Dragon Ball Super

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Which westblackfag wants bubblegum dick first?

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>jap
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/856833307614613505/pu/vid/640x360/zjsgkXYY47uG67PL.mp4
>eng
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/856771438707183616/pu/vid/640x360/JzrQP5xX45NQ738t.mp4

What went wrong?

>>156365259
DELETE THIS

>>156365262
Xenoverse's localization is shit
The actual English dub will most likely have better voices
..........I hope

is manga better than anime?

>>156365262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLXCfEASMpg

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>>156365262
That's so awful

>>156365332
Fuck off

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What did he mean by this?

>>156365262
He meant that this is supah saiyan rohzay goku blagh

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>>156365259
Fuck you, anon.

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>>156365097

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>>156365446
>dub Black goes from Batman to a Brit when he transforms

BLACK GOKU FOR PRESIDENT

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>>156365259
>implying that pink bitch would stand a chance against literal beauty as she is now

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>>156365411
Being toranksu is suffering

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>>156365262
BANE?

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MAI!

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>>156365411
I want to be fucked by Goku BLAGH.

>>156365411
>>156365540
>>156365574
What would Gowasu think about this?

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>>156365540
Wow poor Trunks

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If you're still debating powerlevels/powerscaling, fuck off. Why fuck off? If the producer of the god damned show doesn't care about consistency, then that's it, it's done. The arguments are fucking dead.

Is SSB Goku holding back? Against Krillin? Yeah, it's obvious Krillin can't hold his own against Base Goku alone, this was already proven.

Is SSB Goku holding back against 17? Fuck no. It's obvious with all the Hype they had around 17, they intended for him to be near that level. This SSB Goku which went through hell and earth against Goku Black and Zamasu, fought a God-Level version of his race's killer, and has even fought a God Of Destruction and lived to tell the tale, struggled against a park ranger.

Quit arguing it, quit acting as if you can PROVE anything about ANYONE anymore. The shit I said about Krillin?? I could be fucking WRONG. If the producer doesn't care at all then obviously neither should you. Arguing endlessly is pointless.

Protip: Nobody is forcing you to watch the show. It may suck now, but if it stresses y'all out to the point where you have to blow up countless threads full of the same, spiteful shit; """""grown adults""""" who can't handle cartoons? Then you should stop watching it, seriously.

I myself am loving it, because I also don't give a shit what happens as long as it's cool as fuck. (Of course I, nor anyone wants anymore extreme situations like the ones we've had, especially if they're poorly animated or written as bad or worse.)

tl;dr: Literally nothing you debate about DBS powerscaling issues can be proven. So stop wasting hours trying to prove random anons on 4chan wrong when they can easily just fucking ignore you, lol.

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>>156365574
>>156365411
This guy is a better writer than Toyotaro and Toei, he should have handled black's arc.

>>156365597
>"I knew it! He actually like mortals!"

>>156365613
nice pasta

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>>156365603
>he's wearing two potara

>>156365603
I don't like that smug look.

Does anyone have the links to that DB doujin with Vegeta as the protag?

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I guess Father-Son Galick Gun not being in the manga makes sense.

Trunks never trained with Vegeta to learn it, unlike the anime.

Still pretty disappointing though

I need some clarification.

Kibito and Shin fused using their own potara, so the two users don't need each of the same set? For example, if I had my own potara, and someone had another, could I place mine on my left ear and he on his right and we'll fuse?

>>156365671
Trunks trained with Vegeta in the manga too, but they didn't show what Vegeta taught him.

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Will the manga end the Zamasu arc the same way?

>>156365603
>>156365614
>>156365574
>>156365540
>>156365411
>NTR
disgusting

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>>156365597
>Are ya winning son?

>>156365721
Future Zeno was shown to be in the manga artworks of the Universal Survival Arc, so...

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>>156365411
>>156365540
>>156365574
>>156365603
>>156365614

This is the best black, he even praise mortal for their qualities.

>>156365721
As much as I want it, I doubt they'll get a happy ending.

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>>156365710
I meant trained him to use Galick Gun

What was the point of Vegeta training Trunks if Trunks barely fights in the manga?

Maybe he'll get the final kill with a move that Vegeta taught him

>>156365644
I honestly never understood why he didn't have both

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>>156365803
Probably because Zamasu and Black planned to fuse as a back-up since the beginning/

>>156365803
Because you clearly didn't watch/read the last arc.

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>>156365519
Why would she fight something that she can't resist?
She is addicted to that ancient badboy forever

>>156365831
Yeah, but then he could just take one off

>>156365768
What happy ending? All the Earthlings in the future timeline are already dead in the manga and we don't know what happened to new-Namek

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>>156365831
Why does he has to blacked everyone?

>>156365863
Why does trunks want to protect a deadland?

He may want to get revenge but he can't, why even fighting?

He can just fuck off.

Wouldn't Gohan with god ki have different hair than blue or red since he's half saiyan and human? From what I can gather different species have different god ki color, so if Gohan went Super Saiyan God, what color would he turn?

>>156365721
I always thought the future will be destroyed too but since the latest chapter came out I'm not so sure anymore, because of that panel with Trunks saying he wants to fight even though Mai and himself are the only ones alive in that world.

>>156365863
>Wait a year
>Use Super Dragon Balls to revive everything in his timeline, except for the evil guys
>Trunks goes back to his timeline
>Gohan's waiting for him

Of course it won't happen, but Trunks deserves happiness. I hate that Toriyama ruined and shit all over his happy ending that he got in the Cell arc

>>156365916
And that is precisely what kills any sort of tension in the manga version
What the fuck is even the point anymore?

>>156365699
You aint getting one, and give me my clothes back.

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>>156365931
>Mai and himself are the only ones alive in that world.
And the animals. Don't forget about the animals, anon.

>>156365933
But what makes the other timeline interesting is the fact that Trunks fights alone and all the other warriors are dead though.

>>156365965
Because he wants to cause some emotional damage

>>156365097
It was literally the worst ark in the franchise history.

Do you think future Trunks will go to Cell timeline in the manga?

>>156365966
Or Goku can just press the Zeno button and have him erase Zamasu on the spot

>>156365970
Oh yeah you're right anon. But still I wonder what would they even do in a world with only the two of them and some animals. It'd be easier to just go live in the past.

>>156365916
I know, they can just warn the other gods of the other universe, so they can kill black and zamasu by themselves but nooo, Goku and Vegeta are risking their life now for something that could be hanled by the other gods of the other timelines easily.

Whis or Shin can just warn them.

>>156365965
They need to stop Zamasu from wrecking any other planets/universes/timelines
Which is why the ending is so dark because Zamasu sort of wins in the end by wiping out everyone in Trunks' timeline causing Zen'o to have to delete everything

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>>156366044
I'm guessing Toyo will have their universe wiped out after all. Future Zen'o is seen in the present timeline in the Universal Survival arc teaser. It's like you said, there's no point.

>>156366018
It started out so great too

>>156365970
I want to see Zamasu gifting West with a pet cat he found

>>156366137
What about Zamasu drugging smugpup and gifting her a very big puppy?

>>156365965
Are you retarded or jut an ignorant? Just "the resistance" isn't enough to repopulate Earth, they were doomed as well
Also Trunks using resistance's power to defeat Zamasu... making him a bodyless soul which kills the resistance is stupid as fuck

>>156366173
Even fucking better anon.

>>156366102
Don't forget the plot device of the time machine not being able to go to that timeline anymore.
Maybe the timeline won't be destroyed but Trunks and Mai will be stuck in the past and will either stay there or find another timeline to live like in the anime.

>>156366032
True, not like there is something to protect anymore in this deadland

>>156366086
>They need to stop Zamasu from wrecking any other planets/universes/timelines

The other gods can do that easily, just sens Whis or Shin to warn them about zamasu and black then they will HAKAI them.

>>156366218
That plot device is fucking dumb because there's only six timelines and not an endless amount

>>156366176
They help but it's mostly trunks who defeat weakened zamasu with his power.

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>>156366257
>That plot device is fucking dumb
>there's only six timelines and not an endless amount

>>156366173
>>156366185
Hey I did not give this idea my consent.

>>156366176
He still has motivation at least, still something to protect for.

Also, the resistance weren't the only humans in earth.

>>156366286
Why would the time machine have trouble finding that timeline again when there's just six of them?

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>>156365519
THIS

>>156366316
I love the anime but your claim is retarded.

Because the time machine can create an another timeline.

I still think the plot device in the manga was brought out of nowhere to add artificial tension but your claim isn't a part of it.

>>156366308
>He still has motivation at least
He doesn't need that motivation he's still fighting for other timelines and for his (past) mother sake

>Also, the resistance weren't the only humans in earth.
Yeah I forgot about less than 100 persons with Android 8
Still not enough

>>156366344
What's up with Toriyama and track suits?

>>156366361
they rhyme with hack

>>156366361

How angry will you be when he beats up Jiren?

>>156366357
>Yeah I forgot about less than 100 persons with Android 8

Nice headcanon, and as I say, he may want revenge but don't add the bullshit of protecting the other timeline.

Not only, trunks never claimed that, but also, the other gods can protect their own timeline easily, just warn them, protect their kaioshin and they will HAKAI them.

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>>156366292
Be her puppers.

>>156366344
I don't think he'd have blue hair

>>156366415
If she provides a good internet connection and a gaming PC then it's a deal.

>>156365097
he was a meme baddie, taylor made for reddit

>>156365965
He's planning to pull this bullshit in other timelines.
He can easily move through time undetected. He can easily show up in the present, hide his power, and immediately kill Kaioshin. He can then do this to all the gods, and repeat in every timeline until Zeno finally gets tired of his shit.

>>156366420
Black Hair with blue aura?

>>156366469
See >>156366397

Gods not being able to protect their kaioshin when they're warned will be retarded as fuck

>>156366469
>warn Rumoosh
>have him wait for Black and Future Zamasu to show up in the timeline's U10 kaioshin realm
>''hakai''
>done

>>156366451
we're still drugging you and may or may not be doing things with your body before gifting you

>>156366469
>Who is angels
>What is warning angels about threats.

>>156366483
No, just that he's half human and humans may have a different color for god ki, so half breeds like Gohan may have their own special one, who knows though

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How the fuck did Vegeta forget that he did the potara fusion yet Goku didn't?

>>156366499
Who would warn them you autist? How would they suddenly warn every god? He kills Trunks, Goku, Vegeta, and the 2 kais there. That kills off Beerus, Ramoosh, and their angels. That kills off everyone who knows about their plan.

Not to mention he can kill them even with the gods around, since he can do quick sneak attacks. The kais are weaklings.

>>156365411
>>156365540
>>156365614
BLACKED

>>156366397
>Nice headcanon
There are less than 10 you autist
You need thousands and thousands of males and females for not have the humanity being extinct

>revenge
No

>bullshit of protecting the other timeline
>trunks never claimed that
So I guess Trunks doesn't care at all if Zamasu kills more people in other planets, universes or timelines huh

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>>156366544
That's probably MangaStream's bullshit like Vegeta not knowing that future Bulma was killed by Black

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>>156366520
Please don't, I don't particularly trust the ideas you have in that wild imagination of yours and I believe my concerns are of a rather logical and sound nature.

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>>156366137
>>156366173

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>>156365916
Sorry your antisocial ass doesn't have attachment to his home

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I'm bored.

Do you guys mind if I share a theory on FemBroly?

>>156366605
>Vegerot
Gets me every time

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>>156366620
>14
How many edits do you have anon?

>>156366574
>There are less than 10 you autist
Nice headcanono

>No
Yes, he want to protect his deadworld and avenge his mom, he said it himself

>So I guess Trunks doesn't care at all if Zamasu kills more people in other planets, universes or timelines huh
I just said that he never claim that, you don't know shit.

>>156366564
>Who would warn them you autist?
>Who is angels
>Who is kaioshin
>What is a time ring
>Who is the retarded Gowasu who was able to escape from Zamasu and Black before.

>>156366637
>that smile

she knows how they are gonna repopulate the planet

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Soon

>>156366605
Why is Viz's translation so much better than Mangastreams? Viz rushed their's out, Mangastream had plenty of time to proofread, and it's still filled with mistakes

>>156366564
>Not to mention he can kill them even with the gods around, since he can do quick sneak attacks. The kais are weaklings.
>Lul gods of destruction are slow

Nice headcanon.

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>>156366649
I get bored sometimes

>>156366637
>This is still our deadworld, me and my autistic GF are so happy about it

>>156366650
>>Who is the retarded Gowasu who was able to escape from Zamasu and Black before.
Gowasu never escaped from Black and Zamasu.

>Who is angels
What angels know? None know about this outside of Whis. And he'd be inactive since Beerus would be dead

>Who is kaioshin
NONE OF THEM KNOW YOU IDIOT.

>>156366643
go ahead

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>>156366637
>>156366662
>tfw saiyan dick

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>>156366620
>>156366679
Cute.

>>156366724
>Gowasu never escaped from Black and Zamasu.
Read the manga you damn mongoloid

>What angels know? None know about this outside of Whis. And he'd be inactive since Beerus would be dead
Yeah, Whis know, he can just warn them.

>NONE OF THEM KNOW YOU IDIOT.
>Who is Shin who was able to escape from zamasu and black with trunks and mai.

>>156366704
Sigh, what kind of retarded kids are they allowing to type in here...

>>156366766
>Read the manga you damn mongoloid
You read you retard, he never escaped from Black and Zamasu. Black killed him each time except for now, because Trunks and Goku interfered.

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>>156366746
I know you want this dick.

>>156366620
anon who wrote her backstory/personality here.
Their partnership would be pretty fun.

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>>156366662
Oh shit, that actually explains why do they want to save that timeline.

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>>156366724
>>156366801

Can retarded toyocucks just fuck off?

God, you didn't even read the manga.

>Shin was able to travel to an another timeline
>Was able to save trunks and mai from black and zamasu

>>156366801
>Gowasu and Shin escape before they can be killed back to the main timeline
>use their teleport anywhere ability to go to Rumoosh's planet
>Zamasu appears
>''hakai''
>problem solved

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>>156366807
He should give it to Shin like he was supposed to.

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>>156366855
>>156366846
Mangacucks BTFO as always!

>>156366846
That's not escaping from them you fucking autist. Zamasu and Black weren't chasing Gowasu at that time

Learn english you idiot.

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>>156366771
>>156366832
Anon what makes you think ranting here will help?

>>156366855
>>Gowasu and Shin escape before they can be killed back to the main timeline
>>use their teleport anywhere ability to go to Rumoosh's planet
>>Zamasu appears
>>''hakai''
>>problem solved
How is this exclusive to the manga, you illiterate Toeishills?

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This is just stupid. We had a Tournament that Universe 7 DID WON, fair and square. Nobody can deny that. Even Zeno sama saw it.

Then, we get this bullshit, that Universe 6 is stronger?
> I blame Toei for that

>>156366915
the anime actually had survivors left to save

>>156366913
I know they post here

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>>156366865
I love how the god of our universe is a punching bag to us.

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>>156366881
Nice try retard.

When Vegeta and Goku came to save the day, Shin and Gowasu should have escape to the other timeline.

>>156366915
It is because in the anime, the humans were still there, still something to protect, and you can't count on the other gods to protect a timeline which isn't their timeline.

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>>156366880
Who's the best angel?

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>>156366725
Alright.
Warning. This may be pretty autistic. Please correct me if I get any facts wrong.

>Despite the pacifistic nature of the saiyans of Planet Sadla, the legend of the Super Saiyan still exists.
>However, the leaders of Sadla made an effort to prevent the legend from being well-known, fearing that the planet may plunge into violence if they found out how Super Saiyans came to be.
>Whenever a Saiyan is born with an abnormally high power level, they're often kept away from the public under the belief that they could become a Super Saiyan.
>The royal family of Sadla trains these Saiyans to prepare for a possible threat that could destroy Sadla. They are often branded as a "Savior of the Future".
>However, a threat rarely comes up and the "saviors" often live out their lives as hermits due to their isolation.
>The latest Savior of the Future, however, just happens to be within the royal family.
>The eldest child, Eschalot (Borrowing this name from Vegeta), was isolated and trained like the past Saviors.
>She's often kept out of sight and her family constantly tells her that she has to protect Sadla through any means necessary.
>With that said, the royal family were desperate to keep her out of sight, even around deities.
>Because of this, she was initially overlooked by Champa and Vados when they were searching for strong fighters for the U6/U7 Tournament.
>It's only when the Tournament of Power came up is when Eschalot is finally revealed.

So what do you think?

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Did Shin just go full retard?

>>156366977
Why is this missing five of them?

>>156367001
Shin can never be trusted

>>156366965
>Affected by tear gas
>STILL haven't wiped out all the ningen
>Can't just IS or IM their away to everything
Those two are remarkably incompetent at killing all the humans.

>>156367001
Well, Mangacucks can self-insert in him at least.

>>156367001
Is Shin a powerlevelfag?

>>156367028
>Those two are remarkably incompetent at killing all the humans.

Don't try to change the subject, Shin can just warn the other gods, HAKAI, then END OF THE ARC.

>>156366965
>It is because in the anime, the humans were still there, still something to protect, and you can't count on the other gods to protect a timeline which isn't their timeline.
Trunks wants to protect the world even if only he and Mai are left, because it's his world

How is this a problem? It's perfectly in character. Your true colors are showing, Toeishill.

>>156367001
Wasn't it obvious? RoF Whis said that if Goku & Vegeta double teamed Beerus, they might win.

>>156367061
>Hurr durr in the anime the gods don't need to get involved because I say so
>HURR DURR THE MANGA SUCKS BECAUSE THE GODS CAN GET INVOLVED

I hate you irrational hypocritical faggots.

>>156367061
I'm a different anon & I think they killed all the Kais already. They're probably dead.

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>>156366977
Marcarita

>>156366679
You still around? I need an earring color edit.

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>>156367069
What does he want to protect precisely?

His dead planet?

What can he do after that?

Why even trying since he's that weak?

Even vegeta support my claim.

>>156367095
>they killed all the Kais already

Killed all the kai from all the other timelines?
Nice headcanon.

>>156366994
>for a possible threat that could destroy Sadla. They are often branded as a "Savior of the Future".
>>However, a threat rarely comes up and the "saviors" often live out their lives as hermits due to their isolation.
>>The latest Savior of the Future, however, just happens to be within the royal family.
>>The eldest child, Eschalot (Borrowing this name from Vegeta), was isolated and trained like the past Saviors.
>>She's often kept out of sight and her family constantly tells her that she has to protect Sadla through any means necessary.
>>With that said, the royal family were desperate to keep her out of sight, even around deities.
>>Because of this, she was initially overlooked by Champa and Vados when they were searching for strong fighters for the U6/U7 Tournament.
>>It's only when the Tournament of Power came up is when Eschalot is finally revealed.
Gohan is going to beat her ass

>Goku and Vegeta still individualists, refuse potaras at first
>Zamasu wasn't using Kachin Steel as some ultimate attack like Toeicucks implied but because he was toying with Goku
>Potara retcon receives a better explanation than a 2 second off-hand remark
>Vegetto properly BTFOing Zamasu while being smug, as he should be
>Vegetto confirmed stronger than Beerus, as he should be

Holy shit, Toyatoro is truly /ourguy/
Toei BTFO

>>156367093
>I hate you irrational hypocritical faggots.
You're the retarded one here.

Why will gods from the other timeline protect humans in trunks'suniverse?

They don't have to.

Now, since trunks and kaioshin are so concerned about the other timeline, why can't they just warn the other gods to protect THEIR OWN TIMELINES BY THEMSELVES?

>>156367139
They killed all in their own. Beerus had a reason for not coming to Trunks' timeline even though he heard he's dead there.

Besides, the GoD aren't supposed to take sides.

>>156365097
He ain't coming back. Get over it.

>>156367162
Are we talking Ultimate Gohan or regular Gohan?

>>156367191
It wouldn't do much. Warning would require leaving the timeline as Black & Zamasu do whatever they want. Just stop Black there & no need to warn

>>156367255
Ultimate Gohan after Goku beats the power back into him

>>156367182
>Goku and Vegeta still individualists, refuse potaras at first
This is shit

>Zamasu wasn't using Kachin Steel as some ultimate attack like Toeicucks implied but because he was toying with Goku
The kachin was cool but zamasu playing with base goku is retarded.

>Vegetto properly BTFOing Zamasu while being smug, as he should be
Black Zamasu is fucking useless as a villain then.

>Vegetto confirmed stronger than Beerus, as he should be
Shin isn't reliable for shit, let's wait for more proof.

>>156367221
But Shin can just travel to the other timelines and WARN the other kaioshin, that's all, then warn the other gods of destruction, that's all.

Beerus can't but SHIN CAN.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQsgE0L450

The true god has no beginning and has no end,
it was not begotten and cannot beget,
it cannot die and resurrect.
He is responsible of everything good
and evil and he is the sustainer of life.
If he can save he saves all without distinction

>>156367139
He's emotional attached to the place. He's worked hard for years to better it after the Androids. Wasn't it obvious?

>>156367278
>Black & Zamasu do whatever they want
>Whatever they want in a deadland

See >>156366965
They could have just go to the other timelines while Goku and Vegeta hold zamasu and black.

>>156367289
Why would they trust this no name Supreme Kai from another timeline? A story about a Kai killing all the other Kais is pretty outlandish. Technical Beerus in the regular timeline is fully aware of this. He still choose to not help.

>>156367289
Goku and Vegeta refusing to fuse was indeed stupid, they were way out of their league in power alone, not to mention Zamasu was immortal and there are no Dragon Balls left.
I don't mind Vegito Blue being possibly stronger than Beerus, Shin theories that he MIGHT BE stronger, so even if he is, the difference is probably not that high. At least this way Goku and Vegeta can't one day hope to achieve his power.
Zamasu playing around with Goku wasnt bad, Goku pissed the fuck out of him last chapter, he rightfully wants to torture him for that.

>>156367333
>hold back
>got their asses raped the first few times & only succeed due to training back in time

>>156367384
>Technical Beerus in the regular timeline is fully aware of this. He still choose to not help
But he killed zamasu right? BECAUSE ZAMASU WAS IN HIS TIMELINE.

Do you have a brain?

>Why would they trust this no name Supreme Kai from another timeline?
Why not? He's a kaioshin.

>>156367434
They wer strong enough when they come back the 2nd time.

Why shin and gowasu didn't go to warn the other gods from the other timeline here?

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>>156367295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-TrAvp_xs

I sought to hear the voice of God
and climbed the topmost steeple,
but God declared: "Go down again
- I dwell among the people.

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>>156367182
>Vegetto confirmed stronger than Beerus, as he should be

Who says he wasn't in the anime? In RoF, Whis said Goku/Vegeta might be able to beat Beerus if they work together.

Beerus probably would've had trouble with Fusion Zamasu's immortality...that is, until he uses his HAKAI

>>156367139
Anon is saying that Trunks wants to protect his home. Is it that hard to understand?

>>156367333
>Shin travels back in time
>Pissed off Zeno with his timeline fuckery
>Everything go boom

>>156367280
Sorry if my theory sounds dumb. I just wanted to make sense on why Super Saiyans weren't known about until Cabba transformed.

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Why is MS making Vegeta sound stupid?

>>156367514
Zeno wasn't even ware about black and zamasu in mirai trunks's timeline.

Stop trying to find any excuse.

>>156367440
He helped with his own timeline. Not another timeline. Black & Zamasu are still threats.

>>156367549
>Unaware of Black means timeline fuckery doesn't happen
>Implying he needs awareness of Black when shit like time rings detected timeline fuckery

>>156367552
This is the reason why warning the other gods from the other timeline is more than enough.

If Zamasu and Black came to U7, is shin warn all the gods from his timeline and the other timeline, they will be ready if zamasu and black attack them.

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>>156367480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rxl5KsPjs

We know that God is everywhere;
but certainly we feel His presence most
when His works are on
the grandest scale spread before us;
and it is in the unclouded night-sky,
where His worlds wheel their silent course,
that we read clearest
His infinitude,
His omnipotence,
His omnipresence.

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>>156367295
>>156367480
>>156367621

Why people bitchs about Vegeta refusing to fuse with Goku in the manga? He refuse as well in the anime

>>156367597
>Black travelled multiple timelines before Future Trunks
>Only stopped because Beerus ded
>Oh, they prepared for me. I'm a time hop again

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>>156365613
>this

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>goku pls help me

>>156367674
So? Thanks for proving my point BTW.

Tell me which gods were prepared to face black and zamasu?

Do you want to know what will happen if they're warned?

Hakai, just like zamasu from present timeline

>>156367725
Trunks is such a beta cuck in the Manga, he didn't even try to protect tired goku and tired vegeta, in their base form

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>>156367647
NINGEN!
You will never erase the Lord from our hearts

>>156367738
>Nno-o you!
>W-Warn them!
>Black won't kill Shin or anything!
>They'd listen to Shin! They just would!
>Extending the conflict to other timelines and endangering even more people is good!

>>156367871
Personally, I think it's alright. At the very least, the characters look somewhat accurate, save for certain body types. Plus, the artist looks like a chill guy. I'm pretty sure a lot of people on /a/ would disagree, though.

>>156367982
>Plus, the artist looks like a chill guy
>chill guy
>guy

>>156367970
>Black won't kill Shin or anything!
Shin already escape black before

>They'd listen to Shin! They just would!
Why not?

>Extending the conflict to other timelines and endangering even more people is good!
If they're warned, nothing will happen, beerus hakai zamasu directly just when he was perfectly aware about him.

>>156367970
>Black won't kill Shin or anything!
See>>156366846

>>156367995
My mistake. I didn't remember who they actually are behind the blog.

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>>156367725
Couldn't Trunks do that?

Goku doesn't need to protect Mai and the Kais when Trunks is literally right next to them.

>>156365762
S-Sauce?

Any color/editfags around?

>>156368109
The Manga love beta cuck trunks

>>156367871
Is this canon?

>>156368109
That was just an excuse to let Goku get closer to them and get the potara earrings .

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>>156367725
>>156367818
>>156368109
>>156368139
It's part of the build up
This chapter is pointed at Trunks' weakness and determination for the next one in which Trunks get his power up and defeats Zamasu
Too bad you don't understand such a basic story telling

>>156367182
>>Goku and Vegeta still individualists, refuse potaras at first
Stupid. Literally downplays the character-development they've had since RoF and onwards. When Toei is better at slowly progressing characters than you, something's wrong.
>>Zamasu wasn't using Kachin Steel as some ultimate attack like Toeicucks implied but because he was toying with Goku
It was still shit.
>>Potara retcon receives a better explanation than a 2 second off-hand remark
It was still shit.
>>Vegetto properly BTFOing Zamasu while being smug, as he should be
Shit fight.
>>Vegetto confirmed stronger than Beerus, as he should be
>confirmed
Lol nice try Shin

>>156368232
What a shitty excuse.

>>156368257
>Lul cliche storry telling is good
>Shitty asspull is ok when the Manga does it

>>156368232
At the expense of Beta Trunks?

Toyo could've made any other reason for Goku to get near them.

>>156368257
I'd rather they just take the Toei approach and give him his asspull nice and early instead of waiting until the last chapter and having him be a fucktoy in his own arc until that point.

>>156368257
So Toyo is waiting until the VERY end of the arc for Trunks to do something?

You know what's better build-up? Trunks progressively being more involved.

Not Beta Cheerleader Trunks, then all of the sudden he's the savior in the next chapter.

Couldn't even save Mai, Gowasu, and Shin for a couple of beams. What a fucking disappointment.

>>156368335
>cliche story telling
Some story telling is better than asspull from nowhere like it happened in the anime.

>Shitty asspull is ok when the Manga does it
No one knows about the manga asspull yet you idiot
But in any case is already better than the anime because Trunks will get the asspull at the end, while anime-Trunks get TWO asspulls and the second one make the first pointless and this first one was pointless already because Toei don't care about make Trunks struggle with SSR Black as SS2
Even if Toyotaro use the genki dama sword asspull he only needs to explain how works and will be better than the anime version

>>156368485
The first one tried to make trunks more important in his arc.

>It was pointless
So was vegeta training, so was vegeta switching ssb and SSG in the Manga

>>156368485
>Some story telling is better than asspull from nowhere like it happened in the anime.

>saying this whilst defending an asspull in the last chapter

Good stuff good stuff.
Toyocucks can officially do more mental gymnastics than they can do with their actual fat bodies.

Do you guys think Toyo has ever been on 4chan or these threads?

>>156368485
>Pointless
So?

Just think about it, why toei will give Trunks this asspull when they know how the arc end?

Just think about it

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When will colorfags get on this doujin?

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>>156368455
Trunks already tried being more involved, look how that went

>>156368485
Don't you think it makes sense for trunks to have a transformation based on Rage after all the shit he has to go through?? the transformation for me is amazing, My only gripe is that they don't even bother to give it a proper explanation, but that's it

>>156368671
There is a shitton of way to make trunks more powerful, Toyotaro just didn't tried because MUH VEGETA, MUH GOKU

I'm not gonna lie, I kinda prefer Fused Zamasu having a time limit in the manga if it means there's no stupid purple goop-arm.

>>156368671
So, why SS2 Trunks>SSJ3 Goku then?

Why?

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>>156367182
>Goku and Vegeta still individualists, refuse potaras at first

First, Goku and Vegeta taking turns against Golden Freeza made sense. They were confident. With Fusion Zamasu? Not so much.

Second, Goku pushed for fusion in the Buu Saga out of necessity. Now all the sudden he was refusing Potara? Especially now that the villain is an immortal god fusion?

> Zamasu wasn't using Kachin Steel as some ultimate attack like Toeicucks implied but because he was toying with Goku

So you prefer throwing blocks over:

>Barrier of Light, Wall of Light, Lightning of Absolution, Blades of Judgement, Holy Wrath, Monster Forme

> Potara retcon receives a better explanation than a 2 second off-hand remark

So instead of:

> Moral x Immortal = unstable

You prefer the more convoluted "better explanation":

> Mortal x Kaioshin (though not technically a Kaioshin because Zamasu stole the Potara. He didn't earn it. Not a TRUE Kaioshin) = time-limit

> Vegetto properly BTFOing Zamasu while being smug, as he should be

Not only was it Super Buu all over again, the fight itself was lame.

> Vegetto confirmed stronger than Beerus, as he should be

Anime never said he wasn't. So there's nothing to compare.

>>156368556
>defending an asspull in the last chapter
Again, no one knows how it will be. Explained, unexplained, transformation, new technique... Nothing yet.
Why do you love make a fool of yourself?

>>156368544
Trunks has been important in the manga without inconsistent bullshit. The final asspull is supposed to appear at the end, otherwise is pointless. Toei only proves they can't write a Trunks being useful if he's not a super strong guy.

>Vegeta training
Vegeta training was necessary to make him defeating Black (which was a scripted plot point), and it was cool without being inconsistent like SS2 Trunks kicking SSR Black.

>>156368692
I think SS Anger is cool too but it needs the fucking explanation and be actually relevant. An explained SS Anger at the end would be cool, but make Trunks go Anger in the middle of the arc for nothing is stupid as fuck (because he's still switching between be strong enough to fight with Black and be too weak to do shit like when he was just SS2).

No one can answer me? >>156367662

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>>156365262
>Zamasu is voice by Big Green Goku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRbLRPSE-iU
>Sabat has basically become the Old Bastard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11jySV82FNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNufccACQw0
https://youtu.be/XQEpSnvynPg?t=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TssOin3AefQ
>apparently Schemmel's Black is going to have both Christian Bale Batman and British voices, one for base and one for Rose

>the absolute state of Funimation

>>156368947
>Trunks has been important in the manga
Only at the start, then he became a bait, do off screen fight, cheerleader, wow.

>>156368994
No one's bitching about Vegeta's reluctance for fusion

No one answered because it was a dumb question

>>156368994
Personally, I was talking about the lack of teamwork in the Manga.

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is anime canon?

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>>156369028
>He saved Goku from having his body stolen and be killed by Black-Zamasu.
>He saved Goku (again), Vegeta and Mai from being killed by Black and Zamasu.
>He saved Goku and Vegeta lifes AGAIN by distract Black and Zamasu in a suicidal move.
>He helped to keep Gowasu alive time enough until Goku (and his senzus) returned by using his scarf to plug Gowasu's wound, giving a motorcycle to Mai to keep Gowasu away from the battle and fighting with Black again even being powerless in another suicidal move.
>He will defeat Zamasu at the end.

>"only at the start"

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>>156369083
Toriyama's scripts are. But the anime is the "main product"

The manga was announced after the anime. The main purpose of it is to promote the anime through the promotional magazine: V-Jump

>>156369111
>He saved Goku from having his body stolen and be killed by Black-Zamasu.
>Body stolen
What?

>He saved Goku (again), Vegeta and Mai from being killed by Black and Zamasu with taioken
Okay

Then
>Bait
>bait
>Off screen fight
>Asspull

Wowq

>>156368692
Super Saiyan is already a transformation based on rage

>>156369111
Nice retarded copypasta

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>>156369196
new buu looks fucking shit

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>>156369219
>Super Saiyan is already a transformation based on rage

Just like the Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 transformations, SS Rage is gained through intense rage.

ALL SS forms (sans the God forms) can be gained through intense rage

I don't see a problem here.

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>>156366677

>Viz rushed theirs out

Viz get these things well in advance to translate. MangaShit rush their shit out, and their translator is incompetent in the first place.

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>>156369316
Take that back

>>156369218
>What?
Present Goku.

>>156369385
Not in purpose, it's shin who directly saved goku.

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>>156369358
they should just go with super buu design

>>156369423
But they did, that's literally Super Buu, with Fat Buu's face

>>156368994
Tbh, that's not even bothering me. I'm more surprised of the lack of complaints about how we got few pages of Vegetto and the fusion is already over. I mean why???

>>156367725
>goku is able to tank merged zamasu attacks and only got some ouchies
toyofags gonna defend this

>>156369545
with face of a retard, also gloves, thats nowhere near "But they did", evil buu was closer to super buu than this shit one

>>156369564
Well I'm not complaining because I don't give a shit about Vegetto.

>>156367594
He wasn't aware at all you damn mongoloid!
He needed goku to know what is happening.

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>>156365097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLXCfEASMpg

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>>156369423
Like this Super Buu?

>>156369676
Fair enough. It's just so stupid how they're like "the fusion lasts an hour" and then defuse before time limit. They even ate a senzu bean so surely that should be enough for them to stay in fusion. Literally the only thing I hate about DBZ/DBS is how inconsistant and illogical it sometimes is.

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>>156365262
Are you saying the english dub sounds like shit without nostalgia magic? H-how?!

>>156369564
Because it's a fucking monthly manga, there's no point on having a longer battle

>>156369324
SSJ3 and Blue aren't rage-induced.

>>156369581
>implying he's even trying to kill someone
Try again after read the manga

>>156369831
>Black vs Vegeta's fight last longer than Vegeto
Wow.
>Not using SSG to last longer

>>156369811
Nostalgia doesn't come into play because it's a recent character.
The English dubs for all the new characters aside from Beerus/Whis are just shit.

>>156366930
>Genuine Victory
>Hit threw the fight against monaka
Pick one

>>156369877
I said all SS forms, not including god forms (like Blue) CAN be rage-induced

Obviously Goten/Trunks didn't need rage for SS1 and who knows if Goku/Vegeta raged hard for SS2.

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>>156366865
Shin is already getting it from someone several levels up. Buu's weak cock can't compare.

>>156365411
>>156365540
>>156365574
>>156365603
>>156365614
>>156365762
>>156365831
Where can I find this , no reverse image searching brings results

>>156369910
>Black vs Vegeta's fight last longer than Vegeto
There was a lot of exposition in the chapters in which Vegeta fought Black, there's a reason for the duration of the fight. What's the point of make Vegetto fight longer?

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>>156369898
>Zamasu fusion with black to kill Goku and Vegeta
>Decide to stop being a competent villain
>Decide to become a goofy villain.
>Buu's attack in a deadland.

>>156369970
To see a great fight maybe?

Do you read DB just for the plot? Really?

DB isn't a fucking comic about capeshit.

>>156367072
This epic meme again huh

>>156370013
> Straight from Toriyama himself
> "meme"

Oh looks it's a meme of a supposed meme

>>156369988
>Zamasu becomes an invincible and immortal god
>defeats Goku and Vegeta in seconds
>goes delusional and crazy
Ftfy dude

>>156369581
He was holding back, it's ki control

>>156370074
Toyocuck's well of excuses never ceases to amaze and amuse me
smhtbh

>>156369756
This was pretty cool

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>>156369023
Don't forget the classic

>>156370011
So "fan service" excuse
That's not enough when the manga still needs like 2 chapters to end this current arc and is still behind the anime
Also yes I read DB for the plot. Plot is funny and cool, fights are the garnish. If you want more battles you have anime and videogames, that's how it has always worked

>>156369928
>Nostalgia doesn't come into play because it's a recent character.

That's what I'm saying. Dub was always shit but ameriburgers can't get that unless they hear the voice of a new character.

>>156367496
>Who says he wasn't in the anime?

The anime doesn't even have powerlevels anymore.

Fucking Trunks could have been stronger than Vegetto if Toei wanted it.

>>156370064
Then I guess 17 and future Trunks can kick Beerus' ass if they work together

>>156370120
>Not knowing about ki control

Ebin meme post

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>>156367115
Post if you're still here

>>156370236
>Fucking Trunks could have been stronger than Vegetto if Toei wanted it.

Just because Vegetto didn't absorb a Spirit Bomb into a blade, doesn't mean he's weaker than Trunks

Also Vegetto was under the impression that he had a whole hour

Either way Trunks only sliced Zamasu in half, he didn't beat him

>>156365984
No, what was always interesting was the fact that it was vegeta's kid from the future. A kid who's the only student of Gohan and uses the demon school of martial arts to fend off nigh invincible potential universal threat tier androids.
The PREMISE is interesting. The reality is that he loses his ass off every single time and none of his solo adventures are any good.
Having Gohan back and them and roshi teaching everyone martial arts so they can defend the earth would be awesome.
Can you imagine Capsule themed human/animal space warriors defending their solar system and galaxy from universal threats and the remnants of Frieza's empire.

I just had a flash back to the origin of lord genome from TTGL. SSJ2 Trunks standing on the bow of a capsule themed space ship that's heading towards a human colony that was attacked by Frieza remnants.

>>156370264
If 17 and SSRage Trunks fuse?

Maybe.

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>>156370336

>>156370236
>The anime doesn't even have powerlevels anymore.

The author stopped giving a shit about power levels after Freeza

>>156370154
>Reading DB for his "complex" plot

>>156370064
Fucking Toriyama outright fucking states that he had no goddamned idea that Toei was even making BoG till they handed him a fucking script.

He had almost nothing to do with it. Take a look at that fucking retarded "5 GOOD SAIYAJINS MAKE A GOD" and "SKINNY FUCCBOI WITH RED HAIR IS ULTIMATE FORM" version of Goku. That's not Toriyama's style when it comes to story and super forms.

>>156370519
>Fucking Toriyama outright fucking states that he had no goddamned idea that Toei was even making BoG
Nice headcanon.

>>156370546
>Nice headcanon.
not him but that's actually true

>>156370483
>The author stopped giving a shit about power levels after Freeza

The author stopped using power level numbers after fucking Freeza arc.
Tori stll had 100% internally consistency when it came to power levels. Fucks sake the power levels in the android saga are bulletproof.

>>156370496
Tell that to those faggots who think Zamasu is a 2deep4you character

>>156370496
>complex
I never said that but nice try buddy enjoy your (You)

>>156370546
But it's true, fucking retard.

>>156370560
>not him but that's actually true
>Even though toriyama outright stated that the shitty live action was the reason why he has come back to DB.

>>156369948
Isn't SS3 a SS form?

>>156370593
Zamasu is less complex then Garlic Jr. He's less entertaining too.

>>156370519
>SKINNY FUCCBOI WITH RED HAIR IS ULTIMATE FORM

Actually that was Toriyama's idea. Yamamuro's SSG was a generic super saiyan 3 wannabe with a cape or some shit.

>>156370665
>Zamasu is less complex than Garlic Jr in both version. Manga Zamasu is less entertaining too

FIFY.

>>156370653
Toriyama fucking outright states that he had no idea that BoG was even a thing till well after it was being made and they handed him a script.

That's a fact.

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Even the most autistic of fans are getting sick of Toei.

>>156370696
See >>156370690

>>156370699
This episode was retarded but here, he used SSB because apparently, you fight in space with god ki.

>>156370653
But BoG wasn't his idea, Toei asked him advice and he changed everything

>>156370693
Anime Zamasu is a clusterfuck of stupid bullshit. All I could think was "the fuck are you even talking about now you retarded cunt" when he decides to spout off about something and just flow into a complete nonsequitor.

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>>156370699
SSB was used here because God Ki allow you to fight in space.

See Goku vs Beerus.

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Man, Trunks is such a fag in the manga, he was a bit too good in the anime but still, he is so pathetic here it makes the anime looks miles better.

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>>156370693

>>156367725
This shit was dumb as fuck.
>>156368232
Yeah, but it sure made Trunks look bad.

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>>156370368

>>156370775
What about adding some quotes from anime Zamasu to prove your point?

>>156370699
>he needs that form for everything ....... pathetic
>Oh no, this building is too much for me! It's SS4 time!

>>156370572
>Fucks sake the power levels in the android saga are bulletproof.

- Kid Gohan achieved 2 SS forms in little time (or more if you want to count the SS Grades)
- Old man creates robo-teens stronger than the Alien Emperor of the Universe
- Piccolo fused with Kami (who's even weaker than Nail), and was somehow able to fight 17 evenly
- Tien vs Imperfect Cell

Still better than Buu Saga I guess

>>156370743
>Toei asked him advice and he changed everything
No he didn't. He just suggested a few things here and there. Probably just showed up at toriyama's favorite bar somewhere and hastled him so he'll give their script a once over or just rubber stamp it so they can get that "MADE BY TORIYAMA" seal of approval.
Toriyama probably said "you know what, I'm going to go home and bang this cocktail waitress I've been buttering up all night" then he'll write the cell phone number of Toro on a napkin and say "This is my boy call him. I trust him with DB. Now fuck off"

>>156370821
there's no gold on west's earring

>>156370693
>a retarded pepe with James' seiyuu vs a fucking drawing with no voice actor

Of course anime zamasu wins

>>156370876
o yea

It's official.

Manga Black and Manga Zamasu are NOT canon.

Xenoverse has their badass anime movesets and not any of the meme shit like katchin blocks.

>>156370869
>Reaching this hard
SSG was toriyama's idea, deal with it.

>>156370882
The point is that the outline of the arc is shit from the start, black's arc is basically a fanfiction.

No wonder DBAF inspired that shit.

At least in the anime, this was entertaining, Toyotaro take this shitty plot to seriously.

>>156370869
>Changed the concepts of the SSG and the GoD, making the entire movie different

>Here and there

Sure anon, whatever makes you happy with your meme story

>>156370935
I like the anime but I'm sure that they will add the katchin techinique with merged zamasu in the next DLC.

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>>156370699

>>156365721
I have a feeling that Toyo won't force a "sad" ending out of nowhere.

>>156370991
>BLUE LIGHT! MY ONLY WEAKNESS!!!

>>156370840
The mere fact that he wanted to wipe out human beings because he lost a fist fight to goku that he only had because he came back in time in goku's body which lead beerus to take goku to meet him in the first place.

The entire thing about him saying "THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT TRUNKS YOUR SHAMEFUL TIMETRAVELING EVIL" while he used the time rings to go to another timeline

The fact that he even used goku's body instead of making himself into a saiyajin, which would have been cooler, in the first place still makes no goddamned sense.

Why he decided to go to another universe instead of using the time ring to go back in time of his own universe and killing gowasu and himself from back then and then becoming god of universe 10 and wiping out mortals there.

I can go on. The entire character and all of his reasonings were fucking deeply stupid.

I'm not even going into why he didn't wish all of the mortals dead or gone in the first place. The whole "He's a sadist" thing doesn't work because if he was he could have usurped the position of the god of life and spent most of his time empowering the evil mortals of his universe and making them butcher each other to show them how inferior they are etc etc etcc.

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>>156370876