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New form when?
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Since I'm early I might as well say it first.

Gohan > Cell > Videl > All other characters period.
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>>156492591
Saiyans have enough forms, how about giving someone else a new form, like Piccolo?
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>>156492650
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Still bored and lazy here
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>>156492695
Kill your fucking self.
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>>156492897
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So are Chiaotzu's telekinetic powers ki based or magic based? Also what do you think about the little fella in general?
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>>156492695
I wish you yet another night of good rest I suppose.
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>>156492974
You fucking autist, get out.
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>>156492897
Do you take requests?
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Daily reminder he will get a spinoff as the main protagonist and BLACK Pan

Gohanfags BTFO
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>>156492963
Useless nobody. They did the right thing in dropping him.
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>>156492665
>how about giving someone else a new form, like Piccolo
We'll get Hyper Saiyan Oozaru Rainbow 7 ∞ Genkai Dama Kaio-ken first before Piccolo even gets a new turban
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Daily reminder to filter: Maifags, Marysuefags, GTfags, Shipperfags and the worst of them, Zamasu/Blackfags, have a nice day.
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>http://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1493386711&image_share=7
Get ready for Unlimited Piccolo Works
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>>156493168
>have a shitty powerlevel
>divide it by 50x

Brilliant
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Gohan stop bullying the Doc! you shitter!
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I miss him.
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>>156492897
This red looks better.
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>>156492665
Piccolo should spawn minions like his father or something and maybe fuse with them, namekian style. More forms are boring.
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>>156493218
>another fucking tripfag
Goddamn all of you attention seeking twats. I thought you were dead.
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>>156493240
We all do.
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>>156493272
Can he do that?
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>>156493296
>We
You have to go back Pedro.
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>>156493280
>another
>not "THE"
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>>156493240
>>156493296
I don't
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>>156493296
>Missing Pink Xicor
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>>156492963
dude can't even count
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>>156493360
This, Black a shit
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>>156493300
Not really, the original Piccolo could do that because he was also a demon. But maybe our Piccolo could borrow some demonic powers, who knows.
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>>156493374
Hey now it's not that bad
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>>156493119
>uubfags this pathetic
He'll become the next Launch
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>>156493398
*teleports behind you*
too easy
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>>156493409
>Piccolo reinstating his Demon Clan and gaining the powers that come with it
Might make a nice mini-arc
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>>156492591
just have goku and vegeta fight to near death and maybe attain ssj4 that way, albeit with a different design.
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>>156492591
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>>156493340
Reminder that Bra isn't Vegeta's.
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>>156493528
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>>156493398
I guess Freeza is Xicor to you as well?
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>>156492665
You would think the only species in the universe capable of making dragon balls would have some magical ascended form up their sleeve.

Like some kind of Dragon-Namekian form.
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>>156493360
>Pink Xicor
Who?
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>>156493617
Obviously not, Freeza isn't even a Saiyan.
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>>156493537
Bulma isn't a slut.
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>>156493272
Picolo should wish to the dragon balls to create 1000x picolos,
Then he would fuse with all those other picoloes and become 1000x stronger.
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>>156493688
Would he become Flute?
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>>156493653
It's a triggered Vegetafag.
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>>156493713
What?
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>>156493743
SO triggered.
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Reminder
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>>156493537
Nah, she loves Vegeta.
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>>156493537
That doesn't even make sense, Bra is part Saiyan so it has to be Vegeta's.
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>>156493856
>Marrying Yamcha's sloppy seconds
Lel, what a cuck.
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>>156493942
>implying Yamcha can even have an erection
At least you tried anon.
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No new forms. I'm already mad that the anime makes them go blue by default. In the manga they only go blue to win.
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>>156493942
>implying yamcha ever hit that
kek
KEK
K E K
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>>156492897
Why the yellow aura?
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>>156493813
like was it so hard for them to just have Bulma give 17/18 upgrades?

And have krillin do some RoSaT training ?
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>>156493784
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>>156493981
Sure he can, it's just that he goes loopy when it happens (and becomes a betalord).
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>>156492665
Piccolo should fuse with all Namekians and form Giga Namek
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>>156493996
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>>156493528
>>156493557
11/10
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>>156493942
>He thinks Vegeta hates being a cuck
He's proud of it, look at this shit.
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>>156494050
>being this retarded
The god forms let him breathe in space you fucking dipshit
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>>156493813
I don't get it. Who's 17 fighting in the bottom?
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>>156493918
Because Vegeta's the only Saiyan around, right?
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>>156494079
How much did Vegeta want to kill himself there?
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>>156494016
Or just copy this scene but instead of Kami it's Whis.
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>>156493942
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>>156494091
That's why SSB Vegeta got killed by Freeza right?
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>>156494050
>Save your stamina
That's what SSB does. Which retard made this?
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>>156494108
From 1 to 10? i'd say 11.
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>>156494144
no, check the start of goku vs hit in the anime

hit asks goku to blue, but goku says it uses his stamina too much
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>>156494144
>Save your stamina
>That's what SSB does
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>>156494106
>Goku cucked Vegeta before they even met
BASED
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>>156493942
can't be the cuck if you're the superior man.
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>>156494143
That wasn't confirmed retard, and even if it was, yeah, him dying by literally standing on a fucking exploding planet is excusable. Fucking Beerus needed Whis to shield him and everyone else to survive, you dumbass.
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>>156494050
>SSJ4 to hold up building
GTfags are the absolute most pathetic
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>>156494050
Leave GT Goku to me.

Don't worry though, I'll hold back.
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>this whole thread
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>>156494208
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Pic related blocks your path.

What do?
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>>156494299
>oh shit he made an argument
>I know! I'll post a reddit-tier meme, that'll show him!
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>>156494128
Not canon.
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>>156494208
implying that retard knows what sex even is
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>>156494387
tell him WE WUZ
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>>156494105

Sasuke with a gun.
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>>156494387
Show him this piece of QUALITY
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>>156494286
Father, you take on Goku.

I will defeat Trunks.
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>>156494208
That doesn't even make any sense. How can Vegeta be a cuckold if he wasn't married to Bulma then?
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>>156493998
Bulma : Huh ? Is that a proposal ?
Vegeta : Huh ?
Bulma : Well … Okay !
Vegeta : Hey !
Referee : What do you know ! Contestant Vegeta got married !
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>>156494523
Why does Vegeta look so much younger than Bulma here
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>>156494523
What is this?
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>>156494403
>he made an argument
Is that what that post was meant to be? Top kek

>That wasn't confirmed retard,
Watch the movie again, Bulma clearly says Vegeta is dead.

>him dying by literally standing on a fucking exploding planet is excusable
Namek saga Freeza survived an exploding planet, so yeah I think Universe tier SSB Vegeta should be able to do so.

>Fucking Beerus needed Whis to shield him and everyone else to survive, you dumbass.
No he didn't dumbass, that was to save Bulma pay attention.
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>>156494557
>No he didn't dumbass, that was to save Bulma pay attention.
not him but you're the one who needs to pay attention. listen to beerus's tone he clearly needed whis to shield them for everyone to survive.
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>>156494523
Vegeta: Yeah, yeah...
Krillin: it's okay Yamcha... It's okay.
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>>156494050
Shouldn't throw stones in that glass house of yours, facebook newfag. GT Goku needs SSJ4 to hold up a building.
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>>156494223
>Superior man
Bulma sure doesn't think so.
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>>156494543
>>156494546
It's an "what-if" story with Vegeta being the Saiyan who ended up on Earth instead of Goku.
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why the fuck do people care about SSG Vegeta when he's already surpassed it are you guys fucking stupid jesus christ Vegeta fans are so desperate for anything to cheer for since their hero has almost surpassed Yamcha in terms of jobbing
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>>156494016
None of the non Saiyan characters need power ups. Toei just need to give them more screen time to demonstrate their level of skill and abilities to the audience. They would have to do something mundane and capture the choreography of the original Dragonball to make things exciting.
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>>156494617
So did Tarble come down and fight him before Nappa and Goku did?
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>>156494509
>Being this dense
Everyone already rode Bulma before Vegeta even got a turn.
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>>156494675
>Everyone already rode Bulma
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>>156494642
No, it was still Raditz.

Here's the link if you're interested: http://www.caldostrong.com/2013/05/super-vegeta-den-1.html
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>>156494617
Oh cool I'll look it up, thanks.
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>>156494410
4 u
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>>156494509
>implying retards from 4chan know what cuck means
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>>156494700
Yes, even Pan.

Even Turtle.

Even Bulma.
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>>156494675
Please post the canon manga pages of Bulma having sex with all of the men she's supposedly slept with.
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>there exists no perfect dragon ball mus-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcGndttTxuk
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>>156494735
Even Trunks
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>>156494592
Please stop being retarded.
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>>156494773
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>>156494773
Well, he came out of her pussy.
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>>156494523
Where can I find this manga?

>>156494543
The Artist knows that adult Bulma was the best version because of her fashion sense and sexual appetite.
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>>156494759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJcLxGwXhk
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>>156494598
is that why she chose him then?
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>>156494821
10x better than GTfag's shit.
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How many of you here have actually read/watched all of Dragon Ball/Z?
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>>156494819
Here: >>156494709
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>>156494739
It's pretty obvious.
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>>156494888
Yes.
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>>156494828
>Chose
You mean settled for.
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>>156494619
ANSWER ME VEGETAFAGS
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>>156494913
Have you forgotten?
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>>156494913
She's not having sex in any of those pics anon.
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>>156494786
>this is proof
Nothing in that frame implies that Beerus would survive the destruction of the planet from that range. If two people were in an elevator that was about to crash 25 stories to the ground and one stepped out and said "You should get out with me if you want to live" would you think they meant that they could survive, but were just getting out as a courtesy to the other person? Because if so, you're a fucking retard.

Congrats, you just got BTFO. Apologize and admit that you're less intelligent than I am and I'll forgive you.
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>>156494913
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>>156494962
It's a Shounen, can't show too much.
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>>156494975
>being this retarded
wew lad
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>>156494959
Because of the way he uses it in combination with SSB you speedreading fucking retard.
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>>156495006
>replying to bait
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>>156495000
>no argument
I accept your concession.
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>>156494913
>no proof
Just as I thought.
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>>156494893
Thanks. I'm having a blast watching Vegeta decimate thru every single opponent Goku faced in the original Dragonball.
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>>156495006
I don't read the manga since its just a slightly better version of the anime and I have too large of a manga backlog to bother with reading 80% of something I've already seen. I just see people spazzing out about red hair Vegeta here like it matters since he's already proven to have a stronger form.

>OH MY GOD GOHAN CAN GO SSJ1 TOO???
stating this at the end of the Cell saga is what you losers sound like
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>>156495059
>I don't read the manga
Then stop trying to make assumptions on it you goddamn fucking idiot.
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>>156494979
>Hasn't been kissed
>Vagina is still a canyon

>>156495053
Kek, just accept that Vegeta won last place on the Bulma-thon.
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>>156494979
Yeah, Bulma isn't an actual slut. She just tries to use her good looks and act like a slut to get what she wants, but in reality she was pretty inexperienced as a teenager. I guess she was just horny.
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>>156495087
Instead of insulting me how about you explain why this is a big deal or a cause for hype at all.

Or continue insulting me and implicitly admit to not being able to, it doesn't really matter to me since Vegeta's unfortunately just going to continue to be the bitch he was since Namek.
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>>156495100
Still waiting on that proof that she's a slut.
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>>156495100
A diamond is not a dick.
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>>156495132
See
>>156495006
And then fuck off. I'm not going to spoonfeed you, dipshit. If you want to know, you'll at least skim the manga.
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I'm getting sick and tired of you fucking faggots having nothing better to do with your time than to talk shit on Bulma for being a supposed "slut" even though in actuality she fucking isn't. She's the smartest and most useful character in the entire franchise, and that's an undeniable fact you can't prove wrong no matter how much you try. Fuck off.
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>>156495210
t. Vegeta
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>>156495164
I've given it to you. It's your problem if you're in denial about it, anon.

>>156495166
She used it as a diamond dick.
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>>156493502
Wouldn't be surprised if Jiren is a fakeout and it's just Goku and Vegeta left in the ring.
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>>156495197
I skimmed it while waiting on your post and your description was vague as fuck
oh wow he can switch between forms unnecessarily how cool

Vegetafags are retarded and I feel like Toriyama must have some knowledge of this and that's why he constantly shits on the character.
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>>156495210
>Getting triggered by blatantly obvious bait
Maybe this place isn't for you.
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>>156495284
>oh wow he can switch between forms unnecessarily how cool
>unnecessarily
That's why he used that ability to fuck Black up right? Retard. This is your last (You).
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>>156494792
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Best waifu coming through.
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>>156492974
>>156493333
Favorite piece of animation in DBS so far?
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>>156494735
>Yes, even Pan.
Hot.
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@156495313
>Wow he could fuck up someone using a transformation that wasn't as strong as his maximum one how cool! now it's even more impressive when he and goku job to give Trunks the spotlight

Thanks btw I'm tired of responding to blind fanboys I'll just ask someone else next thread.
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>>156494416
That makes it even funnier.
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>>156494709
Is the manga good because Vegeta as protagonist is smarter than Goku?
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>>156495439
No.
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>>156493119
He was cucked in GT, Toyotaro didnt guve a fuck about him in AF so much less in official projects and Toriyama doesnt want to make more stories after the epilogue
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>>156495345
There's a lot of lame beam firings in this show but when they put some spice in it it really turns out great.
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>>156494479
In minecraft
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>>156495345
The Vegito vs Merged Zamasu fight.
That was the animation quality I was expecting from the get go for Super because of how much we can abuse the digital age and computers nowadays. The scene itself was not completely amazing, but it was pleasing to see.

We haven't had anything like it since though. I'm not as disappointed with the animation quality in what we're getting in the most recent arc, but it still could be better.
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I wonder if Toriyama felt nostalgic drawing Dragon Ball again, even though he mentioned remembering how much he hated it.
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>>156495345
>Floor tiles rumbling behind Buu as he fires
>Floor tiles moving away as the beam comes forward
It's the little things.
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>>156493682
You're right. She's a superslut.
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>>156493528
>>156493557
Do more anon this is actually some good shit
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>>156495960
The Legendary Super Slut! One shows up every thousand years hungry for every cock she comes across!
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>>156495819
Really? What fucking low standards you have. The animation was on par with DECENT animation back in the 90s and the choreography was laughable trash. Vegito just bouncing his leg against Zamasu's arms 83895495743 times made me spit out my fucking drink. What a fucking joke you and your taste are.
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>>156496033
>GTfags
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>>156496033
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>>156496033
I'm not going to compare the standard of a weekly battle shonen to that of a shorter OVA with a higher budget for each episode. In no way am I defending Super's shitty animation quality and I expect much better out of it, but he asked "What is your piece of animation from DBS so far".

If the entire series was animated in the quality I saw in that one scene for a weekly battle shonen show in this age, I would indeed be satisfied.
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http://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1493386711&image_share=7

Anyone see this?
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>>156496033
>how to tell shitposters have only seen shitposting webms
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>>156496033
>Vegito just bouncing his leg against Zamasu's arms 83895495743 times made me spit out my fucking drink.
Wow you must have hated Z.
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>>156496168
>>156496173
>>156496208
And all the slutpup cockgarglers crawl out of their hidey holes to defend the fucking Super anime. You're all fucking pathetic.
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>>156496267
>you must have hated Z
>posts a GT gif
Are you confused or just fucking retarded?
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>>156496267
>that gif
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>156496278
What even in the fuck? Smug pup has been nothing but vocal in his disappointment in the series so far and has explained why it doesn't meet his expectations. How do you shitpost so hard you accidentally shitpost against yourself?
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>>156496342
>he's still defending an attention-whore tripfag
Don't post again, you fucking whiteknight cuck.
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>>156496367
Go change your fucking diaper, dude.
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>>156496342
Are you implying that most people here even bother to read those huge autistic ramblings?
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>>156496191
Since you're clearly disappointed with Super's quality (as you should be), what are some of your main issues with it, and what would you change?
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>>156496267
>that gif
My sides have entered orbit
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>>156494642
Who the fuck is Tarble? Some fanfiction character?
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>>156494913
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>>156496388
>wah wah wah stop bullying my /a/ crush waaaaaaah
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>>156496304
. :^) .
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>>156496433
That's Kai you faggot, change the filename.
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>>156496415
Gure's husband.
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>>156496433
What is this supposed to prove? That Z also had shit animation? Holy fuck, tell me something else I didn't know, like the color of the sky.
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>>156496433
Uchiyama was a mistake.
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>>156492591
#PrinceofAllSayans
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>>156496033
super fans have Stockholm syndrome at this point. Any piece of animation that isn't complete shit is amazing to them, as long as it's dragon ball. The Vegito vs Zamazu fight is not as bad as some other DBS fights, but it's still laughable when compared to well animated fights. Besides every hit feeling like it has no weight, the leg thing you mentioned which looks retarded, and how the battle has no sense of choreography, there is the ridiculous punches Vegito threw as hulk Zamasu that look Goku vs Botamo tier, the bitch made final kamhameha that looks pathetic, the stupid way Zamazu gets up after the first hit, which looks awkward as fuck, that embarrassing mid air clash they have were it looks like they're dancing next to each other, and the dumb close up of Vegito punching. It's not an awful fight, but I laugh everytime someone posts a webm of it to defend super's animation.
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>>156496496
Have some respect for the dead anon.
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>>156496503
He's the king
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>>156496459
. <3 .
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>>156496514
I honestly don't think I'd call anything that has been in Super up to this point decent animation, except for maybe a few brief moments of the Goku vs Beerus fight.
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>>156496524
I have no respect for the man responsible for a ton of QUALITY DB/DBZ/GT episodes and also a lot of that really dumb filler arc in Yu-Gi-Oh!, may his soul rest in peace.
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>>156496514
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>>156496548
This game is so weird but it has some cute/nice scenes.
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>>156496605
>That was useless.
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>>156495819
Thanks.
>>156496565
>except for maybe a few brief moments of the Goku vs Beerus fight.
Talking about this?
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>>156496394
In terms of animation? One of the first things I'd change is the fact that it's outsourced to an animation studio with low experience on working on a highly popular franchise. It feels like the animation studio is just there because it "seemed like the cheapest option that could shovel shit out" in terms of figures but it's REALLY clear they have no proper experience in utilizing modern technology to cut down on manpower / increase workflow / budget, whilst maintaining a visually appealing experience.

For most of the episodes the people working on Super don't care about the series, or don't have the passion to make it look good, or to make a mark in history.

However in my previous posts, I'll probably dig them up later, my biggest beef with Super isn't the animation quality, but with how FUCKING BORING the story telling is and how dull almost every single character has become. Almost every character has been dumbed down to a single primal instinct and one dimensional personality. My prime reason with why I dislike Super is the abysmal script and storytelling.

This is ignoring the powerscaling inconsistency that pisses off part of the fanbase, the Dragon Ball universe inconsistencies or retcons, and lacklustre character designs. These problems aren't ranked quite as high up on the "Why Super is terrible" list, but they are still contributing factors.
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>>156496661
indeed. I wish Super had more moments with actual choreography.
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>>156495936
What are you even talking about? Those tiles aren't moving at all, the screen is just shaking. That whole scene was lazy as fuck just like the rest of Super.
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>>156496548
>Trunks tackling Goku like a madman
>Kid Goku completely fucking bewildered
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>>156496686
It's unfortunate that getting old animation teams back together is fucking hard. I'd love to have seen some new Maeda DB shit. Imagine BoG or RoF with World's Strongest-tier quality.
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>>156496737
Are
Are you blind?
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>>156496514
You forgot Vegetto sliding on the ground like it was some ice rink
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>>156496686
I'm not saying that I myself care too much about "Power Scaling" but just because I personally don't care as much, doesn't mean I should ignore the part of the fanbase who does care and tell them to go fuck themselves "For the sake of storytelling". If I was in charge of a series everyone really fucking loved for various reasons I'd be trying my fucking hardest to please most of it and not to tell a portion of them that I didn't give a fuck about them.

Yeah sure I could take that in strides, if the fact THE STORYTELLING WASN'T ABSOLUTE GARBAGE ANYWAY.
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>>156496686
>Almost every character has been dumbed down to a single primal instinct and one dimensional personality.
Holy fuck this. So many characters (Goku, Vegeta, Chi-Chi, Gohan, Videl etc.) have taken a step backward and become complete contradictions of who they were during the latter parts of Dragon Ball.
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>>156496748
>>156496615
>>156496548
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX7rYPJ3py8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueOM-MrjoxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3xZeWVPSJw
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>>156496737
To be fair this scene is equally as lazy, just done by better artists and animators. The aura is animated over a painted background with Trunks plopped on top of it with the rocks not even being subtly put in the foreground in a position that covers up the fact that it's just cheap layers.
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>It's another "GTfags get triggered when someone says something good about Super" episode
Definition of insanity.
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>>156496686

This isnt the Fairy Tail thread.
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>>156496821
>Vegeta
>Step backwards
You're the assblasted dude who's upset over his headcanon with Pan being wrong aren't you?
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>>156496886
>people who think Super looks like shit are GTfags
Nice projection, Pedro.
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>>156496834
cheap as it was the trunks vs cell fight was still better than anything from super
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>>156496932
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>156496933
GTfags are the ones who get triggered, yes.
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>>156496937
Not with a large chunk of it done by Uchiyama. The transformation is fucking nice, at least.
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>>156496970
>being this retarded
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>>156496937
>being this much of a hipster
Nigger Bomato's fight looks better than half of that shit.
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>>156496999
>being this triggered
Two genders.
Pomegranates.
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>>156496753
I'd love me some World's Strongest kind of choreography. It's rare to see a movie carried by choreography alone but World's Strongest did it.
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>>156497047
>muh tumblr meme
Are you 14?
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>>156497070
>Are you 14?
Are you 12?
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what are people's thoughts on this fight scene? I've seen it praised quite a bit but I don't really care for it.
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>>156496806
Holy shit your passion and personality gives me such a hard on. I do agree with what you said though.
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>>156497016
>people that actually believe this exist
why couldn't dragon ball just stay dead
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>>156497113
>no u
At least you tried, kid.
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>>156497172
Spoken like someone who hasn't watched it since they were 6.
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While Goku (v: Nozawa Masako) is recruiting Android 17 (v: Nakahara Shigeru), Gohan (v: Nozawa Masako) visits Piccolo (v: Furukawa Toshio) and has started training. Gohan starts attacking fiercely but Piccolo is easily able to intercept the blows. Piccolo senses that while Gohan has great drive, his attacks are unhoned. Gohan envisions the people he wants to protect, like Videl, Pan, and Bulla, and gains a fierce expression. However, his attack on Piccolo is not decisive, and instead he is finally struck down with a heavy blow. Piccolo tells Gohan that overly strong feelings can be like shackles, and that this was to pinpoint the imbalances in his spirit.
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>>156497186
You've proven my point already. Now go shout how much pomegranates make you upset.
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>>156497209
Binge-watched DB in its entirety last year, and yes, everything in it looked better than the Botamo fight. You're just a retarded shill that thinks newer=better always.
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>>156493620
Newsflash broseph, they don't actually make the dragon balls.

The dragon balls we know are just carved off of giant planet sized dragon balls.
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>>156497232
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>>156497248
You're a moron blinded by nostalgia and incapable of admitting how awful that fight was.

I bet you think the fucking Metal Cooler movie is good too.
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>>156497275
>you must think x because you don't agree with me
Grow up.
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>>156497273
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>>156494888
I did. Although it's been 10 years or so since I last watched the anime. But I always reread some random manga chapters.
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>>156497301
Scathing. Impressive you can post with your nostalgia goggles on so tight.
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>>156496686
>For most of the episodes the people working on Super don't care about the series, or don't have the passion to make it look good, or to make a mark in history.
Fucking this
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>>156497292
Wow this is much better than Trunks vs Perfect cell
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>>156497415
>>156496433
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>>156497456
>>156497490
Dragon Ball has always looked like shit.
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>>156497513
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Original looked like shit

Z looked like shit.

GT looked like shit.

Super looks like shit.

Half the movies look like shit.

This is the best Dragon Ball ever looked.
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>>156497581
>Path to Power
mah ningen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1cCxGOPCXg
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>>156497581
Get the fuck outta here Ajay
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The shills really start spamming how Z and DB were always shit when you call out how terrible super is, don't they? I highly doubt that even 50% of the Superfags ITT have even watched every episode of DB and Z.
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>>156497689
That wasn't me.
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>>156497515
>Dragon Ball (anime) has always looked like shit.

>>156497581
>This is the best Dragon Ball (Anime) ever looked.

ftfy
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>>156497581
>>156497642
horrible toei movie that only has about two good fight scene
yep db is shit and this garbage movie is superior
wtf I love super now
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>>156496267
>GTfags will defend this
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>>156497228
Gohan jobbing to Piccolo confirmed
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>>156497695
Sure thing Paco. Come and enlighten us with your superiority of the Five Minutes, Punches on Repeat, Ki Spam, Uchiyama's horrid """corrections""" and Ebisawa's grotesque character designs, 10 gorillion scenes of dead air and filler.

You're so new I bet you don't even know what Buttlord GT is.
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Tell me, why is he smiling?
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>>156497829
>Ki Spam
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>>156497829
>Buttlord GT
That takes me back...
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>>156497581
the og series has some crazy good fight scenes. everything in the second and third tenkaichi budoukai tournaments is fantastic. fuck off.
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>>156497228
>Piccolo telling Gohan that his Super Columbine bullshit asspulls aren't going to work this time around

based af
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>>156497829
>le paco meme
kys subhuman
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>>156497869
Fucking Brad Time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kr7BKP5amM

Why is Yamcha allowed to have such a good theme with that kickass guitar solo, when he is so shit
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>>156497228
>Gohan that overly strong feelings can be like shackles
After Super Saiyan Rage? Fuck off Toei.
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>>156497856
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>>156497829
>LOOK AT ME IM AN OLDFAG
kekkles
literally any /v/ toddler would know what buttlord gt is
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Why is his hair red?

t. Havent seen DBZ since 90's
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>>156497944
because db toys sell really well in third world asian countries like china so they need to make goku recolors for big profits
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>>156497856
Triggered so easily. It's like clockwork. It's proof you haven't actually sat down and watched Dragon Ball in years. The proof here is in the fucking thread. And you're going to claim "NO IT'S DIFFERENT" but no, no it was the same back then.

>>156497892
>kys
Good job Paco.
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>>156497934
Spoken like a true /v/tard.

You don't even know why I brought it up, do you?
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>>156497977
I've watched pretty much every episode of db/z on immortal's channel last year you fucking faggot. Super is dogshit.
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>>156497918
>There are people who unironically think that looks better than this.
And in 3, 2, 1...
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>>156497997
I haven't posted on /v/ in years. Keep reaching cuck.
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>>156497944
Because Toriyama forgot it wasn't red.
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>>156498025
>immortal's channel
You're serious aren't you? That's cute.

>>156498062
>cuck
Good job on proving yourself wrong so quickly. I don't even need to link your previous post.
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>>156495266
That'd be pointless because you win the tournament as a team not as individuals.
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>>156498025
>immortal's channel
Paco pls
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>>156498082
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>>156497883
>White blood
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>>156498141
>db jap subbed
>paco
what did he mean by this
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>>156498191
DBS characters are filled with pixel dust.
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>>156498212
So you didn't actually watch it then
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>>156498270
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>>156498285
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>>156498256
>>156498285
See? Every time, you run out of arguments and resort to spamming the same things over and over thinking it means anything. It'd be cute if it weren't so pathetic.
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>>156498311
You know damn well what I mean Paco.
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>>156498394
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>>156493813
Think about it like Golden Frieza, the bullshit way power levels and training works in this series, Android 17 that was born stronger than Frieza would be able to achieve a ridiculously high power level by training. Even Krillin could increase his base power by 100,000x with simple training.
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>GTfags at it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZIvtkVkzKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoREfXWiUwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j75gaTN5wNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dReXYx0nIiA
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>>156498415
You prove my point Pedro.
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>>156498482
>Still confused about spic central
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I'm fine with Super's animation but the fight choreography is just terrible.
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>>156498676
>the fight choreography is just terrible.
Agreed
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>>156492897
Vegeta's anger in the manga makes absolutely no sense.
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>>156498191
Gotta censor the gore for all the children so they can see all the titties better.
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>>156498676
RoF and BoG had amazing choreography, better than half the movies and most of Z, but Super only has a few standout fights that come close to the movies.

Really wish they'd just have continued with the movies to be honest.
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>>156493240
The Spirit Sword didn't.
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>>156498726
how do they stretch their limbs? did they learn that from buu?
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Didn't SSJ4 actually lift a whole continent or something? I remember that being pointed out to me awhile back.

But really? SSJ4 for a fucking building? Christ almighty I never even saw that episode. Glad I didn't.
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>>156498836
I'm still holding out on there being movie or at least OVA versions of the Super arcs to do them a bit of justice.
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>>156498913
Nah from Vegeta.
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Everyone step out of the way, best dub coming through:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhGAflWHm7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SODnhRmJsIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNxYHIosQa8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SyWm37vXzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3N_FN1-KqQ
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>>156498982
>they could have just made Vegeta's arm go under
>Nah let's stretch it out m8
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>>156498944
>nice OVAs
>current year
Yeah, good luck.
An edit of the entire DBZ manga where all the faces got replaced by those drawn by psychicpebbles would be priceless
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>>156494091
Nice headcanon, faggot.
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>>156498944
U6 movie would be pretty interesting, could actually animate Bomato's fight instead of photoshop effects, and Kaioken Blue in HD would be a treat.

They'd need to do a Future Trunks as a pair of movies or something. It would feel really rushed if you just tried to cram it all into 2-3 hours.
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>>156499136
>u6 and future trunks movie never ever
They should have just kept making new movies instead of making this abortion known as Super.
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>>156494229
>SSGSS Vegeta has Universal level durability
>""""Dies"""" because the planet exploded and not because /he can't fucking breathe in space/

Nigga...............
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>>156498944
>>156499136
>>156499287
They should do it like Xenoverse 2.

Piccolo fights Bomato and wins easily, tournament becomes a tag-team double match with the CaC and Piccolo fighting Frost and Cabba (Vegeta even specifically tags in with Piccolo instead of telling him to step down), Piccolo saves CaC from poison shit, no "Buu fell asleep," and Goku actually acts like a total bro.
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>>156499449
>Tag team
That... would cut down on the runtime significantly, actually. Could have first match be Bomato and Magetta, then tag in Frost, Cabba, and finally Hit. Yeah I could see a tag team U6 Tournament absolutely being workable as a movie.

But would Toei do it? I mean they shit out a One Piece film every year...
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>>156499120
>being this fucking retarded
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>>156499365
>SSGSS Vegeta has Universal level durability
Nice headcanon.
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>>156494175
That was obviously a lie to test Hit's power some more. The entire purpose of that form is to expel less stamina and turn it into ki.
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>>156499723
>That was obviously a lie to test Hit's power some more
Nice headcanon
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>>156499743
>The entire purpose of that form is to expel less stamina and turn it into ki.
But that's not headcanon you fucking retard.
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>>156499775
>being this retarded
wew
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>>156499287
A series of films would have been awesome.
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>>156498944
>>156499136
>>156499287
Future Trunks movie could be doable, but it needs some major changes from the anime to fit a movie runtime:

>Remove most Pilaf comedy scenes
>Remove Future Resistance
>No Black vs. Goku fight in the present
>Make the retreat more like the manga, no Trunks returning to the present
>Goku seals Zamasu, no Black Clones

Biggest thing is if they give Trunks Super Saiyan ANGERY or not. If they do, that's more time they can spend having Trunks fend off Black and Zamasu while Goku and Vegeta recover, but that's also more time they need to dedicate to another fight.

Plus there's the whole subplot of them figuring out Black's identity and meeting Zamasu. Doing it more like the manga cuts down on runtime, but also cuts down on the suspense.
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>>156500019
The fusion is confirmed to split. Zeno will probably come after he is beaten, and seeing earths wretched state will have him destroy it.
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>>156499686
>SSG has universal level feats
>SSGSS is several times stronger
>Headcanon
Ok.
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>>156500207
>Goku gets shot by a laser but Vegeta getting blown up by Frieza isn't a possibility
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Hey guys, remember when Beerus was supposed to sleep for three years and then Goku and Vegeta would fight with him again?

>Haha lol fuck that how about we make frieza go super duper??

I was hyped for the future of Dragon Ball after BoG, there were so many fucking doors opened up. If only Dragon Ball had a better author.. Akira Toriyama and Toyotaro are REALLY not cut out for managing something like DB without turning it into a fucking mess.

I'll still love it regardless, cause I'll miss it someday.
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>>156500019
If it's a movie then I'm sure they'd give Trunks SSA.
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>>156500259
Toriyama needs another editor that isn't afraid to slap his shit. People are too scared to shit on him because of what he's done in the past.
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>>156500244
>Implying the entirety of RoF isn't absolute dogshit and an abomination

It's still so fucking dumb. What's the point of Goku being a God if him dropping his guard allows him to be hurt by a fucking laser that's weaker than Namek Saga Frieza's finger beams?

That's so god damn dumb. I know it's Ki Control, but here's the thing: THIS HAS NEVER EVER APPLIED IN Z OR DRAGON BALL AS A WHOLE. IT WAS THROWN IN OUT OF /NOWHERE/.

Sure, they can control their powerlevel, I don't give a fuck. But never was it established that any of them having their guard down puts them on the level of /human fucking beings/.

We can both agree on one thing: RoF is shit and a mistake.
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>>156500324
Toriyama is a spiteful fuck. What an asshole he can be. He's in control of one of the biggest and most well known manga across the entire globe, yet he still half asses it and practically shits all over it?

How big of a degenerate CAN YOU BE?
Fucking christ. I hope someone competent stands up to this some day.
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>>156500461
If this doesn't happen in the manga I going to assume that the laser shit was Toei's doing.
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>>156500502
>still half asses it
Hardly. He's not in full control and that's how he likes it but most of the problems this series has come across in terms of storytelling is because either Taro or Toei didn't do as he instructed.
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>>156500502
Posts like this make me pray that butthurt fanboys aren't the ones in charge, ever.
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Reminder

Anime

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!
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>>156500324
>This
If it wasn't for Toriyama's editors the android saga would have been exactly like the terrible android 13 movie. He couldn't write a decent story to save his life after original dragon ball.
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>>156500502
He hasn't been trying at all since the Boo arc tbqh famalam.
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The funny thing about this thread is that it completely ignores context, build up, aesthetics, and audio that work to make some of the lesser quality animations appear much better

A still frame would look like shit if you had no context for it or an environment that it was built on.
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>>156500184
Makes sense. I could almost see the Spirit Sword being something from Toei's usual "Spirit Bomb at the end of the movie" thing, just Goku charging it and Trunks firing it.

>>156500301
Most likely. It's either that or he gets Blue proper, but that's still more fight scenes they need to add to the already long runtime. I guess they could MAYBE fix this by having Trunks get the God ritual before training with Vegeta? It'd fit with the RoF movie better with Vegeta getting the ritual offscreen. With that sequence of events you save time on fight scenes.
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>>156500638
>Addresses how Toriyama doesn't give a shit
>Hopes someone competent will fix this train wreck
>/I'm/ somehow the butthurt one here

?????
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>>156493134
Genkai Dama Kaio-ken Super Saiyan Blue Rage is going to be legit, goku will pull it against the ayylmao because he learned it from tunks.
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>>156499661
Whis flat out says he died due to not breathing in space you dipshit. But please stick to your fan fiction.
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>>156494050
>SS4 Goku vs Building.webm
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>>156500929
>He's in control of one of the biggest and most well known manga across the entire globe, yet he still half asses it and practically shits all over it?
>How big of a degenerate CAN YOU BE?

It's an entitled level of butthurt that doesn't really understand just how lazy he always was. It's the kind of thinking that leads to shit like Absalon, not something that fixes any of the problems. It further puts the blame on one individual instead of the 20 car pileup that it actually is.
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>>156494109
>Toyo will probably do something like that
>animefags will complain it feels rushed 'unlike the original'
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>>156500844
...literally quoting a troll on FUCKING GAMEFAQS as your source.

Please end your life.
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>>156500547
Toriyama wrote RoF from start to finish, it was all his doing. Toei did a patch job to fix it by making him go to base. Toyo just ignored it.
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>>156501113
People will criticise the manga for easy (You)s every chance they get.-
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>>156501137
>anyone that disagrees with me is a troll
buu saga is trash buddy
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>>156500547
It probably is
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So who's gonna be the one to spill the beans about the universe getting hakai'd if they lost at the ToP?

Goku, Gohan, 17, Buu?
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>>156499045

Nah, Goku was just smarter having learned from early experience the importance of range in a fight.
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>>156501293
Gohan.
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>>156499808
>no argument
I accept your concession.
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>>156498726
>Posts just 7 seconds of the fight

Is this a new epic meme?
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>>156501293
A competitor in the tournament. For muh drama.
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>>156501059
Yeah okay, I bet that happened, dipshit.
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>>156500844
>How to be wrong: The Pic

wew
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>>156498726
I don't think we are dealing with the average android anymore, guys.
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>>156501557
>it's just boring into me
>boring
pedro pls go
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>>156501459
I got news for you, buddy. It is an argument. A really fucking solid one at that. Just because you refuse to take the time to do the necessary research does not invalidate shit that everyone already knows is fact. Maybe if you took the time to shuffle your fat fucking sausage fingers around that keyboard you too would understand just how fucking bulletproof my argument is. But you won't will you? You're just going to sit there on your fat, greasy ass with your smug fucking face thinking "oh I got this fucker now. I really meme'd him good!" You don't "got" shit, you insufferable little cunt. You never had shit and you're never going to have shit. I'd google it for you if I thought you had any fucking intention of actually debating me. But you don't and you won't. So why should I waste my valuable fucking time? All you have is your trite bullshit and canned responses. Sorry faggot but that shit isn't going to cut it around here, not when I'm around. Maybe when you grow some balls you can debate me like a fucking man and quit hiding behind your little fucking memes.
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>>156501584
>visible aura
>on a cyborg
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>>156501516
Reminder that Majin Buu is the ONLY enemy to die to spirit bomb
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>>156501949
>JinzoNINGEN
>Not having an aura
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>>156502005
ayy lmao
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>>156502005
Android/Cyborg whole gimmick was that their Ki couldn't be detected and they had no aura though
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>>156494759

This is the single best piece of music ever composed for the franchise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqAh6tMdAC0
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>>156502155
They are humans though. They can still have an aura. Hell 17 had one a couple times when he fought Piccolo.
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>>156502221
Super fucked up. 17 and 18 have no auras and their ki is completely undetectable.
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>>156502221

They have no ki, their power is synthetic. There should be no aura, and there was never an aura for any of them in the manga.
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>>156502221
>17 had one a couple times when he fought Piccolo
He didnt
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>>156502259
>>156502266
They're still humans, Paco. There's no reason for them not to have auras. Jesus Christ this is the most pathetic bit of headcanon. If he didn't have Ki how did he give energy to the Spirit Bomb?
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>>156493813
where was android 17 when buu killed everyone?
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>>156492591
>yfw Goku did it wrong and could've gotten a true/stronger ssg form by doing the ritual after he got ssb
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>>156502334
androids and cyborgs never had god damn auras

holy fuck can we all agree that anyone who spams paco is a toei shill
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>>156502372
rangin parks
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>>156502379
>after he got ssb
No
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>>156494108
Yes
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>>156502259
>>156502266
>>156502302
>>156502394
I swear to god the morons who post this shit haven't read the fucking manga.
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>>156494105
poachers with powerlevels around 15 EACH.
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>>156502449
that's an energy barrier attack you fucking sack of shit
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>>156502489
Barrier in one panel
Aura in the second
Are you blind, Paco?
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>>156494739
>thinking people will fall for that obvious three day vacation bait
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>>156502514
Not him but that's clearly the force field disappearing.
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>>156502514
that's obviously the barrier fading out you failed abortion
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>>156502334
>They're still humans, Paco.

And all of their power is artificially generated, so what the hell does them being human have anything to do with it?

>There's no reason for them not to have auras.

Yeah there is, and it's a pretty simple reason: They don't use ki when they fight.

>Jesus Christ this is the most pathetic bit of headcanon.

It's not headcannon, it's a fact stated in the manga. They have an infinite energy source that is unrelated to ki.

>If he didn't have Ki how did he give energy to the Spirit Bomb?

The same way every other human that doesn't use ki did. You might as well ask how Mr Satan gave energy to the Genki Dama, or why he doesn't have an aura.

>>156502449
>>156502514

The second panel is the barrier dissipating. Hence the sound effect. Piccolo is drawn with an aura, #17 is not.
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>>156501966
You mean Majin Jobuu
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>>156502221
That whole Super 17 arc in GT was so fucking retarded that even the filler arcs in Super are better than that shit.
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>>156502537
>>156502549
>>156502587
It's a fucking aura. Next you're going to tell me Nappa didn't have an Aura because his looked different.

>>156502587
Okay, so what IS this that they're using? What is the stuff Gero and 19 have been absorbing and shitting back out? More importantly, how can 18 use fucking Destructo Disks if it isn't related to Ki?

>You might as well ask how Mr Satan gave energy to the Genki Dama, or why he doesn't have an aura.
Are
Are you retarded? ALL humans have Ki. Fucking plants have Ki. Not all of them know how to use it. It's the entire fucking point of the Spirit Bomb. The attack's name is literally Genki Dama, what energy are they giving that isn't Ki?
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>>156502793
>It's a fucking aura. Next you're going to tell me Nappa didn't have an Aura because his looked different.
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>>156502587
>The same way every other human that doesn't use ki did. You might as well ask how Mr Satan gave energy to the Genki Dama, or why he doesn't have an aura.
nigger you what
of course satan has ki
the whole earth population has ki
why would vegeta be telling goku to use the attack if they didn't have ki
>>
Putting aside the retarded nigger arguing a shield is an aura, it'd be cool if the androids could learn to use normal ki as well as whatever the fuck energy they normally use.

Then again that might make something that's not a saiyan not relevant so Toriyama'd never stand for it.
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>>156502793
>It's a fucking aura.
No, it's not. It's very obviously the fucking barrier fading. You have to be absolutely goddamn pants on head brain shit rock fuck retarded to not understand that.
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>>156502587
>Genki Dama
>元気玉
>気
>ki
I'm being tricked right
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>>156502793
>It's a fucking aura
>calls anyone else a Paco when he's this retarded
top kek
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Goku is a human trapped in a Saiyan's body.
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>>156502587
>>156502793
You're both idiots.

One because you don't know what a barrier is.

The other because you can't fucking read the words you wrote.
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>>156502860

I didn't say he didn't have ki, he just doesn't use it to fight. The farmer with a shotgun has a power level of 5, of course he has key, but does he have an aura when he's shoveling horseshit? Of course not.
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>>156502993
So how does 17 give Ki to the Genki Dama?
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>>156503038
By giving his ki to Goku.
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>>156502835
>>156502921
I'm sorry you're so blind that you can't see what's on the damn page, but it's there.
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>>156503038
much ki
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>>156503056
So 17 has Ki, correct?
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>>156503038

The same fucking way every other non-ki-using human gives ki.

What I'm saying is that if you pointed a scouter at #17 you'd pick up a power level of 5. Does he use ki to fight? No. Does he possess the minute amount of ki that every living creature has? Yes, and that's what he gives to the Genki Dama.
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>>156503056
I am being rused right
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>>156503101
Okay but >>156502266
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>>156503059
I'm sorry you're so retarded that you can't process what's happening on the page.
>>156503093
I certainly believe so considering he can fly and shoot energy beams. He just has no aura since it's artificially created by an engine in his body.
>>156503112
I'm not the guy he was originally responding to. I just felt like stirring up some confusion for the fun of it in the process.
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>>156503138
So 17 could gain an aura after learning how to use his Ki?
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>>156503135

I was obviously referring to the context of a fight.
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>>156503175
No.
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>>156503138
I'm sorry I'm just very confused by this. Hard to tell everyone apart.
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>>156503199
Why not? He has Ki.
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>>156503178
You said they have no Ki, but now you say they do have Ki.
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>>156503227
Artificial ki.
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>>156503241

You're being pedantic now.
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>>156503243
Why couldn't he learn to us the, and to quote,
>>156503101
>minute amount of ki that every living creature has
Like a normal human?
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>>156503272
Because his artificial ki engine is better. Also, I'm not the one that said that either.
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>>156503272
>Like a normal human?

What point are you trying to drive at?
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>>156503271
I'm not even Aura Autist I'm trying to wrap my head around this argument. Can he use Ki or not?
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>>156503303

Can Mr Satan use ki?
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>>156503298
Why not use both then?

>>156503299
Does 17 have Ki, that he can use, train with, get stronger with?
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>>156502220
nah these are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C55vYFOEuwA
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>>156503059
You are literally fucking retarded. You're so fucking stupid you think the multitudes of people telling you that you're stupid are themselves the stupid ones. You're so much of a fucking idiot that you've erected a 360 degree impenetrable dome of pure, concentrated stupidity around yourself that transforms any logic and common sense thrown at it into Idiot Essence, which you then absorb to fuel your own monumental fucking stupidity.

You're really not intelligent at all, is what I'm trying to say.
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>>156503334
He probably does considering a purely mechanical ki engine would not allow for him or 18 to get stronger. But their ki would still be generated artificially and would still not be visible or detectable.
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>>156503333
If he trained for it? Why not? Krillin couldn't when he started.
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>>156503356
If it isn't visible then why are their Ki blasts visible?
Invisible Ki blasts sound like they'd be fucking awesome.
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>>156503382
>Invisible, undetectable Ki blasts
How did you find out about Tien's new technique?
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>>156503333
If he was trained, yes
Videl couldn't until Gohan taught her
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>>156503382
Because ki blasts are concentrated and expelled packets of ki. An invisible ki blast is a kai and extremely weak. Goku used these on occasion in early Z, one of which was right after he used KKx3 and the other when he was toying with Burter and Jiece.
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>>156503326
>Everyone arguing about Auras
>Nobody watched the damn episodes
Figures.
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>>156503429
So what are auras then?
>a kai and extremely weak
I know you meant Kiai but that gave me a chuckle.
>>
OK faggots here it is in plain fucking English.

Android 17 is a human being. That means he has the ki of a normal human being, which equates to a power level of 5.

Android 17's power comes from cybernetic enhancements. He generates an infinite amount of energy that is not ki. It cannot be detected by the characters the same way ki can, and it does not emit an aura at any point in the manga.

When Android 17 gives his energy to the Spirit Bomb he is able to do so because he is human, and can give the same energy every other human can.

There is presumably nothing stopping him from training to use his ki but there is no point because his artificial energy gives him the power of a Super Saiyan which is far beyond anything a normal human has achieved in the series. And frankly I can't think of a plausible way for him to train his ki anyway but I'm not a fanficfag so you guys can knock yourself out.

Now stop with this nonsense faggotry or you all go into time out.
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>>156503451
Aura is just the outward flow of someone's natural ki. It didn't show up that often on base forms unless they were really exerting themselves and were present on SSJ forms until Full Power SSJ because they couldn't control the form's ki enough to keep it all from not seeping out. Androids/Cyborgs have a static amount of ki and don't really have to exert themselves to put out a lot of it, at least not as much as a fully organic fighter.
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>>156503411
>Tribeams you from across the room
>You can't even see it coming
>You can't even sense it coming
>Cell's face when
>>
Lately in the past few threads I've seen people refer to Black as West Black, what exactly do they mean by that, is there another Black besides the anime and manga version?
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>>156503546
haha what if tien had actually managed to kill cell with his tribeams and then vegeta shows up and tien turns to him and says "is that ok?"
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>>156503507
So if he trained, got stronger, better at using Ki, he could have an aura while launching a powerful attack?
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>>156503577
Just some shitty fanfiction. Don't worry about it.
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Reminder that Cyborgs were never depicted with auras in the anime or mango. The retarded Super animators who have never watched or read Z probably thought they had auras because they do in the modern half-assed videogames.
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>>156503606

Yes but even in the best case scenario the attack would be insanely weak relative to the other characters (except Yamcha).
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>>156503606
I guess but on top of being pointless, it'd also be difficult considering he can't exercise and train his natural ki since he already has an infinite, inexhaustible supply of it from his artificial ki engine.
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>"Androids (人造人間, Jinzōningen; lit. "Artificial Human") are robotic/cyborg humans, most of which were created by the evil scientist Dr. Gero. Most of the androids are said to have unlimited energy and eternal life. Due to their inorganic nature, they, or at least the ones created by Dr. Gero, except for Cell (who had Goku and Vegeta's Super Saiyan cells), also have no detectable aura (Cell being the only android that can produce one, again due to Goku and Vegeta's cells integrated into his being"
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>>156503659
What if he used both?
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>spend the entire episode on this dumb Fuck minotour
>rather then wish for the revival of this extinct species, he uses the PLANET SIZED DRAGON BALLS to wish for a fucking boat

Hahaha

WHY?
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>>156503674
Why can't he though? If he has near limitless stamina he could be boosting that normal Ki with training all the time.

Also probably last for hours in bed.
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>>156503701

What would that accomplish?
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>>156503711
>He can fly
>Nah let's take a truck
17 is kinda an asshole
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>>156503728
>If he has near limitless stamina he could be boosting that normal Ki with training all the time.

That wouldn't be training his ki, that would be using his artificial energy.

The only way he would be able to train his ki would be to shut off his artificial energy entirely, which would mean starting from the basics, which would make him weaker than Yamcha was at the very start of Dragon Ball. So what's the point?
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>>156503728
I imagine it would be hard for me to increase my natural stamina by running a lot if I had an engine pumping oxygen into my blood cells. I assume 17 and 18 experience a similar case.
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>Androids can't have aur-
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>>156502425
Yes.

You make it sound like Goku is smart about anything. He's dumb as a rock even when fighting.
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>>156503735
Make himself stronger. Krillin got that Weed powerup.
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>>156503797
>gag character
They should've recruited her for the tournament.
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>>156503812
Only in Toei's Super
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>>156503797
wacky gag manga girl doesn't count
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>>156503059
Hey look, retard
>>156503695
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>>156503823
We've already been over this, you can not rely on a gag character
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>>156493813
That's the problem with Shitku and Jobeta. They keep relying on their blue forms even though Whis repeatedly told them it's better to power up their base form.
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>>156503766
Why are you assuming he has to shut it off? Does he suddenly stop having normal Ki because of his limitless stamina? He could be using both at the same time, especially with a decade of training to himself. Not like it took Yamcha that long to figure it out.

>>156503792
Lot of more exhausting exercise, body can train and get stronger.
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>>156503851
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>>156503695
>Wikifags
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>>156503866
Heck, Goku's not even bothering anymore. He's just spamming kaioken like a retard.

Sure he can just asspull another transformation. But someone else will just come along and prove his methods wrong again.
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>>156503868
>infinite stamina
I could build up my muscles by lifting heavier weights but as far as building stamina I wouldn't be able to since it's already infinite. It wouldn't matter if I ran faster or harder, I wouldn't be tired no matter how much I did in that case.
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>>156503797
She should have gone Super Saiyan against Vegeta just to piss him off even more.
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>>156503912
So you would get more strength without getting tired. No wonder 17 got so strong.
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>>156503695
Apparently only Goku and Vegeta can produce ki? Who wrote this shit?
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>>156503947
Pretty much. It's unfortunate that the androids only got two fights total that really showed off how much of a threat infinite stamina and never dropping energy were before Cell took over as the main villain.
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>>156503868
>Why are you assuming he has to shut it off?

Because that's the only way it makes sense.

Characters in this series increase their strength with resistance training.

Say 17 wants to get started by benching 40,000 pounds. Well his measly human ki can't do that, so he needs his artificial energy to do it. So instead he wants to bench 200 pounds, which is physically possible for a normal human. It's a no go because his artificial energy can throw around 200lb like it's nothing.

So how the hell is he supposed to train and increase his ki while using his artificial enemy?
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>>156503823
Shit this actually be one she could do well in this. Might break the stage in half at one point though.
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>>156503969
Cell has a yellow aura and Super Saiyans characters are the only ones in the entirety of Z that have yellow auras. I think that was implying that Cell had SS ki.
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>>156503994
>Characters in this series increase their strength with resistance training.
What? No. They can do all sorts of shit. From drinking pain water to having an old slug touch your forehead to having an old geezer dance around you to meditating.
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>>156504035

You're listing all of the very rare exceptions to this rule.
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>>156492963
He always seemed to have some kind of gay undertone.
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>>156503994
Use Jinzoningen energy to help himself train ningen energy. Duh.
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I don't understand how strong super saiyan blue is

At one point it's planet annihilating and at another a jobber can stop his kamehameha

Super Saiyan 2 feels stronger then blue

I don't believe that no.17 can last against Fucking beerus
I refuse this
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>>156504072
dude Goku could figure the last one out
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>>156504076

But you're not explaining the logistics of how that would work.
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>>156504113

Goku wasn't increasing his strength, he was learning to be a better fighter. There's a difference.
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She's here.
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>>156504123
You just keep assuming that the two have to operate separately. 17 still has a human body that still repairs itself as a normal human body does. 17 can still take damage, which means he can still improve physical strength as a normal human would, but at a much better rate because of his artificial power. His natural Ki would still improve with any modest amount of training because he's still training his body.
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>>156504173
>Cabba-kun
>BRING ME MORE MEAT
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>>156504325
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>>156504173
is
is she naked
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>>156504272
>17's training consisted entirely of smashing himself into cliffs in order to strengthen his body
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>>156504123
Only facts we know so far (according to Toriyama) is that both 17 and 18 can train and become stronger because they are still humans. He also said 17 has great potential.
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>>156504173
cute
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>>156504272
>You just keep assuming that the two have to operate separately.

Yeah, because that's the only logical conclusion to this.

>17 can still take damage, which means he can still improve physical strength as a normal human would

This not true, because his power doesn't come from his muscles. If he does some intense gravity training like Vegeta he's not going to improve from it because he's not using his body, he's using his artificial energy. His body has to shoulder the load, otherwise it's not going to be affected. The fact that he can sustain physical damage does not automatically mean that his body will sustain the specific physical damage needed to stimulate muscle growth.

This is like asking why Superman doesn't just work out like a normal person. The answer is he doesn't get his power from his body, he gets it from the sun. If he goes under a red sun he loses his power and he can exercise his body but it won't have any effect on him once he goes back under a yellow sun because the solar power is what shoulders the load.

To use an even simpler analogy, you don't get in shape by pretending to run while you're riding in a car even though you'll get injured if you drive into a brick fucking wall.
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>>156504397

I don't take anything Toriyama has said in the last 15+ plus years as canon. The 42 volumes of the manga are canon and that's it.
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>>156504451
>The 42 volumes of the manga are canon and that's it.
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>>156504325
>BRING ME YOUR MEAT
ftfy
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>>156504355
I fucking hope so
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>>156504426
Where do you think 17's power comes from? His cyborg improvements ARE his body, not a bunch of metal rods or pins inside it. It's why he can use Ki blasts without opening up a laser cannon on his arm like Mega Man. He doesn't need to see a mechanic every time he gets a scratch, it heals naturally. He still bleeds. His body is still human, as human as 18's is and she had a damn baby. This is not at all like Superman or a car, 17's improvements are purely internal and mostly organic, because again, we know they're human enough to have kids. 17's body can still take damage and repair, just as a normal human's can, but at a far better rate because of his enhancements.
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the last episode of the series that i watched was 67th, is it worth watching the filler too? from to 68 to 76.? thx
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>>156504607
>as human as 18's is and she had a damn baby.
This is a good point. Pregnancy means you gotta devote resources to things like bone and muscle growth.
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>>156504709
No you can skip it if you want literally nothing important happens
You can watch it if you just want some goofy shit though
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>>156504709
It has the best filler since Driving Lessons.
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>>156504451
This anon had the right idea. Everything after the 42 volumes is just bad Toei fanfiction.
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>>156504709
Lemme give you a rundown of them:

>68
Bulma wants to build a Time Machine, King Kai wants Goku to revive him, and a ton of characters want to ask Shenron some wishes.

>69
Arale kicks Vegeta's ass.

>70
Yamcha saves the day with Baseball.

>71 & 72
A Goku falls in love with Hit. Unable to confess he is gifted with a hit on him from Vados...

>73 & 74
Gohan becomes Saiyaman again for a movie with the Champ, a handsome man tries to kek Gohan but Hilda from Pokemon falls in love with Gohan.

>75 &76
Krillin is tired of being such a jobber and trains with Goku to git gud. Roshi sends them on an errand to get him weed.
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>>156493537
Of Bulma cheated on Vegeta I think he'd be devastated andprobably hurt the other person so much. He loves that woman with every fiber of his being and her him.
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>>156504982
>Hilda from Pokemon
After all these years of waiting, she finally got in a show.
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>>156505064
Not dressed slutty enough desu
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>>156504982
You forgot to mention that handsome man is Barry Khan, who gets infected with Reddit and goes Super Saiyan 4 against Gohan.

Luckily Super Saiyan 4 is such a jobber form that even Gohan can defeat it.
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>>156504847
it took me a minute
but then I loved it.
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>>156504847
This episode alone is better than all of GT.

Fite me.
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>>156505142
>Luckily Super Saiyan 4 is such a jobber form that even Gohan can defeat it.
holy shit
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>>156493119
He's gonna have to be redesigned. Obviously they haven't dropped him as they specifically mentioned him last episode, but nobody wants to see a street shitter. If they intend to bring him back and do more than job occasionally, he's gotta be redesigned.
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>>156505172
F**k y*u. The beauty water arc is better than GT
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WAKU WAKU NO
>>
New thread never
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huh, I finally figured out the reason present 17 & 18 were stronger than future ones.
Gero stated that he originally had more of their programming focused on the energy output, and it made him not be able to control them very well.
Given the way the event went in the present timeline, future gero wouldn't have scrambled off in a panic and turned 17 and 18 on, and had time to make the adjustments, lowering the power to try and control them.
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and so I pray...
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>>156505093
Cocoa is pure.
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>>156505982
>>156505982
New thread faggots move there.
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