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So, I know I'm like 5 years late. But this is really quite a good manga. I'm just wondering if my speculations are correct or not, and if we've gotten raws for volumes 17 and up, or chapters past 97.

Is Kazuya acting all differently, like being battle hungry and making really scary faces, due to the Kukuri's seal being released? Is that the original Kazuya personality, the one that made amasogi for fun? And is the one that all the girls fell in love with someone totally different that's gone now? Will Kyouka change Kazuya into more of an anti-hero since she has a dark, sadistic side too?

Azami's mourning dress was already transformed into an amasogi after the funeral, right? That's why Kazuya trying to turn it into an amasogi to train against didn't work, right? And why it was able to easily defeat and absorb Azami?

The dark spirit that infected Kanaka and cursed Kazuya with his extreme spiritual abilities was the god that Mayoiga killed, obviously. Is she supposed to be a major deity in Japanese mythology though? Or did being a curse for 1000 years just make it that strong?

Kyouka is only going to be a temporary partner to Kazuya, right? He already promised Kiriha that she'd be the only tsugumomo he'd use for as long as he lived, and her bits are still around. Since Kazuya has the ability to create tsugumomo, couldn't he just remake her by pouring in spiritual power to the remains?

And why do people like Flute so much? So far, all she's done is act tsun towards Kazuya, rape girls, and torture Kokuyou. Even Sunao is better.
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>>156690576
It's in his nature because of his innate talent.
I think she'll work against it, she might not survive that.

Amasogi are artificially created Tsukogami. Add enough malice and they become dangerous. I think the malice part is key.

Remenants of a spirit bearing a grudge producing malice for a millenium.

She might just die. Fix the strands with a microspope and restore the full cloth then inject spiritual energy. Might work since the parts are all still there.
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>>156690933
>Add enough malice and they become dangerous. I think the malice part is key.
But wasn't Azami purposely made without malice? But she still had that curse smoke emerging from her head when she slept.
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>>156690576
Most likely Flute will become a backup to Kiriha once Kiriha is inevitably revived like a mistress. Unless she goes mad with jealousy and has to be killed.
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I need the soundtrack to this anime, lads. That battle theme is delicious.
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>>156691828
I'm not sold on the anime yet. I need more fanservice.
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>>156691872
You mean
>Inexplicable light beams!
right?
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>>156691228
Azami is innocent. She is posessed by the cursed dress.

You have to remember, curse is neither good nor bad on it's own.
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>>156690576
>And why do people like Flute so much?
Water sports
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>>156690576
>And why do people like Flute so much?
Because she does what Kazuya won't.
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>>156692261
I wanted her as soon as that panel happened.
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>>156692297
So, since Kazuya and Sunao can both do it, does that mean they're the greatest living exorcists?

>>156692310
But Kazuya is starting to do it, just not to humans.
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>>156692415
kazuya cant do it at the moment
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>>156692415
>But Kazuya is starting to do it, just not to humans.
Not by choice he isn't.
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>>156692467
It was probably a special case with Kazuya and Kiriha, since they'd been together for so long. Sunao was with Kotetsu from a young age too. I really hope he can't do it with Kyouka for at least 100 chapters.
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>>156692415
>they're the greatest living exorcists?
By the standards of the Exorcist school, they're both ninth sigil, which is the highest rank possible. The strongest exorcists in the school are only 8th rank.

That's why Kazuya is kicking ass with his bare hands, he's several tiers better than almost everyone in the school.
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Why was Sunao demoted from chief love interest to joke stalker?
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What are the chances Tsugumomo ends before chapter 130?
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>>156692757
very low
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>>156692702
She doesn't know how to approach Kazuya after the mess at the shrine.

>>156692757
What's the latest chapter/volume? i remember the author wanted to finish by volume 20 but it's obvious he won't. Maybe 25.
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>>156692801
Didn't the author say during volume 14 or something that he was speeding up the story to get to the end?

We have an airing anime now. Assuming it takes 26 episodes to get through the Sunao arc, 26 to get through the Kanaka flashback, and then 26 to complete the finale after Kanaka inevitably breaks out of the time lock 2 years and 6 months early, we probably have 3 years or 36 chapters left.
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>>156692826
>author wanted to finish by volume 20 but it's obvious he won't. Maybe 25.
Why do all my favorite monthly authors want to end their series after 10 years? Kyouka doesn't have near enough development to replace Kiriha, Sunao and the other harem members have been nonexistent for years, and Kazuya is supposed to spend the next 3 years training. Why speed it up just to finish it?

I mean, I could see
>The 9 Masters Tournament is suddenly interrupted by Kanaka who escaped the hourglass super early
>Suddenly everyone has to team up and defeat her
>Kazuya delivers the finishing blow after distracting her with the pieces of Kiriha that he kept.
>Series ends with Kazuya enrolling as a student for a few years with Kyouka as his partner and the Counseling Club transferring schools.

But that would be lame.
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>>156692826
According to Senmanga may it live a while longer yet the latest chapter was 97.5.
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>>156693047
I don't think he will speed it up that much, it was just an estimate. He intended to finish the flashback in much less time, but he had to extend it (that's why the latter parts are a little rushed).

This is the final arc of Tsugumomo regardless, it's ending with Kanaka. Knowing when to end a series is very important.
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>>156693084
98 was supposed to come out March 25th, so we should be on 99 by now.
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>>156693143
>This is the final arc of Tsugumomo regardless,
Is it really the "final arc?" It's more like this is the Shippuden of Tsugumomo. The tournament is an arc in and of itself, after all.
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>>156693143
That said, keeping in mind how he's behind schedule, I was really surprised he decided to do a tournament, which is basically stalling. Wonder why he needed that.

It's going by fast, at least.
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>>156693201
In March was special chapter with Kiriha and Kukuri, 98 was released April 25th in nippon.
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>>156693259
It's been a good tournament arc, unlike Souma.

It seems like he really wants to draw out the story in detail, but that he felt that dragged things on early in the series. Now, maybe he's found a good balance and we'll get another 6-8 volumes before it ends, which would put us around 25-30.
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>>156693430
>which would put us around 25-30.
That was my estimate even during the flashback arc. Seems a good amount of pages to finish it.
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>>156693398
Did someone dump raws on /a/?
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>>156693523
For that you need someone to buy magazine and scan it. Or wait until digital ravs become available (after 10th).
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>>156693468
>>156693430
The first half was about 13 volumes, then we got Kanaka flashbacks for 3 volumes. If it keeps the same density but moves a little faster and skimps on the relationship building and character development, Tsugumomo should end with 30 volumes.

That said, the first 13 volumes were supposedly less than 1 year in-series. Either we get major time skips, Kanaka breaks out early, or the pacing is super rushed to get through all 3 years of training.
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>>156693577
Not even Korean scans?
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>>156693718
No.
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>>156693577
>>156693523
http://tsugumo.moe/tsugumomo-chapter-97-5-release/

Special chapter 0.
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>Facial
Cumming confirmed.
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>>156693953
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>>156690576
98 raw on Tuesday.
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Just as we had expected.
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What are the chances that Kagashi gets stripped and has sexual relations with Kazuya? The series actually seriously lacks blondes for a manga.
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>>156694757
He doesn't appear to want to rape either of them. Does he just have an adversarial stiffy for granny?
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>>156695032
>Tsugumomo
I thought he already did
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>>156694669
Next Tuesday?
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>>156694757
I wonder if he's raping them the way he rapes Granny? Kagashi is truly the worst girl, all she does is daterape people for this old geezer.
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>>156695234
yeah the digital raws come out on the 10th
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>>156695165
I'm pretty sure Ms. "I would fuck my brother in the middle of the sidewalk if he asked me right there" would look more despondent and less annoyed if she had her cherry taken by Madarai.
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Why did Kazuya pick Kyouko in the first place? Chikage is much stronger and is also a ginger like her, or he could've picked up Scissors and had a bro instead of a sex toy.
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>>156695296
Are they really related or was it some sort of bonding they had since they came from the same owner?
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>>156695312
>fighting with a real weapon
When has that worked in this entire series?
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>>156695370
That's being related for Tsukumogami, even moreso that they appeared at the same time and are thus fraternal twins.

>>156695296
I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to fuck her brother.
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>>156695312
>e could've picked up Scissors and had a bro instead of a sex toy
Like Kazuya wouldn't fuck the crap out of him too.
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>>156695312
Kyouko beat Kokuyou, so he knows she's strong. And she can break individual bones, so he can use her to control a fight better than he could with Kiriha's obi.

I hope he uses her to smash every bone in Madarai's body before anybody realizes what he's done.
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>>156695421
>I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to fuck her brother.
What the fuck? There's entire chapters devoted to Orb wanting Scissors. Did you forget Mirror's harassment and the board game?
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>>156695312
Kyouka has badass sound powers.
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>>156695391
Bow beat the fire god.

That spear user beat the tengu in that one crossover.

Shuriken beat a daruma.

Armor beat that one guy off-screen with the flower pot.
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>>156695505
All the girls in this series are sluts for being forced, and that was all mirror's doing. The board game even showed that he didn't consider her a love interest, but she knew who he did love and said it.
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>>156695537
They're literally all the same move, using the same flute. You just make a lot of noise.
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>>156695746
>You just slap people with cloth
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>>156695783
Cloth takes different shapes though, and can be used for attack and defence. With Flute, all Kazuya does is stand in place and blow.
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Can someone post some screencaps from Yoshikadu latest stream?
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>>156695931
You have literally never seen him fight with the Flute.
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>>156695312
>Why did Kazuya pick Kyouko in the first place?

Plot device? to make Kazuya learn to control his energy better. He was pretty shitty at it, and only Kyouka pointed it out.
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>>156690576

>I'm like 5 years late

I will make you a quickrundown about this manga:

1) it's a ecchi manga
2) it's a harem manga
3) it's a fighting manga with some plot

don't overanalize it. Just enjoy the lewds, support the artist and keep reading.
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>>156695978
But you see Flute fight. And Flute always summons the same flute, the Azure Vibration Flute.

Can she make other flutes? Like a Gold Hypnotic Flute or a Crimson Piercing Flute?
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>>156696155
We don't know. You've seen her offscreen Kokuyou, lose to Kazuya and break some doors.
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>>156695312
hes into water sports
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>>156696092
>don't overanalize it
These small elements can all build up on one another to culminate in a major reveal, one that could really affect the plot. Like in SZS, where we find out that Kafuka was a ghost all along and all the girls were organ recipients channeling her soul.
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>>156696482
Maybe he's excited by the prospect of finally being the dominant one over his tsugumomo?
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>>156696207
Yeah, and if she had other moves she'd probably have used them. She was a one-note character from the start.
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>>156695312
She has shark teeth. She is the hottest girl in the entire series.
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>>156696092
>Just enjoy the lewds, support the artist and keep reading.
It has a fine plot and good enough characterization to analyze it as much as you like.

>>156696589
By your logic Kiriha's entire moveset is limited to what she used in her first fight or two.
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>>156696555
Kyouka does have a lot of bondage scenes.
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>>156696628
Kiriha was different, she had a variety of moves for both attack and defense built around the shape and form of her obi.

Kyouka uses one flute to vibrate things. The focus of the vibration changes a bit, but

>1. Movement is limited
Kazuya will have a hard time moving around and dodging while also finding enough air to blow into the flute.

>2. Vibrations are easily countered
As we saw in the fight against Kazuya, you can break through and change the course of vibrations easily because they lack substance.

>3. Not enough non-lethal options
The only non-lethal technique we know that she uses is putting people to sleep, but Kazuya doesn't know how to do that. And if that's the only non-lethal move she has then it becomes easy to counter or set up situations where Kazuya can't be non-violent.

>4. Depends on esoteric skills
He has to learn to play a flute, it's not like learning origami.

>5. Ascension
What would it even look like? Would they become a walking wave of sound? Would he look like an organ man who ate the organ organ flute?
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>>156696868
Kiriha literally only used her obi to slap around or grab in her first fight. She showed a drill at the very end, but that's it. This is the lead girl we're talking about.
Basically, your conjecture is meaningless because Kyouka can pull whatever the fuck she wants out of her ass while training with Kazuya.
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She's so cute when she's scared. I want her to be bullied.
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>>156696868
we havent seen her fight with kazuya so you're literally basing it on nothing
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>>156696628
>>156696510

don't make this mistake OP, don't overaalize Tsugumomo.

Enjoy the ride
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>>156697016
If you only let your dick read tsugumomo, your brain will miss out on a lot.
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>>156697072

I am following the story, I just don't overanalize it.

It's not the fucking Catcher in the Rye or the Bible.

Don't overanalize it.
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>>156697247
It's deep enough to overanalyze as you like.
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Could Kiriha have faked her death the same way Azami did?
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>>156697335
yeah she was just pretending to get stabbed to death by kanaka
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>>156692297

I just love this picture.
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>>156697247
Could Jesus make a Tsugumomo of his cross?
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>>156696589
>one-note
heh
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>>156697335
There'd be no reason for her not to come back out after Kanaka was sealed.
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So what personal ability do you think Kiriha actually posesses? Everything we've seen from her have just been different applications of Fundamental abilities. And given how all of her moves were replicated by Chain-girl it's safe to say nobody, not even Crazed-Mom has ever utilized Kiriha to her full potential.
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>>156690933
>malice
found the animefag
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>>156697379
>>156697409
Azami took a long time to recover her spiritual power and take action, even though a portion of her fluttered around following Kazuya. Kiriha might simply be in hibernation in the shrine or something.
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>>156697657
all evidence points to kiriha being a bunch of scraps in a box
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>>156697638
Weren't her transformations personal abilities? They were based on her original form as an obi. The body wrapping was especially draining on Katsuya.
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>>156697638
Clearly her personal ability is to be cut up and resewn back together so she can stop being a bunch of scraps in a box.
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>>156697638
Kiriha didn't have any personal abilities. She was never able to develop them before being killed.
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>>156697827
>Weren't her transformations personal abilities?
Actually no. Since weaving was used by the Chain user I realized that everything we've seen from her was just the clone body fundamental ability, and then she manipulated the clones into the different forms.
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>>156697394

I doubt Jesus will do Kanchou to his disciples if they misbehave


>>156697293

ok, make mental gymnastics with an ecchi man. Whatever float your boat, man.
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>>156697648
Isn't it malison?
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>>156697918
Oh, that makes sense.
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Remember when Kazuya's school friends got pseudo-tsugumomo through the charms? What was that all about? It's like what Kubo was trying to do with Ichigo's friends only it still didn't go anywhere after being flashy.
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>>156695032
>>156695267
He probably sees them as objects only, otherwise his own tsugomo would have been raped already
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>>156698801
What is his tsugumo? Do we even know?
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>>156698830
tsukumogami is an object that acquires a spirit

tsugumomo is an object that someone cares for that gains sentience and has a personality like a human

an amasogi is the 'quick' version that is animistic and usually dangerous
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>>156698666
Those were just amasogi detectors that doubled as charms to protect from amasogi influence, they didn't have any power outside of that.
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>>156699161
And? We haven't seen anything to indicate what he uses.
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>>156698830
Oh I thought it was the girl he was always going around with
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>>156699453
She's an exorcist.
A rapecorsist.
She is the raper, not the rapee.
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>>156699502
GRANNY NO
WAKE UP
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>>156699176
Oh, so they could only summon their amasogi in the dreamworld?
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I was just rereading this and damn, Kyoka's design changed a ton from the first time she showed up during the Assassin's arc.
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>>156699522
Yeah. And that was only because Pillow added that to their charms, and even then it was a one time use thing.
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I'm just upset at how long he's been cockteasing us with Fox Mask's identity, it's been, what, two years since his introduction? And we still have no idea who he is.
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>>156699502
I feel like Granny wants this to happen just so she can make fun of Madarai's technique some more.
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>>156699628
its sunao
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>>156699696
>fox mask = wears a fox mask
>sunao = does not wear a fox mask

Therefore Sunao isn't fox mask. It's simple logic.
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>>156700024
>jealous around kazuya
>stalks kazuya
>her sword talks to her
>intact hymen
it couldnt be anyone else
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>>156700108
Your logic is flawed.
The simple fact that Sunao doesn't use a fox mask is enough to prove that.
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GRANNY IS MINE
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>Tsugumomo ends with all the girls being pregnant by Kazuya
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>>156699502
He could easily kill her there.
Clearly hes a good guy.
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>>156692297
EVERY FUCKING THREAD.

EVERY GOD DAMN FUCKING ONE.
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>>156696589
What a stupid hat.
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Wasn't there talk of a second crossover? The only one that I remember seeing was the beach one with the tengu.
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>>156699502
I don't remember this chapter. What volume?
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Remember that best girl is definitely coming back and this was not referring to Kyouka no way.
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>>156704282
yeah kanaka is definitely coming back
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>>156704655
She got FAT.
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>>156690933
No, Amasogi aren't artificially created. They're more like a freak disaster, which are still natural, when the curse home in on a specific disaster. Azami was actually completely artificial, and she's a tsugumomo.
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>>156695032
I remember there was a page of a younger Madarai looking wistfully at granny. I think he may have had a crush on her when they were younger.
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>>156697918
It's not like she could only do that with the clones. The main body could also fold itself into different shapes. Also, wasn't it mentioned that the clone bodies are weaker than the main body? Not sure if this is true or not.
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>>156703519
i remember there being talk about a maid dragon crossover or something. dunno if that was real or not.
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>>156706187
>Also, wasn't it mentioned that the clone bodies are weaker than the main body?
Yes, the benefit of substitute bodies are that they can regenerate even after being destroyed, but they don't have the same offense/defense as the original.
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>>156696092
Its not JUST an ecchi battle harem manga.
Its THE MOTHERFUCKING ecchi battle harem manga

You wont need to read any other one after this
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>>156697638
She smells nice, like sakuras.
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>>156699696
The tits are too big to be Sunao.
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>>156700108
What if it's not a sword in that cloth bag?
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>>156702098
No. No harem endings allowed in Japan. It'll be Kiriha and only Kiriha having his baby, and all the other girls are either lonely cakes or married to other boy characters.
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>>156703519
There is a second crossover, but it was never put into a volume.
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>>156704149
97.5, from February.

>>156703019
The hat gets straighter the more turned on she becomes.
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>>156690576
T
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>>156706647
Yoshi drew a chapter of maid dragon for the anthology I think, it even had a naked Lucoa.
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>>156710140
>naked Lucoa.
>Drawn by Yoshi
My dick needs this
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>>156693993
>Cumming confirmed
He has nutted on the girls at least 7 times that we know of in the series. Even got the D once.
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>>156695502
I hope he breaks Madarai's bones with his bare hands.
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>>156711176
>Even got the D once.
Fucking your gender-swapped dream self doesn't count.
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>>156709981
Someone needs to take responsibility.
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>>156711823
I hope Madarai will marry Grandma in the end (and otherwise will turn to be a really cool guy).
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>>156710032
97.5 is the porn mag chapter, that's not it.
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>>156713293
I'd call that one a unnumbered special chapter.
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>>156699696
He's probably seen an endless number of cooch before his memory was erased, it could be anyone.
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>>156712439
When it's 100% real it does
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>>156713378
Well, do you happen to have a link for it? I am not seeing it in the animango releases
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>>156713903
>Dream world
>Real
Pick one
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>>156713941
>can die in it
>can do everything you can do in reality and more
That's called real
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>>156713983
>Happens in a world that exists only in your consciousness.
>Normal rules of reality don't apply
>You will wake up from it eventually
Still a dream, Kazuya's Dream Hymen getting broken or him fucking his dream self don't matter. It all happened in his head. By your logic I've burned down an entire village because one time I dreamt I was a dragon here to fuck over Laketown.
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>>156713914
Don't mind >>156714018
Wrong thread. I'm fucking retarded.
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>>156700024
This.
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>>156713914
http://tsugumo.moe/tsugumomo-chapter-97-5-release/#comments
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>>156714131
I like how you ignored everything I just said.
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>>156714226
97.5 is the porn mag chapter, anon, that's not it.
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>>156714252
Being able to die in a dream world doesn't make it real. It makes it a lethal dream world. It's the Matrix all over again. There is a clear reality, and a clear constructed world. But nobody in the Matrix technically loses their virginity because their projected minds are just perceiving the activity, but their bodies never fullfull the act.

Everyone who never got unplugged lived and died a virgin.

Every.

Single

One

Of

Them.

Just think about that.
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>>156714306
Oh, I thought you were talking about the porn mag one. I think I saw it being posted in a thread some time ago. Give me some time to search the archives.
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>>156714306
Here it is. I knew I've seen it somewhere.
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155891993/#q155928382
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>>156714474
Man, thanks a lot. I tried looking for it with the filename but couldn't find it.
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>>156714344
Look m8 I'm not going to argue philosophy with you. It's simple.

Are you unable to tell the difference between where you are and what you think reality is? If no, then it's a reality.

Can you die where you are? If yes, then it's a reality.
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>>156714542
Real only to the senses, not to their bodies.
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>>156714542
>Are you unable to tell the difference between where you are and what you think reality is? If no, then it's a reality.
The dream chapters dealt with two scenarios
A) The pillow Asomagi: Everyone involved knew it was a dream. Since a distinction is made the dream world cannot be considered "reality".

B) A romp through Kazuya's memories: Dream Kazuya who tried to molest himsef is a subconscious figment. To him the harem scene is real, but to Granny, Pillow, and Kazuya they know it's also a dream. There is also no lack of distinction.

So by your own reasoning none of the dream stuff in Tsugumomo happens in reality. Ergo, Kazuya never got/received the D.

>Can you die where you are? If yes, then it's a reality.
Their body can die in reality as a result of stimulus from the dream world. That doesn't make the dream world "real" it just means there are consequenes for tying your consciousness to such an elaborate forgery of "reality".
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>>156714666
>>156714758
HIS GENDER BENT SELF GOT FUCKED AND NUTTED IN AND HE ORGASMED AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!
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>>156714907
Yes it happened, but it wasn't real. That's all I'm saying.
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>>156713049
I hope we get a flashback revealing that Madarai was the apprentice who was Granny's first time and he never knew.
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>>156715630
Nah, they're around the same age and Granny fucked someone younger from what it looked.
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>>156715832
Was there a flashback already?
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>>156716295
No but there was a bonus page in a tankobon when we saw them younger. In volume 18 I think.
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>>156709399

desu I agree with you

I doubt I could find an ecchi manga with this kind of fighting.

There could be better ecchi manga and better fighting manga but I won't find a weird mix like Tsugumomo.

Disciple Kenichi is fucking lame compared to this (in the fighting part and in the ecchi part)
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>>156716610
>Disciple Kenichi
So much wasted potential. Should have ended after they beat feather earring guy. When he solidified the relationship with Miu and was recognized as a capable martial artist that was everything the series promised.
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>>156697997
>I doubt Jesus will do Kanchou to his disciples if they misbehave
What could have been.
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>>156716815

>"THREE FINGER PUNISHMENT FROM THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT"
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>>156716459
Care to post raws?
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>>156717677
I don't have it, but I remember it got posted on a thread before so some anons should have it.
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how many Tsukumogami kazya can have ?
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>>156717773
Right now, 18 or 19. That doesn't mean he can fight with all of them.
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Can someone explain why Azami wants to kill Kazuya?
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>>156717962
She was fused with an amasogi that Kazuya created whose purpose was to kill him.
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>>156718015
> That's weeeeeird

I forgot that kid Kazuya was talking like Kanaka. Was that lost in translation? Or it's really something he lost with the whole memory seal just like his rapist nature?
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It's kind of awesome how almost nobody in this story did anything really wrong. Almost everyone is a victim of circumstance.
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>>156717773
19 without passing out that we've seen. Maybe more if Kiriha is still alive or he contacts with other Mayoiga
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>>156718076
And then comes Madarai and his faction.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if there ends up being some explanation looking at how Madarai acts very friendly with that woman tsugumomo.
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What's Kazuya going to do to Madurai in their fight?
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>>156718213
>very friendly with that woman tsugumomo.
Stop this meme, she's an exorcist.
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>>156718273
What? And she's not even participating in the tournament?
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>>156718213
>And then comes Madarai and his faction.
From their perspective I don't think they are completely in the wrong. I don't agree that sentient beings should be kept in bondage but keep in mind how Hierarchical Japanese mythology and society is. Gods stand above humans, Humans stand above animals. While Tsugumogami are definitely above animals, they are also less than humans, even depending on our contracts and existence to maintain their awareness.

I can see why the Enslave faction acts the way they do. In their minds Tsugumomo are just tools and creating relationships with them is just as odd as how people in our world get overly sentimental about their own belongings. A tool has no right to object, and no claim to equality and I can appreciate that stance. And looking at Sunao early on, it's very possible that members of the Enslave faction just believe that having such a bond can put your own tool.

But like the story says, people in general just go with whoever runs the paradigm, so things will change very quickly if Kazuya and his group win.
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>>156718311
Probably not combat oriented.
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>>156718362
Aren't Tsukumogami lesser gods?
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>>156718396
Not as far as I remember.
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>>156718189
>>156717773
18 but he barely can even move
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>>156718071
It's part of what the seal took away. See Op
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>>156718076
Mayoiga were straight up villains. Sunao did try to beat up Kazuya. Flute hurt Kokuyou.
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>>156718965
>Mayoiga were straight up villains
Wrong. They did bad things, but they were not villains.
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>>156718511
That's only because Kiriha is sucking out energy to be reborn.
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>>156718965
It was either dying or killing Kukuri. Unlike the Madarai faction being assholes for the heck of it they forced in a corner, and most of them weren't bad or anything.
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>>156719113
Hell the only reason they killed the first god in the first place was because it refused to help them when they pleaded.
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>>156719113
Also the plan was to make a new mayoiga where tsukkumogami could go live. It wasn't only for them to simply survive, look at how the leader became an immobile mummy for the sake of the others.
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>>156719228
Just like how ISIS only wanted to make a safe homeland for Moslems, right?
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>>156710140
Is this online somewhere? I think I saw him streaming this.
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>>156720784
It's probably in mag raws, though I don't know which ones.

Y'know, Tsugumomo lipids very good for a digital manga, especially compared to new Berserk and some of OPM.
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>>156720860
>It's probably in mag raws
Do those exist publicly? I don't think I've ever looked.
>>156710140
>Yoshi drew a chapter of maid dragon for the anthology
Guessing the raws would be a part of a maid dragon anthology then, not Tsugumomo?
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>>156721308
http://imgur.com/a/wwsXE
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>>156695312
To be fair, sound based attacks should be quite strong

>attacks at the speed of......sound
>conventional physical defenses doesn't work
>has many applications
>doesn't require much athletic ability to use
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>>156721622
Thanks anon. Out of curiosity where did you find it?
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>>156722564
I have no idea where I found it. I think I was reading a maid dragon thread and saw it, recognized the art and saved it.
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>>156714666
Your senses are the only things which tell you what reality is.
This isn't very high level philosophy so I don't see why you have problems with it.
How do you know that what you're perceiving right now is real? Your senses tell you it is.
There's no way to know if what you think is reality js a dream/simulation or not at any time.
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>>156721308
Mag raw availability depends on the popularity of the magazine and the digital publishing options it offers, but chances are good for finding mags within the last 3 years on sketchy blogs and forums.
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>>156721737
But Kazuya and Kanaka are entirely physical fighters. So the pairing is even less compatible.
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>>156724086
Any suggestions on places to look? Only place I used to know to look for raws was mado, but that's obviously out. I've been trying to find ヤングチャンピオン烈 for a couple of series if you have any suggestions.
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>>156721622
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>>156724534
Only thing I can suggesT, if you don't already use Dark, is Google.
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>>156720784
The anthology can be downloaded on a bunch of normal raw sharing website like manga-zone.
Well, his part is only 6 pages, so here you go:

https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/ujalxe.cbz
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>>156719936
The difference is, these Tsukumogami had every reason to distrust both the humans that would own them, and the Gods that would forsake them. Their efforts to create a sanctuary were malicious yes, but I don't get the comparison to ISIS. Or rather, I don't get why you are trying to shave away the shades of gray from this conflict.
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It's interesting to me that Kyouka is called a wild mare in that title page for chapter 91. Considering how it's used in Ballroom, she might actually become the main heroine.
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>>156726327
Gray doesn't excuse anything. Just because you have a noble purpose in your own mind doesn't make you not a villain.
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>>156690576
This is the blue Satania manga?
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>>156726529
How rude. Satania is much cuter than Kiriha.
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>>156726477
>Just because you have a noble purpose in your own mind doesn't make you not a villain.
True, but I would use antagonist rather than villain because I don't consider the whole of Mayoiga to be "evil". Aside from the Axe guys faction, the rest of Mayoiga were either non-combatants on the run, the few combatants who were willing to defend the territory, and the original offenders who were willing to do what they thought best. The latter group definitely made a morally black decision and I don't think anyone is trying to excuse them for it.

I can see where you are coming from comparing them to terrorists and were this not a work of fiction I wouldn't afford them any leniency on calling them unambiguous bad guys. But part of the story of Mayoiga is the acknowledgement that they were scarred by their ownership from humans, and the promise of later revival from the Gods, so they took their own fate into their hands and created both an intense curse, and a cascading series of events that caused Kazuya to become a Taboo child, Kanaka to become this vessel for the dead God's wrath, and even the destruction of Mayoiga at the hands of Kanaka and by extension the completion of the cycle of vengeance because the God got his revenge in the end.

If I just call them villains I'm missing the point of the narrative. There's a reason why House Tsugumomo appeared like a Monkish figure rather than just a monstrous individual. We're not supposed to take away from their actions that they are pure evil. But at the same time, when I talked about japanese hierarchy, Mayoiga was a group of rebels against the system. Their existence upset the natural order and that's why the system called for their deaths.

Making this situation one of "heroes" and "Villains" ignores the fact that from each camps perspective those labels are swapped. To try and dismiss that because people in real life do the same to terrible effect would be missing the point.
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Why do people call Granny, Granny?
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>>156728623
Ask pillow.
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>>156728623
She's a lot older than she looks.
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>>156721622
>Lucoa
>By Yoshi
Such a thing should not exist, and yet here it is. Fuck.
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>>156728623
Because she has lots of babies.

[Spoiler] What if hybrids like her are sterile and can't have children?[/spoiler]
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I love this series so much.
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>>156729176
I want another character with huge boobs to enter the harem, maybe the incense girl.
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>>156729391
No, we need more lolis now since Kukuri has regained her original form. Despite being dead for the time being.
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>>156728962
Dude she has a granddaughter.
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>>156726477
The fight for survival isn't villainous.
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>>156719158
According to Kukuri, she didn't refuse to help. She couldn't. There's a big difference.
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>>156727319
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>>156729176

BIG

ANIME

TITTIES
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>>156729956
That's true, but that's not how Mayoiga saw it. So they did what they had to to live.
Circumstances prevented the goddess from helping, and circumstances forced mayoiga to take her head.
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>>156704282
What is Shinobu seeing here? Who's the nineteenth?
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>>156690576
It's really great.
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>>156730052
It's still not very nice
>You can't help us so we'll FUCKING MURDER YOU
Imagine all the people that died because that goddess was purifying the curse at the time of great famine and chaos.
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>>156730070
Some say he was confused because he expected Kyouka to already be bound to Kazuya.
Others are saying he may have sensed Kiriha feeding of Kazuya's energy.

it could also be Azami.
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>>156730108
>It's still not very nice
The fight for survival isn't nice. I'm not saying they're nice. I'm saying they're victims of circumstance, and not really villains.
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>>156730114
Ah ok, that kinda clarify my own theories. Thanks.
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>>156730114
>Some say he was confused because he expected Kyouka to already be bound to Kazuya.
It's this. The ones that think he was talking about Kiriha are just desperately looking for hints of her revival.
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>>156729176
Wonder if we'll ever actually get to see one of those paizuris she keeps offering him.
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>>156730242
>immediately proceeds next chapter to claim that he peered into Kazuya's soul

Why would exactly he of all people be the one confused?
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>>156730242
Not necessarily. The confusion of scissorbro about his mistake is a hint in my opinion. I'd imagine that if the mayouga troop expected Kyouka to be bound to him at that point, they'd have understood his confusion, instead of just wondering why he miscounted.

But it's ambiguous so far.
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>>156730343
He went to talk with Kyouka because he knew she was the only one missing even though she was the only one that Kazuya asked to be his partner.
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>>156730454
I'm not asking why he went to talk with her. I'm asking why would someone who peered into Kazuya's mind miscalculate the connections he has?

I mean honestly I'm not even that big of a fan of her, and I personally root for his daughteru but it's obvious she's coming back. Especially since he still keeps her remains with him.
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>>156730580
>his daughteru
?
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>>156730857
azami
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>>156729651
That's not indicated anywhere in the story.
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>>156730021
Satania has an innocence that Kiriha didn't.
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>>156730580
Kiriha better not come back, except as an asagomi that Sunao has to kill.
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>>156731788
Kiriha will obviously come back and you can just go die in a fire.
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>>156730325
Wasn't there only one time she offered?
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>>156722793
>deep web
You all should fucking sudoku
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>>156732660
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>156724534
There are many pages dedicated to uploading raws, its easy to find them
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>>156730114
>He
Wait, Shinobu is a boy!?
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>>156733122
He hasn't been drawn naked so probably.
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>>156730357
>>156730343
>>156730580
>>156730454
Remember, Kyouka was the one that rescued all the Mayoiga tsugumomo. And Kazuya linked with all 18 of the ones that were there in one swoop; in chapter 91, Shinobu even says that linking with ALL 18 at once was what let them see into Kazuya's heart.

It's only natural to assume that Kazuya had linked with Kyouka since she was in human form, had rescued them, and still had access to her powers because none of them knew that she'd rejected Kazuya's ownership and was only getting injections of spirit power through SEX
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>>156732423
No. Kiriha coming back undoes a lot of character development that Kazuya has undergone, and would undercut the new main heroine too much.
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>>156732426
And to think, he started out not knowing how to draw fat tits.
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The author's pixiv?

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=2675549
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>>156733254
No it doesn't, and Kyouka isn't a heroine.
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>>156733356
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=57195254
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>>156733369
>Has replaced the heroine
>Is not the heroine
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>>156721622
Holy fuck
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>>156729176
alright, look where her hands are. His dick is fucking huge.
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>>156729176
God Kazuyas sister is so fucking hot.
Why does mangaka alwasy give the sister character such a lewd body if he aint gonna use it for shit
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>>156733122
We don't know really but considering he's been around for almost 50 chapters and he was never naked implies that he's a boy.
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>>156734124
But we've never seen Chikage the spear or the two athlete girls naked either.
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>>156734535
>But we've never seen Chikage the spear
Nigger, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>156735596
>That Azami
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Which girls so far(if any) weren't shown naked?
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>>156735862
Dice. I think.
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>>156735596
Wow, that was so unsexy I forgot all about it.
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>>156735862
Dice, the two athlete girls from the shoe arc, Kakashi the incense rapist, and the Enslave faction girls in the tournament.
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>>156733430
>http://mygamestudio.x.fc2.com/bukkake/
Now this is a very useful link.
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>>156734535
And if by athlete girls you mean both shoes.
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>>156735940
>unsexy
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Why is Flute so sexy with her upskirts revealing her panties so often? It's really weird after volumes of censored pussy.
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>>156735977
I want it.
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>>156736020
No, the two girls from that one school arc. The bisexual runner and the blondie.
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>>156736235
Oh, fair enough. Though we do have plenty of pantyshots from the blondie in loli form.
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>>156736235
And a kiss.
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>>156736409
So when will we see the last method of dispelling an asogami, murdering the summoner?
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>>156736549
Once Kazuya kills himself.
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>>156736549
Was there another mentioned? I remember the let the amasogi fulfill the wish, an exorcist destroys it and the summoner has a curse backlash, the summoner destroys it himself and no backlash. Altough I feel like I've seen somewhere about killing the summoner, can't remember right now.
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>>156736742
Would Kyouka or Sunao even allow that?
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I really like how Kiriha doesn't use any socks with her school shoes and such.
We really need more of this in series, it's such a niche fetish but absolutely God-tier none the less.
Clearly the best girl.
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>>156736817
Yeah, killing the summoner was one of the methods mentioned. But they also said it was a last resort.
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>>156737164
What

How is that even a fetish?
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>>156695421
>I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to fuck her brother.
your funny anon
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>>156737435
Get out, secondary.

It's a very niche fetish. Not for lightweights such as yourself.
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>>156736960
It's not like they can stop him if he really wants to go through with it.
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>>156737435
Feetfags are very special fellas.
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>>156737435
It's sweatfags.
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>>156737435
Would you look at that! How did you even get here, boy?
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>>156737467
Considering how she couldn't answer all those questions about sex and love without blushing, and how their relationship seemed unchanged after defeating the asogami, it's clear that what she answered wasn't who she liked but who her brother liked, and it wasn't her.
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>>156737504
They could totally stop him. Kyouka can use her intimate knowledge of him to possess him, Sunao can give him a reason to live babbies and a home to inherit and I'm sure the other harem members can do something if they ever reappear.
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>>156733369
That's what we said about her, and look what happened. The wild mare turned out to be the ultimate heroine and final boss.
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>>156737644
Actually it has nothing to do with sweat.

It's the simple beauty of getting to appreciate the full length of the legs and the top of the feet as this is immediately connected with the shoe in a harmonic state, as if both were merged as one.

Using any type of shoe while barefoot is something that is truly missing in anime or manga these days and completely inexcusable.
However the very moment any girl does this, she immediately becomes the best girl, no question about it.

It's something only true connoisseurs know how to appreciate.
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>>156721622
So I gave a amateur attempt at a translation of this.

I'm sure some of the Yoga moves are probably misspelled, so if so sorry about that. I also can't typeset right now.

It's also too many letters to post on it's own so here's a pastebin.

https://pastebin.com/GVG9DvBu
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How did Kyouka go from this...
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>>156737819
To this?
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>>156737848
To this?
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>>156737848
The dick.
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>>156737848
She changed her clothes.
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>>156737787
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>>156737902
Take a lesson, kid. I don't live forever.
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>>156737435
>How is that even a fetish?
Fucking newfags
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>>156737848
Why the buttons?
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>>156737164
>>156737787
Foot fetish is the most disgusting fetish out there. Even worse than traps.
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Gyaru exorcist/tsugumomo when?
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>>156738183
Never.
Gyaru is a dying trend in nipland.
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pillow > the universe
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>>156738398
Pillow a slut.
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>>156690576
Yeah you're mostly right about everything. Well, Kazuya is his mother's son, so rather than weird curse stuff or anything he just has her traits. As he's improved, he demonstrates more of her traits. He definitely is "different" now, however, from having remembered everything. Like, for instance, how calm he is around women (he's smooth, like his mother)

As for the god. It's just some god, I'm pretty sure. Nothing special.

I don't like Flute really. I like that she's a rapist, that's about it. Sunao is great.
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>>156692702
She was never chief love interest.

Not sure why she's a stalker now.
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>>156693047
Doing the same story for too long is always a very dangerous idea.
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Why was ascension suddenly made into the endgame technique of the manga? When Kazuya first used it, it felt like a relatively minor upgrade that atleast every veteran exorcist was able to do.
hell, he achieved it off screen.

But now it seems that no one else is able to do it. Not even Kanaka knew about it.

Is this the biggest plot-hole in the manga?
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>>156738494
That other guy is talking his ass.
Sunao hasnt showed off since the fight against Kanaka and she was badass, not a joke character.
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>>156693143
It's not the final arc. It's the final story "part", but this tourney and training arc aren't the last. There'll probably be another before they fight Kanaka, too
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>>156729176

Does the MC ever get circumcised
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>>156697638
This >>156709447
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>>156723453
>There's no way to know if what you think is reality js a dream/simulation or not at any time.
There is if you intentionally went into one, are aware you're in one, and then wake up.
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Why is there no faction at the temple who wants to use tsugumomos as stands?
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>>156739247
why would there be? You can't fuck stands.
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>>156739247
Because, as an immortal vampire, Araki was killed off by exorcists already
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>>156738455
>I like that she's a rapist, that's about it.
>Sunao is great.
Literally pleb. Flute will become a better person and eventually we, the readers, will be expected to forgive her for her evil.
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>>156738494
Sunao was always the chief love interest.

>Has parent's approval
>Similar abilities and career path
>Legitimately tsundere and not just a coward like Chisato
>Human and so can have lots of babies
>Yamato Nadeshiko
How can you dispute this?
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>>156738559
I hope there are at least 3 or 4 arcs before fighting Kanaka, and maybe 2 arcs after that. We're going to get at least an Exorcist school arc, I hope.
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>>156738575
They don't do that in Japan.

>>156739247
Isn't that most of the people who aren't pro or enslave?
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Screencap this.

The epilogue chapter will feature Kazuya and Kiriha's daughter training to be an exorcist with Kiriha as her tsugumomo and having skinship with her parents.
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The disappointment of the anime and love for the manga reminds me of Negima times.
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>>156739894
At least it's nice to see Kiriha animated. I'm watching it for her.
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>>156739894
Negima!? was actually a decent anime though. And it had the Evangeline shipping.

I've only watched 2 episodes of the anime so far and while it's not perfect it's acceptable. Waiting on fanservice.
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>>156740024
I dunno, I always found Kukuri more fappable.
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>>156739880
Close, they will have two kids and one will use the other as their tsugumomo.
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>>156739880
>>156740397

You are both wrong.

It will end with an adult Kazuya married to Sunao, with flute as mistress.

Kazuya will then obtain a pair of twin obi tsugumomo, who are Kiriha and Azami reborn.
The last scene will be Kazuya patting their heads, saying its been a long time since he's seen them. Mirroring the first scene of the manga.

Screencap this.
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>>156695421
Yes, of course she doesn't want to fuck her brother.
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>>156740969
>>156739880
>>156740397
You're all wrong.

It'll end with Kazuya being revealed as the master exorcist of his hometown, using Kiriha has his tsugumomo. And then he goes home to the shrine and it's revealed that a revived Kukuri uses her spatial distortion powers to create a huge mansion where his entire harem and all their kids live.
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>>156741065
That's just normal fantasizing because of what Minami did.
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>>156741065

Her brother is gay though, he hangs over the sword girl and never tries to make a move but then when he learns about Yakkun's ability to restore their energy, he's okay with him jacking him off.
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>>156721622

DUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEE

man, Yoshi has talent. I hope Tsugumomo (when it ends) doesn't turn into his last work
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>>156729176

it's a miracle MC is still virgin.

Getting blue balls by the cum rag is the worst.
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>>156732813
There are, none I've found that have retsu, or have kemokko zoo though. I only managed to find korean scans of chichichichi.
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>>156741383
I bet he'll continue Tsugumomo for 10 more years.

>>156741369
We already have someone gay for Kazuma, rememebr?
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>>156741424
But he's not a virgin.
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>>156738262
This makes me sad.
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>>156742345
dreams don't count
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>>156742293
Do you really want a 10-year long training arc?

My bet's on it ending on or before vol. 25, so 3 more years at the most.
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>>156697293

No you shouldn't deeply overanalize, that's dangerous and could lead to internal bleeding.

Don't overanalize it.
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>>156738575
He is not a jew so nope
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>>156741424
He has probably done just about everything other than actual sex so far. He even had dream world sex and dream genderbent sex if you want to count that. We know he gets jacked off constantly at the minimum.
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FYI Yoshi is streaming lewds.
Just don't be retarded and refrain from spamming the chat with english shit.
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>>156742611
I want a full 3 years of Kazuya at exorcist school building up relationships. The first 10 years of Tsugumomo were actually just a few months. From Spring to, at latest, Autumn. We've never even seen Winter.
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>>156743315
Where's teh stream?
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>>156744242
https://live.fc2.com/17356889
Just use google chrome to access it
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>>156744196
I'm sure we'll have plenty of time for that after he smashes MADarai to dust.
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Tfw we could possibly have cross threads with the Gabriel Dropout bros but we don't
>>156690576
I agree with basically everything you said OP
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>>156744305
People think that, but I'm pretty sure I've never actually seen a manga show an entire 3 years of school passing by, unless they use a lot of timeskips.

Rookies only covered 2 years, Negima covered 1 and a half school years, Chrome Shelled Regios only did 2 out of 6.
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>>156744565
But he has to attain the power to basically kill a god. No way he just skips to the actual fight Arc that quickly. I'd assume most of the training atc after the tourney ends will be him learning how to hot swap and utilize multiple Tsugumomo at once.
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>>156744633
>No way he just skips to the actual fight Arc that quickly
It's simple, he just regains Kiriha and it turns out they're super compatible against this enemy and so they cheat their way to victory.
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>>156744565
I just can't see the exorcist school being dragged out. The question is will there be something substantial following Kazuya 's training but before the final confrontation with Kanaka.
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>>156744805
The thing about the school is they're already the strongest there, are they not? What exactly does he even have to learn from them?
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>>156744904
How to use something other then fundamental attacks. That would seem to be the only thing they could teach him honestly.
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>>156744904
Yep, it's pretty clear Kazuya's one of the strongest there already.

Though he still needs to develop an ability to fight with multiple Tsugumomo, and unlock their fundamental/personal abilities or whatever. I think it's also likely he learns; at least in part, how to manipulate his natural power as a taboo child or how to exploit his connection with Kiriha and/or Azami.

None of this really is too substantial, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that this is meant to be a whole new beginning or something.
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>>156744292
Is it actually streaming?
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>>156742345

anon, it doesn't count as sex:

blowjobs
handjobs
titjobs
rimjobs
kisses
frottage
ballbusting

you have to penetrate and ideally cum (inside, outside or in a condom)
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>>156742611

>Do you really want a 10-year long training arc?

thank god I read this shit for the lewds and not for the plot.

I learned that with High School of Dead and Kamfer.
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>>156745826
>High School of Dead
Am I one of the few people on /a/ who actually enjoyed the plot of HoTD? Yeah it was by-the-books zombie horror but it was good zombie horror which is rare for manga, and at the time, rare for a lot of fiction since the genre has been beaten to death so much that it will never re-animate again.

Fucking R.I.P Daisuke.
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>>156745885
>Am I one of the few people on /a/ who actually enjoyed the plot of HoTD?

that's the reason why I stopped reading for the plot and I enjoy the ride.

I like the lewds and the plot is welcome but not necessary for the enjoyment.

never again anon, never again.

Be honest /a/, would you read Tsugumomo if it doesn't have ecchi at all? it could end like a boring seinen high school manga with MC getting magic powers and killing the last boss.
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>>156744292
Has the stream just been blank for the last 2 hours?
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>>156745981
>that's the reason why I stopped reading for the plot and I enjoy the ride.
But the ride comes from the plot from my perspective. Sure there is plenty of sexy violence, but without the characters being as spot on as they are, and the scenario being the right mix of desperate and hopeful I wouldn't care at all for it. It'd just be a zombie horror story with nice tits.

>Be honest /a/, would you read Tsugumomo if it doesn't have ecchi at all?
Absolutely yes. It would still be a generic starter up until the Mayoiga arc, then it gets into the meat that I've stuck around with for years.
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Can Kyouka just possess Kazuya whenever she wants?
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>>156746119

>Absolutely yes

nah, I know you are talking out of your ass. No one will follow this manga if it doesn't have the lewds. People won't even bother reading it at all. I have to admit though, that you need talent to mix lewds with a defined plot. That's mostly the reason why Tsugumomo is good, the author is good at mixing both.
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>>156746263
>nah, I know you are talking out of your ass. No one will follow this manga if it doesn't have the lewds
I'm one of the anons who complains when there is too much fanservice and lewds taking away from story moments. Over the months here I have been called faggot and such whenever I make that observation. Trust me when I say while I appreciate Yoshi's desire to show every girl in his series nude, there are moments when I could do without it. And if there were no nudes, I would still have stuck with this series because of how good the plot and art are.
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>>156746410

Tsugumomo is lewds and plot. Take out the lewds you will get a broken manga without soul.

I won't call you a faggot, but to be honest, no one will read it if it wasn't for the high impact sexual violence it has. The fighting scenes are great though.

Also, why do you think the anime flop so bad? The animation quality was part to blame, it was the censorship that took away one important part of the manga.
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I have no idea what he's saying, but he said Blu-Ray and DVD so I'm assuming someone asked about uncensoring?
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Wow, Shioiori looked so gentle but in the panels she looks grim.
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>>156746548
>Take out the lewds you will get a broken manga without soul.
>no one will read it if it wasn't for the high impact sexual violence it has
We'll never know if that's true. You are invested in the lewd. I am not. I might view the series as improved without it. Now that doesn't mean that I'm against nudity in the series. I just don't like how we'll be cruising along the expositon and characterization train when we pull the drag chute on the plot so that we can oggle some more tits in a way that breaks the sequence of events.

I'm genuinely invested in the rather straightforward conflict that has been presented to us. I thought the story really stepped up from it MOTW formula of the school arcs, and once we got into Mayoiga the series both narratively, and artistically, evolved into something that I could really enjoy. The tits are an occasional strawberry on this cake I'm eating, but sometimes I don't want strawberries on my cake.

I assure you that I'm one of the people reading this that came for the art and stayed for the plot

>Also, why do you think the anime flop so bad?
I don't know I haven't watched it. As a general rule if I read a manga and it gets an anime. I don't watch it. I've just learned that 9/10 times the anime is just a glorified commercial for the manga, and the studio phones in a good production. Animation might be off of simplified from the manga style. Voices don't match what I've already established in my head. Events may be cut or padded out. Any number of things can happen to make me just not mesh well with the animation.

If I do watch an anime, I would prefer the anime comes out after the manga is finished but that would defeat the purpose most of these types of productions are built on. And aside from FMA: Brotherhood I can't really think of a manga -> anime series that did this. And there are exceptions where I think the animation perfectly captures the spirit of the original like Baccano did so it's not an iron-clad rule.
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>>156746732
Didn't they already smash the flower pot last chapter? Why does she have another one?
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>>156746548
And take out the action and you would have the same problem.

It's the plot and action that gives the manga its "soul", anon. You've got it completely reversed. The lewds are amazing entertainment, but the main draw has always been the fight scenes.
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>>156746838
Maybe there were multiple pots in Mayoiga? Or her actual Tsugumomo is a flower pot?
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>>156746664
Probably asking if the specials will be included in BD. they've cut out 90% of the actual lewd so far.
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>>156745765


Wait, When did he receive blowjobs?
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>>156748805
Hasn't been shown anywhere, but kiriha sure is open about getting him off. His sister most likely blew him first though before he could even cum.
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>>156744486
I don't want to talk to those tasteless retards.
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>>156744486
Why? Both series have nothing to do with each other apart from a VA.
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>>156751758
Isn't that all they need?
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>>156754312
For shitposters, yes. Which is why I'm hoping, even if in vain, they don't do it more than it's being already done.
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>>156690576
Have the translations caught up? What chapter is it now in Japan?
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>>156695312
I wanna know this too because it's such a different weapon compared to Kiriha's obi. One is active while the other is static as fuck.
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>>156754540
99. We are like 3 chapters behind counting specials.
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>>156754660
To make Kazuya embrace his dark side. Remember how Kyouka makes a murderer's face when she first fought Kazuya? Now Kazuya is making those scary faces when he thinks about the Mayoiga tsugumomo being enslaved to death.

The two will feed off the darkness in each other's hearts and Kazuya will end up becoming a bigger threat than his mother after he beats her.
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>>156754660
Maybe he just figured that he knew Kyouka at least a little bit and she helped him and Granny out so she was a good person at heart? He knew nothing about the other Mayoiga tsugumomo except for scissors and mirror, and one's a boy and the other's a slave.
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>>156754540
We are an entire tank behind.
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>>156755417
Isn't that only in HQ scans though?
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>>156725497
great googly moogly. Yoshikazu really loves drawing people staring at pussy.
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>>156754540
Waiting on digital raws for 99 (out on the 10th, paper mag came out last week). Just about everything else has a link at the tsugumo.moe page. Only thing missing at least a quick & dirty TS is the omake from v.18.
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>>156755623
We're waiting for 98. 99 is next month.
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>>156755623
What was the volume 18 omake? Did raws get posted? I tried looking through Desuarchive but I didn't see it.
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>>156755417
From what I'm seeing we are actually up to where the raws are at though? 98 hasn't even come out right?

Also is the release for this series sporadic or something? Or did the author take a break?
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>>156755777
Correct. 98 is the one that just hit newsstands (I goofed before), the digital version comes out the 10th, should be a live TL not long after, hopefully TS to follow.

(Grousing about whiners deleted.)
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>>156755777
Monthly release. Paper out every 25th, digital every 10th of the following month. Author did take a break on February because of the anime, I think.
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>>156755777
And yes, Hamada took a month off while the anime production was hitting peak hype.
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>>156755777
Used to be biweekly but the author is lazy.
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>>156755774
Extra ecchi bodyswap between Kazuya and Kyouka. Raws and liveTL were with the ch. 93 TL thread; never got a TS that I've been able to find. (desuarchive link to post in thread: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/147948144/#147958671)

(Hope that link works right.)
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>>156755941
If it was biweekly, that was early when it was in a web publication; it's been monthly since it went into Gekkan Action.

Hamada is a machine.
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>>156748805
That's probably from the chapter when Kiriha and Kukuri had a flashlight under Kazuya's blanket while he was asleep. (Can't remember which chapter it was atm.)
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>>156746854
>And take out the action and you would have the same problem.

did I said that you can take the action without problem? Tsugumomo is a mixbag of many things. The author intentionally or unintentionally get a balance with them.

Take one of them and Tsugumomo is no more.

>>156746797
>You are invested in the lewd

No, lewd is part of it. You just want to take out the lewd to justify making the manga more than what it is. It's not. Just enjoy it and don't fixate too much in purifying an ecchi manga.

It's not your wife, it's entertainment.
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are we still at the tournament arc?
shit's boring
all these boring ass characters that I don't give a shit about
I hope everyone dies
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>>156756728
>Just enjoy it and don't fixate too much in purifying an ecchi manga.
Nobody wants to purify it. But if you took out the tits I wouldn't stop reading because my investment doesn't revolve around the fanservice elements. There is substance beyond what you are implying and it sounds like we just approach this story from differing perspectives based on how we choose to enjoy media. I can enjoy this series for what it is, but it's not as shallow an experience as you are taking it to be. And I like my cheesecake as much as anyone else, but I appreciate it when Yoshi holds back for serious moments like Kanaka showing up during the summit.
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I liked the early chapter fanservice more than the full body fanservice in every chapter now.
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>>156738536
Every exorcist he thought seriously up until that point.
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>>156757546
At least the tournament arc is going quickly.
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You would think Kyouka would be overpowered as fuck and could instant win any battle against any one who wasn't aware of her ability. She could just use sound frequencies to affect her opponent's inner ear balance and that would be the end of the match really. Hard to fight when everything is spinning and you're vomiting.
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>>156757785
>>156738536
It was a little weird. You'd think that the highest ranking exorcists would be able to do it, and technically they can, but there are literally none of them around. All the teachers are 8th-tier. But somehow, Kazuya and Sunao, kids, can reach 9th-tier after a few short months of training.
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>>156758772
Sunao has been training since her brother died when she was a little girl, the only thing that prevents you from using Ascension is the level of trust between the tsugumomo and the user. Because you are both completely giving yourself over to the other. So Kazuya being able to do it with Kiriha was a no brainer since he had a connection with her essentially from birth, and once Sunao got the stick out of her ass regarding Kotetsu it was the same thing.
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>>156758947
Why couldn't Kanaka do it though? She even fucked Kiriha.
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>>156759156
Basically, she's so OP that she didn't ever need to.
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>>156758772
From what I saw, Ascension is actually pretty shitty. It makes your body move with the reaction speed and power of the tsugumomo, but Kazuya and Sunao just used fundamental abilities the entire time right? Weaving the obi and cutting shit?
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>>156759322
>she's so OP that she didn't ever need to
I think this might be true. I have not seen any mention of ascension in her story. If it is mentioned, I missed it.
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>>156758751
Eh. Could be a matter of conception. She's from the past, you know, and it's not like she'd have all that many opportunities being cooped up at Mayoiga to learn these kinds of things. Maybe Kazuya could do something like that while wielding her. That's a thought.
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>>156759592
I'm pretty sure Sunao doesn't use fundamental abilities at all, but personal abilities with those empowered slashes and flying cuts. Her "secret sword arts", you know. Those are supernatural feats, after all, based on the characteristics of a sword.
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>>156758751
>>156759809
It seems like she used to be able to knock people out, without using the Azure Vibration Flute. It makes me wonder if she has other flutes she can summon to do other things so long as the user is skilled.

Also, how did some random-ass bandit manage to use her to knock out travelers?
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>>156759809
>opportunities being cooped up at Mayoiga to learn these kinds of things.
Yeah, remember how Kazuya used modern soundproofing design to negate her attack?

Kyouka is fucked if they ever go up against another opponent that can manipulate their shape like that. Oh, wait. I guess Kiriha has to come back after all. Kyouka will be destroyed by Azami.
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>>156759943
Those are personal abilities? But transforming an obi into different shapes isn't?
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>>156759642
She never knew how to do ascension. She learned about it watching Kazuya and Kiriha through Azami's eyes.
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Regarding the confusion over the number of tsugumomo that Kazuya is supporting, it seems like Shinobu sensed 19 of them which is why they were confused.

So that 19th one is Kiriha or Azami.
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>>156759156
>>156759322
>>156759642
Nah, she only learned Ascension from watching Sunao. She said that's the reason why her rematch with Kukuri was different; because she learned Ascension.

At any rate, Kanaka likely never opened herself up to Kiriha completely. She was always an "emotionless" person, after all. Probably, the only reason she was able to perform Ascension with "Azami" is because they both want the same thing: the total destruction of everything around them. Kanaka to get her jollies, and "Azami" because of the dead god's grudge. Also, like what that one anon said, Kanaka was probably never forced to even try anything like an Ascension.

>>156760048
Origami. If you can fold, then you can fold it. That's why I'm not telling you "cutting" is a personal ability. Just because a pillow tsugumomo can't cut, that doesn't mean it's a personal ability of a sword tsugumomo. All tsugumomo with blades can naturally cut, and if the tsugumomo can form a blade, then it can also cut (such as the case with Kiriha being folded to form sharp edges).

Kiriha being able to transform into different shapes? She's not transforming, but folding because she's malleable. See the chain tsugumomo, which shows us that any tsugumomo that's malleable in shape can copy these same techniques. Perhaps that mud-shaping tsugumomo could have done the same things?

Sunao's sword techniques are done by storing energy in the sword, thereby allowing her to swing fast enough to, say, cut away a giant, blazing fireball. So faster slashing rate and shockwaves of energy. So definitely personal abilities. Personal abilities are essentially supernatural feats beyond merely manipulating the physical form.
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>>156760371
Kazuya never did name Azami, yes. She may be possessed, but her ownership was never passed down to Kanaka.
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New chapter when?
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Figured I'd try since no one did this yet. I'm shit at leveling/cleaning in general though so that's probably off. Should I bother to do the rest?
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>>156762136
Read the thread.
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>>156762158
It's fine by me. Feel free to continue.
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>>156762158
Yes please, I wanted that omake.

In fact if you dump the raw I can clean them and then you can type.
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>>156762158
Wait, no one TS this yet?
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ETA on chapter 98?
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>>156763756
I just got the raw from the thread linked here. https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/147948144/#147958671 If you want to clean them that would make i easier. As mentioned I'm shit at cleaning. Leveling especially probably due to being colorblind.
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>>156764016
This is what I can do really fast
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>>156763888
Read the damn thread.
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>>156764387
YOSHIKADU IS AN ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>156764290
Tried cleaning one out of curiosity, seems like mine are turning out too bright.
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>>156764387
HE WILL NOT BE A KEK
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>is another kazuya gets raped while gender bent
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>>156737819
>>156737848
to this
>>156764250
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>>156764356
>>156764290
>>156764250
>>156764177
that seems really overdone especially on the blacks to me.
>>156762158
first one loses a lot less grays.
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>>156764387
I'm tired of this dynamic now.
I get it, Flute becomes a maniacal rapist when she's in Kazuya's body. This has been done like 4 times now.
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>>156764599
It's only been twice, dude.

The first during the training when she tried to fuck the ponytail girl and the old gag

The second time during that omake.

That's all
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>>156764599
It actually does it's job of explaining just how pent up kazuya is and yet how he as a mind of steel for keeping it in his pants. It seems like flute is only so much of a rapist in his body because that's how strong his body wants to fuck.
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>>156765027
And yet he can barely resist molestation and turns into a blushing maiden.
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>>156765104
He does that in his boy form too. He's weak to being attacked. He lets himself get molested to a certain point than stops it before it goes to far. None of the girls in his house push it past whatever he sets his limit at
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>>156765027
Which chapter was that already?
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>>156765288
Christ, do you guys even read the thread you post in.

anon is cleaning/translating the recent bodyswap omake. For raw see >>156764016
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>>156757546
>Murata OPMfag whining about a long, boring tournament arc with boring characters nobody gives a shit about
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>>156696999
>she sees your dick
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>>156765768
It's too bad she's already seen Kazuya's dick. If he could keep bullying her by whipping it out that'd be great. I hope we get more pissing out of her.
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Flute is such a horn dog. The need to just figure out how to turn her into a futa.
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>>156767122
Don't you mean a Fluta?
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>You will never be a cursed child with the ability to create tsugumomos out of your most prized possessions.

>Your computer will never spontaneously sublime into a waifu that knows everything about you
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>tfw that old jade statue will never turn into a qt chinese warrior girl that speaks ye' old english and calls you "sire".
Life is suffering.
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>>156767198
Clever.
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>>156767213
>the NSA hacks you're waifu's precious backdoor
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>>156768465
>Implying my waifu wouldn't hack the NSA instead and expand her powers
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>>156767213
>You will never be a cursed child with the ability to create tsugumomos out of your most prized possessions.
Kazuya can only speed make asomagi. You don't want to make skynet coming after you.
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>>156768465
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>>156769150
>Kazuya can only speed make asomagi.
Maybe you should not speed read anon.
He can speed making Tsugumomo, which is what Azami is.
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The quality really dropped after episode 2. What a shame
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>>156769671
Well excuse me for forgetting that detail.
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>>156769852
It's kind of a big one.
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>>156762158
Ganbatte, anon.
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>>156769852
>>156770360
Azami isn't a real tsugumomo though. She emits curse even before she gets possessed, and she was artificially created.
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>>156770360
>>156771019
So the question I have is this. Is Azami a true Tsugumomo, or just a more complex Asamogi? Her existence is very unique, but I don't think Kid Kazuya insisting that she's a tsugumomo is a guarantee of her true nature.
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>>156771597
>>156771019
she is a true tsugumomo
she was just made using a directionless curse instead of gathering spiritual power normally
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New chapter when?
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>>156771792
couple of days
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>>156771792
Next Tuesday or Wednesday for raws.
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>>156771816
>>156771868
Thank God, i want to see the siblings fight.
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>>156771919
They have already fought. That's chapter 97.
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>>156771919
What? That's already over.
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>>156771597
Based on her behavior and origin, she is a true Tsugumomo. She emits curse because Kanaka transferred the grudge to Kazuya, who transferred it to her.
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>>156771967
>>156771972
What? But they didn't finish it.
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>>156772025
Sorry but, this looks like an end to me.
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>>156772025
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>>156772025
they did
he lost badly
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>>156772025
the brother got drilled and his statue exploded, anon.
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>>156772073
>>156772077
granny a cute
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>>156770984
Well, apparently my non system HDD is dying. I wont be able to finish. Ordered a new one which should be here soon. If it's not done by the time I fix my shit I'll be glad to finish it. Can't photoshop on a phone.
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>>156772073
>>156772077
>>156772087
>>156772096
Oh right, i completely forgot this.
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>>156772190
Welcome to three months ago.
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>>156769671
You are speedreading too.

Amasogi are Tsukogami in the first place. Just fueled mainly by malice (curse).
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>>156772584
Duh. But she is a tsukumogami and a tsugumomo, not an amasogi.
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>>156771019
Azami is a true Tsukogami.

Amasogi are Tsukogami that run on malice.
Tsukogami run on care of the weak collected care over hundreds of years (if the owners are not spiritually strong enough).
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>>156772651
You're confusing Tsukumogami with Tsugumomo.

Both Amasogi and Tsugumomo are Tsukumogami.
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>>156772628
>Duh. But she is a tsukumogami and a tsugumomo, not an amasogi.

Wtf is a Tsugumomo?

>Tsukumogami (付喪神 or つくも神[note 1]?, lit. "tool kami") are tools in Japanese folklore that have acquired a spirit.

All Amasogi are Tsukogami in this story. Some Tsukogami were born via the Amasogi-route and run on malice (curse).

Azami by herself is a Tsukogami created without a true name in a fast way, similar but distinct to Amasogi in that he just pumped her full of spiritual energy without (!) curse.

Azami got corrupted by the Amasogi Kazuya created from a dress that harbored the gods curse.

I wonder if the "I have not given you a true name."-Loophole is still open.
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>>156772714
http://tsugumomo.wikia.com/wiki/Tsugumomo

Reading up on it.

Azami is a Tsukogami in any case.

But does not fulfill the Tsugumomo thing of being created over many years of care for the object. Though I guess one could call that accelerated creation of a Tsugumomo.
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>>156772906
Read the first couple chapters, speed weed. Or hell, the TITLE OF THE MANGA.

>>156773025
Of course she's a Tsukumogami.
She's also a tsugumomo. All Kazuya did was speed up the process of sublimation.
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>>156773086
>All Kazuya did was speed up the process of sublimation.
The problem I have with calling her a true Tsugumomo is that one of her primary components for creation was still cursed power. I think she has the sentience and abilities of a normal tsugumomo, but ultimately she is a type of half breed or incomplete one.
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>>156773359
Cursed power IS what makes tsugumomo. Curse is the force in nature that grants wishes, the mysterious power. All Kazuya has is an unusually large concentration of it, so he can speed up the process immensely.
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>>156773688
>Cursed power IS what makes tsugumomo. C
I thought curse power differentiated from spiritual power. Which is like hers power is more volatile but create quicker results, where spiritual energy takes longer to create more stable results.
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>>156773989
its just spiritual power

peoples desires and malevolence is what creates amasogi from it

its why he can support many tsugumomos at the same time
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>>156774143
>its just spiritual power
That's not the impression I get. Curse is an natural phenomenon, native the the world itself. While Spiritual Energy is an internal power source created by Gods and Humans. The creation of a Tsugumomo is the result of fragments of human spiritual energy and even the essence of their souls imprinting on an object over a period of time. Curses however can be more infectious and given it's nature as based on human desires, far more volatile.

The reason why asamogi are able to be made depends on the density of the curse in a region and the will of the person/people affecting the local curse concentration.
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>>156774527
The way that page describes it is "mana". Fitting.

Curse sounds bad due to the name, but in the end it's not really much different from spiritual energy. Both are likely what create Tsukumogami, the only difference is that for Amasogi, it happens quickly due to high curse concentration and powerful, single-minded ambition or desire.

A Tsugumomo over time will of course absorb curse, since it's everywhere.
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>>156774672
>A Tsugumomo over time will of course absorb curse, since it's everywhere.
I can accept this. It's not the terminology I have a problem with, it's questioning the source of creation. From the same chapter it's stated that humans take in curse naturally, this can obviously be seen as the true component for the creation of a Tsukumogami but due to the low concentration and more "honest" feelings it creates a more stable effect. Azami is just unfortunate because even though she was a more stable creation, her rushed creation and arguably Kazuya's unique nature created a weakness in her that was more easily exploited by the asamogi.
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>>156775047
What weakness? She was exploited by a powerful god-level curse that took over Kanaka in an instant as well. Nothing about Asami suggests she was anything but a completely normal tsugumomo. "Artificial" maybe, but no different.
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