New Big 3

who's the guy on the left?

>>156586316
MC of Black Clover.

One Piece and the Naruto's.

>>156586316
New big hit

can anyone tell me their honest opinions on black clover
is it really deserving of being part of the big 3?

>>156586256
Who is the right one?

>>156586256
>One Piece
>New

>>156586585
Anime by studio perriot will boost manga sales to million

>>156586585
Its not bad I can see why people like it. However I feel stuff just happens and doesn't deserve most of what hype it gets.

>>156586585
How about you read it

>>156586640
One Piece is the last anchor series. Oda's not allowed to die or stop making One Piece until at least 1 series gets almost as popular as it.

>>156586955
Nothing will ever get close. One Piece is just that far dominating.

>>156586955
it will never happen

Is Black Clover the new Toriko?

>>156587133
No it new naruto

>>156586585
It's terrible

>>156587181
No it new Berserk

>>156586256
Modern Shonen misses a more mature protagonist like Ichigo to appeal to teenagers.

The current line up is filled with kids. Not a good idea.

>Nigger Clover

At least it's better than Bleach, I guess.

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>>156586256
>Viz
It's actually just a big 2 now.

>>156587256
Dragonball start that trend with kid goku in original dragonball

I speed read through Blech and Nurutu so I could follow /a/ discussions but I've literally never seen a Black Clover thread here. Is it a jap only series in terms of popularity?

>>156586256

Does Jump even know how to properly market a series anymore?

BnHA got big on its own after its mild push, but you can tell Jump is really expecting to put money on BC. At least it hasn't gotten the Toriko treatment.

>>156587303
It really isn't.

At least Bleach had a good intro arc. BC's intro arc was literally Fairy Tail.

>>156587431
Most people here hate it

>>156587431

There are occasionally BC threads, usually there is a least one when Jump drops. A lot of people here only read it ironically, but it seems they have dropped down a lot.

>Astra's face is actually more obnoxious and punchable than Luffy's

How the fuck is this even possible?

What happened to Shokugeki?

>>156587256
>Modern Shonen misses a more mature protagonist like Ichigo to appeal to teenagers

Ichigo is a teenager you dumbfuck

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I miss Ichigo and Naruto.

>>156587256
Bleach is pure cancer and Ichigo is a retarded gary stu.

Meliodas is a thousand times more mature and better written.

>>156586256
>Deku

I hate how MHA is being shoehorned into the big 3.

For the first 100 chapters, I felt that the manga was so successful due to doing things differently - the impeding death of OFA being the main source of narrative tension.

Then nothing happened. "Hey guys, the fight with AFO is over let's go back home."

... I guess in a way MHA really has become a standard Shonen now. Maybe I was wrong, and it DOES deserve to be in that position.

>>156587588
its not big three material

Gintama done yet?

>>156586256
The Big 3 is a meme with little connection to reality, it should die.

>>156587256
>Ichigo
>mature

Holy fuck, you might have grown older over the years, but your IQ shrank.

>>156587609
You just watch boruto so far naruto not death yet

>>156587674
I think it's wrapping up later this year.

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>>156586256
>Black Clover
Naruto ripoff

>My Hero Academia
Another Naruto knockoff

>One Piece
>The only good one

Jesus, how much lower can the bar be set Shonen Jump? I miss when original manga became the big 3.

>Couldn't use Haiyukuu
>Couldn't use Assassination Classroom

Bleach was better than EITHER Black Clover and My Hero Academia

>>156587303
>>156587626

Bleach was a MILLION times better than either MHA or Black Clover

>>156586585
Black Clover is a terrible series that is a knockoff of Naruto. It needs to die

>>156587477
Bleach had 4 good arcs, and two bad arcs

Soul Society > Pre Reaper > 1000 Year Blood War > Arrancar Hueco Mundo

Fake Karakura Town War and Fullbring were the bad ones.

>>156586585
I enjoy it since it is a fun comic.
I find it hilarious that Japanese children and teenagers read manga as a source of entertainment while bitter old western basement dwellers believe them to be a source of self insert and escapism and get buttblasted that their cheap ass aren't being catered to.

>>156586256
Now if only One Piece would die and make room for something actually good.

>>156586256
Why is the left one looks like Naruto?

>>156586585
Its horrible cliche shit, takes the worst parts from Naruto, Fairy Tail and Nantsu no Taizai

>>156586256
WSJ quality going down the shitter.

>fairytail clone,and some capshit manga that is only a thing cause hollywood is doing capshit era.

>>156587328
In Japan, Haikyu sells nearly double HeroAca's numbers and ranks just as well too so I'm not sure why Deku's bigger than Hinata here.

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>>156587824
In another 10 year

>>156586256
where's boruto

>>156587824
Wouldn't make any difference since something actually good dies just to be replaced with something that's actually good.

>>156586256
>Black Clover

Absolutely disgusting. This is a mix between Naruto and Fairy Tail and manages to be even worse than both combined.

If anything Shokugeki no Soma would've deserved that spot.

>>156587879
I TRIED to like My Hero Academia, but it was too much like Naruto to a point of just rehashing the plot and a number of characters. It's sad, but it's true.

There is a difference between what MHA did with it's 'inspiration" from Naruto and how Bleach tried to get away from as many Yu Yu Hakusho cliches (Demons, Underworld (Hell), Tournament Arcs, etc)

>>156587860
Because it not battle shonen manga

There will never be a new Bleach chapter again.

Ever.

Is Togashi working again?

>>156588010
There is still the second novel to be translated. Plus the anime crew said they want to work on the 1000 Year Blood War. Plus there is that CC2 CEO twitter post that got taken down because TV Tokyo blabbed about it.

>>156588068
Maybe after black clover anime end

>>156587956
Anon what are you reading because everything you just said is completly wrong

>>156587859
MHA isn't capeshit. Capeshit follows a very specific formula. Protagonist gets super powers, must find ancient artifact, must defeat a former friend turned villain, must save the love interest hostage, then leaves the door open for a sequel.

>>156588022
>Togashi
>Working in 2008+9
Anon...

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>neither black clover or boku no hero will have an arc as good as SS

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>>156586835
>studio perriot

>>156588152
I'm reading Naruto 2015 because that is what MHA is. Just another Naruto clone. Bleach got away from ALOT of what Yu Yu Hakusho did.

>>156586256
It's honestly refreshing not seeing Ichigo or Naruto on there anymore.

>>156587956
That plain wrong becase deku still have parents

>>156588197
You are implying that even MHA or Black Clover could even have an arc as good as Arrancar: Hueco Mundo, 1000 Year Blood War or Pre-Reaper arc dude. Hell, even Fake Karakura Town War was better than those two and that was one of the BAD arcs of Bleach

>>156588112
So in 10 years?

>>156586585
Worse than Fairy tail and naruto combined. Also, BCfags are desperate samefaggers.

>>156588270
One difference in a pool of the same rehashed storyline and many characters that are Naruto.

>>156586256
black clover: new naruto
meme academia: naruto for hipsters
wan piss: shit as always

>>156586585
Black Clover is okay. It is a little rushed to be honest with you, but aside from that its okay.

Decent story, characters, villains. Its a 7/10.

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>>156588392
>Decent story, characters, villains. Its a 7/10.

I can't even find the words to properly respond to this utter nonsense.

>>156588441
He's a desperate BC samefag.

>>156588441
I respect your opinion. Black Clover is a meh to decent, man. Its does have cliches, which it does a lot, but whatever cliches are fine too for entertainment.

You don't like it. You don't like it. That's alright man. Overall thoguh Black Clover isn't super bad nor is it super good. Is it a bit rushed and could take itself a lot slower though to flesh more things out.

>>156586585
It's shit but not worse than the other two, at least it doesn't have that tryhard smell to it.
Read it only if you're extremely bored and want to kill some time.

I thought DBSuper became super popular in japan? Not considered a part of the equation?

>new big 3 is literally Naruto, Capeshit Naruto and a neverending trainwreck
We need another YYH to fix this shit magazine.

>>156588636
We're talking about WSJ manga.

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>>156587248

>>156588197
>>156588280
>Bleach got so bad that MHA was outselling it after 2 years

Is there a fanbase more sad than Bleachfags?

>>156586256
Why can't it be like the 3 big JRPG? FF, DQ and SMT. Something for every type of people. Easy going (DQ), Dark and edgy (SMT) somewhere in between (FF). Why are the trinity of anime and manga is the same shit make by different people?

>>156588914
>MHA
>Outselling Bleach

Dude, the average sales of MHA was 200,000 in the first week. Bleach's final arc was selling 450,000 to 500,000 copies in the first week.

In fact, the final volume of Bleach sold 250,000 in the first week where MHA only sold 200,000 copies. The only time MHA sold better than Bleach was that one time thanks to the anime.

Stop being delusional MHAfag.

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>>156588914
What does that have to do with the fact that neither BC and boku no hero will ever have an arc as good as SS?

>>156588990
No, SMT got outbeaten by Persona.

It's now Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Persona.

SMT got shoved to the corner in 4th place. ESPECIALLY given how Persona 5 has done.

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>>156588197

>>156588990
Fuck off, FF sucks since Amano stopped doing the designs, DQ is hit-or-miss and the only great SMT game is SJ which was overshadowed by that waifufaggotry spin-off.

>>156586585

It's derivative, generic shit..

I mean it's stuff that works, but there isn't a creative bone in its body. Most people don't know about this, but the author behind Fairy Tail did a ton of series almost exactly like Black Clover, over and over again with them bombing and getting cancelled, until finally, one hit (which was FT). It's nearly identical in structure and theme to one of those failed series.

Presumably it's only popular because a new generation of kids are reading SJ who didn't experience the earlier shonen series when they were new and fresh, and that's totally fine.

>>156589116
>SMT got outbeaten by Persona
Blame Fatlus putting the new games on DS and 3DS. Consoles got every spin-off after Nocturne because Nintendo had to get the new SMT games.

>>156588656
YYH was overrated trash with a rushed ending

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>>156587466

What the fuck even happened with Toriko.

Why was it pushed so aggressively? Anyone with an outside perspective could see it wasn't marketable and had none of the factors that lead to the popularity of other series.

I mean they killed off Double Arts and Mx0, but Toriko gets more PR management than Justin Bieber's fledgling career.

Was the author the son of a rich employee there, or some bullshit?

>>156589355
No, it's because SMT started to greatly wane. They even tried to promote the SMT name through Persona 3 and Persona 4 in America. It just lost steam.

>>156589397
Mangaka is good friends with Oda.

>>156588208
Perriot is actually an amazing studio though. They just get stuck with shonen series that they have to make filler for.

>>156587256
>mature protagonist like Ichigo
I think you're confused. Do you think that brooding equates to maturity? You might be retarded.

>>156589359
But it saved Jump from bankruptcy and raised the bar for "teens beating the shit out of each other" manga.

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Name a more iconic betrayal.

>>156589397
Toriko ended?

>>156588208
How does that invalidate anything he said? Naruto was animated by Pierrot and it blew up worldwide.

>>156587017
Imagine if Togashi got miraculously cured and be got a lot of energy that he feels should be dedicated to HxH.

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>>156586256
>reverse search image
>twitter, tweeted by @forneverworld

wew lad

anyway, actual big 3 from Jump latest issue

>>156586585
>Fantasy world where superpowers are prevalent
>Guy with no power has abnormally high Friendship, Effort, and Victory
>Wants to be the _______ King
>Gets power through plot device
>It's an anti-power that cancels out other powers
>The adventure begins!

You tell me.

>>156590002
It does have one plot twist,
>the Sasuke of this story isn't a douche.

>>156586256
nah.

There will never be another big 3. Black clover is shit and hero academia is too trope-y and a bit blander than it deserves to be.

These are Fake big ones, they are trying to make their properties bigger than what they actually are because they know they currently have nothing besides one piece. Not that one piece is anything but amazing, but they are probably extremely afraid they will have nothing after it ends and are trying to estabilish something as BIG every so often.

They did the same for Toriko as well.

>>156590002
Switch "King" with "Hero" and "Cancel power" with "Super strength" and you have my hero academia.

>>156587328
>Gintama, Food Wars, Boruto all out sell BC
>BC is bigger on the cover

What do they mean by this

>>156590200
>they currently have nothing besides one piece
HxH does great whenever a chapter/volume is released. Shokugeki/Haikyuu/Hero Academia all sell well.

>>156590002
so, its basically raildex except the touma actually wants to be at the top?

>>156589977
>2 of the Big 3 are fujo series
Are you guys ready for the age of fujo?

>>156590293
>HxH
I even forget it exists, I wonder why that is...

Shokugeki and Haikyuu are good, but they dont fit the kind of shounen that the original big 3 were supposed to be. they are a bit niche due to their focuses

>>156590228
At the very least super strength is in line with the world building. Most anti-powers in battle manga are just

>Build extensive IP with intricate fictional rules
>MC has the power to ignore everything we just established
>Oh... but, uh, it comes with an edgy drawback where he vaguely coughs blood or something, shit I dunno

But I don't disagree that Deku is just on his way to be the Hero King. I read BnHA mostly because I think the art is fantastic. Its story and pacing are a mess.

>>156590293
Eh, I think you underestimate how big of an impact One Piece has on the sales of other WSJ titles. Everything pretty much dries up without it.

>>156590504
>I think you underestimate how big of an impact One Piece has on the sales of other WSJ titles
I don't. I know how much one OP volumes sells, and no other series even comes close except for maybe HXH since I'm pretty sure the last HXH volume sold over a million.

>>156587609
I just miss Naruto

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>>156586585
Its fun, but also generic (painfully so sometimes)
I started reading it after reading a chapter posted on /a/ which outright copied the shonen parody GiF to the point it had me in stiches

>>156590497
But asta have Ki and anti magic it unique

My shitty manga is less shitty than yours, the thread.

>>156590567
No, I'm not comparing sales figures. I'm saying that I have no idea what WSJ would do right now without One Piece. People are buying it to read OP and they get exposed to other series they learn to like, but none of those are big enough to carry WSJ, which means that you couldn't have as much success introducing new series, and the whole thing could just die.

>>156586446
kek

>>156589909
If no more dragon quest game

>>156586256
You mean the big one and the kiddos

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>>156590839
Yeah one piece is big one but story is just the same as about friendship like this manga

>>156586256
my sides

>>156591023
One Piece is about dictatorship and quest of freedom.

>>156591075
His sides.

>>156586256
BnHA has some potential, but it really needs to figure out some stuff fast. It's never going to have the polish and consistency of OP, so it really needs to work on making its hero cast more of actual characters.

It probably has the best chance so far of any small series in the past few years to become Big 3, but it's not even close yet.

>>156591097
Pretty much all shonen battle manga are about freedom too

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>>156586585
Yes

>>156591023
>BECAUSE HE HAS FRIENDS!!

>>156591023
It's kinda hard to follow in OPs shadow when Oda is so good at making these kinda scenes so iconic. Everything that comes after just feels a little like a ripoff.

>>156590386
>Are you guys ready for the age of fujo?
A glorious age is upon us,god bless.

>>156589583
When Griffith betrayed the Hawks at the Eclipse.

>>156591303
This is the most compelling argument I've seen and the only one that has made me consider actually reading BC.

>>156591543
I'm talking about shounen.

>>156591627
Should've said that before.

>>156589069
That your opinion isn't fact? Nor is it one shared by many people. I mean using Bleach as a comparison is the stupidiest thing you can possibly do because nobody is going to defend it nowadays and SS arc isn't even good
>>156589063
>Bleach's final arc was selling 450,000 to 500,000 copies in the first week.
Bleach 73 306,008
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Also first week sales doesn't really matter since total volume sales shows MHA selling more than it all throughout its final arc

>>156589583
You first

I thought World Trigger was bigger than Black Clover and MHA

>>156592214
World Trigger is actually good so it will never be bigger then either of those.

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>>156589063
>Dude, the average sales of MHA was 200,000 in the first week. Bleach's final arc was selling 450,000 to 500,000 copies in the first week.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-09/japanese-comic-ranking-october-31-november-6/.108651
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-13/japanese-comic-ranking-july-4-10/.104276
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-09/japanese-comic-ranking-october-31-november-6/.108651

I honestly feel bad for Bleachfags. Has there ever been a manga that fell harder than it?

>>156591272
>BnHA has some potential, but it really needs to figure out some stuff fast.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>156586585
its good but not great, its not really bad or anything just not particularly great

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>>156589069
Well for one thing SS isn't a good arc. Its essentially the cast going around in circles to a foreign land to rescue a friend and then fight boring battles along the way with a really poorly done TWEEST that came out of Kubo's ass..i.e. its like every arc of Bleach. Its praised mostly cause of nostalgia.

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>>156592117
>SS arc isn't even good

>>156592488
Yes its not a very good arc Bleachfag. Glad you agree

>>156592173
I did.

>>156592298>>156592117


You linked like the last three volumes.

I said that the AVERAGE final arc sales in Bleach was 450,000 to 500,000.

And if you read, I said that the final volume of Bleach sold 250,000 compared to MHA which only sold around 200,000

Let's recall that Bleach's final arc consisted of volumes 55-74. That's 20 volumes. The fact that you could only link 3 volumes (last three btw) and didn't even link the other 17 volumes.

Also, first week sales are important for manga sales. You are just butthurt over the fact that Bleach still did better than MHA given how your first link proved what I JUST said about MHA still selling less than Bleach.

>>156592488
Its just a shittier version of Sanctuary arc

>>156592512
SS is great though. I think every arc in Bleach had top-tier moments desu.

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>>156592512
No, you are delusional MHAfag who just trolls. Even you last volume still proved that Bleach could still outsell your precious MHA. And let's recall that that volume was the All for One vs All Might fight.

>>156586585
Yeah it's the best parts of naruto and fairy tail although it is a little cliche it's the good kind.

>>156587776
>AssClass
It went from ok to actual ass

>>156592538
>I said that the AVERAGE final arc sales in Bleach was 450,000 to 500,000.
No you said AVERAGE FIRST WEEK>>156589063
> Bleach's final arc was selling 450,000 to 500,000 copies in the first week.
>in the first week
>in the first week
>in the first week

Which is a lie anyways since Most Bleach volumes during the final volume couldn't crack 500k until the last volume

>Also, first week sales are important for manga sales.
No it ain't.

> You are just butthurt over the fact that Bleach still did better than MHA given how your first link proved what I JUST said about MHA still selling less than Bleach.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-30/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-volume-2016/.109353
>All volumes of MHA have higher sales than all volumes of Bleach

WHELP

>>156588215
MHA is not Naruto at all.

It's not shit for one thing. All you faggots keep pushing the naruto narrative when it's not. Trying to push that Baku is sauceke. Or the other stupid shit you try to shill.

Naruto literally was a ripoff of dbz mixed with cancer.

MHA is shonen mixed with cape shit with FUN added. Now go wash your head out with buckshot

>>156592630
>Even you last volume still proved that Bleach could still outsell your precious MHA
Total sales in that volume was higher than te last volume of Bleach

Why do people think black clover is bad?

>>156588845
>random hybrid power up

every time kek

>>156592727
It's trying to be One Piece a lot more than Naruto.

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>>156586585
Black Clover is a fun story that doesn't take itself seriously while keeping a straight face about it which really piss off a lot of butt hurt fuckers

Read it because you'll know have a good time reading, the characters are enjoyable, and the cheese cake is amazing


No really though it is fucking funny how some anons on here get so butt hurt over Black Clover

>>156586585
It feels like the author is making a parody of WSJ manga. It's trite, and cliche as fuck.

>>156592723
You are just trying to twist my words.

FIRST WEEK of sales in Bleach's Final Arc was around 450,000 to 500,000 per first week. There are 20 volumes spanning 4 years.

My Hero Academia only outsold Bleach ONCE because of the anime. I JUST said that. Learn to read and understand WHAT I wrote stupid MHAfag.

You clearly are butthurt over the fact that MHA will never gain any real popularity because it's still in the shadow of Naruto.

>>156592780
Those total sales aren't anywhere as big of a deal given how initial first week sales basically are what keep the manga going.

This isn't like video games where the yearly sales are what makes the money.

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What's with all the fighting in the thread?

>Haikyuu
>not part of the big 3
are you guys retarded?

>>156592793

Dunno. /a/ seemed to hype MHA here. Though the concept of MHA having capeshit stuff just seemed more interesting than what BC had which seemed pretty generic.

>>156592939
It's some MHAfag who can't accept that his manga is a rippoff of Naruto and is trying to throw Bleach under the bus despite the fact that I JUST told him that Bleach sold around 450,000 to 500,000 copies average in the first week.

>mfw anons aren't taking the BCfag bait

>>156592723
Dude the faggot is falseflagger you this right?

>>156592925
>shows blatantly evidence stating that you are wrong
>still spouting bullshit

This is just sad

>>156592984
I don't see the Naruto rip off. It's more like One Piece.

>>156593037
No, you proved my point when you linked the fact that Bleach's final volume sold more than MHA.

MHA outsold Bleach ONCE due to the anime. Most of the time, Bleach sold 450,000 to 500,000 copies on average per volume in the first week.

>>156592973
I don't know man I MHA is kinda starting to stagnate. Honestly I am just waiting for them to do there timeskip.

None of these new series are what I consider to be big, last series in this past decade that big sales was AssClass. Jump has nothing now besides One Piece that and HiatusXHiatus as million sellers.

>>156592984
>Bleach sold around 450,000 to 500,000 copies average in the first week.

You're wrong. That was in total, not the first week and some volumes didn't even reach 500k. Hell, BHA was in 7th place while Bleach was in 17th place in the top-selling manga list of 2016. BHA was in the 5 million range while Bleach stayed in the two million range. I prefer Bleach, but I don't like spreading misinformation.

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>>156593137
Well that's because you're a dumbass

>>156586585
generic as all hell

insufferable MC

juicy girls

but the art can be lovely

>>156593212
How so?

>>156593149
>last series in this past decade that big sales was AssClass
Haikyuu!!! sold just as much
MHA and Souma are also on the top 10 of 2016 manga sales. stop being retarded.

>>156592984
Argument about sales then the end is just say about rip off

>>156589909
It will get hugely popular again but not to One Piece levels.

Part of One Piece's success is that it's semi-family friendly and more marketable to a wider audience. HxH is far more adult in tone.

>>156587860
Well for one, Haikyu is probably over after the Nationals are over.

>>156593149
>None of these new series are what I consider to be big
You have a very narrow definition of big. Most manga let alone Jump manga can barely reach half a million, OP and AssClass are outliers

There is no fucking new big 3. There is only ever going to be one.

>>156593209
But I said 450,000 TO 500,000. That means the sales can be in-between those two. So my point still stands. I recall that Bleach sold that much in the first week. I was even paying attention very closely to that too. This is the reason why Bleach's final arc lasted around 4 years instead of a 1.5-2 years if it had the abysmal sales of 200,000 or less.

>>156593269
>Muh for adult

HxHfags everyone.

>>156586256

No way, the horrible part of being part of a "big 3" is that SJ will milk you to incredible levels, ruining otherwise great series and letting them overstay their welcome, look at what happenned to bleach and Naruto and I don't really want that to happen to My Hero Academia.

>>156587776
>Soul Society > Pre Reaper > 1000 Year Blood War > Arrancar Hueco Mundo

Hueco Mundo was pure garbage. No backgrounds, no story, just pure 1vs1 fights over and over.

Blood War was rushed garbage too.

>>156593368
Old Jump reader now adult

>>156593400
No, Arrancar: Hueco Mundo was 21-32. It was still entertaining. That is the one where Grimmjow was the main villian. That's Fake Karakura Town War you are talking about.

1000 Year Blood War wasn't rushed until the last 6 chapters due to editors being assholes.

>>156593451
Its kubo hack writing

>>156593400
>Hueco Mundo was pure garbage.
I really enjoyed Rukia vs Aaroniero.

Why is One Piece so fucking popular? I mean, it's good, but not 12millon copies per tank good.

>>156593495
No it's not. Those arcs were entertaining as all hell. Fake Karakura Town War was when it went too far and Fullbring was a filler arc that was too much of Chapter Black.

>>156593368
Oh boy here we go.

One Piece violence has always been toned down, largely off-screen during extremes and uses death sparingly.

HxH arcs have featured full on gore, dismemberment, mass killings and adult themes such as drug use full on front. It is by definition more adult from a marketing standpoint. If you're trying to argue on the merits of the storytelling or something like that, you're in the wrong conversation.

That's like saying graphic movies like Cannibal Holocaust and Rambo are actually for underage viewers because the story sucks. The visuals demand demographics before anything else.

>>156593451
>No, Arrancar: Hueco Mundo was 21-32. It was still entertaining. That is the one where Grimmjow was the main villian. That's Fake Karakura Town War you are talking about.

No, I'm talking about Hueco Mundo.

Nothing but 1vs1 fighting over and over and over. That's all it was, don't embarass yourself trying to elevate garbage. If you enjoyed the fights, more power to you. But literally the only praise I've ever seen for the entirety of the middle part of Bleach usually devolves into a preference for one particular fight or another.

>>156593451
>1000 Year Blood War wasn't rushed until the last 6 chapters due to editors being assholes.

Right ok, it was perfectly fine before all that, sure.

>>156592355
I already explained in that post that the hero cast in BnHA sucks. They aren't interesting at all, and they don't behave like actual friends, but are just "friendly" all the time.

For comparison, the Strawhats aren't perfect characters by any means, but their constant bickering makes their relationships feel more real than if they were constantly being polite to each other. The only characters that ever get into fights in BnHA is Bakugo vs the world.

>>156593509
History, sales, a literal theme park and a Guiness world record says what you say is wrong.

>>156593660
You are ignoring the fact that the 1v1 fights only REALLY started after Grimmjow's defeat. The plot was still going during 28-32.

It's not garbage, you are just being pretentious and and idiot.

>>156593671
>Character bickering all the time makes them good characters

Oh boy! Its the retards way of writing characters

should I read or watch MHA?

>>156593790
No, it's not really worth it. I suggest reading Tokyo Ghoul. Or Seven Deadly Sins.

>>156593747
>You are ignoring the fact that the 1v1 fights only REALLY started after Grimmjow's defeat. The plot was still going during 28-32.

Not ignoring it, you're just in denial.

Please give me a rundown of the arc storywise before Grimmjow's defeat, then look at what you wrote, realize how short it is, and realize how shallow the story was.

>It's not garbage, you are just being pretentious and and idiot.

Yeah now the insults start coming. I can tell you have a real strong argument here.

>>156593790
Just read black clover

>>156586585

I think the art is pretty good and the action isn't bad. Everything else is fucking terrible though. Most of the characters are shit, the story is as generic as you could possibly get. This is basically another Fairy Tail. Read for the cute girls and decent art.

>>156593671
>>For comparison, the Strawhats aren't perfect characters by any means, but their constant bickering makes their relationships feel more real than if they were constantly being polite to each other.
Instead they're all just punchlines to one another
>Oh look Luffy did something stupid
>Better give a reaction
>Oh look Sanji and Brook did something perverted
>Nami is going to hit him

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Why are guys getting so fired up over series that are marketed towards teenagers?

>>156593671
>They aren't interesting at all, and they don't behave like actual friends, but are just "friendly" all the time.
Thank fuck its just your worthless opinion or else I would have taken you seriously

> The only characters that ever get into fights in BnHA is Bakugo vs the world.

Anonymous 04/30/17(Sun)23:12:15 No.156593699

And people don't fucking like him for that very reason

>>156593764
I'm not even saying that. I'm saying that if you're setting your story in a fucking school full of superpowered adolescents "polite" should not be a character trait of every student in the class except for one.

AssClass had the same problem and it sucked.

>>156593671
You realize you are comparing a story with a core cast of like 7 characters and 700+ chapters to a story with a cast of 15+ core characters and 130 chapters right?

Stop lying guys. There was never a Big 3....Just One Big Piece.

>>156594029
But that picture say other way

>>156593976
You're literally complaining that they're not assholes to one another. Also AssClass problem was that the cast were given next to no characterization or development not that they were too nice to one another.

>>156593823
>>156593855
don't be like that. also I managed to get the 14 volumes of Tokyo Ghoul for 40$, they should be arriving on Tuesday, I'm asking for MHA because its licensed here in tacoland.SDS just got licensed too and the first volume its releasing in May

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>>156589397

Toriko was being pushed at a time when Toei was seeking something to fill an open time-slot. This was before Toriyama decided to pull a George Lucas and allow Toei to continue Dragon Ball. Toriko did fucking terribly as far as the anime is concerned. It got replaced with Dragon Ball Kai which was a fucking re-run of Dragon Ball and that got better ratings.

As a manga it had its moments but it never really grabbed me. I think the highlight of Toriko was the food gambling arc. The rest was pretty meh and the time-skip turned out to be a huge let down.

I think if there is one manga Jump should be shilling it's Kimetsu no Yaiba. So far it's hit all the marks for me. Plus there hasn't been a decent Edo period Shonen series in a while not since the days of Kekkaishi and Nura.

>>156594092
I know I said "too nice" but I didn't mean literally just too nice. I meant lack of conflict. It's just everyone gets along all the time, and they also have no characterization or development just like AssClass.

>>156594238
>I meant lack of conflict.
Then go fucking read Bleach again where everyone was an asshole for no reason

>>156592909
If I wanted a good time I would read something that isnt shit

>>156594326
just like in real life.
Bleach was the most redpilled of the Big 3

>>156593842
No, you are in denial. Everybody knows the 1v1 fights happened in Fake Karakura Town War.

Volume 27
Ulquiorra shows up, kidnaps Orihime for Aizen, Soul Reapers pull out, Ichigo and Co. go to Hueco Mundo.

Volume 28:
Aizen orders Espada to stand down and pretend nothing is going on
Ichigo and Co. Meet Nel
Renji and Rukia show up

Volume 29:
All 1v1 fights against ex espada

Volume 30
Rukia takes on Espada #9, Ichigo encounters Ulquiorra about Orihime

Volume 31:
Ichigo takes on Ulquiorra
Orihime gets broken out by Grimmjow
Renji and Uryu confront Espada #8
Grimmjow forces Orihime to heal Ichigo while he seals away Ulquiorra

Volume 32:
Ichigo vs Grimmjow final battle

See? It still is going fine. The only one that was a 1v1 fights was volume 29. After that, most of the volumes either was about the plot or taking on a major espada due to major connections. It isn't short but you are trying to make it look short.

Get fucked faggot.

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>>156593671
>The only characters that ever get into fights in BnHA is Bakugo vs the world
While I don't agree with what you said, you did make me laugh with this line.

>>156594118
read and watch
Adaption is actually pretty good, but you should always read the source material

>>156594238
Why the fuck would kids who have earned their way into one of the most prestigious hero schools incite confrontation with each other when it would risk them getting expelled?

I'm guessing you're also missing the competitiveness laid down during things like the sports festival. Everyone in the class is aiming to be a pro hero with several wanting to be #1. They are are direct rivals with one another for success and reputation.

Characters like Stain exist to make things less black and white. And there are individual relationships of conflicting ideas.

>Bleach didn't get the Boruto NEXT GENERATIOSN treatment.
It's not fair.

>>156586256
>Forneverworld's shit
>ESLing
>Falseflagging

this thread was started by the Bulgarian fag from Mangahelpers wasn't it

>>156594707
No, that's great. So now we don't have to go through a Dragon Ball GT. Boruto fucking sucks too.

Better to end it with that world before it creates something horrible like Boruto or Dragon Ball GT.

>>156594564
I probably sounded more negative than my actual opinion was. I wouldn't mind friendly rivalries, but even the one that was set up with Todoroki has pretty much fallen off into Todoroki just being the non-confrontational guy with the troubled past. Meanwhile Bakugo gets into fights at the drop of a hat with the entire cast.

I'm still reading because the situations the characters are put in have been interesting the whole time, but I'm not as invested in the characters as I'd like to be yet. I just think it could get better.

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>>156594779
I just wanted to see more of these 2.

>>156594238
For how long the series has running, there has been plenty of conflict. Even with the minor characters have small conflicts with each other.

>Electric boy constantly gets shit on by ear girl
>Yoyo feeling inferior because of ice/fire boy
>Midget getting shit on by girls constantly
>Gravity girls conflict regarding deku
>Iida/deku/bakugo/todorikos rivalry
>The whole conflict regarding saving bakugo

Arguably I'd say it had more conflict in its first 100+ chapters between its cast then OP did. OP's first 100 chapters. barely even focused on character interactions. It was pretty much

1. Travel to new island
2. Find new nakama
3. Find the problem for new nakama
4. Solve problem
5. Get new nakama
6. Repeat in till Chopper is recruited

>>156594895
I don't. There is no need for those two to take over. We've covered the Soul Reapers, Hollows, Arrancars, Vizards, Fullbriners, Substitute Soul Reapers and Quincies.

There is nothing left to cover. Hell itself would be a flimsy concept to go over.

Holy shit, One Piece has nearly 800 episodes!? Has anyone here seen all 787 episodes? How is it?

>>156594668
My point was that Bakugo's conflicts with everyone are too intense while everyone else pretty much forgot that they were rivals even on a friendly competitive level after the sports festival. That's pretty much the only thing I'm missing. I understand that both Iida and Todoroki are going through inferiority complex arcs right now, but that pretty much means that Bakugo is picking up all the slack, and it's a little varied on how successful that's been.

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>>156594895
Me too anon.

It's surprising how shounen jump shit gets less original with time.

>>156595054
literally the second coming of our lord and savior Jesus (Yehošuaʕ) Christ (Māšîaḥ)

>>156586585
>black clover
Copypasta: The manga.

>>156595131
>My point was that Bakugo's conflicts with everyone are too intense
Literally no one gives a shit.

>>156593928
This series are literally made to get fired up over.

>>156595131
There hasn't been any opportunities to express there rivalry when the events that have happened since sports festival.

>Nearly killed by a hero killer
>Nearly killed by a group of villains in the forest
>Paired up battle against teachers
>Team based free for all battle
>All Might's battle

You can't really focus on minor rivalries when all of the characters are literally getting there shit kicked in by villains or they need to work together to solve a problem. The main focus is on getting strong enough to beat the growing threat of villains, not being the number 1 hero.

Even among the characters only like 4-5 of them really care about being number 1, the rest just want to be strong enough to be a hero.

>>156595562
That's fair. It has been a whirlwind since the festival, but that's still circling back around to the series being pretty young in the grand scheme of things. We're basically looking at it in the fetal stages right now and asking if it's gonna be as big as One Piece. We'll eventually either forget that it was ever hyped up as much as it was or forget that we were ever doubting its status as a Big 3 contender, but it's just too early.

The Big 3 is Naruto, Bleach and OP. Boku Hero and whatever the fuck that is arent going to sniff the worldwide popularity those three got 10-15 years ago to earn them that title.

>>156589583
There was no betrayal. Only side Aizen was on was his own.

I'm fucking tired of those x-men every character has some unique power bullshit.

>>156595985
That honestly is why a "Big 3" will likely never occur again. The only reason those 3 shows got so popular was due to the era they existed in. They were what got most people into anime due to TV being he main source of entertainment. Now that the internet is so popular and anime barely exist on TV its nearly impossible for a series to get the monopoly that those three shows had on western TV.

>>156590386
one piece have a lot of fujo stuff so .. is 3/3

>>156589270

Mashima had Rave Master, which had a long run and also the most awesome OP ever. Most mangakas will have a number of flash in the pans and early cancellations before they get a full work done. Ever read zombie powder?

>>156591545
Same

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>>156586256
>Bc,MHA

Please stop this meme

>>156586256

The new Big Three is Dragon Ball Super, Boruto and Attack on Titan.

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>>156590570
I miss when narutard threads were banned.

>>156586256
>Black Clover
>New big 3
My sides. I understand BnHA since it's actually good but Black Clover is cliche over cliche. Really reminds me a lot of Fairy Tail.

>>156599199
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2012/08/one-piece-manga-volume-67-breaks-first-print-record/

Good job Oda-san

No new big 3 now reddit academia fag kys. This piece of shit will never manage to top Bleach total sales idol why it's pushed next to OP.

>>156599578
>since it's actually good

>>156586256
I'm gonna be honest.

Original Pre 2010 big 3 were really decent.

But this new Big 3 is better than post 2010 big 3.

Basically Black Clover and BnHA are better than Bleach post Aizen arc and Naruto post Pain arc.

>>156587328
Can anyone tell me what the finger numbers mean? Is it a Jan Ken thing?

>>156599899
>this new Big 3 is better than post 2010 big 3.
not really. One Piece has been pretty shit lately.

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Only good thing about Black Cover is the red hair Berserk prostitute clone.

>>156587776
>Academia
>Naruto knockoff
>OP
>The only good one
What

>Black Clover
literally my mom's Fairy Tail

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>>156586256
I don't like it. I come from the time where Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece were the big three.

This just feels so fucking weird to me.

>>156586446
>Naruto ripped off HunterxHunter
>Bleach ripped off Yu Yu Hakusho
>new BIG 3 are One Piece and NarutoxNaruto

it's like pottery

>>156600608
>>Bleach ripped off Yu Yu Hakusho
I think bleach ripoff saint seiya

Gold saints = Gotei 13
Athena = Rukia
Seiya = Ichigo
Cloths = Zanpakuto

Yo be fair with Bleach, Kubo seems to had a complete dick of a editor, probably the same guy that made Kurumada go into endless circles with Saint Seiya

>>156596069
Shut up, Char.

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>>156586585
I'm enjoying it, though it does borrow heavily from Naruto, Bleach, Nanatsu No Taizai, etc. It's like the author is sprinkling in a lot of ideas from other major works but adding his own twist on it.

>>156586256
>>156587328
How any of them will be finished when One Piece still runs?

>>156601331
what's this even about?

>>156601331
this actually looks autistic. These nips need to stop with this garbage and just make porn honestly

>>156601408
Magic.

People in a Demon tribe use to side with Demons before getting genocided. Now they want revenge and are attacking the MCs home country.

While this is going on the Magic Emperor is trying to replace the King in his own plan while a Captain under the Magic Emperor is trying to rise to fame and fortune and looks like the Demon tribe leader.

The MC is just some loser who can't use magic, but been contracted to a man who use to teach the demon tribe leader grimoire who specializes in using anti-magic weaponry in the form of swords. MC wants to become the next Magic Emperor, but has to compete against his childhood rival who has been contracted to the Hero grimoire that stopped this evil Demon long ago.

>>156589583
To betray someone you had to trust him at some point in the past, no?
>>156601331
Somehow I get a Dragonball vibe from this image.

>>156593671
>They aren't interesting at all, and they don't behave like actual friends, but are just "friendly" all the time
they go to a private school. i went to one for most of my schooling. classes are small and EVERYONE knows each other and is on friendly terms. yeah some people are more friends than others, but BnHA DEFINITELY portrays these circumstances well enough.

>>156593243
Still not a single million seller. Sad. Meanwhile HxH can still sell a million with ease despite all the long ass hiatus.

>>156600019
the fuck are you talking about. this current arc is the best the series has been since pre-timeskip.

>>156601772
>one arc is good

This doesn't change the fact post-TS One Piece was shit until now.

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Honestly feel like Black Clover is a good change of pace. It does take a lot of shit from every other major manga out there but it has a much lighter feel than most shonen mangas. Feels like early Naruto, early Fairy Tail(w/o fanservice), early Bleach, and a hint of Gintama combined into one. Good reaction faces at a good pace despite the mood or setting and it feels like the Asta actively goes against the story's want to get more serious at times. He'll more or less say what a reader wants to say at times. Villain's plan is dumb so he'll say it's dumb or if it's convoluted, he'll call that out.

Also I do appriciate how Asta still is wanting a side character from chapter 1 instead of the female characters more prevalent in the story

>>156588299
Hey now, it may be worse than Naruto but it's definitely better than Fairy Tail has been in years.

How popular is MHA in japan exactly? Still suprised it hasn't really rised in sales significantly

Is Togashi dead?

>>156591303
>>156601331
>Medieval European setting
>People wear swimming suits and go to the beach
Why does this bother me so much?

>>156602040
Why would it rise in sales?

>>156602107
You're mildly autistic just like me.

>>156602124
What

>>156602079
Its fantasy setting like naruto

>>156602079
The swim suit of the medieval period was going naked and loose clothes shirt and skirt.

Do you want naked or loose shirt/skirt people at the beach?

>>156602107
The anime and longevity

>>156602166
People just didn't bather in the beach period because of all the sand and salt, they'd go to lakes and rivers which also served as a bath.

>>156599949
Yeah, and they're supposed to be playing against their deuteragonist, which why some like Gintoki are freaking out, since he lost.

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>>156602172
>Anon walks into the business meeting
>Boss:"Anon, how do we make BNHA sales rise significantly?"
>Anon:"The anime and longevity"

Sounds like asian marketing to me.

Step by step guide on how to save Shonen Jump
>Get Murata back
>Get Obata back
done

>>156602205
Well, as long as it sells merch it'll be fine

>>156602166
All hail bikini sama

>>156586585
Best natural tits of the 3, it deserves a spot solely on that.

>>156587956
Seriously anon, how many chapters did you read? 10? 20? Because I don't think we read the same thing if you read all of the chapters and still say it's a Naruto ripoff

>>156602285
Chapter one is rip off

should i get the jump sub from viz or is it shit

>>156601978
Still managed to be better than that entire Bleach fiasco, glad that was buried and put to rest.

>>156587431
There are some fags appear when WSJD thread is here. But that's it.

>>156602223
Obata failed last time he was in the magazine, so he migrated over to Jump Square. And Murata is with Young Jump's web division, so he's also still in the extended Jump family.

>>156587626
Maybe not for me. I found Meliodas bland and dropped the series for years. Meliodas in the one shot is more entertaining.

>>156593790
If you must, watch it. Something about reading page after page of Deku crying was absolutely infuriating for me. At least you can fast forward through that in the anime.

>>156602381
Enoki's fault. Obata is not an idea man.

>>156602338
Really? That says plenty about why your opinion is like that

>>156593790
Depends. If you want a series where the MC is an unhumanly self confident rock, screams all the time, and friendship powa wins the day, the manga is not for you. If you want an alternate timeline story with a modern setting in a society where most peasants has some kind of power (but calls it superpower anyway bcs that's inhuman), and see how that changes the social order, law and all that deep but subtle shit, go read it

I thought Souma and Neverland are their best series after One piece now

>>156587776
>>One Piece
>>The only good one
pick one

I've been saying it all a-ficking-long!
Big 3 is Black Cover, Boku no Hero and One Piece and you faggots would keep saying there is no big 3.

>>156601331
This is a nice page to show if you want to kill someone interest in a manga before reading it

Its there some kind of context that makes this page not terrible?

>>156599578
Quality is irrelevant in this case, Japanese readers love it and it's getting an anime.

>>156599278
I don't get why Dragon Ball Super is published V-Jump, you'd think that WSJ would want such a big cash cow in their magazine. They clearly have no problem with authors that can only handle a monthly schedule as proven by Boruto.

>>156589132
That arc was a wet fart
>Students succeed where pros failed
>Neither All Might nor AfO die

>>156591455
>>156590386
It was inevitable really. Less and less boys are actually buying Jump and girls are becoming more and more prominent in the readership. About half the readers are girls at this point.
Remember how in Bakuman this was treated like a bad thing that was going to ruin the manly passion of Manga?

>>156603340
DBS manga isn't the main product though, it'd probably sell more if it were in WSJ, but it's secondary to the anime. Maybe they wanted to give V-Jump a shot in the arm?

>The next Black Clover arc is a tournament arc
Why am I not surprised.

>>156603497
>Maybe they wanted to give V-Jump a shot in the arm?
True, all they really had was videogame news, Yugioh news and Yugioh promo cards. DBS has probably really helped their sales.

>>156602079
isn't black clover early modern rather than medieval?

>>156603808
>Medieval fantasy elements like wizards, elves, demons and dungeons
>Knights
>Nobles
>Serfs and peasants
>The Church
>Medieval castles and fashions
It's Medieval European setting with a few NIPPON STRONK elements mixed in for good measure, as well as the occasional anachronism when convenient.

>>156603489
> <100 chapters, wishing a major character death
> Pros "failed" since they got blasted off by big bad, students were not because they were hidden
> OFA retired, AFO got locked up until god knows when. Both symbolic death

>>156604023
> <100 chapters, wishing a major character death
So? What kind of argument is that

> Pros "failed" since they got blasted off by big bad, students were not because they were hidden
Still feels cheap as fuck, why bother going to hero school when pros heroes are jobbers.

>OFA retired, AFO got locked up until god knows when. Both symbolic death
Symbolic deaths don't hold a candle to actual deaths, you can try to force this term as much as you want, it won't make it good.

>>156588628
>hurr durr your opinion
>not super bad nor super good

You sound like an utterly retarded Fairytard who keeps denying that his favourite series is gutter trash just because he enjoys reading it.

Fucking kill yourself.

>>156603899
>NIPPON STRONK
At first they only had Yami, but then the Water Temple was pretty damn Japanese even if for some reason they worship Poseidon.

>>156604143
NO U: The post

>Posting a fucking Viz pic

Nigga really?

Also, HQ is bigger than BC any day

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>>156586585
It's literally Fairy Tail + Naruto and turns out to be even more cliche and generic than both of them.

MC is cringy as fuck and just keeps doing this face for 80% of the manga. Been a while since I've been so disgusted by a manga.

>>156604143
That means the series is too young for any major character death. A student died, 100-200 chapters later everybody will have forgotten about it, except the series didn't introduce any major death after that or the series revolves around that one student's (or two or three, whatever) death. Both unlikely since the series has just started to grow dark. Also the world hasn't turned into shit (it now is). Patience, you want death so badly and "death is good hurr", you can guarantee AM is going to die

>>156586585
It's no worse than the shit it's ripping off. /a/ is massively tsundere for Naruto and ignore all of it's flaws, Black Clover's problem was that it's too new, it's just as uninspired as Naruto is and it's main cast are just as shit as Naruto's were.

>>156604342
>Patience, you want death so badly
I don't though, but if you read the fight between All Might and All for One and don't think AM dying would've been the perfect conclusion you're just sucking the author's dick.

I'm also 100% certain AM surviving is just due to his popularity and not because it was "too early", so clearly the author doesn't give a fuck about his story all that much either.

The real BIG THREE:

>HxH
>Mx0
>Bleach (before Mexico arc)

>>156604143
>Death = Good writing
This meme never gets old

>Still feels cheap as fuck
How? The operation was a success they didn't expect a villain that was suppose to be in hiding to show up out if nowhere

>Symbolic deaths don't hold a candle to actual deaths
Nope, it means that AM has to be the one to be protected whicg is an interesting development for a mentor character since AfO has already prepared his student by Deku is still inexperienced.

>>156593594
>uses death sparingly
Doesn't stop Oda from acting like he's killing characters for the drama before making them be perfectly alright.
That's the thing I hate most about One Piece.
He just keeps getting away with abusing fake deaths.

>>156604541
>but if you read the fight between All Might and All for One and don't think AM dying would've been the perfect conclusion you're just sucking the author's dick.
Nope it would have been another cliche for you to bitch about. Him surviving is to show that Hori has more in store for him as a character and another notch in AfOs belt especially when he stated that "you lost your chance to die an honorable death there" meaning it was entirely planned.
>I'm also 100% certain AM surviving is just due to his popularity and not because it was "too early", so clearly the author doesn't give a fuck about his story all that much either.
Thats a whole lot of assumptions based on nothing especially since he's the second most important character in the story after Deku.

>>156604541
AM died in that arc and I can already hear the cries of "This manga sucks ass because it's so cliche"

Even the big bad itself clearly say AM missed his perfect chance to die. So instead of getting the usual trope of "mentor death trigger's disciple" (which will happen anyway, but later), we get the post-power mentor who are starting to show signs of depression and powerlessness (and I bet will culminate in the mentor sacrificing himself for a final act of heroic)

>>156586256
Yep

>>156604682
>Nope it would have been another cliche for you to bitch about. Him surviving is to show that Hori has more in store for him as a character and another notch in AfOs belt especially when he stated that "you lost your chance to die an honorable death there" meaning it was entirely planned.

Thats a whole lot of assumptions based on nothing

>>156586585
I like it :3

>>156587328
>Saiki losing to Nendo because he can't read his mind

Man there's a great attention to detail there.

>>156604805
>Thats a whole lot of assumptions based on nothing
>Its stated in the actual manga
Are yoy done making a jackass of yourself?

>>156587776
I'm the one finished that chart and honestly Bleach ended having such a trash ending I never recovered.

Black clovee is really fucking boring generic whonen that is literally magic Naruto.

While BnHA still follows classic shonen tropes, it feels fresh. Black clover has no identity.

>>156604921
>Assume that I would bitch about AM dying
>Assume that Hori has a long-term plan for All Might and don't just keep him around to please fans
>Assume that AFO's line means that Hori is totally plotting something guys (and what the fuck do you mean by "it was entirely planend", that scene took place after the conclusion of the fight where we already knew both survived)

Seems like we're both making assumptions, except mine aren't about how a forced shonen is the godsend that will redefine the genre and any voice against it are trolls, like BnHAfags seem to think.

>>156593269
Volume of HxH sells more than volume of One Piece.

>>156605026
>Seems like we're both making assumptions,
Nah you're just wrong since everything I've posted is based entirely on everything the manga has shown while you're msking a baseless assumption based solely on popularity which is hilarious given that the most popular manga series of all time killed off the 4th most popular character in the series like nothing. The story of MHA is about Deku and AM and how they'll grow through the course of the story, AM was never going to die there since Deku isn't ready to take the torch if he had it would have been cheap and Deku would have had to rush his development.

>>156605110
Nope

>>156587918
It's monthly, so it's never gonna be part of BIg 3.

>>156593660
>But literally the only praise I've ever seen for the entirety of the middle part of Bleach usually devolves into a preference for one particular fight or another.
You're mostly right about HM not having much plot (and definitely nothing comparable to SS), still it's not true that people only praise fights there. TBTP, which was a midpoint of the Arrancar saga is largely regarded one of the best part of Bleach (at least in the western fandom). True, it was a retcon, but one awesome enough to overlook this. There was also Nel plotline, which didn't turn out to be as important as it initially seemed, and hardly get a real conclusion, but still was there and her reveal as Espada was pretty damn nice.

>>156587776
Anon, I won't comment on your taste, but why the fuck are you dividing Arrancar arc in two, but still keeping TYBW arc as one? Both can be naturally divided into 3-4 arcs if you want to do this.

>>156605026
>>156604805
Leave him be anon, the discussion ended when the other anon parroted you and now resorted to name-calling. Besides, anon's assumption of AFO's line about AM's not dying was a hasty decision is baseless, while assuming the other way around is not because similar sounding lines (and open ends that are not resolved yet) are common in the story

>>156605200
>given that the most popular manga series of all time killed off the 4th most popular character in the series like nothing
Ace?

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>there will be a time when One Piece is not part of the Big 3

>>156605274
I think you got them mixed up

>>156602830
Do you mean quality-wise or popularity-wise? Either way, they're not Action series.

>>156589397
> Double Arts

I am still mad. Thanks for reminder Anon.