even the boosted SSJ1 still was weaker than SSJ God.
SS God Goku was always weaker than Beerus. SS1 (Saiyan Beyond God) Goku didn't noticably do any different than SSG Goku. Except for that rage-boost at the very end, or whatever that was.
Beerus even comments on how Goku didn't lose his power, and called him a "true prodigy" for it.
I really hope we get a Cabba spinoff or at least one of those One Piece-esque arcs that last one full lenght year about him, maybe some big trouble in Universe 6. I really like his character and i think they can get far with him and even Vegeta said that he can also become super saiyan blue when they fought.
There are so much to be seen in universe 6, the King which Cabba said to Vegeta he was as strong as him, the saiyan squad Renso used to command, how they live, Cabba's squad, Vegeta dealing with the dream he always wanted but never had, Caulifa and Kale stories, the Salad's Saiyan culture, their past...
It would be a waste if Toei and Shueisha just skip them.
Nah, in the movie it's said that he kept part of his power - and then we see at the end that he power ups once he goes SSJ God again. In the anime, they changed that line to his power not changing at all and SSJ God was removed from the ending of the battle.
>faulconer even pulls of wacky gag music better than the Japanese
How will weebs ever recover?
>and SSJ God was removed from the ending of the battle
Possibly to make more sense of the scene
Like having Goku powering down from SSB in Re:RoF before getting sniped by Sorbet
>the manga rushed over the BoGs adaptation
Not an argument. Toyotaro could made Goku drop SSG in pic related and shot the Kamehameha in base/SS form without waste any panel or page. Goku didn't absorb the power is that simple
>You've got stuff like Vegeta in Blue hitting Goku during their training
Memes aside, he was holding back. He stated in the next page he just wanted a SSB fight, that's why he use a form so insanly strong as SSB is instead any other form.
>still have base Goku vs Hit
It didn't happened in the manga. It wasn't an actual fight, Hit was cocky and asked Goku to transform and Goku proven him he can simply surpass his time skip with tactic. As soon Hit realize Goku can fight him they start the actual fight (SS Goku vs Hit).
>it was never clear how big it was.
It was, though. He was as strong as his SSG. He didn't became weaker at all and Toriyama said Goku would never need go SSG again because he absorbed the power.
Goku>Fourth Form Freezer>First Form Freezer>SSJ Gohan>Ginyu>Tagoma="Gohan at his best">Gohan>Piccolo>Namek Freezer
I have Goku and Vegeta at Buu saga Vegito level in the same Form. They are clearly only God level when they use SSB but they also are much stronger than everyone else in Earth
We would be still at Battle of Gods after 100 episodes
>There are so much to be seen in universe 6, the King which Cabba said to Vegeta he was as strong as him
That seems to have come from Toei's writers though, and Super's main anime writer has changed since the Universe 6 tournament, which is probably why there has been no acknowledgement of that king in this arc.
>Kale is actually the youngest sister of both Samurai Saiyan and Caulifa
>Caulifla bullies her because she's a weakling but still tells Cabba to take her along just to fill the ten people quota
>Caulifla then gets BTFO by her sister turning out to be LSSJ
Calling this so hard
He said "maybe" you autist
>In Toyotaro's continuity, Saiyan Beyond God doesn't exist
Saiyan beyond god isn't in the anime either.
In movies Goku is just SSG in base form and he can't go SS, just SSGSS (because his base form is SSG-like). Same for Vegeta.
In the anime Goku became magically stronger regardless the form he use and Vegeta just trained a lot and then they go SSB.
I just want my Pride Troopers series man
So, if Kale is indeed the one who goes Broly mode, what power will Caulifla have that makes her a threat?
Looking back, mystic form was the biggest asspull in DBZ and I like how it was left completely unexplained.
All we know is that it has to do with Gohan's potential and it makes SSJ obsolete thus meaning it's way stronger. The Super writers are free to do whatever with it, they can even say it gave Gohan dormant god ki because Old Kai unlocked it and it would 100% make sense.
So do you think the form will be red? Because Goku god form from BoG trailers had blue energy but it's orange in the actual movie
The whole Buu Saga was one big asspull.
>goten just pops into existence after goku dies
>two kids can just go super saiyan for no reason, making the other characters even more useless
>they do a retarded dance and fuse, becoming stronger than frieza or super perfect cell without even going super saiyan
>they can go super saiyan 3 for some stupid reason, even though goku could only reach that form when he was dead, because he never ran out of energy
>for some reason goku and vegeta can go super saiyan 2 now for no reason as well, even though it was originally only something a half saiyan could do
>Heroes is hinting at the new form?
Yep the guys who revelated SSB first right
>Also I'm positive this form is related to kaioken, maybe perfectly combining SSB with kaioken instead of stacking them
I bet my ass it's a Toriyama's form (so canon, present in both versions) so it would be weird if Toriyama actually wants SSB + KK now
yeah lets turn dragon ball into powerpuff girls
>Toriyama: Yes, it turned out that way. I hated drawing little girls, so much so that I originally had intended Senbei to be the main character, but my editor really liked girls then, so he demanded I create a girl and I created Arale-chan, with a lot of dissatisfaction. And he looked at it and said “Hey, this one is better, make her the main character!” and I was thinking “WHAT?!?” And it ended up being a big hit and I was in shock.
Oh, you Time Patroller boys are so vigorous and straightforward.
He drew a sketch of him 20+ years ago
And he wasn't even a character he created. Broly was Toei's idea. Toriyama was given the basic idea of Broly, he sketched it, and then went back to working on his weekly shounen manga
>Play Dokkan battle for first time
>This nigga is one of my very first cards
>Great Ape pulls my ass out of the fire time and time again
wtf I love Tora now
Both his Jap and Eng voices match his physical intimidation.
He's bigger than an original xbox.
He was the first evil SSJ.
The Z-Fighters getting mauled by a big meathead is always great.
He's the first villain to use a crazy brawler/berserker style of fighting and not look like he's doing it due to inexperience. Garlic Jr. and Super 13 kinda did it and so did Frieza at 100% but Broly was the first to really go nuts with it.
His outgoing sadistic personality was also pretty great until they retroactively ruined it by making a him a retard and a pudding monster.