Gate isn't nearly as bad as you lads made it out to be

I really enjoyed it. Especially seeing an entire trained and fully equipped soldiers get destroyed by machine guns and seeing the awe and terror in everyone's faces. Where was that helicopter scene from?

>>156423294
>Where was that helicopter scene from?
Apocalypse Now.

>>156423173
Americans just hate being villified without getting some kind of advantage even in a Japanese harem show.

season 3 never ever

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It was fine.

People objected to the part where Delta Force and Spetsnaz and PLA special forces were all made out to be bumbling morons who have never heard of night vision goggles, so that the JGSDF could look awesome.

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>>156423173
Like you said a complete and utter domination of another world with no good set up or conflict
MC is an Otaku but is classified as a good solider

Nothing in the series feels like it has weight in what's happening lowering the drive of attention

>>156423173
Character designs in the anime were shit.

>>156423391
That's why I love it
Japan hasn't been able to be proud or strong militarily in decades.
Give them a chance to indulge, the way things are going they might get some more toys and money from Uncle Sam in the coming months
>>156423399
Agreed on every point

It's so absurdly puerile. It's wanking so hard that the dick has come off.

B-but america

>>156423478
Sounds like you might be too smart for anime my man, might I suggest books, travel and language study

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Do I spy a motherfucking GATE thread?

>>156423173
>Do you guys hate fun or something?
just butthurt Amerifats

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>>156423173
>Otaku MC
>shitty version of mixing modern shit and fantasy shit
>JSDF masturbation

but please, go ahead and do your 'it's just fun' defense because that's all that you have

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>>156423391
it was stupid but look at every rambo movie where helicopters get blown up by goddamn bows and arrows

who gives a fuck its a cartoon

rory also a best

>>156423399
>MC is an Otaku but is classified as a good solider
Ins't that part of the joke? Most of the characters react the same. You may not find it funny but it is an anti-trope executed pretty well.

>>156423635
>military masturbation is bad
>saying that while living in a country where video games fellate the military
okay steve

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>>156423596
I didn't think it was bad I just didn't think it was intresting or was able to successfully keep my attention very well

It's just incredibly average all around and having fanservice be a focal point of a incentive to watch is just retarded when I just watch porn

>>156423399
Prime minister is an otaku too. Japan invented human rights and won WWII with one samurai.

>>156423596
I mean, 'murrica is pretty frequently the bad guy in anime. I just smile and nod.

"Love thy country but hate thine government"

Waiting to get v@

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>>156423676
I can hear her voice.

>>156423686
>having fanservice be a focal point of a incentive
I never thought this once. Fanservice being a main incentive is the point of school battle harems like IS or DXD. The anime has like one bath scene.

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>>156423686
*just can watch porn

Also finding all of these things in this post is pure autism >>156423596
>actually visiting Reddit
>actively reading fanfiction.com
For shame anon

>>156423680
Meh at least American game devs bother to give the virtual arabs aks Gate flat out gives the jsdf a 2000 year tech advantage of course they curb stomp

>>156423720
And that's why Battle Harems have almost always been the lowest form of anime entertainment

>>156423714
examples? besides gate of course

>>156423738
just a simple google search to set proof

>>156423173
I enjoyed the show a lot but never dipped into the manga/ln until after the show.

Unless you are a /k/ fag or really strict about adaptations the show is fine.


>>156423342
merrican here, it wasn't so much that aside from every /k/omrade was a fucking aussie tier shitposter in the threads

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>>156423173
>>156423676
Instead of making it anti-trope, why just make a good version of the trope? Why not just have an actual band-of-brothers-esque military adventure without the necessary crap like isekai/mixing with fantasy shit/ having the need to put cute girls?

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>>156423718
best VA
best party member
best waifu
best demigod

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>>156423391
here is the thing, from the original webnovel, the americans are actually badly equipped for the mission. the guys they have are mostly former soldier mercs hired by the CIA, who only just saw 1 tour of duty in Afghanistan. the only legit operator in the American team is the leader who is ambidextrous. you can see this in the anime, where the men are young as hell, while the leader is the only gruff guy, but this little detail is lost in transition from the WN to LN to anime.

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>>156423773
Then why the fuck do you care what Reddit thinks?
Enjoy what you want to enjoy and I'll state what I dislike about it. That doesn't make either of us wrong

>>156423747
this isn't a detriment to the series

>>156423768
gate isn't even a harem.

>>156423803
would that even sell in japan?

I liked the Manga better since it was drawn by a military Otaku with a retro artstyle.

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>>156423747
And it's so much fun to watch.

>>156423391
also, for plausible deniability, they got equipments and clothes from local gunota store. the guns are the only ones they smuggled in, so the lack of nv equipment.

>>156423173
Of course a modern army would default a medieval army, with 100's of years of technological innovation and the evolution of military tactics and strategy. Along with a much larger natural resource availability and population to grow the forces, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. I can't even find the fun you want me to not hate. I'd have fun if the reverse premise happened, with knights, wizards, orcs. and dragons or whatever opening a portal and using magic to overwhelm our military's armed forces and occupied a city or country, and earth had to unite against this much more powerful foe.

>Type 89, M9 Nip Uzi, FN Minimi, all prominently used
I can get the same from plenty of games. Sure, the M9 is a bit rare, but any anime that shows the JSDF will have 89's, and the Minami / M249 is quite popular as well.

>Solid character designs
>F a n s e r v i c e
From what Google is showing me, I'm not seeing anything special.

>JSDF actually gets to see action
>Recruiting propaganda
I admit, you got me there. I'd personally like the Americans to permanently withdraw from Japan, especially Okinawa, and we can't really well have that without Japan growing it's armed forces and their budget. Full steam ahead, GATE.

>>156423803
>Why not just have an actual band-of-brothers-esque military adventure without the necessary crap like isekai/mixing with fantasy shit/ having the need to put cute girls?
Because those already exist and nobody else has made isekai/mixing with fantasy military themed books.

>>156423431
>Japan hasn't been able to be proud or strong militarily in decades.

They are though, they're the 4th or 5th naval power. The population for the most part has 0 interest in projecting force however.

>>156423850
I know but that doesn't change the fact that Battle Harems aren't shit

>>156423840
I worded that part poorly:
You can list what you like and I can list what I dislike, but that doesn't make either of us wrong

>>156423803
why remove the things that make GATE, GATE?

>>156423840
Because /a/ is reddit central already. And I refuse to post in that shithole.

>>156423803
because every one in Japan, Tomino included will have a massive bitchfit "FEUDALISM AGAIN, BLARGH!!!"

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>>156423803
>an actual band-of-brothers-esque military adventure

Right here.

>>156423901
To make a good product

>>156423901
I don't know, ask them >>156423596
If they wanted to write straight military novels with fantasy elements they're free to publish their own too. I don't understand the need to bash the author's writing, race, and preferences because you don't agree with it.

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>>156423821
This anon knows his shit.

>>156423829
>CIA
>Agency that decides to give one of the most important missions in its history to shit tier mercs.
Choose one. Even if SAD SOG was busy, they can easily divert Delta/DEVGRU, especially for something as important as that mission. Hell, pretty fucking sure the Green Berets and normal SEALs could've done it.

>>156423173
Just wait until you get to the bayonet outranges spears and cuts through armor scene.

>>156423895
>I admit, you got me there. I'd personally like the Americans to permanently withdraw from Japan, especially Okinawa,
why

>>156423933
I mean, you do have to remember that Japan is a nation where the Navy basically took over the country. That shit leaves a bit of a bad taste in everyone's mouths.

>>156423898
The navy is beefy, everything else seems crippled

How many of the youth do you think would be fit for service in the event of a draft?

>>156423173
It's because the anime is super watered down and changed the designs to shit.
We wanted the ultraviolence of the manga (which, incidentally, is what war is actually fucking like), not neutered trash.

>>156423894
You can buy NV for pretty fucking cheap at any outdoors store. And I have hard time to believe that the CIA couldn't find a way to bring in more military gear, considering that the US has literal bases in Japan.

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>>156423862
The one page that started it all.

>>156423173
it wasn't even fun after the first two episodes as it turned into one dude in a jeep with his shitty harem

>>156423992
The Muhrines I know who've been stationed there hate it.
The people don't like them much and it's hot, a lot of the time.
If we leave, the Japs are gonna have to pull their weight and maybe the youth will give a shit again
>>156424022
>Cheap
>Wearable NV

>>156424007
And even then the novels it's based off are supposedly toned down from the original web novels.

>>156423962
just go rewatch band of brothers or make reddit-tier fanfiction where Americans win or something

>>156423960
>band of brothers
That's a gay boyband

>>156423962
>good product
Gate sells merch, got an anime, vol 11 is releasing this October so it's a good product
Meanwhile (((well written))) work such as Salvation War or Rome Sweet Rome don't got movies or push merch so they're shitty products

>>156424000
>JGSDF is crippled
>has a cutting edge MBT, an active stealth fighter project, 150k well trained personnel, and good domestic versions of most important equipment.

>>156423173
I think the only part that really triggered people was the hot springs visit.

>>156424007
HO-LEE-FUK
The manga looks 100x better
Definitely dropping the anime and reading the manga for the duration

>>156424050
A few thousand dollars is nothing for the CIA.

>>156424090
>people
please exclude the ruskies and the chinks
only one country was autistic enough to get personally insulted

>>156423895
>with knights, wizards, orcs. and dragons or whatever opening a portal and using magic to overwhelm our military's armed forces and occupied a city or country, and earth had to unite against this much more powerful foe.

There's that one clip of a bunch of archers shooting a hail of arrows against a bunch of apaches. I think it was from a video game, but it was anime.

>>156424075
>Gate sells merch, got an anime, vol 11 is releasing this October so it's a good product
By that reasoning, the Bay Transformers movies are some of the best films ever.

>>156423986
this story takes place in 2006, where america is occupied in ME. even the president admits he can't meddle too much because they are spread too thin.

the only available people they have is some CIA SAD in Japan. and they dont want to use the people in okinawa, because they needed more plausible deniability.

>>156424133
You said good product, not best film or best written
A good product is something that sells
Stop moving goalposts you mong

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>>156423173
>Otakushit masquerading as 'muh military'

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>>156423991
This one?

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>>156423984
A BEST

>>156424119
I don't think there are that many Russians or Chinks posting on /a/, and Chinks will never stop being butthurt at Japan anyways.

>>156424136
>is occupied in ME
Not all SOF teams are deployed at once you know. They rotate deployments.
>CIA SAD
Which draw from Delta and DEVGRU, so they should be more than enough capable to subdue the nips.
>>156424150
I'm a different fag, anon.

Gate shows how truly pitiful and inferior the Japanese consider themselves to be. America makes movies about the US military defeating alien civilizations that have vastly superior technology. By contrast, the Japanese in their popular media portray themselves defeating primitive civilizations having vastly inferior technology. It's like Japan lost all its confidence and national pride after WW2 or something.

>>156424136
>couldn't use the WMD excuse
>couldn't use the chemical weapons excuse
>couldn't use the Bin Laden excuse
Americans should really have had an excuse ready so they could use the Okinawan detachment

>>156424007
>It's because the anime is super watered down and changed the designs to shit.
>We wanted the ultraviolence of the manga (which, incidentally, is what war is actually fucking like), not neutered trash.
You do realize the manga is itself an adaptation yes? The anime designs are based on the light novel designs.

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>>156424171
Rory always made things more exciting.

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>>156423618
>>156423869
This is just kind of depressing.
What's exciting about watching such a one-sided fight?

>>156424050
>If we leave, the Japs are gonna have to pull their weight and maybe the youth will give a shit again

They have one of the biggest military forces out of any developed nation.

>>156424180
I believe Chinks are banned from posting unless they have a pass, but I get the feeling there are plenty of slavs running around.

>>156424233
>What's exciting about watching such a one-sided fight?
Americans seem to enjoy it when it happens irl though

>>156424198
Well, they got beat pretty badly. Don't worry. Shows like GATE show they're ramping up the nihongo nationalism in preparation for the 2nd Korean War and a Sino-Americna War.

None of this bullshit would've happened if the author actually put some thought into how the nips could've actually won against three tier 1 SOF teams. Depriving the Rusians, Chinese, and Americans of basic equipment was not a good excuse.

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>>156424231
dragons are spooky

>>156424304
Kinda always assumed that every country hired mercs with no ties to them outside word of mouth and with no documentation leading back to them. Not to mention they were also trying to focus on killing someone who was obviously not caring about their bullets.

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>>156424233
Not everything goes so well.

>>156423773
Hrmm... Summer wars off the top of my head. The Guild in that Detective anime. Erm, that one with the powers tattoos... Mostly it's a theme of American companies/Government backing an antagonist. There actually aren't that many examples of America directly being the big bad.

>>156424233
There's a certain satisfaction in seeing the life drain and the determination get flushed from a human face when they thought they had an absolute advantage only to be completely and unequivocally slaughtered.

>>156423173
Its just... I dunno. They could have done SO MUCH MORE with the setting. Like some real threats. I don't think i've ever felt so let down by an anime.

>>156424412
>>156424263

Im american, I can confirm

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I miss the fun we had in these threads.

>>156424469
This pic remains and excellent meme.

>>156423342
The KGB and the SEAL Team got blown the fuck out without killing one Jap.

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>>156424412
In that case, wouldn't it be better to make a show about time traveling legionaries going up against modern day special forces?
I'd watch the heck out of that.

>>156424000
none because they want to be with their waifus and at lest more than half of them are otakus

>>156424263
We don't enjoy it, just sorta got used to it.

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>>156424502
Don't mess with Rory.

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>>156424610
this is now a rory thread

GATE IS SHIT

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>>156424705
there is nothing wrong with her show

>>156424263
The war we focus on the most in history is the one we're we fought back against the #1 super power of the world when we were severely outgunned

>>156424686
>>156424610
I've always been incredibly turned off by Rory because that's my brother's name

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>>156424705

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>>156424412
That's not fun, that's just sadistic. It sounds like the same reason why some enjoy rape porn

>>156424193
yes, but they are very much occupied by a lot of things during that time

>ASG group in Philippines with Taliban ties
>splinter NPA muslim groups
>splinter Taliban groups.
>observing Bin Laden
>standby troops because of brewing SEA trouble

thats just a few
and pro tip: there's a reason why America forces VFA too much in Philippines. america is bad at jungle environment. all war games in philippines, americans got beat by bunch of flips SAF and Rangers with wearing nothing but army fatigues and M-16

>>156425073
>americans got beat by bunch of flips SAF and Rangers with wearing nothing but army fatigues and M-16

for real? i know flips are known for jungle warfare but this is too good to be true.

>>156424136
What happened to the "two and a half wars" doctrine? If the ME alone is enough to tie up all their resources, how is America supposed to fight WW3 where they would have to fight Russia in Europe and China in Asia simultaneously?

>>156425173
Not him but the real problem was they had no idea who the enemy was and sent people into death marches essentially.
They didn't want to kill everyone because if they wanted to they could burn everything to the ground

If you've seen Good Morning Vietnam Robin Williams' character sums the problem up nicely:

[impersonating an Intelligence Officer] We've realized that we're having a very difficult time finding the enemy. It isn't easy to find a Vietnamese man named "Charlie." They're all named Nguyen, or Tran, or...
[himself] Well, how are you going about it?
[Impersonation] Well, we walk up to someone and say, 'Are you the enemy? And, if they say yes, then we shoot them."

>>156424162
they ruined her
whyyyyyy

>>156424136
Can not shake free 8 operators out of the whole military, espionage, PMC business.

Right.

>>156424227
The point about the censorship stands. I would have preferred it come out in an OVA rather than general broadcast solely for the purpose of preserving the violence, and nudity, and gore, such as it is.

Honestly, the series probably would have been more fun if they didn't bring the politics in personally.

I mean it's great that they didn't skip out on it but did they really need the "Nippon Banzai!" part?

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>>156425173
there is a reason why America loves to train their troops in various countries.

even the flip president duterte said that the joint exercises in the philippines only benefits americans.

just imagine this, america invaded an island where there is no enemy present, and still lost men

>>156423596
To be fair, the Spetsnaz and PLA Special Forces also being that stupid doesn't make sense either

>>156425554
correction, PMC who only got 1 tour of duty in Afghanistan who thinks they are hot shit.

>>156423173
I enjoyed gate, but in a popcorn kind of way. It was really dumb, and kind of cheesy but not everything tries to push the boundaries on chinese cartoons or whatever and that's totally fine.

>>156423399
>MC is an Otaku but is classified as a good solider
What's wrong with this exactly? I'm in the military but I love robot cartoons, I don't go bringing it up outside of /m/ or whatever, but I've met a decent amount of people who are in the military that really like anime and shit, he wasn't even a "good" solider in the traditional sense but the designated lazy troop to make sure the rest of the group stayed in check, sure he'd go out slaying dragons and crap but it was mainly because he got egged on by his death god waifu.

>>156423173
I had fun with it but the JSDF wanking was bit excessive, then again alot of anime have blatant nationalism. Every country has their media wank themselves, and just accept it.

>>156425971
Because it's an obvious pandering, it's their way of saying "this character is just like you, audience!". It's just a blatant excuse.

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>>156425971
>>156423399
>>156426066

>they didn't know that most men in JSDF are NEETs that joined the army to fund their hobbies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_1YNxMeRf8

>>156426066
Do you not think people in the military are allowed to like things? I work with a pilot who fucking loves Macross but has never brought it up at work, I knew a MP who got a divorce because he got orders to go to japan and his wife didn't want to go, but he was a literal weeb and it was his dream to live in japan so he got her marked for emotional abuse and got out of the marriage just to go to japan and buy gunpla and shit, and I know an army infantry who constantly watches anime. It's not the average by any means but there's a decent amount of people who happen to like chinese cartoons, I'd imagine slightly more people in japan would feel positive about anime or manga.

>>156424233
>This is just kind of depressing.
>What's exciting about watching such a one-sided fight?
Sometimes it is important to realise that soldiers are no joke.

It's like with those crazy people who think the Attack on Titan monsters stands a chance against modern machineguns. Modern armies get shat on so much that there is a misconception that they are completely useless. This is made worse by grossly misrepresenting real life weapons. For example, making helicopters attack giant monsters at melee range. Like, what the fuck?

Ever since GATE aired, I kept reading posts of people who genuinely believe that the JSDF is a much of weak sissys. Well too bad, modern armies don't fold against men armed with swords and horses. That was two whole World Wars ago.

>>156426447
they also don't know that Japan is on the top 10 armies of the world since they have to build an army that can fight against China, best and worst corea and Russia, all at the same time

>>156423412
I'll agree on that. Manga Rory is best Rory.

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>>156426302
>got her marked for emotional abuse and got out of the marriage just to go to japan and buy gunpla and shit

>>156423173
It's pretty terrible. Writer tends to go on long winded right wing based scenes to the point his publishers told him to tone it down. Most of the military men are utter retards on all sides.

By about the halfway point I found myself wishing half the cast would get themselves up and shot and the politics are utterly god awful.

>>156426447
That's more general military autism. If you have to show how powerful the military is by tossing them up against horsemen and men in metal armor there is a problem.

Let alone when you consider piss weak dragons and demigods.

>>156423391
Yeah, as if we've NEVER seen an american action flick where the bad guys are all unrealistic bumbling morons. Oh wait, I bet you fucking retards actually believe that it's realistic because that's the propaganda your media feeds you.

>>156423173
It wasn't bad, only Americucks hate it because they actually lose to a professionally trained military in their own hometurf instead of simply rekting them like what they do to barely trained backwater sandniggers.

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>>156423596
If it was actually good and plausible, then they wouldn't mind. No one is hating because our hero's a JSDF you stupid fuck. It's because of the stupid cringe-tier wanking that goes on and on. Now I don't know or care what Reddit thinks, but generally that's why people get a negative reaction. It's because most people are generally aware the JSDF is not nearly this stronk irl, and even the most cursory investigation shows the author is part of the fucking stupid tier of JP nationalists.

No one would have minded the firefight if it had been written half competently.

>>156423829
>CIA SAD
>"""former""" soldiers
>one tour (when Japan has had no actual tours)
>mercs

You're reaching hardcore. You ARE aware CIA SAD are basically the baddest of the bad? They're the CIA killteam dudes, the ones who when someone absolutely has to bite the eternal dirt nap, they're called, and who borrow from all the Tier One groups like Delta, who are the guys sent in to kill and extract on a routine basis. Just accept the author is a nationalist hack who would die irl even before the radio operator because he's a bumbling idiot.

If you'd actually have talked to people deployed to Japan or who've trained with the JSDF, you'd know that generally opinions aren't all that great. High tier units are alright, but that's it. From observation, even the Americans national guard and reserve units are more operationally ready and able to fight hard than most of the JSDF land forces.

And even if it was mercenaries, besides South Africans and Brits and the old legends like Neal Ellis or Eeben Barlow ready to rejoin the game, you do know most of the top tier mercs are Americans, who for the most part are multi-tour veterans, right? The Navy and AF generally are good quality, but that's it.

Fee fees and wanting to be a badass are not a replacement for actual skill.

>>156426906
I thought the issue was China/Russia/America were all fighting each other while the Japanese sat on superior folded 1000x times fortifications taking pot shots while the special forces guys all fought each other because it was a mission thrown together at the last second that they didn't know what the fuck was going on when three teams moved in at the same time?

>>156426810
American here. Luckily I don't watch bullshit implausible action movies because some people have taste.

>>156426906
>You're reaching hardcore. You ARE aware CIA SAD are basically the baddest of the bad? They're the CIA killteam dudes, the ones who when someone absolutely has to bite the eternal dirt nap, they're called, and who borrow from all the Tier One groups like Delta, who are the guys sent in to kill and extract on a routine basis.

Honestly for me what really annoys me is how they simultaneously made three of the top world powers look like idiots military wise and politics wise. I wouldn't care as much if it wasn't for how effortless he tried to make fighting off some of the top kill teams in the world via Plot power.

>>156426066
>>156426302
Military in general here are extreme weebs. They're actually the ones who formed a lot of the manga/anime fanbase in America way back in the day, since they'd been exposed to it deployed in Japan. And all those old fansubs on VHS and manga imports were because of troops and sailors bringing the goods back stateside or through the PX.

>>156426768
Oh yeah, the politics were dumb as fuck too.

>>156423173
>Do you guys hate fun or something?
The threads were unbearable because butthurt burgers couldn't comprehend that a silly Japanese cartoon would jerk off the Japanese military and so they shitpost them into oblivion.

Gate was a lot of fun though and Lelei was incredibly cute.

>>156425073
>america is bad at jungle environment
This is true, hence the Vietnam war

how can the manga be so comfy and interesting and the anime feel like some shitty badly-written self insert shit?

I dont understand how can I enjoy the mango so much and get so bored with the animu thats all.

>>156426447
>I kept reading posts of people who genuinely believe that the JSDF is a much of weak sissys.
Oh boy there's a lot of that in r/gate
Especially that one dude who's had one tour in Iraq

>>156427132
Most of the people in this thread are yelling about burgers getting mad but I hardly see any actual burgers getting mad. You are part of the problem

Wow, fights that are unrealistic in an anime? What a fucking twist! Clearly this was specifically designed to disrespect the glorious empire of Britannia and could not possibly be because anime is often unrealistic.

>>156427237
>says he doesn't see burgers getting mad
>several posts mad about the hot springs firefight because CIA are baddest of the bad

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>>156425054
>not enjoying rape porn

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>>156427237
>tfw GATE is so shit, it creates nothing but shitposting about military autism

oh japan, you're very funny

>>156423399
>>156426066
>MC is an Otaku but is classified as a good solider

After talking with a close friend in the marines, a lot of them are weebs. When you're a young on a ship with not much to do, anime is a great timekiller. And that's not even considering those who are stationed in Japan. Said friend's brother who is also in the marine spends his free time building gunpla and other models (and getting wasted of course but that's to be expected of the military).

>>156427207
>self-insert
this meme again? remind me when I have a military career and a wife who loves me.

liking anime doesn't make me pvt. hiiro weebu

>>156427339
When you're a young man* on a ship

From what I gathered, it was anime, some western TV shows, a few games, and porn that occupied their free time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjAXJaFydwM

Can anyone take Japan's military seriously?

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>>156426906
I'll concede from that. CIA is so bad. just look at these great dead CIA agents.

You know, if your fee fees are hurt, its ok. CIA isnt that good actually. Theyre the intelligence agency that after all, declared there are WMDs in Iraq and 4chan killed more ISIS than CIA by helping the russians locate the ISIS training base from the training video ISIS put out

>>156425054
Sadistic things are fun though.

>>156427415
Navies are always gay anon. Anyone who refers to themself as "semen" is not straight.

>>156427428
shut the fuck up america is invincible

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And then a Rori cosplayer inexplicably shows up in Dick Tracy.

>>156423173
The first few times they mowed down those soldiers was oddly satisfying, despite it being one sided as fuck. It got boring afterwards though, there are hardly any challenges that the JSDF faces since most of their opposition are bumbling retards. If the whole thing was more focused in a particular direction, be it military autism, harem shit or politics, I think it could've been better than whatever we got.

>>156427512
In the Navy!
You be cramped inside your bunk!
In the Navy!
You will want to use your junk!
In the Navy!
Go outside and lookout!
In the Navy!
Because otherwise you'll pout!
In the Navy!
You'll never see the sea!
In the Navy
Cause you ex is full of jealousy!
IN THE NAVY!

This show was fun, and worth the watch. You're allowed to have your own opinion anon, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

However, if it is that Rory isn't best girl you should kill yourself

>>156424524
So they travel through time to get slaughtered?

>>156426768
>That's more general military autism. If you have to show how powerful the military is by tossing them up against horsemen and men in metal armor there is a problem.
You see, your comment don't make sense when it is normal for swordmen to somehow cut down rifled infantry in anime. When archers somehow manage to shoot down planes. When artillery was ignored entirely.

The fact is no one has a problem with wizards and gods killing modern soldiers. We DO have a problem with the average men armed with swords, metal armour and bows, somehow standing a chance against modern arms.

And GATE easily justifies itself because if gods and wizards are powerful, there would be no need for swordsmen. Swordmen would become extinct if they are outclassed, at which point you no longer have a medieval army. You would just have a magical army instead.

>>156427220
Fuck off Redditor.

>>156427814
It's damning when people think the show only wants to portray modern military against "weak" opponents.

Magic in that world isn't viable because scientific research hasn't gone that far yet.
Hence the viability of ancient Roman empire infantry.
And we know how strong swords are vs guns.
That's why the curbstomp.

But people still wanna believe the author just wants to wank his military.

How insecure can someone be?

>>156423399
Yes it's a story without the ultimate payoff but it's just that type of story, it can exist and there was enough to care about in the process: dark elves getting fucked up because untrained, the way rory cares about the mc, revenge for the slave girl, the way little girl believed in promised husband from nippon etc.).

Yes, stories where there is an ultimate confrontation between two sides and where it's all about the underdogs fighting the seemingly futile fight are more dramatic and are "proper" but gate was refreshing and extremely enjoyable precisely because it wasn't a proper story. It could have also had higher stakes and all that but it would have an entirely different ride and both of them deserve to exist.

As for otaku stuff i mostly took it as a gag. I don't enjoy all the "we otakus am i right lmao" but from what i've seen there is much less of it compared to manga and it wasn't distracted, even more it was often enjoyable for me like when the connection between the mc and the minister of defense was revealed.

>>156423173
The premise bored me since I knew where it was going with the Japanese supremacy thing and the visual direction with those weird split cuts rubbed me the wrong way. Wasn't for me.

>>156427934
>Magic in that world isn't viable because scientific research hasn't gone that far yet.
>Hence the viability of ancient Roman empire infantry.
>And we know how strong swords are vs guns.
>That's why the curbstomp.
>But people still wanna believe the author just wants to wank his military.
>How insecure can someone be?
Ironically it is because "my swords!"

We all know the old meme about how the Japanese worship the katana, that katana can slice tanks in half and what not.

But it is clear there is almost just as much romanticism about Western swordsmanship. That some people get offended at Knights being murdered by artillery shells.

The horsemen with sabres was still a thing at the start of WW1. But even those aristocrats either gave up or died when the trench warfare started. Romanticism is good, but only in small doses.

>>156427934
>Hence the viability of ancient Roman empire infantry.
I think the anime went with the medieval Holy Roman Empire actually

>>156423173
Some people bash the shows they like so that the argument keeps the show relevant long enough for other people to pick it up. Source: tricked a couple of anons into watching some of my favorite shows by forcing an argument.

>>156423399
This, the MC is a fucking boring otaku.

>>156424075
People like shit, shocking right?

>>156423803
This.

>>156428677
If my shit sold dollars, then I could care less about what butthurt autists thought about it.

while GATE isn't perfect it's several tiers better than Outbreak Company. now that was total otaku wankery garbage

>>156425073
>america is bad at jungle environment. all war games in philippines, americans got beat by bunch of flips SAF and Rangers with wearing nothing but army fatigues and M-16
So how did America win the Philippine-American war?

>>156425751
>this country became a superpower with other countries sucking its dick
lol

>>156428978
>>this country became a superpower with other countries sucking its dick
America just managed to profit from two world wars without suffering infrastructure damage. That was the only reason what America became a superpower, no other reason. Americans just don't like that fact and attributed their superpower status to their "inherent superiority".

Gate would be much more interesting if the empire was a late-19th century equivalent industrial power. I wonder how a small SDF unit would perform against an experienced battle-hardened Victorian-era British army despite the technology difference?

>>156428872
Yeah, be like Stephenine Meyer.

>>156429053
>Gate would be much more interesting if the empire was a late-19th century equivalent industrial power. I wonder how a small SDF unit would perform against an experienced battle-hardened Victorian-era British army despite the technology difference?
They would die to the JSDF the same way unprepared outdated armies die in WW1.

What do you think the JSDF are? Are you mocking them?

>>156429047
Sounds like excuses to me
Why would this be?
If I remember correctly both Britain and the Soviets were begging for supplies and for America to enter the war.
Plus at the Tehran conference Stalin admitted that if it wasn't for American supplies they would have lost to Germany.
Kinda like how they got their asses handed to them by Finland lol

>>156429092
She can't hear you over her millionaire bank account.

>>156426066
Back in basic training, I heard a guy in my platoon loudly singing a JAM Project SRW song while he was scrubbing the toilets.

>>156429212
And her name will be forever remenbered as the creator of a shitty wish-fulfilment series just like GATE. Your point?

>>156429159

A late 19th to early 20th century equivalent of the British Empire will have access to heavy artillery, automatic weapons, telegraph and early radio communications. They would also have the means raise, equip and transport massive armies using the resources of the entire planet. Even more important, they would have the ability to gather intelligence on their foes and develop countermeasures and workarounds to compensate for their deficiencies. While 21st century technology will obviously vanquish 19th century technology, it won't be a curbstomp unless Japan is willing to rebuild the Imperial Japanese Army and send it through the Gate to mount a planetary invasion. Whether the Japanese public and the rest of the world would accept that would make the story even more interesting.

>>156429315
>their names are forever in history
Wow I wish I could be the same as them
Than be a best writing author without a dime to my name

>>156429184
>If I remember correctly both Britain and the Soviets were begging for supplies and for America to enter the war.
>Plus at the Tehran conference Stalin admitted that if it wasn't for American supplies they would have lost to Germany.
You are talking about winning the war, which has nothing to do with the fact that America ended up wealthy because every other nation went into debt and lost most of their gold reserves to America.

Was Ameririca important to the outcome? Yes. Did America become a world power because they ended up ahead at the end? Also true. And none of it had anything to do with American superiority. It was just that America didn't get its cities burned down.

>>156429363
But America was superior. They obviously have to be because they didnt get the cities fucked. I'm kidding, We just lucked out.

It has 0 depth. The entire thing is just JSDF steamrolling everyone without challenge. The magical world has nothing to offer us, it's all just them amazed by everything we can do. It's the Ecstasy Darks of foreign relations.

>>156429338
Oh my god. You really think the JSDF are a bunch of stupid primitives. I guess there had to be one showing up in a GATE thread sooner or later.

It seems you don't know how pathetic pre-ww1 armies were.

>>156429345
Some people have more self-respect than you or Meyer anon. I know it is a difficult concept for you to understand, but please try to understand

>>156429388
they have gods

>>156429420
>self-respect of a small number of autists matter more
when everybody else respects you for what you've achieved who gives a shit about critics who probably won't even buy your shit? Please try to understand lmao

I really liked jokes about Nanking and Unit 731

>>156429338
t. anon who played BF1

>>156429390

Nope. I just understand that real war is often more complicated than which side has the best toys. Even if the not-British Empire in this scenario gets bloodied by the Japanese and decides not to engage them directly, they'll just send someone like TE Lawrence to start an insurgency in areas the Japanese control to wear them down over time. It's called asymmetric warfare. You may have heard of it.

>>156429442
>a small number of autists
I'm sorry, did lovecraft only have fans in a chinese internet imageboard? He is the very definition of an underrated novelist in his time yet today he is regarded as the founder of cosmic horror. Are you really this retarded?

>lmao
Kindly off yourself

>>156423294
How could you forget the helicopter scene? Literally one of the only scenes i'll rewatch over again by itself

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>>156429442
>meyer
>respected

>>156429566
I know lovecraft-san didn't earn shit when he was alive. What's the use of money after you're dead? Are you a cuck?

>Kindly off yourself
Lmao

>>156429603
Lots of moms and teenage girls respect her for catering to their fetishes, so in a way it's indeed bait, just not to us

>>156429363
>You are talking about winning the war, which has nothing to do with the fact that America ended up wealthy because every other nation went into debt and lost most of their gold reserves to America.
Sounds like America won the game
You only have yourself to blame
Thanks for the money lol

>>156429608
>cuck
Maybe you should try to learn what that word mean first before making a fool out of yourself.

>What's the use of money after you're dead?
You people are the reason shitty garbage like this exist. Some people write story because they want to tell a story, not getting quick bucks from autist such as yourself. Again, kindly off yourself.

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>>156423173
It's dumb fun mixed in with a very small percentage of /k/ realism, exactly how I like it.

Just like GuP, really.

>>156429698
>what that word mean first
You should go back to spelling school.

>Some people write story because they want to tell a story
Are you implying the author didn't write Gate because he wanted to?
I'm just saying a best-selling work is better than a best-written work. You can't eat criticism but money buys you food.
That's why that nigga HP Lovecraft died hungry and lonely. That's what you get for being an autist about quality.
And it's not even that Gate is terrible lol.

>Again, kindly off yourself.
Your high blood pressure seems to be rising, careful you don't die of an aneurysm lol.

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>>156423399
>MC is an Otaku but is classified as a good solider
You don't know how many weebs are in the army/marines/navy/chair force, do you anon?
Answer: A good percentage.

>>156429363
>America ended up wealthy because every other nation went into debt and lost most of their gold reserves to America.
none of it had anything to do with American superiority.
When you put it like that it sounds like they outsmarted everyone and made a killing doing it.

>>156429748
>You should go back to spelling school.
And you should learn shit first before using word you don't even understand.

>I'm just saying a best-selling work is better than a best-written work.
And that refute my statement how? You do realize this sort of attitude is what made people wrote shitty wish-fulfilment series right?

>>156429772
No wonder US is getting its ass kicked by a bunch of poorly-trained insurgent.

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>Why do you hate it?
Because it glorifies Jap military too much. I dont mind nationalist jerkoff but GATE takes it to the next level.

Its not even nips being good, everyone else just acts like a retard. Its fucking horrendeous without drinking authors koolaid

>>156429851
>And you should learn shit first before using word you don't even understand.
>no you
lol cuck-kun

>And that refute my statement how?
Was I refuting anything that you said? All I said was that I wouldn't care if my work got the worst Imdb and Metacritic scores in the world so as long as it sold well. Because in the end, writing is still a living for writers and foolish pride won't fill your stomach.

Criticizing work for quality is not a bad thing. But when you start to act like it's everything, that's when I shut you out.

Gate is entertainment, first and foremost. I wouldn't be watching/reading it if I wanted a dissertation on the finer aspects of literature.

>>156426536
I thought only Japan's navy is good, the JSDF isn't too hot right now

>>156429870
They just dont use the tactics they used on the Native Americans and Filipinos anymore.

My only problem was the reduction of the gore.

>>156428955
That war was false, Spain sold their territory to the US and faked a war so the natives wouldn't rebel against them.

>>156429951
>lol cuck-kun
>no u
See? I can do that too.

>Was I refuting anything that you said? All I said was that I wouldn't care if my work got the worst Imdb and Metacritic scores in the world so as long as it sold well. Because in the end, writing is still a living for writers and foolish pride won't fill your stomach.
And all i said is that your attitude is what make series like GATE and Twilight exist.

>5 hours ago
did best korea antics cause people to watch war theme anime or something to have GATE threads gathering this much replies other then the usual propaganda mojo then fantasy world and rory then quickly dies.

>>156429772
I bet those fags are just in logistics

>>156430082
>See? I can do that too.
And we're continuing on doing this until your autism flares down, cuck-kun?
It's the right usage btw.

>And all i said
No no no, you weren't that calm. You were REEEEEing on me for having that mindset because I didn't bite the bait the way you wanted me to.

I'm sorry if you were expecting someone who would say Gate is good literature and imagining the verbal thrashing you would give him, instead getting somebody who acknowledged the flaws and still say that it's done good in another area.

>>156430172
>>156430082
I dunno what you two are arguing about but fuck off already
Go find a room

>>156430188
I'm sorry I'll check into my hotel room now.

Cuck-kun can get into my bed and suck me off if he wants. I'll be moaning quantity over quality repeatedly as does it.

>>156430172
>It's the right usage btw.
Your own delusion doesn't count

>No no no, you weren't that calm. You were REEEEEing on me for having that mindset because I didn't bite the bait the way you wanted me to.
Is typing words such as "kindly off yourself" count as losing your shit? Are you really this fucking new?

>I'm sorry if you were expecting someone who would say Gate is good literature and imagining the verbal thrashing you would give him, instead getting somebody who acknowledged the flaws and still say that it's done good in another area
I don't know that mastrubatory power fantasy count as good but whatever float your boats. Also nice projection faggot.

>>156423173
Bashing abbos is not fun unlike bashing terros mate. JSDF have it easy. Guns vs swords and arrows, yeah sure sounds like real interesting like taking candy from a baby.

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>>156427814
actually, all the mages except for the court mage are dead. most of them died during the 7 day siege on the battle of two bridges (most of them killed by swat snipers using the tanegashima slots inside the castle) , then the rest of the mages got blown away by the howitzers when the empire tried to retake the alnus hill.

>>156423173
I genuinely realy like gate, despite the fact it objectively has many, many flaws. I just wish there was a better grasp of overal geo-politics (why isnt the UN heavily involved in this?) and an actual interest on the part of the world at large that fucking MAGIC exsists beyond the gate.

>>156430347
>why isnt the UN heavily involved in this?
They are. Just that they only wanted to investigate when Alnus and the surrounding areas were peaceful.

>>156423173
This is stupid, in reality USA would sell the Empire guns and equipment for oil on second day the Gate opened

>>156430347
>an actual interest on the part of the world at large that fucking MAGIC exsists beyond the gate.
China forged an alliance with Diabo for that very reason since the US failed in direct pressure and blackmail.

>>156430443
>This is stupid, in reality USA would sell the Empire guns and equipment for oil on second day the Gate opened
That would require US military occupation of Tokyo. And that meant invading Japan. That meant declaring war on Japan.

This is all cool and interesting, but did Nanking happen?

>>156430576
>That would require US military occupation of Tokyo
US military already occupies Japan, JSDF can't stop US army from walking though gate and carving piece of land for themself

>>156423173
>Do you guys hate fun or something?

The MC works for a living to fund his hobby.

This is a foreign and scary concept for /a/ :^)

>no katana wielding shounens cutting down tanks and parrying artillery shells

Fucking dropped.

>>156430576
>That meant declaring war on Japan.
Japan is american slave and can do with Japan whatever it want.

>>156423895
>I can't even find the fun you want me to not hate. I'd have fun if the reverse premise happened, with knights, wizards, orcs. and dragons or whatever opening a portal and using magic to overwhelm our military's armed forces and occupied a city or country, and earth had to unite against this much more powerful foe.

I remember there was a GATE thread on /co/ and someone mentioned a title where a bunch of wizards either took over the world or were a big danger by using mind control magic etc.

>>156423173
I enjoyed it but the ending was horrible

>>156430576
And that right there is why Americans who are mad that the author didn't write the US storming Tokyo are retarded.

the those "visions" the mc had when he ran into the pole. was that ever explained?

While I am fond of military anime, I can't get over the fact that it feels like one huge ad for the JSDF

>>156425054

>implying

>>156431326
>While I am fond of military anime, I can't get over the fact that it feels like one huge ad for the JSDF
What did you think the JSDF was before? Because the only reason you would feel this way is if you actually think the JSDF were children playing soldiers.

How else were they suppose to be portrayed? As clowns? Rapists? Cannibals? What were you expecting?

>>156430959
no, that was just a shitposter that claimed, that the empire would have mages that took down helicopters by mind control.

the mages in the story working for the empire are dead. most of them died due to sniper fire in the 7 day siege of battle of the double bridge. the rest died due to shelling when the empire tries to retake Alnus hill.

the only threat the JSDF had was during the empire alliance with the animal tribes since the prisoner rescue operation almost got the whole empire army killed.

most of the threat came as the chest burster tribes. and thats it.

>>156431326
>I can't get over the fact that it feels like one huge ad for the JSDF
I do not see how this makes the show less enjoyable.

>>156431317
the gods in gate world blessed him. he's favored among the gods in SR

>>156423173

Definitely some of the most fun I've ever had watching anime. Wish the LNs had active translation.

>>156424412
>human face
serial killer alert

>>156431500
>>156431518

how far has the anime got into the source?

>>156429515
>starting gorilla warfare against the Japanese on foreign soil
You are not the smartest one are you

>All the pictures of Rory are her shitty anime design
I wish the series never got an anime.

>>156428012
Wasn't there a guy who charged into WW II with sword and bow? And survived.

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>>156432375
Jack Churchill.

>>156431846

I think you're confusing the JSDF with the Imperial Japanese Army. Hint: The IJA no longer exists.

Somehow I doubt the current Japanese defense forces have much experience with counterinsurgency warfare. They would probably have to ask America for help and in Gate I don't think that help was forthcoming.

>>156429515
>start gorrila warfare
>on territory people don't really like you
>against enemy who can locate all your troops because of superior communication and logistics
Without help of Chinks/US/Brits/Russia they have no chance

>>156432418
no shit!

>>156432418
Truly, the last man among men.

>>156432465

What bizarre reality is this where the Japanese conquer an area and all the inhabitants instantly love them? I don't recall that working out so well in China and the Philippines. I think Gate tells us more about how the Japanese view themselves than about how capable their so-called military is or isn't.

During the Iraq War it was said the US would be greeted as liberators with candies and flowers. It didn't quite work out that way and the US has a far more capable and adaptable military than Japan could ever have.

>>156430007
Sure thing.

>>156425751
Every country has stories like that though.

>>156425173
Flips win in unsupported infantry only jungle combat, Americans win in literally every other situation hand's down.

>>156432654
>What bizarre reality is this where the Japanese conquer an area and all the inhabitants instantly love them?
It is obvious that you never watched the show. JSDF never conquered any area, they deliberately did not occupy any existing territory. The only city that they were in was built AROUND the portal military base after the fact.

>>156432654
not all the inhabitants loves them. just majority of the ones who they saved. Then rumours start to spread how they are treating people. We're talking about peasants here who despises the empire. Essentially all they were doing was keeping to themselves.

Because US's reason to invade was utter bullshit.

>>156429649
Her book is a meme now, I don't think many people respect her.

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If you want to watch a JSDF propaganda show, watch a good one like Zipang or Yomigaeru Sora instead.

>>156423173
>Fantasy land gets BTFO by occupation
And there lies one of the main faults if the series

There is no tension

>>156424233
Jerking off to muh guns

https://youtu.be/G30xZxJLR8U?t=189

>>156424075
It's already in the process of fading into obscurity, soon enough it will have lost all apeal and then it will join all the other bog standard fantasy harem shows. See the problem with relying on all these tropes is now it's nearly impossible to tell Gate apart from the average ecchi/harem fantasy adventure, it's only unique factor is it's military component and that's boring as shit because the show has to jerk the Japanese military off every 10 seconds. The only people this show could possibly appeal to at this point is fat losers who like to jerk off to little girls and nationalism, not a very good product.

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>>156424380
mng all the caramel elfs geting grilled and kebabed
dumb cunts didnt listen to Itamis instructions making "we wuz kangs" and shity dick jokes

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>>156425367
At least when Drifters do it it's fun

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>>156423869
>they still use rifle grenades

>>156433431
different strokes for different folks

>>156427428
You really think the CIA believed that scapegoat? It was just a way to rile up the American people, make them think they were saving the world. And by your standards every single intelligence agency sucks cause they've all made mistakes, like the CIA.

>>156433515
And there aren't many of the folks this show is marketing itself towards, otaku's are a dying breed.

>>156426768
>If you have to show how powerful the military is by tossing them up against horsemen and men in metal armor
This is actually good way since modern military is grossly underestimated in in animu in particular. They do the same with plate armor but I've seen knights more useful hell lot more than tanks or planes.

I actually dream for the day a good contemporary tech vs magic kingdom war story is made.

>>156424862
You mean that time when the number 1 super power of the world was busy fighting France and France so happened to supply you with men, guns and supplies to fight them while they were busy fighting on two fronts halfway across the world from each other?

>>156433814
I think kikewood is actually making a film about a 'Murrican platoon being sent back to ancient Rome and fighting the Legions.

>>156427526
>shut the fuck up america is invincible
Well it surely is to every power outside.
The only thing that can destroy America is America itself.

>>156433869
I want something good anon not jewywood shit.

>>156433511
they got to use only old equipment the uperaps didt want to sent new machines - probably so they don lose them when the gate get closed or somthink like that it was explayned in the manga - they got all the old stuff thats disposable thats why there are only 2 phantoms, old tanks etc only new stuff they got was the mrap from the us - even they were refubrished from iraq or afgan.

>>156423680
Military masturbation is boring though, watching the JSDF explode and gun down hundreds of thousands of people who have next to no way of fighting back gets boring halfway through the first battle, not to mention it makes all the JSDF soldiers look like ruthless psychopaths, honestly I would try every single one of them for war crimes.

>>156433924
>crimes in war
go away britbong

>>156427428
>CIA is so bad. just look at these great dead CIA agents.
That's nothing, you should see the other intelligence agency

>>156423964
I suppose you've never criticized anything ever then, right?

>>156423173
the entire game is propaganda for JSDF

>>156425751
In almost every battle in the pacific the Japanese had two or three times the amount of casualties.

>>156423173
Still doesn't change the fact that the author is an right-wing nutjob who longs for long-gone Japanese imperlism and militerism.

>>156432375
Yes and also J.Churchill was the last guy to make a confirmed kill with his longbow in a war.

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>>156433948
I'm a leaf.

>>156433948
Not that Anon, but War has always had conducts dating back to the old days. Women were not to be killed and to be captured to the best of ability, killing them would get your ass whipped or killed.

During the days of Napoleon Wars if your ass targeted a civilian area and unleashed an artillery shell on it, you would have your ass court martial and sit trial in front of military judges and depending on the damage be dishonorably discharged or worse.

Hell back in the 15th century a German knight literally failed to command his soldiers in the upper rhine and they pillaged/raped the shit out of it. The knight was found to fail in his duty as commander and beheaded.

American Civil War even had a confederate German officer convicted and hung for the horrid status of prisoners in the POW camp.

War has conduct and civility in it. There exists crimes in it.

The dragon slaying episode was pretty brutal, dark elf qts got slaughtered and no one give a shit.

>>156433869
>>156433910
>Detroit gets sucked into some kind of space-time wormhole - resulting in them founding the kingdom of Ancient Egypt and establishing a lasting dynasty of Kangz and Queenz.

Still better than GATE.

>>156426768
>>156427082
>>156427814
>>156428012
>>156430339

I think it would be a nice change if the JSD met a country ready to oppose them in some legitimate way. Like an independent country that's advanced in terms of magic and can fuck em up with making barriers strong enough to handle missiles, using spells for transportation, enhancing armours to withstand bullets etc.
Maybe even going full Chaos and making deals with demons/Gods to get better infantry.

>>156434226
war itself is a crime in a civilised world but not in a lawless one. The SDF committed no such thing. All they were doing were defending, themselves and people who asked for help. Muh feels isn't enough excuse to prosecute, that is someone in a perfect world with no jewrats

>>156424162
How the hell could she push a guy that big?

>>156434627
*someone, that is
excuse my typos

>>156434673
those tits helped with the momentum

>>156434564
This would be pretty much the only way to make GATE interesting. This or a SECOND gate opens up somewhere in the world and from it spews forth an even more advanced alien race. Or another worlds superpower beyond the level of the USA.

Suddenly the JSDF is forced to work together with the denizens of the fantasy world in order to stop the overwhelming enemy force hellbent on conquest. They compliment their platoons with mages and are forced to call in help from the USA/CHINA/Russia/EU to prevent not only the invasion of the "special district" but also their own world through their own gate.


Instead we'll get more of the JSDF genociding natives armed with medieval weaponry from the comfort of an attack helicopter.

>>156434627
>Lawless one.
Anon in Rome if you fucking sacked the shit out of a village you were supposed to take over and burn the crops you would be hung or beheaded.

The empire had laws itself, it had a sense of honor when soldiers met to fight the enemy.

SDF had rules of war they were supposed to follow. The "Everything beyond the GATE is Japanese territory" and military occupation of a holy site is a declaration of war against a state who didn't know what one of their regiments was up to because communication and command responsibility is not on our level and can be considered a conflict.

All in all. The JSDF occupation and declaration of ownership before formal establishment of relations with the Empire is for all intents and purposes War of Aggression without formal Declaration to the opposing state.

Heads up. When two countries were at war with each other back in the day, they did send a letter to the other ruling monarch/head of state saying "We're at war faggot." and sometimes they'll tell them where they would do battle. (Something the JSDF didn't do.)

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>>156434810
>SECOND gate opens up somewhere in the world and from it spews forth an even more advanced alien race
I don't know, I think it would be too much. But a second gate for either of the other world superpowers would be nice. This, or Japan would start extracting natural resources in fantasy land and other countries would begin asking questions from where they come from and maybe Nips should share 'or else'

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>>156425751

My favorite scene is Bozes being told she has to take barbarian dick for the sake of the empire.

>>156434830
>Heads up. When two countries were at war with each other back in the day, they did send a letter to the other ruling monarch/head of state saying "We're at war faggot."
The Emperor didn't send a letter either. The JSDF established a defensive forward base in enemy territory at best.

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>>156434564
actually, the JSDF is holding back a lot. I think you are underestimating the power of modern weaponry. even the diplomat said it to the king, we are fucking holding ourselves from killing you, would you like to try to attack us again

machine gun bullets has pressure power of 60000 psi and has velocity of 3000ft/s and can fire 600 of it in a single minute and has a range of 2.5 km. thats insane. thats 3x the power of a jackhammer with a speed of flash and can kill you before you even know there's an enemy

if you want a medieval setting that can withstand modern weaponry, it will be so ridiculous like Owari no Seraph, where archers shot down attack helicopters.

Gate's story and tension is not in the battles, but in Japan trying to make peace with an enemy who doesn't want it.

>>156434627
>>156434830

America seems to be committing that crime with zero problems whatsover.
Bombing someone army base or city is an act of war no matter what bullshit you use to hide it.

>>156435261
Empire has no WMDs or Sarin gas

>>156435457

>>156435261
> America is the only country in the world with vested global interests
uh. WRONG. But keep drinking that commie kool aid kid, they can always use more useful idiots.

>>156423173
It was the author's wank fest with having everyone else act like a retarded to win combining with the worst trends found in LNs these days, an utter bore fest especially after the first three episodes.

For anyone in this thread who very much enjoyed GATE, please go read the Destroyermen series.

For anyone in this thread who very much disliked GATE, please go read the Change novels (or Emberverse but that's a retarded name).

>>156435798
Thanks for the recommendation anon. I've been looking for something to read, much appreciated.

>>156435798
For anyone who wants the converse of GATE, go read the Three Body Problem series.

>>156435244
I know, and that's insane. I still remember episodes of Stargate where main cast one shoot natives or people from different time periods.
Even WW1 weaponry is OP compared to anything medieval.
That's why I think the author could let himself to do an asspull with magic shmagic to balance it out at least a little. I remember they used silence magic to put that great dragon's head in the palace, my wild guess is if they have silence then they probably have invisibility. You can't shoot what you can't see and you either walk with thermovision goggles 24/7 or artillery bombard whole area. Its a fantasy world, and it probably has minerals unknown to mankind so a stale idea of armours from materials strong as titan but lighter could work.

But yeah, nothing could stand modern military going full power.

>>156436323
>nothing could stand modern military going full power.
This. I mean. Unless someone grabs a bag of golf balls and starts golfing from orbit. Then humanity is pretty much fucked.

Are there anymore of ancient people being awed by current tech? I love this stuff, but so little exists of it.

>>156433869
Isn't that the old story someone wrote on the forums or some chan about an american airbase somewhere in Italy sent back in time that never got finished? I vaguely remember someone saying that the author was contacted to write a scenario for the movie

>>156424502
Yeah because they took each other out or went against a demigod

>>156426302
>got her marked for emotional abuse and got out of the marriage just to go to japan and buy gunpla and shit
This reminds me of a couple who are hardcore weebs who nearly went crazy when he got orders to go to japan

>>156426244
Most people in the army in peaceful countries are just there to fund their hobbies, I did the same shit to fun my gunpla madness

>>156436932
>some chan
It was reddit, but nice acting

Season 1 was great but season 2 was disappointing. Especially the OP.

>>156437372
Do i look like Reddit to you

>>156423173
I loved this, if only because of how much it triggers the burgerlanders

>>156424376
But one of the mercs was black, and only one country on the planet uses black soldiers........

>>156423173

Why Lelena and Rosy are traitors of her world?
Now they are japanese mercenaries

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>>156438284
I loved that scene.

>>156427220
Fuck off to reddit you shitty 10h old poster.

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>>156437064
>against a demigod
Why Rori has powers on earth? Why she's able to steal human souls in Japan, why Jesus didn't suplex her

I would've liked it more if it was a fantasy Vietnam war, complete with the struggle of not trying to fuck everything hard with technology and trying to win the support of the locals.

>>156424304
>>156424376

The whole scene didn't have to happen if the author understood diplomacy beyond stonewalling and military force. The quality of US equipment for a CIA hit team is irrelevant if the US perused a course other than violent action against an allied power, and even in the "limited" time of 2006 the US had substantial nonviolent pull. The US had military contracts, joint exercises, force agreements, trade deals, etc. that could have been up for negotiation to get what they wanted. All of these things would have been sufficiently compelling for the real Japanese government to allow access, but instead the author just has Japan stonewall all diplomatic channels to create a contrived scenario in which the US has to deploy an under-equipped CIA strike team at the exact same time the Chinese and Russians do the same.

Speaking of Chinese and Russians, even though those two lacked the robust military and economic relationship the US and Japan have, they still had more subtle methods of dealing with this scenario. So for me this whole scene was less "how did the JSDF beat three special forces teams" (because that's obvious, they had a literal invincible demigod on their side, all other factors are irrelevant) and more "why are they even fighting in the first place." The whole thing just feels too contrived.

>>156440547
>Vietnam war
>winning the support of the locals

You are sipping the koolaid a bit too much.
Americans bomb the ever living fuck of any villages they saw regardless of civilians casualties due to snipers keep targeting their officers.

They never intended to win locals support, with exception of the elites who already migrated to California.

>>156440688

The big flaw with America's Vietnam strategy is that while the top level brass was about winning "hearts and minds," lower level officers were just given kill quotas and almost carte blanche on how to achieve that quota. Couple that with promotions being based on your ability to get those numbers and you have a bunch of guys who should be making friends with the local villages instead burning that hamlet to the ground and counting all the bodies as VC kills (and on top of that the air force pilot who dropped napalm would get credit along with the artillery team that supported them in addition to the infantry in the field, leading to a small village becoming 3x the population in dead VC).

Now add in the fact that the average enlisted conscript doesn't give a shit about either of the two goals above ("promotions are for career military, so fuck that and anyone who sends me into danger for a shiny new insignia") and just wants to go home, and you can see how nobody who was in a position to win over the locals ever bothered trying.

The US managed a bit better in attempt no.2(.5 Iraq) by not establishing kill quotas, but again mistakes were made in other categories leading to years of occupation and insurgency.

>>156434627
>muh war is already a crime

Fuck the hell off you autistic /pol/fag neckbeard. Everyone who isn't a pedantic sperg knows exactly what is meant by war crime.

>>156434830
>GATE is an allegory for a romanticized Japanese conquest of China and Korea
>JSDF STILL committing war crimes

>>156440688
In theory, their strategy was actually about winning support but in practice, it was basically nonexistent save for very few instances, hence when I said "trying".

I just wanted to see some actual struggles in the story outside of blowing the fuck out of everything with sheer force and overwhelming tech.

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>>156424233

In terms of narrative excitement... it isn't fun you could say. It's kind of like playing vidya with cheat codes... the lack of challenge just drives you to not care.

However what WAS fun to see was that for once an anime tried to adhere to the real life TPP of combat, which is to have absolute and complete tactical superiority over everything. It is sweet warfare distilled to its absolute finest, in that way.

Anyone here who was a previous grunt (I know there are a handful of you /a/ssholes out there) or with combat experience knows what I'm talking about. They don't teach you to fight someone on level ground in a fair fight. You arty, air strike, and sabotage that motherfucker the best you can then further pound them into oblivion without even letting them ask "how?"

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>>156423173
only thing worse than the pacing of season 2 was the opening

>>156441172
So just make a new Stargate season instead of some bullshit fantasy history that make no sense and are full of shit.

>>156424469
But that's a leopard 2

>>156442025

That's the joke. That's also not an American airframe either.

>>156434673
>>156434725
she was coming from an unexpected direction. the movement that did occur involved him recovering his balance from the surprise force. she killed him before he could recover. it's actually quite reasonable, just looks stupid.

>>156441088
That post didn't mention anything about China and Korea and conquest.

It was talking about the conduct of war and its declaration.

>>156423173
Dumb /k/ poster.