Anyone else think Sagiri's personality is awful? Her design is great but everything else is a no-go. Selfish, prone to angry and passive-aggressive outbursts, doesn't want to talk things out. Her hikokomori/shut-in side is poorly written. She doesn't want to leave her room not because she's scared of people or shy (what kind of shy person shows themselves on stream in front of thousands of people) but because she's lazy and wants a free ride throughout life and doesn't care who she inconveniences. Her brother enables her to be that way. It was barely funny with Umaru because it was done in a tongue-in-cheek, over-the-top way, so here done in a more serious tone it's extremely grating. She doesn't even show any appreciation towards him which also makes it worse.
I admit I felt pretty bad for her in the first episode where they give us both their backstories, and then she just ruins it by getting offended at MC calling her family and telling him to leave. He was trying to get along in his own way and she shut him down and tells him to leave for no reason. She just comes off as extremely selfish and entitled. That's why I'm so baffled that people like this girl outside of porn and doujins. I think it's crazy that this is considered the type of girl that otaku idealize. She's cute and all but in no way likable. And not because of character flaws or whatever, but because the writer sucks balls at writing captivating or relatable characters.
A lot of anime make the character a cute, young girl so they don't have to do the hard part of writing to make the audience sympathize with the character through their words and actions, and with Sagiri this is very, very obvious. She's probably one of the cutest characters this season, design-wise. Just add in a few blushes, side glances and fidgeting, and you have a character who in instantly likable to 95% of the otaku audience no matter how entitled they are. No need to deal with that pesky writing stuff.
>Sees Elf naked
>Elfs give their virginity to whoever see them naked
You made her cry. Take responsibility.
For some reason otaku seem to like girls who are just like them. Maybe they like they because this type of girl wouldn't be able to leave them.
Bondage is pretty hot
I bet she can please elf guys at once!
Even if her personality sucks she's still a DFC loli.
Zelda has co-op?
Would you do some cooperative play with her?
No!%%!% Elf-chan is not a slut! She is pure!
I don't want to say all because you can cherrypick the few exceptions but all JCs are loli.
I was totally not expecting this anime to be this hilarious. I haven't laughed this hard at an anime in a long ass time.
Yoshitsugu is unironically a god-tier VA
>but it's the same author and same universe, so it's okay guys
Look at those fucking normies living up their glorified illusion of youth. They do not know the truth I know, they do not share my suffering- they only amplify it. I would love to erase those smiles right of their spoilt faces...
You guys are alright, don't go into school tomorrow.
This makes me happy
She got nuttin' on mah girl Sagari. Rethink your life if you think otherwise.
Why does Sagiri have white hair? This is a series that at least has semi-plausible hair colors, right? Did being a NEET drain her body from being able to produce a natural hair color for her age?
>bitching about sister's character issues
>ignores rapey brother's issues
Dude, there is a hell of a lot wrong with this anime that goes way beyond Sagiri. We have a 16yo MC who literally popped a boner the moment he met his 11yo sister. The brother is so enthusiastic about keeping her as his little pet that he JOYFULLY (yep joyful) enables all her hikikomori behavior just because he wants to keep her to himself.
The whole situation is fucked up, and both the characters are pure trash. Sagiri's personality and behavior is 100% off from an actual Hikikomori, in fact she's so far away from a hikikomori that it's clear that the author never met one before and that the author used it as a character setting and put ZERO thought into what that would actually mean for Sagiri.
The brother is another monster of bad writing. His character is molded to fit the situation and isn't anything that makes the slightest bit of sense.
1) he's selfless (takes care of sagiri with a smile)
2) he wants to fuck his sister (from minute 1 of meeting her)
3) he's hard working (in fact it's impossible for anyone to work as hard as he does)
4) he's selfish and jealous (he wants to keep sagiri for himself, doesn't want her to go to school or work for anyone else)
5) he's a weird virgin loser (he drops his spaghetti around pretty much any girl for bullshit reasons)
the brother is a horrible mess of a character that couldn't possibly exist. Just about as much of a mess of a character as Sagiri. They're characters designs from the ground up around the scenario. And that scenario is "NBR Bro-Sis want to fuck each other, she's a hikikomori who draws LEWD he's a weird virgin loser who writes LEWD, their parents are dead and he takes care of her like a parent through he wants to stick it in, and she has NONE of the crippling social anxiety or personal hygiene issues which are hand in hand with hikikomori.
this is just softcore porn for nip otakus.
>Nah, any foot is a good foot. Learn to fetish my friend.
Not if it's scared, dirty, and calloused.
Imagine if Elf's foot was like that because she walks around barefoot all the time.
>Imagine if Elf's foot was like that because she walks around barefoot all the time.
Thank you anon for that erotic line. I can go for another fap now.
Also, it doesn't matter if she walks around bare foot, feet don't degrade that fast. Maybe when she is like 25-30 if she keeps it up but they should fresh in the present time
That's what makes her cute. Superficially, she resembles real 3D females in how she's selfish, passive-aggressive and ruled by her emotions. However, peel away the facade and deep down, she's a really sweet girl who really cares about her brother; she just doesn't know how to express her feelings well. She's clumsy both physically and emotionally, like a puppy, which is cute.
This character archetype in anime is nice because it helps us deal with the harsh reality of the real world, the fact that real 3D females don't have any "deep down" but rather are selfish, rotten and disgusting right to their cores. An anime waifu will never marry you and have kids with you, only to file a "no fault" divorce for no reason, take half your assets, force you to pay alimony and child support to her for the next 15 years and then go marry Jamal who you know is going to beat your kids when he's not wrecking your ex-wife's pussy with his anaconda dick.
I have no idea how you managed to make that 6 seconds scene wheigh 1.5megabytes with such a small resolution.
at least this time you can swiftly and gracefully move on. Can't say the same about Kuroneko-victims
elf is literally kuroneko
>newfags don't even recognise the reference
I try to keep the bitrate as high as possible to retain original quality.Keep it from blocking and shit.
I'm good enough with cold stares and angry noises. Ball busting and others are outta my league.
Do all little sisters have this power over their brothers?
Fucking based. Is this new generation of "beta" MCs?
I think even if they didn't get along, most brothers would do something if their imouto started crying.
I fucking love this guy. He's just unashamed.
>For the first time in her life, Yamada Elf peers upon the small, skinny behind of a male. Her pure self becomes flustered at the implications of such an action, despite the object in front of her being lacking and dull.
>A cute girl will never fire a rubber arrow at your barely-covered ass
>The head of the arrow will never forcibly kiss with your butt that's barely covered by a thin membrane of underwear
Life is suffering.
>Elf wants to meet Eromanga-sensei, and despite living next door to her, doesn't know her true identity
Are they going to draw this out, or will they eventually get to know each other's identities?
>The brother is so enthusiastic about keeping her as his little pet that he JOYFULLY (yep joyful) enables all her hikikomori behavior just because he wants to keep her to himself.
>1) he's selfless (takes care of sagiri with a smile)
You are contradicting yourself, you imbecile
>draws while doing her dance thing
Professional as fuck.
She's the only character who isn't contractually obligated to behave like a stupid LN character, so she constantly figures out common sense things. The only reason she doesn't know right now is because there's no reason for her to. She'll know next episode.
Their guardian is his dad's younger sister, and she traumatized Sagiri by trying to forcibly remove her from her room, so they ended up making a deal for them to live alone for some reason.
It's dumb, but we won't get to the part where it's relevant.
Loli isn't defined relative to your size, a loli can be larger than a shota without being disqualified as a loli and you can have gargantuan lolis as long as their body type is still loli-like
I love Sagari's dancing, it warms my heart.
IT'S SAGIRI YOU MOTHERFUCKER
Rich people will never buy a house with cash. It's dumb. Don't do it. Here's why:
Suppose a house costs $1,000,000. You have some options,
>You can buy it for $1,000,000 cash, right now, or,
>you can get a 30-year mortgage with fix interest at 5%, paying $1,050,000 over a 30 year period.
If you spend $1,000,000, you're out. That's it. You've lost of all if. Instead, suppose you only spent $11,000/month + $300,000 down payment, you'd have around $700,000 in your pocket now. If you can invest that $700,000, and get a return of greater than 5%, you're making money. You've basically taken out a $700,000 loan collateralized with your house. It's easy to get a 5% return---any index fund over a 30 year period will do that. Money now is always worth more than money later, as well, because of inflation.
The only reason to pay with cash is if the financing plan sucks dick, or the asset is rapidly depreciating. For example, always avoid car payments. Car financing isn't like a mortgage. It's a lot worse. And the value of a car depreciates while you're making payments on it. The marginal abatement costs of a car can never be offset through investment, so you almost always want to pay cash for that.
I'm from a rich family and my parents only ever buy houses, there's none of this inbetween shit with monthly payments or however normal people do it. From my limited and admittedly anecdotal experience rich people like to actually own the things they buy.
Fuck it. I hope no one spergs out on how weird the MC looks.
She is very cute. I would gladly join in her depravity.
Personal ranking, feel free to bash me
they're pretty much the same, but Elf will be best unless Sagiri improves her personality
after this point there's no chance of redemption
This episode was great.
SO YOU BE SAYIN'
>episode 1 introduce a loli with already maximum cuteness
>episode 2 introduce an even better loli who likes ochinchins
>episode 3 introduce literally one of the best bantz lolis I've ever seen in anime
Is this GOTY anime? Like it just gets better and better. I'm speechless I didn't think I'd enjoy this so much.
>I just happen to be a renowned author in high school and my little sister who just happens to not be blood related just happens to be a renowned artist who just happens to also be the artist for my novel who I've never interacted with despite the fact that she streams her work daily. The one time I just happen to watch her stream she just happens to do something that reveals her identity and forces me to interact with her. Immediately following this incident a little girl from her school just happens to pay us a visit for the first time and tries to seduce me. Then the author whose books just happened to cheer me up back when my parents just happened to die just happens to move in next door. She also just happens to be a little girl. She just happens to see me as her rival despite being 10 times more successful than me and just happens to want to ditch her artist and steal mine.
What the fuck is this show. I must be a real sucker for a loli harem.
>Look out the window
I was being judgmental about the writing on the first episode, but I started having so much fun in this show I don't even care anymore.
Scared Sagiri is cute, CUTE!
So, next week we'll be getting mune-kun's confession to Sagiri, right?
And then we'll get Muramasa and finally Sagiri rushing out of her room to claim her onii-chan.
Man, this is going to take a while.
Why do they have to concentrate so much on other girls and make love rival shit. It's annoying and the drama isn't needed. Guess the writer couldn't do anything else and had to take the easy way out.
JC, loli, and imouto of the season all in one.
God, I can't wait for doujin.
Now you're obligated to suck my dick in the afterlife. Hope it was worth it.
>You'd know if were posting here for longer than a year.
Heh. Well I do remember people using it in Konobi threads, and a few manga threads. But surely it became more popular recently.
I don't think it's a bad thing, though. It just happens.
Why does the door open like this here
I want Elf to be my lolidom chuuni mistress.
but like this here
Do you really think I'm the same retard that was asking to be spoonfed? I just find it amusing how newfags pretend they've been here for a long time after they figure out the meaning of certain slangs, then are elitists about it.
Was this really necessary?
Yes, naturally. Why would anyone think otherwise?
>manga about an OL and Officer Worker onii-chan
>both too busy outside of their work lives to find love
>do weekly meetups for drinks to relieve stress and talk about their lives
>due to circumstances the imouto is forced out of her apartment and has to live with onii-chan temporarily
>they find themselves swept into a couple like lifestyle; people who don't know them would think that they are a couple
>during one of their drunken stress relievers, the imouto drunkenly remarks that they basically are a couple, wouldn't it be easier if they went out together?
>onii-chan gets visibly flustered, starts to recognise that his sister looks damn good in her OL outfit
>shenanigans happen until they eventually realise their feelings for each and eventually
Someone fund this.
Class rep fucking ruined last epiosde and ruined the start of this episode. But Elf is fucking retarded, and fucking retardedly cute so she saved this anime.
>>there will never be a manga about older onii-chan and imouto who are still alone after their twenties
I'm pretty sure this exists. iirc, there was one about a couple of hikki siblings in their early 20s. And no, it wasn't porn.
Are you talking about Hatarakanai Futari?
>implying imoutos don't stop giving a fuck about their onii-chans way before they do.
only 2d imoutos are cute, and they acan be loli forever
Why the MC does'nt just leaves the house and start to live by his own means?
He have zero legally responsibilities to his half-sister, in fact the legal tutor should be the one providing the money to the house. He should have a decent amount of money by selling his LN, and when Sagiri turns 18 years old he can start a trial of partition for the house.
because legal action in this sort of situation should only be done as a last recourse. setting aside interpersonal repercussions with the other party you would easily be kissing away 30% of your assets in legal fees. though the likely explanation is that MC isn't a money grubbing sociopath like you, and he genuinely cares about Sagiri's well being, even though they aren't very deeply acquainted with each other.
I thought the ears are fake but she had them after getting out of bath?
She's a real elf or something?
Elf is just there to awaken his most primal desires toward his sister.
Same with Muramasa, but with Sagiri's desires intead of her brother's.
>establish her as main heroine immediately
>introduce vastly superior girl
>she'll only ever be a side character and won't win
I feel like dropping this series now. The fuck's the point in continuing if the best end is already impossible? I hate it when authors ruin series by doing this shit. Just stick to one girl or make the heroine the best girl.
Elf never had a chance. Masamune is hopelessly in love with Sagiri, next week or so you will see what I mean.
This shit is stupid, why are autismos over-complicating things. If it looks young = loli, no need for all these trendy otaku terms. Age wise = 1-5 = toddlercon, 6-12 = loli, 13-19 = teen. Looks wise = short and flat = loli.
But he barely know her, they only know each other since 2 years ago and she spent a whole year being a hikikomori, any normal person would turn his back on that girl, and she should at least have one close relative that could take care of her for a few years until she turns 18, If you were in the MC shoes being a highschool boy, would you take care of her?
More like Elf is there for the personality, also known as FUN. Not even a need for lewd when conversing with her is so damn fun.
You don't get it, he fell in love with her at first sight. And he only lived with her for around a year, with her almost immediately going full hikki because their parents died.
>I feel sorry for the sagiri camp
They're most likely planning to give a lot of screen time to Sagiri the upcoming episodes and make her best girl again (but developing her character and giving comedy moments and such). Usually side characters like Megumi and Elf only get a good introductory episode and a bond-building episode down the line (maybe through past "dramatic" events). Das it.
At least he made it clear that Sagiri and Masamune like each other from the getg o so only delusional people entertain the notion that there's any other possible ending.
Just enjoy Elf as best girl without worrying about a nonexistant Masamune bowl.
>many people here has already converted to Elf
Then is just bad writing, because when you are young love come and goes pretty often, after losing your father you would stop giving a fuck about some cute girl that is actually a selfish cunt that doesn't even empatize with you about the pain of losing your dad in a young age.
>it's bad writing because I don't like it
>I can't even read moon
Oh anon, you silly you.
Yes, it's going to be glorious. New elffags are literally jumping into a crashed ship.
No I think I'm just done with this series. Introducing Elf like this was a mistake. Now every episode from now on will be a disappointment.
Fucking hell. This series was perfectly watchable before and now it's ruined.
I'm starting to see why people were saying Elf was best girl and it breaks my heart that she won't win. At least Sagiri a cute and not as shit as Kirino. The one thing Kirino has going for is is that she is prime boner material.
This anon >>156253588 gives good advice. Just enjoy the elf for herself. It was pretty obvious when they made them be non-blood related to avoid any controversy. Any best girls all BTFO'd from episode 1.
No, despite her really growing on me she's wrong. You need to leave something to the imagination. Kinda like puc related.
Only total retards. Let's be clear here. Kyousuke fell in love with Kirino over the course of the series. Kirino loved Kyousuke from the start, but the first clue is in vol 2 and it's completely obvious by vol 4.
Sagiri and Masamune like each other from the start and it's made perfectly clear to the audience in vol 1.
Elf having no chance right from the start doesn't make her any less best though.
Neko was shit.