Which one would be the best mother for Shirou's children?

>>156698537
ATASHI SAKURANBOOOOOOOO

>>156698537
Illya.

>>156698537
Probably Rin since she doesn't have worms and I don't think servants could have children.

>>156698537
Would Saber's kids be half-Servant?
Would Sakura's kids be half-worm? :^)

MOU IKKAI

Saber murdered her own child, so she's out.

>>156698537
Saber's already a deadbeat dad
Rin would probably be the best
Sakura is fine too but runs the risk of still putting Shirou over her child

Rin probably, must bitchy of all but saber is a soldier and Sakura's mind is fucked beyond repair

>>156698537
How do I get into the fate series, should I watch fate/zero and them stay night ubw?

>>156698537
Sakura was made for birthing unbelievably large monstrosities

>>156699280
You should watch Zero, then 2006, then Prisma Illya, then Grand Order, then UBW.

>>156699280
Watch Prisma Illya, watch Tsukihime, then play Melty Blood and you should be good.

>>156699449
I heard 2006 was not necessary and isn't Prisma a spin off?

>>156699503
Bitch, are you correcting me?

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>>156698537
Saber would be a good parent (except for Mordred), but more of a father figure than a mother figure.
Rin would be far too strict and emotionally distant towards her children, only seeing them as tools for continuing the dreams of the Tohsakas.
Sakura would probably be the best at being a kind loving mother, but she'd also be clingy and unwilling to let her children become independent.

>>156698537
Probably the idealistic knight king over two bitch sluts

>>156698537
Saber father, Shirou mother.

Is there a right answer here? Seems like they'd all be pretty substandard mothers.
Would Shirou be a good dad? His only role models for fatherhood are Kerry and maybe Taiga's dad, or the monks that raised his gay friend.

>>156698960
>Rin would probably be the best

She's a mage. Mages are inherently bad parents.

>>156699751
Even without Kiritsugu's influence, Shirou barely functions as a human being on his own. And a child breaks the dynamic of a romance, so Shirou's normal compatibility with any one of the partners doesn't really matter.

>>156699280
Play the VN

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>>156698537
He only wants children with Sakura anon.

Sakura >>>> the world

Source: Shirou.

>>156699280
Read the VN (Nicoblog has a working DDL mirror that comes with the patch) -> Read/Watch Zero OR Read Hollow Ataraxia -> Read the other one > Whatever else you want.

>>156699704
>vant?
Besto doujin

>>156699280
Play Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya then Melty Blood

>>156699280
Just play Grand Order, best thing out of this series.

>>156698537
Rin, Saber is a NEET and Shirou is a better housewife than Sakura. Rin going out to earn money from old-men and Shirou staying at home taking care of the kids its the best option.

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>>156698537
Rin

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>>156698595
First post best post.

>>156699759
She ditched living up to that when they didn't jive with her nature.

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>>156699579
>Rin would be far too strict and emotionally distant towards her children, only seeing them as tools for continuing the dreams of the Tohsakas.

Where the fuck are you getting this from? You described Tokiomi, not Rin.

>>156700298
Dumb wormposter.

>>156698537
no saber

>>156701051
Rin's behavior in HF makes it pretty clear she doesn't know shit about how to treat family.

>>156701077
>denial

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>>156701117
That's her trying to follow life a magus. You saw the end result.

>>156701117
I mean, if my sibling was going to murder everyone I would kill them.

>>156698537
Definitely Saber, the other two just aren't good examples for children to learn from.

>>156701148
>worms

>>156698537
Best case scenario is Saber giving birth to the child and immediately pissing off to hero realm leaving Shirou as a single father.

>>156701300
yeah, denial

>>156701453
wyrms

>>156701437
Shirou won't truly be a single dad as long as Taiga's around. She seems like the type to treat it like it was her's no matter what.

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>>156701193
>yeah... sorry
Her changing her mind at the very last second doesn't excuse her spewing vitriol and death threats towards her little sister for days before that. That shit shouldn't be happening in the first place.

>>156701263
Rin openly wanting Sakura dead was one of the main reasons Sakura went insane in the first place, though. Sakura needed love, acceptance and help, not more abuse from one of her few potential allies in the world.

>>156701573
All I can think of is Taiga getting grilled by Illya at the end of HF. She'd probably still be a good adoptive mom, but even so.

>>156701573
Only because you have support of friends doesn't mean that you're not a single father anymore. Also who can actually imagine a womanchild like Taiga to be a mother?

>>156701587
>It's Rin's fault that Sakura went crazy!

Oh, silly me. I thought it was:
Being raped by worms for 10 years
Being raped by Shinji
Trying to keep an autistic senpai alive
The influence of the Grail
The very high chance of dying soon

But nah, she went crazy because big sis wasn't being nice that day. Thanks for the clarity.

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>>156702155
Those are part of it too, but shit like this certainly didn't help.

>>156702383
But she's already fucking crazy by that point.

>>156701077
>>156701300
>>156702155
>>156703200
Holy shit I'm on fire tonight

Assuming they have one boy and one girl, which girl would give Shirou the cutest children?

外国人は死ね！w

>>156699280

Watch Zero.

Based Kerry is SO cash.

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>>156703259
Wew

>>156703818
Rin and Saber.

>>156704329
As Rin and Sakura are siblings, they have virtually the same genetics, so that's not really saying anything.

>>156704505
Sakura's genetics are mixed with the matou and the purple hair and eye combo looks like shit.

>>156704666
I understood that as standard physical experimentation, not intracellular manipulation.

>>156704980
>intracellular manipulation.
He went as deep as changing her fucking element.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbaM-URygs

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>>156703259
Good work

>>156705054
That doesn't have anything to do with biology. Shirou got his changed from his near-death thing, and Avalon.

>>156705164
Alright but its in the VN that he changed her completely.

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>>156698693

>>156699280
Play the VN.

>>156699579
Anon the word is allegory.

>>156698537
All of them

>>156699704
who're the two looking through the door? taiga and caren?

>>156700298
Sakura can't have children, her uterus was eaten by worms.

>>156699503
You's gettin trolli'd boy. If you only want to watch no matter what, then you could just go Zero > UBW. Keep in mind the best you could do is read the VN then do Zero, then UBW. The DEEN adaptations are not necessary cos they kind of suck.

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>>156706631
>Zouken explicitly intended on using Sakura for breeding a heir
>durr she can't have children!
What is it with people and making up bullshit when it comes to Sakura?

>>156707416
Heh. Sakurafags litteraly made up and perpetuated memes to denigrate Saber and Rin, ie blacked and old men. I'll agree with you that there is no basis for that particular argument about Sakura though. If they wanted to mess with Sakurafags they should have went more along the lines of due to Sakura's actions Shirou either died or ended up a puppet the rest of his life and there is no information to lead us to believe that he'd be capable of even impregnating her at that point.

>>156698537
Shirou is best mother material

>>156707632
I'm sure someone could cobble together a "something something soul overwrites body something something semen as magical energy something something grail something and that's why they have children in my incontrovertible head canon"-type essay. Would probably take like half an hour.

>>156707632
>Sakurafags litteraly made up and perpetuated memes to denigrate Saber and Rin, ie blacked and old men
>source: Tohsaka's anus

>>156706601
this should be soon yeah?

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>>156707819
Well, when Rin returns at the end of the novel Sakura admits they've had to have sex literally every day all day just to keep Shirou alive. Seems like she should have gotten pregnant by then but maybe Nasu just didn't want to touch on that subject either way.

>>156707822
Oh, good. The next time Sakurafags bitch about Rinfags supposedly being the sole perpetrators of the Sakura hatebase as they've done for almost a decade now, I'll send them your way to set them straight.

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>mfw Wormfags actually think that after worms living in her womb for 10 years and later housing an eldritch monstrosity made from curses and Angry Manjew inside her ovaries and placenta could still be usable to have a child
>mfw Wormfags actually believe that this is something that has to be officially and explicitly stated

>>156708915
See >>156707416

>>156709104
See >>156708915

>>156709133
You don't get it, do you? Zouken intending on getting Sakura pregnant is far better bait than "lol shes infertile", and it's actually something that's stated in canon too.

The real question is would Mordred be a good Nee-san?

>>156709424
>constantly jealous and bitter about her sibling getting the attention and love she never did.
No.

>>156709310
>Zouken intending
No, you apparently dont get it. Zouken intended many things, most of which didn't turn out the way he hoped/thought/expected. Your wishful thinking is getting in the way of what really happened.
Her womb is more barren than the sahara.

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>>156709715
>Your wishful thinking is getting in the way of what really happened.
>outright ignores canon in favor of baseless headcanon

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>>156709789
I want prisma to pull some weird shenanigans and turn Rin and Luvia a decade younger. Not sure how they'd write it into the plot but I'd love to see loli Rin again. Seeing how they'd draw Luvia would be interesting too.

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>>156709789
>accuses others of ignoring canon
>does it himself

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>>156710720
>y-you too!

>>156698537
sakura would be the best mom, however saber and rin are more attractive and better partners

Caster is obviously the best mom. Whether she would get along with Shirou is another issue.

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>>156711048
This.

>>156709888
I just want Rin and Luvia to fuck. But that'll never happen.

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>>156711048
this>>>

>>156711189
delet this abberation

>>156701271
>He doesn't know about Mordred

>>156713140
she turned out alright - very cute

>>156699503
prisma is a loli sexuallizing spin off

>>156713140
To be fair, that was her mom's fault, not Saber's.

>>156713554
sabers autism helped, all mordred wanted was for dad to notice her

Biologically: sakura
personality: saber
Financially: rin

>>156713140
Saber wouldn't be under the extenuating conditions she was back then, she can afford to be human.

>>156698952
To be fair Mordred was trying to kill her first.
Also Mordred's mother was a complete nutcase, where Shirou is just a semi-nutcase

>>156701587
are you serious she never freaked out at the death threats in fact she stated multiple times that it was the right thing to do, you know what she freaked out about Rin?
The fact that Rin also had seen Shirou trying to jump over that bar a few years ago endlessly, that drove her nuts about how her precious memory which she though it was hers alone wasn's and she started to ramble about how her sister was stealing her memory and her senpai.

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>>156714706
>"Shirou. I'll kill her when the time comes. That's the best choice for both of us.
You think about it too."
>Her sister coldly says the words she does not want to hear to the last person she wants to hear them.
>…Her eyes are hot. She realizes that she's crying. Heartbroken and frustrated.
>Her sister is trying to turn her only ally against her.
>She's making him abandon Matou Sakura. She hates Tohsaka Rin for trying to induce him.
>"I won't die. It won't end up as Nee-san plans."If she is to be killed, she will rather [].
>Not only her older sister. She will be merciless, even to her Senpai.
>…Yes. If he will turn away from her in disgust, then she would rather… She would rather [] like she does in her nightmare.

>>156713683
Mordred always kept an helmet on, hid her identity and her mom birthed her in secret, it didn't matter how autistic Saber was she might have fucked up on being a king and on the lancelot situation, but in the Mordred case no one would have performed good no matter what.
That's the same as you knowing some guy a bit younger than you and he just speaks normally at you and one night you are walking home and the guy just appears in front of you knife in hand and goes "you bastard why didn't you loved since I'm your kid from a girl that sneaked some of your sperm and made me in a clinic?"

>>156711013

That is subjective.

Sakura has good discipline and work ethic, taking her archery team to nationals, finding her own mentor and being able to reform the damage done by Zouken to her potential as a magus, and finding her own aspirations. And all that with a past like hers and being the youngest of the cast.

Only a fool would think she wouldn't be a worthy partner when she was able to shoulder all that and come out relatively healthy.

But the biggest thing is that Ilya said in the post Taiga dojo omake that she was suitable to be by Shirou's side alongside Rin.

>>156715150

You forget right after she says those things she was fighting the fear inside her and coughed up black blood. The narrative was showing she was slipping at that point, but see a past interlude, where Zouken himself said he had to up the trolling because she was too strong mentally, and was holding back the mud because she held out hope. That was in the interlude, "Chess".

>>156715150
And then you have that part where she breaks down crying after Zouken tells Shirou she is the shadow (that if you chose to kill her Rider kills you instead) because she was breaking Shirou's determination and killing that boy that never gave up and when was determined into doing one thing he would do.
All of this after that conversation she had with Shirou where she asks him why he wouldn't kill him since it was the best for everyone..
It's from there that is born the part where Sakura orders Rider to become the ally of Shirou against Sakura rather than following Sakura alongside all other servants.

>>156698952
Bitch deserved to be cut. Your argument is invalid.

>Shirou has kids with Saber
>Demi Servant
>Next HGW
>Be Me
>Befriend Saber's kid without knowing they are a Servant
>Get dragged into the HGW because the friendship made them become Servant/Master combo
This shit could be the next big LN guys.
Question is, would the kid be more like EMIYA or Saber as a Demi Servant.

>>156700635
can i know the source of Rin please old men for money is it the VN ?

>>156717684
It's from a doujin.

>>156698537
the one who's actually alive and not full of instects I'd say

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>>156717684
Yes.

>>156698537
Unironically Rin. Sakura's kids would be faggot-ass insecure momma's boys and Saber's kids would be ostracized for being half-white.

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>>156699579
>Sakura would probably be the best at being a kind loving mother, but she'd also be clingy and unwilling to let her children become independent.

I see it the other way, since she had to make her own way, she would enforce independence. After all, being beholden to tradition fucked her over, but she would be ironclad with Shirou about educating the children on magecraft, but would encourage their input on it. Sure, she would be a hands on Mom, but if anything, she is more flexible of the heroines.

Sakura was the old time version of a Yamato Nadeshiko, the type that if need be, takes the bootstraps to the husband, but is diehard in maintaining the household.

The problem is that we have no idea what will be produced from a pair of freaks who've messed with their bodies and have strange shit, it's implied Sakura has some funky shit aftereffects of Angra Mainyu that she ignored because she is so focused on making sure Shirou is alright.

And hopefully the Association doesn't catch wind of that freak couple.

>>156698537
Me.

>>156718279
>pretending to be a girl on the internet

I though /a/ moved past this phase already?

>>156718367
But, I'm a girl.

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>>156718419
Me too. Wanna have a playdate?

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>>156698537
Saber.

>>156700298
Post more Sakura and Shirou please

>>156700732
Would Rin really be tsundere towards her child?

>>156718583
>sleeping with his daugher

Gross

>>156718583
Hair down Saber is a miracle

>>156718583
>tfw your daughter can grow but your wife cant

It depends, if Rin tries to enforce the magician stuff on her kid she's gona be a terrible mother she says it herself Mages are horrible parents, if not she's gonna be a good mother although she'll probably try to get their kids to be as perfect as she is at least to the outside.

Sakura well on one side she seems like out of the 3 she would be the best mother, but those dormant psychological issues might arise and in that case she will turn without a doubt into the worst one. Also it is questionable to how she will react if shirou ever puts their son ahead of her (normally parents prioritize sons over everyone even themselves), again those issues might arise.

Saber at first glace might look like the worse one for this, but I think she might be the best one, she never had a chance at normal life as a woman and the Mordred deal was everything but her fault. I actually see her being stern to the kid when needed as well as kind when needed both part of her experiences s a sort of saint king as well as her knight education whereas I can see mage mode Rin being too stern and non-mage Rin too soft and at best scenario Sakura also too soft (probably even more).

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Come for the tea

>>156718583
So if a Servant and Human had a kiddo, would it end up like Mashu? What would her stats as a Demi Servant look like?

>>156706678
Thanks, is the VN available on AB?
I can't find it.
Just can find Fate/EXTRA and Fate/EXTRA CCC

>>156711048
>the one female character with the worst track record of handling kids would be the best mother
Doubt.

>>156722931
it isnt her kids she kills in the TMverse, she never gets that fart with jason

>>156698537
Your mom.

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>>156698595
>Taiga's womb

>>156723033
>the one female character with the worst track record of handling kids would be the best mother
Doubt.

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>>156723168
>caster
>killed jasons wife, kids & everyone else at his wedding

by the standard of heroic spirits - its not even that bad (giles everything, herc killed HIS kids, cu killedhis son - as did saber...). just don't cheat and they'll be fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy_xbXIJ898
>9 years ago
Holy fuck.

>>156723278
I think you just committed a logical fallacy of relative privation.

>>156723278
>giles everything
Okay, so she's not as bad as the other child murderer.
>herc killed HIS kids
He didn't know they were his kids.
>cu killedhis son
He didn't know it was his son.
>as did saber
Because her child declared war on her and attacked her with intent to kill.

>>156724221
i agree that she did a bad thing - i disagree that she is the single worst servant with kids

>>156724311
>He didn't know it was his son.
and it wasn't her kids - they were jasons & the princesses's

>>156723168
In her defense when she killed her brother she was under the spell of Aphrodite and after all that she did for Jason he dumps her for some other girl, I think anyone would react like that or even worse. 80% of her life was shit the only exception was her childhood and the time she spent with Kuzuki and the later she was completly broken and Kuzuki also had his own issues that stopped both of them from telling each other they were fine with each other.

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>>156724561
this

>>156724456
>and it wasn't her kids - they were jasons & the princesses's
Why do you even point this out? Is it some sort of whataboutism? You're not making an argument to say that they're equivalent. You're being confusing.

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Some girls are ineligible due to PLEASING OLD MEN FOR MONEY

>>156698537
Rin is the only option that makes sense. The tomboy and worm out.

>>156724774
im saying that she just killed some other womans children - not her own. its not a point against her capability as a mother , its just a general evil action - so i dont think she "has the worst track record with kids"

>>156724456
>i disagree that she is the single worst servant with kids
Out of all the women to make an appearance in FSN she does have the worst track record with handling kids.

>>156724848
But evidently she does have it.

>>156724873
>worst track record with handling kids.
handling cheating maybe - but in terms of parenting we don't know, she never was one

>>156724951
I guess you could say she's completely disqualified at worst and absolutely unqualified at best.

>>156724935
all she did was burn down a wedding out of spite & anger, its still a evil action - but in terms of child murder she is probably behind rider and sakura (shadow)

>>156725035
>absolutely unqualified
as a mother? maybe - as a housewife in general? she has the skills

>>156725043
>she is probably behind rider
Name so much as a single child she killed. With alternate timelines accounted for, there's Shirou. An enemy on the battlefield. There's a world of difference.
>and sakura (shadow)
Shadow ≠ Sakura

>>156725312
didnt medusa kill an entire island? surely there were some kids there

>>156698537
Sakura is the only option and you all know it. Canon wife of Shirou and stuff.

>>156725115
What skills? She can't cook, she tries to push cleaning duty on her manservant, she lies to her husband, and so on. At best she's enthusiastic about improving herself, but enthusiasm is not a skill.

>>156725353
There is nothing to suggest that the Shapeless Isle was inhabited by anyone other than the Gorgon sisters. The place was located beyond all human civilization.

>>156698595
No nee-san incest allowed!

>>156723135
And what proof do you have that Taiga can't have kids?
It's not like anyone has tried to with her before.

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Rin

The Vainilla scene in Hollow Ataraxia is enough to convince me she would be the best mother and couple for Shiro. Everything else just want the EMIYA D, not his heart

>>156699280
download it. preferably from nyaa.

>>156698595
FPBP

>>156701117
HF? I'm new to the franchise

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>>156726757
You moster!

>>156726953
Heaven's Feels, Sakura's and last route of the VN. It close up the overall story. Movie the next year. Read the VN. Fuck off .

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>>156698537
shirou is the biggest faggot saber impregnates rin and sakura also it's canon she did it once

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>>156699704
PART 3 WHEN!?

>>156727398
as Carnival Phantasm proves the memes around fate are the best part of fate

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>>156727398
>grandpa
Even Shirou just wants to meet best boy who actually did nothing wrong.

>>156728426
I think he's calling Kerry grandpa, because that's what he would be if he were alive.

>>156728552
Holy shit anon, can't believe my interpretative skills fall short of a doujin. Thanks.

>>156727398
What an irresponsible guardian Taiga is.
Shirou has knocked up four women and all she cares about is her next meal.

>>156728857
hes old enough to kill people - he can be responsible for himself